NFL Week 8 Gameday Thread

[Chris M.]

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[Killadelphia]

go birds!

[crit]

Steven Jackson inactive today, go Pats.

[CarlosLunes]

bleh f u jackson!

[tacosforcharles]

I hope Tampa can pull out a win over the 'Boys.

[You Vandal]

There are some interesting matchups this week. I hope I get some good games with the Packers on the bye.

[tacosforcharles]

There are some interesting matchups this week. I hope I get some good games with the Packers on the bye.

The bye is always a fun week to watch other games without being nervous about the Pack, ha.

[MyWorldEntire]

Bye Week for the Bears, means more time to watch some games and concentrate on my fantasy teams.

[preppyak]

Burress not starting for the Giants on account of being a moron...that moves Dallas Baker Touchdown Maker (nice call Nick) up to like the 5th or 6th best receiver in the game. Chris Berman would go nuts with the chance to call that name out

And if you are a Vikings fan, sucks for you starting next week

Jay Glazer of FOX reports that the list of players who tested positive for a banned diuretic include both of the Vikings’ starting defensive tackles, Pat and Kevin Williams.

edit: Darren McFadden also out this week

[MyWorldEntire]

Haha, those Super Bowl predictions aren't looking so good for the Vikings.

[Vanilla Bear]

my fantasy teams are all full of fail today...not going to be a good day.

[c_rob2700]

Rams over Pats

[Killadelphia]

I want to watch the pre-game shows, but Arsenal-West Ham has been pretty exciting so far.

[KidRobot]

Burress not starting today.

Jacobs needs to have a big day and Eli just needs to manage the game.

[Killadelphia]

Rams over Pats

you are an epic failure.

[c_rob2700]

you are an epic failure.
i can hope

[MyWorldEntire]

I'm liking the Cards over the Panthers this week

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I wish the Steelers would play at 1 o'clock for once.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

My picks :

OAK @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS 705 (705) 144 (OAK) 119 (BAL)
ARI @ CAR Bank of America Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets FOX 708 (708) 155 (ARI) 91 (CAR)
TB @ DAL Texas Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets FOX 709 (709) 118 (TB) 122 (DAL)
WAS @ DET Ford Field 1:00 PM Tickets FOX 710 (710) 152 (WAS) 129 (DET)
BUF @ MIA Dolphin Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS 706 (706) 130 (BUF) 125 (MIA)
STL @ NE Gillette Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets FOX 711 (711) 90 (STL) 121 (NE)
SD @ NO Wembley Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS 704 (704) 110 (SD) 126 (NO)
KC @ NYJ Giants Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS 707 (707) 107 (KC) 123 (NYJ)
ATL @ PHI Lincoln Financial Field 1:00 PM Tickets FOX 712 (712) 154 (ATL) 127 (PHI)
CLE @ JAC Jacksonville Municipal Stadium 4:05 PM Tickets CBS 714 (714) 125 (CLE) 122 (JAC)
CIN @ HOU Reliant Stadium 4:05 PM Tickets CBS 713 (713) 119 (CIN) 126 (HOU)
NYG @ PIT Heinz Field 4:15 PM Tickets FOX 716 (716) 91 (NYG) 127 (PIT)
SEA @ SF Candlestick Park 4:15 PM Tickets FOX 715 (715) 123 (SEA) 121 (SF)

[FondestMemory]

nothing like waking up on a sunday to realize your tv decided to die in it's sleep.

fuck.

[Killadelphia]

nothing like waking up on a sunday to realize your tv decided to die in it's sleep.

fuck.

damn, that sucks.

[preppyak]

I wish the Steelers would play at 1 o'clock for once.
THey have all evening games for the rest of the season too...they'll play like, 3 1pm games this season...kind of crazy
nothing like waking up on a sunday to realize your tv decided to die in it's sleep.

fuck.
That blows...mostly because you missed Ne-Yo singing the national anthem (and Joss Stone singing God Save the Queen?)

[KidRobot]

NYG @ PIT Heinz Field 4:15 PM Tickets FOX 716 (716) 91 (NYG) 127 (PIT)

Really?

[IcedOpethBlind]

go cowgirls

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Joss Stone looking like a total fool right now.

ps. Who is Joss Stone?

[Killadelphia]

go cowgirls

hahaaha awesome. Even Dallas fans are getting smarter

[IcedOpethBlind]

a pop singer?

[c_rob2700]

Joss Stone looking like a total fool right now.

ps. Who is Joss Stone?
Singer/Actress
she's in Eragon that's all i know

[preppyak]

Joss Stone looking like a total fool right now.

ps. Who is Joss Stone?
Joss Stone was on MTV a while back, sort of a soul-rock mix when I last heard her stuff. She wasn't meant to sing an anthem though...but, unlike US fans, the Brits just sing along and cheer anyway instead of booing

Edit: Joss Stone had her first album go multi-platinum, despite being a cover album

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Really?

Yeah, I had too. Pittsburgh has had injury problems all season, I think today it finally catches up to them. We have nobodies on our O-Line, they're gonna get destroyed.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Singer/Actress
she's in Eragon that's all i know

Gotcha.

