Fan Reports In: Gatsbys, Circa, Bear

[Frank Giaramita]

Fan Reports In: "Tonight at Chain Reaction, Gatsby's American Dream (www.gatsbysamericandream.com) played songs from their upcomming record, Volcano, as well as only 2 or 3 older songs. Their entire set was about 20 minutes, which was terribly short considering they were the supposed headliners. It was a difficult show to enjoy; the vocals were very low (and quite horrid), and the crowd seemed uninterested for the most part. Anthony Green of Circa Survive (www.circasurvive.com) stood in the front bobbing his head and dancing in an effort to get people moving, but succeeded only in directing the attention of the crowd towards him.
This show easily belonged to Circa Survive and Bear vs. Shark (www.bearvsshark.com), both of which made this show worth going to. The better bands on this bill made Gatsby look truly ordinary, despite their intricate musicianship. Plain and simple, they were outstaged by Bear vs. Shark's insane antics, Circa Survive's precision, and Anthony's amazing stage presence and unbelievable vocals".

Submitted By BombOutOfBibles

[jaimej]

Sad. Still can't wait to see GAD in a month. Vince hates everything I like anyway so who knows. :)

[Signals Corrupted]

Sad. Still can't wait to see GAD in a month. Vince hates everything I like anyway so who knows. :)


well dont get there till right before gatsby. maybe you'll enjoy them more like that cos you wont see how much better bear vs. shark and circa survive are

[goughjustin]

there had to be something else... i have seen Gad play since josh was playing bass and I dont ever recall a bad show.

[NationalProduct]

GAD is a good band in their own right, if Circa wasnt on the show, it would have had an entirely different focus, however it was clear and obvious, when GAD asked " how many people out there are seeing us for the first time" and 80% raised their hands, that Circa was the band everyone was there for and of course BVS had kids as well. Anthony danced and floated across the stage with an amazing charisma that was fuckin exciting as shit to see. I didnt even want to move because I was wrapped up in his natural ability to control a crowd. He has something very rare and despite what the vocals sounded like on some of the saosin videos, he sang pretty flawless tonight.

[MrChainsaw389]

Bear vs Shark is better than Cica Survive and GAD combined, so it doesn't really matter.

[citylight]

would anyone have any pictures they'd like to submit somewhere so i can see what i, unfortunely, missed out on ?

[greyxmundos]

maybe circa should be headlining?


anthony is amazing

your name in lights (http://www.yournameinlights.net/)

check these guys out.

[iAMhollyood315]

is gatsby coming anywhere in upstate ny?

[no mames]

as a small town promoter, i here all the time from bands how big city kids are way too hip for the bands these days. those kids are spoiled and blessed with every tour possible, so to them...its just another show.

[mindversusheart]

I went, Circa Survive was honestly the only good band, literally more then half the crowd left after Gatsbys. It was like when Mae played there before Vendetta Red and the singer was watching everyone leave.

[relevanceof27]

To concur with nonames and to be an example, this show is coming through my small town on Wednesday and it's probably the best lineup we've ever had. Period. I'm a really huge Gatsby's fan and I'm confident they won't disappoint..I hope you guys are just really picky or something and it wasn't as bad as you made it out to be. Oh by the way, state of Texas, come to our show in Lubbock on the 16th if you're stuck on where to see the show. It will be an awesome time.

[mydreamrewrite]

Anthony danced and floated across the stage with an amazing charisma that was fuckin exciting as shit to see. I didnt even want to move because I was wrapped up in his natural ability to control a crowd.
That's honestly how I felt about Nic when we played a show together last year.

[Signals Corrupted]

To concur with nonames and to be an example, this show is coming through my small town on Wednesday and it's probably the best lineup we've ever had. Period. I'm a really huge Gatsby's fan and I'm confident they won't disappoint..I hope you guys are just really picky or something and it wasn't as bad as you made it out to be. Oh by the way, state of Texas, come to our show in Lubbock on the 16th if you're stuck on where to see the show. It will be an awesome time.


yeah man, when i submitted this, i didnt mean to crush anyone's hopes lol. serious, it was an awesome show overall, even though gatsby were a dissapointment, im sure if i was still a die hard fan imight have enjoyed it anyway

[k3vc05ta]

this show ended a little past 10:30, how early is that?

[Signals Corrupted]

this show ended a little past 10:30, how early is that?

yes thats what happens when the headliners play for 20 minutes.

[soulineyes]

well dont get there till right before gatsby. maybe you'll enjoy them more like that cos you wont see how much better bear vs. shark and circa survive are

do you like bands with choruses?
maybe GAD had a bad show...but they are one of the best bands I have ever seen consistently.

[Signals Corrupted]

do you like bands with choruses?
maybe GAD had a bad show...but they are one of the best bands I have ever seen consistently.


yes, most people who vouch for them are actually from seattle.. and i mean, of course they have great shows there. its their people! lol

and for the record, that post you quoted me on, i was just teasing her haha.. i have no idea if they'll be as unenjoyable as they were last night

[tannerbnd]

bear vs shark sound like what it would sound like with 10 retarded kids riding on a short bus...circa survive is the shit

[Jason Tate]

bear vs shark are horrible. seriously, one of the worst/mostfuckedup live shows i've ever seen. he eats microphones... being crazy =! being a good live band.

and anthony green and circa curvive are rockstars.

[Frank Giaramita]

Yeah. I saw Gatsby's with Acceptance and As Tall As Lions and let me tell you...it was boring and unemotional, people watched them for the first song and lsot interest. I think Gatsby's musicianship is incredible but I think some of the stuff lacks feeling and substance, as opposed to Acceptance and As Tall As Lions who literally pour their emotions out. Gatsby's are like a modern day Yes...where their stuff is intricate and complicated just for the sake of being that, yet it lacks what touches people most. Acceptance is a band that's straight-forward, structured, simple and plain...but the power of honesty and truth keeps the listener on the egde of their seat. As far as Circa Survive goes, their stuff has is super wacky and weirdl... but it also has substance and drive behind it...not just wackiness for the sake of wackiness.

[Signals Corrupted]

Yeah. I saw Gatsby's with Acceptance and As Tall As Lions and let me tell you...it was boring and unemotional, people watched them for the first song and lsot interest. I think Gatsby's musicianship is incredible but I think some of the stuff lacks feeling and substance, as opposed to Acceptance and As Tall As Lions who literally pour their emotions out. Gatsby's are like a modern day Yes...where their stuff is intricate and complicated just for the sake of being that, yet it lacks what touches people most. Acceptance is a band that's straight-forward, structured, simple and plain...but the power of honesty and truth keeps the listener on the egde of their seat. As far as Circa Survive goes, their stuff has is super wacky and weirdl... but it also has substance and drive behind it...not just wackiness for the sake of wackiness.


thats another thing that struck me about gad. it seemed routine. not really emotionally involved in it

[Frank Giaramita]

yes thats what happens when the headliners play for 20

Haha, 20 minute sets are what happens when a band has 2 minute songs.

