Delete your MySpace

[mewithoutyou]

I just wanted to encourage people who are currently on MySpace to delete their accounts. If there are people on there who are your friends get their phone numbers and give them a call. Maybe you can set up a date to hang out. If there are people you know from out of state, get their e-mail or home address and write them a letter. I gaurentee you talking to someone over the phone, in person, or via penpals is 100% more fun and rewarding then MySpace. Also you'll be pruning out all of your fake friends who choose to restrict their freindship with you to a computer screen. Because there are those out there. They add you as a friend and leave you comments to make themselves feel better. I find it kind of insulting.

I hope you can sort of somewhat get what I am saying. MySpace is a fake reality. It's not real. By deleting your accounts and transferring your friendships into the real world, you will be totally be opening up new avenues and opportunities for yourselves. Something as small as that can improve the quality of your life and give you more incentive to not spend the day in your room on the computer.

Instead of being on a computer reading about how John likes to skydive or draw, or how Susan likes Fugazi, go out and do these things with them. Be active. It'll strengthen your friendships and give you a lot fonder memories than sitting in your room looking into a computer screen.

[jaimej]

i get your point but why do you care? you're saying this to alot of people whom you've never met in person on an internet forum..... pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

[mewithoutyou]

i get your point but why do you care? you're saying this to alot of people whom you've never met in person on an internet forum..... pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

I am not trying to befriend anyone, or have them add me as a friend. I am offering some advice that I think people would benefit from. Also I am not targeting any particular user, and am speaking to a message board community as a whole. There is no phone number I can call to personally speak to all the members on this forum.

I respect your comment. But I don't find my post hypocritical.

[mewithoutyou]

I have long hair and I like to twirl it.

You are a wild, untamed animal.

[Adrian Villagomez]

Insightful post, mewithoutyou. Too many people are internet addicts. I know, because I used to be. Now I'm a Halo addict. Motherfucking technology has me by the balls.

[jaimej]

I am not trying to befriend anyone, or have them add me as a friend. I am offering some advice that I think people would benefit from. Also I am not targeting any particular user, and am speaking to a message board community as a whole. There is no phone number I can call to personally speak to all the members on this forum.

I respect your comment. But I don't find my post hypocritical.

understandable. though some people dont use myspace to meet people or try and find internet friends or whatever. but yeah, i see your point. i just dont think you're speaking to the right audience.

[mewithoutyou]

understandable. though some people dont use myspace to meet people or try and find internet friends or whatever. but yeah, i see your point. i just dont think you're speaking to the right audience.

I agree 100%. MySpace can be good for networking, like if you had a band or a business. If that is what you use MySpace for than I see no problem.

[Jim Morgan]

myspace has done nothing but help the growth of my band.

i like it.

[mewithoutyou]

myspace has done nothing but help the growth of my band.

i like it.

I agree that bands work better on MySpace because, like this message board, they are not speaking to a particular individual but addressing an internet community as a whole. There is no illusion of friendship that is being promoted & instead of wasting time reading about life, rather than living it, people are attaining a valid resource in your music. I agree whole heartedly with your statement and am glad your band has benefitted from a proper use of MySpace.

[Andy]

I just wanted to encourage people who are currently on MySpace to delete their accounts. If there are people on there who are your friends get their phone numbers and give them a call. Maybe you can set up a date to hang out. If there are people you know from out of state, get their e-mail or home address and write them a letter. I gaurentee you talking to someone over the phone, in person, or via penpals is 100% more fun and rewarding then MySpace. Also you'll be pruning out all of your fake friends who choose to restrict their freindship with you to a computer screen. Because there are those out there. They add you as a friend and leave you comments to make themselves feel better. I find it kind of insulting.

I hope you can sort of somewhat get what I am saying. MySpace is a fake reality. It's not real. By deleting your accounts and transferring your friendships into the real world, you will be totally be opening up new avenues and opportunities for yourselves. Something as small as that can improve the quality of your life and give you more incentive to not spend the day in your room on the computer.

Instead of being on a computer reading about how John likes to skydive or draw, or how Susan likes Fugazi, go out and do these things with them. Be active. It'll strengthen your friendships and give you a lot fonder memories than sitting in your room looking into a computer screen.


I LOVE YOU!

[punkerx99]

Most of my friends on myspace are my friends in real life, and the people I don't know, I don't talk to anyway.

[Tanooki Suit]

Great, another pseudo-intellectual. And this one chooses to display his love of shitty music right there in his username.

[punklet2101]

I know what you're saying, and I agree to an extent, but what if you live halfway across the world from them?

I'll just jump in a plane and visit every friend i've made online...

[mewithoutyou]

Most of my friends on myspace are my friends in real life, and the people I don't know, I don't talk to anyway.

Awesome. That's the way it's supposed to be.

[mewithoutyou]

Great, another pseudo-intellectual. And this one chooses to display his love of shitty music right there in his username.

You managed to draw attention to 2 stereotypes with one sentence. That's admirable.

[mewithoutyou]

I know what you're saying, and I agree to an extent, but what if you live halfway across the world from them?

I'll just jump in a plane and visit every friend i've made online...

Ask them for their address and be their pen pal. It's actually pretty fun.

Or just get their e-mail or AIM screen name.

[punkpixie]

Ask them for their address and be their pen pal. It's actually pretty fun.

Or just get their e-mail or AIM screen name.

Ok that doesn't make sense: you can't talk to them on myspace but you can use e-mail and AIM. That's practically the same thing if you ask me....

[jaimej]

Ask them for their address and be their pen pal. It's actually pretty fun.

Or just get their e-mail or AIM screen name.

whats the difference between having an email address/screenname or being on myspace? i've come across alot of old friends that i otherwise probably wouldnt have crossed paths with on it. plus its awesome for networking. i just dont see why you hate this specific site so much. its not going to kill anyone.

[punkpixie]

Exactly.

This guy is a fucking moron.

Stop trying to seem cool. You aren't. No one cares what you are "too cool for." It's okay that you weigh 400 pounds and don't want everyone to see.

Hahahahaha! Well said TJ.

[jaimej]

Exactly.

This guy is a fucking moron.

Stop trying to seem cool. You aren't. No one cares what you are "too cool for." It's okay that you weigh 400 pounds and don't want everyone to see.

hahaha true. i bet hes just pissed he cant fit into girl pants heh.

