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OKComputer1016
10/19/08, 11:53 AM
Smoking Popes – Stay Down
Record Label: Curb Appeal
Release Date: August 5, 2008

As a huge fan of Alkaline Trio, I’ve heard the name ‘Smoking Popes’ about a million times around the Windy City, which is the place where both bands (as well as your humble narrator) hail from. I went to a Popes show this summer on a recommendation, and ever since then I’ve been constantly spinning their debut Born to Quit. Well, just in time, the guys have returned with Stay Down, and through the years they’ve lost none of what makes them such a compelling listen. 13 years and five albums in, the Popes sound like they’ve got at least as much youthful angst as most youthful people.

As always, the Smoking Popes’ songwriting shines because of interesting guitar progressions that don’t usually go where you think they will. Each song seems like there’s a pretty cliche route it could go down, but they all manage to steer clear. It’s probably because of the really heartfelt lyrics and earnest vocal delivery that ballads like “Stefanie” manage to stay un-cheesy. You can bet you’ll see lighters waving in the audience, and sure, you could call this the Bon Jovi track of the album…but neither of those facts outweigh the fact that it’s just a good song, even if you can’t really explain why.

For the most part, Stay Down follows one logical focus from start to finish, and that’s the vaguely-punk-mostly-rock-pop blend that could be considered their signature sound. Indeed, despite the punk branding the Popes will go down in history with, most of these tracks could be best described as ‘alternative’, and ought to dominate hometown alt radio stations like Q101. “Little Jane-Marie” is a great example of this, and also one of the most quotable songs the Popes have written: “I’ll bring you a bucket filled with fallen stars and you can eat them with a spoon”. That sounds pretty sweet, even if I don’t completely understand it.

Since this is an album of romantic reflection, the acoustic closer “First Time” is a nice touch. It’s also yet another trick that Alkaline Trio picked up from these guys – you’ve got to end with the most heart-on-sleeve piece of music you’ve got in you. The vocals, the melodies, the entire package: there’d be no Alk3 without the Popes, and I feel like that fact enough is reason for you to check this shit out.

While this is no Goddamnit on the scale of boys night out rock, it’s punk enough for you, romantic enough for your girlfriend, and mellow enough for your mom. Stay Down has most of its bases covered. It’s pretty slow, sure, but it’s so catchy you’ll forget all about the tempo.

Don’t Believe Me?
www.myspace.com/smokingpopes (http://www.myspace.com/smokingpopes)

Recommended If You Like:
Alkaline Trio, Bayside, Mr. T Experience

Mochem
10/19/08, 12:17 PM
Destination Failure is one of my favorite albums of all time. I've been meaning to check this out since it was released and just haven't gotten around to buying it for whatever reason.

newfoundmichael
10/19/08, 12:27 PM
"As a huge fan of Alkaline Trio, I’ve heard the name ‘Smoking Popes’ about a million times around the Windy City, which is the place where both bands (as well as your humble narrator) hail from."

I really really hope that was A Clockwork Orange reference.

OKComputer1016
10/19/08, 12:52 PM
haha well thats my all time favorite movie, so maybe subconsciously i stole a line from it, i'm not sure. you know, that scene where Alex goes to Chicago. and listens to Alkaline Trio

ACA
10/19/08, 12:53 PM
Don't like the interview. It sounds heavily "researched" and I don't feel like you have any idea about this band. It reaks of looked up facts that you just threw in to sound important. And you're throwing obscenities into your review too for some reason?

Born to Quit isn't their debut. They only really have four studio albums.

You hardly even touch on the actual album. You mention Alkaline Trio over and over.. and who the hell abbreviates them AK3?

Shitty job.

(Not trying to attack YOU, but your review. I feel like any negativity towards someone's writing is always taken as an act of hate on this site.)

newfoundmichael
10/19/08, 01:01 PM
yeah that's almost as good as the scene where he watches the chariot on halloween at a shitty venue in danville...oh wait, i think that may be a personal experience.

Matthew Tsai
10/19/08, 01:28 PM
Don't like the interview. It sounds heavily "researched" and I don't feel like you have any idea about this band. It reaks of looked up facts that you just threw in to sound important. And you're throwing obscenities into your review too for some reason?

Born to Quit isn't their debut. They only really have four studio albums.

You hardly even touch on the actual album. You mention Alkaline Trio over and over.. and who the hell abbreviates them AK3?

Shitty job.

(Not trying to attack YOU, but your review. I feel like any negativity towards someone's writing is always taken as an act of hate on this site.)

i do and i'm not in hell. that's good enough reason for him to use the abbreviation AK3 because it connects with certain readers.

i think it's a good review. an album like this is just pop-punk-ish stuff, from the sound of it. you can't really go in depth about a pretty much surface level fun record. but i dunno, i haven't really listened to this album.

mr chainsaw
10/19/08, 01:41 PM
i do and i'm not in hell. that's good enough reason for him to use the abbreviation AK3 because it connects with certain readers.

i think it's a good review. an album like this is just pop-punk-ish stuff, from the sound of it. you can't really go in depth about a pretty much surface level fun record. but i dunno, i haven't really listened to this album.


