Dumb Films That Think They're Smart

[matt_rawlings]

What films have you seen that think they are increadibly intelligent but are in reality just stupid?

Remember - Spoiler tags on anything that could be seen as a spoiler

[SLoT]

Crash.

[matt_rawlings]

Eagle Eye


Stealing hand over fist from 2001 and North By Northwest does not make a smart film. Also, explaining your way out of literally every single contrived plot point by saying "The computer can do anything...seriously" gets boring after 15 minutes. Also, the entire assasination plot is so fucking heavy handed...there has got to be a simpler way to destroy a room than using a top secret crystal explosive that is increadibly traceable (its top secret and therefor only know of by a handful of people/one massive fucking computer)

[matt_rawlings]

Crash.

:appl:

My hatred for that film has not ceased

[Throwback]

Crash is atrocious and as soon as you say that you're a racist.

Bullshit.

[SLoT]

Wow, I thought I was going to get fucking dumped on for hating that movie. I'm definitley excited to find more people who hated this film.

[matt_rawlings]

The Jackal


The Jackal attempts the assassination of The First Lady of The United States by using a remote computer controlled machine gun mounted in a nondescript minivan across from the first lady. Alternatively, he could have just used a highly accurate sniper rifle (seems as he is one of the best snipers in the world), which would have been far more descrete, concealable and accurate. In order to get ahold of the parking space for the van with the massive mini-gun in it (bare with me), he begins a gay relationship with the man who owns the space

[matt_rawlings]

Equilibrium


Watching this last night, the dialogue is hilariously unaware of its own absurdity and the plot of the film is literally a mish mash of "Brave New World", "1984" and "Fahrenheit 451" with little to no acknowledgment of its own plagerism

[itsmesean0630]

Elephant.

Gus Van Sant tries to make a smart artistic film about the disturbance of a high school shooting but ends up making complete and utter garbage that people want to say is good because of it's touchy subject matter. By using "real kids" it supposed to seem more real, but the kids poor acting followed by poor effects result in a movie that truly drags on. Literally as many shots include kids just walking down halls.

[SLoT]

The Jackal


The Jackal attempts the assassination of The First Lady of The United States by using a remote computer controlled machine gun mounted in a nondescript minivan across from the first lady. Alternatively, he could have just used a highly accurate sniper rifle (seems as he is one of the best snipers in the world), which would have been far more descrete, concealable and accurate. In order to get ahold of the parking space for the van with the massive mini-gun in it (bare with me), he begins a gay relationship with the man who owns the space

This sounds terrible.

[SLoT]

Elephant.

Gus Van Sant tries to make a smart artistic film about the disturbance of a high school shooting but ends up making complete and utter garbage that people want to say is good because of it's touchy subject matter. By using "real kids" it supposed to seem more real, but the kids poor acting followed by poor effects result in a movie that truly drags on. Literally as many shots include kids just walking down halls.

That fucking movie is the same 15 minutes replayed for an hour and a half. Worthy of being in this thread. Possibly top 10 of all time.

[matt_rawlings]

Crash is atrocious and as soon as you say that you're a racist.

Bullshit.


Agreed. Apparently I "didn't understand it's message" (according to some people in my media and society class). Yep, as a university major in Film (in which I excell in textual analysis) I am unable to see past the bullshit lead footed crotch kick every 47 seconds in that film that may as well scar the words "Racism" and "Discrimination" on my nut sack for all eternity

Wow, I thought I was going to get fucking dumped on for hating that movie. I'm definitley excited to find more people who hated this film.

There is a thread I made a year or so about it that was recently bumped by someone in which the general feeling was that it is disgustingly overrated

[jwsmith01]

The Happening...

worst hour and a half or so of my life...

[SLoT]

Agreed. Apparently I "didn't understand it's message" (according to some people in my media and society class). Yep, as a university major in Film (in which I excell in textual analysis) I am unable to see past the bullshit lead footed crotch kick every 47 seconds in that film that may as well scar the words "Racism" and "Discrimination" on my nut sack for all eternity



There is a thread I made a year or so about it that was recently bumped by someone in which the general feeling was that it is disgustingly overrated
Oh thank god.

[SLoT]

The Happening...

worst hour and a half or so of my life...
Good one. I was originally going to say this. Walhberg was such a pussy in this movie (which doesn't really have any bearing on it either way) it's just something else to add to it's overall fail.

[jwsmith01]

Good one. I was originally going to say this. Walhberg was such a pussy in this movie (which doesn't really have any bearing on it either way) it's just something else to add to it's overall fail.

The movie was so horrible in so many aspects. Walhberg was so bad, and the subplot with his wife and the Joey guy on the cell phone... that was just f'n pointless. That and the whole "Happening" stopping just in time was just frustrating... I wished everyone was dead in that movie and the movie never existed...

[matt_rawlings]

Elephant.

Gus Van Sant tries to make a smart artistic film about the disturbance of a high school shooting but ends up making complete and utter garbage that people want to say is good because of it's touchy subject matter. By using "real kids" it supposed to seem more real, but the kids poor acting followed by poor effects result in a movie that truly drags on. Literally as many shots include kids just walking down halls.

That fucking movie is the same 15 minutes replayed for an hour and a half. Worthy of being in this thread. Possibly top 10 of all time.



As pretentious as it sounds, you really aren't supposed to 'enjoy' that film. I'll give my take on it, because I actually wrote a 3000 word paper on it last semester.

Van Sant tends to specialise in realist pieces which are meant to portray a social problem and examine it without adding in outlandish (ie Hollywood norm) plot developments in order to sell the message. That's why it raises many points as to what could have driven the boys to kill (video games, music, satan, confused sexuality, alienation are all touched on but only lightly).

The reason not much happens is because it was just a normal day at highschool, with jocks impressing dumb girls etc, the geek being shunned. Essentially archetypes and emblematic of the majority of highschool social structures.

I think it isn't an easy film or even an inherintly likable film (it does test the viewers patience), but it isn't a stupid film by any means

[OdeToTheSun]

The Happening...

worst hour and a half or so of my life...
I feel your pain.

[itsmesean0630]

As pretentious as it sounds, you really aren't supposed to 'enjoy' that film. I'll give my take on it, because I actually wrote a 3000 word paper on it last semester.

Van Sant tends to specialise in realist pieces which are meant to portray a social problem and examine it without adding in outlandish (ie Hollywood norm) plot developments in order to sell the message. That's why it raises many points as to what could have driven the boys to kill (video games, music, satan, confused sexuality, alienation are all touched on but only lightly).

The reason not much happens is because it was just a normal day at highschool, with jocks impressing dumb girls etc, the geek being shunned. Essentially archetypes and emblematic of the majority of highschool social structures.

I think it isn't an easy film or even an inherintly likable film (it does test the viewers patience), but it isn't a stupid film by any means
Let me just say, that I have argued over this movie many many times, on IMDb and with friends and this is the most logical explanation for this movie.

That being said, I still feel it's truly awful.

[matt_rawlings]

The Happening...

worst hour and a half or so of my life...

Good one. I was originally going to say this. Walhberg was such a pussy in this movie (which doesn't really have any bearing on it either way) it's just something else to add to it's overall fail.

One of the reasons I started this thread;


"Holy shit, tree's and plants are releasing chemicle compounds which kill us. Quick! Let's run into areas filled with trees and plants!"

[dissident]

crash was more racist than the characters it was portraying, the idea that people even say some of that shit to minorities faces all the time is laughable. most bigots don't have the balls.

[SLoT]

As pretentious as it sounds, you really aren't supposed to 'enjoy' that film. I'll give my take on it, because I actually wrote a 3000 word paper on it last semester.

Van Sant tends to specialise in realist pieces which are meant to portray a social problem and examine it without adding in outlandish (ie Hollywood norm) plot developments in order to sell the message. That's why it raises many points as to what could have driven the boys to kill (video games, music, satan, confused sexuality, alienation are all touched on but only lightly).

The reason not much happens is because it was just a normal day at highschool, with jocks impressing dumb girls etc, the geek being shunned. Essentially archetypes and emblematic of the majority of highschool social structures.

I think it isn't an easy film or even an inherintly likable film (it does test the viewers patience), but it isn't a stupid film by any means
Nice points. I figured when I saw it that I wasn't supposed to enjoy it like a Will Smith flick or something, but as it drug out I felt that all of that was unnecessary. I got the point of the movie (well the way it was made) when it switched to the second kid. I felt the movie was dumb because it could've been a short, and held the attention of what I'm guessing would've been a large amount of people who've seen the movie. I do enjoy what you wrote about it though. Maybe it's a bit of both.

[Justin_stacy]

Elephant.

Gus Van Sant tries to make a smart artistic film about the disturbance of a high school shooting but ends up making complete and utter garbage that people want to say is good because of it's touchy subject matter. By using "real kids" it supposed to seem more real, but the kids poor acting followed by poor effects result in a movie that truly drags on. Literally as many shots include kids just walking down halls.