[Kif]

I've never seen the point in having a Myspace. What does it exactly accomplish? Everyone on there is the same, whether it be their jet black hair, music tastes or the fact that nearly everyone on there has Donnie Darko and Napolean Dynamite listed as 1 of their favourite films

[mewithoutyou]

Actually, you posting on here is hypcritical. This is fake. Why don't you get our numbers?

I mean seriously, just because it's fake doesn't mean we can't enjoy it. It's a way of meeting new people.

Stop being a little bitch. No one cares what you think.

I feel I did a good job of presenting my opinion. It is helpful advice to motivate people to strengthen real life relationships, rather than substituting them with online ones. Something that using MySpace promotes.

I don't get your numbers because I was not addressing any one user, but the community as a whole. There is no community phone number.

It is true that "just becuase it's fake doesn't mean we can't enjoy it". I personally think MySpace is extremely enjoyable. But I think calling your friends and interacting with them in real life is a lot more enjoyable.

"It's a way to meet new people." I completely agree. You can meet people there, and then interact with them either by phone, in person or by mail (depending on their location).

I don't think I am bitching at all. I haven't attacked anyone or called them names. If no one cares what I think, that is beyond my control and I accept that.

To reiterate my original point, deleting your MySpace account will force you to call friends you normally wouldn't, hangout with friends you normally wouldn't, and purge yourself of friends who have no intention of interacting with you outside the computer. It also means you will be out having fun, instead of being at home reading about it.

[mewithoutyou]

Ok that doesn't make sense: you can't talk to them on myspace but you can use e-mail and AIM. That's practically the same thing if you ask me....

This is for people who live out of state or long distance. People you can't call (without high phone bills) or drive to their house.

[Kif]

It's unethical to tell people that what they are doing is wrong. People choose to have Myspace accounts. I know quite a few people with Myspace accounts at school, who are good friends and who just plain kick ass. Doesn't make them "fake".

Seriously, I couldn't care less about the people with Myspace accounts because I don't have one. Why should you be an exception?

[mewithoutyou]

whats the difference between having an email address/screenname or being on myspace? i've come across alot of old friends that i otherwise probably wouldnt have crossed paths with on it. plus its awesome for networking. i just dont see why you hate this specific site so much. its not going to kill anyone.

MySpace is a great tool for networking. It has it's uses. The fellow who posted earlier talked about how it helped his band. I think you have misunderstood what my post is about.

[Mercy Medical]

There's nothing wrong with being a Myspace user, except for those who spend countless hours and have a ridiculous number of friends that they don't even know.

My Myspace friends are mostly people from AP or people I know or have known in real life and bands.

[punkpixie]

There's nothing wrong with being a Myspace user, except for those who spend countless hours and have a ridiculous number of friends that they don't even know.

My Myspace friends are mostly people from AP or people I know or have known in real life and bands.

Same here.

[mewithoutyou]

It's unethical to tell people that what they are doing is wrong. People choose to have Myspace accounts. I know quite a few people with Myspace accounts at school, who are good friends and who just plain kick ass. Doesn't make them "fake".

Seriously, I couldn't care less about the people with Myspace accounts because I don't have one. Why should you be an exception?

Ok. Let me put it briefly. I am not attacking MySpace or MySpace users. I am giving the personal advice that for some people there is a lot to gain from deleting your account.

People you actually want to stay in contact with, you can call. You might even hang out with someone you normally wouldn't have, and have a great time. If they live out of state, you can chat with them on AIM or get their address and be their pen pal. It's not very hard at all. And it is all more rewarding and fun then being on a computer.

The only people I am calling "fake" are those who want to comment on your profile and send you messages, but have no inentions of actually speaking to you or hanging out with you. By deleting your account, you are deleting these people from your life as well.

[punkpixie]

I understand your viewpoint, but it doesn't change my opinion. I'm not worried by how I use myspace, I don't actually spend that much time there. I have friends outside the internet who I value dearly, but I also like talking to people over the internet that I've met on here.

[jaimej]

Ok. Let me put it briefly. I am not attacking MySpace or MySpace users. I am giving the personal advice that for some people there is a lot to gain from deleting your account.

People you actually want to stay in contact with, you can call. You might even hang out with someone you normally wouldn't have, and have a great time. If they live out of state, you can chat with them on AIM or get their address and be their pen pal. It's not very hard at all. And it is all more rewarding and fun then being on a computer.

The only people I am calling "fake" are those who want to comment on your profile and send you messages, but have no inentions of actually speaking to you or hanging out with you. By deleting your account, you are deleting these people from your life as well.
yes you do have a valid point, but you're spending all this time saying this to a bunch of people on an internet forum. which has pretty much the same purpose. its hypocritical because you're telling us that we could be doing much more productive things like going out and actually meeting people. maybe you should go out and interact with people instead of spending your time on this site, preaching this to all of us. who are, essentially, a bunch of people who you'll never meet in real life, and really don't care.

[punklet2101]

I understand your viewpoint, but it doesn't change my opinion. I'm not worried by how I use myspace, I don't actually spend that much time there. I have friends outside the internet who I value dearly, but I also like talking to people over the internet that I've met on here.
Exactly.

[mewithoutyou]

There's nothing wrong with being a Myspace user, except for those who spend countless hours and have a ridiculous number of friends that they don't even know.

My Myspace friends are mostly people from AP or people I know or have known in real life and bands.

Thank you. I am glad you posted because what you said is perfect.

"There's nothing wrong with being a Myspace user, except for those who spend countless hours and have a ridiculous number of friends that they don't even know." - You are totally 100% right. Unfortunately, what you just described is almost every user on MySpace.

[punklet2101]

Ask them for their address and be their pen pal. It's actually pretty fun.

Or just get their e-mail or AIM screen name.
I do have a lot of them on AIM.

[punkpixie]

I do have a lot of them on AIM.

'Cept me, because I had to get rid of AIM. Gawddamn!

[punklet2101]

'Cept me, because I had to get rid of AIM. Gawddamn!
That's a real shame!

But I still message you and stuff, so we're cool.

[mewithoutyou]

I understand your viewpoint, but it doesn't change my opinion. I'm not worried by how I use myspace, I don't actually spend that much time there. I have friends outside the internet who I value dearly, but I also like talking to people over the internet that I've met on here.

I actually admire that. You have described yourself as someone who is content and in control of your online and real life friendships. I am in no way personally attacking you or forcing you to delete your MySpace.

