People Say Stupid Things When They're Intoxicated

[Frank Giaramita]

Check the replies to read a controversial review of a Bright Eyes show in Fort Worth, Texas. Apparently, Conor had some not-so-nice things to say about Texans while intoxicated on stage.

Courtesy: Dallas Morning News

[Frank Giaramita]

"Review: Oberst's rants hurt Bright Eyes' Ridglea show
02:36 AM CST on Wednesday, February 9, 2005
By THOR CHRISTENSEN / The Dallas Morning News

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FORT WORTH – Bright Eyes leader Conor Oberst has become the sultan of scattershot – putting out a country-folk album and a synth-pop CD on the same day last month.

JOHN F. RHODES/DMN
Conor Oberst worked magic with new songs at the Ridglea Theater in Fort Worth.

So it was no surprise to see him shooting wildly from the hip Monday during his sold-out show at the Ridglea Theater. But at times, the bullets hit too close to home.

The 24-year-old singer started on a familiar path, peppering the show with between-song rants against the war in Iraq and President Bush. But as the night wore on and he drained yet another bottle of beer, Mr. Oberst turned surly.

"I don't know if you know this, but I hate your [expletive] state," he blurted. "I'd put a [expletive] gun to my head before I'd live in your state."

It was one of those rare moments when an audience doesn't know how to respond. Do you laugh? Boo? Cheer? Most fans reacted with awkward silence.

Later, he claimed he was only joking and tried to cushion the insult by naming Texans he admires, including Guy Clark, Townes Van Zandt and comedian Bill Hicks. But he couldn't leave the Texas bashing alone.

"If you came to this show tonight, you're not a normal Texan," he said after another long chug of beer. "If you were a normal Texan, you'd probably be roping steers and raping Indians."

Maybe it was all in jest – a bad attempt to impersonate Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. But Mr. Oberst's rants put a damper on what otherwise was a thrilling concert.

At times, things teetered on the edge of boozy chaos, especially during the show closer, "Road to Joy," when a roadie had to hold up trumpeter Nate Walcott so he didn't fall on his face.

But mostly, Mr. Oberst worked subtle magic with songs from I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning, the folkier of his two new albums. He proved his knack for simple melodies and bold lyrics in "Lua," a lullaby about drugs, fame and living in New York City. Even better was "Land Locked Blues," one of the most stirring peace ballads written in years. Fans tried to croon along to "Blues," but Mr. Oberst stopped them as soon as they began.

"The whole singing-along thing is kind of a bummer," he said, after halting the tune. "It makes me feel like Dashboard Confessional."

Then he finished the tune and treated fans to a rarity, "When the President Talks to God," a Dylan-style folk ballad that was funny, smart and concise – everything his between-song tirades were not. "--2/9- Dallas Morning News

[SlowDescent]

dam beer

[Pat Marquez]

And here come the 15 pages of replies....

[YourLatestVicti]

And here come the 15 pages of replies....


Yeah but this is much more worthy of replies than Adam's new haricut.

[godzillany]

haha

I love that man

[the blues]

first of all, in case in the asshole missed the point of that "texas" joke, Oberst was probably referring to the Texan that is currently our President whom he obviously hates... As far as being trashed on stage and telling people not to sing along... it's his show... no one goes to a show to hear a bunch of other people sing along to a bands song.. they go to see the band perform their own songs...

fuck the universe. listen to bright eyes.

/thread

[No Conversation]

he's crazy, crazy i tell you

[IAmCountryMusic]

i dont see what the big deal is, george w. bush loves roping steers and raping Indians and everyone seems to love him.

[Pat Marquez]

first of all, in case in the asshole missed the point of that "texas" joke, Oberst was probably referring to the Texan that is currently our President whom he obviously hates... As far as being trashed on stage and telling people not to sing along... it's his show... no one goes to a show to hear a bunch of other people sing along to a bands song.. they go to see the band perform their own songs...

fuck the universe. listen to bright eyes.

/thread

Actually that "asshole" was very balanced with his approach, as well as mature. It really wasn't an attack, it was more of an observation article.

[yc_soco]

im not from texas and hate bush too, but what an asshole Conor is for saying that about a whole state. I hope this shows he is not as great as so many people on here think he is.

[Hardxs4dreamers]

Gotta respect an honest man.

"a drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts"

[jasonoda]

conor was better before he was a "cool" kid. the new albums blow. they're worse than these little comments made on stage and that's the real crime. one is too boring, one is too wierd.

[no mames]

there aint shit like drinking beer, playing guitar and putting other kinds of people down to shame. only in texas.

[Pat Marquez]

Only in America.

[Gleebo]

I can't wait to hear what he has to say to us in his former place of residence next time they come through Nebraska. If Texas deserved a few insults he may not even get through 3 songs in this dump.

[Sinister Rouge]

I am from Texas, but Conor is the fucking man, this state is a shithole of steers, guns, and Jesus. Assholes like Bush and tom DeLay come out of this shithole.

[Speyside]

Obviously I'm a Texan. I love this state to death, even if I don't admire it's politics. I've been a lot of places, and I'm proud to call Texas my home, especially Austin. I however, am not upset by Conor's remarks (and definitely not by the reporter's, he did an excellent job).

Clearly, he was drunk (that's what upsets me more than anything, if I'm going to your show I want you to be able to stand up straight), and he was basically trying to say that he doesn't like Neo-cons, which you've got to expect if you're going to a Bright Eyes show.

He was a little too hung up on stereotypes (what with the whole raping indians part) but I think he'd see that if he stayed in Austin or Dallas for more than one night (as opposed to say, Lubbock) Texas is actually a very charming, cultured place to live. Basically it's clear that Conor doesn't know what Texas is truly like, although the part he's talking about does exist (and that's why I'm not upset) the rest I will write off to being intoxicated and not being able to choose the right words.

[sunrisehighway]

I am from Texas, but Conor is the fucking man, this state is a shithole of steers, guns, and Jesus. Assholes like Bush and tom DeLay come out of this shithole.


Obviously Texas has it's downfalls, but that's a horrible thing to stay to an entire state. There are people in Texas who ARENT like that, and also still LOVE their state. It's a fucked up thing to say. He's such a fucking dick, I wish I didnt enjoy his music so much (except 'I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning" which was the shittiest album he's ever released) because i'd love to hate him.

[70x7]

I am from Texas, but Conor is the fucking man, this state is a shithole of steers, guns, and Jesus. Assholes like Bush and tom DeLay come out of this shithole.
With an attitude like that I can promise you that you are going to go far in life.

[beenbrokenx]

i think you have to remember the dude was drunk. everyone does and says stupid shit when they are intoxicated. his are just alittle more public because he says it in front of a sold out audience. people are stupid when they are drunk. they cant think straight.

i dont hate texas. but i have to say i havent had such a nice experience with some people from there. my roommate freshman year of school was there...bad bad bad.


jackie

[Frank Giaramita]

Haha, i was just telling someone, the thing I love about stuff like this, is when someone's role model or icon fucks up, or says something out of line (not saying Conor did, but just in general) hardcore fans are stuck between Justifying his/her mistakes, or Coming to terms that their role model said something stupid. it's funny to see what approach fans take.

[rellish91]

fuck him hes from fucking nebraska...texas is a great state....go live in france...just cuz i like your music doesnt mean i like you...fuckhead

[cutebutxdeadly]

I don't know about you guys, but the Dashboard comment made me fall off my chair laughing. ...I'm too easily amused.

[Speyside]

I don't know about you guys, but the Dashboard comment made me fall off my chair laughing. ...I'm too easily amused.
Yeah that was pretty good.

[Kelley Nicole]

someone posted a link to this a couple days ago somewhere, and i was kind of upset by it. it doesn't change my opinion on his music at all, and it shouldn't for anyone, but now i'm starting to agree with other people who say he needs to lay off the drugs and alcohol a bit. if he had been sober, or a little less drunk/high/whatever, i don't think he would have said those things even if he does think them. i honestly don't think he's a dick, just an alcoholic and drug addict and i think it's time he goes back to rehab and actually stays until he's clean this time.

[AdamIsARealBoy]

Hahaha

[maledixtion]

conor has turned into a dick now that he thinks he's famous. he always talks about how he gets invited to all these exclusive parties and is best friends with springsteen. give me a break. we don't care. you make good music, but it's on the downhill anyway. he's an asshole. it's one thing to bash Bush, it's another to talk shit about the state and his fans.

