Terry Schiavo Meets Her Inevitable End...RIP

[Frank Giaramita]

Terry Schiavo has inevitably passed away (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20050331/ts_nm/rights_schiavo_dc).

[AshesAshes]

i have no idea what happened with all of this can someone explain all this stuff too me?

this succks for her famioly and everything :(

[FinchBulldog2]

That's too bad.

[1Roth4]

i have no idea what happened with all of this can someone explain all this stuff too me?

this succks for her famioly and everything :(
sad.. she was put on a feeding tube, and the parents, and husband were at odds to what should happen to her. Husband wanted to let her go peacefully, while the parents wanted her to live. Their was a lack of clairity in her will... government go involved... yadda yadda yadda... very sad case though.. at least the suffering is over.. and this story.

[kevanu]

JOHNNY COCHRAN, NOW TERRI SCHIVO?? JEEZ.

Now people are saying Mitch Hedberg died... fucking april fools though.

[XGirlinAisle10]

This is absolutely the most digusting use of the law I have ever seen. Reguardless if the woman wanted to die or not they shouldn't have killed her in such an inhumane way. Pulling out her feeding tube so she could starve to death? It disgusts me. They could have at least give her a leathal injection of some sort so she could die peacefully.

[FatJordan]

There's nothing respectful about forcing a person in a vegetative state to live.

...but it's just as horrible to kill someone who has no control over their actions through starvation.

...it's also not worth millions of the public's dollars arguing this. Government involvement is ridiculous sometimes.

Two death posts on AP in one day. It's a sad day. :(

[muzik4lyf5000]

This is absolutely the most digusting use of the law I have ever seen. Reguardless if the woman wanted to die or not they shouldn't have killed her in such an inhumane way. Pulling out her feeding tube so she could starve to death? It disgusts me. They could have at least give her a leathal injection of some sort so she could die peacefully.
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[Frank Giaramita]

This is absolutely the most digusting use of the law I have ever seen. Reguardless if the woman wanted to die or not they shouldn't have killed her in such an inhumane way. Pulling out her feeding tube so she could starve to death? It disgusts me. They could have at least give her a leathal injection of some sort so she could die peacefully.

The part of her brain that feels wasn't functional anyway, so she couldn't feel starvation, hunger or even thirst. She died just as peacful as she would've if she bled to death, or if she had lethal injection, or if she was tortured... she had no physical feeling.

[Xylene]

About time. Flame away, but the people that wanted her to lay in bed another 15 years as a vegetable (including her jackass parents) are retarded.

This is absolutely the most digusting use of the law I have ever seen. Reguardless if the woman wanted to die or not they shouldn't have killed her in such an inhumane way. Pulling out her feeding tube so she could starve to death? It disgusts me. They could have at least give her a leathal injection of some sort so she could die peacefully.

And then people would have bitched that she was murdered. Either way, someone loses.

[rocksolidgurl]

For someone in her state, who isn't even aware of her surroundings or any pain, removal of a feeding tube and subsequent death due to lack of nutrition is actually a very peaceful way to die. Lethel injection isn't legal in a case like this, which is why they couldn't do that.

I really hope that this case can be put aside and that our national government won't continue to pursue cases such as this. Terry Schiavo is finally resting peacefully, instead of being trapped inside a body and brain that weren't functioning.

[alifetmeaway]

i really have no idea how to feel about this, ive thought about it all the time it was going on. And i think she was in pain while she was alive and maybe it was better that they let her go, but on the other hand, her family really wanted to take care of her and still have her in thier life. it should not have been up to her husband.

[osunfg]

anyone who watched south park last night understands how ridiculous this all is

[last light]

would someone honestly want to live as a vegtable? i cant imagine. i think the right choice was made, i think its fucked that her husband has more say then her parents, and that he didnt let them into the room when she died, but honestly i think the right choice was to let her die.

[WeDreamOfDays]

It's sad... but she's in a better place.

[cm5684]

yea southpark predicts the future....that show has become so smart...i dont care what anyone says. they made such a good point bout this case.

[Frank Giaramita]

Her parents should have the right to choose whether or not to let her leave the world that THEY BROUGHT HER INTO, not the husband.