My post was made to the community in general as I feel some people would actually view what I said as beneficial to their situation. My advice does not apply to your situation.

I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you in a smart, respectful way. Thank you.

[Mercy Medical]

Thank you. I am glad you posted because what you said is perfect.

"There's nothing wrong with being a Myspace user, except for those who spend countless hours and have a ridiculous number of friends that they don't even know." - You are totally 100% right. Unfortunately, what you just described is almost every user on MySpace.
Not necessarily. I feel like that's every 15 or 16 year old girl that's on there.

I know that most of the people here on AP don't necessarily have tons of friends on Myspace and most of our friends are from AP. I don't really see that much wrong with Myspace. I mean, it's something to do when you're bored. Plus there's always funny profiles to check out while you're on there.

[punkpixie]

That's a real shame!

But I still message you and stuff, so we're cool.

Yup! This is a prime example, I wouldn't ever be able to talk to you if it weren't for the internet.

[Mercy Medical]

I don't get why people are so in an uproar about having "internet" friends. I don't think it's that big of a deal. I'd actually like to meet some of you people if I ever got the chance.

I guess it's just those people who do nothing other than sit on the internet all day that should be in shame. I know I'm on AP a lot, but I still have school, soccer and work that keeps me pretty damn busy in my real life.

[mewithoutyou]

yes you do have a valid point, but you're spending all this time saying this to a bunch of people on an internet forum. which has pretty much the same purpose. its hypocritical because you're telling us that we could be doing much more productive things like going out and actually meeting people. maybe you should go out and interact with people instead of spending your time on this site, preaching this to all of us. who are, essentially, a bunch of people who you'll never meet in real life, and really don't care.

This is who my post is talking to: People who would think they would benefit from deleting their MySpace. If you do not think you will benefit from deleting yourself from MySpace, then simply do not.

The fact that I list the possible rewards and benefits is not to belittle others or attack anyone personally. It is to offer insight.

[punklet2101]

I don't get why people are so in an uproar about having "internet" friends. I don't think it's that big of a deal. I'd actually like to meet some of you people if I ever got the chance.

I guess it's just those people who do nothing other than sit on the internet all day that should be in shame. I know I'm on AP a lot, but I still have school, soccer and work that keeps me pretty damn busy in my real life.
Well this is a good example, I know you on AP and on AIM, and i'm coming to visit you in your summer...

[punklet2101]

Yup! This is a prime example, I wouldn't ever be able to talk to you if it weren't for the internet.
Yeha! :)

[punkpixie]

I don't get why people are so in an uproar about having "internet" friends. I don't think it's that big of a deal. I'd actually like to meet some of you people if I ever got the chance.

I guess it's just those people who do nothing other than sit on the internet all day that should be in shame. I know I'm on AP a lot, but I still have school, soccer and work that keeps me pretty damn busy in my real life.

That so true. I spent a lot of time on here too, but not to the point where it invades my real life. This is my outlet for most of my music discussion because nearly all the people on here are intelligent and know what they're talking about.

[mewithoutyou]

Not necessarily. I feel like that's every 15 or 16 year old girl that's on there.

I know that most of the people here on AP don't necessarily have tons of friends on Myspace and most of our friends are from AP. I don't really see that much wrong with Myspace. I mean, it's something to do when you're bored. Plus there's always funny profiles to check out while you're on there.


I agree with you completely.

[punklet2101]

That so true. I spent a lot of time on here too, but not to the point where it invades my real life. This is my outlet for most of my music discussion because nearly all the people on here are intelligent and know what they're talking about.
For sure. AP is great for that. I'm on the internet a lot, but I have very good friends in real life that I do spend time with, and then there's work as well. I'm at home more than out but that's because of my health. If I could i'd be out with my real life friends a lot more.

[mewithoutyou]

I don't get why people are so in an uproar about having "internet" friends. I don't think it's that big of a deal. I'd actually like to meet some of you people if I ever got the chance.

I guess it's just those people who do nothing other than sit on the internet all day that should be in shame. I know I'm on AP a lot, but I still have school, soccer and work that keeps me pretty damn busy in my real life.

It's totally alright to have internet friends. But some people might not want them and feel they could have a lot more fun if they interacted with them in person.

[punkpixie]

For sure. AP is great for that. I'm on the internet a lot, but I have very good friends in real life that I do spend time with, and then there's work as well. I'm at home more than out but that's because of my health. If I could i'd be out with my real life friends a lot more.

That's exactly the same as me. I think we were separated at birth or something! haha

[punklet2101]

This is a long article, I don't know if anyone's interested to read it but I really liked it and thought it related - it's something Josh from The Chariot posted on their mp3 page.

Here it is:

"I was told something the other day that burned inside my bones. Someone said this phrase, "The youth is wasted on our young." At first I was outraged. I wanted to fight back and defend my generation. I wanted to prove how ignorant that statement was. But before the words could escape my lips, I was tormented with how true that statement is. For those who do not understand: what that means is this.... Youth: meaning the point of our lives when we are the most energetic and the most healthy and the most full of passion, is being wasted on our young people, meaning you and me. Our generation. I could not sleep that night because of how disgusted I was. Not, just because somone said it, but mainly because I could not prove it wrong. The statement, unfortunately, is true for the most part. Here we are, with the most energy that we will ever have and absolute health and few to no bills to pay, and what does the average young person do with all of that................sits around and watches tv, or plays on some technological waste of time, or worse yet, they waste all of that energy and zeal on drugs or alcohol, Items that were created for no other reason than to alter your state of mind. Why would anyone want their state of mind to be altered? What has happened to our world that would make someone want to alter his or her existance while we are at our prime age in life and prime strength. To complete the meaning of this old familier phrase it is also stating that adults; like people that are old and older, could better use this "youthfullness" because they have lived long enough to realize that we are all going to die someday, and as a matter of fact, that someday, is soon, and these elders are saying that they would actually do something useful with this, "youthfullness." So we ask ourselves, "Why would they use it so much more passionately and with so much more greatfulness than us young folks?" Well that is easy, because through thier years on this earth they have come to learn that most everything is trivial. And life, as far as on this earth, is short. So they are saying that if they had it to do over they would use thier energy to the fullest extent and there passions would be spent on items that actually mattered and there lives would be much fuller and richer lives. What they are also saying is that, they too, have wasted there youthfullness. Because, they are saying that only now, have they realized that life is so short and most of it is wasted on trivial things or technological advances that do nothing but keep us lazy and dependent on the technology itself. So I say," no!" I am not going to be a part of that stupid phrase. I am still young. I still have energy and passions and zeal and I still have my life. I will not sit back and watch it all go while I stare at a box with moving pixels. I will not be another wasted youth and grow up only to realize that I should have followed my dreams more or always asking, "what if this or what if that." I will not. Isn't that why we are here on earth, to learn from other people's mistakes so that as each generation grows we grow wiser and wiser still. What happened to that? Where are the people who actually care anymore? Is there anyone that cares enough to actually try to be different? Does anyone actually NOT want to be exacly like everyone else? I know that it is easy to just copycat every other person in the world. But isn't there anybody who cares? Am I the only one who cares? Am I the only one that sees this downward spiral going on? I think not. I think that there are many more people that have thought about such things. But I also think far too many people just give up............ on thier dreams.................. on thier goals............on thier life. I know way too many people who have not seen the ocean. Do not die having never seen the ocean. Do not wait until you are stuck in the cycle of life and work and sleep, to realize that maybe you should have gone to see the ocean, or any other form of God's amazing works. Don't exit this earth asking, "what if this dream could have came true." You don't ever have to think, 'what if I would have only done ___________?" You never have to think that because we still have today. We have right now. Turn dreams into goals and get them accomplished. Or at least try. I apologize for the length of this passage, but I can not get that out of my head. I want to also apologize to my wife and my band because they had to hear me go on about this topic for hours. I love you all. And I want to leave you with this, so that maybe it will click and it will change your life as much as it has changed mine.

"The youth is waisted on our young"

Josh@thechariot.com

[punklet2101]

That's exactly the same as me. I think we were separated at birth or something! haha
Haha I know! :)

[Love As Arson]

You're presupposing your perception of what is real, is, in fact, what is truly real. For me, talking on the phone is real, however, someone else may find AIM real. Until we can define what is truly real, all you've done is spout meaningless rhetoric.

[punkpixie]

That article is great, I'm gonna e-mail him about it. I feel all motivated now!

[punklet2101]

You're presupposing your perception of what is real, is, in fact, what is truly real. For me, talking on the phone is real, however, someone else may find AIM real. Until we can define what is truly real, all you've done is spout meaningless rhetoric.
This is true...

[mewithoutyou]

I know I'd rather hang out with my friend at the park, then talk to him on a computer. That is the basis behind the advice I am giving.

If you would rather interact with people in person, do it. Deleting your MySpace will help you do that.

If you'd like to spend less time on the computer as well, deleting your MySpace will help you do that.

If you feel cool with internet friends and don't mind the amount of time you are online that is totally cool. I am with you. At no time was I attacking or judging the people who feel this way.

FACT: I can't force you to do anything!
FACT: I never tried to!
FACT: I simply offered advice to people who were willing to listen and thought it would benefit them.

If you don't think my advice benefits you that is ok. It does not mean you are a bad person.

[punklet2101]

That article is great, I'm gonna e-mail him about it. I feel all motivated now!
Yeah, I thought it was great too.

[Love As Arson]

This is a long article, I don't know if anyone's interested to read it but I really liked it and thought it related - it's something Josh from The Chariot posted on their mp3 page.

Here it is:

"I was told something the other day that burned inside my bones. Someone said this phrase, "The youth is wasted on our young." At first I was outraged. I wanted to fight back and defend my generation. I wanted to prove how ignorant that statement was. But before the words could escape my lips, I was tormented with how true that statement is. For those who do not understand: what that means is this.... Youth: meaning the point of our lives when we are the most energetic and the most healthy and the most full of passion, is being wasted on our young people, meaning you and me. Our generation. I could not sleep that night because of how disgusted I was. Not, just because somone said it, but mainly because I could not prove it wrong. The statement, unfortunately, is true for the most part. Here we are, with the most energy that we will ever have and absolute health and few to no bills to pay, and what does the average young person do with all of that................sits around and watches tv, or plays on some technological waste of time, or worse yet, they waste all of that energy and zeal on drugs or alcohol, Items that were created for no other reason than to alter your state of mind. Why would anyone want their state of mind to be altered? What has happened to our world that would make someone want to alter his or her existance while we are at our prime age in life and prime strength. To complete the meaning of this old familier phrase it is also stating that adults; like people that are old and older, could better use this "youthfullness" because they have lived long enough to realize that we are all going to die someday, and as a matter of fact, that someday, is soon, and these elders are saying that they would actually do something useful with this, "youthfullness." So we ask ourselves, "Why would they use it so much more passionately and with so much more greatfulness than us young folks?" Well that is easy, because through thier years on this earth they have come to learn that most everything is trivial. And life, as far as on this earth, is short. So they are saying that if they had it to do over they would use thier energy to the fullest extent and there passions would be spent on items that actually mattered and there lives would be much fuller and richer lives. What they are also saying is that, they too, have wasted there youthfullness. Because, they are saying that only now, have they realized that life is so short and most of it is wasted on trivial things or technological advances that do nothing but keep us lazy and dependent on the technology itself. So I say," no!" I am not going to be a part of that stupid phrase. I am still young. I still have energy and passions and zeal and I still have my life. I will not sit back and watch it all go while I stare at a box with moving pixels. I will not be another wasted youth and grow up only to realize that I should have followed my dreams more or always asking, "what if this or what if that." I will not. Isn't that why we are here on earth, to learn from other people's mistakes so that as each generation grows we grow wiser and wiser still. What happened to that? Where are the people who actually care anymore? Is there anyone that cares enough to actually try to be different? Does anyone actually NOT want to be exacly like everyone else? I know that it is easy to just copycat every other person in the world. But isn't there anybody who cares? Am I the only one who cares? Am I the only one that sees this downward spiral going on? I think not. I think that there are many more people that have thought about such things. But I also think far too many people just give up............ on thier dreams.................. on thier goals............on thier life. I know way too many people who have not seen the ocean. Do not die having never seen the ocean. Do not wait until you are stuck in the cycle of life and work and sleep, to realize that maybe you should have gone to see the ocean, or any other form of God's amazing works. Don't exit this earth asking, "what if this dream could have came true." You don't ever have to think, 'what if I would have only done ___________?" You never have to think that because we still have today. We have right now. Turn dreams into goals and get them accomplished. Or at least try. I apologize for the length of this passage, but I can not get that out of my head. I want to also apologize to my wife and my band because they had to hear me go on about this topic for hours. I love you all. And I want to leave you with this, so that maybe it will click and it will change your life as much as it has changed mine.