Absolutely true, Elephant was a boring mess. Hell Uwe Boll's film on the same topic was ten times better.

You know your film is crap if you're out done by Uwe.

[Smithers]

Elephant.

Gus Van Sant tries to make a smart artistic film about the disturbance of a high school shooting but ends up making complete and utter garbage that people want to say is good because of it's touchy subject matter. By using "real kids" it supposed to seem more real, but the kids poor acting followed by poor effects result in a movie that truly drags on. Literally as many shots include kids just walking down halls.

Elephant was awful. It was all about the beforemath and the aftermath.

the math itself, is NOWHERE to be seen. weak.

[matt_rawlings]

Elephant was awful. It was all about the beforemath and the aftermath.

the math itself, is NOWHERE to be seen. weak.

It isn't about the aftermath. At all

The aftermath of highschool shootings tends to be media witch hunts, passing the buck as well as congressional discussion on the proliferating aliention of the 'youth of today'. The film ends on a barron skyscape while the shooting is still taking place.

The film ends before the diagetic world within the film outwith of the school bounds has become aware of the massacre

[dissident]

plus you can't really focus on the actual shooting itself, no studio is going to distribute a film full of high schoolers getting slaughtered in a realistic tone like that.

[MADSTA]

Elephant.

Gus Van Sant tries to make a smart artistic film about the disturbance of a high school shooting but ends up making complete and utter garbage that people want to say is good because of it's touchy subject matter. By using "real kids" it supposed to seem more real, but the kids poor acting followed by poor effects result in a movie that truly drags on. Literally as many shots include kids just walking down halls.
I liked that movie. :shrug:

[chronomic]

whats so awful about crash? ive never seen it fully but i do know it won best picture, so i can't be THAT terrible. in fact, the 20 min or so that i did see kept my attention.

[dissident]

it's over the top and absurd.

[middlenameboom]

The Happening...

worst hour and a half or so of my life...

Good one. I was originally going to say this. Walhberg was such a pussy in this movie (which doesn't really have any bearing on it either way) it's just something else to add to it's overall fail.

This movie actually doesn't work at all. The Happening is supposed to be a parody on a B-Movie. So in actuality all the things you mention are correct. The plot is supposed to be laughable, and the acting is supposed to be bad. It was all on purpose. If you know everything about the movie is supposed to be goofy the movie is much more enjoyable.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

lol at Crash being the first to be named. I came here to say that and The Happening as well.

Also, the Saw movies and Godsend. Basically just about anything that comes out of Lionsgate.

I'm waiting for people to say Donnie Darko, Juno, Requiem For a Dream, etc.

[SLoT]

This movie actually doesn't work at all. The Happening is supposed to be a parody on a B-Movie. So in actuality all the things you mention are correct. The plot is supposed to be laughable, and the acting is supposed to be bad. It was all on purpose. If you know everything about the movie is supposed to be goofy the movie is much more enjoyable.
Didn't know that. It might've done better if this was known to the masses. Oh well. Still fucking stupid.
lol at Crash being the first to be named. I came here to say that and The Happening as well.

Also, the Saw movies and Godsend. Basically just about anything that comes out of Lionsgate.

I'm waiting for people to say Donnie Darko, Juno, Requiem For a Dream, etc.
I was going to say Requiem, but I only saw like 30 minutes of it, and of those 30 I saw 30 were fucking horrendous and made me question why someone would've even made it in the first place.

[ActionActionFan]

The Village

[notoaststereo]

Equilibrium


Watching this last night, the dialogue is hilariously unaware of its own absurdity and the plot of the film is literally a mish mash of "Brave New World", "1984" and "Fahrenheit 451" with little to no acknowledgment of its own plagerism

agreed. my friend loves the movie and i can't convince him that its just not good.

[middlenameboom]

Didn't know that. It might've done better if this was known to the masses. Oh well. Still fucking stupid.


Yah, I thought so too.

[eraserhead]

The Village
I will defend this movie to the death, haha...I didn't really think that movie was trying to be smart, there are much worse M. Night Shyamalan movies to pick, for example

Unbreakable
Lady In the Water (definitely my top pick for this thread)
The Happening

[Cheshire_Buddha]

I will defend this movie to the death, haha...I didn't really think that movie was trying to be smart, there are much worse M. Night Shyamalan movies to pick, for example

Unbreakable
Lady In the Water (definitely my top pick for this thread)
The Happening

I will fight you. Loved Unbreakable.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

I will fight you. Loved Unbreakable.
Haha, I had the same reaction. I loved Unbreakable as well. I know people who hate it though...and now I apparently know of one more.

[TJ Wells]

whats so awful about crash? ive never seen it fully but i do know it won best picture, so i can't be THAT terrible. in fact, the 20 min or so that i did see kept my attention.
It's also the biggest fuckup the Academy has ever made.

[Mitch]

Lucky Number Slevin.

Fuck that film.

[Mitch]

Oh, and Shooter, if that counts as thinking it's smart.

[ActionActionFan]

I will defend this movie to the death, haha...I didn't really think that movie was trying to be smart, there are much worse M. Night Shyamalan movies to pick, for example

Unbreakable
Lady In the Water (definitely my top pick for this thread)
The Happening

I actually haven't seen any of those. The only other M. Night Shyamalan movies that I have seen are The Sixth Sense and Signs.

[Smash Adams]

Happy Feet

it so quickly goes from singing dancing penguins to being about global warming and how we shouldn't put animals in zoos wtf, pretty much any movie with a message thrown in it without proper introduction fits in this category

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

Happy Feet

it so quickly goes from singing dancing penguins to being about global warming and how we shouldn't put animals in zoos wtf, pretty much any movie with a message thrown in it without proper introduction fits in this category
YES. Those were my exact thoughts upon watching that movie. There wasn't even really a strong plot to it....the first 3/4 of the movie are about some penguins dancing and then BOOM, global warming message out of nowhere.
That was such a bizarre movie.

[Jessooker]

happy feet sucked.

[Throwback]

The Happening...

worst hour and a half or so of my life...
See also: M. Night's entire career. Dude's a hack.

[aolsux]

Juno is the childish ramblings of an ex-stripper. It lost it's quirkiness in the first ten minutes. And I hate the argument pro-lifers are using saying that this movie is anti-abortion. Plus anyone who thinks the phrase "honest to blog" is funny.

[domotime2]

the happening was trying to be smart? im confused.


and ill be the odd man out again, sigh, I didnt have a problem with Crash at all....I feel like people are forcing themselves to hate it. I thought the message was clear, the story was well told, the characters were interesitng...and to say its over the top is non-sense, a lot of that stuff does happen. It was a movie about first impressions, and stuff I liked it.

I agree about elefant, although i dont mind it as much now when I watch it on IO or whatever.

I like to pick a movie more like Igby Goes down or I heart huckabees....mostly Igbee. I hate "witty", screwed-up, teen dramas so much...... that an "indie" dysfunctional family films really get my goat.

[middlenameboom]

Juno is the childish ramblings of an ex-stripper. It lost it's quirkiness in the first ten minutes. And I hate the argument pro-lifers are using saying that this movie is anti-abortion. Plus anyone who thinks the phrase "honest to blog" is funny.

How many of your movies have been nominated for academy awards?

[PaulsRightNut]

contact

I waited like 3 hours to see some aliens and it ends up being her dead dad. I know its based on a book but I didnt like it one bit

[IF_YOU_LIE]

Happy Feet was very stupid.
And I disliked Crash too. I watched it because it had won an Academy Award so I figured it had to be somewhat good, even if there's Sandra Bullock in it. I was wrong.
And speaking of Sandra Bullock, has anyone seen Murder by Numbers? Because it was absolutely a dumb trying to be smart film.

[PaulsRightNut]

I enjoyed murder by numbers :shrug:

[absolutecrunk]

I'm waiting for people to say Donnie Darko, Juno, Requiem For a Dream, etc.
I'll go for DD and Juno. Requiem was pretty good, though.

[eraserhead]

I actually haven't seen any of those. The only other M. Night Shyamalan movies that I have seen are The Sixth Sense and Signs.
That's a good thing, don't bother seeing Lady in the Water or The Happening. Unbreakable's actually not that bad.

[eraserhead]

I'm waiting for people to say Donnie Darko, Juno, Requiem For a Dream, etc.
That movie is 100% legit, not dumb in the least.

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Juno is the childish ramblings of an ex-stripper. It lost it's quirkiness in the first ten minutes. And I hate the argument pro-lifers are using saying that this movie is anti-abortion. Plus anyone who thinks the phrase "honest to blog" is funny.

Worst line in the movie.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

That movie is 100% legit, not dumb in the least.
Well I was just throwing it out there. There are a few key movies this site is fairly split over and that's one of them.

[Jessooker]

I enjoyed murder by numbers :shrug:

so did i. i really like gosling and pitt.

