Where's Your "Head" At?

[Jared Kaufman]

I think it's safe to say that former Korn (http://www.korn.com) guitarist, "Head", has lost his mind (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1498084/20050314/korn.jhtml?headlines=true).

[Jim Morgan]

i'm sure 50 will love his song written from God.

[Cottage Cheese]

It's things like these that makes me lean towards athieism

[Cocky Caucasion]

It's things like these that makes me lean towards athieism

it's comments like that that make you look like an idiot.

[Gleebo]

I wonder what the straight edge kids make of this.

[Cerpin Taxt]

Haha, yea, I saw that the other day. What a joke. What's really funny is when you consider how anti-christianity Jonathan Davis or whatever his name is. I read somewhere that he has tattoos of the pope laughing at Christ on the cross and whatnot.

It's things like this that make me a little less self-concious about being an atheist. With people like Head running around, the god-less way of life looks totally sane in comparison.

[bostonHxC]

damn it damn it i had this idea years ago... 50 wouldnt of seen it comin'

[RobRob1203]

I don't understand why you have to call him insane for actually having something to believe in. Perhaps it stems from your jealousy that you cannot so easily cast off your cynicism to take an unjaded view of faith... There is nothing wrong with trying to lead a good life.

"Virtue- even attempted virtue- brings light;
indulgence brings fog."
-C.S. Lewis

[Chemical Love]

that guy is all sorts of fucked up now.

[Cerpin Taxt]

I don't understand why you have to call him insane for actually having something to believe in. Perhaps it stems from your jealousy that you cannot so easily cast off your cynicism to take an unjaded view of faith... There is nothing wrong with trying to lead a good life.

"Virtue- even attempted virtue- brings light;
indulgence brings fog."
-C.S. Lewis

Wait. Are you kidding?

I don't think he's insane for "having something to believe in." I think he's insane because of WHAT he believes in. The belief he has chosen is a totally fabricated pile of bullshit. Personally, I think it's insane on ratrional grounds. To believe in what he believes in is dellusional. That doesn't mean I don't wish him or anyone else with his beliefs well, of course, but I think I'm entitled to my opion on the matter, as are you.

Nice Lewis quote. Have you read "A Grief Observed"? He makes a convincing (but ultimately shallow) argument for belief in God...

[Jared Kaufman]

I don't understand why you have to call him insane for actually having something to believe in. Perhaps it stems from your jealousy that you cannot so easily cast off your cynicism to take an unjaded view of faith... There is nothing wrong with trying to lead a good life.

"Virtue- even attempted virtue- brings light;
indulgence brings fog."
-C.S. Lewis
I don't think he's insane for his beliefs. I, myself, am VERY religious and have a strong faith in god and firmly believe in all my thoughts, practices, etc. I think it's great for everyone to believe in something and healthy to have some sense of spirituality. However, I think writing a song about another famous person and saying that he can't get mad at it because it's from God is a bit out of left field. I highly doubt God would be using former Korn guitarist, Head, as his spokesperson, especially to 50 Cent.

[seans seatbelt]

I think it's safe to say that former Korn (http://www.korn.com) guitarist, "Head", has lost his mind (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1498084/20050314/korn.jhtml?headlines=true).

I'd agree.

[SLADE775]

pssh........that dumbass lost his mind a looooooooong time ago.

[CT-Tim]

I don't think he's insane for his beliefs. I, myself, am VERY religious and have a strong faith in god and firmly believe in all my thoughts, practices, etc. I think it's great for everyone to believe in something and healthy to have some sense of spirituality. However, I think writing a song about another famous person and saying that he can't get mad at it because it's from God is a bit out of left field. I highly doubt God would be using former Korn guitarist, Head, as his spokesperson, especially to 50 Cent.

Perhaps you aren't familiar with the people God used as spokespeople in the Bible... Paul/Saul anyone?

I personally don't agree with the publicity around it, he should have kept it between himself and 50 Cent, but I can't judge whether or not God spoke to him and all... I think his intentions are good.

[splitsecond]

it's comments like that that make you look like an idiot.
Agreed.

[Jared Kaufman]

Perhaps you aren't familiar with the people God used as spokespeople in the Bible... Paul/Saul anyone?

I personally don't agree with the publicity around it, he should have kept it between himself and 50 Cent, but I can't judge whether or not God spoke to him and all... I think his intentions are good.
I'm very familiar with Paul / Saul. I should've added the fact that I don't believe God "inspires" people like he did in those times today. I also think this guy is using his new found faith as a means to advance his solo career, get some publicity (I mean why else write a song "from" God to 50 cent), etc. I can just see it now: 50 will write a song dissing "Head", "Head" will release the song, ppl will buy the album/song 'cause they're curious to hear it, and then 50 will continually diss him on TV, radio, in song, etc.

[OnLegendary21]

I wonder what the straight edge kids make of this.

What does that have to do with anything?

[SLADE775]

peter- then he started sayin all this yo yo stuff, so I started beatin him with a hose,
then my arm got tired so I came here.

[IAPAI]

Yes, this is great. Let's start arguing about our faiths and how each of us has a much better view on the "True" God. Instead of tearing down the entire moral fabric of someone else's life, just agree to disagree (except in Head's case, because it is definitely a publicity stunt - I don't believe in divine inspiration, especially to a fuck like that).

[BrandNew20]

I think it's safe to say that former Korn (http://www.korn.com) guitarist, "Head", has lost his mind (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1498084/20050314/korn.jhtml?headlines=true).

yeah, definatly.

[radiofriendly]

Perhaps you aren't familiar with the people God used as spokespeople in the Bible... Paul/Saul anyone?

I personally don't agree with the publicity around it, he should have kept it between himself and 50 Cent, but I can't judge whether or not God spoke to him and all... I think his intentions are good.

did you just compare Paul/Saul to the former gutarist of Korn? sorry i really don't mean to patronize, it's just funny to say it out loud.

when i read about all this, i think about that Bill Paxton movie, frailty, where god speaks to him, telling him all the demons roaming the earth that he needs to kill....he had good intentions... i just think it's really offbeat to threaten 50 cent with the retribution of "releasing this song to the world", if he doesn't conform to his beliefs. yes these are just Brian Welch's beliefs, he has no basis, foundation, or following, yet he seems to be acting like he's a prophet. im not going to hesitate to opinionate myself over these wierdos just because they have good intentions. it's happened plenty of times before. it doesn't mean they're christ like. i guess believing is all about having faith. i have no faith in Brian 'Head' Welch. holy shit...hehe...holy...hehe...get it?

[IAmCountryMusic]

maybe because he knows he could never make it solo, he needs someone to blame when everyone realizes he sucks.
i dont know why god would ever want to help this guy make shitty music
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/exhibit/5748/korn/head/head21.jpg

[leika]

Well I guess you could say people are made in the image of their God, if you believe in that. I don't know about God writing songs thru people though. 'God made me do it' is sketchy. You're either enlightened or something in your brain isn't clicking right.

[Adeniz19]

what a total joke

[QTheDangerMusic]

I wonder what the straight edge kids make of this.

this dude right here has the sickest sig in the world...arrested development is fucking awesome and you should all be watching it.

anyways....'kind of like Tré's dad in the movie 'Boyz N the Hood'....that line was like 'eh interesting reference'...maybe because he's...black? kinda fucked...

[psykosteve]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



ANd i thought he was retarted when he was in Kron. Who would have thought he could get duber.

[SLADE775]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



ANd i thought he was retarted when he was in Kron. Who would have thought he could get duber.


HAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAA! !!!!!!!!!


