Last few weeks before election

[jusscali]

As the final stretch of the campaign nears, I was just curious if someone of you would mind lending me some of your knowledge. I know everyone does a great job watching and waiting, but I'm more curious as to what you all think

There has been a slight shift in the battleground states - what are the big areas at this point? Where should the campaigns focus their resources and attention? What are the most important or essential voting blocks the candidates should or need to address?

What are the major talking points (more so Obama) as we head into this final stretch? What in your opinion should be added or dropped?

In general, if you were to run Obama's campaign, what would you opt to do towards the end of this run in order to ensure independent and undecided voters? Who would you want out there campaigning, where would you want to see them? What issues or points should Obama focus on.

Any and all information or opinion you guys could offer would be fantastic.
Also, if you utilize any great sites to gather the latest information, please feel free to leave them in here.

[saysmydoctor]

Obama just needs to remain consistent. Focus some campaigning in the south and Florida. Have the VP in Colorado and the west, get Clinton Missouri, get someone in Montana.

[Machu505]

If McCain really wants to win this, he needs one consistent argument. Also he needs to get his forces the fuck out of hard red or hard blue states and focus on swing states.

[Machu505]

McCain should fake a terrorist attack. One of the only ways in his control I could see him winning.

Or that.

[Adeniz19]

CNN (http://thepage.time.com/john-king-on-cnn/) reports that top officials of Sen. John McCain's campaign are "making tough decisions" as they now see Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa no longer winnable.

Instead, the campaign's "risky strategy" is counting on Florida, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, and a comeback in Pennsylvania.

The McCain campaign responds (http://thepage.time.com/2008/10/20/king-of-the-world-says-mccain-pretty-much-giving-up-on-colorado/): "We see the race tightening both internally and in public polling. We are within striking distance in the key battleground states we need to win."


This is huge. He's already backed out of Michigan, and now IA, NM and CO? 3 states that went to Bush last election. McCain is really cutting it close especially if he is heavily relying on PA to turn in his favor. That's the only way he can win it now if he concedes those other 3 states.

[Machu505]

CNN (http://thepage.time.com/john-king-on-cnn/) reports that top officials of Sen. John McCain's campaign are "making tough decisions" as they now see Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa no longer winnable.

Instead, the campaign's "risky strategy" is counting on Florida, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, and a comeback in Pennsylvania.

The McCain campaign responds (http://thepage.time.com/2008/10/20/king-of-the-world-says-mccain-pretty-much-giving-up-on-colorado/): "We see the race tightening both internally and in public polling. We are within striking distance in the key battleground states we need to win."


This is huge. He's already backed out of Michigan, and now IA, NM and CO? 3 states that went to Bush last election. McCain is really cutting it close especially if he is heavily relying on PA to turn in his favor. That's the only way he can win it now if he concedes those other 3 states.

2nd biggest mistake for the McCain campaign. He won't win Pennsylvania and he just put the nails in the coffin.

[Adeniz19]

2nd biggest mistake for the McCain campaign. He won't win Pennsylvania and he just put the nails in the coffin.It really makes no sense. He needs CO a lot more then he needs PA

[Machu505]

It really makes no sense. He needs CO a lot more then he needs PA

The smart thing to do is ignore Pennsylvania and focus on Nevada, Colorado, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, N. Carolina, and Florida. If Obama wins one of those, he takes the election, and he currently leads in all but Indiana.

[jusscali]

What are the major talking points that should be driven home though. A lot of people suggest Obama seems to have more of a handle over the economy - should he continue to ride this out till the end? Continue to drive home the Bush/McCain connection? What do you feel are the major points he needs to drive home?

Major voting blocks? or other battleground areas that should be considered?

[jusscali]

I really appreciate all your input though.

[jusscali]

I guess I'm trying to see how people would break out of the traditional campaign mold. You've only got a few weeks left. What do you have your candidate talk about, and to what degree. What supporters endorsers do you send to what areas and why? New advertisements? Events? How would you sell your candidate if you were the one calling the shots. (either candidate at this point).