[AnonomusVsCA]

would someone honestly want to live as a vegtable? i cant imagine. i think the right choice was made, i think its fucked that her husband has more say then her parents, and that he didnt let them into the room when she died, but honestly i think the right choice was to let her die.
im saying it right now, you all are my witnesses: if im like that, pull the plug please.

[hXc_pwnage]

Finally.

She needed to just die.

[hXc_pwnage]

Her parents should have the right to choose whether or not to let her leave the world that THEY BROUGHT HER INTO, not the husband.
By law, her husband has the decision.

If you want to change the law, go ahead.

[1amongthefence]

yeah, she's finally "free". i'd hate to be in that vegetated state.

[hXc_pwnage]

not only the fact that Terry had to starve to death, the fact that the parent's were not even allowed to see their own daugther when she died, because of Terry's husband! Wow what a great person he is, he can she her put not her parents! The oher things that I'm disturbed with is the new episode of South Park from last night. I really luv their humr and all making fun of political situations and stuff in the news, but why the hell would you make fun of the Terry Shiavo case!? Obviously last night the writers and creators of South Park were siding with Terry's husband, that they wanted her to die in peace and not to be kept alive in this condition! But just for the fact that they were making fun of a situation ove a decision of life and death is wrong! Honestly, they should have sayed away from that. If anyone watched that episode last night, than you know what I'm talking about, but if you didn't, wach it and you will see what I's alking about. Call it a premonition but last night in that episode, Kenny (playing Terry) died from a result from the feeding tube, and now today, it actually did happen. She died! Honestly, i wish people would not make entertain out of this tragedy, cause it is so sad. No one should ever have to go through the pain like she did! RIP Terry
Shut up.

[Frank Giaramita]

By law, her husband has the decision.

If you want to change the law, go ahead.
Yeah, I know, that's why I said what I said, I disagree with that law and I think it's disgusting.

[bayonetwork]

This is absolutely the most digusting use of the law I have ever seen. Reguardless if the woman wanted to die or not they shouldn't have killed her in such an inhumane way. Pulling out her feeding tube so she could starve to death? It disgusts me. They could have at least give her a leathal injection of some sort so she could die peacefully.
I couldn't agree with you more. I believe she had the right to die, but there are murderers, rapists, and down right sick individuals who get more humane treatment in prison and on death row. I'm not really sad about this other than the inhumanity that was displayed, because i truely believe she didn't want to be artificially kept alive.

[chrrydream]

you cant really say that it was a peaceful way to die when we don't know for sure how much pain she could actually feel. there was a story who was in a similar state as terri and they did surgery on her without anesthesia and when she came out of the vegetative state she said that she could feel every part of the surgery. so we can't say it was a "peaceful" way to die.

For someone in her state, who isn't even aware of her surroundings or any pain, removal of a feeding tube and subsequent death due to lack of nutrition is actually a very peaceful way to die. Lethel injection isn't legal in a case like this, which is why they couldn't do that.

I really hope that this case can be put aside and that our national government won't continue to pursue cases such as this. Terry Schiavo is finally resting peacefully, instead of being trapped inside a body and brain that weren't functioning.

[grimis16]

Looks like south park swayed another! Seriously though i think shes happy, because wherever she is it has to be better then seeing herself messed up on every channel. She was a good looking woman before, but i never saw that picture until yesterday, all they showed was the same one, her smiling in a bed 5 years ago. But hopefully this debate will end, there should not have even been a debate, people say we are playing god with taking the tube out, who the fuck do they think played god by bringing her back to life and putting the tube in for the first place...stupid i tell you...........RIP

[last light]

not only the fact that Terry had to starve to death, the fact that the parent's were not even allowed to see their own daugther when she died, because of Terry's husband! Wow what a great person he is, he can she her put not her parents! The oher things that I'm disturbed with is the new episode of South Park from last night. I really luv their humr and all making fun of political situations and stuff in the news, but why the hell would you make fun of the Terry Shiavo case!? Obviously last night the writers and creators of South Park were siding with Terry's husband, that they wanted her to die in peace and not to be kept alive in this condition! But just for the fact that they were making fun of a situation ove a decision of life and death is wrong! Honestly, they should have sayed away from that. If anyone watched that episode last night, than you know what I'm talking about, but if you didn't, wach it and you will see what I's alking about. Call it a premonition but last night in that episode, Kenny (playing Terry) died from a result from the feeding tube, and now today, it actually did happen. She died! Honestly, i wish people would not make entertain out of this tragedy, cause it is so sad. No one should ever have to go through the pain like she did! RIP Terry


pain? she couldnt feel anything. ya her parents should have been by her side when she died, thank god they couldnt make the decision to keep her alive, no person could possibly want to live like that. end of story.