[IcedOpethBlind]

this will be the longest day ever for brad johnson

[IcedOpethBlind]

and the punter makes the tackle for dallas on the return llllllloooooooool

[Killadelphia]

oof, Eagles D looks like shit already.

[preppyak]

Yeah, I had too. Pittsburgh has had injury problems all season, I think today it finally catches up to them. We have nobodies on our O-Line, they're gonna get destroyed.
Yeah...I think the LB's and D-line for New York are gonna earn themselves contract extensions today with all the sacks they can get. The hope the Steelers have is that they can contain the Giants offense, and maybe, just maybe, a few lucky plays win it for em

[IcedOpethBlind]

great stop Dallas D

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Yeah...I think the LB's and D-line for New York are gonna earn themselves contract extensions today with all the sacks they can get. The hope the Steelers have is that they can contain the Giants offense, and maybe, just maybe, a few lucky plays win it for em

Well Santonio Holmes is out, which isn't gonna help. The Steelers never have utilized their TEs enough, so I don't see Heath Miller getting those touches. (though he should) I hear Plaxico is gonna have to sit out another though, not sure if that's true.

[KidRobot]

Yeah, I had too. Pittsburgh has had injury problems all season, I think today it finally catches up to them. We have nobodies on our O-Line, they're gonna get destroyed.

Whichever team gets more pressure wins.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

It's nice that I have two early games this week, sometimes I get screwed and only get one.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Whichever team gets more pressure wins.

That's gonna be the case for sure and I believe it's gonna be the Giants. I hope to prove myself wrong today.

Giants 20
Steelers 13

[preppyak]

Well Santonio Holmes is out, which isn't gonna help. The Steelers never have utilized their TEs enough, so I don't see Heath Miller getting those touches. (though he should) I hear Plaxico is gonna have to sit out another though, not sure if that's true.
He isn't starting and is basically being benched unless the Giants are losing/need him. They almost suspended him again.

[KidRobot]

Bucs already up 3

[c_rob2700]

my Stattracker isn't working

[GoWaitInTheCar]

He isn't starting and is basically being benched unless the Giants are losing/need him. They almost suspended him again.

Is this another altercation he is involved in or does it relate to the past incident?

[KidRobot]

That's gonna be the case for sure and I believe it's gonna be the Giants. I hope to prove myself wrong today.

Giants 20
Steelers 13

I think it's either going to be a blowout for the Steelers i.e. Browns style or a real close Giants win.

[IcedOpethBlind]

It's nice that I have two early games this week, sometimes I get screwed and only get one.

the last two weeks in houston we've only gotten 2 total games instead of the usual 3 because of the way the dallas/houston schedules are set up...sucks.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I still see the Cowboys winning, they'll fold I'm sure, but not just yet.

[KidRobot]

Is this another altercation he is involved in or does it relate to the past incident?

He skipped something else. They seem to play better without him anyway.

[c_rob2700]

I havn't seen a Rams game on TV in 3 years

[IcedOpethBlind]

this dallas offense is just pathetic right now

[KidRobot]

I'm opting to watch bowling then rather watch Jets-Chiefs.

[c_rob2700]

Romo

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Maybe I'll speaking merely out of an opinion, but I don't see much in going to watch the Chargers and Saints if I live in London. If I had no connection to either team, especially if they are from over seas, I wouldn't watch or go for that matter.

[KidRobot]

And for them to see two 3-4 teams coming in I bet that makes it even less appealing for them.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I havn't seen a Rams game on TV in 3 years

For whatever reason, FOX throws on 3 or 4 a year here.

[c_rob2700]

Maybe I'll speaking merely out of an opinion, but I don't see much in going to watch the Chargers and Saints if I live in London. If I had no connection to either team, especially if they are from over seas, I wouldn't watch or go for that matter.
Because they don't get to see Football live but once a year

[c_rob2700]

For whatever reason, FOX throws on 3 or 4 a year here.
We get all the Colts & Bears game, it sucks i have to watch them online

[IcedOpethBlind]

oh joey galloway is back

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I didn't realize the Bucs were 5-2..

[KidRobot]

I get all the Giants and Jets games plus Sunday and Monday night football. Its really terrible.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I was under the assumption everyone gets Sunday and Monday night games.

[IcedOpethBlind]

I didn't realize the Bucs were 5-2..

boring team, but they win...usual bucs football.

[loveisdead]

Glad to see the Jets score on their opening drive. Last week was a disaster I thought they wouldn't bounce back from.

[pand75]

Go Bills, Bucs and Chargers. I've got money on you

[KidRobot]

I was under the assumption everyone gets Sunday and Monday night games.

Well yeah, I'm just saying.

[c_rob2700]

I only get to see 5 or 6 games a week,

[KidRobot]

I get 4 usually. 5 at most.

[preppyak]

Troy Smith running the Wildcat for the Ravens

[IcedOpethBlind]

well atleast the defense has showed up

[IcedOpethBlind]

marshawn lynch must be hurt

[KidRobot]

Baltimore got a safety?

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Yeah, 4 or 5 games a week here.

[c_rob2700]

Baltimore got a safety?
They got one or caused one?

[Scott Weber]

LT with a nice run early.

[KidRobot]

They got one or caused one?


Caused.