[Christian]

It was indeed pretty sound bad I thoguht was pretty rad. I only watched a bit of Bear Vs. Shark but seriously wasn't too impressed. Not saying they are bad, it jsut seemed like uncontrolled chaos to me, yet took it as amazing. Circa did rad and Gatsby's I felt did well. I have pictures from Gatsby's set from on stage so if anyone wants em let me know

[Scott Weber]

Gatsby's are like a modern day Yes...where their stuff is intricate and complicated just for the sake of being that, yet it lacks what touches people most. Acceptance is a band that's straight-forward, structured, simple and plain...but the power of honesty and truth keeps the listener on the egde of their seat. As far as Circa Survive goes, their stuff has is super wacky and weirdl... but it also has substance and drive behind it...not just wackiness for the sake of wackiness.
that is the most ignorant thing ever. you think gatsby's writes technical stuff just to be weird? are you questioning a band's musical integrity? I could say the same about bands you listen to, that they write generic music for the sake of being generic, but that's not true. It's ironic that you talk about GAD lacking emotion, because the entire lyrical theme behind Volcano is about human emotion. if you even KNEW what songs like Apparition and Fable were about, you'd shut your mouth in an instant...it doesn't get any more emotional than that. I know I have personally connected with their lyrics and hundreds of other people have too. Bobby plays his heart out on stage and gives it his all, and it sucks for them when East Coast kids who don't like Gatsby's because they don't write shitty screamo music (see millions of other NY and NJ bands) end up not paying attention to their set or leaving. Kids are dicks like that, it's hard to play to a crowd that isn't receptive to what a band has to offer before they even play their first chord. And WOW, if you think Circa Survive's stuff is super wacky and weird, then you are seriously insane, it doesn't push the envelope musically any more than a Further Seems Forever record..it's time for you to buy a Mars Volta record to see what wacky shit really is. Circa's good, they do have drive, but I mean come on. There are different kinds of drive, it doesn't have to be 4/4 time.

[scorcho490]

that is the most ignorant thing ever. you think gatsby's writes technical stuff just to be weird? are you questioning a band's musical integrity? I could say the same about bands you listen to, that they write generic music for the sake of being generic, but that's not true. It's ironic that you talk about GAD lacking emotion, because the entire lyrical theme behind Volcano is about human emotion. if you even KNEW what songs like Apparition and Fable were about, you'd shut your mouth in an instant...it doesn't get any more emotional than that. I know I have personally connected with their lyrics and hundreds of other people have too. Bobby plays his heart out on stage and gives it his all, and it sucks for them when East Coast kids who don't like Gatsby's because they don't write shitty screamo music (see millions of other NY and NJ bands) end up not paying attention to their set or leaving. Kids are dicks like that, it's hard to play to a crowd that isn't receptive to what a band has to offer before they even play their first chord. And WOW, if you think Circa Survive's stuff is super wacky and weird, then you are seriously insane, it doesn't push the envelope musically any more than a Further Seems Forever record..it's time for you to buy a Mars Volta record to see what wacky shit really is. Circa's good, they do have drive, but I mean come on. There are different kinds of drive, it doesn't have to be 4/4 time.

100 percent agreement. I honestly don't understand how people can question Gatsby's, it is beyond me. They sat down and crafted an album, not a bunch of singles. Try to find a band that can be listenable and yet have every song have multiple levels of meaning and not only that but tie every song together with an overriding theme. I love Acceptance too, but they have never kept me on the edge of my seat...that is just ridiculous. As for Circa Survive being wacky and wierd, what the hell are you talking about? Does someone have some Circa Survive songs that I don't, because the ep I have does not have one wierd or wacky song on it. I don't see how Circa can have more emotion and meaning than Gatsby's when the singer says on stage "I won't remember any of this tomorrow" and yet Nic from Gatsbys recognizes me every time I see them and thanks me for coming. The only explanation I can think of for anyone doubting their live show is that they had a horribly off night, and as for the Yes comparison all I can ask is WTF.

[Signals Corrupted]

that is the most ignorant thing ever. you think gatsby's writes technical stuff just to be weird? are you questioning a band's musical integrity? I could say the same about bands you listen to, that they write generic music for the sake of being generic, but that's not true. It's ironic that you talk about GAD lacking emotion, because the entire lyrical theme behind Volcano is about human emotion. if you even KNEW what songs like Apparition and Fable were about, you'd shut your mouth in an instant...it doesn't get any more emotional than that. I know I have personally connected with their lyrics and hundreds of other people have too. Bobby plays his heart out on stage and gives it his all, and it sucks for them when East Coast kids who don't like Gatsby's because they don't write shitty screamo music (see millions of other NY and NJ bands) end up not paying attention to their set or leaving. Kids are dicks like that, it's hard to play to a crowd that isn't receptive to what a band has to offer before they even play their first chord. And WOW, if you think Circa Survive's stuff is super wacky and weird, then you are seriously insane, it doesn't push the envelope musically any more than a Further Seems Forever record..it's time for you to buy a Mars Volta record to see what wacky shit really is. Circa's good, they do have drive, but I mean come on. There are different kinds of drive, it doesn't have to be 4/4 time.


yeah you cant fuck with their integrity. haha

[Frank Giaramita]

that is the most ignorant thing ever. you think gatsby's writes technical stuff just to be weird? are you questioning a band's musical integrity? I could say the same about bands you listen to, that they write generic music for the sake of being generic, but that's not true. It's ironic that you talk about GAD lacking emotion, because the entire lyrical theme behind Volcano is about human emotion. if you even KNEW what songs like Apparition and Fable were about, you'd shut your mouth in an instant...it doesn't get any more emotional than that. I know I have personally connected with their lyrics and hundreds of other people have too. Bobby plays his heart out on stage and gives it his all, and it sucks for them when East Coast kids who don't like Gatsby's because they don't write shitty screamo music (see millions of other NY and NJ bands) end up not paying attention to their set or leaving. Kids are dicks like that, it's hard to play to a crowd that isn't receptive to what a band has to offer before they even play their first chord. And WOW, if you think Circa Survive's stuff is super wacky and weird, then you are seriously insane, it doesn't push the envelope musically any more than a Further Seems Forever record..it's time for you to buy a Mars Volta record to see what wacky shit really is. Circa's good, they do have drive, but I mean come on. There are different kinds of drive, it doesn't have to be 4/4 time.

An opinion can't be "ignorant" unless it's relating to a topic that's not subjective...I learned that in 7th grade. Also, I can write lyrics about the most heartfelt shit in the world, but if I don't have the physical drive or emotion on stage to back it up... it means NOTHING. Both times I have seen Gatsby's live, I felt empty...and especuially at the Acceptance and As Tall As Lions show. Both of those bands have an expression that cannot be missed, and even if you don't like their music, the raw power that comes off of the stage is enough to draw your eyes. Kids stood around, watched Gatbys' first song and turned their backs. ..because it was BORING, yes Scott, I just called your boyfriends BORING live...deal with it. I don't care what they write about, I don't care how complicated their songs are, or how good of a singer Nic (or whatever his name is ) is live... they are BORING... and they have absolutely no drive or emotion when they perform (unless myself and the otehr 300 people in the venue happened to turn our backs when they started showing some). Whether a band is "cliche", "original", "unique" blah blah blah it doesn't mean a damn thing if they don't have an emotional drive behind their music and especially their live show. Period. No argument. I've said it a million times... when an artist write's from their mind it will touch people in their minds and when an artist write's from their heart it'll touch people in their hearts, Gatsby's touches me in my mind. When you put Gatsby's on a stage with band's like As Tall As Lions, Circa Survive or Acceptance, a VERY VERY noticable difference seperates the Gatsby's from the others. People in the crowd have realized this obvious difference both times the band has played here because nobody can seem to keep interest in their show...it's apparant and I'm not imagining things.