[hXc_pwnage]

Yeah, I know, that's why I said what I said, I disagree with that law and I think it's disgusting.
I don't. Remember, marriage is the most sacred of unions.

you cant really say that it was a peaceful way to die when we don't know for sure how much pain she could actually feel. there was a story who was in a similar state as terri and they did surgery on her without anesthesia and when she came out of the vegetative state she said that she could feel every part of the surgery. so we can't say it was a "peaceful" way to die.
She.

Couldn't.

Feel.

Any.

Pain.

[druck]

They should have pulled the plug weeks ago, I honestly didn't see the point in letting her just sit there for a week without her brain functioning. It just seems like the parents were making it more painful for themselves by giving them false hope.

At least this won't be all over the news anymore.

[Frank Giaramita]

you cant really say that it was a peaceful way to die when we don't know for sure how much pain she could actually feel. there was a story who was in a similar state as terri and they did surgery on her without anesthesia and when she came out of the vegetative state she said that she could feel every part of the surgery. so we can't say it was a "peaceful" way to die.

It was a known scientific fact that the part of her brain that feels physical pain was 100% disabled and not functioning at all, there's really no room for opinion when it comes to that matter at all. You can't feel a damn thing if that part of your brain is DEAD. If you'd like to take up your argument with the hundreds of doctors who were involved with this, go right ahead, but I can guarentee you they'd give you solid solid evidence dismissing your argument and proving that this part of her brain was totally killed.

[chrrydream]

PLEASE tell me how you know this, are you terry schiavo?????

I don't. Remember, marriage is the most sacred of unions.


She.

Couldn't.

Feel.

Any.

Pain.

[last light]

PLEASE tell me how you know this, are you terry schiavo?????

MEDICAL FACTS. fuck if you watched any sort of news youd know that. shut up. she couldnt feel anything.

[druck]

PLEASE tell me how you know this, are you terry schiavo?????:juggle: Yeah, those doctors don't know anything.

[Bishop]

I don't understand why this case is such a big thing. If anything it should've just stayed a thing between that family, the government didn't need to get involved or the people outside. There are people who are taken off of life support every single day, where the hell are all those people praying for them.

But at least now that she's gone we can move onto matters that are actually the public's business and the government and general populous isn't sticking it's nose into other people's personal affairs.

[tsrshorty]

its an inhumane way to kill someone whether they can feel it or not. this whole thing disgusts me, because it should have never happened this way. her husband is a creep that gets off on killing his wife. he had no good intentions throughout this whole thing. he was just on a power trip and was proving to her parents once and for all that he decided what happened to her, not them.

[Jesse2]

And i think she was in pain while she was alive and maybe it was better that they let her go, but on the other hand, her family really wanted to take care of her and still have her in thier life. it should not have been up to her husband.

Well I'm sure you know more than the plethora of doctors who have stated she is incapable of feeling anything.

The bottom line is, it is up to the husband. In my opinion, this took 15 years too long. The state she was in was not improving and was never going to improve. I can't imagine the pain of losing your son/daughter, but in almost every conceivable way they lost her back in 1990.

RIP

[skaught]

JOHNNY COCHRAN, NOW TERRI SCHIVO?? JEEZ.

Now people are saying Mitch Hedberg died... fucking april fools though.
that better be a lie!

[last light]

its an inhumane way to kill someone whether they can feel it or not. this whole thing disgusts me, because it should have never happened this way. her husband is a creep that gets off on killing his wife. he had no good intentions throughout this whole thing. he was just on a power trip and was proving to her parents once and for all that he decided what happened to her, not them.

wow you are dumb. power trip cause he didnt want to see his wife suffer?
ya its bad he didnt let the family in when she died, its also his right. its not inhumane...she couldnt feel anything. nothing at all. how would you like her to die naturally? living life in a wheel chair and a tube? fucking most ignorant thing ive ever heard.