[preppyak]

Baltimore got a safety?
Yep...and the way this game is going, they will win the game 2-0

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Here's a Question :

Whatever happened to Adrian Peterson?. Not THEE AP. I'm talking about the gentleman who played for the Bears last year?

[c_rob2700]

He's stil a return man

[IcedOpethBlind]

Here's a Question :

Whatever happened to Adrian Peterson?. Not THEE AP. I'm talking about the gentleman who played for the Bears last year?

i assume hes either 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart....forte hardly loses a carry though so kevin jones, wolfe, peterson dont see the rock much.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

He's stil a return man

For the Bears?

[KidRobot]

Dallas offense is just pathetic.

[Scott Weber]

Maybe I'll speaking merely out of an opinion, but I don't see much in going to watch the Chargers and Saints if I live in London. If I had no connection to either team, especially if they are from over seas, I wouldn't watch or go for that matter.
That's dumb. I would definitely go see Chelsea/Man United here without question.

[IcedOpethBlind]

3rd consecutive time, 3 and out....come the fuck on.

[c_rob2700]

If they would bring Euro league soccer (or international) i would see that in a second

[KidRobot]

I saw AC Milan/Juventus a couple years ago at Giants Stadium.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

:shrug:

[Scott Weber]

Touchdown Green-Ellis.

[Killadelphia]

why are officials so fucking pathetic anymore?

[loveisdead]

Jets D looks good.

[c_rob2700]

Fuck, Pats TD

[pand75]

It's KC. It's hard not to look good

[Scott Weber]

why are officials so fucking pathetic anymore?
what the fuck is up with philly people and their fucked up grammar? that makes no sense.

[preppyak]

That's dumb. I would definitely go see Chelsea/Man United here without question.
Except Chelsea/Man-U are two premier teams....would you go see Middlesborough v Everton? Cause that is the equivalent you are looking at with those 3-4 teams...Man-U/Chelsea are your Titans at 6-0...the ones I mentioned are the 3-4 caliber teams

[MyWorldEntire]

Here's a Question :

Whatever happened to Adrian Peterson?. Not THEE AP. I'm talking about the gentleman who played for the Bears last year?

Forte has been such a great all-around back that there has been no need to take him out. On the rare occasions when he needs a breather, Kevin Jones goes in. Peterson plays on the special teams unit, does a pretty good job there.

[Scott Weber]

Anyone know what is up with Marques Colston? He is not in the game or any sets.

[Scott Weber]

Except Chelsea/Man-U are two premier teams....would you go see Middlesborough v Everton? Cause that is the equivalent you are looking at with those 3-4 teams...Man-U/Chelsea are your Titans at 6-0...the ones I mentioned are the 3-4 caliber teams
Without question, I went and saw Preston play last year. :shrug:

[KidRobot]

Tampa is threatening.

[IcedOpethBlind]

Anyone know what is up with Marques Colston? He is not in the game or any sets.

fuck, not again.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Fasano TD, finally getting me some points.

[preppyak]

Without question, I went and saw Preston play last year. :shrug:
I would go see it to...but understand that the casual sports fan wouldn't...and we have the benefit (I guess?) of having active soccer leagues in the US with the MLS, etc...Europe doesn't have the NFL anymore...so aside from the spectacle of American football, I can't imagine much of a big draw for more

The average guy that goes to a Saints game doesn't know who Middlesborough is...much like I imagine a lot of people in Europe probably don't care much the Saints

[IcedOpethBlind]

detroit up on washington, jared kaufman does not approve

[Killadelphia]

what the fuck is up with philly people and their fucked up grammar? that makes no sense.

What's up with worrying about it so much? It's just quick slang. I'm not writing an essay on the referees terrible mistakes.

It's just our dialect for "nowadays" Get over it, seriously.

[loveisdead]

Fuck, Favre may be hurt.

[MyWorldEntire]

Favre INT

[c_rob2700]

It says Colston is active, but they're not playing him
maybe disciplinary reasons.
i don't know

[Scott Weber]

I would go see it to...but understand that the casual sports fan wouldn't...and we have the benefit (I guess?) of having active soccer leagues in the US with the MLS, etc...Europe doesn't have the NFL anymore...so aside from the spectacle of American football, I can't imagine much of a big draw for more

The average guy that goes to a Saints game doesn't know who Middlesborough is...much like I imagine a lot of people in Europe probably don't care much the Saints
Yeah, I couldn't disagree with you more. They have a chance to see NFL football, with some of the biggest stars in the game in it - why wouldn't they go? Records are kind of irrelevant - the Saints and Chargers are big name, big draw teams. For a country that never has a chance to see live NFL football, or american football at all being played at a high level, this is the chance of a lifetime.

[Scott Weber]

What's up with worrying about it so much? It's just quick slang. I'm not writing an essay on the referees terrible mistakes.

It's just our dialect for "nowadays" Get over it, seriously.
get over it? it's the first time i've said anything. you made no sense. stop being such a bitch.

[KidRobot]

Yeah, I couldn't disagree with you more. They have a chance to see NFL football, with some of the biggest stars in the game in it - why wouldn't they go? Records are kind of irrelevant - the Saints and Chargers are big name, big draw teams. For a country that never has a chance to see live NFL football, or american football at all being played at a high level, this is the chance of a lifetime.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-455301/Dolphins-Giants-sold-Wembley-10-times-over.html

Even the Giants-Dolphins had a huge appeal.