[Machu505]

At this point, Obama really just needs to run out the clock and stay the course. The McCain camp will just destroy itself.

Battleground States:

NV
CO
MO
IN
OH
WV
VA
NC
FL

[Praetor]

I don't see Obama winning Indiana.

[jusscali]

At this point, Obama really just needs to run out the clock and stay the course. The McCain camp will just destroy itself.

Battleground States:

NV
CO
MO
IN
OH
WV
VA
NC
FL

wow is that all of them? I was unaware how much they had swayed towards democrat. Are their any other states more up in the air (perhaps light blue lol) than just the all blue and all red suggest?

[Machu505]

I don't see Obama winning Indiana.

I don't see him winning that or N. Carolina.

[jusscali]

Do you guys feel as though utilizing Powell in the remaining weeks would be a good choice (even as a hypothetical) ?

[Machu505]

wow is that all of them? I was unaware how much they had swayed towards democrat. Are their any other states more up in the air (perhaps light blue lol) than just the all blue and all red suggest?

N. Dakota, Georgia, and Montana are the only red states (other than what I mentioned) that could end up blue at this point. All three of those are unlikely though.

[Machu505]

Do you guys feel as though utilizing Powell in the remaining weeks would be a good choice (even as a hypothetical) ?

Yes.

[jusscali]

Hmm interesting. Within the remaining swing states, what regions/areas are of most concern at this point? Any particular demographics that need to be addressed more thoroughly in your eyes?

[Adeniz19]

Do you guys feel as though utilizing Powell in the remaining weeks would be a good choice (even as a hypothetical) ?
I don't see how it could hurt. It gives Obama credibility, not only in becoming Commander in Chief, but also being able to try to unite this country, no matter what party you are for.

[Praetor]

Do you guys feel as though utilizing Powell in the remaining weeks would be a good choice (even as a hypothetical) ?
Absolutely, Powell and his recent endorsement embodies everything that the McCain camp criticizes Obama for not having (experience, foreign policy credentials, reaching across party lines, etc.)

[Machu505]

Hmm interesting. Within the remaining swing states, what regions/areas are of most concern at this point? Any particular demographics that need to be addressed more thoroughly in your eyes?

Obama needs to try and get the independents with Colin Powell. Northern Virginia could sway the state for Obama, and Powell could help him do that.

[Praetor]

A lot of people look up to and respect Colin Powell, and not just conservatives, either. His endorsement is probably the most important of this election.

[jusscali]

I definitely agree with that.

Are there any other Dems or supporters of Obama you'd like to see utilized more effectively (again a hypothetical)? Where would you like to see them and what do you think they offer the ticket?

[jusscali]

Again, thanks for opinions guys, if anyone else would like to address any of the questions within the thread to whatever degree they feel is necessary, then by all means...

Where do you guys find the bulk of your political information? Who do you trust the most?

[Machu505]

I definitely agree with that.

Are there any other Dems or supporters of Obama you'd like to see utilized more effectively (again a hypothetical)? Where would you like to see them and what do you think they offer the ticket?

We need a whole lotta Bill and Hillary Clinton out there. They appeal to the working class more than Obama does.

[Praetor]

People endorsing the candidate of the party they belong to (ie a democrat endorsing a democrat, a republican endorsing a republican) is pretty much useless at this point. I think voters are more interested in who is willing to reach across party lines to kind of go against the grain and endorse the candidate who they think will lead the country best.

[jusscali]

I can definitely see why your argument is valid, but do you not see where (for example) Bill and Hilary have a better working class reach than Obama does (we are thinking about bringing in independents here)?

[jusscali]

Do you personally feel as though Hillary pooled her supporters rigorously enough for Obama and the Dem party? I know she addressed it at the convention, and at some stops along the way, but I feel she could have been far more direct. Is that something that is needed at this point - most importantly towards middle aged women who were in support of Hillary?

[apoemtothedead]

Obama will be President when the polls close on the west coast.

