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jos_hua
10/11/08, 03:08 PM
Hello everyone,

As you may or may not know I'm the guy who post in the marijuana thread and I constantly talk about how I would love to get back to smoking weed but I wish I could get the same effects without the smoking part, which is physically on my lungs. The reason being is because I run track and I also love the physical well-being of my body and would not want to hurt it in any way possible.

Anyways, my friends just texted me after my practice today and asked if I wanted to trip on some shrooms with them tonight. I would love to experience this high but I'm having second thoughts because I don't want it to effect me as an athlete.

Therefore, I was wondering what the physical effects of doing shrooms just once would have on my athletic ability and if I should do them or not. Thank you for your responses.

shit stroll
10/11/08, 03:11 PM
where is skashroomking when we need him?

shit stroll
10/11/08, 03:12 PM
also, you should look into getting a vaporizer bong.

hXc_pwnage
10/11/08, 03:54 PM
Shrooms won't affect you in the long term.

Do it. They're life changing.

fadedmemories
10/11/08, 03:55 PM
You should try other drugs, like ecstasy, that you don't have to smoke

j-dogg_69
10/11/08, 04:10 PM
ecstasy is a horrible horrible drug, so dirty and just horrible! preety much anything that gets you high is going to do some sort of harm to you, you just have to weigh up the differences

.invisible ink.
10/11/08, 04:41 PM
ecstasy is a horrible horrible drug, so dirty and just horrible! preety much anything that gets you high is going to do some sort of harm to you, you just have to weigh up the differences

back up your statements please. why is mdma a "horrible horrible" drug?

what sort of harm are you expecting from doing anything? most of us who have done or continue to do hallucinogens are not walking around crippled in some form from our use of these psychedelics. If you're that scared, don't do them, it's pretty simple.

oldwirehands
10/11/08, 04:51 PM
back up your statements please. why is mdma a "horrible horrible" drug?

what sort of harm are you expecting from doing anything? most of us who have done or continue to do hallucinogens are not walking around crippled in some form from our use of these psychedelics. If you're that scared, don't do them, it's pretty simple.

He probably doesn't know what MDMA is .

takemyhand
10/11/08, 05:05 PM
Hello everyone,

As you may or may not know I'm the guy who post in the marijuana thread and I constantly talk about how I would love to get back to smoking weed but I wish I could get the same effects without the smoking part, which is physically on my lungs. The reason being is because I run track and I also love the physical well-being of my body and would not want to hurt it in any way possible.

Anyways, my friends just texted me after my practice today and asked if I wanted to trip on some shrooms with them tonight. I would love to experience this high but I'm having second thoughts because I don't want it to effect me as an athlete.

Therefore, I was wondering what the physical effects of doing shrooms just once would have on my athletic ability and if I should do them or not. Thank you for your responses.



lol I've never done drugs; but all my friends have... hm. my friend did shrooms and went to a football game and was like trying to climb the fence up the bleachers, so I could imagine that if he fell he'd be hurt. lol so if you do shrooms you could hurt yourself doing stupid stuff.

thesafeword
10/11/08, 05:17 PM
takemyhand with another /thread.

takemyhand
10/11/08, 05:24 PM
shhh...

HelpMeSleep
10/11/08, 05:38 PM
takemyhand with another /thread.
epic knowledge and skillz, you know?

anamericangod
10/11/08, 05:46 PM
back up your statements please. why is mdma a "horrible horrible" drug?

what sort of harm are you expecting from doing anything? most of us who have done or continue to do hallucinogens are not walking around crippled in some form from our use of these psychedelics. If you're that scared, don't do them, it's pretty simple.

MDMA has been proven to have catastrophic effects on the brain.

Burning Star IV
10/11/08, 05:58 PM
Drugs are bad, m'kay?

kaycey
10/11/08, 06:04 PM
only in moderation.

ammar
10/11/08, 06:07 PM
So what are actyally the bad effects of shroom? i neeed to convince my friend to trip with me on these!

oldwirehands
10/11/08, 06:11 PM
So what are actyally the bad effects of shroom? i neeed to convince my friend to trip with me on these!

The only thing you can say is that there is no scientific evidence proving that mushrooms any long-term physical or mental damage at all whatsoever. If they're really afraid of doing it, they could possibly have a bad trip and that would just freak them out even more. Hallucinogens should always be done in a comfortable and positive environment.

HelpMeSleep
10/11/08, 06:11 PM
So what are actyally the bad effects of shroom? i neeed to convince my friend to trip with me on these!
the negatives aren't exactly the place to start when it comes to persuasion.

kaycey
10/11/08, 06:21 PM
So what are actyally the bad effects of shroom? i neeed to convince my friend to trip with me on these!
tell him its nature's way of saying, drugs are good for the environment.
GO GREEN!!!!!!

smithariko
10/11/08, 07:15 PM
do it

thesafeword
10/11/08, 07:21 PM
Peer pressure should only be taken in sexual situations involving me, so don't do it.

caress me down
10/11/08, 08:40 PM
MDMA has been proven to have catastrophic effects on the brain.
pwned

.invisible ink.
10/12/08, 09:09 AM
MDMA has been proven to have catastrophic effects on the brain.

I've actually seen the study that was done by Johns Hopkins University on the effects of MDMA, in fact, I was actually asked to participate in that study but declined due to not having an interest in getting a spinal tap for only $500 in compensation.