[c_rob2700]

and the NFL is really trying to expand their base in the UK, eventually they are going to start having multiple games over there with better teams

[IcedOpethBlind]

put Brooks Boll in

[KidRobot]

Good catch Bowe.

[pand75]

Avery with a long TD

[crit]

Deltha O'Neal sucks and he's hurt so now Mike Richardson (who was just promoted from the practice squad) is covering Donnie Avery who just burned him for a 69 yard touchdown. Nevermind, it was Hobbs that got beat on the play.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Colston just caught a ball.

[c_rob2700]

my cost count just went down 2?
wtf

[IcedOpethBlind]

wow donnie avery is breaking out again

[loveisdead]

Fuck this.

[KidRobot]

Touchdown Chiefs

[Killadelphia]

get over it? it's the first time i've said anything. you made no sense. stop being such a bitch.

To me, but you and other have mentioned things. It's just a different dialect. Instead of commenting on the refs awful "leading with a helmet" call, you just chose to attack people from Philly. You're constantly voicing your opinion on people from Philadelphia.

Either way, it's not something worth arguing about. Sorry for extending it even further.

[FondestMemory]

how can you bitch about the matchup london got? they wanted a game that could potentially be high scoring between two teams.

if you go back to last offseason, saints/chargers is a great matchup. full of stars like brees, lt, gates, merriman, bush. two great teams. two high powered offenses.

it's not like they can tell the future and know that bush and merriman would be out and that both teams would be underachieving.

and to be honest, it could be the damn lions and chiefs and the shit would sell out.

[Killadelphia]

McNabb continues to be an epic fail. I guess he felt bad that Culpepper is gone from the league, so he's doing his best impression.

[KidRobot]

They shouldn't be having the game in London in the middle of the season anyway. It's unfair for the Saints fans and both teams.

[c_rob2700]

Rams TD

[Killadelphia]

how can you bitch about the matchup london got? they wanted a game that could potentially be high scoring between two teams.

if you go back to last offseason, saints/chargers is a great matchup. full of stars like brees, lt, gates, merriman, bush. two great teams. two high powered offenses.

it's not like they can tell the future and know that bush and merriman would be out and that both teams would be underachieving.

and to be honest, it could be the damn lions and chiefs and the shit would sell out.

Exactly.

[preppyak]

Yeah, I couldn't disagree with you more. They have a chance to see NFL football, with some of the biggest stars in the game in it - why wouldn't they go? Records are kind of irrelevant - the Saints and Chargers are big name, big draw teams. For a country that never has a chance to see live NFL football, or american football at all being played at a high level, this is the chance of a lifetime.
Type in ESPN Europe into any google search and find a mention of the NFL. Look at the BBC site...its in "other sports" with darts.

I find it hard to believe that there is a vested European interest in the NFL, since the marquee games are played at 3am there and they have exactly 0 versions of the game left. NFL Europe failed for a reason. The big point of contention for having the game there is to "grow the game"...but we already did that, it failed, its not more important that soccer or basketball or, quite frankly, darts.

So, yeah, people will go if they are close to Wembley, but nobody is traveling from Germany to see the game...people aren't scalping tickets for 10x value like its the Super Bowl. Its a flash in the pan that steals a home game from the Saints and hurts two teams that can't really afford a bad week.

Stupid idea in my mind, and what it amounts to in that market is what? A sell-out, Saints would have done that anway...and people in Europe still have TV's if they want to watch it

[Scott Weber]

To me, but you and other have mentioned things. It's just a different dialect. Instead of commenting on the refs awful "leading with a helmet" call, you just chose to attack people from Philly. You're constantly voicing your opinion on people from Philadelphia.

Either way, it's not something worth arguing about. Sorry for extending it even further.
what the fuck? I'm not watching the game, I don't even get it here, sorry for not commenting on a hit I couldn't see. Maybe if the vast majority of people from Philly who post here weren't idiots, I wouldn't say things about the city. you are such a moron.

[c_rob2700]

They shouldn't be having the game in London in the middle of the season anyway. It's unfair for the Saints fans and both teams.
Was it the NFL or the NBA that said they eventually want to create a Euro division?

[KidRobot]

Type in ESPN Europe into any google search and find a mention of the NFL. Look at the BBC site...its in "other sports" with darts.

I find it hard to believe that there is a vested European interest in the NFL, since the marquee games are played at 3am there and they have exactly 0 versions of the game left. NFL Europe failed for a reason. The big point of contention for having the game there is to "grow the game"...but we already did that, it failed, its not more important that soccer or basketball or, quite frankly, darts.

So, yeah, people will go if they are close to Wembley, but nobody is traveling from Germany to see the game...people aren't scalping tickets for 10x value like its the Super Bowl. Its a flash in the pan that steals a home game from the Saints and hurts two teams that can't really afford a bad week.

Stupid idea in my mind, and what it amounts to in that market is what? A sell-out, Saints would have done that anway...and people in Europe still have TV's if they want to watch it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-455301/Dolphins-Giants-sold-Wembley-10-times-over.html

Even the Giants-Dolphins had a huge appeal.