[rellish91]

he can go snort another line for all i care...

[givingumonday]

Honesty is the best quality, and him displaying his honesty/feelings, no matter how many soft Texans hearts it will break, he was at least 'honest'. Don't you want to know what he thinks? I thought Texans were tough? Anyway, A drunk mind speaks a sober heart. Josh

[ihatethekids]

conor oberst is a selfish no talent hack.
he's been caught talking shit and back peddling to make up for it far too many times.

stop listening to his garbage.

he's not anything important.

middle class white boy blues bullshit band.



seriously. if you even try to show me how any of his music is credible, it only shows how little you know rock in any and all genres.

and yes, Spin named him the "songwriter of our generation".
well..

then it's not mine.

i choose Mark Kozelek.

now THAT is a songwriter.

[rellish91]

though im usually composed about things like this...this really angers me obviously...dumb remarks and im glad they made the news...i admire him as a music genius but artists and politics have gone too far...

[rellish91]

Honesty is the best quality, and him displaying his honesty/feelings, no matter how many soft Texans hearts it will break, he was at least 'honest'. Don't you want to know what he thinks? I thought Texans were tough? Anyway, A drunk mind speaks a sober heart. Josh
yes id love for him to put a gun to his head...that solves so many problems...congrats on a thoughout comment conor

[Frank Giaramita]

Honesty is the best quality, and him displaying his honesty/feelings, no matter how many soft Texans hearts it will break, he was at least 'honest'. Don't you want to know what he thinks? I thought Texans were tough? Anyway, A drunk mind speaks a sober heart. Josh

There's a respectful way to get an honest point across, and there's a disrespectful way...You tell me which one of those describes Conor's comments.

[LastCarInAlaska]

unexcuseable

[Basketcase]

hahahahaha...i'm not much of a Bright Eyes fan, but that has got to be some of the funniest shit ever. you're a funny guy Conor :lol2:

[burningdream25]

Bright Eyes sucks and So does Connor, bright eyes is the most over rated band ever and horrible... i hope connor dies of a horrible horrible death.

[Anthony Lutz]

Hahahaha, even if he really felt that way about Texas, I can't believe he had the balls to actually say it to their face. That takes guts. Raping Indians? God, that's classic. Even though his two new albums aren't as good as his older stuff, Conor deserves props for speaking his mind... even if he gets the shit kicked out of him...

[xXsensesfailXx]

Yeah, maybe he was drunk...but a drunk mans words are a sober mans thoughts, and yes only steers and *****s come from texas, like our president who has the brains of a steer and the qualities of a *****.

[notcreativehead]

I am from Texas, but Conor is the fucking man, this state is a shithole of steers, guns, and Jesus. Assholes like Bush and tom DeLay come out of this shithole.

i don't know about you, but i love steak. also, guns are used for protection against criminals 5 times more often than they are used to commit crimes. and despite your beliefs, Jesus stands for what is right and good in this world regardless of what you think about religion. sounds like you got a great list of reasons to hate texas. oh and how about conor lets people enjoy the show rather than subjecting people to listen to that garbage.

[Cheddar]

Interesting to see people rip apart the canvas at the first sight of a tear. A lot of sudden Anti-Oberst sentiment arising because of this. I'd like to see what happens if Nic from Gatsby's American Dreams shouts "I LOVE NAZI'S!" at his next show. Perhaps it won't be so apparent that they're loved and cherished by everyone.

[CT-Tim]

Gotta respect an honest man.

"a drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts"

Honesty without tact accomplishes nothing.

[yeknom]

Bright Eyes sucks and So does Connor, bright eyes is the most over rated band ever and horrible... i hope connor dies of a horrible horrible death.

Wow, you're an idiot. First, where some people may find his comments offensive, it has nothing to do with his music. overrated is one word, and you hope a horrible horrible death kills him?

[yc_mest]

haha that was funny but if this was someone like good charlotte or anyone else people would be going through the roof. just because its bright eyes a lot of people think its ok :headshake

[cutebutxdeadly]

haha that was funny but if this was someone like good charlotte or anyone else people would be going through the roof. just because its bright eyes a lot of people think its ok :headshake

nobody is saying it's okay, if you've read through the comments most people are angry. The only difference between this and GC is GC would end up on Access Hollywood.

[No Conversation]

it's funny,

it kind of reminds of a racist joke. someone tells one and you're like oh that's racist in your head but you can't help but laugh at it.

[tbsrocks820]

im from texas and i really dont care. we make fun of everyother state all the time and we have big heads and think we are the best. you cant make fun of people and then get upset when someone insults you back. i think its funny just because someone finally made fun of texas and we hear about.

[TheRunAround]

the award for most overrated songwriter is.....CONOR OBERST!!

seriously...i hate bush and neo-conservatives
but don't play a show absolutely wrecked and just bash things
maybe he should clean up his own life a little
and secondly...the dashboard comment...why does this guy think he's so much better than everyone? if you've ever been to a dashboard show especially like 2 years ago u'd know theres a lot more honesty there than in conor fukin oberst

[iAMhollyood315]

bright eyes sucks fucking cock, he music sucks shit too, despite his talent

[xearlynovemberx]

hahah holy shit tht was so fucking funny

[Kelley Nicole]

i can't believe how stupid some people are.
1. almost everyone who has replied to this thread is angered by what he said, even those of us who are fans of his.
2. no one should 'die a horrible death' because they said something stupid while drunk. making those comments, even as a joke (an unfunny joke, at that) is really immature and stupid.


it's funny how all these people are suddenly posting saying he posseses no talent and is a terrible songwriter, too...especially people with further seems forever icons. i understand people not liking his music, but to say he has no talent? no one's backing themselves up when they say it either; they're merely saying "he sucks and if you think he's good you know nothing about music."

there's a lot of things people are saying and i really want to know where they're getting it from. where have you read about him bragging about being friends with springsteen? yeah, he's being asked a lot about how it was to tour with him, but i've read many of the articles in recent months and he never once bragged about it. he stills seems to be a very modest guy. and the dashboard comment has nothing to do with him thinking he's better than anyone else. he's made it before, it's nothing new; it just distracts him when he sings.

and i'm not defending him; i already said it pissed me off that he did that and that he needs to clean up.

[The Apollo Kid]

Haha, i was just telling someone, the thing I love about stuff like this, is when someone's role model or icon fucks up, or says something out of line (not saying Conor did, but just in general) hardcore fans are stuck between Justifying his/her mistakes, or Coming to terms that their role model said something stupid. it's funny to see what approach fans take.

Why does this comment make me feel like some kinda lab rat?

[Gleebo]

fuck him hes from fucking nebraska...texas is a great state....go live in france...just cuz i like your music doesnt mean i like you...fuckhead

I agree. Any other time I would have been offended by someone bagging my state but this is kind of a point prover in this discussion. Kind of like the way that you can make fun of your own family to people as much as you want and it is okay but the second someone else insults your sister its a different story.

And yes Nebraska sucks.

[Rufio21]

im not from texas and hate bush too, but what an asshole Conor is for saying that about a whole state. I hope this shows he is not as great as so many people on here think he is.


OMG! I LUV CONOR, WHO DUSNT... LOL

[Jason Tate]

eh, I think the more important thing is: why aren't we discussing the truth behind some of his statements? Or better yet pondering just what the first amendment says ...

[Frank Giaramita]

Why does this comment make me feel like some kinda lab rat?

Hahahaha, sorry.

[Ryan Mills]

Ah, people are funny.

[mediocrgreenday]

i think its kinda funny.

[mediocrgreenday]

eh, I think the more important thing is: why aren't we discussing the truth behind some of his statements? Or better yet pondering just what the first amendment says ...

yeah i agree.. i like when people speak their mind. it makes them more of an individual, we dont have to agree with everything he says. even though i do in this case.

[ShoeSh1ne]

I just don't get drinking while doing a show. Maybe it's just me.

[mediocrgreenday]

I just don't get drinking while doing a show. Maybe it's just me.

calms the nerves.

[HoboAdam]

who cares about any of this

[marbury1414]

calms the nerves.

and makes you say stupid things that have nothing to do with your music

[Jason Tate]

I just don't get drinking while doing a show. Maybe it's just me.
Heh. The irony of the TBS icon ..

/sorry, someone hadda do it..