The study does not show conclusive evidence regarding the long-term effects of MDMA usage. The study was flawed because the participants had taken many different drugs and many in large quantities over a non-specific period of time. It is true that some MRIs done have shown areas of the brain which do not show as much activity as they should, but this can be caused by a myriad of things and proves the study inconclusive.

Does this mean you should go out and take 6 pills of e every weekend? of course not, but honestly, doing it once in a while isn't going to affect you to any great degree unless of course you're receiving something that is NOT MDMA and could ultimately harm you. That's a risk you take whenever you ingest an unfamiliar substance into your body. So to the OP, doing e will not affect your athletic ability in any noticeable way.

pwned

lick my left tit.

alcoholandirony
10/12/08, 09:15 AM
always check out http://www.erowid.org before using a drug.

oldwirehands
10/12/08, 09:18 AM
www.shroomery.org

thats all you need for shrooms.

/thread

bung
10/12/08, 10:22 AM
One of the biggest studies ever done on MDMA proved that it causes "holes" to be eaten away in the brain. Oh, but wait. When they went back and checked the study it was found that they gave the subjects methamphetamine instead of MDMA. Oops! I wonder where all the fallacious knowledge of ecstasy comes from?

Since ecstasy has only been popular since the 80s or so, long-term studies are simply incomplete on the drug.

.invisible ink.
10/12/08, 11:28 AM
One of the biggest studies ever done on MDMA proved that it causes "holes" to be eaten away in the brain. Oh, but wait. When they went back and checked the study it was found that they gave the subjects methamphetamine instead of MDMA. Oops! I wonder where all the fallacious knowledge of ecstasy comes from?

Since ecstasy has only been popular since the 80s or so, long-term studies are simply incomplete on the drug.

that's the study i was referring to, I believe. They weren't actually giving the subjects any drugs during the course of the study - it was only a study done on individuals who had a history of drug usage, MDMA included.

Smash Adams
10/12/08, 11:29 AM
I've actually seen the study that was done by Johns Hopkins University on the effects of MDMA, in fact, I was actually asked to participate in that study but declined due to not having an interest in getting a spinal tap for only $500 in compensation.

The study does not show conclusive evidence regarding the long-term effects of MDMA usage. The study was flawed because the participants had taken many different drugs and many in large quantities over a non-specific period of time. It is true that some MRIs done have shown areas of the brain which do not show as much activity as they should, but this can be caused by a myriad of things and proves the study inconclusive.

Does this mean you should go out and take 6 pills of e every weekend? of course not, but honestly, doing it once in a while isn't going to affect you to any great degree unless of course you're receiving something that is NOT MDMA and could ultimately harm you. That's a risk you take whenever you ingest an unfamiliar substance into your body. So to the OP, doing e will not affect your athletic ability in any noticeable way.



lick my left tit.

that's the study i was referring to, I believe. They weren't actually giving the subjects any drugs during the course of the study - it was only a study done on individuals who had a history of drug usage, MDMA included.
stop doing E

.invisible ink.
10/12/08, 11:35 AM
stop doing E

why?

Smash Adams
10/12/08, 11:48 AM
why?
because my mom basically convinced me that everyone who does E kills themselves, or that's what she tried to do by telling me all these horror stories

.invisible ink.
10/12/08, 04:14 PM
because my mom basically convinced me that everyone who does E kills themselves, or that's what she tried to do by telling me all these horror stories

sounds like your mom should try some e. it's a pretty life-changing experience, she'd most definitely have a change of heart.

kaycey
10/12/08, 04:36 PM
lol

laxcrs
10/12/08, 05:12 PM
my friend jumped out of a second story window due to shrooms

.invisible ink.
10/12/08, 05:23 PM
my friend jumped out of a second story window due to shrooms

that's kind of a buzz kill. what happened to him after that?

kaycey
10/12/08, 05:36 PM
my friend jumped out of a second story window due to shrooms
that sucks man. some people i know act really really weird and paranoid once their high. never a good thing.

kaycey
10/12/08, 05:36 PM
that's kind of a buzz kill. what happened to him after that?
6 left.

smithariko
10/12/08, 06:03 PM
sounds like your mom should try some e. it's a pretty life-changing experience, she'd most definitely have a change of heart.

could you describe your experiences? just curious to know what it's like.

.invisible ink.
10/12/08, 06:12 PM
could you describe your experiences? just curious to know what it's like.

all of my e experiences have taken place among close friends, and judge as you may, many of those times took places at raves (10+ years ago, mind you). there's an extreme feeling of closeness and love toward everyone, especially your good friends. you are able to still be in total control but all the good things you keep inside and are afraid to disclose are able to surface. it might sound really cheesy and lame but you are able to appreciate (and express that appreciation) regarding all that you have in your life when typically those thoughts and feelings are crowded out by all the other garbage going on. There's usually a lot of laughing and fun and you're able to just be free.

When MDMA was first invented in the 1980s, psychiatrists and psychologists used it in a clinical setting to help people overcome hurdles in their life such as coping with cancer or the death of a loved one. There's a clip I've seen a few times from an old Donohue show where he has responsible adults on who have been treated with MDMA clinically and they claim it helped them immensely.