[loveisdead]

The remaining swing states that are feasible wins for Obama are Virginia NC West Virginia Missouri and Indiana. The fact that the GOP has to fight for these states is pathetic and says a lot about the way McCain has run his campaign. Right now if the map stays the way it is, McCain can win Virginia NC Florida and Pennsylvania and still lose the election, making this essentially out of reach for him.

Obama needs to ride the wave that's gotten him this far ahead. Keep talking about the economy and not resort to negative attacks. Tying McCain to Bush has been helping him all campaign so at this time of economic crisis it's more important than ever.

If I'm running Obama's campaign I send Biden to Pennsylvania one more time to try and solidify those working class voters. Hillary and Bill would do him well in campaigning in Virginia and West Virginia because Hillary has a lot of support in those areas. They already went to Florida once so I'm not sure they'll end up back there again. Hillary did her job along with Bill. Obama needs to extend a huge thank you to both of them.

Powell was a huge endorsement but he has said he isn't going out to campaign with Obama. Obama should just talk about what he said about the McCain campaign and why Powell thinks Obama is the better president.

[apoemtothedead]

The remaining swing states that are feasible wins for Obama are Virginia NC West Virginia Missouri and Indiana. The fact that the GOP has to fight for these states is pathetic and says a lot about the way McCain has run his campaign. Right now if the map stays the way it is, McCain can win Virginia NC Florida and Pennsylvania and still lose the election, making this essentially out of reach for him.

Obama needs to ride the wave that's gotten him this far ahead. Keep talking about the economy and not resort to negative attacks. Tying McCain to Bush has been helping him all campaign so at this time of economic crisis it's more important than ever.

If I'm running Obama's campaign I send Biden to Pennsylvania one more time to try and solidify those working class voters. Hillary and Bill would do him well in campaigning in Virginia and West Virginia because Hillary has a lot of support in those areas. They already went to Florida once so I'm not sure they'll end up back there again. Hillary did her job along with Bill. Obama needs to extend a huge thank you to both of them.

Powell was a huge endorsement but he has said he isn't going out to campaign with Obama. Obama should just talk about what he said about the McCain campaign and why Powell thinks Obama is the better president.
Pennsylvania is beyond out of reach for McCain camp.

[loveisdead]

Pennsylvania is beyond out of reach for McCain camp.
Too many electoral votes to not make sure we get one more stop in there.

[apoemtothedead]

Too many electoral votes to not make sure we get one more stop in there.
It's better to focus the energy on Ohio, Virgina and Florida. I think it's very possible that the Obama camp can win 2 of 3, so even if by some miracle McCain pulls out Pennsylvania, the electoral votes from those states will cancel out the loss of PA.

[loveisdead]

It's better to focus the energy on Ohio, Virgina and Florida. I think it's very possible that the Obama camp can win 2 of 3, so even if by some miracle McCain pulls out Pennsylvania, the electoral votes from those states will cancel out the loss of PA.
Like I said, he could lose all the states you just listed and still win the election. I want Obama, Biden, Hillary and Bill to make at least one more stop in each of those states, including Penn. Don't count any states out.

[jusscali]

Either way, both argument's are fine. It's a matter of opinion as to where you would choose to utilize your resources and time.

[jusscali]

If there was 48 hours left before the actual election (discluding early ballots) what would your big game plans include then? Only so much you can do in that amount of time.

[loveisdead]

If there was 48 hours left before the actual election (discluding early ballots) what would your big game plans include then? Only so much you can do in that amount of time.
If I'm Obama and things are the way they are now, I would just give a speech saying that people need to actually get out and vote.

[apoemtothedead]

If there was 48 hours left before the actual election (discluding early ballots) what would your big game plans include then? Only so much you can do in that amount of time.
With 48 hours left: PA, IA, FL, OH, VA, NC, IN, MI, CO

[jusscali]

If I'm Obama and things are the way they are now, I would just give a speech saying that people need to actually get out and vote.

Well I think thats a great issue - what are some ideas as to how to get these people to get out and vote? What can be done, who can be used? and Where?