DUBER!!!!!! HAHAHA NOW YOU LOOK LIKE AN I D I O T!!!!!!! :animateds

[Melissa Johnson]

Pretty soon there's going to be an AP.net post reading "50 Cent angered over song. Former Korn guitarist shot."

[Bury Your Head]

i see head as a man that has developed the christian hardcore brainwash.my nieghbors are like thatits when he does crazy things secretly for his 0wn gain but says its for god. my naighbors pull that shit all the time. he just wants his solo album to blow up... maybe he just wants to look good to god...or maybe both

[SLADE775]

i see head as a man that has developed the christian hardcore brainwash.my nieghbors are like thatits when he does crazy things secretly for his 0wn gain but says its for god. my naighbors pull that shit all the time. he just wants his solo album to blow up... maybe he just wants to look good to god...or maybe both


What do your neighbors do?


oh this should be good...... ;)

[jynxedheart]

was he molested by his father as well?

[Signals Corrupted]

what the hell. hes gonna get himself shot

[KarateExplosion]

I think it's safe to say that former Korn (http://www.korn.com) guitarist, "Head", has lost his mind (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1498084/20050314/korn.jhtml?headlines=true).
clearly, being religious, even overly so, means you're crazy, right jared?

[SLADE775]

clearly, being religious, even overly so, means you're crazy, right jared?


here we go........

[jynxedheart]

clearly, being religious, even overly so, means you're crazy, right jared?

apparently you didnt read the last two pages. let the ignorance flow like wine in this thread.......

[SLADE775]

apparently you didnt read the last two pages. let the ignorance flow like wine in this thread.......


where beer flows like wine
and beautiful women instinctivly flock like the salmon of capastrano!!!!!!


im talkin about a place called.....ASPEN

[handofgod]

has no one thought that maybe it's all bullshit? maybe head never found jebus and never even left korn. maybe its all a big fucking joke to take the piss out all the jebus worshiping freaks and to gain publicity for their new album, which mtv keeps mentioning comes out in september.

SAVE ME JEBUS

[SLADE775]

has no one thought that maybe it's all bullshit? maybe head never found jebus and never even left korn. maybe its all a big fucking joke to take the piss out all the jebus worshiping freaks and to gain publicity for their new album, which mtv keeps mentioning comes out in september.

SAVE ME JEBUS



AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

yer goin to hell dude!!!!!!!!! You cant spell jesus!!!!!!!!!!!


hand of god...........oh sweet irony!!!!!!! :animateds

[jynxedheart]

has no one thought that maybe it's all bullshit? maybe head never found jebus and never even left korn. maybe its all a big fucking joke to take the piss out all the jebus worshiping freaks and to gain publicity for their new album, which mtv keeps mentioning comes out in september.

SAVE ME JEBUS

i love the underlying fact of your post relating back to your username.....its like, jebus is to jesus as god is to dog

[handofgod]

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

yer goin to hell dude!!!!!!!!! You cant spell jesus!!!!!!!!!!!


hand of god...........oh sweet irony!!!!!!! :animateds
watch more cartoons

[SLADE775]

watch more cartoons



How long were you waiting to crack out that jem?


try a little harder, see what happens.

[jynxedheart]

How long were you waiting to crack out that jem?


try a little harder, see what happens.

oh dave, you're what the spaniards call, "el terrrrrrrrible"

[Cerpin Taxt]

has no one thought that maybe it's all bullshit? maybe head never found jebus and never even left korn. maybe its all a big fucking joke to take the piss out all the jebus worshiping freaks and to gain publicity for their new album, which mtv keeps mentioning comes out in september.

SAVE ME JEBUS

That would be GREAT.

[handofgod]

How long were you waiting to crack out that jem?


try a little harder, see what happens.
:eatshort:

[jynxedheart]

:eatshort:

http://www.oneposter.com/UserData/Poster/Poster_3966.jpg

[handofgod]

http://www.oneposter.com/UserData/Poster/Poster_3966.jpg
am i the only one who finds that picture slightly erotic?

[jynxedheart]

am i the only one who finds that picture slightly erotic?

almost as much as this one?......

http://geo4.uibk.ac.at/~c716320/icons/simpsons.gif

[handofgod]

almost as much as this one?......

http://geo4.uibk.ac.at/~c716320/icons/simpsons.gif
watch less cartoons

[kapler23]

I am going to take a stand on this, and I see that overall there is a very liberal view on this. Most people love to jump on the bandwagon when someone does something for God. Now no one knows what God told him, but to say that he is using it to advance his career, now thats a joke.

Do you not realize how successful a band Korn was? Obviously, this guy doesnt need the money and if he wanted fame he would have stayed in Korn. As far as the atheist beliefs saying they are proud to be atheist and attack a Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis, do you not even know that C.S. Lewis was originally an atheist to begin with, but then turn a Christian!! Get your stuff straight.

Now, I dont necessarily agree with the fact that if 50 doesnt like the song that he will release it to the public, but obviously there are plenty of people in the world including myself who at times are not on the right path and need to be reminded of God's love and be reprimanded as well for their actions.

Thanks for reading.

[jynxedheart]

watch less cartoons

haha funny you say that because i hate the simpsons.....has never gotten a laugh out of me, but there are several others that do please me

[jynxedheart]

I am going to take a stand on this, and I see that overall there is a very liberal view on this. Most people love to jump on the bandwagon when someone does something for God. Now no one knows what God told him, but to say that he is using it to advance his career, now thats a joke.

Do you not realize how successful a band Korn was? Obviously, this guy doesnt need the money and if he wanted fame he would have stayed in Korn. As far as the atheist beliefs saying they are proud to be atheist and attack a Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis, do you not even know that C.S. Lewis was originally an atheist to begin with, but then turn a Christian!! Get your stuff straight.

Now, I dont necessarily agree with the fact that if 50 doesnt like the song that he will release it to the public, but obviously there are plenty of people in the world including myself who at times are not on the right path and need to be reminded of God's love and be reprimanded as well for their actions.

Thanks for reading.

spoken like a true catholic......lets all give him a hand while he is ushered back to his single-minded religious lifestyle where he can......wait, im not even going to get into this

[handofgod]

wait, im not even going to get into this
i think its too late for that

[SonEric84]

I find it hilarious that some of you are actually defending this.

[jynxedheart]

i think its too late for that

i would gladly start a religious debate right now but the fact that i have two exams in like 30 min. that im not nearly ready for hinders my ability to take time for it.

[IAmCountryMusic]

spoken like a true catholic......lets all give him a hand while he is ushered back to his single-minded religious lifestyle where he can......wait, im not even going to get into this
i didnt know that there was a problem being a christian, but fuck people who try to convert you.
im from utah the mormon/asshole capitol of the world and im a baptist and i have to deal with people trying to convert me to the mormon religion almost everyday.
so fuck you head, fitty will be a christian if he wants to be and fuck people who put down other peoples religion

[brianthomas7]

I think it is official that this board can take any thread 10 pages deep now. 90% of it is comprised of pure bickering. But hey, I guess that is the point of an open forum, and I do keep coming back.... so my point is what again? damn.

[jynxedheart]

I find it hilarious that some of you are actually defending this.

oh, as do i. i guess that people dont get the fact that it is all a ploy. lets not get into the subject of "god talking to him" and whatnot, since, in case some of you didnt know, we are not all christians on this website. the fact of the matter is that its just a bunch of bullshit needed to grab some extra attention in the media for a guy who can easily do it. you know what, good for him, for taking advantage of the fact that people will publicize every damned thing they think will spark controversion. now if he gets shot by a man that still, even though is a millionare, has some "street" left in him, then that is just the way the world turns and perhaps he can then be content with moving in with "the big guy"

[Cerpin Taxt]

I am going to take a stand on this, and I see that overall there is a very liberal view on this. Most people love to jump on the bandwagon when someone does something for God. Now no one knows what God told him, but to say that he is using it to advance his career, now thats a joke.