Every person I've ever known to have tried it has been changed on a deep level from doing it. It allows you to see things in a different way than you've ever known. As a tool for self-realization it is unmatched by anything else (next would be acid, at least in my opinion).

caress me down
10/12/08, 06:15 PM
I've actually seen the study that was done by Johns Hopkins University on the effects of MDMA, in fact, I was actually asked to participate in that study but declined due to not having an interest in getting a spinal tap for only $500 in compensation.

The study does not show conclusive evidence regarding the long-term effects of MDMA usage. The study was flawed because the participants had taken many different drugs and many in large quantities over a non-specific period of time. It is true that some MRIs done have shown areas of the brain which do not show as much activity as they should, but this can be caused by a myriad of things and proves the study inconclusive.

Does this mean you should go out and take 6 pills of e every weekend? of course not, but honestly, doing it once in a while isn't going to affect you to any great degree unless of course you're receiving something that is NOT MDMA and could ultimately harm you. That's a risk you take whenever you ingest an unfamiliar substance into your body. So to the OP, doing e will not affect your athletic ability in any noticeable way.



lick my left tit.
lolwut

bung
10/12/08, 06:16 PM
my friend jumped out of a second story window due to shrooms

Second story windows aren't even that high, anyway.

kaycey
10/12/08, 06:35 PM
all of my e experiences have taken place among close friends, and judge as you may, many of those times took places at raves (10+ years ago, mind you). there's an extreme feeling of closeness and love toward everyone, especially your good friends. you are able to still be in total control but all the good things you keep inside and are afraid to disclose are able to surface. it might sound really cheesy and lame but you are able to appreciate (and express that appreciation) regarding all that you have in your life when typically those thoughts and feelings are crowded out by all the other garbage going on. There's usually a lot of laughing and fun and you're able to just be free.

When MDMA was first invented in the 1980s, psychiatrists and psychologists used it in a clinical setting to help people overcome hurdles in their life such as coping with cancer or the death of a loved one. There's a clip I've seen a few times from an old Donohue show where he has responsible adults on who have been treated with MDMA clinically and they claim it helped them immensely.

Every person I've ever known to have tried it has been changed on a deep level from doing it. It allows you to see things in a different way than you've ever known. As a tool for self-realization it is unmatched by anything else (next would be acid, at least in my opinion).
congratulations on reaching the 1000 mark.:party::chewy:

I'm DC
10/12/08, 06:48 PM
I read somewhere that the "holes" in the brain from MDMA are actually just black on the scans because that part of the brain shuts down temporarily during the high. Afterwards it's completely fine.
I have no source, so it may not be true.

I do know that it can severely fuck you up if you do them in excess, but most drugs will.

.invisible ink.
10/12/08, 07:02 PM
congratulations on reaching the 1000 mark.:party::chewy:

thank you!! it's exciting to be part of this uber-elite club on ap. (ha, yeah right!)

I read somewhere that the "holes" in the brain from MDMA are actually just black on the scans because that part of the brain shuts down temporarily during the high. Afterwards it's completely fine.
I have no source, so it may not be true.

I do know that it can severely fuck you up if you do them in excess, but most drugs will.

this is true. i believe that the dark parts of the brain scans do indicate damage not holes, per se, but I'm not sure how long that damage lasts. I'd love to compare the brain scans of a habitual alcohol user to an occasional mdma user and see how they fair.

AP_Punk
10/12/08, 07:13 PM
drugs are good

- NOFX

reckoner
10/12/08, 08:23 PM
all of my e experiences have taken place among close friends, and judge as you may, many of those times took places at raves (10+ years ago, mind you). there's an extreme feeling of closeness and love toward everyone, especially your good friends. you are able to still be in total control but all the good things you keep inside and are afraid to disclose are able to surface. it might sound really cheesy and lame but you are able to appreciate (and express that appreciation) regarding all that you have in your life when typically those thoughts and feelings are crowded out by all the other garbage going on. There's usually a lot of laughing and fun and you're able to just be free.

When MDMA was first invented in the 1980s, psychiatrists and psychologists used it in a clinical setting to help people overcome hurdles in their life such as coping with cancer or the death of a loved one. There's a clip I've seen a few times from an old Donohue show where he has responsible adults on who have been treated with MDMA clinically and they claim it helped them immensely.

Every person I've ever known to have tried it has been changed on a deep level from doing it. It allows you to see things in a different way than you've ever known. As a tool for self-realization it is unmatched by anything else (next would be acid, at least in my opinion).
i agree 100%.

biodegradable
10/13/08, 08:22 AM
shrooms can fuck up your liver and kidneys real bad.

thespearkid
10/13/08, 08:35 AM
OP overdoses and never returns.

Jordan's Fall
10/13/08, 08:39 AM
...not to mention, eating shrooms is like a form of food poisoning.- it'll make ya pretty sick. you'll prolly throwup alot...and after a while of throwing up, you can loose your teeth from rotting.

but just weigh the pros and cons.....i think someone said earlier that all the drugs are gonna have some form of negative affect.... pretty much any thing you put in your body, except water...and most vitamins, can have adverse affects...if not used in moderation.

as for me.....i'm just stickin with the good ol' mary jane for a bit....although, shrooms do sound like a good time. - i just don't wanna get sick

pilot_light_out
10/13/08, 08:44 AM
just do it

- Nike

skashroomking
10/13/08, 09:49 AM
shrooms, shrooms, shrooms..

take some advise from me, shrooms are ok manybe once every few months, its not an everyday thing

bung
10/13/08, 11:10 AM
shrooms can fuck up your liver and kidneys real bad.