I think they are trying very hard to gather an early ballot in Florida as we speak

[jusscali]

With 48 hours left: PA, IA, FL, OH, VA, NC, IN, MI, CO

But in those states, what areas/counties - what main points or messages need to be driven home and to what demographics of people?

I'm just trying to get as much out of this as possible

[loveisdead]

I have the Clintons and Biden try to address the working class voters. Obama just needs to solidify his base and keep saying what he has been in an attempt to pick up some last minute undecided and independent voters.

[apoemtothedead]

But in those states, what areas/counties - what main points or messages need to be driven home and to what demographics of people?

I'm just trying to get as much out of this as possible
PA, IA, MI, CO: Reminding/encouraging people to go out and vote
FL, OH, VA, NC, IN: Substance based speeches still trying to win over the portion of voters that make up their mind in the last 48 hours.

[loveisdead]

Well I think thats a great issue - what are some ideas as to how to get these people to get out and vote? What can be done, who can be used? and Where?

I think they are trying very hard to gather an early ballot in Florida as we speak
Obama's ability to raise money has been his biggest asset. If I'm him I would run a ton of ads that end with saying "get out and vote." In his speeches he needs to hammer down how incredibly important this election is compared to the past few elections. Two wars, a troubling economy, shitty environment and a fucked up healthcare system just to start.

[jusscali]

Obama's ability to raise money has been his biggest asset. If I'm him I would run a ton of ads that end with saying "get out and vote." In his speeches he needs to hammer down how incredibly important this election is compared to the past few elections. Two wars, a troubling economy, shitty environment and a fucked up healthcare system just to start.

I think the ads are a great idea, especially with all those funds recently raised.

[jusscali]

PA, IA, MI, CO: Reminding/encouraging people to go out and vote
FL, OH, VA, NC, IN: Substance based speeches still trying to win over the portion of voters that make up their mind in the last 48 hours.

Any progressive ideas on how to mobilize and encourage the votes?

[loveisdead]

I think the ads are a great idea, especially with all those funds recently raised.
Absolutely. I don't want them to be attacking McCain. They simply need to say go out and vote because this election is far too important.

[jusscali]

Yeah, negativity has already hurt McCain enough in this election

[loveisdead]

I think the fact that there are no major events left (debates and such) really signal a McCain loss barring something crazy happening.

[jusscali]

Well I mean you bring up events - sponsored events with particular organizations and groups are also important...any ideas there?

[HashHolly]

Mark my words, Obama will win Florida

[jusscali]

That doesn't really help me ahahha but consider the words marked

[loveisdead]

Well I mean you bring up events - sponsored events with particular organizations and groups are also important...any ideas there?
I don't think he has to do that. At this point I think he should honestly just ride it out. Keep campaigning and pounding down the economy and McBush.

[Lueda Alia]

How nervous are people that something will go wrong?
On a scale from 1 to 100? 99.99.

[loveisdead]

How nervous are people that something will go wrong?
It's so far out of reach for McCain at this point. I'm not at all nervous.

[loveisdead]

On a scale from 1 to 100? 99.99.
What makes you nervous about it? There hasn't really been evidence to suggest that something will go wrong with the election.

[Machu505]

How nervous are people that something will go wrong?

Wrong as in voter fraud or wrong as in October surprise?

[jusscali]

I'm kinda nervous, but that's why these measures or ideas are very important to closing this one out

Eda any insight into any of the proposed questions thus far?

[Lueda Alia]

What makes you nervous about it? There hasn't really been evidence to suggest that something will go wrong with the election.
We might get to see yet another tape from our friend Bin Laden 1 week before the election.

Did I mention that that the election could easily be stolen?

[jusscali]

Wwjtd

[Lueda Alia]

I'm kinda nervous, but that's why these measures or ideas are very important to closing this one out

Eda any insight into any of the proposed questions thus far?
I pretty much agree with what has been said already, hence why I haven't replied. If you ask any questions though, I will answer this time. :-d

[jusscali]

Hahha my bad.

