Albums That Would Be So Much Better If They Were Longer/Shorter [Archive]

mattmatumbo

11/02/08, 09:03 AM

brand new- devil and god was way too long
hopesfall- no wings to speak of was too short
hot cross- fair trades and farewells/ a new set of lungs were both too short

KidRobot

11/02/08, 09:05 AM

brand new- devil and god was way too long
hopesfall- no wings to speak of was too short
hot cross- fair trades and farewells/ a new set of lungs were both too short

No.

Jumpoff

11/02/08, 09:08 AM

No.

Yes. Every song on the second half aside from Luca was skippable.

Against Me - Reinventing Axl Rose (should've had a lot more new songs since most of it was just reworkings of the EP songs.)

A Love American

11/02/08, 09:16 AM

Yes. Every song on the second half aside from Luca was skippable.

Against Me - Reinventing Axl Rose (should've had a lot more new songs since most of it was just reworkings of the EP songs.)
What do either of these claims have to do with the length of the album? You're saying that TDAG was a bad album/should have been an EP, and the Reinventing should have had different songs.

Jumpoff

11/02/08, 09:17 AM

What do either of these claims have to do with the length of the album? You're saying that TDAG was a bad album/should have been an EP, and the Reinventing should have had different songs.

Because.. by cutting those songs on the second half it would've been better.. the length ruined it.
And for Against Me!, by adding more songs there would have been more new songs and... it would've been longer?

KidRobot

11/02/08, 09:18 AM

Yes. Every song on the second half aside from Luca was skippable.

Against Me - Reinventing Axl Rose (should've had a lot more new songs since most of it was just reworkings of the EP songs.)

They're weaker but I wouldn't take anything off of that album. Without them the album has no diversity.

Jumpoff

11/02/08, 09:20 AM

They're weaker but I wouldn't take anything off of that album. Without them the album has no diversity.

I'll take less diversity with stronger songs over diversity with shitty songs..`

A Love American

11/02/08, 09:24 AM

Because.. by cutting those songs on the second half it would've been better.. the length ruined it.
And for Against Me!, by adding more songs there would have been more new songs and... it would've been longer?
Whether they're good songs or not or whether they're new or old is beside the point. You do not understand this thread. I could say that OK Computer has two crappy songs that should be taken off, and then it would be shorter. That isn't the length's fault.

A good example is Analphabetapolothology - Cap'N Jazz. That album doesn't have a bad song on it.. but its got 34 songs. It's too long. The length is the problem. With TDAG, you're saying that the songs are the problem, that the song's are bad. And then you're saying the length ruined it.

:hitself:

SickOfStars

11/02/08, 09:33 AM

95% of hip hop albums.

backed 100%

skits wear on me so hard, and even if they don't have them, there are sometimes in excess of 18 tracks that are usually 4-5 minutes in length. CUT THE FAT.

KidRobot

11/02/08, 09:52 AM

I'll take less diversity with stronger songs over diversity with shitty songs..`

You realize you take out the 2nd half and you have an EP right?

WakeUpBlondie

11/02/08, 09:56 AM

Set Your Goal's Mutiny goes by way too fast everylisten.

humanafterall

11/02/08, 10:01 AM

They're weaker but I wouldn't take anything off of that album. Without them the album has no diversity.
I still say that's Brand New's best album.

No album needs more than 12 songs to get the point across.
You're pretty much cutting out the entire hardcore punk genre.

Blake Solomon

11/02/08, 10:02 AM

backed 100%

skits wear on me so hard, and even if they don't have them, there are sometimes in excess of 18 tracks that are usually 4-5 minutes in length. CUT THE FAT.

it's the outros of songs that kill me. Just put a period on it already.

Nourez

11/02/08, 10:03 AM

Everything in Transit. This album could have kept going for hours and I wouldn't get bored of it. Also, both of Paramore's albums could have been a bit longer, but not by more than 15 or 20 minutes. I usually think that 45-60 minutes is good for an album.

voncorn

11/02/08, 10:06 AM

The skits in Reggie And The Full Effect's Greatest Hits 1984-1987 were incredibly unnecessary. They're probably all inside jokes with the band but none of them were lolworthy at all.

ProfessorForbes

11/02/08, 10:19 AM

In Defense Of The Genre could have been reduced to one disc, mainly by taking out most of the songs on the second disc.

I love the first disc but I think the second disc is more ballsy

secretsociety92

11/02/08, 10:28 AM

Metallica - Death Magnetic

hf57

11/02/08, 10:38 AM

william fitzsimmons new disc could have been longer. still a great listen but even the songs themselves are all just too short.

and definitely have to agree with IDOTG. so many bad songs that just took away from the good songs.

mynameiscarterr

11/02/08, 11:01 AM

I wish Saves The Day's "In Reverie" was longer.

x togepi x

11/02/08, 11:02 AM

A good example is Analphabetapolothology - Cap'N Jazz. That album doesn't have a bad song on it.. but its got 34 songs. It's too long. The length is the problem. With TDAG, you're saying that the songs are the problem, that the song's are bad. And then you're saying the length ruined it.