No, they can't (http://www.shroomery.org/8763/Do-hallucinogenic-mushrooms-cause-liver-damage).

...not to mention, eating shrooms is like a form of food poisoning.- it'll make ya pretty sick. you'll prolly throwup alot...and after a while of throwing up, you can loose your teeth from rotting.

but just weigh the pros and cons.....i think someone said earlier that all the drugs are gonna have some form of negative affect.... pretty much any thing you put in your body, except water...and most vitamins, can have adverse affects...if not used in moderation.

as for me.....i'm just stickin with the good ol' mary jane for a bit....although, shrooms do sound like a good time. - i just don't wanna get sick

It's not really food poisoning in the same sense that if you eat some bad fish you'll get sick. The psilocybin is the mushroom's natural defense against being eaten. However, in humans it has an extremely low toxicity. As for throwing up--most don't, but some people do. For it to damage your teeth in any significant way, however, a person would need to be throwing up on a consistent basis (ie; daily for many months) for it to have any effect whatsoever on a person's teeth. Since mushrooms are about as opposite from habit forming or addictive as you can get, combined with an experienced user's small likelihood of throwing up, this is essentially a non-issue.

And everything damages your body if used in excess. Too much water will cause a kind of water poisoning, upsetting the delicate balance of salt in the blood, ultimately leading to death. Almost any (if not every) vitamin taken in excess will have adverse effects on the body, too.


take some advise from me, shrooms are ok manybe once every few months, its not an everyday thing

Shit man, you couldn't do them everyday even if you wanted to. Psilocybin tolerance builds up so fast that by the third day you'd probably be feeling nothing. Not to mention the cross tolerance it has with LSD, LSA, and just about every other hallucinogen out there.

skashroomking
10/13/08, 12:15 PM
No, they can't (http://www.shroomery.org/8763/Do-hallucinogenic-mushrooms-cause-liver-damage).



It's not really food poisoning in the same sense that if you eat some bad fish you'll get sick. The psilocybin is the mushroom's natural defense against being eaten. However, in humans it has an extremely low toxicity. As for throwing up--most don't, but some people do. For it to damage your teeth in any significant way, however, a person would need to be throwing up on a consistent basis (ie; daily for many months) for it to have any effect whatsoever on a person's teeth. Since mushrooms are about as opposite from habit forming or addictive as you can get, combined with an experienced user's small likelihood of throwing up, this is essentially a non-issue.

And everything damages your body if used in excess. Too much water will cause a kind of water poisoning, upsetting the delicate balance of salt in the blood, ultimately leading to death. Almost any (if not every) vitamin taken in excess will have adverse effects on the body, too.



Shit man, you couldn't do them everyday even if you wanted to. Psilocybin tolerance builds up so fast that by the third day you'd probably be feeling nothing. Not to mention the cross tolerance it has with LSD, LSA, and just about every other hallucinogen out there.
my point exactily, shrooms will fuck ur shit up!

most of my friends are fucking retarded when it comes to shrooms, they wont really listen to me

parallelism
10/13/08, 12:17 PM
It's really not very harmful to your body physically, but it's really important that you stick to a moderate dosage your first time.

Even more importantly, make sure that mentally, you've been in a good place lately. If you've been feeling down or just haven't had a very stable/enjoyable state of mind, don't do it. And obviously, if you get symptoms of seasonal depression, this probably isn't the right time of year for you to take them.

Shrooms can be a really positive, life-changing experience. But if you take them in the wrong psychological state, these things can completely ruin you for a while, in a way you wouldn't understand until it has happened to you. So just have fun and be careful.

.invisible ink.
10/13/08, 04:05 PM
my point exactily, shrooms will fuck ur shit up!



how was that your point exactly? he was not stating that "shrooms will fuck ur shit up!", in fact, it appeared he was stating quite the opposite.



i scored high in reading comprehension.

Maxwell
10/13/08, 04:52 PM
MDMA has been proven to have catastrophic effects on the brain.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5230006.stm

Ecstacy is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco.

anamericangod
10/13/08, 04:59 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5230006.stm

Ecstacy is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco.

Just because they do different things doesn't mean you can label it as "less harmful."

PezMullet
10/13/08, 05:38 PM
MDMA makes you vagina smell like rotten fish

bung
10/13/08, 06:06 PM
Just because they do different things doesn't mean you can label it as "less harmful."

I think it's time for you to stop posting in this thread because you know nothing about the topic.

anamericangod
10/13/08, 06:22 PM
I think it's time for you to stop posting in this thread because you know nothing about the topic.

Yup, that must be it. Thanks for the clarification.

bung
10/13/08, 07:17 PM
Yup, that must be it. Thanks for the clarification.

It is it. You're welcome.

amysaurus
10/13/08, 07:20 PM
Shrooms are ridiculously fun. If you have even a remotely good trip, you will have a great time. I personally like doing them on a warm day at the beach and then seeing where they take me from there. If you only plan on doing them once or twice, you'll be fine in terms of your sports and whatnot. Don't worry.

XXKILLXHANNAHXX
10/13/08, 08:18 PM
MDMA makes you vagina smell like rotten fish
Ew.

laxcrs
10/13/08, 08:19 PM
that's kind of a buzz kill. what happened to him after that?

that sucks man. some people i know act really really weird and paranoid once their high. never a good thing.