[absolutecrunk]

Juno is the childish ramblings of an ex-stripper. It lost it's quirkiness in the first ten minutes. And I hate the argument pro-lifers are using saying that this movie is anti-abortion. Plus anyone who thinks the phrase "honest to blog" is funny.
All of this. It's as if the writer compiled a list of quirky things that would sound funny in a movie and then spent them all in the first few pages of a script. By the time she realized the plot actually suggests a more emotional meaning, the movie was already far too confused.

[eraserhead]

Well I was just throwing it out there. There are a few key movies this site is fairly split over and that's one of them.
Really? I thought that was one of the few universally liked movies on this site, haha

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

Really? I thought that was one of the few universally liked movies on this site, haha
Haha, well don't get me wrong, there are many people here who like it. If you search for Requiem For a Dream in the entertainment forum however, you'll find about ten different threads devoted to the movie and coupled with those threads is a lot of negativity. The general critique thrown at it around here is usually that it's "overrated."

[Gaugzilla]

Boon Dock Saints. Everybody I went to college with thought that was the be-all to end-all. I thought it was an okay action picture, but everyone says how smart, witty and awesome it was. I just don't see it.

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Boon Dock Saints. Everybody I went to college with thought that was the be-all to end-all. I thought it was an okay action picture, but everyone says how smart, witty and awesome it was. I just don't see it.

Fuck Troy Duffy.

[eraserhead]

Boon Dock Saints. Everybody I went to college with thought that was the be-all to end-all. I thought it was an okay action picture, but everyone says how smart, witty and awesome it was. I just don't see it.
It's really not that great of a film. It's entertaining but in terms of filmmaking it's actually very poorly done.

[middlenameboom]

Boon Dock Saints. Everybody I went to college with thought that was the be-all to end-all. I thought it was an okay action picture, but everyone says how smart, witty and awesome it was. I just don't see it.

Completely agree.

[domotime2]

lol at Crash being the first to be named. I came here to say that and The Happening as well.

Also, the Saw movies and Godsend. Basically just about anything that comes out of Lionsgate.

I'm waiting for people to say Donnie Darko, Juno, Requiem For a Dream, etc.
saw is good, darko is good, juno was what it was, requiem i think gets a little bit too much hype

[pyrospartan]

Bug

the end

[irthesteve]

Lucky Number Slevin.

Fuck that film.
really? i love that one

[Prestonxsmith]

The Dark Knight

My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'. I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? Fuck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from.

[Ailite]

I love Fight Club, but I can easily see how someone could lump it into this category.
Oh and Happy Feet, that movie is ridiculous

[Cheshire_Buddha]

The Dark Knight

My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'. I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? Fuck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from.

The Dark Knight hype is overrated, but I found it to be not only a great superhero film, but a great crime movie.

[just.Starla.]

Elephant.

Gus Van Sant tries to make a smart artistic film about the disturbance of a high school shooting but ends up making complete and utter garbage that people want to say is good because of it's touchy subject matter. By using "real kids" it supposed to seem more real, but the kids poor acting followed by poor effects result in a movie that truly drags on. Literally as many shots include kids just walking down halls.
Agreed. One of the only scenes I can remember from this movie is the one where the two guys who are doing the shooting step in the shower together. I don't even understand how that fits into this movie at all.:shrug:

Regardless, horrible film.

Also, "Wild Tigers I Have Known". This movie tries to be hip and smart, but it is horrible. I never even understood the point of any of it.

[aolsux]

How many of your movies have been nominated for academy awards?
I got 5th place in a film festival for my last film. Serious.
All of this. It's as if the writer compiled a list of quirky things that would sound funny in a movie and then spent them all in the first few pages of a script. By the time she realized the plot actually suggests a more emotional meaning, the movie was already far too confused.
Yeah, it had the possibility to be a good film and it spent up too much on inventive one liners and pop culture references.

[gilatron5000]

I liked Crash. But I will not defend it.

Equilibrium


Watching this last night, the dialogue is hilariously unaware of its own absurdity and the plot of the film is literally a mish mash of "Brave New World", "1984" and "Fahrenheit 451" with little to no acknowledgment of its own plagerismYES. My friend loves that movie to death. But I watched it, and wanted to die.

I will defend this movie to the death, haha...I didn't really think that movie was trying to be smart, there are much worse M. Night Shyamalan movies to pick, for example

Unbreakable
Lady In the Water (definitely my top pick for this thread)
The HappeningI liked Unbreakable and even Lady In The Water. I never saw The Village or The Happening though.

contact

I waited like 3 hours to see some aliens and it ends up being her dead dad. I know its based on a book but I didnt like it one bithahahahahaha

that so reminds me of South Park.

[CstSnow]

The Dark Knight

My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'. I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? Fuck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from.

Worst post in this whole thread, and not because you didnt like the film, but because you are dumbass.

My vote goes to Vanilla Sky, forget about Elizabethtown (which I actually really enjoyed) this is by far Cameron Crowes biggest fuckup. Its honestly pretty unwatchable.

As for M Night, I really enjoyed the Village, and everything prior, especially Unbreakable, but everything since has been a trainwreck.

[domotime2]

Bug

the end
aw i liked bug. not loved...but liked.

[AShannon04]

Worst post in this whole thread, and not because you didnt like the film, but because you are dumbass.

My vote goes to Vanilla Sky, forget about Elizabethtown (which I actually really enjoyed) this is by far Cameron Crowes biggest fuckup. Its honestly pretty unwatchable.

As for M Night, I really enjoyed the Village, and everything prior, especially Unbreakable, but everything since has been a trainwreck.

Haha, I loved Vanilla Sky

[CstSnow]

Haha, I loved Vanilla Sky

Really?
My wife does too, so maybe its just me haha.

[AShannon04]

Really?
My wife does too, so maybe its just me haha.

No, I don't think it's just you. I think it's pretty much universally hated, and was considered a huge step down from Almost Famous. I really like it though, for some reason.

[bradyreier]

The Dark Knight

My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'. I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? Fuck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from.
Haha, isn't this what RDJ said?

[ThisIsNotDan]

Paranoid Park

I was expecting a good movie about a skater kid who accidently kills a man and suffers the consequences, but this was a grade-A clunker

also, I'll nominate Dan In Real Life as well

[CstSnow]

Paranoid Park

I was expecting a good movie about a skater kid who accidently kills a man and suffers the consequences, but this was a grade-A clunker

also, I'll nominate Dan In Real Life as well

I enjoyed Dan in Real Life, the music was wonderful I love Sondre Lerche

[ThisIsNotDan]

I enjoyed Dan in Real Life, the music was wonderful I love Sondre Lerche

the soundtrack was far and above the best part of the movies, GREAT music.

but yeah, movie was falsely advertised and it just bothered me in general. didn't go anywhere for me

[TK]

Pirates of the Caribbean 2 & 3
The Number 23

[domotime2]

im sure people will disagree with me...

but i feel like Nick and Norah was made as a "smart" film.

although, i found it to be dumb. done.

[dissident]

How many of your movies have been nominated for academy awards?

fuck this argument and anyone who uses it. please...

[dissident]

Pirates of the Caribbean 2 & 3
The Number 23

ok now we're just naming movies that aren't very good. these weren't made to be "smart"

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

Pi.

[cheezwhiz]

Haha, isn't this what RDJ said?

haha no wonder it sounded so familiar. On the topic of Robert Downey Jr, I just saw Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I loved it, couldn't stop laughing.

[a speedo model]

My vote goes to Vanilla Sky, forget about Elizabethtown (which I actually really enjoyed) this is by far Cameron Crowes biggest fuckup. Its honestly pretty unwatchable.

I fucking love this movie. :shrug:

[domotime2]

Pi.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! WINNER

[notoaststereo]

Paranoid Park

I was expecting a good movie about a skater kid who accidently kills a man and suffers the consequences, but this was a grade-A clunker

also, I'll nominate Dan In Real Life as welli saw gonna say the same thing about PP. me, my mom and sister went to see it thinking it was going to be awesome and we came out so disappointed.

[terrycw89]

I was disappointed with Paranoid Park, but I think it was still a good movie. It just wasn't what I thought it would be.

[xBITCHxPLEASEx]

Smart People if it hasn't been said.

The most pretentious movie I've ever seen. I didn't get half do the dialogue.

[stayillogical]

The Dark Knight

My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'. I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? Fuck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from.

Worst post in this whole thread, and not because you didnt like the film, but because you are dumbass.

My vote goes to Vanilla Sky, forget about Elizabethtown (which I actually really enjoyed) this is by far Cameron Crowes biggest fuckup. Its honestly pretty unwatchable.

As for M Night, I really enjoyed the Village, and everything prior, especially Unbreakable, but everything since has been a trainwreck.

Haha, isn't this what RDJ said?

Yes, top post is exactly what Robert Downey Jr said. People clearly missed the joke and bravo to RDJ for giving an honest opinion.

[SLoT]

Southland Tales

I shut that shit off about 45 minutes into it.