Do you not realize how successful a band Korn was? Obviously, this guy doesnt need the money and if he wanted fame he would have stayed in Korn. As far as the atheist beliefs saying they are proud to be atheist and attack a Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis, do you not even know that C.S. Lewis was originally an atheist to begin with, but then turn a Christian!! Get your stuff straight.

Now, I dont necessarily agree with the fact that if 50 doesnt like the song that he will release it to the public, but obviously there are plenty of people in the world including myself who at times are not on the right path and need to be reminded of God's love and be reprimanded as well for their actions.

Thanks for reading.

I didn't "attack" C.S. Lewis, I stated that the argument he present in that book is weak. The book itself is great, incidentally.

Do you really think I would have commented about Lewis without knowing that he was once an atheist? What did I say that made you think that I didn't know this? My "stuff" is more than straight, and you don't have the right to tell me it's not.

So, fuck off.

[jynxedheart]

i didnt know that there was a problem being a christian, but fuck people who try to convert you.
im from utah the mormon/asshole capitol of the world and im a baptist and i have to deal with people trying to convert me to the mormon religion almost everyday.
so fuck you head, fitty will be a christian if he wants to be and fuck people who put down other peoples religion

oh there is no problem with being christian at all and that is not what i was trying to get at. i was raised catholic but realized that i didnt wanna be a sheep anymore and sought after ideas that fit me, as myself. i follow deism and still have plenty, obvsiouly, friends that are christian and that is totally cool. i just dont like people who either a.) push it onto others or b.) think that it is the only religion worth noting

[Bury Your Head]

What do your neighbors do?


oh this should be good...... ;)


well once i was outside with my girlfriend and they come out and was like "matt turn noise (but i was playing saosin) that down and come join us for bible study"

they also think they are better and numerous times tried to "save me" they also throw parties in the name of "god" and a bunch of other shit

[IAmCountryMusic]

oh there is no problem with being christian at all and that is not what i was trying to get at. i was raised catholic but realized that i didnt wanna be a sheep anymore and sought after ideas that fit me, as myself. i follow deism and still have plenty, obvsiouly, friends that are christian and that is totally cool. i just dont like people who either a.) push it onto others or b.) think that it is the only religion worth noting
if i had relized that in the first place i could have saved myself from sounding like an asshole

[SonEric84]

oh, as do i. i guess that people dont get the fact that it is all a ploy. lets not get into the subject of "god talking to him" and whatnot, since, in case some of you didnt know, we are not all christians on this website. the fact of the matter is that its just a bunch of bullshit needed to grab some extra attention in the media for a guy who can easily do it. you know what, good for him, for taking advantage of the fact that people will publicize every damned thing they think will spark controversion. now if he gets shot by a man that still, even though is a millionare, has some "street" left in him, then that is just the way the world turns and perhaps he can then be content with moving in with "the big guy"


The fact that he said "the big guy" further proves it's just bullshit. Plus c'mon why in the hell would God write a letter to 50 CENT!? I mean sure he's an idiot, but I think if God were to write a letter or send a message it would be about oh, I don't know, something important maybe?....hahaha it's crazy how gullible some people are.

[Sureshot182]

kind of like Tré's dad in the movie 'Boyz N the Hood,' " Welch continued. "There is really no way he can come back at me through music because it's not from me ... it's from the Big Guy. Even 50 respects the Big Guy." lol, possibly the funniest thing i have ever read, out side of online conversations. well at least his dirty ass got a bath in the river. hey, he may be full of shit, but at least he's not contributing to the crap that IS korn.

[SonEric84]

kind of like Tré's dad in the movie 'Boyz N the Hood,' " Welch continued. "There is really no way he can come back at me through music because it's not from me ... it's from the Big Guy. Even 50 respects the Big Guy." lol, possibly the funniest thing i have ever read, out side of online conversations. well at least his dirty ass got a bath in the river. hey, he may be full of shit, but at least he's not contributing to the crap that IS korn.


Yeah but dealing with one horrible band is better than dealing with one horrible band and a solo artist from said band.

[Alan Rupp]

did you just compare Paul/Saul to the former gutarist of Korn? sorry i really don't mean to patronize, it's just funny to say it out loud.
I thought the comparison was farily apt. You need to remember that Paul was a Pharisee and co-opter of Christianity, using for his own advancement. Seems pretty familiar in this situation...

Anyway, I don't think it's up to us to say who God has spoken to and who he hasn't. You may believe that he wouldn't speak to him, but don't try to pass it off as rational thought and then claim this guy "lost his mind" or "is a total idiot." No one has lived inside his head and no one has experienced what he has.

If you're going to ridicule anything, ridicule the fact that he's using his personal beliefs as a way to market an album.

[jynxedheart]

if i had relized that in the first place i could have saved myself from sounding like an asshole

haha s'all good, my b, my b

[EvilButters]

I don't think he's insane for his beliefs. I, myself, am VERY religious and have a strong faith in god and firmly believe in all my thoughts, practices, etc. I think it's great for everyone to believe in something and healthy to have some sense of spirituality. However, I think writing a song about another famous person and saying that he can't get mad at it because it's from God is a bit out of left field. I highly doubt God would be using former Korn guitarist, Head, as his spokesperson, especially to 50 Cent.

I agree with you. I've never been very religious. I don't go to church nor have I read the bible but I do believe in God. I didn't make fun of Head for leaving Korn because he found God. That's fine. The only time something like that would bug me is when someone tries to preach at me and "save" me. If I want saving or you to preach at me, I would've asked for it. I mean no disrespect it's just that really pisses me off. This reminds me of when like serial killers get caught and after they've been in jail for awhile they go to court and take the stand and go "It's alright because I found God." :headshake

[Cal Smith]

It's funny how many people decide to call his transition to religion stupid and idiotic. I suppose his life before, of doing every drug in site was a completely sane thing to do. Yes, what a total fool......quitting drugs and pursuing something meaningful to himself that has been proven to be healthy for someones life.

[Dream4Distance]

"I still love those guys to death, but if anybody trashes God, I am human and will defend Him and myself by any means necessary."

Aww, what a good (read: scarey-arsed) Christian. ;P

As far as this whole, "you're an idiot," stuff going on in this thread, wasting time bothering to even discuss this matter makes us all idiots, including myself now that I've been drawn into posting to it, sigh.

To those defending his right to have beliefs should also realize that the fact that true beliefs are usually a highly personal matter and feeling the need to advertise them via mass media channels like mtv of all places undermines the sincerity of such convictions. Who am I to judge? I'm a person that does have my own beliefs but isn't on mtv.com telling you "how it is." There's a difference between fully devout in your religion/beliefs and being narrow-minded enough in this day and age to think that everyone else has to fully agree with you.

d4d

[Cal Smith]

Aww, what a good (read: scarey-arsed) Christian. ;P

As far as this whole, "you're an idiot," stuff going on in this thread, wasting time bothering to even discuss this matter makes us all idiots, including myself now that I've been drawn into posting to it, sigh.

To those defending his right to have beliefs should also realize that the fact that true beliefs are usually a highly personal matter and feeling the need to advertise them via mass media channels like mtv of all places undermines the sincerity of such convictions. Who am I to judge? I'm a person that does have my own beliefs but isn't on mtv.com telling you "how it is." There's a difference between fully devout in your religion/beliefs and being narrow-minded enough in this day and age to think that everyone else has to fully agree with you.

d4d

You are suppose to advertise it according to Christianity. I mean that's the whole point of Baptism, you are showing (advertising) to the world that you are a Christian.