[Rent Boy]

thats awesome a roadie had to hold the trumpet player up now i wish i was that drunk right now sounds like fun and i bet alot of the stuff he was saying is true so who cares he may be drunk but he still knew what he was talking about

[Jason Tate]

and makes you say stupid things that have nothing to do with your music
Actually, couldn't it be argued that the comments have absolutely everything to do with his music... ?

[Jason Tate]

way to go at trying to be deep and failing miserably.
Yah, I was actually going for right smack dab in the middle of the blue. It's kinda obvious ... no?

[radiofriendly]

i am all about speaking your mind. I love to read in on Conor's political views every now and then. where i draw the line is when i pay money to go listen to music being played. i didn't pay money to listen to a lousy drunk make shallow stereotypes of a state i really do take a lot of pride in. It's why i had an issue with everything Don Henley did at that show in Cali back then(even though he's from Texas...ironic). it's not civilized conversation or debate, when somebody has the mic, house PA, and guitar and you can't even sing along to his songs. i love Bright Eyes music, i stand his views, but he needs to lay off the booze if it means making these kinds of comments.

and i guess i should have been expecting some of this when i buy a ticket to bright eyes, but still, but i hate when conor disrespects is fans like that. i mean that's his money isn't it? shouldn't there be some amount of class? i don't know. good article.

[ShoeboxMemories]

fuck it... it's what makes Conor... everyone knows that he's a drug user and a drunk.... he admits it in his songs and people still listen to him. It's just stupid how people take this shit seriously and when a band like Rancid sings about letting "California fall in the fucking ocean" its ok. fuck it... that's my attitude towards everything.... fuck it

[MrChainsaw389]

Something like that would totally ruin an artist for me. If they openly said they hate where I live and that people where I live rape indians and brand cattle, I wouldn't be able to listen to them without thinking of that.

[oxfordqueef]

eh, I think the more important thing is: why aren't we discussing the truth behind some of his statements? Or better yet pondering just what the first amendment says ...

how come i can't say *****?

[yourmom91685]

First I think it's completely ridiculous when people say that he should die for this. Second, this is a lame excuse for people to come out and say yeah his music sucks. Personally, I don't like his music that much, it's just not my style, although I do really enjoy a few of the desaparcidos songs. But I don't think that's the point. By no means do I have a problem with the guy speaking his mind. What I don't agree with is the setting and the ways in which he did it. Making music is this guys job. That's how he makes his living. If me or you went to work one day totally wasted and started bashing whoever we don't agree with, we'd be fired. When I pay to see a band play, I'm not giving them my money so that I can watch them stumble across the stage and insult people. What he did and said was inappropriate for the setting.

[ShoeSh1ne]

Heh. The irony of the TBS icon ..

/sorry, someone hadda do it..

Well, you hate them, so ....yeah. My point is that people pay money to see someone perform. Excess drinking will make the show not as good. I want to see someone perform, not chug beers.

Also, this is a Bright Eyes related thread.

[fluke182]

When I pay to see a band play, I'm not giving them my money so that I can watch them stumble across the stage and insult people. What he did and said was inappropriate for the setting.
Quoted for truth.

[fluke182]

Heh. The irony of the TBS icon ..

/sorry, someone hadda do it..
Honestly, was that really necessary? Sniping just incites these threads and makes this place even more of a drama haven than it already is.

[ShoeSh1ne]

Honestly, was that really necessary? Sniping just incites these threads and makes this place even more of a drama haven than it already is.

Gotta feed the machine.

[radiofriendly]

What I don't agree with is the setting and the ways in which he did it. Making music is this guys job. That's how he makes his living. If me or you went to work one day totally wasted and started bashing whoever we don't agree with, we'd be fired. When I pay to see a band play, I'm not giving them my money so that I can watch them stumble across the stage and insult people. What he did and said was inappropriate for the setting.

yeah, definitely agree. what really sucks though, is that for bright eyes fans(even non-fans) he put on a truly incredible show. it makes it that much more frustrating. i would have the same perspective if it was Dexter Freebish telling Massachussets the same things(***not that one is worst then the other***). i just think it needs to stay out the live shows, unless it's a special tour like with what he did with REM and Springsteen. then it would be appropriate because you'd be paying for the show, and the political atmosphere.

....does anyone else remember Dexter Freebish?? god that was a guilty pleasure

[road to joy]

Something like that would totally ruin an artist for me. If they openly said they hate where I live and that people where I live rape indians and brand cattle, I wouldn't be able to listen to them without thinking of that.

i disagree...i first of all think its stupid to get mad over conor voicing his opinion, partially cause its generally true (if you are to only look at stereotypes, history, and generalities...but then he's not exactly Howard Zinn, now is he? he's a singer) and mostly because to hate the music cause of the guy's outside comments is kind of silly and misdirected. i do agree that at certain points, when cowboys where roaming the wild texan plains, a lot of abuse was directed toward native americans, and i think that the way that they have been treated as a people over the course of the past two centuries is completely disgusting. i also happen to think that cattle branding is disgusting, but that stems from my opinion that meat is disgusting, and so i guess that is just a difference of opinion. i choose to confront the reality that animals are tortured for us to have a meal...some people have no problem turning the other way.

regardless, anyone who listens to his records/knows the band and goes to the shows knows exactly what they are getting into. if you don't like it, don't go. YOU paid to see the show...no one is making you go. yeah, conor's comments were a little bit off base, at least considering today's society on the whole (although i have never been to texas, so i'm not too sure about how native americans are treated)...but still. he has the right to say what he thinks...and he was drunk, so taking it too seriously is kind of ridiculous. but yeah. i don't know why he didn't pick some better insults...i mean, fuck, there have got to be some better shots you can take at texans, right?

[SLADE775]

:( :( :(

this thread is depresing

[oxfordqueef]

....does anyone else remember Dexter Freebish?? god that was a guilty pleasure

leaving town!

[chinesemanwhore]

eh, I think the more important thing is: why aren't we discussing the truth behind some of his statements? Or better yet pondering just what the first amendment says ...

If you are talking about the honesty in these statements there is none. Only thing that was honest was that he doesn't like the state. Last time i checked in with my friends who still live in texas they werent raping Indians and roping steers.

[mediocrgreenday]

and makes you say stupid things that have nothing to do with your music

alcohol makes you speak your mind, unless you dink wayyy too much. but usually when your good and drunk you will say whats on your mind, without worring about the consequenses. im not saying that every musician should get drunk before their shows or during, but why is it wrong for us to hear whats on their minds? and like tate said, what conor said has everything to do with his music.

[yc_mest]

nobody is saying it's okay, if you've read through the comments most people are angry. The only difference between this and GC is GC would end up on Access Hollywood.
what are you talking about a lot of people here arent even mad at all about it. most find it funny. all i was saying if it was someone else that not to many people liked everyone would be extremely pissed but since its bright eyes its not as bad

[mediocrgreenday]

Honestly, was that really necessary? Sniping just incites these threads and makes this place even more of a drama haven than it already is.

he did make a good point though, tbs is known to party just like bright eyes are, in fact most of the bands you listen too probably do a show or two intoxicated, or worse.

[Slowpoke]

This makes me love him even more.

I was at the show last night in Phoenix and Conor was only mildly drunk. He didnt say anything bad about Arizona but he did make a quick comback at someone that was heckling him. The trumpeteer was completely sober so I find it hard to believe that he was falling-over drunk on Monday.

[Chemical Love]

haha, i love what he said.

[blankster07]

This kid is an idiot. However, I do like the music.

[givingumonday]

There's a respectful way to get an honest point across, and there's a disrespectful way...You tell me which one of those describes Conor's comments.

Well I think that is obvious don't you think? It was very disrespectful. He's just giving poeple what they want in my eyes. ie: look at this thread. Josh

[leika]

Oh well. He didn't mean it to that extent I don't think. Texas fans shouldn't take it to heart.

[HugoOne]

Anyone else think he's a total dick for halting a song and stopping them from singing along? They paid for their ticket, let the fans do whatever the hell they want. I mean, you're a musician with catchy songs, what the hell do you think they're going to do? Oh well, don't care that much.

[Jared Kaufman]

I understand people not agreeing w/ Conor's comments, but to take away anything from his talent, musical ability, etc. because of them is absolutely ridiculous. That's like me taking away any credibility from Michael Jackson and saying he wasn't a musical / dancing genius because he says he likes to sleep in the same bed with kids (which I certainly don't agree with).