[aolsux]

Southland Tales

I shut that shit off about 45 minutes into it.
Riding off his post-sucess of Donnie Darko (not a dumb film that thinks it's smart), Kelly wrote and directed this massacre. It's not as much dumb as it is boring as hell. The only real redeeming factor is the fact Moby did the whole soundtrack.

[aolsux]

Vanilla Sky was phenomenal, fuck the haters.

[SLoT]

Riding off his post-sucess of Donnie Darko (not a dumb film that thinks it's smart), Kelly wrote and directed this massacre. It's not as much dumb as it is boring as hell. The only real redeeming factor is the fact Moby did the whole soundtrack.
I'll agree with you on the not so much dumb as it is boring as hell part. Although I still think it was stupid, it was ranked way up there in horribly boring.

[pilot_light_out]

Cloverfield?

[just.Starla.]

Paranoid Park

I was expecting a good movie about a skater kid who accidently kills a man and suffers the consequences, but this was a grade-A clunker

also, I'll nominate Dan In Real Life as well
Paranoid Park really? I was going to rent that. Is it really that bad?

[eMart]

Bug

the end I loved Bug. I think the marketing is what ruined it.

My vote goes to Vanilla Sky, forget about Elizabethtown (which I actually really enjoyed) this is by far Cameron Crowes biggest fuckup. Its honestly pretty unwatchable.Not a big fan of Crowe's (yes that includes Almost Famous) but I really enjoyed Vanilla Sky. I absolutely hated Elizabethtown, if I wasn't on a date I would've walked out of that shitfest.

I'd like to nominated "I'm Not There" I don't care what anyone says, aside from the performances, that movie fucking sucked.

[popdisaster00]

Smart People if it hasn't been said.

The most pretentious movie I've ever seen. I didn't get half do the dialogue.
Yeah, I really wanted to like that movie..but not so much. Thomas Hayden Church was great in it though.

EDIT: Another reason it sucked:

http://www.sarahjessicaparkerlookslikeahor se.com/

[prlyknitswtr]

Requiem for a Dream i thought was pretty horrible. That movie along with Donnie Darko are types of movies that people tend to over analyze.

oh and i know i will probably be hated for saying this, but a lot of more recent Bill Murray movies, such as Broken Flowers, Lost in Translation....and Darjeeling Limited, he is only in it for a few minutes but i cant stand Jason Schwartzman haha he should have stayed with Phantom Planet and gave up acting.

[prlyknitswtr]

actually most Wes Andersen movies.

[just.Starla.]

Requiem for a Dream i thought was pretty horrible. That movie along with Donnie Darko are types of movies that people tend to over analyze.

oh and i know i will probably be hated for saying this, but a lot of more recent Bill Murray movies, such as Broken Flowers, Lost in Translation....and Darjeeling Limited, he is only in it for a few minutes but i cant stand Jason Schwartzman haha he should have stayed with Phantom Planet and gave up acting.


Agreed with Lost In Translation, it was okay, but not as great as everybody said it was.

Yeah, I miss when Jason was in Phantom Planet. I'm not a fan of most of his movies like "I Heart Huckabees", but I did like "Rushmore"

[prlyknitswtr]

i heart huckabees was good for one reason...mark wahlberg his character was frickin hilarious.

[berskyjr]

dark knight?

[just.Starla.]

i heart huckabees was good for one reason...mark wahlberg his character was frickin hilarious.
I just could not get into that movie at all

[prlyknitswtr]

I just could not get into that movie at all

well his character was one of the reasons i actually liked it. but whenever i see Jason Schwartzman i kinda get leery about the movie. but the actual premise was ridiculous.

Having someone solve your "coincidence" is kinda over the top and weird. on top of that his so called coincidence was that a 7 foot very dark african man was seemingly following him around haha.

[just.Starla.]

well his character was one of the reasons i actually liked it. but whenever i see Jason Schwartzman i kinda get leery about the movie. but the actual premise was ridiculous.

Having someone solve your "coincidence" is kinda over the top and weird. on top of that his so called coincidence was that a 7 foot very dark african man was seemingly following him around haha.
WTF???
hahaha yeah, I've seen this on IFC a couple of times, but I got bored during the first 15 or so minutes, so I've never actually seen all of it

[prlyknitswtr]

WTF???
hahaha yeah, I've seen this on IFC a couple of times, but I got bored during the first 15 or so minutes, so I've never actually seen all of it

haha yea its as crazy as it sounds, Dustin Hoffman is his Doctor and tries to help him with everything. Then Jason gets paired up with Wahlberg and from then on the movie is pretty funny. that is if you can get past the weirdness of it all.

worth a watch IMO

[just.Starla.]

haha yea its as crazy as it sounds, Dustin Hoffman is his Doctor and tries to help him with everything. Then Jason gets paired up with Wahlberg and from then on the movie is pretty funny. that is if you can get past the weirdness of it all.

worth a watch IMO
Ahh, I see. The next time its on, I'll watch if I have time.

[dissident]

Yes, top post is exactly what Robert Downey Jr said. People clearly missed the joke and bravo to RDJ for giving an honest opinion.

props to him for being honest but i don't respect his opinion for the sole reason he even admitted he doesn't understand what happened in the movie. it's not that difficult to follow and clearly he's not the brightest bulb.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Paranoid Park really? I was going to rent that. Is it really that bad?

you should rent it, but I'd rent another too incase you hate it

[chronomic]

im gonna have to disagree with lost in translation. it rings true to the feeling of being alone in a different kind of world. i liked it even more after i got to visit tokyo.

[chokeychicken]

Elephant.

Gus Van Sant tries to make a smart artistic film about the disturbance of a high school shooting but ends up making complete and utter garbage that people want to say is good because of it's touchy subject matter. By using "real kids" it supposed to seem more real, but the kids poor acting followed by poor effects result in a movie that truly drags on. Literally as many shots include kids just walking down halls.

stupid. this film is suburb.

[chokeychicken]

Requiem for a Dream i thought was pretty horrible. That movie along with Donnie Darko are types of movies that people tend to over analyze.

oh and i know i will probably be hated for saying this, but a lot of more recent Bill Murray movies, such as Broken Flowers, Lost in Translation....and Darjeeling Limited, he is only in it for a few minutes but i cant stand Jason Schwartzman haha he should have stayed with Phantom Planet and gave up acting.

you think requiem for a dream is overanalyzed? one of the most complex and awe-inspiring drug movies of the last 10 years?

are you fucking nuts?

the cinematography in that movie is absolutely mind blowing, as is the acting. get the hell out of here with this bullshit.

[chronomic]

you think requiem for a dream is overanalyzed? one of the most complex and awe-inspiring drug movies of the last 10 years?

are you fucking nuts?

the cinematography in that movie is absolutely mind blowing, as is the acting. get the hell out of here with this bullshit.

i feel it's hard sometimes to get into a movie knowing how much people blow their loads all over it. regardless of how good it actually is.

i had the same reaction to requiem for a dream upon the first viewing, because i had already made up my mind that i didn't like it from all the people who spoke so highly of it. when i saw it again my mind was changed cuz my biases left me over time.

that doesn't mean i want to see it for a third time though, haha. it's a pretty sick movie.

[prlyknitswtr]

you think requiem for a dream is overanalyzed? one of the most complex and awe-inspiring drug movies of the last 10 years?

are you fucking nuts?

the cinematography in that movie is absolutely mind blowing, as is the acting. get the hell out of here with this bullshit.

those are the only correct statements of ur post

[prlyknitswtr]

people tried to get more out of that movie than was really there. just because it was an Aronofsky movie people thought it was the greatest thing put on film.

[domotime2]

i loved southland tales.

[believethehyph]

Smokin' Aces, awful movie.

[clandestinerdc]

Thumbsucker
The Chumscrubber

[AShannon04]

Smokin' Aces, awful movie.

It doesn't really purport to be anything more than a basic shoot 'em up action movie, does it?

[chronomic]

It doesn't really purport to be anything more than a basic shoot 'em up action movie, does it?

yeah i agree. not saying it was good though

[AShannon04]

yeah i agree. not saying it was good though

oh definitely. It was not a good movie by any means.

[krishasaheadake]

Donnie Darko for me. I never found any fulfillment in the movie.

[chokeychicken]

Thumbsucker
The Chumscrubber

the chumscrubber was fucking terrible. i wanted to kill somebody after i saw that movie to make up for how bad it was.

[DudeNateIsSoRad]

Saw 5

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Smokin' Aces, awful movie.

Smokin' Aces wouldn't have been as bad if it had lived up on it's promise of being a balls-to-the-wall action flick. I was expecting millions of bullets and tons of bodies, not one decent shoot out.

[just.Starla.]

Thumbsucker
The Chumscrubber

Thumbsucker really? I liked that movie.

the chumscrubber was fucking terrible. i wanted to kill somebody after i saw that movie to make up for how bad it was.

Was it really that bad?

