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sorry you all hate me. Allstar cheerleading. it's a sport.
.. discuss
DaveFeelsRight
10/12/08, 10:26 PM
this is going to turn out well.
Smash Adams
10/12/08, 10:30 PM
reasons for it being a sport: it is broadcast on ESPN and is surely an athletic activity
reasons against: it can not exist in a vacuum, it's centered around other sports
vandalroyale
10/12/08, 10:32 PM
My wife owns her own all star cheerleading gym. However, still not a sport.
CarlosLunes
10/12/08, 10:35 PM
not small
Broken Parachute
10/12/08, 10:36 PM
At least we can all agree it's more of a sport than NASCAR.
vandalroyale
10/12/08, 10:38 PM
At least we can all agree it's more of a sport than NASCAR.
Hahaha. Affirmative.
Smash Adams
10/12/08, 10:40 PM
At least we can all agree it's more of a sport than NASCAR.
better looking people too
At least we can all agree it's more of a sport than NASCAR.
hahah yes!!
preppyak
10/12/08, 11:00 PM
reasons against: it can not exist in a vacuum, it's centered around other sportsNot true...and I can't believe I am defending cheerleading...but there are a LARGE series of competitions that have nothing to do with football or any other sport...they have to do essentially with cheers and gymnastic ability...and they are cheering for their school more so than for a specific sport.
I think if other sports died instantly, there would still be a place for cheerleading/dance teams.
At least we can all agree it's more of a sport than NASCAR.
True...I can make banked left turns 1000 times if need be, but I can't do a double back handspring, or that weird fucking scorpion thing in mid air.
better looking people too
not in her case
i liked bring it on. quality movie
spirit fingers
Burning Star IV
10/13/08, 12:27 AM
Cheerleading > NASCAR > Poker
StandMyBrothers
10/13/08, 12:28 AM
speaking of cheerleading were your guy's highschool's cheerleading squad ugly? There's like one decent looking chick on there and everything else is disgusting. The Dance Team/Soccer team is where its at.
our volleyball team is where it was at
Bigalan2004
10/13/08, 01:13 AM
usc's cheerleaders are all pretty good looking in my opinion.
i thought a high level of hotness was a pre-requisite for cheerleading?
punkrockness
10/13/08, 01:26 AM
I've done cheerleading, but I've always been more of a dance team kind of girl. I was in a competitive dance group for 10 years and I always thought that dance should be considered a sport.
Spicoli hey bud
10/13/08, 06:11 AM
So every time I yell in a cheerful manner while I'm at a game, am I participating in a sport?
xbrokendownx
10/13/08, 06:47 AM
apparently
So every time I yell in a cheerful manner while I'm at a game, am I participating in a sport?
not that type of cheerleading
Smash Adams
10/13/08, 11:15 AM
Not true...and I can't believe I am defending cheerleading...but there are a LARGE series of competitions that have nothing to do with football or any other sport...they have to do essentially with cheers and gymnastic ability...and they are cheering for their school more so than for a specific sport.
I think if other sports died instantly, there would still be a place for cheerleading/dance teams.
True...I can make banked left turns 1000 times if need be, but I can't do a double back handspring, or that weird fucking scorpion thing in mid air.
I know that, I guess what I was saying is that I don't think it would have started as an activity if it weren't for other sports
should have made that more clear
FondestMemory
10/13/08, 12:37 PM
So every time I yell in a cheerful manner while I'm at a game, am I participating in a sport?
if you're doing it while doing flips and shit and showing great athleticism and agility, then yes.
Spicoli hey bud
10/13/08, 02:38 PM
I tend to look at sports with a few qualifiers...
1) Your efforts directly affect the efforts of your opponent, in many cases, making it a "game" (exception: golf) - Fail
2) Physical activity is involved - Pass
3) It can be done recreationally, like in a backyard, court, etc. - Fail, for the most part (You don't really see pick-up Cheerleading "games." Practice, maybe)
4) HUMAN ERROR DOES NOT END ONE'S CHANCES OF "WINNING." ("Sports based solely on "judges" are usually not sports) - FAIL
Questionable "sports" = nascar (I say no), bowling (yes), figure skating, freestyle skiing, snowboarding, biking, etc (tough to say)
FondestMemory
10/13/08, 02:55 PM
I tend to look at sports with a few qualifiers...