[godzillany]

Conor isn't a role momodelConnor isn't doing this because he thinks he's above everyone. He's an honest human, and yah he was drunk. Honestly I bet his live show wwouldn'tbe nearly as interesting if he wwasn't I know TBS' wweren't

Now i'm one of them fabled straight edge kids and honesty i dont care if someone im seeing is drunk or stoned as long as their music is still ttruthfuland enjoyable. I saw Bright Eyes two weeks ago he was drunk and hungover as he stated and it was the best pperformanceI've ever seen. What he does is his choice and his alone. If you dont like it oh well. But to wish death or to say its because he's high and mighty is just lashing out with ignorance. To each his own rright

Conor ddoesn'tpreach in songs (save one ok back off) he isn't on commercials telling you how to live your life. But he is an entertainer and he does have a forum for his voice to be heard and when the reasoning is right (this administration sucks) then more power to him for stating it. He earned that right, you dont have to listen you dont have to like it. Im assuming most people at that show knew what he meant and im sure Conor knew they would.

If there is a single person on here who hasn't once been in their home town and though "I hate this damn place" then i dont believe you. Watch I'll do it now "I wish to leave long island for a long time, im currently in CT for college and i'll never step foot in this state again." See what I mean? Yah he was a bit more vulgar about it but lighten up people. Ignore how he says things and listen to what he says.

ramble over.

[marbury1414]

he did make a good point though, tbs is known to party just like bright eyes are, in fact most of the bands you listen too probably do a show or two intoxicated, or worse.

But it doesn't make it ok...even if "everyone" does a show or two intoxicated thats still cheating people out of what they paid for. If "everyone" started doing shows drunk all the time they would turn into Creed. It's fine for people who weren't there to take this whatever way they may, but I would feel awkward and a little bit cheated if I was at a show and I was watching an artist who was obviously drunk.

[marbury1414]

Conor isn't a role momodelConnor isn't doing this because he thinks he's above everyone. He's an honest human, and yah he was drunk. Honestly I bet his live show wwouldn'tbe nearly as interesting if he wwasn't I know TBS' wweren't

Now i'm one of them fabled straight edge kids and honesty i dont care if someone im seeing is drunk or stoned as long as their music is still ttruthfuland enjoyable. I saw Bright Eyes two weeks ago he was drunk and hungover as he stated and it was the best pperformanceI've ever seen. What he does is his choice and his alone. If you dont like it oh well. But to wish death or to say its because he's high and mighty is just lashing out with ignorance. To each his own rright

Conor ddoesn'tpreach in songs (save one ok back off) he isn't on commercials telling you how to live your life. But he is an entertainer and he does have a forum for his voice to be heard and when the reasoning is right (this administration sucks) then more power to him for stating it. He earned that right, you dont have to listen you dont have to like it. Im assuming most people at that show knew what he meant and im sure Conor knew they would.

If there is a single person on here who hasn't once been in their home town and though "I hate this damn place" then i dont believe you. Watch I'll do it now "I wish to leave long island for a long time, im currently in CT for college and i'll never step foot in this state again." See what I mean? Yah he was a bit more vulgar about it but lighten up people. Ignore how he says things and listen to what he says.

ramble over.

haha, you may be straightedge but you sure type like you're drunk

[Brooklyn Kid]

Singing along bums him out.
What an idiot.

[number1alien]

Conor Oberst is my hero.

The singing along comment he made is kind of pompous and arrogant, though.

[rewindthistime]

Well, you hate them, so ....yeah. My point is that people pay money to see someone perform. Excess drinking will make the show not as good. I want to see someone perform, not chug beers.

Also, this is a Bright Eyes related thread.

jason's point was that adam lazzara has had several incidents involving being way too drunk at a show and then pretty much ruining the show. and you're sitting there completely against getting drunk during a show. so it's just kind of ironic.

[weworemasks]

talent or no talent, hes an asshole. ive never gotten into his music, but i know hes from omaha, nebraska, and dallas, texas is a whole lot better than omaha.

im glad everyone who is from texas is a fa.ggot who ropes steers and rapes indians too. real clever. it would happen in omaha before it happened in dallas, tx thats for sure.

he is fucking full of himself. if he plays SxSw he will get shit on by some, and others will continue to ride his high horse with him.

but hey, the guy dated winona, so scene points to him for that.

[bostonHxC]

im not a big fan of bright eyes but i really gotta hand it to connor.

An emo kid with balls. As much as i hate bright eyes i hate texans even more.

[Merchsquad]

I don't know about you guys, but the Dashboard comment made me fall off my chair laughing. ...I'm too easily amused.

C'mon - If kids didnt sing along to bright eyes then where would an angle come from?

[Jason Tate]

If you are talking about the honesty in these statements there is none. Only thing that was honest was that he doesn't like the state. Last time i checked in with my friends who still live in texas they werent raping Indians and roping steers.
Well, my girlfriend is from Texas ... and we've discussed the inhabitants many times, and I've discussed my distaste for much of what the state stands for (and their history of how they got there ... ).

Not all parts of Texas are obviously as horrendous and fit the description ... but there are others that are even worse....

[cutebutxdeadly]

C'mon - If kids didnt sing along to bright eyes then where would an angle come from?

I think that it was arrogant of him to stop the song and tell the audience that it bums him out, but the fact he said it made him feel like Dashboard just cracked me up. Everyone makes fun of DC, even the kids who like the band. It's the scene thing to do.

[SLADE775]

:BoomSmili :35: = [CONOR]

[sweatydancer]

I loved his comments... and I love seeing artists behave like humans. I've said more dumb shit than I care to admit, but luckily no one cares to listen. I fucking hate texas, I got a speeding ticket there driving cross country and we had our car searched for drugs. Fuck that place.

The Dashboard Comment was one of the most brilliant things Ive ever heard. I did not pay to hear some shitty kids singing, I came for the artist whose name is on the ticket.

[SLADE775]

Well, my girlfriend is from Texas ... and we've discussed the inhabitants many times, and I've discussed my distaste for much of what the state stands for (and their history of how they got there ... ).

Not all parts of Texas are obviously as horrendous and fit the description ... but there are others that are even worse....


This whole thread is one big stereotypical zoo!


and i'm the monkey :munky:

[aheroinmyeyes]

talent or no talent, hes an asshole. ive never gotten into his music, but i know hes from omaha, nebraska, and dallas, texas is a whole lot better than omaha.

im glad everyone who is from texas is a fa.ggot who ropes steers and rapes indians too. real clever. it would happen in omaha before it happened in dallas, tx thats for sure.

he is fucking full of himself. if he plays SxSw he will get shit on by some, and others will continue to ride his high horse with him.

but hey, the guy dated winona, so scene points to him for that.

what is ironic about this comment is how you are accusing him of making unnecessary comments about a state while bashing nebraska at the same time. if conor made the comments you did while on stage there would be an uproar, but you didn't think anything about saying them. that is the whole point, if it were anyone else besides him making a sarcastic comment while drunk it would be okay. granted, being on stage while in texas might not have been the best time, but if it's what he is thinking i think he should go ahead and say it.

about the whole being drunk on stage deal: i expect that at a bright eyes show. so the kid likes to drink, thats not my problem. if the show falls apart because of, it i might be upset, but as long as the music keeps coming and no one in the band passes out i dont really mind. when i saw him he was tipsy, of course, and even fell down, but i didnt hold it against him.

regarding his "no singing" policy: if i were him i might do the same thing. seeing him live is a great experience, but the fans are just out of control. the things they yell are just uncalled for and immature, and if i were him i would get totally fed up with it. also, if you're an introverted person to begin with who doesn't want to be constantly held up on this golden pedestal and pratically worshiped, you might react the same way. i was getitng tired of the fans at the show and i don't have to deal with that every night like he must.

i'm not agreeing with what he said, i just don't think it should cause such an uproar.

[SLADE775]

I loved his comments... and I love seeing artists behave like humans. I've said more dumb shit than I care to admit, but luckily no one cares to listen. I fucking hate texas, I got a speeding ticket there driving cross country and we had our car searched for drugs. Fuck that place.

The Dashboard Comment was one of the most brilliant things Ive ever heard. I did not pay to hear some shitty kids singing, I came for the artist whose name is on the ticket.


Yeah man, and what happened to jessica biel :headshake its a dangerous place.