[Signals Corrupted]

An opinion can't be "ignorant" unless it's relating to a topic that's not subjective...I learned that in 7th grade. Also, I can write lyrics about the most heartfelt shit in the world, but if I don't have the physical drive or emotion on stage to back it up... it means NOTHING. Both times I have seen Gatsby's live, I felt empty...and especuially at the Acceptance and As Tall As Lions show. Both of those bands have an expression that cannot be missed, and even if you don't like their music, the raw power that comes off of the stage is enough to draw your eyes. Kids stood around, watched Gatbys' first song and turned their backs. ..because it was BORING, yes Scott, I just called your boyfriends BORING live...deal with it. I don't care what they write about, I don't care how complicated their songs are, or how good of a singer Nic (or whatever his name is ) is live... they are BORING... and they have absolutely no drive or emotion when they perform (unless myself and the otehr 300 people in the venue happened to turn our backs when they started showing some). Whether a band is "cliche", "original", "unique" blah blah blah it doesn't mean a damn thing if they don't have an emotional drive behind their music and especially their live show. Period. No argument. I've said it a million times... when an artist write's from their mind it will touch people in their minds and when an artist write's from their heart it'll touch people in their hearts, Gatsby's touches me in my mind. When you put Gatsby's on a stage with band's like As Tall As Lions, Circa Survive or Acceptance, a VERY VERY noticable difference seperates the Gatsby's from the others. People in the crowd have realized this obvious difference both times the band has played here because nobody can seem to keep interest in their show...it's apparant and I'm not imagining things.


but see, scott cant really see where we're comming from because hes from seattle and of course gatsby performs better there.. so far most people on this thread who have said gatsby are amazing live are from their hometown

[scorcho490]

but see, scott cant really see where we're comming from because hes from seattle and of course gatsby performs better there.. so far most people on this thread who have said gatsby are amazing live are from their hometown

I've seen Gatsby's in Portland, Oregon and St. George, Utah and in both places there were like 50 people there and they played their asses off, but yeah the only thing I can think of is that you saw them on an off night and that sucks for you. Either way it still makes no sense what people are saying about their songwriting.

[Scott Weber]

An opinion can't be "ignorant" unless it's relating to a topic that's not subjective...I learned that in 7th grade. Also, I can write lyrics about the most heartfelt shit in the world, but if I don't have the physical drive or emotion on stage to back it up... it means NOTHING. Both times I have seen Gatsby's live, I felt empty...and especuially at the Acceptance and As Tall As Lions show. Both of those bands have an expression that cannot be missed, and even if you don't like their music, the raw power that comes off of the stage is enough to draw your eyes. Kids stood around, watched Gatbys' first song and turned their backs. ..because it was BORING, yes Scott, I just called your boyfriends BORING live...deal with it. I don't care what they write about, I don't care how complicated their songs are, or how good of a singer Nic (or whatever his name is ) is live... they are BORING... and they have absolutely no drive or emotion when they perform (unless myself and the otehr 300 people in the venue happened to turn our backs when they started showing some). Whether a band is "cliche", "original", "unique" blah blah blah it doesn't mean a damn thing if they don't have an emotional drive behind their music and especially their live show. Period. No argument. I've said it a million times... when an artist write's from their mind it will touch people in their minds and when an artist write's from their heart it'll touch people in their hearts, Gatsby's touches me in my mind. When you put Gatsby's on a stage with band's like As Tall As Lions, Circa Survive or Acceptance, a VERY VERY noticable difference seperates the Gatsby's from the others. People in the crowd have realized this obvious difference both times the band has played here because nobody can seem to keep interest in their show...it's apparant and I'm not imagining things.


I guess people on the east coast don't know good music when they hear it. every single time i've seen GAD here they've blown away the rest of the bands performing, including your boyfriend anthony green, who was so fucked up on what appeared to be cocaine and booze that he could barely stand straight. it also means something more when a band is performing to people that enjoy their music, and GAD are quite obviously not as popular on the east coast. man, when I saw saosin perform here with anthony, there were no more than 20 people watching them. everyone else just left, i was the only person who knew the words. and I thought they sucked live as a result. but if the enviornment was right, and they performed the same but with 300 kids going nuts, i would have thought it was a great live show. go figure. i live somewhere where i can see GAD tear it up like 10 times a year because people love their music here and don't make half assed generalizations about them. and by the way, you stating that Gatsby's makes music for the sake of being weird isn't an opinion - it's ignorance because you know nothing about their songwriting process or the band.
you should go out of your way more often to be a hater in every gatsby's thread. or, you could saturate the front page with posts about you creaming your jeans over the new mae, treos, or whatever. don't talk about opinions with subjectivity when you can't even keep your boner off the front page when you're posting about Mae or TREOS on a news website.

[scorcho490]

TREOS = Emery ripoff

[Killforgrace]

I guess people on the east coast don't know good music when they hear it. every single time i've seen GAD here they've blown away the rest of the bands performing, including your boyfriend anthony green, who was so fucked up on what appeared to be cocaine and booze that he could barely stand straight. it also means something more when a band is performing to people that enjoy their music, and GAD are quite obviously not as popular on the east coast. man, when I saw saosin perform here with anthony, there were no more than 20 people watching them. everyone else just left, i was the only person who knew the words. and I thought they sucked live as a result. but if the enviornment was right, and they performed the same but with 300 kids going nuts, i would have thought it was a great live show. go figure. i live somewhere where i can see GAD tear it up like 10 times a year because people love their music here and don't make half assed generalizations about them. and by the way, you stating that Gatsby's makes music for the sake of being weird isn't an opinion - it's ignorance because you know nothing about their songwriting process or the band.
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hey man... I'm in no way trying to get into this little thing we got going in the thread... but I believe you have made generalizations about east coast people.... I like good music, hell i even happen to like GAD. Recondition, Reprogram, Reaction... is one of my favorite songs... but dont go around sayin east coast people dont know music and only like screamo ect ect, cus its not true and that sounds quite ignorant to me.... just pointing it out and I know I'm not the only exception... and I'm not looking to get my ass torn apart either so yea... I happen to enjoy GAD and Circa but am undecided on Bear vs Shark but none the less am going to see them at Aces... so yea... alright I'm just rambling now.... cool.... When is trophy scars gonna come out with some new shit and tour... thats what i want to see.... but yea its GAD and circa is an anticipated show coming up.