[pshh]

i heart huckabees was good for one reason...mark wahlberg his character was frickin hilarious.

you just didn't get it..

[domotime2]

you just didn't get it..
i heart huckabees was definitely "corky" but that was mostly because of the awesome cast, the substance and language of the film just bothered me.

[crack n toast]

No Country For Old Men, i felt like it tried to be something more, but it was still pretty awesome wit hthat airgun thing. huh.

[prlyknitswtr]

you just didn't get it..

explain to me then....how do u make any sort of "sense" out of what was happening. i mean come on i guy sees a certain person all the time, everywhere he goes, and he calls it a coincidence? is it too far fetched to say that if you live in the same area as someone, you may see them often?

but then on top of that he goes to a specialist to help him with a "coincidence", what the hell kind of help could you get for something like that?

bottom line is that the movie was trying very hard to be "weird" or "deep".

explain to me the "meaning" of this film if you'de be so kind, and since i "didnt get it".

[OldJersey]

I think someone said Equilibrium already, but the movie is really actually retarded. The plot of the movie, while yes pretty unoriginal, could of been easily made into a great movie, but no Equilibrium just failed in everyway.

[prlyknitswtr]

I think someone said Equilibrium already, but the movie is really actually retarded. The plot of the movie, while yes pretty unoriginal, could of been easily made into a great movie, but no Equilibrium just failed in everyway.

Christian Bale was playing almost the same character as on American Psycho, cold hearted killer, except in Equilibrium he wasnt sadistic.

but come on the movie wasnt "that" bad.

[OldJersey]

Christian Bale was playing almost the same character as on American Psycho, cold hearted killer, except in Equilibrium he wasnt sadistic.

but come on the movie wasnt "that" bad.

I really think it was that bad. I sat there the whole movie just waiting for some actual fucking action to go on and it just never really happened. Maybe a tad bit but nothing worth remembering, or ever watching again.

[Prestonxsmith]

Yes, top post is exactly what Robert Downey Jr said. People clearly missed the joke and bravo to RDJ for giving an honest opinion.
I was hoping someone would get the joke, but I saw this thread and thought RDJ's thoughts fit perfectly. I do not agree with his comment at all. It is pretty much the exact opposite for me. I just thought people would recognize it and find it to be funny and fitting.

[prlyknitswtr]

the dark knight would have been better without heath IMO, someone more sadistic.

[fadedmemories]

Super Size Me

[OldJersey]

Super Size Me


How so..?

[blinkme]

Good one. I was originally going to say this. Walhberg was such a pussy in this movie (which doesn't really have any bearing on it either way) it's just something else to add to it's overall fail.

haha, i agree. that film is terrible, i only went to see it as i had some time to burn before a flight home. the only bit of any worth at all is when he talks about going to the pharmacy. other than that, 'the happening' is one of my most hated films ever.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

Maybe the first Hulk film? I know some people are fairly split on that movie, but I think maybe it could fit here.

[fadedmemories]

How so..?
I just thought so

[chokeychicken]

I just thought so

it was a fucking documentary. are you dumb?

[OldJersey]

it was a fucking documentary. are you dumb?

My thoughts exactly.

[ACA]

Happy Feet

Absolute trainwreck. Watched it with my girlfriend at the time (she loves penguins) and it was fucking brutal.

-ACA

[fadedmemories]

it was a fucking documentary. are you dumb?
Nope, I'm just saying, I thought it was stupid, didn't people already know that eating too much fastfood will make them fat?

[domotime2]

Nope, I'm just saying, I thought it was stupid, didn't people already know that eating too much fastfood will make them fat?
oh wow why didnt i think of this one.

I was so against this film when it came out! it was the most RIDICULOUS OBVIOUS DOCUMENTARY OF ALL TIME....

Hey Guys, Did you know that if you hate Mc Donalds 3 times a day, and ordered really heavy stuff every time..... ITS UNHEALTHY? NO WAY!? it is? haha damnit, thanks bro for making a movie to make me see this.

[OldJersey]

Nope, I'm just saying, I thought it was stupid, didn't people already know that eating too much fastfood will make them fat?

oh wow why didnt i think of this one.

I was so against this film when it came out! it was the most RIDICULOUS OBVIOUS DOCUMENTARY OF ALL TIME....

Hey Guys, Did you know that if you hate Mc Donalds 3 times a day, and ordered really heavy stuff every time..... ITS UNHEALTHY? NO WAY!? it is? haha damnit, thanks bro for making a movie to make me see this.


That wasn't the main point of the movie....

The point of the movie was to show that you really shouldn't EVER eat fast food, him doing it for 30 days was simply an original idea to make the movie interesting but when you watch the movie its more about how we are getting fatter as a nation and its becoming a huge problem and becoming (and i believe is) a leader of deaths in our country. It isn't a fucking movie with just him eating fast food all damn day, there is plenty of interesting useful facts and information that he was just trying to get out to the fattest goddamn nation in the world.

[domotime2]

That wasn't the main point of the movie....

The point of the movie was to show that you really shouldn't EVER eat fast food, him doing it for 30 days was simply an original idea to make the movie interesting but when you watch the movie its more about how we are getting fatter as a nation and its becoming a huge problem and becoming (and i believe is) a leader of deaths in our country. It isn't a fucking movie with just him eating fast food all damn day, there is plenty of interesting useful facts and information that he was just trying to get out to the fattest goddamn nation in the world.
but thats not fair or true!

you can east fast food and still live a healthy life style.....the movie teaches you nothing about self-control, nothing about how many people HAVE to eat fast food because its more cost effective, and NOTHING about responsibility.

how about go to mcdonalds once in a while.....order, lets say, a grilled chicken sandwhich, no fries, and a bottle of water. you CAN do that, and lose weight in a proper diet.

then he tries to go over the top by doing it every day and order himself a milkshake...super sizes the fries...gets a large soda....etc. apple pie. come on? I can do that in any situation, in any store, and call it a problem.

[FOBcareemo]

Elephant.

Gus Van Sant tries to make a smart artistic film about the disturbance of a high school shooting but ends up making complete and utter garbage that people want to say is good because of it's touchy subject matter. By using "real kids" it supposed to seem more real, but the kids poor acting followed by poor effects result in a movie that truly drags on. Literally as many shots include kids just walking down halls.

Amen. That movie is an abortion and an insult to cinema. There is a 6 minute scene of someone walking. Gus van zantgets my hatred for this movie

[fadedmemories]

That wasn't the main point of the movie....

The point of the movie was to show that you really shouldn't EVER eat fast food, him doing it for 30 days was simply an original idea to make the movie interesting but when you watch the movie its more about how we are getting fatter as a nation and its becoming a huge problem and becoming (and i believe is) a leader of deaths in our country. It isn't a fucking movie with just him eating fast food all damn day, there is plenty of interesting useful facts and information that he was just trying to get out to the fattest goddamn nation in the world.
He had good intentions, obesity is a big problem, but he just stated the obvious. No way you could fail with eating McDonalds for a month, filming it, putting together random facts about the risks of eating fast food and calling a documentary.

[OldJersey]

but thats not fair or true!

you can east fast food and still live a healthy life style.....the movie teaches you nothing about self-control, nothing about how many people HAVE to eat fast food because its more cost effective, and NOTHING about responsibility.

how about go to mcdonalds once in a while.....order, lets say, a grilled chicken sandwhich, no fries, and a bottle of water. you CAN do that, and lose weight in a proper diet.

then he tries to go over the top by doing it every day and order himself a milkshake...super sizes the fries...gets a large soda....etc. apple pie. come on? I can do that in any situation, in any store, and call it a problem.


Well, most of these "healthy alternatives" that have been introduced by fast food restaurants were done so after this movie was released.

The movie doesn't even stress never eating it, it just tells you about the shit you are cramming into your mouth. There are plenty of cheap ways to eat other than fast food, the rest of the world does it why can't we? Besides the fact that people are lazy.

Obviously he went over the top, he meant to. Also he only got super size when they asked him if he wanted to super size it. There is plenty more to this movie than just him eating fast food and nothing else for 30 days, that was simply a way to attract viewers. Any person with half a brain can see that,

[trustmeimokay]

but thats not fair or true!

you can east fast food and still live a healthy life style.....the movie teaches you nothing about self-control, nothing about how many people HAVE to eat fast food because its more cost effective, and NOTHING about responsibility.

how about go to mcdonalds once in a while.....order, lets say, a grilled chicken sandwhich, no fries, and a bottle of water. you CAN do that, and lose weight in a proper diet.

then he tries to go over the top by doing it every day and order himself a milkshake...super sizes the fries...gets a large soda....etc. apple pie. come on? I can do that in any situation, in any store, and call it a problem.
I love how you threw "apple pie" in there haha

[domotime2]

Well, most of these "healthy alternatives" that have been introduced by fast food restaurants were done so after this movie was released.