:hitself:

This isn't an album. it's a compilation of everything they released, basically, since it was all on vinyl and super hard to find. if they cut it down, people would be pissed off.

Who's Chris?

11/02/08, 11:02 AM

i wouldve liked the senses fail, from the depths ep to have been an lp

what_ever

11/02/08, 11:02 AM

Yes. Every song on the second half aside from Luca was skippable.

Welcome to Bangkok, Not The Sun, and Archers are all great songs.

Just because the strength of songs on the first half > songs on the second half does not make the second half "skippable" by any means.

A Love American

11/02/08, 11:04 AM

This isn't an album. it's a compilation of everything they released, basically, since it was all on vinyl and super hard to find. if they cut it down, people would be pissed off.
I know, I was just trying to think of an album (collection of songs, or in this case, anthology) that would be a good example.

x togepi x

11/02/08, 11:07 AM

I know, I was just trying to think of an album (collection of songs, or in this case, anthology) that would be a good example.

i don't think it's a good example though because it's not really supposed to be considered an album. i mean with an album you can make the choice to cut something out or not. They didn't really have the option here.

aoftbsten

11/02/08, 11:11 AM

95% of hip hop albums.

i agree, they should basically just release the singles

ThrownAwayKyle

11/02/08, 11:22 AM

Protest The Heros "Fortress" was too short.

A Love American

11/02/08, 11:35 AM

i don't think it's a good example though because it's not really supposed to be considered an album. i mean with an album you can make the choice to cut something out or not. They didn't really have the option here.
Good point

Renee

11/02/08, 11:46 AM

I wish Saves The Day's "In Reverie" was longer.
Don't Go Outside and Coconut should have been on the actual album, instead of B-sides.

micahistheballs

11/02/08, 12:41 PM

Radiohead - Hail to the Thief

Tracklisting should be.

1. 2+2=5
2. Sit Down Stand Up
3. Sail to the Moon
4. Backdrifts
5. We Suck Young Blood
6. The Gloaming
7. There There
8. Myxomatosis
9. Scatterbrain
10. Wolf At the Door

Also Engine should be on Aeroplane Over the Sea whether in place of Untitled/The Fool (The Fool could easilly be on the end of Two Headed Boy anyway) or as a new song I don't mind.
Agreed on Engine.

On Hail to the Thief I'd take off Backdrafts and the Gloaming and add Where I end and I Will.

mynameiscarterr

11/02/08, 02:06 PM

Don't Go Outside and Coconut should have been on the actual album, instead of B-sides.

Word.

myplanforescape

11/02/08, 02:36 PM

The only probably I have with Lost Wisdom by Mount Eerie is that its too short.

Nevuk

11/02/08, 02:57 PM

backed 100%

skits wear on me so hard, and even if they don't have them, there are sometimes in excess of 18 tracks that are usually 4-5 minutes in length. CUT THE FAT.
I can't listen to Raekwon because of this.
Public Enemy is pretty much the epitomy of the overly lengthy hip-hop album. It was fine on Nation of Millions and Fear, because they had the material to back the decision but their latest album would've been awesome instead of above average if there were only 8-9 songs on it instead of 17.

KyleMcr

11/02/08, 03:22 PM

Hail to the Thief wss too long; it would have been better if it was 10-11 songs.
Ideally, the track list would have been:
1. 2 + 2 = 5
2. Sit Down, Stand Up
3. Sail to the Moon
4. Go to Sleep
5. Where I End and You Begin
6. The Gloaming
7. There There
8. A Punch Up at a Wedding
9. Myxomatosis
10. A Wolf at the Door

KyleMcr

11/02/08, 03:25 PM

live.

11/02/08, 05:23 PM

Stadium Arcadium should have been a single album. In Defense of the Genre is fine the way it is.

humanafterall

11/02/08, 05:30 PM

Seriously? Backdrifts i can take or leave but the Gloaming is one of the best songs on the album.
This, however, I'll agree with you on.

LendMeYourBrain

11/02/08, 06:00 PM

if only godspeed was longer

Asadcow

11/02/08, 06:45 PM

Modest Mouse - Lonesome Crowded West
Modest Mouse - Long Drive

Both way too long

I agree with you about Long Drive, but ive always felt each song on LCW contributed something special. Just out of curiosity, which songs would you cut on that CD?

Jumpoff

11/02/08, 08:25 PM

Welcome to Bangkok, Not The Sun, and Archers are all great songs.

Just because the strength of songs on the first half > songs on the second half does not make the second half "skippable" by any means.

Those tracks were shit. Skippable was a nice way for me to say they were complete ass.

A Love American

11/02/08, 08:30 PM

I agree with you about Long Drive, but ive always felt each song on LCW contributed something special. Just out of curiosity, which songs would you cut on that CD?
I think I would cut Doin' The Cockroach... I'm not really sure what else. I like the songs, It just kind of gets old after around 45 minutes and then I turn on The Moon & Antarctica hah.