(I know i cant spell and my grammar is bad dont tear me apart on that either)... thanks

[YourLatestVicti]

hey man... I'm in no way trying to get into this little thing we got going in the thread... but I believe you have made generalizations about east coast people.... I like good music, hell i even happen to like GAD. Recondition, Reprogram, Reaction... is one of my favorite songs... but dont go around sayin east coast people dont know music and only like screamo ect ect, cus its not true and that sounds quite ignorant to me.... just pointing it out and I know I'm not the only exception... and I'm not looking to get my ass torn apart either so yea...


I couldn't have said it better myslef. Myself and a bunch of my friends all like GAD, but really didn't know anything about them until they opened for a band we knew and liked. That's why the east coast "doesn't like good music", it's because the west coast bands haven't toured over here nearly as much as they have on the west coast.

[Scott Weber]

I couldn't have said it better myslef. Myself and a bunch of my friends all like GAD, but really didn't know anything about them until they opened for a band we knew and liked. That's why the east coast "doesn't like good music", it's because the west coast bands haven't toured over here nearly as much as they have on the west coast.
yeah you guys are totally right, and my bad. I think a lot of east coasters (not all) have gotten on the bandwagon a little later for gatsby's, and there's a lot who still don't know about them. hopefully it'll change after Volcano, but yeah. not that ALL you guys don't like sweet music, not true.garret and jared love GAD and they're east coasters. i've just heard many tales of west coast bands getting totally ignored in east coast venues, so maybe I'm biased.

[Killforgrace]

Its all good... I've seen local bands get ignored... but then again they suck so yea... Hopefully we can all spread the word of good music like a big jesus of music or the jehovah's witnesses... you knwo go door to door with cds and stickers... maybe? ok...

wait is that what street teams do?... fuck it

[YourLatestVicti]

yeah you guys are totally right, and my bad. I think a lot of east coasters (not all) have gotten on the bandwagon a little later for gatsby's, and there's a lot who still don't know about them. hopefully it'll change after Volcano, but yeah. not that ALL you guys don't like sweet music, not true.garret and jared love GAD and they're east coasters. i've just heard many tales of west coast bands getting totally ignored in east coast venues, so maybe I'm biased.


The east coast definetly ignores some great bands, when I saw GAD the only reason most of my friends were there was because they were friends with a crappy local opening band. Otherwise they would have shown up for just Madcap or not gone at all. But the people that saw them that night instantly became fans so I think if they toured the east coast and opened for bigger bands with in "the scene" they could get pretty big.

[Frank Giaramita]

I guess people on the east coast don't know good music when they hear it. every single time i've seen GAD here they've blown away the rest of the bands performing, including your boyfriend anthony green, who was so fucked up on what appeared to be cocaine and booze that he could barely stand straight. it also means something more when a band is performing to people that enjoy their music, and GAD are quite obviously not as popular on the east coast. man, when I saw saosin perform here with anthony, there were no more than 20 people watching them. everyone else just left, i was the only person who knew the words. and I thought they sucked live as a result. but if the enviornment was right, and they performed the same but with 300 kids going nuts, i would have thought it was a great live show. go figure. i live somewhere where i can see GAD tear it up like 10 times a year because people love their music here and don't make half assed generalizations about them. and by the way, you stating that Gatsby's makes music for the sake of being weird isn't an opinion - it's ignorance because you know nothing about their songwriting process or the band.
you should go out of your way more often to be a hater in every gatsby's thread. or, you could saturate the front page with posts about you creaming your jeans over the new mae, treos, or whatever. don't talk about opinions with subjectivity when you can't even keep your boner off the front page when you're posting about Mae or TREOS on a news website.

Acceptance is just as popular as GAD on the east coast (if not less) and kids could actually watch them. Also, the last line of your post makes no sense bc im not the one who goes as far as to counter someone elses thread when I dont agree with it...like you. Also, the word "good" is subjective you IGNORANT, CLOSE-MINDED PRICK, so the next time you try to bash a whole coast's worth of people, at least do it with some intelligence and planned offense. Also, this line makes no sense (well, very few of your lines do, but this one imparticular):

"you stating that Gatsby's makes music for the sake of being weird isn't an opinion - it's ignorance because you know nothing about their song writing process or the band. "

Since when do I need to know the song writing process of the band to say they write music for the sake of being weird?...It's a JUDGEMENT based on the live shows I've seen and the lack of expression or feeling they have expressed. Yes Scott, a J-U-D-G-E-M-E-N-T....you don't need to know a band's life story to tell whether they're true about their music and Gatsby's failed to show me honesty or emotion in any of the songs they've performed live when I've seen them. They were boring and they were vocally terrible and seemed totally uninterested in being in the venue, yet alone on the stage. "Yes" are one of my favorite bands of all time, band when I listen to them I say to myself..."Holy fuck, that riff is incredibly weird and difficult to play"...but when I listen to their albums or see them live I am not touched, nor am I swept away by their songs. I usually leave the arena/venue/whatever saying "wow, that band are incredible musicians"...and that's the difference. You can TELL when a band spill their hearts out and you can tell when a band is truthful, Gatsby's failed to show me either but instead showed me how good at playing their instruments they are and how wacky they can write songs. This isn't always a bad thing however because I enjoy listening to different and difficult songs, it just falls noticably short when a band like Acceptance, Circa Survive, As Tall As Lions, etc. are also on the bill. You may say "Anthony looks like a cracked out blah blah blah", but hell, I'd rather watch a cracked out nut job then someone who stands in the same spot like a lawn gnome...I think many people who went to the shows I went to would agree. Anthony draws eyes and keeps people entertained and on the edge of their seats...Gatsby's however, fail to do so based on my experiences.


P.S.- The next time you're going to jump into an argument, get your head out of your ass and read what you write before you actually submit it. You're too hot-headed to even put together a remotely intelligent thought by bashing and scrutinizing the band's and artists I like ( and even the coast i live on) just to piss me off.--it's not working and it makes you look bitter and unable to handle an opinion...just a suggestion.

[Frank Giaramita]

xxxx (9:26:52 PM): hey you know what. tell him that the world needs to stop sucking on seattle's dick with their excuse for new music
xxxx (9:27:55 PM): you make a really good point. and it looks like scott is just doing this because he lives in the same city as them and is looking for the attention of "backing them up".
xxxx (9:28:08 PM): have you ever listened to his radio show?
xxxx (9:28:20 PM): gatsbys marketing up the ass
xxxx (9:28:44 PM): and i've lived in seattle and have been seeing gatsbys since one of their first big shows with Brand New/Taking Back Sunday and Rufio
xxx (9:28:49 PM): back then they had the energy

[burnpianoisland]

i have never had any concert come to where i live...the closest thing ive ever gotten was against me! an hour away