1) Your efforts directly affect the efforts of your opponent, in many cases, making it a "game" (exception: golf) - Fail
2) Physical activity is involved - Pass
3) It can be done recreationally, like in a backyard, court, etc. - Fail, for the most part (You don't really see pick-up Cheerleading "games." Practice, maybe)
4) HUMAN ERROR DOES NOT END ONE'S CHANCES OF "WINNING." ("Sports based solely on "judges" are usually not sports) - FAIL
Questionable "sports" = nascar (I say no), bowling (yes), figure skating, freestyle skiing, snowboarding, biking, etc (tough to say)
1. why is golf the exception? and you say yes to bowling, which is in the same boat. what makes them the exception and not cheerleading? i would think it being a team sport would qualify it slightly more than the individual sports. especially when you take into account that cheerleading takes wayyyy more athleticism than golf or bowling.
3. i'm confused by this one. it's in the same boat as gymnastics here. you can go out and just practice alone in the backyard, or practice with a friend. much like going out and shooting baskets alone, or with a friend. i guess i fail to see the point of this one.
4. human error comes into play in every single sport there is. again, i'm missing the point here. there's always going to be human error, no matter what the activity. ask chargers fans if human error can end one's chances of winning. does that make football not a sport? this whole point is just wrong, because by this logic gymnastics isn't a sport. and if you wanna argue that gymnastics isn't a sport, then you're just a lost cause.
VoiceoffCamera
10/13/08, 02:59 PM
reasons for it being a sport: it is broadcast on ESPN and is surely an athletic activity
reasons against: it can not exist in a vacuum, it's centered around other sports
ESPN also broadcasts scrabble championships and the spelling bee...neither of which are a sport
Spicoli hey bud
10/13/08, 03:01 PM
1. why is golf the exception? and you say yes to bowling, which is in the same boat.
Exception means that it is an EXCEPTION to the rule.
3. i'm confused by this one. it's in the same boat as gymnastics here. you can go out and just practice alone in the backyard, or practice with a friend. much like going out and shooting baskets alone, or with a friend. i guess i fail to see the point of this one. Apparently so.
4. human error comes into play in every single sport there is. again, i'm missing the point here. there's always going to be human error, no matter what the activity. ask chargers fans if human error can end one's chances of winning. does that make football not a sport? this whole point is just wrong, because by this logic gymnastics isn't a sport. and if you wanna argue that gymnastics isn't a sport, then you're just a lost cause.
Yes you are.
Human error, in most sports, does not preclude a team from winning if they truly are more talented. For example, in basketball, a shitty referee can only do so much to keep a team from winning if they are that much better. Same goes for baseball, football, etc. Activities like gymnastics however, are solely dependent on a judges ruling/interpretation of what is happening. Obviously there are certain attributes and qualifiers that judges are looking for, and there is a certain degree of consistency involved in such decisions, but that wasn't the point that I was getting at.
You missed the point on all 3 accounts.
duhpunk
10/13/08, 03:11 PM
sex with cheerleaders is more of a sport than cheerleading
1. your efforts directly affect the other- pass
2. physical activity- pass
3. can be done anywhere- pass
4. human error doesn't end one's chances- pass. unless you have a limp dick
splitsecond
10/13/08, 03:28 PM
personal life forum
FondestMemory
10/13/08, 03:57 PM
Exception means that it is an EXCEPTION to the rule.
Apparently so.
Yes you are.
Human error, in most sports, does not preclude a team from winning if they truly are more talented. For example, in basketball, a shitty referee can only do so much to keep a team from winning if they are that much better. Same goes for baseball, football, etc. Activities like gymnastics however, are solely dependent on a judges ruling/interpretation of what is happening. Obviously there are certain attributes and qualifiers that judges are looking for, and there is a certain degree of consistency involved in such decisions, but that wasn't the point that I was getting at.
You missed the point on all 3 accounts.