Millions of ticket requests. They're even thinking about a London team.

[FondestMemory]

nfl had a euro division. it was a developmental league. they just folded it a few seasons ago.

[KidRobot]

nfl had a euro division. it was a developmental league. they just folded it a few seasons ago.

I know.

[c_rob2700]

Type in ESPN Europe into any google search and find a mention of the NFL. Look at the BBC site...its in "other sports" with darts.

I find it hard to believe that there is a vested European interest in the NFL, since the marquee games are played at 3am there and they have exactly 0 versions of the game left. NFL Europe failed for a reason. The big point of contention for having the game there is to "grow the game"...but we already did that, it failed, its not more important that soccer or basketball or, quite frankly, darts.

So, yeah, people will go if they are close to Wembley, but nobody is traveling from Germany to see the game...people aren't scalping tickets for 10x value like its the Super Bowl. Its a flash in the pan that steals a home game from the Saints and hurts two teams that can't really afford a bad week.

Stupid idea in my mind, and what it amounts to in that market is what? A sell-out, Saints would have done that anway...and people in Europe still have TV's if they want to watch it
again, they couldn't tell what the records for San Diago and Nawlins would be before the season, no one knew that this would be that important

[preppyak]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-455301/Dolphins-Giants-sold-Wembley-10-times-over.html

Even the Giants-Dolphins had a huge appeal.
and the NFL is really trying to expand their base in the UK, eventually they are going to start having multiple games over there with better teams
They tried that...it was called NFL Europe, it folded like the XFL

They shouldn't be having the game in London in the middle of the season anyway. It's unfair for the Saints fans and both teams.
If the NFL is genuinely going to put a franchise in Europe, than I see the point in having this game there...but the logistics of it are so stupid that I can't imagine them even considering it. Because you can't just add 1 Europe team, you'd need a division...and how do you add 4 or 5 teams to a 32 team league and keep the teams high quality? What franchises to you contract?

Stupid premise, decent game for Europe to get I guess, but if last year was any indication, the jet lag and terrible field conditions make it a mockery of what the sport actually is
Millions of ticket requests. They're even thinking about a London team.
What owner agrees to that expansion? Who wants a team to have an 8 hour plane ride home field advantage...and a significant time zone change. Shit, teams cry when they have to go east coast to west coast and play a 1pm game...imagine what they would do with a London team.

They talked about having the Super Bowl there...what a slap in the face that would be.

[c_rob2700]

Then i think it was Stern who said he wanted an NBA Euro division

[Killadelphia]

what the fuck? I'm not watching the game, I don't even get it here, sorry for not commenting on a hit I couldn't see. Maybe if the vast majority of people from Philly who post here weren't idiots, I wouldn't say things about the city. you are such a moron.

lol, keep the personal attacks coming, Scott.

[Scott Weber]

Type in ESPN Europe into any google search and find a mention of the NFL. Look at the BBC site...its in "other sports" with darts.

I find it hard to believe that there is a vested European interest in the NFL, since the marquee games are played at 3am there and they have exactly 0 versions of the game left. NFL Europe failed for a reason. The big point of contention for having the game there is to "grow the game"...but we already did that, it failed, its not more important that soccer or basketball or, quite frankly, darts.

So, yeah, people will go if they are close to Wembley, but nobody is traveling from Germany to see the game...people aren't scalping tickets for 10x value like its the Super Bowl. Its a flash in the pan that steals a home game from the Saints and hurts two teams that can't really afford a bad week.

Stupid idea in my mind, and what it amounts to in that market is what? A sell-out, Saints would have done that anway...and people in Europe still have TV's if they want to watch it
wrong.

[IcedOpethBlind]

dallas offense heating up

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Another question I wanna throw out there :

This time, next year what is Brett Favre going to be doing if the Jets are not a playoff team this year?

[c_rob2700]

They tried that...it was called NFL Europe, it folded like the XFL


it was a developmental league though, and please don't mention the XFL

[KidRobot]

They tried that...it was called NFL Europe, it folded like the XFL


If the NFL is genuinely going to put a franchise in Europe, than I see the point in having this game there...but the logistics of it are so stupid that I can't imagine them even considering it. Because you can't just add 1 Europe team, you'd need a division...and how do you add 4 or 5 teams to a 32 team league and keep the teams high quality? What franchises to you contract?

Stupid premise, decent game for Europe to get I guess, but if last year was any indication, the jet lag and terrible field conditions make it a mockery of what the sport actually is

I agree, but the appeal is there for REAL NFL football over there. Not NFL Europe.

[Scott Weber]

lol, keep the personal attacks coming, Scott.
gladly. whine more about your city.

[pand75]

That was the easiest touchdown I've ever seen for Henderson

[pand75]

Hahaha mehlhaff with a PAT miss!

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Opps, missed extra point by the Saints kicker..

[c_rob2700]

the point is, the London game makes complete sense.

[FondestMemory]

Type in ESPN Europe into any google search and find a mention of the NFL. Look at the BBC site...its in "other sports" with darts.