[Frank Giaramita]

I'd figured I'd chime in, since I haven't in 7 pages. Of course, people are entitled to their opinions on things, but I think an opinion is 100% worthless and disregarded if it's not expressed in a tactful and/or respectful way. Regardless of what angle you look at it from, Conor did not do it in a respectful way at all, and he did it with words that are meant to hurt and piss people off. I agree, freedom of speech is a great thing and making comments such as Conor did won't land him in prison, but it will land him dead in a ditch off of a Texas highway. Of course the first ammendment could allow people to say generally anything they want, but it doesnt mean other people can't counter express what you have to say or get really upset and pissed off with it. Conor was downright wrong for expressing his opinion in the manner he did. People look up to him, and in essence pay his bills, he should atleast have the courtesy to say what he believes in a professional and respectful manner. Period.

[fourletterword]

C'mon - If kids didnt sing along to bright eyes then where would an angle come from?


And i thought there was going to actually be a thread about Bright Eyes/An angle without mentioning the other.

And to anyone that listens to Bright Eyes and goes and sees Conor should well know well in advance he is going to be drunk. It's not like he is trying to hide that at all.

[rewindthistime]

And i thought there was going to actually be a thread about Bright Eyes/An angle without mentioning the other.

And to anyone that listens to Bright Eyes and goes and sees Conor should well know well in advance he is going to be drunk. It's not like he is trying to hide that at all.

very true with both comments

[whyzell]

Texas sucks.

[Jason Tate]

I'd figured I'd chime in, since I haven't in 7 pages. Of course, people are entitled to their opinions on things, but I think an opinion is 100% worthless and disregarded if it's not expressed in a tactful and/or respectful way. Regardless of what angle you look at it from, Conor did not do it in a respectful way at all, and he did it with words that are meant to hurt and piss people off. I agree, freedom of speech is a great thing and making comments such as Conor did won't land him in prison, but it will land him dead in a ditch off of a Texas highway. Of course the first ammendment could allow people to say generally anything they want, but it doesnt mean other people can't counter express what you have to say or get really upset and pissed off with it. Conor was downright wrong for expressing his opinion in the manner he did. People look up to him, and in essence pay his bills, he should atleast have the courtesy to say what he believes in a professional and respectful manner. Period.
Disagree. People should refrain from being crybabies when someone says something they don't like. Or at least back it up with anything (stats showing Texans do in fact not rape Indians, and never did) besides a comment of, "I don't like it .."

Interestingly enough one man's opinions only take on this high horse "greater meaning" when everyone here goes on and on about it for 8 pages - the continued discussion only showcases his words.

[sceneunheard]

That Dashboard comment everyone is freaking out over isn't anything new, he's said it before. Hell, I even like DC and I still think it's funny.

[here4ulaw]

like i needed another reason to hate the stupid drunk even more than i already do.
thanks absolutepunk!

[Adrian Villagomez]

Since I don't care about Conor or Bright Eyes, he can stay the hell out. If he starts making music that interests me, then I'll think about letting him back in.

[Frank Giaramita]

Disagree. People should refrain from being crybabies when someone says something they don't like. Or at least back it up with anything (stats showing Texans do in fact not rape Indians, and never did) besides a comment of, "I don't like it .."

Interestingly enough one man's opinions only take on this high horse "greater meaning" when everyone here goes on and on about it for 8 pages - the continued discussion only showcases his words.

Then the same argument could be made for my view on the situation... Conor should back up his comments by showing evidence that Texans do in fact rape Indians and always have, besides simply stating it without evidence. I think if you're going to showcase your opinion to hundreds of people at a venue, you should atleast have the courtesy to do it in a respectful way, it's really not asking much. I do agree, people shouldn't be crybabies over things, but some words and actions should be off limits, regardless. Hence why words and remarks such as ******, ***got, and ***** aren't condoned on this site, because although it's freedom of speech, it can still hurt and piss people off. If things of that nature aren't condoned on a website forum, I don't see why they should be condoned on stage in front of a group of 800 people idolize and look up to you.

[Bikeage]

well you play drunk all the time. so does that make you scott stapp? alchie...

lol i've played shows drunk before, it's not a big deal unless it starts taking away from the performance, and I know for a fact it doesn't for us :)

[kissbangkill]

personally i don't give a shit if he was drunk or not, that was fucking not cool to say. obviously i'm from texas, and i too love this state to death. i would rather be from texas than any other place in the entire world. i've lived in every part of texas you can live in. i've lived in a town of ten thousand people, and i currently live in the fourth biggest city in the country. granted every state does have it's ups and downs, but drunk or not, conor should realize that what he said was a clear alienation of his fans. i love his music and i've been listening to him for years now and it's obviously not suprising that he was drunk, but i can't honestly say that i'm not offended by what he said...

but hey, this is coming from a guy that has a giant texas tattoo on his forarm.

to quote the rise, "texas.. bigger than france."

[Signals Corrupted]

if bright eyes made fun of california, i'd probably laugh.

[SLADE775]

if conor made fun of NEVADA, kenny rogers would kick his fuckin ass.

[skaught]

i'm not reading through all the replies, but just a point of reference, Bush was born in Connecticut, not Texas.

[weworemasks]

if conor made fun of NEVADA, kenny rogers would kick his fuckin ass.

ahahahahaha

[Kelley Nicole]

Rufio21: Rufio21 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.

so. yes but i really think all i could do would be news.

[Bikeage]

personally i don't give a shit if he was drunk or not, that was fucking not cool to say. obviously i'm from texas, and i too love this state to death. i would rather be from texas than any other place in the entire world. i've lived in every part of texas you can live in. i've lived in a town of ten thousand people, and i currently live in the fourth biggest city in the country. granted every state does have it's ups and downs, but drunk or not, conor should realize that what he said was a clear alienation of his fans. i love his music and i've been listening to him for years now and it's obviously not suprising that he was drunk, but i can't honestly say that i'm not offended by what he said...

but hey, this is coming from a guy that has a giant texas tattoo on his forarm.

to quote the rise, "texas.. bigger than france."

perfect example of why he was kinda right

[ForeverInADay]

if conor made fun of NEVADA, kenny rogers would kick his fuckin ass.
HAHAHAHAHAHA Kenny Rogers is the man!

[Brooklyn Kid]

That Dashboard comment everyone is freaking out over isn't anything new, he's said it before. Hell, I even like DC and I still think it's funny.


Gee, some douchebag rips on Dashboard Confessional. How original.

Don't people understand that he says those comments so people think he is oh so aware and still "indy"? Oberst knows he's a whiny crybaby who happens to write pretentious songs on an acoustic guitar but maybe if he says something about Dashboard Confessional it somehow dispels any connection between the two (or hopes to make one to sell some records.) He's a total fake and KNOWS it. He just hopes you don't.

I mean, love it or hate it, at least Dashboard Confessional is honest and unapologetic about their music; I'd prefer that to the scenester bullshit that Conor Oberst pulls. Ugh...such a phony.

[kissbangkill]

perfect example of why he was kinda right

yeah, he was totally right. i rope steers and rape indians. you win.

[greyxmundos]

did anyone record it???

[tvsmattbrowne]

i didnt know conor was the newest member of the dixie chicks...

but anyhow, hes a fucking rockstar, thats awesome. \

[SLADE775]

i didnt know conor was the newest member of the dixie chicks...

but anyhow, hes a fucking rockstar, thats awesome. \



hahahahahaha awesome............exfuckinactly what this thread needs.

[cutebutxdeadly]

i didnt know conor was the newest member of the dixie chicks...


HAHAHAHA. scene points.

[Paul Tao]

i was wondering when somebody would bring up dixie chicks

[SLADE775]

i was wondering when somebody would bring up dixie chicks


Cause they spoke out against BUSH and practicly the whole cuntry scene. ( oh he said WHEN! I could of sworn it said WHY) o well




www.absolutehick.com they have a scene too. :wink3:

[Bikeage]

Gee, some douchebag rips on Dashboard Confessional. How original.

Don't people understand that he says those comments so people think he is oh so aware and still "indy"? Oberst knows he's a whiny crybaby who happens to write pretentious songs on an acoustic guitar but maybe if he says something about Dashboard Confessional it somehow dispels any connection between the two (or hopes to make one to sell some records.) He's a total fake and KNOWS it. He just hopes you don't.