I guess people have stated the obvious, but I was looking more on the creative/progressive end of things - perhaps a little more detail. It's been good at this point.

[loveisdead]

We might get to see yet another tape from our friend Bin Laden 1 week before the election.

Did I mention that that the election could easily be stolen?
If we do then I think that could work in Obama's favor if he uses it the right way. McCain has said he "knows how to capture Osama Bin Laden." If Bin Laden does release another tape Obama can attack him for that.

[jusscali]

Guys, I don't know if you know this...but...I know how to win wars. I also know how to get caught and imprisoned...really, really good at that.

[Lueda Alia]

If we do then I think that could work in Obama's favor if he uses it the right way. McCain has said he "knows how to capture Osama Bin Laden." If Bin Laden does release another tape Obama can attack him for that.
Yeah but how many people will be scared into voting for Mr. Foreign Policy Experience?

[Lueda Alia]

Guys, I don't know if you know this...but...I know how to win wars. I also know how to get caught and imprisoned...really, really good at that.
Haha what he says just doesn't make any sense. If he knows how to catch Bin Laden, then where has he been all these years?

[loveisdead]

Yeah but how many people will be scared into voting for Mr. Foreign Policy Experience?
I think the way around that is saying what I said, going over his support for going into Iraq and bringing up how Biden is the chairman of the foreign relations committee.

[Lueda Alia]

Same. I've only been following politics the last two elections and what they've taught me is the GOP always has a few tricks up their sleeve.
They do. Each time.

[Lueda Alia]

I think the way around that is saying what I said, going over his support for going into Iraq and bringing up how Biden is the chairman of the foreign relations committee.
That will only make sense to people who think logically.

[jusscali]

Haha what he says just doesn't make any sense. If he knows how to catch Bin Laden, then where has he been all these years?

You need to see the Olbermann rant if you have not yet.

[loveisdead]

Same. I've only been following politics the last two elections and what they've taught me is the GOP always has a few tricks up their sleeve.
McCain has said he has Obama right where he wants him. 11 points down.

[loveisdead]

You need to see the Olbermann rant if you have not yet.
Haha, you're welcome for showing you that. He did an incredible job with that.

[jusscali]

I guess I was more or less looking for a hypothetical itinerary for the last 3 days/48 hours of the campaign....I know what they have been doing, but I was more concerned with what people within the forum would do - concerning all of the topics I've inquired about thus far

[open mind]

voter purges and hacked voting machines aside this should be an easy obama win......unless mccain and palin emerge from a cave holding osama bin ladens still beating heart in thier hands during the next week or so.

[jusscali]

Let's just pretend for all intents and purposes that instead of an 11/10 point lead, Obama has a 2-3 point lead in the polls. Then how do you act? I think that's how Obama should be treating this. Not just sit back

[loveisdead]

I guess I was more or less looking for a hypothetical itinerary for the last 3 days/48 hours of the campaign....I know what they have been doing, but I was more concerned with what people within the forum would do - concerning all of the topics I've inquired about thus far

Obama just needs to remain consistent. Focus some campaigning in the south and Florida. Have the VP in Colorado and the west, get Clinton Missouri, get someone in Montana.

The smart thing to do is ignore Pennsylvania and focus on Nevada, Colorado, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, N. Carolina, and Florida. If Obama wins one of those, he takes the election, and he currently leads in all but Indiana.

Obama needs to try and get the independents with Colin Powell. Northern Virginia could sway the state for Obama, and Powell could help him do that.

We need a whole lotta Bill and Hillary Clinton out there. They appeal to the working class more than Obama does.

The remaining swing states that are feasible wins for Obama are Virginia NC West Virginia Missouri and Indiana. The fact that the GOP has to fight for these states is pathetic and says a lot about the way McCain has run his campaign. Right now if the map stays the way it is, McCain can win Virginia NC Florida and Pennsylvania and still lose the election, making this essentially out of reach for him.