The correct abbreviation for Alkaline Trio is Alk3.

Mochem
10/19/08, 02:30 PM
an album like this is just pop-punk-ish stuff, from the sound of it. you can't really go in depth about a pretty much surface level fun record. but i dunno, i haven't really listened to this album.
Judging by their other albums (mainly Destination Failure), it's not just fun pop-punk-ish stuff. I mean, they do make some fun pop-punk-ish songs, but their lyrics can be really emotional or relatable and they have some of the best bass lines of their genre in my opinion. There's a lot going on lyrically and musically in their songs.
But I haven't really listened to the album either. So maybe that makes my opinion moot.

reissgoespunk
10/19/08, 02:59 PM
The correct abbreviation for Alkaline Trio is Alk3.

Yep.

OKComputer1016
10/19/08, 03:06 PM
um yeah but not really. i pretty much mentioned how i just heard of them, and am pleased to find that they laid the ground work for a band that i really like, alkaline trio. researched? what could possibly be researched? i put that i like their first album, this album is slower but i like it as well. jeez tear me to pieces.

OKComputer1016
10/19/08, 03:11 PM
ps it's called a review, not an interview, if i'm gonna go and pick your shit apart. AMG said that Born to Quit was the debut and i was under the impression that that was true, it's definitely the first one i heard and it was the cd i compared this one to. what would i have looked up to sound important? and i mention alkaline trio because their a little more popular right now, so i'm relating it to them.

thefoldsays
10/19/08, 04:52 PM
Get Fired was their first studio album, but it was never released on anything but a small Chicago label called johans face records. Easy mistake. This is one of my all time fave bands, I'm ashamed of myself for missing the record release at metro. I gotta pick this up right away, thanks for the reminder.

One more thing, I adore the new Bayside CD, but me and my girl have to laugh to ourselves every time we hear certain parts of that cd. Granted, I see it more as a tribute to their lesser known heroes at this point than anything else, but they should have just had Josh from the popes guest on it. All that to say I love all 3 (alk3 too) and there's plenty of room in my heart for all of them as they all have very unique strengths, IMHO.

Chris Fallon
10/19/08, 06:39 PM
I'm a longtime Popes fan, and love this release -- bit more positive, seeing that Josh has gone through a transformation in his life, and it shows in his new melodic treatments.

This album and Shudder (Bayside) remind me of one another, and I agree with Dan from the Fold that the similarities are simply in the tone of the vocals haha.

One of the better surprises of the year -- I didn't even know this was coming out until a week before the release.

buttons
10/19/08, 07:18 PM
Judging by their other albums (mainly Destination Failure), it's not just fun pop-punk-ish stuff. I mean, they do make some fun pop-punk-ish songs, but their lyrics can be really emotional or relatable and they have some of the best bass lines of their genre in my opinion. There's a lot going on lyrically and musically in their songs.

looove the beginning of can't find it.

destination failure is such a bomb album. my dad got me into the smoking popes, actually. haha

mr chainsaw
10/19/08, 07:25 PM
Get Fired was their first studio album, but it was never released on anything but a small Chicago label called johans face records. Easy mistake. This is one of my all time fave bands, I'm ashamed of myself for missing the record release at metro. I gotta pick this up right away, thanks for the reminder.

One more thing, I adore the new Bayside CD, but me and my girl have to laugh to ourselves every time we hear certain parts of that cd. Granted, I see it more as a tribute to their lesser known heroes at this point than anything else, but they should have just had Josh from the popes guest on it. All that to say I love all 3 (alk3 too) and there's plenty of room in my heart for all of them as they all have very unique strengths, IMHO.

The CD release show was so good. Neil Hennessy really tore up the drums for the Popes at the show. Plus Sundowner was awesome.

I also thought the new Bayside sounded like it was paying respects to the Smoking Popes.

EchoPark
10/20/08, 05:13 AM
Top album.Top Review.Top Band.

246toothpicks
10/20/08, 07:45 AM
love the smoking popes - destination failure is def in my top albums ever. not many bands can pick up right from where they left off 10 years later. great album!

brodycomic
01/18/09, 03:54 PM
I know at least one person on here mentioned Get Fired, but I'm always deeply disappointed when supposed fans of the Popes don't know this album. Yeah, it's hard to find. But it is FAR AND AWAY their best album. Utter classic. Maybe it's because it's the first one I ever heard by them, but all other albums pale in comparison to it.