[trueASKEW]

I don't think anyone grasps just how funny this "news" story is.

I mean come on, he's on a mission from god to save 50 cent.

I mean how does that conversation with god go?

[kapler23]

If something truly changes your life of course you would want to share it. As far as someone calling me a narrow minded Catholic, way to stereotype. I am not Catholic but A Christian yes.

Along with another person defending that they knew CS Lewis was originally an atheist and saw what was wrong with that, then wouldnt that cause you to question any legitimacy of your point?

I just think its great that a man who is no longer damaging himself physically (with drugs), and has found joy in his life is being attacked because he chose Christianity. Like if he said he was to become a Buddhist or Muslim and was sending 50 a letter from Muhammed, would anyone reply again oh stupid Muslim trying to convert 50? No they would just say to each his own.

So for me to be attacked personally is pretty great, because all it is is bitter kids who are trying to show how they have been wronged in the past and rebelling against the "religious system" which has it ever really been forced on you? Or is it just so commonly accepted like a local fast-food place that you just have had enough and wanna do your own thing?? Well I am glad your enjoying attacking someone who has found life in something he believes in.

[Absolute Mest]

one thing i never understood, if you say a giant pink elephant told to do it, you're automatically considered crazy. but if you say God did then some of the people MIGHT think you're crazy and a bunch of them will say that you're getting closer to God. If i was around thousands of years ago i bet the giant pink elephant religion would be one of the dominant religions. but yeah.

i've never been one to say that any religion is wrong, i just lack the evidence to be proved wrong/right so i remain an atheist. people can believe whatever they want. but i do think that head is a little bit out there. I know a lot of a really christian people but they refrain from taking it such extremes as head does. they've taught me that you can't force faith upon someone and you need to find it yourself. you can't force it upon someone.

so i remain an atheist, maybe one day ill be drawn into religion but right now, im happy with things the way they are.

my 2 cents

[Cerpin Taxt]

Along with another person defending that they knew CS Lewis was originally an atheist and saw what was wrong with that, then wouldnt that cause you to question any legitimacy of your point?


That person was me.

What the fuck are you talking about? Now I'm just curious.

I don't think there is anything wrong with him being an atheist and then becoming Christian. That's his own personal journey. He chose to make that journey a somewhat public one throughout his career and I respect that, as should you. I happen to disagree with the reasons for his conversion, and given that he made these reasons public I think I have right to. He felt that Christianity was "reasonable" and that it a logical choice. His logic, unfourtunately, was poor. How does any of this call into question the legitimacy of my point?

Let me reiterate: my point is that the argument in the book "A Grief Observed" is fragile and unimpressive. It doesn't seem like you've even read the book, so why are telling me that my point has no legitimacy? If you want to get into it, get into it. Don't just fucking sit there spouting nonesense.

[radiofriendly]

I thought the comparison was farily apt. You need to remember that Paul was a Pharisee and co-opter of Christianity, using for his own advancement. Seems pretty familiar in this situation...

Anyway, I don't think it's up to us to say who God has spoken to and who he hasn't. You may believe that he wouldn't speak to him, but don't try to pass it off as rational thought and then claim this guy "lost his mind" or "is a total idiot." No one has lived inside his head and no one has experienced what he has.

If you're going to ridicule anything, ridicule the fact that he's using his personal beliefs as a way to market an album.

oh i think that's a good point. my comment was just to humor the thought that we're actually in a situation to where we're putting them in the same sentence.

one more point. assuming that Welch is for real about all this let's break it down. He's using all of this 'god talking to me' stuff in order to promote one of his upcoming songs, and also in the process, kind of blackmailing somebody else(isn't that god's name in vein to an extent). everybody that's defending this guy on the basis that we dont know what he saw, seem to agree that it's wrong what he's doing with it in order to further his career. i dont know about anybody else, but i see a gap in that logic. would god really speak to somebody that shallow anyway?

[kissbangkill]

so ok, i guess i'll chime in with my two cents... i'm a christian and i have my relationship with "the big guy" and all of those good things... but come on, lighten up people. if you fail to see the humor in this article, then you seriously need to lighten up. get offline and step outside for five minutes. it's a beautiful world out there. i mean come on, former nu metal guitarist is looking to save one of the biggest names in the rap industry. wether it's a marketing ploy, or he actually feels like this is what he's meant to do, he's got to realize that people are going to think it's odd. i mean, when was the last time anyone did anything like this? and who's to say 50 cent doesn't already have a relationship with god? it may or may not be a healthy one, but he may very well in fact already have an existing relationship with god. he may not even believe in god. and if he doesn't, it's his right to do so. same if he does. if head wants to try to save him, let em, but he's gotta realize that people are going to find the idea ludacris...hmm, maybe he's next. ok i'm done here.

[screwtape]

what he needs to do is cowrite this letter and song with green day, as we recently learned that their music has spirtitual powers.

[radiofriendly]

i heard that god told 50 cent that Welch was a bitch

[Cal Smith]

It also strikes me how easily you can be labled a bigot, racist, homophobe, etc.........., but when it comes to religion (any religion) it's free game. Something isn't right there.

[AshesAshes]

i'm sure 50 will love his song written from The Big Guy.
there i fixed it for ya....:) haha did anyone else find it funny he was calling him the big guy...

[Cal Smith]

That person was me.

What the fuck are you talking about? Now I'm just curious.

I don't think there is anything wrong with him being an atheist and then becoming Christian. That's his own personal journey. He chose to make that journey a somewhat public one throughout his career and I respect that, as should you. I happen to disagree with the reasons for his conversion, and given that he made these reasons public I think I have right to. He felt that Christianity was "reasonable" and that it a logical choice. His logic, unfourtunately, was poor. How does any of this call into question the legitimacy of my point?

Let me reiterate: my point is that the argument in the book "A Grief Observed" is fragile and unimpressive. It doesn't seem like you've even read the book, so why are telling me that my point has no legitimacy? If you want to get into it, get into it. Don't just fucking sit there spouting nonesense.

You are somewhat right in that you have a 'right' to, but you should realize when to use these 'rights'. I have a 'right' to be a complete racist but that doesnt mean I should. Plus I promise you no one is putting your opinion up there with CS Lewis, no matter what you might think.

In conclusion.........just because you can express how stupid YOU feel someone decision is on religion doesnt mean you should.

[SLADE775]

there i fixed it for ya....:) haha did anyone else find it funny he was calling him the big guy...


HAHAHAHAH yeah! I did

[kapler23]

Wait. Are you kidding?

I don't think he's insane for "having something to believe in." I think he's insane because of WHAT he believes in. The belief he has chosen is a totally fabricated pile of bullshit. Personally, I think it's insane on ratrional grounds. To believe in what he believes in is dellusional. That doesn't mean I don't wish him or anyone else with his beliefs well, of course, but I think I'm entitled to my opion on the matter, as are you.

Nice Lewis quote. Have you read "A Grief Observed"? He makes a convincing (but ultimately shallow) argument for belief in God...

Hey man, my point is that you said "to believe in what he believes in is dellusional", then you reference a C.S. Lewis book stating that his argument is convincing, that argument being his reason from converting from atheism to Christianity, doesnt that in turn mean you are calling him dellusional as well...thats all my point is, so I wanted to make sure you knew that CS Lewis was in fact first an atheist, I am not attacking you personally. I am just surprised why when I defend this guys new found faith Im consider closed minded, and when someone attacks him or me its called expressing an opinion (now I am not saying you did that, but the general theme of this thread leads that way) ok? feel free to message me or whatever, this is interesting either way.