I mean, love it or hate it, at least Dashboard Confessional is honest and unapologetic about their music; I'd prefer that to the scenester bullshit that Conor Oberst pulls. Ugh...such a phony.

You're a fucking idiot. Please don't talk about music/musicians until you know what the fuck you are talking about.

[SLADE775]

Gee, some douchebag rips on Dashboard Confessional. How original.

Don't people understand that he says those comments so people think he is oh so aware and still "indy"? Oberst knows he's a whiny crybaby who happens to write pretentious songs on an acoustic guitar but maybe if he says something about Dashboard Confessional it somehow dispels any connection between the two (or hopes to make one to sell some records.) He's a total fake and KNOWS it. He just hopes you don't.

I mean, love it or hate it, at least Dashboard Confessional is honest and unapologetic about their music; I'd prefer that to the scenester bullshit that Conor Oberst pulls. Ugh...such a phony.


this is truly an Idiotic statement at best.

Conors lyrics are much more intricate and thought provoking then DC's
I'd reference it but it's not worth it. Just look at conors VOCABUALRY!

[chinesemanwhore]

Well, my girlfriend is from Texas ... and we've discussed the inhabitants many times, and I've discussed my distaste for much of what the state stands for (and their history of how they got there ... ).

Not all parts of Texas are obviously as horrendous and fit the description ... but there are others that are even worse....



im not trying to be a smartass when i ask you this, im just curious but what is you or your girlfriends impression of the people that live in texas and how it came to be a state?

and i do agree with what you have said here but it is just as true as in any city, state, or country

[inST0RESNOW]

im not from texas and hate bush too, but what an asshole Conor is for saying that about a whole state. I hope this shows he is not as great as so many people on here think he is.

Actually, Conor has more audacity than most musicians who'll just play a set without any interaction.

[falloutncambria]

what a fucking idiot that guy is. texas is a bad ass state and it's citizens are more proud to be from texas than anyone else from any other place. i dont care how shitfaced one might be, people payed to see the guy perform only to hear him rag on them. and the music is a joke in the first place.

[SLADE775]

what a fucking idiot that guy is. texas is a bad ass state and it's citizens are more proud to be from texas than anyone else from any other place. i dont care how shitfaced one might be, people payed to see the guy perform only to hear him rag on them. and the music is a joke in the first place.


I dont know man, kenny rogers has a lot of pride in nevada (hookers)

[mediocrgreenday]

basically this sums it all up: Conor Oberst is smarter then all of us. He says what he wants to say because he can.

[butIfellFORher]

Haha Sweet!

[Kelley Nicole]

so there's a review of his new albums in the issue of people that just came out and they gave them a 4/4 and a 2.5/4. i thought there might be one person who has replied here so far who would care. just one.

plus i'm getting sick of everyone repeating the same things. conor sucks/no he doesnt/i love texas/blah blah blah.

[cutebutxdeadly]

so there's a review of his new albums in the issue of people that just came out and they gave them a 4/4 and a 2.5/4.

which cd got what rating?

[SLADE775]

so there's a review of his new albums in the issue of people that just came out and they gave them a 4/4 and a 2.5/4. i thought there might be one person who has replied here so far who would care. just one.

plus i'm getting sick of everyone repeating the same things. conor sucks/no he doesnt/i love texas/blah blah blah.


Obviously this thread (after 9 pages) has just become random bashing and redundacy.


so kick back and have a good laugh at this point :lol2:


or go masturbate (yeah, I know yer a chick, its good for you too)

[to say we End]

first of all, in case in the asshole missed the point of that "texas" joke, Oberst was probably referring to the Texan that is currently our President whom he obviously hates... As far as being trashed on stage and telling people not to sing along... it's his show... no one goes to a show to hear a bunch of other people sing along to a bands song.. they go to see the band perform their own songs...

fuck the universe. listen to bright eyes.

/thread

the president wasnt even born in texas and he bought his ranch 2 weeks before the new hampshire primaries when he was first running for president....

[SLADE775]

which cd got what rating?



Digital ash got the lower rating.............I personally liked ASH better



wait, did I just contradict myself???????????????????

[cutebutxdeadly]

Obviously this thread (after 9 pages) has just become random bashing and redundacy.


so kick back and have a good laugh at this point :lol2:


or go masturbate (yeah, I know yer a chick, its good for you too)


we're pretty much the only people still looking at this post.

it's times like these i wish i had something better to do on a friday night.

[Kelley Nicole]

which cd got what rating?
wide awake got a 4, digital ash got the 2.5
and they're calling the best songs on the albums "first day of my life" and "theme from a pinata" too. not that you asked.

[SLADE775]

we're pretty much the only people still looking at this post.

it's times like these i wish i had something better to do on a friday night.


This is my last post of the day!


I'm going to ARIZONA for the MAE show next week, so a keep on truckin everyone.


see you in a week (who the hell do I think I am???!!!)

[cutebutxdeadly]

wide awake got a 4, digital ash got the 2.5
and they're calling the best songs on the albums "first day of my life" and "theme from a pinata" too. not that you asked.

I find it strange that a magazine with brad pitt and jennifer aniston's break up on the cover has a review of bright eyes inside.

[cutebutxdeadly]

This is my last post of the day!


I'm going to ARIZONA for the MAE show next week, so a keep on truckin everyone.


see you in a week (who the hell do I think I am???!!!)

your comedic posts will be missed, along with your scene points. well by me anyways. have fun monkey.

[Kelley Nicole]

we're pretty much the only people still looking at this post.

it's times like these i wish i had something better to do on a friday night.
haha ahh me too. this is why i can't wait for the this summer when all my friends will be back, and after that finishing up my last year at community college which sucks more than i could have ever imagined. what sucks even more is i could be visiting my friend who has a huge dorm room all to herself this weekend...right now actually...like my other good friends from high school are but couldn't because of a death in the family. not to make it sound like the death is no big deal because it's a huge deal and i've been a mess this past week over it but...why i'm posting about this, here especially, i don't know.
I find it strange that a magazine with brad pitt and jennifer aniston's break up on the cover has a review of bright eyes inside.
correction: julia roberts. gosh. and actually, they do one review every week/every other week/monthly of a decent band. i was expecting this at some point since bright eyes is so huge now.

[ForeverInADay]

the only point in this post is to try and help push it to a page 15 :D

[cutebutxdeadly]

haha ahh me too. this is why i can't wait for the this summer when all my friends will be back, and after that finishing up my last year at community college which sucks more than i could have ever imagined. what sucks even more is i could be visiting my friend who has a huge dorm room all to herself this weekend...right now actually...like my other good friends from high school are but couldn't because of a death in the family. not to make it sound like the death is no big deal because it's a huge deal and i've been a mess this past week over it but...why i'm posting about this, here especially, i don't know.

correction: julia roberts. gosh. and actually, they do one review every week/every other week/monthly of a decent band. i was expecting this at some point since bright eyes is so huge now.

ahhh summer. how i miss it. i'm really looking forward to march break though; me and a good friend are filming a tv show and pitching it to a crappy local station because that's our best bet. i'm sorry to hear about a death in your family, that's a huge bummer. my condolences.

oh my, sorry. how could i have made such a horrible mistake, brad and jen are so last week. the twins are the latest news.

[cutebutxdeadly]

the only point in this post is to try and help push it to a page 15 :D

i'm up to the challenge.

[ForeverInADay]

i'm up to the challenge.
hahaha okay ive got about 15 minutes to spare before i leave. (check out the Say Anything video on www.breakingcustom.com in the Multimedia section)

Im going to stray off topic even more so lol are you going to straylight next saturday?

[cutebutxdeadly]

hahaha okay ive got about 15 minutes to spare before i leave. (check out the Say Anything video on www.breakingcustom.com in the Multimedia section)

Im going to stray off topic even more so lol are you going to straylight next saturday?

i'm not really into SR; i like a few songs but it's not worth going for me. i'm waiting for everyone to release their new albums and then i'm going to every show i possibly can.

[ForeverInADay]

i'm not really into SR; i like a few songs but it's not worth going for me. i'm waiting for everyone to release their new albums and then i'm going to every show i possibly can.
haha awesome, sounds like a damn good plan. going to any upcoming shows?

[cutebutxdeadly]

haha awesome, sounds like a damn good plan. going to any upcoming shows?

haven't looked at ticketmaster in a while.. who's coming besides SR?