Second story windows aren't even that high, anyway.

fuck you he died

nah but he was really fucked up and it was his fault. he took a crazy amount i dont remember the number but he was telling us the whole trip story and it was to the point where his parents had to call the cops on him to get it under control. also noone could really know b/c of the whole catholic high school thing so he just told people that "he fell". but he had severe cuts all over his body and took awhile to get better. lucky things werent worse.

kaycey
10/13/08, 08:40 PM
fuck you he died

nah but he was really fucked up and it was his fault. he took a crazy amount i dont remember the number but he was telling us the whole trip story and it was to the point where his parents had to call the cops on him to get it under control. also noone could really know b/c of the whole catholic high school thing so he just told people that "he fell". but he had severe cuts all over his body and took awhile to get better. lucky things werent worse.
get "it" under control.....huh, glad to hear he's fine though.
the way i see it if he fell from the second story, not high on drugs, he could have died from the pain. DRUGS SAVE LIVES!!!!!:-)

.invisible ink.
10/14/08, 01:50 AM
get "it" under control.....huh, glad to hear he's fine though.
the way i see it if he fell from the second story, not high on drugs, he could have died from the pain. DRUGS SAVE LIVES!!!!!:-)

nah, i assumed he didn't die or even hurt himself too much, 2nd floors aren't that bad, as bung stated and I implied.

dancelukedance
10/14/08, 02:11 AM
Trying shrooms once won't do any physical harm, unless of course, you do something ridiculous as stated above.

I've done them once, and i thoroughly enjoyed them hahah

kaycey
10/14/08, 01:38 PM
nah, i assumed he didn't die or even hurt himself too much, 2nd floors aren't that bad, as bung stated and I implied.
is he bung? don't lie.

Kassie09
10/14/08, 01:39 PM
Shrooms have never done anything to me. Except make me get extreme rug burn on my back and stuff, I can't remember what must have been going on. Maybe I was making a snow angel.

.invisible ink.
10/14/08, 05:33 PM
is he bung? don't lie.

is who bung?

kaycey
10/14/08, 08:06 PM
is who bung?
oh, so your going to pretend like you don't understand huh......it must be him.

bung
10/14/08, 08:40 PM
is he bung? don't lie.

is who bung?

oh, so your going to pretend like you don't understand huh......it must be him.

:squint:

Uh, wtf are you guys talking about? And how do I fit into it?

zeropunk16
10/14/08, 08:50 PM
I've done them twice. The first time was ok cause we were watching TV the whole time. The second time sucked cause we decided to just listen to music.

NOTE:
If you do them, don't listen to Peter Gabriel's "Passion" or King Crimson "Larks Tongues In Aspic"

kaycey
10/14/08, 08:51 PM
:squint:

Uh, wtf are you guys talking about? And how do I fit into it?
lol....naa, its not you, don't worry.

bung
10/14/08, 08:58 PM
:whistle:

kaycey
10/14/08, 09:06 PM
or are you???????? fuck, i can't think straight.

Willy McFurgle
10/14/08, 09:35 PM
The most you will have as an effect is claiming to have sat in a room with scooby doo, mickey mouse, the teletubbies, and dustin diamond sharing thoughts on what the next step of evolution might be.

.invisible ink.
10/15/08, 01:51 AM
The most you will have as an effect is claiming to have sat in a room with scooby doo, mickey mouse, the teletubbies, and dustin diamond sharing thoughts on what the next step of evolution might be.

that sounds eerily similar to when i had a bad trip on acid, at one point, the characters of Alice in Wonderland were dancing around the room...which might sound great but it wasn't, it was scary.

dancelukedance
10/15/08, 02:15 AM
that sounds eerily similar to when i had a bad trip on acid, at one point, the characters of Alice in Wonderland were dancing around the room...which might sound great but it wasn't, it was scary.

hahah that would of been terrifying, whats your favourite drug?

.invisible ink.
10/15/08, 03:45 AM
hahah that would of been terrifying, whats your favourite drug?

acid, closely followed by e. yours?

Jordan's Fall
10/15/08, 07:56 AM
No, they can't (http://www.shroomery.org/8763/Do-hallucinogenic-mushrooms-cause-liver-damage).



It's not really food poisoning in the same sense that if you eat some bad fish you'll get sick. The psilocybin is the mushroom's natural defense against being eaten. However, in humans it has an extremely low toxicity. As for throwing up--most don't, but some people do. For it to damage your teeth in any significant way, however, a person would need to be throwing up on a consistent basis (ie; daily for many months) for it to have any effect whatsoever on a person's teeth. Since mushrooms are about as opposite from habit forming or addictive as you can get, combined with an experienced user's small likelihood of throwing up, this is essentially a non-issue.