[Signals Corrupted]

that is the most ignorant thing ever. you think gatsby's writes technical stuff just to be weird? are you questioning a band's musical integrity? I could say the same about bands you listen to, that they write generic music for the sake of being generic, but that's not true. It's ironic that you talk about GAD lacking emotion, because the entire lyrical theme behind Volcano is about human emotion. if you even KNEW what songs like Apparition and Fable were about, you'd shut your mouth in an instant...it doesn't get any more emotional than that. I know I have personally connected with their lyrics and hundreds of other people have too. Bobby plays his heart out on stage and gives it his all, and it sucks for them when East Coast kids who don't like Gatsby's because they don't write shitty screamo music (see millions of other NY and NJ bands) end up not paying attention to their set or leaving. Kids are dicks like that, it's hard to play to a crowd that isn't receptive to what a band has to offer before they even play their first chord. And WOW, if you think Circa Survive's stuff is super wacky and weird, then you are seriously insane, it doesn't push the envelope musically any more than a Further Seems Forever record..it's time for you to buy a Mars Volta record to see what wacky shit really is. Circa's good, they do have drive, but I mean come on. There are different kinds of drive, it doesn't have to be 4/4 time.


just for the record.. anthony's vocals alone, push the envelope

[rob7850]

I love Gatsbys and I'm driving from Vegas to see them tomorrow because I love all 3 bands.
It would seriously suck if they headlined and only played 11-12 songs(prolly a half hour). Hopefully they play about 16or 17 songs for Los Angeles and not just Seattle especially after reading all this, which most likely they have, and they will want to prove all the haters wrong.

Also, I thought Scott and Frank loved each other, why all the hate?

[Scott Weber]

xxxx (9:26:52 PM): hey you know what. tell him that the world needs to stop sucking on seattle's dick with their excuse for new music
xxxx (9:27:55 PM): you make a really good point. and it looks like scott is just doing this because he lives in the same city as them and is looking for the attention of "backing them up".
xxxx (9:28:08 PM): have you ever listened to his radio show?
xxxx (9:28:20 PM): gatsbys marketing up the ass
xxxx (9:28:44 PM): and i've lived in seattle and have been seeing gatsbys since one of their first big shows with Brand New/Taking Back Sunday and Rufio
xxx (9:28:49 PM): back then they had the energy
wow, you are seriously so spineless dude. Yeah, I promote the hell out of GAD on my radio show - BECAUSE I LOVE THEM. I don't just talk them up because they're from seattle, I don't do it for any other reason - I promote the bands i LOVE. Gatsby's dominates my CD player, just as Coheed and Cambria did in 2003, just as Rise Against did in 2004, and I would have promoted them just as much had I worked for the site then. Posting AIM conversations? Ridiculous man.

[YourLatestVicti]

wow, you are seriously so spineless dude. Yeah, I promote the hell out of GAD on my radio show - BECAUSE I LOVE THEM. I don't just talk them up because they're from seattle, I don't do it for any other reason - I promote the bands i LOVE. Gatsby's dominates my CD player, just as Coheed and Cambria did in 2003, just as Rise Against did in 2004, and I would have promoted them just as much had I worked for the site then. Posting AIM conversations? Ridiculous man.


I have to agree with Scott. It seems like Frank went out of his way just to further the lttle feud that's developed in this thread.

[Scott Weber]

Acceptance is just as popular as GAD on the east coast (if not less) and kids could actually watch them. Also, the last line of your post makes no sense bc im not the one who goes as far as to counter someone elses thread when I dont agree with it...like you. Also, the word "good" is subjective you IGNORANT, CLOSE-MINDED PRICK, so the next time you try to bash a whole coast's worth of people, at least do it with some intelligence and planned offense. Also, this line makes no sense (well, very few of your lines do, but this one imparticular):

"you stating that Gatsby's makes music for the sake of being weird isn't an opinion - it's ignorance because you know nothing about their song writing process or the band. "

Since when do I need to know the song writing process of the band to say they write music for the sake of being weird?...It's a JUDGEMENT based on the live shows I've seen and the lack of expression or feeling they have expressed. Yes Scott, a J-U-D-G-E-M-E-N-T....you don't need to know a band's life story to tell whether they're true about their music and Gatsby's failed to show me honesty or emotion in any of the songs they've performed live when I've seen them. They were boring and they were vocally terrible and seemed totally uninterested in being in the venue, yet alone on the stage. "Yes" are one of my favorite bands of all time, band when I listen to them I say to myself..."Holy fuck, that riff is incredibly weird and difficult to play"...but when I listen to their albums or see them live I am not touched, nor am I swept away by their songs. I usually leave the arena/venue/whatever saying "wow, that band are incredible musicians"...and that's the difference. You can TELL when a band spill their hearts out and you can tell when a band is truthful, Gatsby's failed to show me either but instead showed me how good at playing their instruments they are and how wacky they can write songs. This isn't always a bad thing however because I enjoy listening to different and difficult songs, it just falls noticably short when a band like Acceptance, Circa Survive, As Tall As Lions, etc. are also on the bill. You may say "Anthony looks like a cracked out blah blah blah", but hell, I'd rather watch a cracked out nut job then someone who stands in the same spot like a lawn gnome...I think many people who went to the shows I went to would agree. Anthony draws eyes and keeps people entertained and on the edge of their seats...Gatsby's however, fail to do so based on my experiences.


P.S.- The next time you're going to jump into an argument, get your head out of your ass and read what you write before you actually submit it. You're too hot-headed to even put together a remotely intelligent thought by bashing and scrutinizing the band's and artists I like ( and even the coast i live on) just to piss me off.--it's not working and it makes you look bitter and unable to handle an opinion...just a suggestion.


I find this whole situation ironic for several reasons. First of all, you come and tell me that I need to read what I write before I submit it - you have literally 3 typos a day on the front page, where thousands of people can see them, making the site look unprofessional. Not only did you call the Mae song "Suspensions" twice in one news post, you then proceeded to post a retraction in which you said "I reposted this because I was asking to." Asking. Not asked, asking. So you have no grounds on which to tell me I need to proofread my posts, thanks.

Second of all, why do these things get started in the first place? It's because you hop in every single Gatsby's thread just to post how unimpressed you are by them. Where as when you post about TREOS, I may come in and disagree with your predictions about them, but I'm still very interested to hear their new stuff. In fact over AIM, I even asked you to show me some more stuff. Your arguments with me always stem from you taking that step over the line to insult me personally. It doesn't become about me defending a band or anything like that. Do you think I'm arguing and defending Gatsby's in this thread because I think they'll read it? I don't even think they read the comments to these things. Who cares?

I guess I simply cannot relate when you talk about the band just standing around when they played - Nic is always running all over stage, doing the robot, dancing, Bobby jumps into the crowd while playing - these are MY expierences with GAD, and if there's one thing we've established here, it's that its a totally different enviornment when they play when you see them. Talking about people standing around, that's literally what Circa Survive did! Anthony moved around a bit, doing his thing, but the rest of the band barely moved.

If you can name one place in this thread where I "bashed a band you like" then show me. Honestly, show me. The only thing I criticized was your inate ablity to make completely unprofessional gushing news posts about the bands you adore. I don't hate Mae. I like them. I am still undecided on TREOS, but I've heard virtually none of their stuff, nor have I ever seen them live. And my comment about the east coast wasn't directed at you to piss you off - don't flatter yourself. You're only one person in an area with millions.