"The youth is waisted on our young"

Josh@thechariot.com
That was self-aggrandizing garbage.

[punklet2101]

To each his own.

[Love As Arson]

I know I'd rather hang out with my friend at the park, then talk to him on a computer. That is the basis behind the advice I am giving.

If you would rather interact with people in person, do it. Deleting your MySpace will help you do that.

If you'd like to spend less time on the computer as well, deleting your MySpace will help you do that.

If you feel cool with internet friends and don't mind the amount of time you are online that is totally cool. I am with you. At no time was I attacking or judging the people who feel this way.

FACT: I can't force you to do anything!
FACT: I never tried to!
FACT: I simply offered advice to people who were willing to listen and thought it would benefit them.

If you don't think my advice benefits you that is ok. It does not mean you are a bad person.
My point is that it is all relative. No absolute statement can be made about Myspace users, as wasting their time, because that'd be a generalization, which is flawed.

[jaimej]

My point is that it is all relative. No absolute statement can be made about Myspace users, as wasting their time, because that'd be a generalization, which is flawed.

i agree x 95

[mewithoutyou]

This is a long article, I don't know if anyone's interested to read it but I really liked it and thought it related - it's something Josh from The Chariot posted on their mp3 page.

Here it is:

"I was told something the other day that burned inside my bones. Someone said this phrase, "The youth is wasted on our young." At first I was outraged. I wanted to fight back and defend my generation. I wanted to prove how ignorant that statement was. But before the words could escape my lips, I was tormented with how true that statement is. For those who do not understand: what that means is this.... Youth: meaning the point of our lives when we are the most energetic and the most healthy and the most full of passion, is being wasted on our young people, meaning you and me. Our generation. I could not sleep that night because of how disgusted I was. Not, just because somone said it, but mainly because I could not prove it wrong. The statement, unfortunately, is true for the most part. Here we are, with the most energy that we will ever have and absolute health and few to no bills to pay, and what does the average young person do with all of that................sits around and watches tv, or plays on some technological waste of time, or worse yet, they waste all of that energy and zeal on drugs or alcohol, Items that were created for no other reason than to alter your state of mind. Why would anyone want their state of mind to be altered? What has happened to our world that would make someone want to alter his or her existance while we are at our prime age in life and prime strength. To complete the meaning of this old familier phrase it is also stating that adults; like people that are old and older, could better use this "youthfullness" because they have lived long enough to realize that we are all going to die someday, and as a matter of fact, that someday, is soon, and these elders are saying that they would actually do something useful with this, "youthfullness." So we ask ourselves, "Why would they use it so much more passionately and with so much more greatfulness than us young folks?" Well that is easy, because through thier years on this earth they have come to learn that most everything is trivial. And life, as far as on this earth, is short. So they are saying that if they had it to do over they would use thier energy to the fullest extent and there passions would be spent on items that actually mattered and there lives would be much fuller and richer lives. What they are also saying is that, they too, have wasted there youthfullness. Because, they are saying that only now, have they realized that life is so short and most of it is wasted on trivial things or technological advances that do nothing but keep us lazy and dependent on the technology itself. So I say," no!" I am not going to be a part of that stupid phrase. I am still young. I still have energy and passions and zeal and I still have my life. I will not sit back and watch it all go while I stare at a box with moving pixels. I will not be another wasted youth and grow up only to realize that I should have followed my dreams more or always asking, "what if this or what if that." I will not. Isn't that why we are here on earth, to learn from other people's mistakes so that as each generation grows we grow wiser and wiser still. What happened to that? Where are the people who actually care anymore? Is there anyone that cares enough to actually try to be different? Does anyone actually NOT want to be exacly like everyone else? I know that it is easy to just copycat every other person in the world. But isn't there anybody who cares? Am I the only one who cares? Am I the only one that sees this downward spiral going on? I think not. I think that there are many more people that have thought about such things. But I also think far too many people just give up............ on thier dreams.................. on thier goals............on thier life. I know way too many people who have not seen the ocean. Do not die having never seen the ocean. Do not wait until you are stuck in the cycle of life and work and sleep, to realize that maybe you should have gone to see the ocean, or any other form of God's amazing works. Don't exit this earth asking, "what if this dream could have came true." You don't ever have to think, 'what if I would have only done ___________?" You never have to think that because we still have today. We have right now. Turn dreams into goals and get them accomplished. Or at least try. I apologize for the length of this passage, but I can not get that out of my head. I want to also apologize to my wife and my band because they had to hear me go on about this topic for hours. I love you all. And I want to leave you with this, so that maybe it will click and it will change your life as much as it has changed mine.

"The youth is waisted on our young"

Josh@thechariot.com


I think what this guy said is great.

[Love As Arson]

To each his own.
It reminded me of those after school promos, which I always found more condescending than helpful.

[mewithoutyou]

My point is that it is all relative. No absolute statement can be made about Myspace users, as wasting their time, because that'd be a generalization, which is flawed.

Look at my first post.

I benifitted greatly from deleting MySpace. I feel great about it. I made a post talking about the benefits one can have from also doing it. The End.

But people felt offended by me saying that.

[punklet2101]

It reminded me of those after school promos, which I always found more condescending than helpful.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I just liked it because he had (what I think are) some good points, maybe just a better attitude to life or something. Mostly because i've wasted an incredible amount of time on those things - computers, television etc.. like i'm sure a lot of us have.

[jaimej]

Look at my first post.

I benifitted greatly from deleting MySpace. I feel great about it. I made a post talking about the benefits one can have from also doing it. The End.

But people felt offended by me saying that.
don't get me wrong i wasnt offended. i'm glad you benefitted from it. but my point was that you wanted to spend more time outside interacting with "real" friends, when you're spending your time on an internet forum telling us why you deleted it. thats all im saying.

[punkpixie]

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I just liked it because he had (what I think are) some good points, maybe just a better attitude to life or something. Mostly because i've wasted an incredible amount of time on those things - computers, television etc.. like i'm sure a lot of us have.

I know I have.