[Kelley Nicole]

ahhh summer. how i miss it. i'm really looking forward to march break though; me and a good friend are filming a tv show and pitching it to a crappy local station because that's our best bet. i'm sorry to hear about a death in your family, that's a huge bummer. my condolences.

oh my, sorry. how could i have made such a horrible mistake, brad and jen are so last week. the twins are the latest news.
good luck with show. my friends and i had plans like that last summer (not for a tv show, but we were going to film an avenged sevenfold video because we think they're music is really cheesy...and really no one would understand how this is funny unless you know my friends ex). anyway i completely forgot about spring break; just a little over a month left...i need that so bad.
and thanks :) i felt silly after posting that, getting personal in a stupid music forum. the wake was just yesterday though and...stuff.


haha they're still not over the brad jennifer thing. they just got a tiny picture in the corner (or he did) instead of a full cover.

[unholy_amanda]

Aww Conor let his words slip. It happens to everyone, but moreso when you're drunk.. so I'm not going to say he should've thought it through. I do think he should clean up though, but he writes awesome music so I'm not going to complain.

[ForeverInADay]

haven't looked at ticketmaster in a while.. who's coming besides SR?
Epitaph Tour March 10th
Norma Jean/Scars Of Tomorrow/Atreyu/Unearth - March 9th
Underminded/Shotgun Rules/ Away From Here - Feb 28th i think?
Fueled By Ramen Family and Friends Tour - April 26th
Jimmy Eat World and Taking Back Sunday - no date

[GlassyLight]

Ok. It's been established that Conor Oberst doesn't like George Bush, or the ideals that he stands for. You'd think he'd be more pro-tolerance and accepting of those that are not like him based on that. However, he goes out of his way to make it known that he vehemently dislikes all of those that don't agree with his viewpoints. I saw this tour at its kickoff in Omaha, and he made it a point to make sure everyone knew that he thought if anyone was Pro-Bush, that they were full of shit.

Also, it's terrible how it's become "acceptable" to some to bash Texas/the south/that breed of people. Had he said "I hate black people, don't steal my stereo" or some other stupid stereotype, he'd have been universally branded a bigot on the spot. Instead, he spouts off some stupid stereotype that's "accepted", and some people applaud it. Fucking ridiculous.

Fuck this hypocrite. He's never getting a cent of my money again.

[cutebutxdeadly]

good luck with show. my friends and i had plans like that last summer (not for a tv show, but we were going to film an avenged sevenfold video because we think they're music is really cheesy...and really no one would understand how this is funny unless you know my friends ex). anyway i completely forgot about spring break; just a little over a month left...i need that so bad.
and thanks :) i felt silly after posting that, getting personal in a stupid music forum. the wake was just yesterday though and...stuff.


haha they're still not over the brad jennifer thing. they just got a tiny picture in the corner (or he did) instead of a full cover.

thanks =) haha i love the video idea. the same friend and i have plans to make a short film for amusement as well, with a sequel. we should make some music vids too.
ah it just comes out sometimes y'know? you just can't hold it in anymore.

-shakes head- that's pathetic.

[cutebutxdeadly]

Epitaph Tour March 10th
Norma Jean/Scars Of Tomorrow/Atreyu/Unearth - March 9th
Underminded/Shotgun Rules/ Away From Here - Feb 28th i think?
Fueled By Ramen Family and Friends Tour - April 26th
Jimmy Eat World and Taking Back Sunday - no date

i might check out TBS depending on the price. i REALLY wanted to go see them with atreyu and ffaf but things didn't work out.

[riotmute]

this man continues to get more and more pretentious as his fame rises. i'm extremely happy for saddle-creek - the success they are having is incredible. but conor oberst's ego is getting out of control. if he continues his dumb antics, he will get spat on again

[geoffismyhero]

sometimes you just have to let loose and state your opinions
and what better audience then a bunch of dumbfounded texans right?
i mean if he said that about Portland i would totally agree.

[thecatisblack22]

If he hadn't been so hammered, he might not have been spiting out insults like he was, but obviously he had something to say. Oh well, listen to 'em anyway, they're a pretty good band.

[Sinister Rouge]

This reminds me of Bill Maher calling the South the dumbest region of the country...I love it...I hate this shithole, I live here. So fucking nationalistic and pride for a stupid piece of land.

Does anyone have an mp3 of "When The President Talks To God"?

[Kelley Nicole]

when the president talks to god (mp3) (http://s15.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1469HDEB1UZOB3ODNYTV66YEI 3)

[HailTheHartBrak]

I don't know about you guys, but the Dashboard comment made me fall off my chair laughing. ...I'm too easily amused.


yes you are, atleast dashboard is not an asshole to his fans.

[Brooklyn Kid]

You're a fucking idiot. Please don't talk about music/musicians until you know what the fuck you are talking about.

Aww don't be sore. The scene police still back you and your musical "taste" in Bright Eyes, I'm sure.

[godzillany]

im not sure how this makes Conor a hypocrite? And to compare muscial/career credibility to Dashboard is a joke. What Conor has done for indie labels is unfathomable, where Dashboard fucked over Drive- Thru first chance he got and just sold out a little more on each album.

UGH im done

[fluke182]

Then the same argument could be made for my view on the situation... Conor should back up his comments by showing evidence that Texans do in fact rape Indians and always have, besides simply stating it without evidence. I think if you're going to showcase your opinion to hundreds of people at a venue, you should atleast have the courtesy to do it in a respectful way, it's really not asking much. I do agree, people shouldn't be crybabies over things, but some words and actions should be off limits, regardless. Hence why words and remarks such as ******, ***got, and ***** aren't condoned on this site, because although it's freedom of speech, it can still hurt and piss people off. If things of that nature aren't condoned on a website forum, I don't see why they should be condoned on stage in front of a group of 800 people idolize and look up to you.
Here here Frank. Speak it loud and speak it proud.

[poppa Q]

fuck the universe. listen to bright eyes.

/thread

sorry i'm thirteen pages late, but i could not stop laughing at that.

[Kelley Nicole]

fucking ***got gay bitch ass hanging chad licking shit fart ***** bitch!
seriously, what the fuck. i don't understand the point of that. was it supposed to offend me? why do so many people in these forums act like complete retards?

[cutebutxdeadly]

fucking ***got gay bitch ass hanging chad licking shit fart ***** bitch!
seriously, what the fuck. i don't understand the point of that. was it supposed to offend me? why do so many people in these forums act like complete retards?

hahaha I GOT THAT TOO!! at like 8:00.

[cutebutxdeadly]

mission accomplished... 19 pages.

[IcarusInFlames]

Fuck you people on your goddamn soapboxes saying how he's wrong and fans deserve better.
Once you achieve any sort of fame outside an internet music forum then you can talk shit. He can say or do whatever he wants, and he did. Its his show. If you don't like it dont fucking go.
If you went and were pissed off at the performance dont go again. Just don't fucking sit here and act like you can preach because you don't like what he said. I don't like what you say. You don't like what I say. Get over it.

And to the idiot who said he should go to France: a die-hard "patriot" like yourself should recognize that Conor being able to talk shit about Texas/America is one of the tenets this country was founded on. So if YOU don't like what he has to say, then voice your opinion and let him voice is.

[Brooklyn Kid]

Dashboard fucked over Drive- Thru


You believe everything you read. Sweet. Now stay outta my borough.

[CrySonic]

this man continues to get more and more pretentious as his fame rises. i'm extremely happy for saddle-creek - the success they are having is incredible. but conor oberst's ego is getting out of control. if he continues his dumb antics, he will get spat on again
i hope so and i totally agree.

[Cheddar]

Is it really that big a surprise that Conor Oberst doesn't give a crap about anyone and is completely messed up? What did you think his songs were about, a bad box of Lucky Charms?

[PaperclipAnemia]

here's the thing:

Conor is good.

He knows it.

He gets drunk.

He feels what he says has no ramifications due to his newly found fame.

end of story.

[Kelley Nicole]

oh my god, i swear people are becoming more and more retarded here:

let's see what i said in my original post: it's funny how all these people are suddenly posting saying he posseses no talent and is a terrible songwriter, too...especially people with further seems forever icons.

where did i say they have no talent? oh, right, i didn't. but i don't think people who love them have any right to come here and say bright eyes sucks and not back themselves up on that opinion. i personally think conor oberst is a hell of a lot more talented than they are.

[bostonHxC]

Which ***gots gave me a negative response to my post. Die you depressed emo fucks.