[druck]

its an inhumane way to kill someone whether they can feel it or not. this whole thing disgusts me, because it should have never happened this way. her husband is a creep that gets off on killing his wife. he had no good intentions throughout this whole thing. he was just on a power trip and was proving to her parents once and for all that he decided what happened to her, not them.bro, its not like they went out of their way and killed a little girl. they were trying to safe her, and it got to the point where nothing good would come out of it. i agree with bishop because things like this happen all the time and they're not all over the news.

it would be much more fucked up to make her live without a functioning brain for the rest of her life. jesus christ.

[chrrydream]

i agree, but the whole thing teaches you to make a living will to decide who you want to decide whether you live or die

its an inhumane way to kill someone whether they can feel it or not. this whole thing disgusts me, because it should have never happened this way. her husband is a creep that gets off on killing his wife. he had no good intentions throughout this whole thing. he was just on a power trip and was proving to her parents once and for all that he decided what happened to her, not them.

[skaught]

i saw this posted somewhere online:

"It's ironic that those fighting so hard to keep terry schiavo alive through the miracles of modern emdicine would be the first to limit the teaching of science in the classroom."

fucking absoluteOWNED

[Jared Kaufman]

This (http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.jhtml?player=realplayer&type=v&quality=high&reposid=/multimedia/tds/headlines/10042.html) whole thing has been a mess and the way the media has been covering it is disgusting. I, personally, wouldn't want to be alive in that state. However, it's not my place to say what should or should not be done with this particular person, but I think it's sick for politicians to use her to accomplish some sort of personal agenda (http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.jhtml?player=realplayer&type=v&quality=high&reposid=/multimedia/tds/headlines/10039.html).

[chrrydream]

oh yea he really loved his wife, he was living with another woman and had 2 kids with her. what if she did wake up?? she would see her husband moved on and would divorce him and her poor husband wouldn't get any of her malpractice money

wow you are dumb. power trip cause he didnt want to see his wife suffer?
ya its bad he didnt let the family in when she died, its also his right. its not inhumane...she couldnt feel anything. nothing at all. how would you like her to die naturally? living life in a wheel chair and a tube? fucking most ignorant thing ive ever heard.

[druck]

"It's ironic that those fighting so hard to keep terry schiavo alive through the miracles of modern emdicine would be the first to limit the teaching of science in the classroom." that's a great quote..i didn't think of it that way.

[last light]

oh yea he really loved his wife, he was living with another woman and had 2 kids with her. what if she did wake up?? she would see her husband moved on and would divorce him and her poor husband wouldn't get any of her malpractice money


that has nothing to do with being on a power trip and murdering his wife...i never said he was a good person, i dont give a shit if he was or not...all i said is he made the right choice.

[robdobi]

aw fuck, mitch herberg actually died!

"that's ridiculous!"

http://www.comedycentral.com/standup/central/detail.jhtml?p=/comedians/h/mitch_hedberg.xml

very funny man, RIP.

[Jesse2]

its an inhumane way to kill someone whether they can feel it or not. this whole thing disgusts me, because it should have never happened this way. her husband is a creep that gets off on killing his wife. he had no good intentions throughout this whole thing. he was just on a power trip and was proving to her parents once and for all that he decided what happened to her, not them.

are you on glue?? that's the stupidest post i have seen in a while.

i'm guessing you are too young to remember Dr. Kevorkian and the fucking stink people made about him. So let me get this straight... helping the sick and elderly pass away in peace is wrong? Allowing nature to take its course is wrong? But keeping a brain-dead, bed-ridden woman alive for 15 years is right??

[chrrydream]

oh ok, i see. that makes more sense then

that has nothing to do with being on a power trip and murdering his wife...i never said he was a good person, i dont give a shit if he was or not...all i said is he made the right choice.

[last light]

are you on glue?? that's the stupidest post i have seen in a while.

i'm guessing you are too young to remember Dr. Kevorkian and the fucking stink people made about him. So let me get this straight... helping the sick and elderly pass away in peace is wrong? Allowing nature to take its course is wrong? But keeping a brain-dead, bed-ridden woman alive for 15 years is right??


thank you. ABSOLUTEOWNED.