[punklet2101]

I know I have.
Surely. It makes me just cringe to picture someone counting up the hours i've been online or watched TV. It's like someone asking "What did you do the past 5 years?" and the majority of it being this...

[Love As Arson]

Look at my first post.

I benifitted greatly from deleting MySpace. I feel great about it. I made a post talking about the benefits one can have from also doing it. The End.

But people felt offended by me saying that.
I don't think people are offended. They just see it as a flawed analysis based on generalizations of those who use Myspace.

[punkpixie]

That's really scary actually. This thread got good all of a sudden...(that was for Helen, I'm too slow!)

[punklet2101]

I don't think people are offended. They just see it as a flawed analysis based on generalizations of those who use Myspace.
Yeah. Deleting yourself from MySpace may have been a great benefit for one person, but maybe not so much for someone else. I wasn't offended at all..

[mewithoutyou]

don't get me wrong i wasnt offended. i'm glad you benefitted from it. but my point was that you wanted to spend more time outside interacting with "real" friends, when you're spending your time on an internet forum telling us why you deleted it. thats all im saying.

Hey my friends are all asleep.

And I finally realized that some people just don't agree with me. And that is ok.

My initial post was helpful advice for people who were willing to take it.

If you don't want it, it's ok.

I apologize for responding to the initial insults that were heaved my way. It snowballed into a huge debate.

[punklet2101]

That's really scary actually. This thread got good all of a sudden...(that was for Helen, I'm too slow!)
Haha no worries.

[punkpixie]

Hey my friends are all asleep.

And I finally realized that some people just don't agree with me. And that is ok.

My initial post was helpful advice for people who were willing to take it.

If you don't want it, it's ok.

I apologize for responding to the initial insults that were heaved my way. It snowballed into a huge debate.

It's actually an interesting debate though, so it's OK.

[mewithoutyou]

I don't think people are offended. They just see it as a flawed analysis based on generalizations of those who use Myspace.

The only reason my first post said "people who are on MySpace" is because you can't delete yourself from something you're not on. I didn't say "everyone on MySpace". I see how it can be confused.

[punklet2101]

Hey my friends are all asleep.

And I finally realized that some people just don't agree with me. And that is ok.

My initial post was helpful advice for people who were willing to take it.

If you don't want it, it's ok.

I apologize for responding to the initial insults that were heaved my way. It snowballed into a huge debate.
No, thank you for posting this. I think it's been a good thing to discuss...

[(FallFrom)Grace]

it seems to me that you could apply a lot of your comments to anything in life... like alcohol, or music, or watching tv. isnt it more about those individuals who do get addicted to things like myspace, rather than the website as a principle? if someone came up to me in the pub and started preaching at me for having a beer, i'd be pretty pissed off. and to me these things are pretty similar. for a lot of people, myspace is just about emailing friends, checking out new bands and talking to random strangers on the internet. its the people who get addicted to it that are the ones who should be concerned, not those who, like going for a drink, just do it for a bit of fun when theyre bored.
surely this says more about you, that you felt the need to delete your myspace account in order to get your life back or whatever, than it does for the vast majority of users. everything is addictive at the end of the day... and uses up your life, maybe you should be thinking about that rather than some internet site.

[Love As Arson]

The only reason my first post said "people who are on MySpace" is because you can't delete yourself from something you're not on. I didn't say "everyone on MySpace". I see how it can be confused.
That's not what I was talking about. I was speaking of the assumption that everyone on myspace is in the same situation you were in and that getting rid of myspace is a benefit for everyone. Like I said, it is all relative.

[mewithoutyou]

it seems to me that you could apply a lot of your comments to anything in life... like alcohol, or music, or watching tv. isnt it more about those individuals who do get addicted to things like myspace, rather than the website as a principle? if someone came up to me in the pub and started preaching at me for having a beer, i'd be pretty pissed off. and to me these things are pretty similar. for a lot of people, myspace is just about emailing friends, checking out new bands and talking to random strangers on the internet. its the people who get addicted to it that are the ones who should be concerned, not those who, like going for a drink, just do it for a bit of fun when theyre bored.
surely this says more about you, that you felt the need to delete your myspace account in order to get your life back or whatever, than it does for the vast majority of users. everything is addictive at the end of the day... and uses up your life, maybe you should be thinking about that rather than some internet site.

Everything you said was true. Except I wasn't addicted to MySpace. I was tired of people leaving me comments and trying to add me as their friend, and having no intentions of actually being my friend.

[mewithoutyou]

That's not what I was talking about. I was speaking of the assumption that everyone on myspace is in the same situation you were in and that getting rid of myspace is a benefit for everyone. Like I said, it is all relative.

It is all relative. You are right. Some people see more time away from the computer as good, some don't. I was speaking from the perspective of someone who enjoys real life relationships over internet relationships and enjoys as little time online as I can manage. I was hoping that others who shared my views would read it and understand, which i am guessing they did. It seems I am only talking to and dealing with those who didn't share my views.

[Love As Arson]

It is all relative. You are right. Some people see more time away from the computer as good, some don't. I was speaking from the perspective of someone who enjoys real life relationships over internet relationships and enjoys as little time online as I can manage. I was hoping that others who shared my views would read it and understand, which i am guessing they did. It seems I am only talking to and dealing with those who didn't share my views.
Some people aren't like you, they can balance both online and offline relationships without sacrificing one or the other.

[jaimej]

TJ, you are wise beyond your years.

[SkaBum14]

Without MySpace, I'd have to find some other avenue to prey on young boys and girls. Don't take that away from me.

[MBR_Rawks]

I just wanted to encourage people who are currently on MySpace to delete their accounts. If there are people on there who are your friends get their phone numbers and give them a call. Maybe you can set up a date to hang out. If there are people you know from out of state, get their e-mail or home address and write them a letter. I gaurentee you talking to someone over the phone, in person, or via penpals is 100% more fun and rewarding then MySpace. Also you'll be pruning out all of your fake friends who choose to restrict their freindship with you to a computer screen. Because there are those out there. They add you as a friend and leave you comments to make themselves feel better. I find it kind of insulting.

I hope you can sort of somewhat get what I am saying. MySpace is a fake reality. It's not real. By deleting your accounts and transferring your friendships into the real world, you will be totally be opening up new avenues and opportunities for yourselves. Something as small as that can improve the quality of your life and give you more incentive to not spend the day in your room on the computer.