And everything damages your body if used in excess. Too much water will cause a kind of water poisoning, upsetting the delicate balance of salt in the blood, ultimately leading to death. Almost any (if not every) vitamin taken in excess will have adverse effects on the body, too.


wow, bung, you sure did your research...lol - not quite.
i don't mean to call you out...well...yeah i do.
i think you're alot of bullshit. and ya like to make people think you are some smartass prodigy that has an answer for everything. - idk. just what it seems like....but hey.- whatever does it for ya.
but if you're gonna correct somebody with your huge scientific BS explanations, make sure you know what you are talking about.
i'm not claiming to be a "shroom know-it-all" by any means, but i am claiming to have a heightened understanding of the human body. - i graduated nursing school last year.

for you to say that it's not food poisoning in the sense of getting sick from eating bad fish, is incorrect. in fact it's very much food poisoning. - it is the BODY's natural defense to want to get the foreign, toxic substance out of it's stomach by inducing the urge to throw up. ...and yes, MANY people have thrown up on shrooms.- espescially first timers...it's the same as eating a bad salad and throwing up- that's food poisoning also. -it doesn't have to be just salmonela to be food poison.

you really think you can overdose on most vitamins? NO... now, ok, i'll give ya vitamin K (found in most leafy green foods). - too much can thicken your blood...which really won't have a bad outcome, unless you have problems with blood clots.
you can take as many multi vitamins a day as your lil heart desires...you will never overdose. - excess vitamins and minerals that are consumed are flushed out through your system- unabsorbed...into your urine.....soooo at the worst, you'll have lime green piss.

as for too much water consumption...whatever, i'd think it'd be the same as vitamins...i don't really know...but i have an idea that you don't either. -cells in your body can only absorb so much...after that, the body will designate excess as waste (pee). if your kidneys are in good order...i don't think you'd have to worry about it. - do you know how cells work? X-)

bung
10/15/08, 09:33 AM
wow, bung, you sure did your research...lol - not quite.
i don't mean to call you out...well...yeah i do.
i think you're alot of bullshit. and ya like to make people think you are some smartass prodigy that has an answer for everything. - idk. just what it seems like....but hey.- whatever does it for ya.
but if you're gonna correct somebody with your huge scientific BS explanations, make sure you know what you are talking about.
i'm not claiming to be a "shroom know-it-all" by any means, but i am claiming to have a heightened understanding of the human body. - i graduated nursing school last year.

for you to say that it's not food poisoning in the sense of getting sick from eating bad fish, is incorrect. in fact it's very much food poisoning. - it is the BODY's natural defense to want to get the foreign, toxic substance out of it's stomach by inducing the urge to throw up. ...and yes, MANY people have thrown up on shrooms.- espescially first timers...it's the same as eating a bad salad and throwing up- that's food poisoning also. -it doesn't have to be just salmonela to be food poison.

you really think you can overdose on most vitamins? NO... now, ok, i'll give ya vitamin K (found in most leafy green foods). - too much can thicken your blood...which really won't have a bad outcome, unless you have problems with blood clots.
you can take as many multi vitamins a day as your lil heart desires...you will never overdose. - excess vitamins and minerals that are consumed are flushed out through your system- unabsorbed...into your urine.....soooo at the worst, you'll have lime green piss.

as for too much water consumption...whatever, i'd think it'd be the same as vitamins...i don't really know...but i have an idea that you don't either. -cells in your body can only absorb so much...after that, the body will designate excess as waste (pee). if your kidneys are in good order...i don't think you'd have to worry about it. - do you know how cells work? X-)

Wow. This post fails on so many levels. So many things to address.

1. Eating magic mushrooms is not the same as food poisoning in that food poisoning is caused by a foreign substance that is not supposed to be present in the food, but has gotten there by some other means. Psilocybin is very much supposed to be in the mushrooms and will not cause death, like food poisoning may.

2. Many people do throw up from shrooms. But, especially from first-hand experience (which I'm assuming you have none or either very little of) and my own research, it is still more likely that a person will not throw up.

3. Wow. You graduated from nursing school and know absolutely nothing about the harm excess vitamins can cause the body? Stunning. Do some fucking research (http://www.medicinalfoodnews.com/vol04/issue3/toxicity) before calling someone else out, you vacuous chode.

4. I do know generally how cells work after taking a couple high school biology classes and one college one, just for the record. But apparently you don't know a goddamn thing about them. Many stories have even recently been in the news about water intoxication. I really shouldn't have to be teaching a nursing student these things (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_poisoning). It kind of makes me question the (presumably second-rate) education you received, and it's kind of scary the misinformation you may very well give people.

Please, for the sake of humanity, do not breed.

B-Bones
10/15/08, 10:06 AM
MDMA has been proven to have catastrophic effects on the brain.

Any damage by doing ecstacy once is basically gone after a month. The brain repairs itself and it gains back all that missing seratonin. Seriously if you can get some pure MDMA, you should try it cause it is the greatest feeling in the world, and no comedown. As far as long-term damage, using it once probably isn't going to affect you to a great degree. More research is needed to completely realize the long-term affects of ecstacy use. The nerve damage in the brain is capable of repairing itself, though memory can be affected by the damage.
Plus the reason I love ecstacy so much is because it makes music sound so amazingly incredible. I remember when I always used to roll and listen to either The Sound of Animals Fighting (Lover the Lord Has Left Us) and Brand New (The Devil and God). That shit used to blow my mind. I'd say, if you can find pure MDMA, definitely try it because it's amazing.
As for shrooms, there's no long-term affects that can really hurt your body as long as, like a few people have mentioned, you don't do any stupid shit and hurt yourself while you're on it. It also releases a chemical in your brain that makes you sort of happy for about a week afterward. It can definitely be a life-changing experience. Just make sure that you are in a good mind-state before you take them and you maintain that rosey outlook throughout so the trip doesn't go bad.