Obama needs to ride the wave that's gotten him this far ahead. Keep talking about the economy and not resort to negative attacks. Tying McCain to Bush has been helping him all campaign so at this time of economic crisis it's more important than ever.

If I'm running Obama's campaign I send Biden to Pennsylvania one more time to try and solidify those working class voters. Hillary and Bill would do him well in campaigning in Virginia and West Virginia because Hillary has a lot of support in those areas. They already went to Florida once so I'm not sure they'll end up back there again. Hillary did her job along with Bill. Obama needs to extend a huge thank you to both of them.

Powell was a huge endorsement but he has said he isn't going out to campaign with Obama. Obama should just talk about what he said about the McCain campaign and why Powell thinks Obama is the better president.

It's better to focus the energy on Ohio, Virgina and Florida. I think it's very possible that the Obama camp can win 2 of 3, so even if by some miracle McCain pulls out Pennsylvania, the electoral votes from those states will cancel out the loss of PA.

PA, IA, MI, CO: Reminding/encouraging people to go out and vote
FL, OH, VA, NC, IN: Substance based speeches still trying to win over the portion of voters that make up their mind in the last 48 hours.

Obama's ability to raise money has been his biggest asset. If I'm him I would run a ton of ads that end with saying "get out and vote." In his speeches he needs to hammer down how incredibly important this election is compared to the past few elections. Two wars, a troubling economy, shitty environment and a fucked up healthcare system just to start.

I don't think he has to do that. At this point I think he should honestly just ride it out. Keep campaigning and pounding down the economy and McBush.

I think the way around that is saying what I said, going over his support for going into Iraq and bringing up how Biden is the chairman of the foreign relations committee.

It's all there for you.

[jusscali]

Fuck you Nicholsen - excuse me for wanting people to give me more, but thank you all nonetheless

[loveisdead]

Fuck you Nicholsen - excuse me for wanting people to give me more, but thank you all nonetheless
Then ask what more you want. Holy fuck.

[loveisdead]

I still think that in the next two weeks McCain and the GOP will pull something out, some kind of scandal, then they'll cheat like mafioso's on November 4th and scrape it leaving the democrats wondering what the fuck just happened (again).
They tried that with Ayers. I don't think it will happen. The negative tone of McCain's campaign has affected him enough as it is.

[Lueda Alia]

I forgot that you guys are friends.

[jusscali]

Hahah hardly friends - just radio cohosts and we both attend the worst school on the planet :)

We have a hate/hate type of friendship. The first party I ever went to freshman year we almost got a fight cause I told him that I thought YFW sucked, that Lacey was a cliche, whiny, pussy and that Where you want to be was a superior TBS album lol

[Lueda Alia]

Let's just pretend for all intents and purposes that instead of an 11/10 point lead, Obama has a 2-3 point lead in the polls. Then how do you act? I think that's how Obama should be treating this. Not just sit back
I would use my terrorist connections to figure out where Bin Laden is and catch him.

[Lueda Alia]

Hahah hardly friends - just radio cohosts and we both attend the worst school on the planet :)

We have a hate/hate type of friendship. The first party I ever went to freshman year we almost got a fight cause I told him that I thought YFW sucked, that Lacey was a cliche, whiny, pussy and that Where you want to be was a superior TBS album lol
Haha that's funny.

I don't like TBS.

[jusscali]

Regardless I apologize for prying...I have a very extensive paper/presentation to provide for next Wed. It includes turning in a binder with original ad copies, scripts for possible films, speech outlines and lists of important talking points, ideas for planned and special events etc. etc. The premise is what to do if you were Obama's campaign manager in the last 48 hours before the election. It's going to own me and I wanted to gather as much creative ideas as I could. It sucks we picked Obama cause McCain needs a big turn around but I need to work with what I've got.

[Lueda Alia]

I think you're over optimistic, I very much doubt based on past form they will sit back and lose they pathetically. They will go down fighting I'm sure.
With Sarah Palin leading the masses!

[jusscali]

Haha that's funny.

I don't like TBS.