[ShoeSh1ne]

I'm not defending him, but to say he lost his mind isn't the right way of saying it. I'll paraphrase a good quote to sum it up:

When you talk to God, it's prayer. When God talks to you, people think you're crazy.

[AshesAshes]

I'm not defending him, but to say he lost his mind isn't the right way of saying it. I'll paraphrase a good quote to sum it up:

When you talk to God, it's prayer. When God talks to you, people think you're crazy.
this is really random but everytime i see your name..i think of this guy i use to work with he was this old black guy i forgot his name but ya he was a really crappy dishwsaher he fell so far behind on dishes and someone was like hurry up dude he threw his rag at the kids head and was like i aint no shoe shining boy............and he quit...awesome :animateds yea if god talks too you your gonna be assumed to be crazy joan of arc anybody?

[IAmCountryMusic]

there i fixed it for ya....:) haha did anyone else find it funny he was calling him the big guy...
i thought that big guy was referring to fieldy, the fat guy in korn :(

[AshesAshes]

i thought that big guy was referring to fieldy, the fat guy in korn :(
silly dj....:( nobody voted =for you as the best powerranger in my powerranger thread go vote for yourself its in the general area

[PaintTheTarget]

I just think its great that a man who is no longer damaging himself physically (with drugs), and has found joy in his life is being attacked because he chose Christianity. Like if he said he was to become a Buddhist or Muslim and was sending 50 a letter from Muhammed, would anyone reply again oh stupid Muslim trying to convert 50? No they would just say to each his own.


That's just silly. If he said any religious figure was trying to channel a letter from him to 50 CENT he would be bashed, people aren't doing it b/c they have some amazing hatred of Christianity. Take a step back and look at the situation. (for the most part) PEOPLE ARE NOT INSULTING HIS MOVEMENT TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY!!! The humor in it is that a former Korn guitarist--using the name Head--claims to be receiving messages from God to people like the biggest (possibly) rap star today--50 Cent. Not only this, but if 50 doesn't positively accept this message from Head/God, he will be forced to put it on his solo cd so the whole world will hear it. If you don't realize that the humor/craziness in this story has very little to do with Christianity and more to do with one man's ridiculous story then you seriously do have some problems. Sure some people are saying things slightly offensive things (emphasis on slightly--most people are just critiqueing religion which is done by even the smartest people and the most utterly religious people for every religion out there), but most people are just commenting on how stupid this story is. Good for him if he converted to Christianity, thats great, just dont preach/threaten other people, especially as a marketing ploy in the name of God.

[IAmCountryMusic]

silly dj....:( nobody voted =for you as the best powerranger in my powerranger thread go vote for yourself its in the general area
its morphin time!!!

[combatchuckaa]

I don't think he's crazy. I share the same beliefs as Head and if he feels led to minister to 50 Cent, who's going to stop him?

[AshesAshes]

its morphin time!!!
hahah gget on aim buddy!! :)

[radiofriendly]

PEOPLE ARE NOT INSULTING HIS MOVEMENT TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY!!! The humor in it is that a former Korn guitarist--using the name Head--claims to be receiving messages from God to people like the biggest (possibly) rap star today--50 Cent. Not only this, but if 50 doesn't positively accept this message from Head/God, he will be forced to put it on his solo cd so the whole world will hear it. If you don't realize that the humor/craziness in this story has very little to do with Christianity and more to do with one man's ridiculous story then you seriously do have some problems. Sure some people are saying things slightly offensive things (emphasis on slightly--most people are just critiqueing religion which is done by even the smartest people and the most utterly religious people for every religion out there), but most people are just commenting on how stupid this story is. Good for him if he converted to Christianity, thats great, just dont preach/threaten other people, especially as a marketing ploy in the name of God.

i like the way you put it. it's not the faith that we're bashing. it's the way he's using it. there's no sense of christianity anywhere near his methods of converting. it's just too tacky. history just has a bad track record when it comes to this kind of stuff.

[Jared Kaufman]

clearly, being religious, even overly so, means you're crazy, right jared?
You're the most ignorant cunt on this site. Based on your scene points (I know they don't matter and I'm sure you don't care about them), I think it's pretty safe to say that your own mother doesn't even like you. Next time you decide to let that butthole on your face you refer to as a mouth spit out the diarrhea known as your voice, thoughts and opinions, do a little more investigating (read back a cpl pages perhaps and see the few posts where I express my own personal opinions and beliefs) and realize what the hell you're talking about.

[WSUskee]

I would say he already has god on his side if you are shot like 9 times and dont die then you must have some faith in god. Maybe he was just lucky but anyway having a message from god through this korn dude im sure isnt going to go over well with 50.

[Jared Kaufman]

That's just silly. If he said any religious figure was trying to channel a letter from him to 50 CENT he would be bashed, people aren't doing it b/c they have some amazing hatred of Christianity. Take a step back and look at the situation. (for the most part) PEOPLE ARE NOT INSULTING HIS MOVEMENT TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY!!! The humor in it is that a former Korn guitarist--using the name Head--claims to be receiving messages from God to people like the biggest (possibly) rap star today--50 Cent. Not only this, but if 50 doesn't positively accept this message from Head/God, he will be forced to put it on his solo cd so the whole world will hear it. If you don't realize that the humor/craziness in this story has very little to do with Christianity and more to do with one man's ridiculous story then you seriously do have some problems. Sure some people are saying things slightly offensive things (emphasis on slightly--most people are just critiqueing religion which is done by even the smartest people and the most utterly religious people for every religion out there), but most people are just commenting on how stupid this story is. Good for him if he converted to Christianity, thats great, just dont preach/threaten other people, especially as a marketing ploy in the name of God.
I think it's safe to say someone understood what I was saying in the post. What would you all think if I came on here and started making posts about how God told me to tell everyone they needed to listen to and love Brand New or Taking Back Sunday or any other band you can think of because they were the greatest band ever? What if Jason came on here and said he made this website because God told him to? We get bashed for a million and one other things so I'm pretty sure our sanity would come into question on this one. I'm sure God has a lot more to be concerned with than the music industry and what artist is trying to "help out" another artist. For example, I think it's always funny when an athlete, musician, actor, etc. thanks god when they win an award as if God had a say in it or actually cared or made it happen. Just MY two cents and MY personal opinion.

[AshesAshes]

You're the most ignorant cunt on this site. Based on your scene points (I know they don't matter and I'm sure you don't care about them), I think it's pretty safe to say that your own mother doesn't even like you. Next time you decide to let that butthole on your face you refer to as a mouth spit out the diarrhea known as your voice, thoughts and opinions, do a little more investigating (read back a cpl pages perhaps and see the few posts where I express my own personal opinions and beliefs) and realize what the hell you're talking about.
haha yea he is a stupid little monkey

[Ryan Mills]

This guy is a moron plain and simple.

[Spaulding44]

why stop at Fitty...he should write a song to Marilyn Manson too

[kapler23]

You're the most ignorant cunt on this site. Based on your scene points (I know they don't matter and I'm sure you don't care about them), I think it's pretty safe to say that your own mother doesn't even like you. Next time you decide to let that butthole on your face you refer to as a mouth spit out the diarrhea known as your voice, thoughts and opinions, do a little more investigating (read back a cpl pages perhaps and see the few posts where I express my own personal opinions and beliefs) and realize what the hell you're talking about.