Calling me a prick really helps your case too. I'm pretty sure that makes YOU the one who looks bitter and unable to handle an opinion.

[Frank Giaramita]

I find this whole situation ironic for several reasons. First of all, you come and tell me that I need to read what I write before I submit it - you have literally 3 typos a day on the front page, where thousands of people can see them, making the site look unprofessional. Not only did you call the Mae song "Suspensions" twice in one news post, you then proceeded to post a retraction in which you said "I reposted this because I was asking to." Asking. Not asked, asking. So you have no grounds on which to tell me I need to proofread my posts, thanks.

Second of all, why do these things get started in the first place? It's because you hop in every single Gatsby's thread just to post how unimpressed you are by them. Where as when you post about TREOS, I may come in and disagree with your predictions about them, but I'm still very interested to hear their new stuff. In fact over AIM, I even asked you to show me some more stuff. Your arguments with me always stem from you taking that step over the line to insult me personally. It doesn't become about me defending a band or anything like that. Do you think I'm arguing and defending Gatsby's in this thread because I think they'll read it? I don't even think they read the comments to these things. Who cares?

I guess I simply cannot relate when you talk about the band just standing around when they played - Nic is always running all over stage, doing the robot, dancing, Bobby jumps into the crowd while playing - these are MY expierences with GAD, and if there's one thing we've established here, it's that its a totally different enviornment when they play when you see them. Talking about people standing around, that's literally what Circa Survive did! Anthony moved around a bit, doing his thing, but the rest of the band barely moved.

If you can name one place in this thread where I "bashed a band you like" then show me. Honestly, show me. The only thing I criticized was your inate ablity to make completely unprofessional gushing news posts about the bands you adore. I don't hate Mae. I like them. I am still undecided on TREOS, but I've heard virtually none of their stuff, nor have I ever seen them live. And my comment about the east coast wasn't directed at you to piss you off - don't flatter yourself. You're only one person in an area with millions.

Calling me a prick really helps your case too. I'm pretty sure that makes YOU the one who looks bitter and unable to handle an opinion.

You are quite possibly the biggest idiot I have ever had the honor of talking to.... It's actually FUNNY....I'm not talking about typo wise jackass, I'm talking about intelligently structuring a thought before clicking the "Submit Reply" button. Saying "I guess East coast people dont know what good music is" isn't exactly my idea of "structuring an intelligent thought"...Also, 3 typos on the front page when i post 35 things a day is nothing to bitch about. If you actually READ what I typed, you'd understand what I meant:

"The next time you're going to jump into an argument, get your head out of your ass and read what you write before you actually submit it. You're too hot-headed to even put together a remotely intelligent thought by bashing and scrutinizing the band's and artists I like ( and even the coast i live on) just to piss me off.--it's not working and it makes you look bitter and unable to handle an opinion...just a suggestion.---READ IT NEXT TIME


Also, when you say calling you a prick makes me look like I'm "unable to handle an opinion"..if you consider bashing millions of americans on the east coast an "opinion" you need to get your head out of your ass....that my friend is called IGNORANCE and it's called BEING A PRICK because you haven't personally met every single person on the east coast. So the next time you call someone ignorant (like you did to me) try not to bash half of the United States right after you do it... because 1) it makes you look hypocritical 2) it makes you look like an IGNORANT PRICK 3) It proves to me how hot-headed and irrational you really are when someone says something you don't agree with. Also, tell me how putting a title that says "I Love Treos" is unprofessional when MUCH MUCH more perverted and unprofessional titles were permitted on this page less than 3 months ago.While we're on the topic of "unprofessional" I'll tell you what IS unprofessional...a CD REVIEWER (you...in case you forgot) POSTING A THREAD SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF COUNTERING ONE DIRECTLY BELOW IT. Not only does such an action make you look like a total Gatsby's dick swinger by countering someone else's opinion on a band you like, but it also is such a stretch bc the show was a week ago, and it would make sense for you to make the post a week ago, not right after I make a post about BombOutOfBibles' experiences. Also, in case you didn't notice (but you probably haven't) Jared is moving right now, he has no computer access, Chris March is on Spring Break, no computer access, the site has been down constantly and Tj Wells doesn't post shit. That leaves me with over 120 E-mails to check a day (at 3AM when the site is fully functioning) and to post every single fucking bit of news this site gets for the next week...so the next time you bitch about typos and fucking up posts, at least I do shit around here other then go into the Generals forum and suck all of the users dick's and tits for "scene points" (bc we all know how much your life revolves around those things). Make yourself useful and actually do some shit for the page instead of annoy the shit out of half of the people on staff. Stop acting like a 12 year old hot-headed jackass who can't be rational enough to express the most minute feelings and emotions but instead has to resort to totally unrelated statements like Mae, Treos, East Coast music tastes, titles to posts and other irrelevant bullshit you've driven this conversation to.

[Christian]

This is going no where.............................. .................let's just say this Frank is unimpressed and Scott is. There is no changing that, even if things changed, no one would admit it. So what is the point? Let's just accept the fact that every one loves certain bands and will die trying to prove that they are amazing. E.g. Frank and Treos and Scott and GAD. I have to say that I love GAD and that I was at the Chain Show and liked them. I interviewed Nic afterwards and talked to Rudy and they were both awesome guys. They even gave me a free dvd. At the show I will also state I didn't really like Circa Survive's performance. HOWEVER, this is my opinion alone and I am not trying to discredit the band or credit GAD to being superior. I know from experience that it is hard for someone to change opinions like that and state that their favorite band played horribly, or a band that they have shown distaste for played incredible. So instead of sitting here and stating how horrible a band is, how good another is, or how scene someone is, lets just drop it. Does it really matter who wins? Will you get some internet prize stating that you are the ultimate victor in the battle between GAD's legitimacy as a performing as well as recording artist? No, so who cares and why are we fighting about it. It's not that big of a deal if one person loves a band and another doesn't. I dislike many bands that I'm sure many of you love, but I doesn't really matter now does it? It's my opinion and my opinion alone, so who cares? You have both stated your beliefs and reasons and we should all be mature enough to accept that and move on with our lives. If we sign on every day hoping that there is something we can argue about on this site, that is very sad. I have said my peace and I'm sure I will get bitched out, but hopefully we can get over this STUPID fight.
-Christian Coffey

[Signals Corrupted]