1. i know what exception means. i'm asking why golf is the exception to the rule? you also stated that you thought bowling was a sport, also making it an exception. my point is, what makes those sports when they don't adhere to your guideline? how are they different than cheerleading? if that's a standard you have, that's fine. but how are golf and bowling exempt from that rule over an activity that requires far more athletic ability and actually requires a team? just doesn't make any sense to me.
2. good job expanding your point. it makes zero sense. how is cheerleading not a recreational sport? people involved in it practice on their own time in their backyard as much as anybody in any other sport. i'd say it's far more recreational than a sport like hockey, just because it's more accessible.
4. human error plays a role in every sport. whether it entirely decides who wins or loses or not, it exists in every sport.
it sounds like what you're arguing is more that cheerleading isn't a "game." which i'll give you that, it isn't. but it's definitely a sport. and cheerleaders are athletes.
Spicoli hey bud
10/13/08, 04:07 PM
1. i know what exception means. i'm asking why golf is the exception to the rule? you also stated that you thought bowling was a sport, also making it an exception. my point is, what makes those sports when they don't adhere to your guideline? how are they different than cheerleading? if that's a standard you have, that's fine. but how are golf and bowling exempt from that rule over an activity that requires far more athletic ability and actually requires a team? just doesn't make any sense to me.
The point of having an exception to a rule is that you concede that it doesn't fall into the conventional classifications that have been set forth. If I had a clear reason, I would have added another rule.
2. good job expanding your point. it makes zero sense. how is cheerleading not a recreational sport? people involved in it practice on their own time in their backyard as much as anybody in any other sport. i'd say it's far more recreational than a sport like hockey, just because it's more accessible. While I disagree that it is more of a recreational sport than hockey, I have already conceded the notion of "practice" in my original post. This is the only argument of yours that I don't completely disagree with.
4. human error plays a role in every sport. whether it entirely decides who wins or loses or not, it exists in every sport. This just furthers my point.
I laid it out in 2 distinct categories...
a) There is a game in which the play is "regulated" by officials..
b) there is a competition in which the officials are the sole decision makers in the competitions outcome.
That is how I qualified my rule.
it sounds like what you're arguing is more that cheerleading isn't a "game." which i'll give you that, it isn't. but it's definitely a sport. and cheerleaders are athletes. Like I said before, it's not like I'm inventing a universal rule for what constitutes a sport. Clearly we disagree over whether cheerleading is a sport, however I am not willing to say that it is a sport based on the ideas/rules/qualifications that I set forth in my original post.
duhpunk
10/13/08, 04:24 PM
competition =/= sport
in my opinion, a sport is when the two opposing sides are on the field of play at the same time, directly affecting each other's outcome.
golf, bowling, cheerleading, most track events...all competitions
baseball, football, basketball, soccer, boxing, hockey...all sports
Spicoli hey bud
10/13/08, 04:26 PM
competition =/= sport
in my opinion, a sport is when the two opposing sides are on the field of play at the same time, directly affecting each other's outcome.
golf, bowling, cheerleading, most track events...all competitions
baseball, football, basketball, soccer, boxing, hockey...all sports
This was my Rule 1.... I think there is a little more to it than just that though.
sex with cheerleaders is more of a sport than cheerleading
1. your efforts directly affect the other- pass
2. physical activity- pass
3. can be done anywhere- pass
4. human error doesn't end one's chances- pass. unless you have a limp dick
...no
Indoor Living
11/07/08, 08:17 AM
Not a sport. If that's the argument at hand.
we are cured
11/07/08, 08:24 AM
competition cheerleading can be pretty intense.
Competition cheerleading is definitely a sport. i've been watching my little sister cheer ever since she was old enough. and the competitiveness and intensity in cheerleading can exceed several other sports. plus cheerleading is as much of a team effort as anything, (which i know doesn't exactly qualify it to be a sport, since there are individual sports) but in tons of sports this is a huge factor.
As far as the judging goes, if that was a qualifier than we have to consider a bunch of olympic "activities" not sports either, in addition to other sports like bodybuilding, the x-games, etc.