You are using his "scene points" against him! Enough said. lol

[AgentX]

*cough* Publicity Stunt *cough*

[bottledregrets]

I don't think he's insane for his beliefs. I, myself, am VERY religious and have a strong faith in god and firmly believe in all my thoughts, practices, etc. I think it's great for everyone to believe in something and healthy to have some sense of spirituality. However, I think writing a song about another famous person and saying that he can't get mad at it because it's from God is a bit out of left field. I highly doubt God would be using former Korn guitarist, Head, as his spokesperson, especially to 50 Cent.

You explained that perfectly

[Fullcollapse3k]

Good for him. Someone needs to save 50, because the Massacre was awful.

[Cal Smith]

You explained that perfectly

I agree........what i have a general problem with was people questioning his beliefs. Now how far 'Head' interprets his beliefs and takes them is purely up to him, eventhough I might not agree with him. This thread is full of people bashing on Christianity though, and that's what upsets me.

[bottledregrets]

I agree........what i have a general problem with was people questioning his beliefs. Now how far 'Head' interprets his beliefs and takes them is purely up to him, eventhough I might not agree with him. This thread is full of people bashing on Christianity though, and that's what upsets me.

I fully agree with you on that one. The whole bashing on other peoples religion, all is can say is people will be idiots. I am down with what you said though, that is where I stand.

[MidniteVulture]

Christians are supposed to witness to non-Christians, I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Fuck, my Christian friend has witnessed to me before, would you like me to write an article about that and post it on the front page?

[abandnamedjon]

Sounds like this Head guy is going the way of that Houston rapper guy..

[bayonetwork]

i'm glad he was smart enough to leave korn but goddamn that dude has just gone mad.

[ShoeSh1ne]

You're the most ignorant cunt on this site. Based on your scene points (I know they don't matter and I'm sure you don't care about them), I think it's pretty safe to say that your own mother doesn't even like you. Next time you decide to let that butthole on your face you refer to as a mouth spit out the diarrhea known as your voice, thoughts and opinions, do a little more investigating (read back a cpl pages perhaps and see the few posts where I express my own personal opinions and beliefs) and realize what the hell you're talking about.

Well he did sorta have a point...

[Jared Kaufman]

Well he did sorta have a point...
Originally Posted by KarateExplosion
clearly, being religious, even overly so, means you're crazy, right jared?

No he didn't. What he said cleary was the opposite of what I said a few pages before his post and represents a belief the exact opposite of what I stated as my own and how I feel. There's no truth, point, etc. to it whatsoever (not even remotely).

[slickwataris]

That's great. Screw 50.

[NorthofSD]

Ya...it's not that insane...I've seen close friends that use to do drugs and wouldn't give god or anyone else a minute of their time...and they totally changed and believed in god and stuff......the change was so dramatic cause I thought god or w/e would be the last thing they'd chose. Miracle or not...I have no clue....maybe he doesn't wanna go to hell...that doesnt sound too insane. I heard it's not fun or w/e. At least he's doing something with his time or w/e.....it's either that or do 1800 cash calls with gary coleman.

[nicolerork]

It's things like these that makes me lean towards athieism

Why do people judge others based on their religious beliefs?

[nicolerork]

Well I guess you could say people are made in the image of their God, if you believe in that. I don't know about God writing songs thru people though. 'God made me do it' is sketchy. You're either enlightened or something in your brain isn't clicking right.

God inspires people, but I personally don't believe that God told Head to write that song...I guess I'm not qualified to make that judgment though. That's between him and God. I'm happy that Brian found his happiness in God, as long as he doesn't get weird about it like Benny Hinn. Ah Benny Hinn, what a character.

Brian is a new Christian, you know how they get sometimes, they're excited about it at first, then they finally mature in their walk with God and settle down about it.

Not all Christians are like this, or Benny Hinn.

[MindusofMoo]

No matter what religion someone believes in, it doesn't give them the right to preach in full media attention about the wrongs of one other individual. I think Welch should've thought more about the shitty light that Christianity is already being viewed in before taking a step like this. It's more invasive than a lot of people are willing to put up with.

[Cerpin Taxt]

You are somewhat right in that you have a 'right' to, but you should realize when to use these 'rights'. I have a 'right' to be a complete racist but that doesnt mean I should. Plus I promise you no one is putting your opinion up there with CS Lewis, no matter what you might think.

In conclusion.........just because you can express how stupid YOU feel someone decision is on religion doesnt mean you should.

I never said his decision was "stupid". In fact, I referred to his argument for faith as "convincing", although I don't happen to agree with it.

And when did I say that I thought of myself as having as important an opinion as C.S. Lewis?

Take your witch hunt somewhere else.

[Cerpin Taxt]

Hey man, my point is that you said "to believe in what he believes in is dellusional", then you reference a C.S. Lewis book stating that his argument is convincing, that argument being his reason from converting from atheism to Christianity, doesnt that in turn mean you are calling him dellusional as well...thats all my point is, so I wanted to make sure you knew that CS Lewis was in fact first an atheist, I am not attacking you personally. I am just surprised why when I defend this guys new found faith Im consider closed minded, and when someone attacks him or me its called expressing an opinion (now I am not saying you did that, but the general theme of this thread leads that way) ok? feel free to message me or whatever, this is interesting either way.

Is it impossible for you concieve of an idea that could be both "convincing" and "dellusional"?

[Cal Smith]

I never said his decision was "stupid". In fact, I referred to his argument for faith as "convincing", although I don't happen to agree with it.

And when did I say that I thought of myself as having as important an opinion as C.S. Lewis?

Take your witch hunt somewhere else.

I believe these were your exact words, " I think he's insane because of WHAT he believes in. The belief he has chosen is a totally fabricated pile of bullshit." Again, you're right, you have the 'right' to say it, but that doesnt mean neccesarily you should.

Witch hunt...........that's laugable, could we be more over dramatic?

[Gleebo]

this dude right here has the sickest sig in the world...arrested development is fucking awesome and you should all be watching it.
.

Yes it is.

Since this thread is all religious/music debate I really have nothing to add since religion discussion isnt really my cup of tea. I don't dislike any certain religious group or align myself with any of them either. I was brought up Methodist and I dont really go to church at all anymore mainly because of working an overnight schedule that puts me in bed during church time. I probably wouldn't go anyway because its not really something in my life right now that I find necessary to my existance. I mean that could change... I respect anyones point of view when it comes to religion just like I do music, I just don't want it pushed on my by parents, peers, or society. I am my own person just like Head and 50 are their own people. If Head claims to have had a spiritual epiphany or whatever...good for him thats his bag. He can give his points of view to 50 and the world, it just doesn't mean we have to care or even listen. I just hope 50 handles the situation in a good way and either just says "thanks but no thanks" or just ignores it entirely. What I fear will happen is that the subject will end up causing a big stink and end up in an animosity driven song in response. I dont know how the Rap world works but it seems like even well intentioned idea from an outsider is shot down and turned into controversy just to make the news and sell records.

You basically can't even look at Eminiem without fearing a name drop in a song insulting you or your character. Whatever we all gotta make our money somehow.

Now "Caged Wisdom"....thats a religion I can get behind.....as long as I dont get genitalia waved at me to have a point proven.

[Cerpin Taxt]

I believe these were your exact words, " I think he's insane because of WHAT he believes in. The belief he has chosen is a totally fabricated pile of bullshit." Again, you're right, you have the 'right' to say it, but that doesnt mean neccesarily you should.

Witch hunt...........that's laugable, could we be more over dramatic?

Would you rather I just called you a troll? I think you know what I was getting it.

I'm not interested in flexing my "rights" - that's really not what this is about.