Yeah he was a huge fan boy of Brand New and TBS (typical) and as much as I listened to them I figured I'd push the kids buttons cause I didn't take it as seriously as he did. It was fun. The premise of our show is basically to play similar music, but disagreeing more than half the time.

[loveisdead]

Hahah hardly friends - just radio cohosts and we both attend the worst school on the planet :)

We have a hate/hate type of friendship. The first party I ever went to freshman year we almost got a fight cause I told him that I thought YFW sucked, that Lacey was a cliche, whiny, pussy and that Where you want to be was a superior TBS album lol
Yeah but who ended up controlling the music that night? Me, bitch.

[loveisdead]

Yeah he was a huge fan boy of Brand New and TBS (typical) and as much as I listened to them I figured I'd push the kids buttons cause I didn't take it as seriously as he did. It was fun. The premise of our show is basically to play similar music, but disagreeing more than half the time.
Fuck you. Get ready I'm coming over :-p

[jusscali]

hahah that tongue thing makes you look super gay...

[jusscali]

If anyone has any other ideas to contribute it could potentially save my life and sanity within the next couple of days. For now, I'll be discussing politics over a few stiff drinks at the local bar. I'll have a penny draft for each and everyone of you and your assistance.

[loveisdead]

hahah that tongue thing makes you look super gay...
and the signifies the end of this thread. There will be a bump in the drunk thread tonight.

[Lueda Alia]

If anyone has any other ideas to contribute it could potentially save my life and sanity within the next couple of days. For now, I'll be discussing politics over a few stiff drinks at the local bar. I'll have a penny draft for each and everyone of you and your assistance.
Want to write my paper on Iraq for me? It's due tomorrow, and it's worth 30% of my mark!


Unlike you though, I know pretty much everything I want to say. I'm just too lazy to type it up!

[Lueda Alia]

and the signifies the end of this thread. There will be a bump in the drunk thread tonight.
You're drinking on a Tuesday?!


By the way, we should really have some sort of drinking game on November 4th. I wish I could have a real party here, but all of my friends have classes - as do I, except, I'm skipping! - so no one would really want to come over and drink. I have to settle for my e-friends, who are just as cool, of course.

[jusscali]

No I have an idea - I don't want people to do the assignment for me. I've got a group already, I just figured using this particular discussion as a guideline would please my lazy group members lol

[jusscali]

Penny drafts till 10, free wings at 11...I'll be beating Nicholsen at pool all night. The bartenders let us name the original shot every week. Any names?

[loveisdead]

You're drinking on a Tuesday?!


By the way, we should really have some sort of drinking game on November 4th. I wish I could have a real party here, but all of my friends have classes - as do I, except, I'm skipping! - so no one would really want to come over and drink. I have to settle for my e-friends, who are just as cool, of course.
Every Tuesday is penny drafts at the local bar. It's so worth to go out tonight and skip the other regular nights to save 20 bucks. Yeah we definitely can try and figure one out. If nothing else, I'm sure one will pop up online. And damn right they're just as cool.

[Lueda Alia]

Will be staying up election day no doubt.
You should be part of our game (if we do end up having one).

[jusscali]

Something anti McCain?

[loveisdead]

Penny drafts till 10, free wings at 11...I'll be beating Nicholsen at pool all night. The bartenders let us name the original shot every week. Any names?
Bring your itouch and we'll keep this thread open. I bet we get a ton of good names out of it.

[jusscali]

Leave already you FUCK, its gonna suck walking

[jusscali]

I doubt they have wireless internet at the bar...

[loveisdead]

Leave already you FUCK, its gonna suck walking
haha you said suck walking.

[jusscali]

So no names for shots...lame-o

[Lueda Alia]

What game?
I don't know yet. We'll make one up. Just make sure you have booze at home on November 4th!

[loveisdead]

Every swing state Obama wins you have to take a shot.

[jusscali]

So...