[noles05]

oh yea he really loved his wife, he was living with another woman and had 2 kids with her. what if she did wake up?? she would see her husband moved on and would divorce him and her poor husband wouldn't get any of her malpractice money
i was going to something about this as well.

[ShoeSh1ne]

Mitch Hedberg

Effing hilarious.

[Trainsaw]

she put herself there, she had a heart attack because of her eating disorder belima, so this teaches people: don't do stupid things

[Jared Kaufman]

are you on glue?? that's the stupidest post i have seen in a while.

i'm guessing you are too young to remember Dr. Kevorkian and the fucking stink people made about him. So let me get this straight... helping the sick and elderly pass away in peace is wrong? Allowing nature to take its course is wrong? But keeping a brain-dead, bed-ridden woman alive for 15 years is right??
Good point. Just because modern "medicine" and technology were capable of keeping her alive doesn't mean it's more ethical or moral to do so. In my personal opinion, death is just a place where people are asleep and concious of nothing. That seems more peaceful to me than being stuck to a bed where I'm practically already unconcious of everything surrounding me and incapable of movement where a tube is lodged in my throat "feeding" me. Also, if you believe one goes on to a better place when they die (not my personal belief) whether it be heaven or what have you, then what's so bad with letting her go to that place seeing as she'd be able to function fully once again?

[Xylene]

I guess there won't be any new posts at http://durrrrr.blogspot.com/

Edit: haha -- I guess this is the post that made me lose all my scene points. BTW, that isn't my blog.

Edit #2: And before all the idiots start bitching that I mentioned it, nowhere did I say it was funny or tasteful.

[Jared Kaufman]

I guess there won't be any new posts at http://durrrrr.blogspot.com/
That's not even funny and for someone to find it amusing or to even think of creating that has serious mental issues and needs to be evaluated by a professional immediately.

[albatrossxivy]

anyone see south park last night...it was all about this

[wakepunk]

I'm glad this is finally over. You all can now stop crying over something none of you would have cared about if the media hadn't turned it into the sickening circus that it was made out to be.

[Xylene]

That's not even funny and for someone to find it amusing or to even think of creating that has serious mental issues and needs to be evaluated by a professional immediately.

I didn't say it was funny, did I? Um.. let me think about that. No, I didn't.

[sinbad]

Regardless of what side people are arguing for, it's sad that in the past few weeks the story has taken off to the level it did. People got so worked up about the moral, legal and religious aspects of it that this girl's identity was just thrown away. At the center of this whole debate was this poor girls life and that took second place to whatever cause people were using to debate. It turned into God vs. Law, Legal vs. Moral, etc....

It's a touchy situation and every side has a legitimate point. Just a shame it got so out of hand.

[merv the perv]

That's not even funny and for someone to find it amusing or to even think of creating that has serious mental issues and needs to be evaluated by a professional immediately.


Yeah! IMMEDIATELY!

[Fullcollapse3k]

He wouldn't even let her family be in the room when she passed. I thought that was over the line.

[rocksolidgurl]

oh yea he really loved his wife, he was living with another woman and had 2 kids with her. what if she did wake up?? she would see her husband moved on and would divorce him and her poor husband wouldn't get any of her malpractice money

Would you not expect a man to move on after his wife died? Terry Schiavo, for all rights and purposes, died 15 years ago. Michael Schiavo didn't move on until at least 6 or 8 years after Terry entered the vegetative state. Can we blame him for that? No way. And where does it say that you can't still care for someone's well-being, even if you do love someone else?

[Jared Kaufman]

I didn't say it was funny, did I? Um.. let me think about that. No, I didn't.
I didn't say you said it was funny, did I? Um.. let me think about that. No, I didn't.

[Jo_Herself]

What's insane was that her condition was brought on by an eating disorder and they have been fighting to keep her feeding tube in...

[Frank Giaramita]

What's insane was that her condition was brought on by an eating disorder and they have been fighting to keep her feeding tube in...

Haha, not to make light of the matter, but I found that to be coincidentally ironic as well.