Jordan's Fall
10/16/08, 07:09 AM
Wow. This post fails on so many levels. So many things to address.

1. Eating magic mushrooms is not the same as food poisoning in that food poisoning is caused by a foreign substance that is not supposed to be present in the food, but has gotten there by some other means. Psilocybin is very much supposed to be in the mushrooms and will not cause death, like food poisoning may.

2. Many people do throw up from shrooms. But, especially from first-hand experience (which I'm assuming you have none or either very little of) and my own research, it is still more likely that a person will not throw up.

3. Wow. You graduated from nursing school and know absolutely nothing about the harm excess vitamins can cause the body? Stunning. Do some fucking research (http://www.medicinalfoodnews.com/vol04/issue3/toxicity) before calling someone else out, you vacuous chode.

4. I do know generally how cells work after taking a couple high school biology classes and one college one, just for the record. But apparently you don't know a goddamn thing about them. Many stories have even recently been in the news about water intoxication. I really shouldn't have to be teaching a nursing student these things (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_poisoning). It kind of makes me question the (presumably second-rate) education you received, and it's kind of scary the misinformation you may very well give people.

Please, for the sake of humanity, do not breed.



haha. whatever dude....i still think you are full of shit....somewhat

1. although psylocybin is "very much supposed to be" in these shrooms, it is very much not intended to be digested by the body, therefore, being toxic....aka poisonous. salmonella is not considered poisonous because it's not supposed to be in the food. -it's considered poisonous because it's not supposed to be in your body. idiot.

2. no i don't have experience with shrooms...all my freinds that i saw try them on multiple occassions threw up. i actually would like to try em out some day, when i'm ready. i don't even care about the fact that you think shrooms are cool or what not.....i just think you're a pompous dick head that thinks he's smarter than what he is.....anyone can google anything.

3. yes i did graduate from Nursing School, ...ok. this is where i'll admit you're right only to an extent. FAT SOLUBLE vitamins can be overdosed on, if taken in high excess. However... WATER SOLUBLE vitamins- you CANNOT overdose on. water soluble vitamins would include: thaimin, riboflavin, niacin, B6, B12, pyridoxine, biotin, pantothenic acid, and vitamin C....excess of these vitamins are flushed out of your body. these vitamins need to be replaced in the body each day....no way to OD on these.
as far as the water intoxication thing....i'd say that the average person would be ok to not waste their time worrying about that- seeing that you'd have to consume over 3 gallons in a matter of a few minutes to upset the healthy balance of electrolytes to the point where it'd be considered dangerous.

4. i just find it funny how you can do research just to prove me wrong and find how some random person died of water intoxication (probably because they were being retards to see how much they could drink at once) ... but you deny anything about mushroom overdose. look it up. it's there.
" I shouldn't have to be teaching a nursing student these things" - don't worry you didn't teach me anything, douche.

wow...i hope i don't have to be your nurse someday. lol

how bout you take some politeness classes. i see how you just belittle people on here all the time, and it irritates me so bad. maybe you should get a girlfreind?

p.s. i don't even work as a nurse

bung
10/16/08, 09:24 AM
haha. whatever dude....i still think you are full of shit....somewhat

1. although psylocybin is "very much supposed to be" in these shrooms, it is very much not intended to be digested by the body, therefore, being toxic....aka poisonous. salmonella is not considered poisonous because it's not supposed to be in the food. -it's considered poisonous because it's not supposed to be in your body. idiot.

That's not anywhere near what I was implying. And you don't even know what the fuck salmonella is, so it makes me laugh that you chose to use it as an example (besides the fact that salmonella is merely one kind of food poisoning). Salmonella is a naturally occurring bacteria in the intestinal tracts of animals and humans. It is supposed to be in your body, idiot. You just aren't supposed to eat it, because it could kill you. Psilocybin is not bacteria, it is a chemical compound. Tiny bacteria only viewable through a microscope could kill you, yet it would take pounds of mushrooms before psilocybin would physically harm you. Specifically:

"The lethal dose from psilocybin intake alone is unknown at recreational or medicinal levels, and has never been documented; psilocybin makes up roughly 1% of the weight of Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, and so nearly 1.7 kilograms of dried mushrooms, or 17 kilograms of fresh mushrooms, would be required for a 60kg person to reach the 280mg/kg LD50 rate of rats." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin)


2. no i don't have experience with shrooms...all my freinds that i saw try them on multiple occassions threw up. i actually would like to try em out some day, when i'm ready. i don't even care about the fact that you think shrooms are cool or what not.....i just think you're a pompous dick head that thinks he's smarter than what he is.....anyone can google anything.

I've no clue where you got the idea that I think shrooms are "cool." I think they can be an enjoyable, memorable, and life-changing experience, although. I don't think I'm smarter than what I am, but I do know more about magic fucking mushrooms than you could ever imagine. Not to mention a bunch of other drugs because I think they're interesting to learn about. Of course anybody can google. It's clear that's all you do. I'm saying I actually research--as in reading books, studies, writing papers, and getting firsthand experience.


3. yes i did graduate from Nursing School, ...ok. this is where i'll admit you're right only to an extent. FAT SOLUBLE vitamins can be overdosed on, if taken in high excess. However... WATER SOLUBLE vitamins- you CANNOT overdose on. water soluble vitamins would include: thaimin, riboflavin, niacin, B6, B12, pyridoxine, biotin, pantothenic acid, and vitamin C....excess of these vitamins are flushed out of your body. these vitamins need to be replaced in the body each day....no way to OD on these.
as far as the water intoxication thing....i'd say that the average person would be ok to not waste their time worrying about that- seeing that you'd have to consume over 3 gallons in a matter of a few minutes to upset the healthy balance of electrolytes to the point where it'd be considered dangerous.