I've spent a long while looking at the Hilary wins during the primary season to see where those big votes are located. I've figured it would be good to campaign Bill and Hilary in Cleveland, Youngstown and Akron (she killed him in Youngstown and Akron, and Cleveland has a lot of Democrats that need some voting push). I'd have them do the same in PA (just to solidify Obama's current lead), another big win for Hilary in the primaries. Mainly in W. PA - Pittsburg as well as Erie.

For Virginia (that may or may not be a lock yet, but looks good for Obama) it seems that the northern sector of the state has done well for winning the state for Dems. Mainly sending out people to compaign in Alexandria, Arlington, as well as more central like Richmond (go figure).

I'm trying to lock into the major Hispanic populations of Colorado (1/5 total population, larger voting block than blacks) mainly in and around the urban sectors of Denver with a high population of mexicans. Nevada should see focus within the Clarke County - right within the area of Las Vegas (lots of votes). To this degree, I figured Henderson would work.

Florida would see an E/W cross trying to get Independents and S. Florida as well. Miami, Tampa and Daytona.

Still unsure about Indiana, Missouri and North Carolina...

Any ideas, or changes you think you'd make?

[saysmydoctor]

Virginia is a lock. NoVA is 1/3 of the state and then there is Richmond, Virginia Beach. Arlington, Falls Church, Alexandria = basically one fucking city.

North Carolina, he needs to go to the coast. Eastern Carolina is 1.5 million independents in my unprofessional opinion. Get to Havelock, Morehead, Jacksonville, Wilmington, New Bern. Hit the coastal population centers like those, and he can probably grab about half of the east coast.

[jusscali]

Virginia is a lock. NoVA is 1/3 of the state and then there is Richmond, Virginia Beach. Arlington, Falls Church, Alexandria = basically one fucking city.

North Carolina, he needs to go to the coast. Eastern Carolina is 1.5 million independents in my unprofessional opinion. Get to Havelock, Morehead, Jacksonville, Wilmington, New Bern. Hit the coastal population centers like those, and he can probably grab about half of the east coast.

Just because of the independents or any other particular reason? I knew where to start when it came to PA and OH, but wasn't particular sure on Missouri, Indiana or NC

[saysmydoctor]

Eastern Carolina has those population centers and then little beach towns--so upper class folks. But New Bern, Wilmington, Morehead are definite bastions of Obama support. Havelock and Jacksonville have the military bases so it's iffy, but I know Obama won Onslow County (Jacksonville) quite handily. We're talking a city with about 150,000 people in the area, along with 60,000 marines and assorted personnel on base. The airwing in Havelock is about--what, maybe 15,000 max?--these are counties he could win.

[incredulous]

I'm glad I don't live in a swing state. I was phone banking last week and one lady complained about getting inundated with calls about the election.

I can't wait for this election to be over.

[loveisdead]

I'm glad I don't live in a swing state. I was phone banking last week and one lady complained about getting inundated with calls about the election.

I can't wait for this election to be over.
This. One more week.

[salad fingers]

some red states are going blue. All I'm saying. :)


Mccain/Palin are in a blame game. And they are losing very sorely.

All Obama needs is either Colorado or Pennylvainia or Ohio, and he's got it. Good thing he is leading in all those states.

:D November fourth will be a happy, happy day.

EDIT: If the race did not have such a huge gap, I wouldn't trust those fucking republicans to not rig votes.

[loveisdead]

some red states are going blue. All I'm saying. :)


Mccain/Palin are in a blame game. And they are losing very sorely.

All Obama needs is either Colorado or Pennylvainia or Ohio, and he's got it. Good thing he is leading in all those states.

:D November fourth will be a happy, happy day.

EDIT: If the race did not have such a huge gap, I wouldn't trust those fucking republicans to not rig votes.
They already have been rigging and flipping votes. Not to mention stopping people from voting. Fuck first amendment rights.

[salad fingers]

Yeah, I like how the Florida governor made it near damn impossible for anyone to vote. Let's see, polls are only open on work days from 8am to 5pm? Oh come on, he's trying his absolute hardest to keep Dems from voting. Asshole.