I find it hard to believe that there is a vested European interest in the NFL, since the marquee games are played at 3am there and they have exactly 0 versions of the game left. NFL Europe failed for a reason. The big point of contention for having the game there is to "grow the game"...but we already did that, it failed, its not more important that soccer or basketball or, quite frankly, darts.

So, yeah, people will go if they are close to Wembley, but nobody is traveling from Germany to see the game...people aren't scalping tickets for 10x value like its the Super Bowl. Its a flash in the pan that steals a home game from the Saints and hurts two teams that can't really afford a bad week.

Stupid idea in my mind, and what it amounts to in that market is what? A sell-out, Saints would have done that anway...and people in Europe still have TV's if they want to watch it

there's no vested interest because they're not exposed to it. that's what the nfl is trying to do. they're trying to expose them to it to gain that interest.

nfl europe failed because it was minor league nfl. the level of play was pitiful. the game is attempting to go global. the only way to do that is to let them experience it first hand.

i just think you're way off base here. go back the last two seasons and look how fast tickets sold out once they were put on sale. it's an event. they're more than willing to eat it up.

it's a first step. and that's what it was intended to be.

[MyWorldEntire]

Is Marshawn Lynch out of the game?

[pand75]

Great Mcnabb is hurt

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Sproles fumble on the kickoff, Saints ball.

[Killadelphia]

gladly. whine more about your city.

Wait, I whined about it. Do you even read what you post anymore? You whined about the grammar of people from Philly first. You're whining about Philly fans being idiots. You're whining about Philadelphia. If you don't want people to get defensive, don't make attacks on it. It's that simple.

[MyWorldEntire]

Touchdown Kurt Warner to Anquan Boldin

[IcedOpethBlind]

Warner yes!

[preppyak]

wrong.
Good argument Scott, as usual
I agree, but the appeal is there for REAL NFL football over there. Not NFL Europe.
And I agree it wasn't the best caliber...but add a team to the NFL and overall quality goes down...and like said before, 0 chance they add just one team, its division, so 4-5 teams...you're talking a 5-10% talent drop.

Soccer is the sport there...NFL will be at best 2nd fiddle, and may remain 3rd in Europe generally behind basketball. I just don't see the money making sense when you add in travel, start-up franchises, and a track history of not supporting the sport over time

Sure everyone wants to see the ONE game there is...put Pele on a soccer team and everyone in the US came to watch...make them do it for an entire season and you get mediocre attendance and teams in the red.

[c_rob2700]

good thing McNabb is equaling the same amount of points as JaMarcus Russel

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Hmm, is it safe to say that everyone has the Saints / Chargers game?

[c_rob2700]

they're not starting an fn franchise their just playing a single game, getting their foot back in the door

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Bulger has 163 passing yards already.

[c_rob2700]

i got it, watching Cowboys game though, more Fantasy players

[Killadelphia]

good thing McNabb is equaling the same amount of points as JaMarcus Russel

Yeah, all of his throws have been sailing high today. He's also getting banged around and was just slow to get off the field.

[Scott Weber]

Wait, I whined about it. Do you even read what you post anymore? You whined about the grammar of people from Philly first. You're whining about Philly fans being idiots. You're whining about Philadelphia. If you don't want people to get defensive, don't make attacks on it. It's that simple.
no, i called you an idiot for lacking basic grammar skills. then you whined about me not talking about a game i can't see. then you whined about philly being targeted. good god.

[c_rob2700]

:-)

[crit]

Hmm, is it safe to say that everyone has the Saints / Chargers game?
No

[IcedOpethBlind]

Hmm, is it safe to say that everyone has the Saints / Chargers game?

dont have it

[Killadelphia]

Bulger has 163 passing yards already.

awesome, I had to pick him up in a league.

[MyWorldEntire]

The Chicago market has Chiefs/Jets. Not sure how that makes any sense....

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Haha, nice scrum.

[preppyak]

Hmm, is it safe to say that everyone has the Saints / Chargers game?
I've got the punter try-out that is the Ravens-Raiders game

[c_rob2700]

I had to pick up Russel right befor the game today, only avalible QB (we run a 2 QB league)
and i'm playing against McNabb so it works out

[Scott Weber]

Good argument Scott, as usual

What the fuck? Don't scapegoat me because EVERYONE here is disagreeing with you and providing the same reasoning I would. "As usual," seriously what the hell is that, I expect more from you than to stoop to Justin's level.

[Killadelphia]

no, i called you an idiot for lacking basic grammar skills. then you whined about me not talking about a game i can't see. then you whined about philly being targeted. good god.

I'm not going to even continue this anymore.

[Chris M.]

Hmm, is it safe to say that everyone has the Saints / Chargers game?

No ... that and Ravens-Raiders are the only games I don't get

[Scott Weber]

I'm not going to even continue this anymore.
good.

[preppyak]

What the fuck? Don't scapegoat me because EVERYONE here is disagreeing with you and providing the same reasoning I would. "As usual," seriously what the hell is that, I expect more from you than to stoop to Justin's level.
Everyone else gave me a reason...you gave me a word

And I'll back-pedal on the Chargers/Saints game not being cared about...cause I didn't realize they had those ticket requests...but I still maintain the premise is flawed

[Chris M.]

who the fuck is Antonio Pittman and why is he running all over the Pats defense on this drive

[IcedOpethBlind]

the dolphins continue to underutilize ronnie brown and let rickey williams continue to get carries and fumbele them away, christ

[FondestMemory]

he's a buckeye.