[Absolute Mest]

Her parents should have the right to choose whether or not to let her leave the world that THEY BROUGHT HER INTO, not the husband.
no one should ever have that right.

EDIT: but i guess in this case, the husband did the right thing, in my opinion. i dont think you would want to be a vegetable for the rest of your life., either. im surprised they let her even live like that for 15 years.

[hinkelmanf]

anyone who watched south park last night understands how ridiculous this all is

oh it is, but man what a great episode.

[chrrydream]

wow i cant even respond cuz this post is retarded AND i think its retarded cuz i think its weird that you said she "died" 15 yrs ago. im sure her parents would disagree with that.

Would you not expect a man to move on after his wife died? Terry Schiavo, for all rights and purposes, died 15 years ago. Michael Schiavo didn't move on until at least 6 or 8 years after Terry entered the vegetative state. Can we blame him for that? No way. And where does it say that you can't still care for someone's well-being, even if you do love someone else?

[scenestorm777]

Murder is murder. One positive thing about this case is that it will shed light on other situations like this worldwide. "Letting Her Die" would be something of natural causes, removing a feeding tube is pre-meditated and murder in my eyes.

[SuperJoe]

This is absolutely the most digusting use of the law I have ever seen. Reguardless if the woman wanted to die or not they shouldn't have killed her in such an inhumane way. Pulling out her feeding tube so she could starve to death? It disgusts me. They could have at least give her a leathal injection of some sort so she could die peacefully.

lethal injection is how you kill convicted criminals, not citizens. pulling out her feeding tube is NOT an inhumane to kill someone in her condition. they gave her plenty of things to sedate her so it would be painless.

aside from that, i feel everyone has their own right to choose whether to live or not. if i am ever in that position, i hope somebody does pull my feeding tube because i feel that that state of living is not really living. it is a very complex burden placed upon your loved ones. (i have been in a very similar position with a grandfather on life support.) however, i respect anyone's decision to choose to want to stay alive in a vegetated state. i feel it is up to the individual to choose and something that should be made clear with loved ones. regardless, there is not a single person on this board who knows enough facts about this to make a fair assessment on her, her wishes, or her family/husband.

and don't give me shit about saying we have a right to die. it's my belief and if you disagree, i hate you. and you're wrong.

[KarateExplosion]

Terry Schiavo has inevitably passed away (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20050331/ts_nm/rights_schiavo_dc).
finally.

[hXc_pwnage]

PLEASE tell me how you know this, are you terry schiavo?????
It's scientific fact.

[falloutdrea19]

honestly, this whole situation is just terrible. the fact that our government has gotten involved and has spent more than enough money on this case is absolutely ridiculous, especially when we have troops over in iraq still. it's awful that she had to suffer like this, but now she is in heaven with god now, and he is taking care of her. it's better for her to be up there than to just be lying in a bed suffering. the state that she was in was NOT living. i don't understand why her parents would want her to suffer like that? even if she couldn't feel anything, she was not living life. it's such a sad story, but she is in a better place now. i don't know why some people can't see that. it's all blurry, and it's a mess...all because she didn't have a living will. i still don't understand why the whole government has felt the need to get involved. ridiculous. as terrible as this sounds, at least all this drama with this whole thing will die down now (hopefully), because she passed away. although people are hurting and mourning for her right now, it is better that she's in heaven instead of here on earth in a vegetative state where she had no idea what was going on.

as far as the parents or the husband deciding whether or not she should have lived or died, i think it's the husband's. when a woman stands up and gets married, it's the father who GIVES AWAY HIS DAUGHTER to the husband. YES, they are her parents. YES, they brought her into this world, but the parents give the daughter away to the husband and expect the husband to provide for her, take care of her, etc...'til death do they part. the minute they are married is when the guardianship changes.

i just hope people can understand both sides of the case, but also realize that she is in a much better place now.

[Paul Tao]

A. She did not die of starvation, she died of dehydration, what's called "fluid deprivation"
B. Somebody pointed out the case about the vegetative-state woman who woke up and said it was the most painful thing ever...she was onlyin the misdiagnosed state of "vegetativeness" for 73 days. terri schiavo has been like this for FIFTEEN YEARS, people, and they know for a fact part of her brain is liquified.