I think you might be misunderstanding who I was referring to and when. The above quote was in reference to Head, and I stand by what I said. My previous reply to you was in response to things I said about C.S. Lewis. Does that make sense to you? If not, go back and read the whole thread over again.

[Cal Smith]

Would you rather I just called you a troll? I think you know what I was getting it.

I'm not interested in flexing my "rights" - that's really not what this is about.

I think you might be misunderstanding who I was referring to and when. The above quote was in reference to Head, and I stand by what I said. My previous reply to you was in response to things I said about C.S. Lewis. Does that make sense to you? If not, go back and read the whole thread over again.

I understood who you were referring to and when you were referring to them. When I talked about using your 'right' I was referring broadly. Meaning in any instance, just like the quote I put up from you about Head, you should know when and what is appropriate to say even though you have the right to say it.

In this thread you've demeaned Christianity, and I find it rather absurd that you call his beliefs insane unless you possess the obvious, entire truth and would like to share it with us and the scientific community because you could clear up a lot of questions that have been asked about religion since the beginning of time.

[whyzell]

Korn.
50 Cent.
Dimebag.
god.

Nope. Didn't care about one thing in that article.

[piebaldkid42]

haha, this is hilarious

[Gleebo]

haha, this is hilarious

Most 100 plus replies threads tend to get that way.

I don't know who is more passionate and defensive of their views....religious zealots or people who denounce all religion. Not implying either of them are present here in this case but it seems like the scales are pretty even on how vocal people in each group are about their beliefs or lackthereof.

[RagingDemon]

Plays are fun.

The G-Unit butt-rapes Head.
(Even without The Game, but I think he will help in molesting him)

Leaving Head to die, God would appear before him once again.

God: I never told you to deliver any messege to 50 Cent.

Head: I know, I just wanted to be the next Jesus.

God: You can't be the next Jesus, because Jesus was as stupid as you. Why do you think I left him to die on the cross? Because he was going around saying that he was my son, but I never had sex for 4000 years.

Head: So Jesus was a liar, and all my time studying the Bible was all just a waste of time?

God: Yes, those stories were total bullshit that were made-up with a moral at the end.

Head: Maybe I've should've done something with my life, instead of believing in a false god like Jesus.

(All of a sudden Dimebag shows up next to God)

God: I must go, because me and Dimebag are gonna get high then go to a strip joint.

Dimebag: Yeah you fucking loser.

God: Yeah, you're pretty fucked.

(God and Dimebag went to get high and rocked out with their cocks out. All of the sudden Pacman ate Head and spat out his clothing on the sidewalk, where 2 hobos fought over his Jesus-Wannabe clothing)

And then G-Unit will get back together with The Game and then they will make a new album about fucking Head in the ass.

DONT HATE ME BECAUSE I SPEAK MY MIND!

[nicolerork]

Plays are fun.

The G-Unit butt-rapes Head.
(Even without The Game, but I think he will help in molesting him)

Leaving Head to die, God would appear before him once again.

God: I never told you to deliver any messege to 50 Cent.

Head: I know, I just wanted to be the next Jesus.

God: You can't be the next Jesus, because Jesus was as stupid as you. Why do you think I left him to die on the cross? Because he was going around saying that he was my son, but I never had sex for 4000 years.

Head: So Jesus was a liar, and all my time studying the Bible was all just a waste of time?

God: Yes, those stories were total bullshit that were made-up with a moral at the end.

Head: Maybe I've should've done something with my life, instead of believing in a false god like Jesus.

(All of a sudden Dimebag shows up next to God)

God: I must go, because me and Dimebag are gonna get high then go to a strip joint.

Dimebag: Yeah you fucking loser.

God: Yeah, you're pretty fucked.

(God and Dimebag went to get high and rocked out with their cocks out. All of the sudden Pacman ate Head and spat out his clothing on the sidewalk, where 2 hobos fought over his Jesus-Wannabe clothing)

And then G-Unit will get back together with The Game and then they will make a new album about fucking Head in the ass.

DONT HATE ME BECAUSE I SPEAK MY MIND!


What's your point?

[RagingDemon]

What's your point?

That you'll be eaten by Pacman if you try be as stupid as Head.

[Cerpin Taxt]

I understood who you were referring to and when you were referring to them. When I talked about using your 'right' I was referring broadly. Meaning in any instance, just like the quote I put up from you about Head, you should know when and what is appropriate to say even though you have the right to say it.

In this thread you've demeaned Christianity, and I find it rather absurd that you call his beliefs insane unless you possess the obvious, entire truth and would like to share it with us and the scientific community because you could clear up a lot of questions that have been asked about religion since the beginning of time.

I'm not going to get into the specifics of my beliefs on this board. I will say that I don't think you need to possess any kind of absolute "obvious" truth to call Head's beliefs insane or to feel that Christianity is a "pile of bullshit." To me, this IS obvious. If you or anyone else really cares and wants to know why I feel this way, PM me or something and I'd be more than glad to chat or even debate about the issue.

[Gleebo]

Plays are fun.

The G-Unit butt-rapes Head.
(Even without The Game, but I think he will help in molesting him)

Leaving Head to die, God would appear before him once again.

God: I never told you to deliver any messege to 50 Cent.

Head: I know, I just wanted to be the next Jesus.

God: You can't be the next Jesus, because Jesus was as stupid as you. Why do you think I left him to die on the cross? Because he was going around saying that he was my son, but I never had sex for 4000 years.

Head: So Jesus was a liar, and all my time studying the Bible was all just a waste of time?

God: Yes, those stories were total bullshit that were made-up with a moral at the end.

Head: Maybe I've should've done something with my life, instead of believing in a false god like Jesus.

(All of a sudden Dimebag shows up next to God)

God: I must go, because me and Dimebag are gonna get high then go to a strip joint.

Dimebag: Yeah you fucking loser.

God: Yeah, you're pretty fucked.

(God and Dimebag went to get high and rocked out with their cocks out. Head died on the sidewalk 4 minutes later, where 2 hobos fought over his Jesus-Wannabe clothing)

And then G-Unit will get back together with The Game and then they will make a new album about fucking Head in the ass.

DONT HATE ME BECAUSE I SPEAK MY MIND!


I may hire you as a staff writer for my new blasphemous work "The Bible pt 2: What You Didn't Get to see"(The Unrated version).

I have pitched my idea to several networks who were for the most part shocked and yet strangely interested. But to be fair how could anyone pass up the story of how there were actually 12 and a 1/2 disciples..... There were 13 but Malik was stripped of his body from the waste down during a training session on how to walk on water. Lets just say Jesus felt entirely responsible for the waterskiing incident on the Tigris Euphrates and was never able to return to his gold metal winning form.

[Cal Smith]

I'm not going to get into the specifics of my beliefs on this board. I will say that I don't think you need to possess any kind of absolute "obvious" truth to call Head's beliefs insane or to feel that Christianity is a "pile of bullshit." If you or anyone else really cares and wants to know why I feel this way, PM me or something and I'd be more than glad to chat or even debate about the issue.

So you don't mind expressing on the board how his beliefs are "a pile of bullshit", but you do mind explaining on the board how his are and how yours are more right.

Makes a whole lot of sense...........

[SundaeBest]

It's funny how many people decide to call his transition to religion stupid and idiotic. I suppose his life before, of doing every drug in site was a completely sane thing to do. Yes, what a total fool......quitting drugs and pursuing something meaningful to himself that has been proven to be healthy for someones life.