The movie doesn't even stress never eating it, it just tells you about the shit you are cramming into your mouth. There are plenty of cheap ways to eat other than fast food, the rest of the world does it why can't we? Besides the fact that people are lazy.

Obviously he went over the top, he meant to. Also he only got super size when they asked him if he wanted to super size it. There is plenty more to this movie than just him eating fast food and nothing else for 30 days, that was simply a way to attract viewers. Any person with half a brain can see that,
i mean hahaha the guy was eating 5000 calories worth of food a day... PLUS HE DIDNT EXERCISE. I mean, he's not helping his point by doing this. He puts WAY WAY WAY WAY WAYYYYY too much blame on the mcdonalds company, and not on the consumer.

besides, like i stated before. MOST of the calories and "bad stuff" he consumed was mostly from the beverages he consumed, the cokes and milkshakes. The sugar alone was the biggest of contributors to his detererating health.

if you eat 5000 calories a day + dont exercise. no matter where those 5000 calories comes from..its going to be unhealthy.

[OldJersey]

i mean hahaha the guy was eating 5000 calories worth of food a day... PLUS HE DIDNT EXERCISE. I mean, he's not helping his point by doing this. He puts WAY WAY WAY WAY WAYYYYY too much blame on the mcdonalds company, and not on the consumer.

besides, like i stated before. MOST of the calories and "bad stuff" he consumed was mostly from the beverages he consumed, the cokes and milkshakes. The sugar alone was the biggest of contributors to his detererating health.

if you eat 5000 calories a day + dont exercise. no matter where those 5000 calories comes from..its going to be unhealthy.


What do you mean he doesnt blame the consumer? Have you watched the movie? He is criticizing the whole country for being fat and lazy and telling us it's our own fault. He mocks the people who sued McDonalds for getting fat. No shit about 5000 calories, he was just taking it to an extreme intentionally. Again for the 4th time i'll put it in bold so you can see, THAT WAS NOT THE MAIN POINT OF THE MOVIE.

[domotime2]

What do you mean he doesnt blame the consumer? Have you watched the movie? He is criticizing the whole country for being fat and lazy and telling us it's our own fault. He mocks the people who sued McDonalds for getting fat. No shit about 5000 calories, he was just taking it to an extreme intentionally. Again for the 4th time i'll put it in bold so you can see, THAT WAS NOT THE MAIN POINT OF THE MOVIE.
so his main point of the movie was that Fast food is crap? another blatanlty obvious point.

[domotime2]

What do you mean he doesnt blame the consumer? Have you watched the movie? He is criticizing the whole country for being fat and lazy and telling us it's our own fault. He mocks the people who sued McDonalds for getting fat. No shit about 5000 calories, he was just taking it to an extreme intentionally. Again for the 4th time i'll put it in bold so you can see, THAT WAS NOT THE MAIN POINT OF THE MOVIE.
there was a WKUK you sketch about a guy drinking whiskey for 30 straight days too.....his health started to go down the tube too.

[AShannon04]

I loved Supersize Me. And to the people who said that what he was doing was obvious: of course it is, but that was the point! There are people out there who eat McDonald's on an almost-daily basis and have no idea what they're doing to their bodies. They eat like shit and don't exercise, and the reason they do that is that they don't know any better or can't afford to eat better. The movie was attacking McDonald's for basically not giving people the choice, or the information, they need to make healthy decisions.

[OldJersey]

so his main point of the movie was that Fast food is crap? another blatanlty obvious point.


Dear god.

No, his main point was that fast food has become too regular on a diet for us, and that it is killing us. Young kids eat this shit when they are young, they carry it with them as they grow and it fucks up their health. We are the fattest country in america, and a large reason is the marketing schemes and large quantities of food we are given from these fast food places that does not happen in other places. Documentrys are made to get the directors message heard.

The message here is that obesity is as big a problem as cigarette smokers, but it is not being treated in the same way and that something needs to be done about it cause it is only getting worse.

K, i'm done on that.

[domotime2]

I loved Supersize Me. And to the people who said that what he was doing was obvious: of course it is, but that was the point! There are people out there who eat McDonald's on an almost-daily basis and have no idea what they're doing to their bodies. They eat like shit and don't exercise, and the reason they do that is that they don't know any better or can't afford to eat better. The movie was attacking McDonald's for basically not giving people the choice, or the information, they need to make healthy decisions.
ashannon.....so this docu was for stupid people?

mcdonalds has had a nutrition guide for a long time.

again...haha drink whiskey for 30 straight days too, see the effects of it.

[OldJersey]

I loved Supersize Me. And to the people who said that what he was doing was obvious: of course it is, but that was the point! There are people out there who eat McDonald's on an almost-daily basis and have no idea what they're doing to their bodies. They eat like shit and don't exercise, and the reason they do that is that they don't know any better or can't afford to eat better. The movie was attacking McDonald's for basically not giving people the choice, or the information, they need to make healthy decisions.

Yes.

[OldJersey]

This is like talking to a wall. :hitself:

[domotime2]

Its like talking to people who are surprised by any of the facts the movie gave you. :jawdrop: , they have pretty cool smileys on this site.

[Mirrorsandfevers]

The Virgin Suicides.

[AShannon04]

ashannon.....so this docu was for stupid people?

mcdonalds has had a nutrition guide for a long time.

again...haha drink whiskey for 30 straight days too, see the effects of it.

I don't think that the movie was made for stupid people. But I also don't think that what Morgan Spurlock did was THAT far removed from what a lot of Americans do. The average American walks less than a mile a day, and a lot of people can't afford to eat anything but fast food. Again, I say that McDonald's doesn't tell people who bad their food is for you, and doesn't give people the choices that one should have in order to maintain a healthy lifestyle.

[domotime2]

The Virgin Suicides.
hah word.

[domotime2]

I don't think that the movie was made for stupid people. But I also don't think that what Morgan Spurlock did was THAT far removed from what a lot of Americans do. The average American walks less than a mile a day, and a lot of people can't afford to eat anything but fast food. Again, I say that McDonald's doesn't tell people who bad their food is for you, and doesn't give people the choices that one should have in order to maintain a healthy lifestyle.
why dont companies who sell "healthier alternatives" step in and offer "Cheaper alternatives"

[AShannon04]

why dont companies who sell "healthier alternatives" step in and offer "Cheaper alternatives"

because it's not usually that cheap to sell healthy food

[domotime2]

because it's not usually that cheap to sell healthy food
you would think it'd be cheaper to sell vegetable and fruit type products, since it seems easier and cheaper to produce, no? (not trying to sound condescending, im simply asking(

[Circa1628]

The Virgin Suicides.

totally disagree with this one

[notoaststereo]

No Country For Old Men, i felt like it tried to be something more, but it was still pretty awesome wit hthat airgun thing. huh.i'm fairly sure no country for old men was supposed to be exactly what it was. the coen brothers knew exactly what they wanted and that what it turned out to be. fantastic movie.

[AShannon04]

you would think it'd be cheaper to sell vegetable and fruit type products, since it seems easier and cheaper to produce, no? (not trying to sound condescending, im simply asking(

No, you're right. That would make sense, but unfortunately, it's not the case, which is why McDonalds is so popular. For a lot of people, fast food is almost the only thing they can afford to eat on a regular basis.

[domotime2]

No, you're right. That would make sense, but unfortunately, it's not the case, which is why McDonalds is so popular. For a lot of people, fast food is almost the only thing they can afford to eat on a regular basis.
have you tried getting a turkey sandwhich from a deli, with like wheat bread, lettuce, tomatoe, vinegar/salt. $7? screw that shit, ha.

[notoaststereo]

the fountain. it looked beautiful, but other than that i couldn't really feel it at all. i probably need to give it another watch though.

[domotime2]

the fountain. it looked beautiful, but other than that i couldn't really feel it at all. i probably need to give it another watch though.
no no no....you are on the ball here. but id rather put this movie on the list of "dissapointing films"

[Mirrorsandfevers]

totally disagree with this one

Please tell me what I missed then.

[c_rob2700]

http://phrenetical.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/mr-mrs-smith.jpg

[Gaugzilla]

Whoever said 'The Number 23.' It's like that kid in school that tries to be smarter than everyone, but in reality he's just making things up as he goes along.

[Gaugzilla]

http://phrenetical.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/mr-mrs-smith.jpg

I'm pretty sure that was just meant to be a Bruckheimer-like shoot-em-up. But still, a big step down from the director of "Bourne Identity."

[c_rob2700]

I'm pretty sure that was just meant to be a Bruckheimer-like shoot-em-up. But still, a big step down from the director of "Bourne Identity."
They had Adrian Brody tell the twist half way in and then they acted like it was the biggest twist in cinema history.

also i forgot to post Jumper

[gusta0117]

They had Adrian Brody tell the twist half way in and then they acted like it was the biggest twist in cinema history.

also i forgot to post Jumper


how is Jumper trying to be smart? it was a popcorn flick

[notoaststereo]

They had Adrian Brody tell the twist half way in and then they acted like it was the biggest twist in cinema history.

also i forgot to post Jumper

adam brody?