[Killadelphia]

What the fuck? Don't scapegoat me because EVERYONE here is disagreeing with you and providing the same reasoning I would. "As usual," seriously what the hell is that, I expect more from you than to stoop to Justin's level.

Wow, you're still attacking me with something I am not even involved in. You cannot make a post anymore without attacking someone. You're getting worse and worse. The day you realize "your level" will be amazing. You're too busy worrying about someone else that you forget the way you tend to act.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Make that the 4th Steeler jersey I've seen in the stands of the Chargers / Saints game.

[c_rob2700]

STL is making a long drive, playing good fotball

[IcedOpethBlind]

who the fuck is Antonio Pittman and why is he running all over the Pats defense on this drive

2007 draft pick of the New Orleans Saints, picked up by St. Louis last season as a backup to SJax

[Killadelphia]

TD Roddy White. Perfect throw by Matt Ryan.

[Scott Weber]

Everyone else gave me a reason...you gave me a word

And I'll back-pedal on the Chargers/Saints game not being cared about...cause I didn't realize they had those ticket requests...but I still maintain the premise is flawed
Sorry that I was watching football....jesus, dude.

[Chris M.]

he's a buckeye.

ah, yes, the name rings a bell now

[crit]

Roddy!! 55 yd touchdown

[c_rob2700]

Ryan is a going to be a great QB

[MyWorldEntire]

Matt Ryan 55 TD pass to Roddy White

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Admittedly, before last week I didn't know who Donnie Avery was. I am assuming he's a rookie this year?

[IcedOpethBlind]

christ, come on D

[c_rob2700]

fucking punt on the 40

[IcedOpethBlind]

Admittedly, before last week I didn't know who Donnie Avery was. I am assuming he's a rookie this year?

out of UofH baby

[c_rob2700]

Avery is the only young WR we got

[preppyak]

Admittedly, before last week I didn't know who Donnie Avery was. I am assuming he's a rookie this year?
Rookie out of Houston...drafted in the 2nd round

[IcedOpethBlind]

nice hit jenkins

[preppyak]

Avery is the only young WR we got
Bring back Isaac Bruce!

[Scott Weber]

40 yard LT rush

[GoWaitInTheCar]

out of UofH baby

Did you know him by chance?

[Chris M.]

shit...70 yard TD pass by Flacco to Demetrius Williams. 15-0 for Baltimore.

I am shocked that the Raiders are actually this bad

[GoWaitInTheCar]

LT FINALLY having a good day.

[MyWorldEntire]

Another Favre INT

[Killadelphia]

LT FINALLY having a good day.

yeah I need Rivers to step up.

[pand75]

Oh thank god, Lt is alive today

[preppyak]

god, figures I get the Ravens game, where 9-0 is a scoring fest...

make that 16-0, nicely done Flacco

Now Russell gets to avoid the safety again

[loveisdead]

Another Favre INT.

[IcedOpethBlind]

Did you know him by chance?

well i go to the occasional UofH game and watch them on TV but I didnt go there for college....

[c_rob2700]

Bring back Isaac Bruce!
too old

[Killadelphia]

McNabb is just completely off today and has blurred vision. Let him sit. He's been awful.

[Chris M.]

fuck LT. Rivers needs to throw it to Jackson

[c_rob2700]

random: i've never seen a black punter

[pand75]

What the hell is wrong with McNabb?

[c_rob2700]

Rams D, how the fuck do you let Cassel run on you

[Killadelphia]

wow, Greg Lewis just made a great play to down the ball @ the 1 yard line.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

random: i've never seen a black punter

Oh, no.

[Scott Weber]

random: i've never seen a black punter
You are young. Reggie Roby!

[Chris M.]

ah thank you for banning Justin. His negativity is just too much sometimes

[Scott Weber]

Lt!

[pand75]

LT Rec TD!!!

[preppyak]

I am shocked that the Raiders are actually this bad
The best part is that they way they respond to that TD is having their return man go out of bounds at the 2yd line on the kickoff, go 3 and out, and allow a return to midfield

Good thing they fired Kiffin!

[c_rob2700]

You are young. Reggie Roby!
http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Cards/005/541/01F.jpg

[deadstar]

No one in London gives a shit about American football. The only people who have a vested interest are the Americans who live/work over there. The major sports bar in London that showed football games was all Americans.

[IcedOpethBlind]

Colston & Shockey need to pick. it. up.

[Scott Weber]

ah thank you for banning Justin. His negativity is just too much sometimes
enough is enough. he's on his like 18th strike. he brings the entire forum down and nobody likes him.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Cards/005/541/01F.jpg

Great image.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Former NFL Punter Reggie Roby Dead at 43
James Joyner | Tuesday, February 22, 2005
Former All-Pro Punter Reggie Roby Dies (Reuters)

Former All-Pro punter Reggie Roby died Tuesday at the age of 43.

The Miami Dolphins, whom Roby spent 10 of his 16 NFL seasons, confirmed his passing on their Web site, but the cause of death is unknown.