[godzillany]

You believe everything you read. Sweet. Now stay outta my borough.

aren't you just believing what you read? dun dun dunnnnnnn.

And Brooklyn is Spot Collins' territory... everyone knows that

[GamEin]

Well that kind of sucks since I'm from Texas. But the show he played in Austin 2 days ago he was all kinds of respectful, so it's okay.

[beer]

mmmm! i love beer

[PaperclipAnemia]

Which ***gots gave me a negative response to my post. Die you depressed emo fucks.

same to you you reactionary, hardcore prick.

[boyinastitch]

i am the next conor oberst

[fork_in_outlet]

Yeah bummer, cause there are a lot of cool people from Texas. When The President Talks To God is a great song though.

[fork_in_outlet]

same to you you reactionary, hardcore prick.
My thoughts exactly.

[PaperclipAnemia]

oh yeah

[Ambien]

Way too lazy to read all these replies. Bright Eyes hates Bush and he's allowed to say it whenever and wherever he wants. Some people hate it...but judging by his popularity most people don't give a shit. I couldn't care either way, I have my own opinion and I'd have to get into a little more depth with Bright Eyes about the president if I was to alter my opinion because of what he said. Bush, and Colin Powell are big deceivers and we're all victim's...it's okay though because Bush has done some good things for the country...so he can lie to us as long as the US doesn't suffer as a nation and I still get the medicare I deserve when I'm 65. I love politics just as much as I hate them...which is a lot. It's okay to ignore the millions of people being brutally slaughtered all over Africa...we have more important issues...like Iraq...right?

But seriously Bright Eyes if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. After all that's what I was taught in this goddamn country born on a heritage of free speech and the value of everyone's opinion. Is it really all that great when I feel helpless to change anything that's going on?

If I ruled the world...

[sealed]

you idiots have been talking about conor on an online message board for 14 pages.


conor is laughing all the way to the bank.

[Sinister Rouge]

when the president talks to god (mp3) (http://s15.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1469HDEB1UZOB3ODNYTV66YEI 3)

thanx, love the song...

[weworemasks]

Well that kind of sucks since I'm from Texas. But the show he played in Austin 2 days ago he was all kinds of respectful, so it's okay.

because austin is a town known for pretentious stuck up elitest pricks, much like conor oberst.
shows in austin, especially recently have been a fucking fashion show. the crowd for coheed and cambria/underoath was a fucking disgrace. the crowd for northstar/slr/SA was the same.
all of these new tours coming up (big ones) including underoath, falloutboy, epitaph, and take action have all decided to skip austin this time around. i wouldnt be surprised if it was because of the majority of the crowd being complete assholes.

all you austinites dont get pissy and shit all over my post, but not all of you are assholes. ive met very cool people in austin, but 87.6% of the crowds at shows are full of shit.

[justanact]

Yeah but this is much more worthy of replies than Adam's new haricut.
wait wait wait wait......adam got a new haircut?!?!?!?! and nobody TOLD ME!!!!?

[bostonHxC]

same to you you reactionary, hardcore prick.

I crowd punch kids like you

[Brooklyn Kid]

aren't you just believing what you read? dun dun dunnnnnnn.

And Brooklyn is Spot Collins' territory... everyone knows that

Um, no actually, I'm just reacting to words that you are directly posting. Waa Waa Waaaaaaa.

Nice try though.

[Brooklyn Kid]

I crowd punch kids like you


Why? Because you can escape into aforementioned crowd and not have it be one on one?

[Lemieux66]

Texas is actually a very charming, cultured place to live,

Austin aside, it's really not. Austin is not representative of Texas at all, and that's the reason why a lot of people like it. The rest of Texas is arguably the most non or single cultured region in the nation.

And for the charming bit...Are you kidding me?

[Blacktieopt]

fuck him hes from fucking nebraska...texas is a great state....go live in france...just cuz i like your music doesnt mean i like you...fuckhead

Typical. Go eat your freedom fries.

[yc_soco]

Actually, Conor has more audacity than most musicians who'll just play a set without any interaction.
So you would just rather hear some guy that seems like so many people on here are in love with make up things like raping Indians cuz you think thats cool or cuz you think thats better then not talking? It is a lot better to interact with the crowd but bad interaction isnt. I just think its funny cuz if he said that in the streets to half of the people in Texas his ass would be beat so bad. He just says it on stage so that all the security guards can protect him

[juan_believes]

And here come the 15 pages of replies....

here they went

[kylekillspeople]

maybe in his drunken stupor he didnt remember that he was from NEBRASKA

[homerjay]

I crowd punch kids like you

Nothing says "hardcore" like internet threats.

Wiener.

[cheeruptheEmo]

i heart you conor. haha. he was joking i bet. why would he risk to lose fans and say that. but hey anything is possible with conor. thats what i love.

[GlassyLight]

i heart you conor. haha. he was joking i bet. why would he risk to lose fans and say that. but hey anything is possible with conor. thats what i love.

He was drunk.

Overheard at the Omaha show while waiting in line:

"It's a Bright Eyes show, they'll pass out vodka at the door."

Laughed my ass off.

[Greg Dona]

yea, while id like to read all of these, i simply dont have the patience. im going to take for granted that lots of people have been pissed, but that even more have supported him. id just like mr oberst to really visit texas. maybe he has, but im also taking for granted that hes just passed through on tours. texas has many great cities like dallas, austin, houston, san antonio, etc, and not all of them meet the hick-ass texan mold. i realize that this statement may be long overdue, but it still is somewhat offensive. wicked burn mr oberst, but i just dont think you really understand what youre talking about.

[Ambien]

here they went

It's funny how within a "big page" post there's always about 20 of these typesthat make it that much bigger. I don't give a shit or anything.

yea, while id like to read all of these, i simply dont have the patience. im going to take for granted that lots of people have been pissed, but that even more have supported him. id just like mr oberst to really visit texas. maybe he has, but im also taking for granted that hes just passed through on tours. texas has many great cities like dallas, austin, houston, san antonio, etc, and not all of them meet the hick-ass texan mold. i realize that this statement may be long overdue, but it still is somewhat offensive. wicked burn mr oberst, but i just dont think you really understand what youre talking about.

If indeed Oberst was referring to all of Texas then I'm sure he is in fact stereotyping around the way Mr. Bush is which is lame, but in fact...I believe...when he refers to Texas he is referring to Mr. Bush. I don't like Texas personally and wouldn't want to live there (from the few times I've been there) but no place is perfect and I'm sure if we took the time we could all find plenty of good things about basically anything.

[arrowheart]

Just got home from the LA show. He kept fairly quiet, so either he learned a lesson, was less drunk, or less angry...

[Kelley Nicole]

Just got home from the LA show. He kept fairly quiet, so either he learned a lesson, was less drunk, or less angry...
He usually is quiet though, it just depends on his mood. It doesn't mean he learned his lesson.

[ItalianPlaya42]

I just want to say that I seriously love Bright Eyes. Conor Oberst is clearly a lyrical genius, and I think anyone with a general sense of good music would agree. His comments were pretty harsh to say the least, but I mean we have to get over it. I've read a number of posts, but has anyone from that Texas show posted on this thread? I'm anxious to hear their point of view, and the points of view from the other Texans that attended the show that night. I'm a Bush fan, and you guys can ridicule me and make fun of me all you want. But anyways, I don't agree with many of Conor's beliefs, but despite my differences with him I have a lot of respect for him and what he does. I don't understand why some fans would turn away from him because of a couple stereotypical jokes. You just have to laugh at it and let it go. I'm sure Conor doesn't hate Texas as much as he said he did. I'm pretty positive that he doesn't not like our president very much and decided to take a stab at his state while he was in the area. It had nothing to do with the people there, it was just an opportunity to bash Bush. Conor's political views are expressed throughout his music, and you have to expect he is going to speak a little bit of his mind between his songs. That's what he is about. I could write for days about Bright Eyes and Conor Oberst, but I think I've said enough. I still would really like to see some of the Texans who witnessed this incident first hand speak up. I'm interested to know how they saw the entire situation. Alright you kids, I'm out of here.

[ItalianPlaya42]

I'm pretty positive that he doesn't not like our president very much...
Excuse that double-negative.

[Nightingale00]

i really like him and I hope all the media hype he's getting doesn't get to his head because hes got a really bright future going for him. and I hope he doesn't ruin it.