[c_rob2700]

adam brody?
yeah.

[c_rob2700]

how is Jumper trying to be smart? it was a popcorn flick
Throwing in the whole Mom is a Paladin scene at the end.

It's a discgrace from the book

[gusta0117]

Throwing in the whole Mom is a Paladin scene at the end.

It's a discgrace from the book


thats not being a smart film.

i think you just saw mrs and mr smith on this list and decided to add it on

[domotime2]

Throwing in the whole Mom is a Paladin scene at the end.

It's a discgrace from the book
ya i agree with whoever just said...Jumper Was suppose to be smarT?

when i saw the preview the first thing i said to my friend was.... "this looks pretty dumb".

[DudeNateIsSoRad]

totally disagree with this one

same here, that movie was beyond great.

[notoaststereo]

jumper was a book first?

[gilatron5000]

Throwing in the whole Mom is a Paladin scene at the end.

It's a discgrace from the bookI think you're confusing "dumb movies that they're smart" with "movies whose twists aren't that great."

[Gaugzilla]

I think you're confusing "dumb movies that they're smart" with "movies whose twists aren't that great."

I'll go to bat for this. "Jumper" the book was actually pretty smart. The movie tried to be smart with the whole Paladin mythology but then said "Fuck it, let's just throw a bunch of special effects at the screen and collect our money." It could have, and should have, been smart but they didn't really care enough to do so. I guess that just goes with any movie that casts Hayden Christensen.

[c_rob2700]

jumper was a book first?
yeah, but it was more like the Dad was an alchoholic and that's how the kid escaped.

there were no paladins, or girls, ore bullshit like that

[djUbilla]

the fountain. it looked beautiful, but other than that i couldn't really feel it at all. i probably need to give it another watch though.Give it another watch.

I think it's a fantastic take on an scientist who neglects his muse for the sake of his work. It's a take on immortality that is more in tune with the present than any possible future. With all of this told through an intertwining three plots of the scientist, his muse's art, and his soul, Arnofsky brilliantly destructs the traditional concepts of time and immortality and replaces it with an idea that speaks more to the spirit than the body.

I'm a sucker for themes, and when you combine that with the film's cinematography, you get one of my favorite films.

[OldJersey]

I wanna say Garden State but that would probably fit better in a "Dumb film that is overwhelmingly indied out" thread.

[notoaststereo]

yeah, but it was more like the Dad was an alchoholic and that's how the kid escaped.

there were no paladins, or girls, ore bullshit like that

totally didnt see the movie. i just didnt know it was a book first.

[dissident]

this thread is shit, mr and mrs. smith? no country for old men? these are simple movies not trying to be much, good or bad.

[Circa1628]

Please tell me what I missed then.

a really good movie, and an impressive directorial debut

[Circa1628]

same here, that movie was beyond great.
:beerbros:

[pshh]

explain to me then....how do u make any sort of "sense" out of what was happening. i mean come on i guy sees a certain person all the time, everywhere he goes, and he calls it a coincidence? is it too far fetched to say that if you live in the same area as someone, you may see them often?

but then on top of that he goes to a specialist to help him with a "coincidence", what the hell kind of help could you get for something like that?

bottom line is that the movie was trying very hard to be "weird" or "deep".

explain to me the "meaning" of this film if you'de be so kind, and since i "didnt get it".

well it's a lot simpler than what you're saying, there's a simple theme that can resonate for anyones life about searching for the age old of question of your existence/meaning of life. it's just one man's desire to obtain the answer by seeing those people to solve the question.

it's been asked before and everyone has a different answer. so, what is the meaning of life? it's everyone elses different views and opinion, thats the point. so hopefully you get it. (very vague but i'm sure its not as complicated as the movie)

it's not that hard

[matt_rawlings]

I think Aronofsky is one of the most intelligent men behind a camera in the world at the moment

[DroppedUrPocket]

matt rawlings: the movie

[FOBcareemo]

the dark knight would have been better without heath IMO, someone more sadistic.

Wow....just....wow...



There's no hope.

[thedood]

i would say no country for old men. or fargo. cohen brothers best movie was the big lebowski.

no country more so than fargo...it was so slow, the whole point of the movie was the chase between the good and bad dudes and then we dont even get to see him killed?

i understand what the benefits of leaving that to the imagination could be but i wasnt into it.

[DroppedUrPocket]

^this dood is wrong!

[prlyknitswtr]

Wow....just....wow...



There's no hope.

why are there so many Heath fanboys? i dont understand what he did in this movie that was so "special". He played a sadistic madman that wanted to destroy "the bat man". if Heath was still alive he would not be getting so much praise.

i know i will get flamed for this but i really dont care. you want to see a versatile person, see Daniel Day Lewis, now that guy can play a sadistic madman.

[domotime2]

why are there so many Heath fanboys? i dont understand what he did in this movie that was so "special". He played a sadistic madman that wanted to destroy "the bat man". if Heath was still alive he would not be getting so much praise.

i know i will get flamed for this but i really dont care. you want to see a versatile person, see Daniel Day Lewis, now that guy can play a sadistic madman.
is he getting a "bit" more praise because he's dead...probably.

thats not to say he didnt do an EXCELLENT job, i mean I've seen movies with dead actors in it a few times but I dont neccesarily think its brilliant just because they died.

eg: Canadian Bacon, although a really funny movie one of my favorites....John Candy died during the filming of that, and I didnt think he shuldve won an oscar (haha canadian bacon as my example)

[prlyknitswtr]

is he getting a "bit" more praise because he's dead...probably.

thats not to say he didnt do an EXCELLENT job, i mean I've seen movies with dead actors in it a few times but I dont neccesarily think its brilliant just because they died.

eg: Canadian Bacon, although a really funny movie one of my favorites....John Candy died during the filming of that, and I didnt think he shuldve won an oscar (haha canadian bacon as my example)

he won an oscar for that movie? wow...but guess what, come golden globes...heath will get best villan or supporting actor, and with the academy award...best supporting actor. OR there will be like a "tribute" to him in some way shape or form.

but i dont see how people can praise someone who committed suicide.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

he won an oscar for that movie? wow...but guess what, come golden globes...heath will get best villan or supporting actor, and with the academy award...best supporting actor. OR there will be like a "tribute" to him in some way shape or form.

but i dont see how people can praise someone who committed suicide.
Whoa, what? He didn't commit suicide. It was an accident.

[djUbilla]

he won an oscar for that movie? wow...but guess what, come golden globes...heath will get best villan or supporting actor, and with the academy award...best supporting actor. OR there will be like a "tribute" to him in some way shape or form.

but i dont see how people can praise someone who committed suicide.
There is so much comedically wrong here. John Candy didn't win an Oscar. The other guy you quoted didn't say he did. The Golden Globes don't hand out awards for Best Villain. And there will probably be a tribute to him much like they have a tribute to many names in the film industry that died that year. And his death was ruled an accident.

[Illuminate]

There will be blood ---expecting to get criticized but I honestly did not like it and thought it was dumb.

[leifstar]

Good one. I was originally going to say this. Walhberg was such a pussy in this movie (which doesn't really have any bearing on it either way) it's just something else to add to it's overall fail.


How is someone such a pussy acting in a movie?

I mean don't get me wrong. I am not saying this was a great movie. But I don't understand how Mark Walhberg was a pussy?

[leifstar]

There will be blood ---expecting to get criticized but I honestly did not like it and thought it was dumb.


Agreed. Too hyped up and too long. I felt the same way.

[leifstar]

he won an oscar for that movie? wow...but guess what, come golden globes...heath will get best villan or supporting actor, and with the academy award...best supporting actor. OR there will be like a "tribute" to him in some way shape or form.

but i dont see how people can praise someone who committed suicide.

I didn't even read earlier in this thread, and I don't want to if comments like this is in it. First of it isn't known if he committed suicide. ( I am not going to start an argument because in the end no one will ever know if he did or not, only he is the only one who knows).

And " but i dont see how people can praise someone who committed suicide." is really ill hearted of you. What gives you the right to talk down about anyone who commits suicide. I don't see how there are people as ignorant as you in this world. Committing suicide speaks nothing of his character, his talent, or who he is to a point of discrediting him or judging him in full. it's sickening. Heath Ledger was a talented actor despite his race, age, gender, or "suicide".

You disgust me.

[domotime2]

haha if it sounded like i said John Candy won an oscar I appoligze.....

[oncedarkness]

Across the Universe. I would rather paint grass and watch it dry while the grass grew...that would have been more artsy than that movie.

*Thank you Zits comic strip for that "joke"

[SLoT]

How is someone such a pussy acting in a movie?

I mean don't get me wrong. I am not saying this was a great movie. But I don't understand how Mark Walhberg was a pussy?
His character was a pussy. Not him.