Brooklyn2010
11/07/08, 08:33 AM
I say it's not a sport. I put it in the same category as dance or certain kinds of gymnastics. Because even though they all have competition levels, since they are scored by judges or a point system, and not by keeping score back and forth between two teams, it just makes it a competition.
caLLmEnOoNe
11/07/08, 08:36 AM
I say it's not a sport. I put it in the same category as dance or certain kinds of gymnastics. Because even though they all have competition levels, since they are scored by judges or a point system, and not by keeping score back and forth between two teams, it just makes it a competition.
agreed
xbrokendownx
11/07/08, 08:43 AM
ohhh this thread could get me into trouble
I say it's not a sport. I put it in the same category as dance or certain kinds of gymnastics. Because even though they all have competition levels, since they are scored by judges or a point system, and not by keeping score back and forth between two teams, it just makes it a competition.
if those aren't sports should they be considered art? b/c these are the only kinds of sports where creativity is truly encouraged.
Brooklyn2010
11/07/08, 08:51 AM
if those aren't sports should they be considered art? b/c these are the only kinds of sports where creativity is truly encouraged.
That's a good point! I've been a dancer my whole life basically, and I do consider it art. Maybe they are all in a category of their own..? I'd say they are because I'd take expression and creativity over sports, or even winning a competition any day.
FondestMemory
11/07/08, 03:47 PM
wsomebodyobumputhislthreadd in two years.
kshtoinks12
11/07/08, 04:08 PM
Haha, creative.
thesafeword
11/08/08, 12:22 AM
speaking of cheerleading were your guy's highschool's cheerleading squad ugly? There's like one decent looking chick on there and everything else is disgusting. The Dance Team/Soccer team is where its at.
We only have 3 good ones. Soccer team is fucking sexy as a whole, minus 3 or 4 girs and our volleyball team is pretty nice as well.
not small
Lol, how can everyone let that one slip?
mmm still love this hahahaaha
Sports are not judged (football, bowling, golf).
Competitions are judged (cheerleading, figure skating, gymnastics).
It's matter of nomenclature, not a reflection on which is better. Christ, could it get any clearer?
HelpMeSleep
02/21/09, 09:40 AM
I miss cheerleading a little bit.
Himynameisjesh
02/22/09, 02:29 PM
speaking of cheerleading were your guy's highschool's cheerleading squad ugly? There's like one decent looking chick on there and everything else is disgusting. The Dance Team/Soccer team is where its at.
nah my school's cheerleaders are hot. except for a couple are kinda ugly. And one is fat...dont know how she got there :-|
Chris_Pont
02/22/09, 11:08 PM
The only sporting activity cheerleaders are involved in is them sucking the dick of the starting quaterback, varsity forward and soccer captain. GET FUCKED.
HelpMeSleep
02/22/09, 11:10 PM
The only sporting activity cheerleaders are involved in is them sucking the dick of the starting quaterback, varsity forward and soccer captain. GET FUCKED.
perhaps you should get fucked. if you even can.
nah my school's cheerleaders are hot. except for a couple are kinda ugly. And one is fat...dont know how she got there :-|
seems like another victim of political correctness to me
Chris_Pont
02/22/09, 11:13 PM
perhaps you should get fucked. if you even can.
You down baby girl? I can give you a straight raw ass fucking.
HelpMeSleep
02/22/09, 11:20 PM
You down baby girl? I can give you a straight raw ass fucking.
not into ass fucking. plus I'm a former high school cheerleader, so I doubt I'd be into you unless you were the captain of some team. your words, of course.
readyfredi
02/22/09, 11:27 PM
not in her case
hahahah....
xbrokendownx
02/23/09, 07:12 AM
You down baby girl? I can give you a straight raw ass fucking.
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ESundy36
02/24/09, 04:23 PM
this is going to turn out well.
Great avatar/best Conan skit ever.
samsara
02/24/09, 04:28 PM
bahaha I think its a sport but most cheerleaders i knew in high school didnt take it seriously.
lovelyfiction
02/26/09, 04:52 PM
it's a highly athletic activity, for sure. i cheered for a season, and i hated it. mostly because it ate up my life. i just don't think it's a sport. because it's judged.
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