This is going no where.............................. .................let's just say this Frank is unimpressed and Scott is. There is no changing that, even if things changed, no one would admit it. So what is the point? Let's just accept the fact that every one loves certain bands and will die trying to prove that they are amazing. E.g. Frank and Treos and Scott and GAD. I have to say that I love GAD and that I was at the Chain Show and liked them. I interviewed Nic afterwards and talked to Rudy and they were both awesome guys. They even gave me a free dvd. At the show I will also state I didn't really like Circa Survive's performance. HOWEVER, this is my opinion alone and I am not trying to discredit the band or credit GAD to being superior. I know from experience that it is hard for someone to change opinions like that and state that their favorite band played horribly, or a band that they have shown distaste for played incredible. So instead of sitting here and stating how horrible a band is, how good another is, or how scene someone is, lets just drop it. Does it really matter who wins? Will you get some internet prize stating that you are the ultimate victor in the battle between GAD's legitimacy as a performing as well as recording artist? No, so who cares and why are we fighting about it. It's not that big of a deal if one person loves a band and another doesn't. I dislike many bands that I'm sure many of you love, but I doesn't really matter now does it? It's my opinion and my opinion alone, so who cares? You have both stated your beliefs and reasons and we should all be mature enough to accept that and move on with our lives. If we sign on every day hoping that there is something we can argue about on this site, that is very sad. I have said my peace and I'm sure I will get bitched out, but hopefully we can get over this STUPID fight.
-Christian Coffey


this fight wasnt stupid. it was actually quite hilarious lol

[Scott Weber]

You are quite possibly the biggest idiot I have ever had the honor of talking to.... It's actually FUNNY....I'm not talking about typo wise jackass, I'm talking about intelligently structuring a thought before clicking the "Submit Reply" button. Saying "I guess East coast people dont know what good music is" isn't exactly my idea of "structuring an intelligent thought"...Also, 3 typos on the front page when i post 35 things a day is nothing to bitch about. If you actually READ what I typed, you'd understand what I meant:

"The next time you're going to jump into an argument, get your head out of your ass and read what you write before you actually submit it. You're too hot-headed to even put together a remotely intelligent thought by bashing and scrutinizing the band's and artists I like ( and even the coast i live on) just to piss me off.--it's not working and it makes you look bitter and unable to handle an opinion...just a suggestion.---READ IT NEXT TIME


Also, when you say calling you a prick makes me look like I'm "unable to handle an opinion"..if you consider bashing millions of americans on the east coast an "opinion" you need to get your head out of your ass....that my friend is called IGNORANCE and it's called BEING A PRICK because you haven't personally met every single person on the east coast. So the next time you call someone ignorant (like you did to me) try not to bash half of the United States right after you do it... because 1) it makes you look hypocritical 2) it makes you look like an IGNORANT PRICK 3) It proves to me how hot-headed and irrational you really are when someone says something you don't agree with. Also, tell me how putting a title that says "I Love Treos" is unprofessional when MUCH MUCH more perverted and unprofessional titles were permitted on this page less than 3 months ago.While we're on the topic of "unprofessional" I'll tell you what IS unprofessional...a CD REVIEWER (you...in case you forgot) POSTING A THREAD SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF COUNTERING ONE DIRECTLY BELOW IT. Not only does such an action make you look like a total Gatsby's dick swinger by countering someone else's opinion on a band you like, but it also is such a stretch bc the show was a week ago, and it would make sense for you to make the post a week ago, not right after I make a post about BombOutOfBibles' experiences. Also, in case you didn't notice (but you probably haven't) Jared is moving right now, he has no computer access, Chris March is on Spring Break, no computer access, the site has been down constantly and Tj Wells doesn't post shit. That leaves me with over 120 E-mails to check a day (at 3AM when the site is fully functioning) and to post every single fucking bit of news this site gets for the next week...so the next time you bitch about typos and fucking up posts, at least I do shit around here other then go into the Generals forum and suck all of the users dick's and tits for "scene points" (bc we all know how much your life revolves around those things). Make yourself useful and actually do some shit for the page instead of annoy the shit out of half of the people on staff. Stop acting like a 12 year old hot-headed jackass who can't be rational enough to express the most minute feelings and emotions but instead has to resort to totally unrelated statements like Mae, Treos, East Coast music tastes, titles to posts and other irrelevant bullshit you've driven this conversation to.

first of all, you keep talking about something I said about the east coast. but perhaps you missed the post a few down in which I said my bad when another user rationally pointed it out. I made my apology, yes it was hot-headed, but when somebody leveled with me I realized it was stupid. Re-read the thread.

You're right, I'm sorry. You are not only God of the scene, you are God of AP. Let us all bow down to your news posting abilities, the internet would not exist without you. Please forgive my sins, Father. [/sacrasm]

How can you you call me a hot head when my last post was rational, and yet you feel the need to not only bold but increase the font size, which everybody knows makes your argument stronger. In fact, I think it's been proven in Scientific American.

You're the one who's getting so upset by this, in fact I find it hilarious that you've turned around and become so passionate about a thread that involves a band you don't even care about.

[Signals Corrupted]

first of all, you keep talking about something I said about the east coast. but perhaps you missed the post a few down in which I said my bad when another user rationally pointed it out. I made my apology, yes it was hot-headed, but when somebody leveled with me I realized it was stupid. Re-read the thread.

You're right, I'm sorry. You are not only God of the scene, you are God of AP. Let us all bow down to your news posting abilities, the internet would not exist without you. Please forgive my sins, Father. [/sacrasm]

How can you you call me a hot head when my last post was rational, and yet you feel the need to not only bold but increase the font size, which everybody knows makes your argument stronger. In fact, I think it's been proven in Scientific American.

You're the one who's getting so upset by this, in fact I find it hilarious that you've turned around and become so passionate about a thread that involves a band you don't even care about.


I'm sorry, I go to to college. We have tests and homework, it's difficult. I work hard so that I can get a job that pays money for me to work hard at. I think it's noble you volunteer so much time, but school takes top priority for me, and right now is finals week.

I'm done with this argument because of how out of hand you've turned it into.

thats cool scott, but you didnt address the fact that you posted a thread, (one which you posted once already, a week ago) with the purpose of countering mine. (not picking a fight, by the way)

[Christian]

I did find the find funny for a while until it got toe the point that like 25 out of 40 posts read like this:
"You said this"
"No I DIdn't"
"Yes you did"
"They suck"
"Yeah but not as much as you"
"But I don't suck as much as you do"
"Yes you do.....I mean.........you suck"
"But so do they"
"Not as much as you do"
"Yes huh..."
"No your retarded"
"No"
"Yes"
"I hold more music credibility than anyone on this board"
"Other than me"
"I rule you"
"Hey everyone, check out Your Name in Lights"
"They suck more than Your Name in Lights"
"No they don't"
"Yes huh...."
"I don't think so"
"I will destroy you and eat your children"
It is the frickin' Civil War of AP.net and is accomplishing nothing other than limiting my ability to locate news in one place, because everyone is fighting and not looking for news that my lazy ass chooses not to. HAHAHA
-Christian Coffey

[Christian]

DAMN.........I spelled to as toe, forgive me, I blame spell check

[Signals Corrupted]

I did find the find funny for a while until it got toe the point that like 25 out of 40 posts read like this:
"You said this"
"No I DIdn't"
"Yes you did"
"They suck"
"Yeah but not as much as you"
"But I don't suck as much as you do"
"Yes you do.....I mean.........you suck"
"But so do they"
"Not as much as you do"
"Yes huh..."
"No your retarded"
"No"
"Yes"
"I hold more music credibility than anyone on this board"
"Other than me"
"I rule you"
"Hey everyone, check out Your Name in Lights"
"They suck more than Your Name in Lights"
"No they don't"
"Yes huh...."
"I don't think so"
"I will destroy you and eat your children"
It is the frickin' Civil War of AP.net and is accomplishing nothing other than limiting my ability to locate news in one place, because everyone is fighting and not looking for news that my lazy ass chooses not to. HAHAHA
-Christian Coffey


ah but see, the actual replies (particularly frank's) were very funny and blunt

[YourLatestVicti]