[Jesse2]

Murder is murder. One positive thing about this case is that it will shed light on other situations like this worldwide. "Letting Her Die" would be something of natural causes, removing a feeding tube is pre-meditated and murder in my eyes.

are you fucking serious?

so removing the feeding tube is murder? but if they hadn't tried to save her in 1990 it wouldn't have been? holy hell there are some seriously uneducated douches posting in this thread. the feeding tube was the right thing to do, but once you reach the point of no return (which happened a loooooooooong time ago), well that's when the living will comes into play.

[wesgemm08]

I just find this whole thing to be a bunch of bullshit.. how they put news stories like the second biggest school shooting in america since columbine and an earthquake in the pacific that killed 2000 ppl and could have possibly started another tsnami on the backburner to this story. I mean come on, ppl make the decision to take loved ones off lifesupport everyday. This is just a story of another disfunctional family that the media pays way too much attention to. I feel sorry for the families lose and that this lady had to suffer thru such a terrible condition. But this should not be such a huge news story what-so-ever.

Also, I think its real sad that some rich conservative would offer the husband 10 million dollars to give up the legal guardianship of his wife... i mean come on, that same 10 million dollars could feed starving families for generations who if feed would have completely normal health.. but he'd rather spend that money on keeping someone who would have never recovered alive and on a hospital bed for 20 more years.

[hXc_pwnage]

wow i cant even respond cuz this post is retarded
You're retarded.

[chrrydream]

lol i think i love you

lethal injection is how you kill convicted criminals, not citizens. pulling out her feeding tube is NOT an inhumane to kill someone in her condition. they gave her plenty of things to sedate her so it would be painless.

aside from that, i feel everyone has their own right to choose whether to live or not. if i am ever in that position, i hope somebody does pull my feeding tube because i feel that that state of living is not really living. it is a very complex burden placed upon your loved ones. (i have been in a very similar position with a grandfather on life support.) however, i respect anyone's decision to choose to want to stay alive in a vegetated state. i feel it is up to the individual to choose and something that should be made clear with loved ones. regardless, there is not a single person on this board who knows enough facts about this to make a fair assessment on her, her wishes, or her family/husband.

and don't give me shit about saying we have a right to die. it's my belief and if you disagree, i hate you. and you're wrong.

[hXc_pwnage]

Murder is murder. One positive thing about this case is that it will shed light on other situations like this worldwide. "Letting Her Die" would be something of natural causes, removing a feeding tube is pre-meditated and murder in my eyes.
This was natural causes. If she were left in her house, this is how she would have died.

You people are stupid.

[Paul Tao]

This was natural causes. If she were left in her house, this is how she would have died.

You people are stupid.
hahahahahhahahah

[punkerx99]

Honestly, who cares? Mind your own business... this shouldn't have become such a wide-spread issue.

[Paul Tao]

http://forum.truthout.org/blog/images/posts/9/funnyIII032905.bmp

[rocksolidgurl]

This was natural causes. If she were left in her house, this is how she would have died.

You people are stupid.

Exactly. If left to her own devices, this is what would have happened to her. Life is not always the best choice, people.

[falloutdrea19]

oh yea he really loved his wife, he was living with another woman and had 2 kids with her. what if she did wake up?? she would see her husband moved on and would divorce him and her poor husband wouldn't get any of her malpractice money


she wasnt going to wake up. its not like she was just miraculously going to return to "normal" one day. i'm not justifying his actions by any means, but i'm just saying......

[Pooavenger]

Terry Schiavo has inevitably passed away (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20050331/ts_nm/rights_schiavo_dc).
I can't believe that they did that to her. Make someone suffer and say that they know she isn't. Our country is sick.

[Frank Giaramita]

no one should ever have that right.

EDIT: but i guess in this case, the husband did the right thing, in my opinion. i dont think you would want to be a vegetable for the rest of your life., either. im surprised they let her even live like that for 15 years.

My point was, if anyone is going to have that right, it should be the people who brought her into this world and nurtured her from the day she was born...her parents.