Roby was reportedly found unconscious and without a pulse this morning by his wife in the couple’s Nashville home. He was immediately taken to the Saint Thomas Emergency Department where he was pronounced dead at 8:35 a.m. EST.

[preppyak]

No one in London gives a shit about American football. The only people who have a vested interest are the Americans who live/work over there. The major sports bar in London that showed football games was all Americans.
Haha, I made the same argument and got owned...I think the truth may lie in the middle, but I can't see any amount of NFL franchises being viable for a long period of time

[Chris M.]

The best part is that they way they respond to that TD is having their return man go out of bounds at the 2yd line on the kickoff, go 3 and out, and allow a return to midfield

Good thing they fired Kiffin!

With all the talent they have...there should be no way they are 2-4, soon to be 2-5

I understand they've had injury problems with McFadden and Fargas, but Russell has been abysmal

[IcedOpethBlind]

rickey williams with a 47 yard reception

[Chris M.]

Former NFL Punter Reggie Roby Dead at 43
James Joyner | Tuesday, February 22, 2005
Former All-Pro Punter Reggie Roby Dies (Reuters)

Former All-Pro punter Reggie Roby died Tuesday at the age of 43.

The Miami Dolphins, whom Roby spent 10 of his 16 NFL seasons, confirmed his passing on their Web site, but the cause of death is unknown.

Roby was reportedly found unconscious and without a pulse this morning by his wife in the couple’s Nashville home. He was immediately taken to the Saint Thomas Emergency Department where he was pronounced dead at 8:35 a.m. EST.

uhhh ... thanks for that.

[c_rob2700]

Glad Rams got out of that with just a FG scored on them

[MyWorldEntire]

Haha, I made the same argument and got owned...I think the truth may lie in the middle, but I can't see any amount of NFL franchises being viable for a long period of time

I can see why they would play a game once a year in London, but having a franchise there would be taking it too far.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Rodney Williams was black. He played for the Giants and Texans. I could be wrong, but I know for awhile he held the record for the longest punt on MNF.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Wow, hell of a catch by Lance Moore. I swear I heard nothing of him for years, before today.

[c_rob2700]

Rodney Williams was black. He played for the Giants and Texans. I could be wrong, but I know for awhile he held the record for the longest punt on MNF.
I just meant, i've never seen one

[loveisdead]

Leon Washington is fucking awesome.

[preppyak]

With all the talent they have...there should be no way they are 2-4, soon to be 2-5

I understand they've had injury problems with McFadden and Fargas, but Russell has been abysmal
Three plays by him:

1. Sack -13yds
2. Sack - Safety
3. Deep Ball - INT

Its really funny that John Elway defended him, said he was a good QB and that that team is ruining him, but, from what I've seen, he is a joke. Granted, its hard to do well when you have to scramble every pass, but that deep ball was terrible

[MyWorldEntire]

Leon Washington 60 yard TD run

[IcedOpethBlind]

Wow, hell of a catch by Lance Moore. I swear I heard nothing of him for years, before today.

he's been the Wes Welker of '08 pretty much all season.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

"Unnecessary Demonstration" for Moore's celebration or whatever you wanna call it. You can tell he doesn't usually get TDs, he had no idea what to do when he caught that ball.

[KidRobot]

You are young. Reggie Roby!

Rodney Williams.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/512339.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE9 C6D92B26F86065A284831B75F48EF45 (http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/528360.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE1 7219C77B6ADCBED284831B75F48EF45)

[GoWaitInTheCar]

I just meant, i've never seen one

I understand.

[Chris M.]

good job on making the PAT this time Mehlhaff

[deadstar]

Haha, I made the same argument and got owned...I think the truth may lie in the middle, but I can't see any amount of NFL franchises being viable for a long period of time
Its just way too hard to follow any American sports with the time difference.

[c_rob2700]

he's been the Wes Welker of '08 pretty much all season.
considering Wes Welker hasn't been Wes Welker

[c_rob2700]

Bulger sacked on the 1

[IcedOpethBlind]

considering Wes Welker hasn't been Wes Welker

Wes Welker '07 = Lance Moore '08

[IcedOpethBlind]

hey, roy williams with a grab

[preppyak]

hahahahaha...Did the Ravens just run the fucking option against the Raiders

WOW, a legit, college style option run...not the shotgun QB read. They were a step away from going Maryland Power-I

[Scott Weber]

considering Wes Welker hasn't been Wes Welker
except he has been almost identical with less TDs. on pace for 112 receptions, 1032 yards. barely less than last year.

[crit]

considering Wes Welker hasn't been Wes Welker
Yes he has, the only difference is that he isn't getting into the end zone this year like he was last year.

[IcedOpethBlind]

it'd be nice if my WR would show up for once, ugh

[c_rob2700]

except he has been almost identical with less TDs. on pace for 112 receptions, 1032 yards. barely less than last year.
i think i said this last week, my commishiner is fucked up, only TD's really count in my league.
so the way i view stats is different

[MyWorldEntire]

hahahahaha...Did the Ravens just run the fucking option against the Raiders

WOW, a legit, college style option run...not the shotgun QB read. They were a step away from going Maryland Power-I

wow, never thought I'd see that