What is it with you and all the other idiots that post with the same narrow-minded thought process? The fact that you can breathe and type at the same time astounds me. Your linear method of deriving conclusions is an insult to intelligence. Nobody is blaming him for trying to do something good with his life. People are blaming him for being a dipshit. I think the main point is that god hardly ever makes public declarations through prophets and if hes gonna do so you would think it would be about pressing issues such as poverty, hunger, illness, war and not to one fuck up about another fuckup. I agree with the sentiment of your post that its not right to ridicule people striving for a positive change but when you let your sentiment guide your reasoning and overshadow the facts then you are just as stupid. Now quit trying to make me feel guilty about my opinion, Nazi!

P.s. Having an unexpected leap from atheism to Christianity is one thing, quitting hardcore drugs cold turkey is another and somehow I highly doubt that he did. :p

[RagingDemon]

I may hire you as a staff writer for my new blasphemous work "The Bible pt 2: What You Didn't Get to see"(The Unrated version).

When do I start?

AND I THINK MY SCENE POINTS JUST WENT DOWN

[Cerpin Taxt]

So you don't mind expressing on the board how his beliefs are "a pile of bullshit", but you do mind explaining on the board how his are and how yours are more right.

Makes a whole lot of sense...........

I'm not going to sit here and type pages and pages about this. I dont have the time! I DO feel that mine are more right, and like I said I'm not afriad of discussing them with ANYBODY, I just think it's silly to do it over this message board. My AIM is in my sig and I'm online right now.

[SundaeBest]

What would you all think if I came on here and started making posts about how God told me to tell everyone they needed to listen to and love Brand New or Taking Back Sunday because they were the greatest band ever?


I would say your right! XD

[Cal Smith]

What is it with you and all the other idiots that post with the same narrow-minded thought process? The fact that you can breathe and type at the same time astounds me. Your linear method of deriving conclusions is an insult to intelligence. Nobody is blaming him for trying to do something good with his life. People are blaming him for being a dipshit. I think the main point is that god hardly ever makes public declarations through prophets and if hes gonna do so you would think it would be about pressing issues such as poverty, hunger, illness, war and not to one fuck up about another fuckup. I agree with the sentiment of your post that its not right to ridicule people striving for a positive change but when you let your sentiment guide your reasoning and overshadow the facts then you are just as stupid. Now quit trying to make me feel guilty about my opinion, Nazi!

P.s. Having an unexpected leap from atheism to Christianity is one thing, quitting hardcore drugs cold turkey is another and somehow I highly doubt that he did. :p

Can you show me where I have been narrow-minded? I'm actually being very open-minded because if you look I also agree with what Jared said earlier, and with what I underlined in your post. Maybe your overlooked it or something else, but I've been the opposite of narrow-minded in this thread. My problem was with people who were simply bashing his beliefs and Christianity. If you want to question whether he talks to God, go for it because you should. There are tons of false prophets out there and they should be questioned.

Note I said earlier, "Now how far 'Head' interprets his beliefs and takes them is purely up to him, eventhough I might not agree with him."

[SundaeBest]

I was just quoting that one specific comment that I put on my post because most of the people on the board making fools of themselves weren’t acknowledging that it wasn’t Christianity....I

In your quote you specifically ridicule people bashing his transition to Christianity which I felt was not what people were doing. I felt you had good intentions just overlooked what people were really gripping about. Not a personal attack on you though. Got class now, ill be back around 8. Let me know if that helps


P.s. If those were not your true intentions and you cleared it up in a following post then I apologize, but the statement holds true to most of the other posters defending this sack of shit.

[Cal Smith]

I was just quoting that one specific comment that I put on my post because most of the people on the board making fools of themselves weren’t acknowledging that it wasn’t Christianity....I

In your quote you specifically ridicule people bashing his transition to Christianity which I felt was not what people were doing. I felt you had good intentions just overlooked what people were really gripping about. Not a personal attack on you though. Got class now, ill be back around 8. Let me know if that helps


P.s. If those were not your true intentions and you cleared it up in a following post then I apologize, but the statement holds true to most of the other posters defending this sack of shit.

Like I said, I dont have a problem with people questioning his speaking to God. I was skeptical when Reggie White said God told him to play football. I didnt like though when people question the sincerity of his beliefs, or bash the entire Christian religion.

They, nor me, have no clue on how sincere his beliefs are without talking to him or knowing what he's been through.

[exthuse]

I thought Head, was off the meth. Then I read the interview and believed differently

[hipvlr06]

I am Christian and I'm not going to ramble on claiming my beliefs are right and everyone elses are not or that im smart or you're stupid for believing whatever you believe in because that is pure ignorance and this is about what half of you on this board are doing. Seriously, if you do not know what you are talking about then please keep it to yourself. Basing a whole religion off of a rockstar...or anybody, is simply stupid. Good for Head or whatever his name is but it is more likely then not he is a faker because he mentions himself constantly and it is nothing about God. He magnifies how God came to him and choose him. If he truely found what he speaks of he wouldn't babble about what he is going to do or what he is making but what was done for him. Who knows? I'm not head, i have not walked in his shoes or seen/heard/done the things he has and i'm not justified to say that but thats my view on it

[Signals Corrupted]

why did this turn into a religious argument? this is ridiculous. CLEARLY, there is something wrong with head's head. HES INSANE. oh well. carry on

[actionandaction]

Plays are fun.

The G-Unit butt-rapes Head.
(Even without The Game, but I think he will help in molesting him)

Leaving Head to die, God would appear before him once again.

God: I never told you to deliver any messege to 50 Cent.

Head: I know, I just wanted to be the next Jesus.

God: You can't be the next Jesus, because Jesus was as stupid as you. Why do you think I left him to die on the cross? Because he was going around saying that he was my son, but I never had sex for 4000 years.

Head: So Jesus was a liar, and all my time studying the Bible was all just a waste of time?

God: Yes, those stories were total bullshit that were made-up with a moral at the end.

Head: Maybe I've should've done something with my life, instead of believing in a false god like Jesus.

(All of a sudden Dimebag shows up next to God)

God: I must go, because me and Dimebag are gonna get high then go to a strip joint.

Dimebag: Yeah you fucking loser.

God: Yeah, you're pretty fucked.

(God and Dimebag went to get high and rocked out with their cocks out. All of the sudden Pacman ate Head and spat out his clothing on the sidewalk, where 2 hobos fought over his Jesus-Wannabe clothing)

And then G-Unit will get back together with The Game and then they will make a new album about fucking Head in the ass.

DONT HATE ME BECAUSE I SPEAK MY MIND!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/whosemonow/stupidpost1.jpg

[xLOCUST REIGNx]

I wonder what the straight edge kids make of this.


uhhh... nothing?

[McDiggity]

Somewhat related....

http://img204.exs.cx/img204/455/keeprollin4uf.gif

[screwtape]

Plays are fun.

The G-Unit butt-rapes Head.
(Even without The Game, but I think he will help in molesting him)

Leaving Head to die, God would appear before him once again.

....

DONT HATE ME BECAUSE I SPEAK MY MIND!


please delete this post.

[goughjustin]

it's comments like that that make you look like an idiot.

its comments like this that keep me on ap.net

[bottledregrets]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/whosemonow/stupidpost1.jpg

Haha, ya I just wasted 10 seconds of my life reading that bs.

[xThursdayxPTWx]

I'm a Christian and when I started going to Church and praying regularly, it was nothing like that. Maybe he is sincere, but he's going a little overboard. Being a missionary is one thing, but it seems like he's doing it for publicity. There are plenty of people out there the Christian community can help, a good start would be half the people on this site, I don't think it needs to start with a celebrity like 50 Cent.

And wow, there a lot of ignorant people on this site. That's all.

[Gleebo]

I can't decide which graphic I like better....the 50 Cent covered wagon bling one or the how smart I am today graph.