Instead of being on a computer reading about how John likes to skydive or draw, or how Susan likes Fugazi, go out and do these things with them. Be active. It'll strengthen your friendships and give you a lot fonder memories than sitting in your room looking into a computer screen.



Dr. Phil, Is that you?

[jaimej]

Without MySpace, I'd have to find some other avenue to prey on young boys and girls. Don't take that away from me.

hahahaha

[Mercy Medical]

Jesus H. Christ...I hate people who just come to this stupid forum to stir shit up and think they're so fuckin' superior than everyone else.

DEATH, DEATH TO YOU!

[Signals Corrupted]

I just wanted to encourage people who are currently on MySpace to delete their accounts. If there are people on there who are your friends get their phone numbers and give them a call. Maybe you can set up a date to hang out. If there are people you know from out of state, get their e-mail or home address and write them a letter. I gaurentee you talking to someone over the phone, in person, or via penpals is 100% more fun and rewarding then MySpace. Also you'll be pruning out all of your fake friends who choose to restrict their freindship with you to a computer screen. Because there are those out there. They add you as a friend and leave you comments to make themselves feel better. I find it kind of insulting.

I hope you can sort of somewhat get what I am saying. MySpace is a fake reality. It's not real. By deleting your accounts and transferring your friendships into the real world, you will be totally be opening up new avenues and opportunities for yourselves. Something as small as that can improve the quality of your life and give you more incentive to not spend the day in your room on the computer.

Instead of being on a computer reading about how John likes to skydive or draw, or how Susan likes Fugazi, go out and do these things with them. Be active. It'll strengthen your friendships and give you a lot fonder memories than sitting in your room looking into a computer screen.


dude. AMEN. i deleted my myspace a few months ago because of this fake reality. i just put up one last bulletin stating "i will be deleting myspace, if anyone would like to keep staying in touch, here is my screename, and you can give me your number". im glad im not the only one who sees what a plague myspace is.

i have a friend who is SUPER shy, but hes a "pimp" on myspace and he gets all these comments from girls and stuff.. but he will not ever talk to one in person (assuming he remains this shy) and its fucking sad.. i've joked with em that he couldnt talk to a girl in public unless he had a computer in front of him. all this because myspace provides him a fake comfort zone.

also, why do so many people with myspace believe they are models or brilliant photographers? anyways, thanks again to mewithoutyou for recognizing what i thought only i recognized. mewithoutmyspace. woo :lol2: haha

[Pat Marquez]

Thanks mewithoutyou, mine is deleted! Off to make real friend!

[Signals Corrupted]

by the way, i didnt bother to read 6 pages of argument, because i went back one page and i just figured it was more of the same throughout this thread. anyways, not saying this will happen to any of you, but besides what i mentioned in my previous post. a certain female i was affectionately aquainted with was using my friends list to interrogate me about the girls on it. i know this is a unique situation, but this was an example of the unnecessary drama myspace caused.. and yeah thats it. thanks :)

[punkpixie]

Thanks mewithoutyou, mine is deleted! Off to make real friend!

Oh the sarcasm!

[SkaBum14]

I don't have a myspace. If I get one, will all of my real friends stop calling or hanging out with me?

[leika]

Help.... me..... I'm addicted.


</3

All the kids on there I know personally. Well most of them. The other 90% are bands who want me to love them, and then some other nice kids I've never met. I'll aways love my reality more!

[hate to me]

myspace helps me keep in contact with my uni friends you fool

[Paul Tao]

i have a myspace, a facebook, this account, an LJ, all of that, and i still enjoy a very healthy social life. therefore, i don't feel the need to delete it.

[Paul Tao]

although those of you who DO rely solely on your myspace for your social life should probably delete it...that part i'll agree with

[mewithoutyou]

Thanks mewithoutyou, mine is deleted! Off to make real friend!

Oh Pat.

[The Marc]

Oh man....this dude brought this over to Pastepunk's message board....cry out for attention? I think so!!!

http://mods.punkrocks.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4036

[mewithoutyou]

Oh man....this dude brought this over to Pastepunk's message board....cry out for attention? I think so!!!

http://mods.punkrocks.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4036

Actually I brought it here, then I layed the smack down!

[Pat Marquez]

I use Myspace to jock all the bands I feature. I don't look for friends.

[mewithoutyou]

I received a letter in my mailbag this afternoon. Needless to say it has changed my whole view on the subject.

Dear mewithoutyou,

My name is Timmy Jerudo. I am writing to you today because I came across a message on the Absolutepunk.net forums that you wrote. In this message you asked everyone to delete their MySpace account.

You simply do not know Mr. mewithoutyou.

My mother was in a bad car accident last April and she has been unable to talk since the operation. Fortunately, Tom the founder of MySpace read about her story in our local newspaper. He donated $4,500 towards her medical bills and even gave us a brand new computer that we keep in my mom's bedroom. He looks a lot different in person than he does on his user pic. He had a very long beard, and his hair was tied back in a pony tail. He also had a Subway Spicy Italian sandwich tucked into his vest pocket. Anyway, now when my mother needs to tell us something she will leave me a comment on my profile, along with some animated GIFs.

Thanks to MySpace I have my mother back.

I felt insulted, almost to the point of vomiting, when I read the comments you made. MySpace has changed the lives of many Mr. mewithoutyou, and to suggest we should delete our accounts is a slap in the face to all of our veterans who laid down their lives so we could leave comments like "I'd like to see you lift that shirt up another inch." on half naked girls' pictures.

Before you go spitting on my family and our hardships, please take a moment to realize what MySpace is really about: making the world a better place.

May God have mercy,
Timmy

[Mercy Medical]

I received a letter in my mailbag this afternoon. Needless to say it has changed my whole view on the subject.
Seriously, do you honestly have THAT little to do with your life that you've been sitting on the forums all day trying to teach us that Myspace is wrong?

[mewithoutyou]

Seriously, do you honestly have THAT little to do with your life that you've been sitting on the forums all day trying to teach us that Myspace is wrong?

I actually went to the gym for a little while. Did some chest, forearms, biceps, & triceps.

[Louise Heng]

the funny thing is that 90% of my friends on myspace are all people from AP. none of my friends in real life have it and if they do, they never use it.

[mewithoutyou]

the funny thing is that 90% of my friends on myspace are all people from AP. none of my friends in real life have it and if they do, they never use it.