[prlyknitswtr]

Whoa, what? He didn't commit suicide. It was an accident.

his cause of death was due to drugs in his system that he WILLINGLY TOOK. overdosing = suicide.

i fail to see how u people cannot see the relation. its not like he ate or drank something that poisoned him and he had no idea of what would happen, or hit by a car, or murdered. he took too much shit, period

[just.Starla.]

Across the Universe. I would rather paint grass and watch it dry while the grass grew...that would have been more artsy than that movie.

*Thank you Zits comic strip for that "joke"
Really? There were a few okay moments in it, but it was a little too long for a musical.

[leifstar]

His character was a pussy. Not him.



Oooo. Got ya. And very true.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

his cause of death was due to drugs in his system that he WILLINGLY TOOK. overdosing = suicide.

i fail to see how u people cannot see the relation. its not like he ate or drank something that poisoned him and he had no idea of what would happen, or hit by a car, or murdered. he took too much shit, period
Uhh...yeah...he willingly took drugs. Because he couldn't get any sleep. So he took some pills. The pills mixed in a bad way. Overdosing does not always equal suicide. You do know that right? God, tell me you know that. He did have no idea what would happen. He didn't know the pills would combat each other and kill him in his sleep. It was deemed an accident by the doctors in the autopsy. I fail to see how you can remain so misinformed. Stupid topic.

[prlyknitswtr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger#Autopsy_and_toxicologi cal_analysis

his death was the cause of the abuse over several prescription drugs for insomnia, anxiety, depression, pain and cold symptoms.

i will not talk about this anymore but my bottom line is that i have NO sympathy for "pill poppers" what so ever.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger#Autopsy_and_toxicologi cal_analysis

his death was the cause of the abuse over several prescription drugs for insomnia, anxiety, depression, pain and cold symptoms.

i will not talk about this anymore but my bottom line is that i have NO sympathy for "pill poppers" what so ever.
Apparently you missed this part:

It also states definitively: "We have concluded that the manner of death is accident, resulting from the abuse of prescription medications."
You can go ahead and have NO sympathy for "pill poppers" all you want. A good friend of mine, however, died of pretty much the same cause a few years ago. The guy loved life, had a wonderful family and friends. He was just sick and accidentally took the wrong combination of pills to try to simply help him feel better the next day. He was not suicidal and, as opposed to you apparently, I actually choose to have some sympathy for innocent people who make mistakes and suffer sever consequences. I wouldn't wish any of that grief on his family that they suffered through. It's devastating and I'm sure Ledger's family would be more than happy to put you in your place.

[Connorrrr]

Sorry if it's been said, but Shrooms.

Ending is appauling and although they think it clears everything up, it doesn't and it's quite obvious that some of the things couldn't quite possibly of happened.

[prlyknitswtr]

Apparently you missed this part:


It also states definitively: "We have concluded that the manner of death is accident, resulting from the abuse of prescription medications.".

Apparently you've missed this part. By no means, should anyone, mix medications. Furthermore, should not take medication that was not prescribed to them. what the fuck do you think will happen if you start mixing and matching. i mean you cant even mix tylenol and asprin.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

Apparently you've missed this part. By no means, should anyone, mix medications. Furthermore, should not take medication that was not prescribed to them. what the fuck do you think will happen if you start mixing and matching. i mean you cant even mix tylenol and asprin.
Yes, it was abuse of prescription medicine...accidental abuse. As stated by the doctors. And around and around we go...

Look man, yeah, it's dangerous to mix medications and no, you shouldn't do it. Am I going to hold that against my dead friend and point the finger at his grave, proclaiming that I have zero sympathy? The simple answer to this is clearly no. He made a mistake, so did Ledger. Lots of people make mistakes due to medicine. Should they be aware of the ramifications? Yes. Despite this, some people still just get desperate and want to heal so they take a risk. Is it a bad idea? Yeah (unless prescribed differing medications by a doctor), as seen from the results. I still refuse to be a dick and let my friend's family know that I have no sympathy for him or them. That, quite frankly, is ignorant, low, and complete and utter bullshit.

[prlyknitswtr]

Yes, it was abuse of prescription medicine...accidental abuse. As stated by the doctors. And around and around we go...

Look man, yeah, it's dangerous to mix medications and no, you shouldn't do it. Am I going to hold that against my dead friend and point the finger at his grave, proclaiming that I have zero sympathy? The simple answer to this is clearly no. He made a mistake, so did Ledger. Lots of people make mistakes due to medicine. Should they be aware of the ramifications? Yes. Despite this, some people still just get desperate and want to heal so they take a risk. Is it a bad idea? Yeah (unless prescribed differing medications by a doctor), as seen from the results. I still refuse to be a dick and let my friend's family know that I have no sympathy for him or them. That, quite frankly, is ignorant, low, and complete and utter bullshit.

yea i can agree with that, my mom used to have problems with pain pills. so i guess im jaded when it comes to stuff like this. maybe i am being bias since i havent liked a movie that Heath has been in, i guess thats not DIRECTLY geared towards his acting skills, but just never liked his movies. The dark knight on the other hand was pretty good, but Heath wasnt really in it all that much.

it has not been said that these drugs were prescribed to him, even if they were, no one knows if he was instructed to take all at the same time. it was a mistake, a stupid one at that, but just because he is in the public eye does not mean that everyone has to feel sorry for him. for the people that personally knew him it is a different story, but i mean come on, how many times do u stop and really feel sorry for a bum on the streets? im willing to bet one of your first thoughts would be, "man why doesnt he try to get a job or in some sort of program?".

[prlyknitswtr]

so yea i am not ignorant. i have seen what pill popping can do to people and it isnt pretty. people can be very reckless at times.

[goodnews]

Brokeback Mountain.
Crash.
Donnie Darko.
Garden State.

[Undue Noise]

Elephant was awful. It was all about the beforemath and the aftermath.

the math itself, is NOWHERE to be seen. weak.
Haha I love your description of all the maths. But I'm not a fan of Elephant; I didn't see a solid plot and i think Van Sant sort of relied on the fact that the film was supposed to be a normal day but all I saw was long, dull camera shots that do not make good cinema.

[Undue Noise]

I wanna say Garden State but that would probably fit better in a "Dumb film that is overwhelmingly indied out" thread.
I agree on this. I'm a huge Natalie Portman fan and Zach Braff is cool but I really wasn't a fan of the movie. I don't think it was terrible, I just don't see what was so amazing about it.

[just.Starla.]

Haha I love your description of all the maths. But I'm not a fan of Elephant; I didn't see a solid plot and i think Van Sant sort of relied on the fact that the film was supposed to be a normal day but all I saw was long, dull camera shots that do not make good cinema.

I agree on this. I'm a huge Natalie Portman fan and Zach Braff is cool but I really wasn't a fan of the movie. I don't think it was terrible, I just don't see what was so amazing about it.

Agreed and agreed.

[Spicoli hey bud]

http://phrenetical.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/mr-mrs-smith.jpg
In no way did this movie try to be "smart."

This thread isn't titled "shitty movies that just plain sucked donkey balls."

[Thomas Balkcom]

There will be blood ---expecting to get criticized but I honestly did not like it and thought it was dumb.


Out of curiosity and for sake of argument, why do you think it was "dumb?"

[Thomas Balkcom]

I think Aronofsky is one of the most intelligent men behind a camera in the world at the moment

I feel the exact same way, I am so excited for The Wrestler.

[Thomas Balkcom]

The first one that pops into my mind is Garden State, a film I actually enjoy at face value but it truly is not as smart as people give it credit for.

[Thomas Balkcom]

i loved southland tales.

Haha, so did I but it in the end that's a good example for this thread.

[matt_rawlings]

Southland Tales is aesthetically gorgeous and features a career best performance for Sean William Scott (hardly a challenge, I know). That being said, it makes extraordinarily little sense when all is said and done.

[eraserhead]

hahaha...I'm sorry but if you thought There Will Be Blood was "dumb," you don't get movies.

[domotime2]

Southland Tales is aesthetically gorgeous and features a career best performance for Sean William Scott (hardly a challenge, I know). That being said, it makes extraordinarily little sense when all is said and done.
I just think the movie as a whole was beautiful.....i loved the usage of like comedic stars as dramatic figures, and the obsurdity of everything was awesome.

- pimps dont commit suicide
- teenage horniess aint a crime

the "waves of mutilation" scene with the rock was really tripply cool, and the JT killers montage was nuts as well...and I actually bought into Jon Lovitz as a crooked cop.

Idk, this had everything I like in a film. Far out concept, far out ideas, entertaining, great soundtrack, with a unique cast. I just think its a shame that this movie gets bashed because it limits the chance of them trying more crazy concepts.... Ill take this over an indie flick about a dysfunctional family anyday, or a bio-drama about some politiican or black celebrity.

[Thomas Balkcom]

hahaha...I'm sorry but if you thought There Will Be Blood was "dumb," you don't get movies.

^ the reasoning behind my question, I can understand someone not enjoying it but finding it "dumb?"