Even some water-soluble vitamins can be overdosed on (http://www.ext.colostate.edu/PUBS/FOODNUT/09312.html) as well as all fat-soluble ones. Which makes it impossible to argue against the fact that a large portion of many different vitamins can be toxic. And I'm not saying anyone should necessarily worry about water poisoning, but it can and does happen. I was only making the point that virtually anything can be toxic, even something thought to be so benign, like water.


4. i just find it funny how you can do research just to prove me wrong and find how some random person died of water intoxication (probably because they were being retards to see how much they could drink at once) ... but you deny anything about mushroom overdose. look it up. it's there.
" I shouldn't have to be teaching a nursing student these things" - don't worry you didn't teach me anything, douche.

I'm not doing research to prove you wrong. I've already done the research. I'm only referencing some quick, easy and accessible sources. For the record, there has never been a known case of psilocybin overdose (http://www.safety1st.org/images/stories/drugfacts/mushrooms.pdf).


how bout you take some politeness classes. i see how you just belittle people on here all the time, and it irritates me so bad. maybe you should get a girlfreind?

I don't like being polite, especially on the the internet of all places. I like to belittle stupid people, especially ones that have your rare and superior breed of stupidity. I have a girlfriend.

Jordan's Fall
10/17/08, 05:55 AM
ok...first off, i never said that Psilocybin was a bacteria...and i know that salmonella is....you fucking retard. i simply said that it is toxic aka poisonous....is that not correct?

secondly...please name one water soluble vitamin that is dangerous and that can get stored in your body that can build up to cause a high amount.
fat soluble vitamins can be harmful because they are stored in the fat cells of your body....building up over time

but i'm not here to nit pick through every little detail you come back at me with anymore.

i see you can enjoyment out of this....and honestly maybe i do too a lil. it can be fun to argue with someone that i'll, thank god, never see in real life.

you obviously take way to much pride in thinking you're smarter than the average. - i know you're not the genious to claim to be. - you like to sound smart when you type (and i assume talk). but i read your blogs. -some of them are interesting...some of them look like a 6th grader was trying to write a poem....and some of them, you seem to forget that your trying to sound intelligent, and let your true colors show by ignorantly calling some guy out at a party or some shit....idk...i could barely understand it through all of your random swaring.

anyways have fun being mean and ignorant- i know you probably hate when people use that word with you. haha you prick!

take it easy!
see ya around!

Jordan's Fall
10/17/08, 05:56 AM
"i have a girlfreind" - i don't believe you. you're too selfish to love anyone else.

bung
10/17/08, 06:24 AM
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e264/inhalewater/giveacrapometerkf9-1.gif

mattmatumbo
10/17/08, 08:44 AM
i still need to try these shrooms, cause portobello aren't doing a thing for my mind.

delvec19
10/17/08, 07:20 PM
i absolutely love shrooms, and i absolutely hate how rare they are. I wish it was as easy to get as weed is. anyone know of anyone in north jersey with em...lemme know lol.

mattmatumbo
10/17/08, 07:24 PM
all i know is that in moab (where im from) they're more abundant than weed. also, why was everyone writing books earlier? i cant read all that nonsense.

billyboatkid
10/17/08, 07:33 PM
I loves me some shrooms. Not as much as weed but close. Just make sure you havve a strong mind before you take them.

A7XGurl
10/17/08, 07:34 PM
I love mushrooms they are so yummy especially on pizza

open mind
10/17/08, 07:35 PM
my friend jumped out of a second story window due to shrooms

i've done that a few times sober just kill the boredom.

.invisible ink.
10/17/08, 08:06 PM
"i have a girlfreind" - i don't believe you. you're too selfish to love anyone else.

this comes off like a lover's spat or something. do you actually have a crush on bung? he is pretty cute, i don't blame you you seem to care a lot about someone you seem to hate.

ps- i before e, except after c

edit: holy christ you're a creepy looking dude
http://a523.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/115/l_ff38ca6d6994f4e63e10d798152f9952. jpg i would not want you drawing my blood

AshesAshes
10/18/08, 04:27 PM
Shrooms + Corn Maze was a pretty good time

touchtheyifus
10/18/08, 06:19 PM
I recently had an experience with shrooms that changed my life, or my perspective on life, to be more precise. I realized a lot of things that i could never really rationalize with words, but that i will never forget. Anyone who has never tried could not possibly imagine the effects you can achieve, and i kinda feel bad for anyone who wants to try, and who would most likely LOVE the trip, but never will because they're too scared. Do your own research (i recommend sites like erowid) and make the decision for yourself.

touchtheyifus
10/18/08, 06:20 PM
ps: jordan's fall guy, you're an assbag

oldwirehands
10/18/08, 07:19 PM
me want. while watching a compilation of fucked up videos to watch. yes.

skashroomking
10/20/08, 10:21 AM
how was that your point exactly? he was not stating that "shrooms will fuck ur shit up!", in fact, it appeared he was stating quite the opposite.



i scored high in reading comprehension.
good for u