I did find the find funny for a while until it got toe the point that like 25 out of 40 posts read like this:
"You said this"
"No I DIdn't"
"Yes you did"
"They suck"
"Yeah but not as much as you"
"But I don't suck as much as you do"
"Yes you do.....I mean.........you suck"
"But so do they"
"Not as much as you do"
"Yes huh..."
"No your retarded"
"No"
"Yes"
"I hold more music credibility than anyone on this board"
"Other than me"
"I rule you"
"Hey everyone, check out Your Name in Lights"
"They suck more than Your Name in Lights"
"No they don't"
"Yes huh...."
"I don't think so"
"I will destroy you and eat your children"
It is the frickin' Civil War of AP.net and is accomplishing nothing other than limiting my ability to locate news in one place, because everyone is fighting and not looking for news that my lazy ass chooses not to. HAHAHA
-Christian Coffey


This post made my night. I'm not sure if it was that funny or if I had an boring night. Either way it was hilarious.

[Scott Weber]

thats cool scott, but you didnt address the fact that you posted a thread, (one which you posted once already, a week ago) with the purpose of countering mine. (not picking a fight, by the way)
Oh, I totally posted that to counter yours. I didn't feel it gave a clear representation of what Gatsby's is like on stage (at least with my expierences) so I wanted to post about it. I also wasn't impressed with Circa at all and I thought it'd be interesting to show readers two different sides to the story. It ended up being a little more interesting than I thought, but yeah. It was essentially the same thing I posted in the replies of a thread last week.

[Christian]

I'm not stating who I believe had better arguments, even though I do believe someone was better, because it would simply start a fight over the legitimacy of someone's posts rather than a band, so hey lets just bash me if you want. I'm going to see Slipknot. It's free so I don't care. I have all access so I just wan to me Joey. HAHA
-Christian Coffey

[Signals Corrupted]

Oh, I totally posted that to counter yours. I didn't feel it gave a clear representation of what Gatsby's is like on stage (at least with my expierences) so I wanted to post about it. I also wasn't impressed with Circa at all and I thought it'd be interesting to show readers two different sides to the story. It ended up being a little more interesting than I thought, but yeah. It was essentially the same thing I posted in the replies of a thread last week.


i see. well thats what my intentions were too, i wanted to give a different point of view on gatsby's live show, which was just unfortunately unimpressive last night, for whatever reason.

well i just want to point out that you win no matter what, because these are two back to back gatsby posts that receiving a gazillion replies lol, which looks pretty cool for them.

[Christian]

I seriously can't type. I put wan to. I am so bored you don't even know. Hey BombOutofBibles, you were at the Chain show correct? Where were you. I was in the back during Circa and stage right taking pictures during Gatsby's
-Christian Coffey

[Signals Corrupted]

I seriously can't type. I put wan to. I am so bored you don't even know. Hey BombOutofBibles, you were at the Chain show correct? Where were you. I was in the back during Circa and stage right taking pictures during Gatsby's
-Christian Coffey

i was near the "bar" during circa and up front n center during gatsby

[Christian]

I was kinda by the bar for some of Circa. I was stading with the Saosin guys and Ken from 18 Visions
-Christian Coffey

[Signals Corrupted]

I was kinda by the bar for some of Circa. I was stading with the Saosin guys and Ken from 18 Visions
-Christian Coffey


did you talk to them? what'd they think of circa's performance?

[Christian]

I didn't talk to them afterwards but I was talking to them before hand. They're cool with it. My brother is goods friends with them so we we're talking with them before hand. I mean they were there to support Anthony. I'm sure it's still not a simple subject, but they have Cove now and things are done with. There isn't any going back and I think them showing up was a statement that what's done is done.
-Christian Coffey

[kevanu]

West Side Till I Die

[BrandNizzle]

There's no way I'm gonna take sides in an argument like this one, but I will say that I love Gatsbys American Dream.....I live on the east coast, and I know a ton of people like that like them as well. I don't think they're God's gift to mankind or anything, but they write some damn catchy songs that keep me addicted. I would love to see them live, and I also like Circa Survive...ticky ticky. (i was rapping just now)

^ that has nothing to do with anything. I just felt like posting at 2 in the morning.

[scorcho490]

There's no way I'm gonna take sides in an argument like this one, but I will say that I love Gatsbys American Dream.....I live on the east coast, and I know a ton of people like that like them as well. I don't think they're God's gift to mankind or anything, but they write some damn catchy songs that keep me addicted. I would love to see them live, and I also like Circa Survive...ticky ticky. (i was rapping just now)

^ that has nothing to do with anything. I just felt like posting at 2 in the morning.

Well, to be exact, they actually are God's gift to mankind, much like fire and Yoo-hoo.

[RUFiOOOOOOO]

Did anyone at the show happen to see two dudes in matching flower shirts? cuz I was one of those duuudes...

Oh yeah, it was rad when Anthony threw CDs out at the start of their set..one dude next to me caught one and it was The Sound of Animals fighting..hahaah

Anyway, I was up front during Circa Survive..it was fucking off the chain.

and damn I haven't posted here in over a year..shiiiet.

-Justin

[Signals Corrupted]

Did anyone at the show happen to see two dudes in matching flower shirts? cuz I was one of those duuudes...

Oh yeah, it was rad when Anthony threw CDs out at the start of their set..one dude next to me caught one and it was The Sound of Animals fighting..hahaah

Anyway, I was up front during Circa Survive..it was fucking off the chain.

and damn I haven't posted here in over a year..shiiiet.

-Justin


i saw you

[EvilButters]

What a letdown considering how awesome Gatsby's has been hyped up for their awesome live shows. Ah well, even the best bands have their shitty performances, right?

[RUFiOOOOOOO]

i saw you

fucking awesome..and holy shit dude..you're from West Covina!!! I'm from Walnut...a hop, skip, and jump from West Covina..

I'm Justin..I was the one with long hair! awwwwesome

[Im Not Scene]

Haha, 20 minute sets are what happens when a band has 2 minute songs.


haha, I bought their ep when it came out, and i was getting into the songs, and then i was like... Its over? My friend says that his band used to do that, and I called him a *****. Then I laughed.

[aboxforapiece]

im real excited to see circa survive, they are coming this sunday.
im glad to hear good things about the show so its something to look forward to.
i will definately be dancing to circa. :dweeba2:

[drumlife04]

anyone have the new gatsbys cd yet? could you send it to me if you do please? AIM: drumlife05

[Ambien]

Aren't too songs named after an xbox video game? that's pretty deep and heartfealt...i love gatsbys personally so you can't say shit. Just relax on the whole situation, not everybody will like every band no matter how good, heartfealt or whatever so there's no point in arguing something like that.