They don't use it because it isn't necessary. It makes you think it is, because you feel you need to check your messages or comments. But just think back to your life before MySpace went up. I'm sure most people got along fine.

[theESCO]

I just wanted to encourage people who are currently on MySpace to delete their accounts. If there are people on there who are your friends get their phone numbers and give them a call. Maybe you can set up a date to hang out. If there are people you know from out of state, get their e-mail or home address and write them a letter. I gaurentee you talking to someone over the phone, in person, or via penpals is 100% more fun and rewarding then MySpace. Also you'll be pruning out all of your fake friends who choose to restrict their freindship with you to a computer screen. Because there are those out there. They add you as a friend and leave you comments to make themselves feel better. I find it kind of insulting.

I hope you can sort of somewhat get what I am saying. MySpace is a fake reality. It's not real. By deleting your accounts and transferring your friendships into the real world, you will be totally be opening up new avenues and opportunities for yourselves. Something as small as that can improve the quality of your life and give you more incentive to not spend the day in your room on the computer.

Instead of being on a computer reading about how John likes to skydive or draw, or how Susan likes Fugazi, go out and do these things with them. Be active. It'll strengthen your friendships and give you a lot fonder memories than sitting in your room looking into a computer screen.


Add me?

[Louise Heng]

They don't use it because it isn't necessary. It makes you think it is, because you feel you need to check your messages or comments. But just think back to your life before MySpace went up. I'm sure most people got along fine.
got along fine? what?

they don't use it because it's not the huge thing it is over here like it is in the US.

[mewithoutyou]

Add me?

Whats your e-mail? I did a user search under theESCO and it came up empty. I even tried putting a space between the the and the ESCO.

[mewithoutyou]

got along fine? what?

they don't use it because it's not the huge thing it is over here like it is in the US.

How do people meet eachother then? Old fashioned in person way??

[Louise Heng]

How do people meet eachother then? Old fashioned in person way??
yeah, what other way do you meet people?

[selftitled85]

i guess this makes me a horrible person cuz not only do i have my own myspace but i have one made for a created person craig whos a pedophile and 37 yrs old.

[selftitled85]

wooo myspace whore.

[SkaBum14]

i guess this makes me a horrible person cuz not only do i have my own myspace but i have one made for a created person craig whos a pedophile and 37 yrs old.

But Craig is adamant about meeting his friends in person, so it's ok.

[mewithoutyou]

yeah, what other way do you meet people?

You can type little words to them or send them an animated GIF that says "DAMN!" then "Girl you'se fiiine!"

Or you can also go with the dancing banana holding a sign. That one always works.

[irthesteve]

I just wanted to encourage people who are currently on MySpace to delete their accounts. If there are people on there who are your friends get their phone numbers and give them a call. Maybe you can set up a date to hang out. If there are people you know from out of state, get their e-mail or home address and write them a letter. I gaurentee you talking to someone over the phone, in person, or via penpals is 100% more fun and rewarding then MySpace. Also you'll be pruning out all of your fake friends who choose to restrict their freindship with you to a computer screen. Because there are those out there. They add you as a friend and leave you comments to make themselves feel better. I find it kind of insulting.

I hope you can sort of somewhat get what I am saying. MySpace is a fake reality. It's not real. By deleting your accounts and transferring your friendships into the real world, you will be totally be opening up new avenues and opportunities for yourselves. Something as small as that can improve the quality of your life and give you more incentive to not spend the day in your room on the computer.

Instead of being on a computer reading about how John likes to skydive or draw, or how Susan likes Fugazi, go out and do these things with them. Be active. It'll strengthen your friendships and give you a lot fonder memories than sitting in your room looking into a computer screen.
all you need to say is "if you are addicted to myspace that you dont talk with your real life friends, deleate it"

[XPaRiSiNfLaMeSX]

You are a fucking jackass. No one is ever going to delete their Myspace and its a retarded reason to.

[XPaRiSiNfLaMeSX]

I guarantee that this thread will reach 200 replies.

[AshesAshes]

I just wanted to encourage people who are currently on MySpace to delete their accounts. If there are people on there who are your friends get their phone numbers and give them a call. Maybe you can set up a date to hang out. If there are people you know from out of state, get their e-mail or home address and write them a letter. I gaurentee you talking to someone over the phone, in person, or via penpals is 100% more fun and rewarding then MySpace. Also you'll be pruning out all of your fake friends who choose to restrict their freindship with you to a computer screen. Because there are those out there. They add you as a friend and leave you comments to make themselves feel better. I find it kind of insulting.

I hope you can sort of somewhat get what I am saying. MySpace is a fake reality. It's not real. By deleting your accounts and transferring your friendships into the real world, you will be totally be opening up new avenues and opportunities for yourselves. Something as small as that can improve the quality of your life and give you more incentive to not spend the day in your room on the computer.

Instead of being on a computer reading about how John likes to skydive or draw, or how Susan likes Fugazi, go out and do these things with them. Be active. It'll strengthen your friendships and give you a lot fonder memories than sitting in your room looking into a computer screen.
i use myspace to meet peope ill message someone for like a few days than arrange a meeting or something if that but im just freinds with my real life freinds on there.

[richter915]

I give props to mewithoutyou...lots o props indeed. He's not trying to preach...he's not shoving dogma down our throats...he's suggesting an alternative to revert back to our pre-myspace days...and I'm sure he's changed his viewpoint on this thing a little as well.

to you mewithoutyou...I give you my thumbs up of approval ;)

[richter915]

I guarantee that this thread will reach 200 replies.
hah...200 posts...you were wrong...







dead wrong...

[XPaRiSiNfLaMeSX]

hah...200 posts...you were wrong...







dead wrong...

Shit! I thought this thread would run longer!

[Signals Corrupted]

AP is a fake reality.

So either, you are a complete fucking moron and I never want to hear you talk again or you spent too much time on sarcasm.


haha well the day ap causes me any sort of problem in real life, i'll delete it. point is, myspace caused me probs with a female, and its keeping my friend locked in his room talking to girls on the internet lol.. anyways, im not a complete fucking moron :(

[richter915]

haha well the day ap causes me any sort of problem in real life, i'll delete it. point is, myspace caused me probs with a female, and its keeping my friend locked in his room talking to girls on the internet lol.. anyways, im not a complete fucking moron :(
hah, I think your friend is who this guy really wanted to direct his opinion towards.