[MidniteVulture]

My point was, if anyone is going to have that right, it should be the people who brought her into this world and nurtured her from the day she was born...her parents.But her parents gave her away at the wedding to Michael, and if we're talking about the roles of husband and wife in a traditional marriage, then he is the one taking care of her and ultimately should have the last say. Obviously it would be better for both parties (husband and parents) to agree on the outcome, and who knows what his true motives were, but I do feel that it was right for the final decision to be in his hand.

I would also like to state that the government nor the media should've ever taken part in this event.

[falloutdrea19]

this is all fucking bullshit. and to all you people who think that this is murder, open your fucking eyes.

[nfgdragon]

This is absolutely the most digusting use of the law I have ever seen. Reguardless if the woman wanted to die or not they shouldn't have killed her in such an inhumane way. Pulling out her feeding tube so she could starve to death? It disgusts me. They could have at least give her a leathal injection of some sort so she could die peacefully.

SHE DID NOT STARVE TO DEATH.

She was dehydrated to death, and she lacked the basic brain functions to feel that she was doing so.

Sheesh, don't you kids learn anything? You can live much longer without food than you can without water.

[chrrydream]

i know, the whole thing just sucks for her and anyone else that is in her state, but at least we can say we learned something from this

she wasnt going to wake up. its not like she was just miraculously going to return to "normal" one day. i'm not justifying his actions by any means, but i'm just saying......

[ForeverInADay]

thats horrible....may she rest in peace.

"Oh, so shes not in a vegetative state?...so you think all she needs is some better lighting?"
John Stewart

[nfgdragon]

My point was, if anyone is going to have that right, it should be the people who brought her into this world and nurtured her from the day she was born...her parents.

The problem with that is that it violates the sanctity of marriage (which the GOP has apaprently stopped caring about now that homosexuals aren't involved). There is no legal precendent for that, thats why every single legal challenge by her parents was turned down.

[Frank Giaramita]

The problem with that is that it violates the sanctity of marriage (which the GOP has apaprently stopped caring about now that homosexuals aren't involved). There is no legal precendent for that, thats why every single legal challenge by her parents was turned down.

Yeah, i Understand that, and I disagree with it. Something needs to be changed and I feel if anyone has the right to choose whether to allow someone to live or die, it should be up to the parents.

[normitron]

In more pressing news.

49 days and counting until Episode 3.

[Adeniz19]

this was a really sad case but i dont think it deserved all the media attention it got.....

and for the people who were saying they were playing god by taking the feeding tube out... well if it wasnt for modern science she would of died 15 years ago so we were actually playing god by keeping her alive for so long

RIP

[last light]

I can't believe that they did that to her. Make someone suffer and say that they know she isn't. Our country is sick.

so leave.

[osunfg]

i gave my pet potatoe to my roomate and he hasnt watered it...i fear the worst :headshake

[Trainsaw]

In more pressing news.

49 days and counting until Episode 3.

no lie fuck terri schiavo i want DARTH!

[strummer85]

Can someone please tell me why they're doing an autopsy on her?! They're looking for cause of death? They took out her feeding tube! I have a few guesses about what killed her!

But I agree that she's better off now anyway. This was all just sad. Everyone needs to let it go, and for God's sake, don't do a wasteful autopsy!

[Paul Tao]

Can someone please tell me why they're doing an autopsy on her?! They're looking for cause of death? They took out her feeding tube! I have a few guesses about what killed her!

But I agree that she's better off now anyway. This was all just sad. Everyone needs to let it go, and for God's sake, don't do a wasteful autopsy!
they're doing it to make sure that her brain was as nonfunctioning as previously believed, stuff like that. just to make sure they were right.

[beforeaflame]

15 years being in that state.

i don't think i'd want to be kept alive like that for such a long time.

[RagingDemon]

Maybe she'll get a Golden PSP in heaven.

[showerbandit40]

If you really think about why this issue got such media coverage and attention by the conservatives, it all boils down to a broader agenda of pro-life. What is sad is that the conservatives tried to use this poor woman's scenario because they knew that if they kept her alive for pro-life reasons, it would be one step closer to outlawing abortion. That would eventually give them the upper-hand with pro-life voters and eventually bring more power to their party and re-elections.

One more thing. I think everyone should think about exactly how they would be in Ms. Schiavo's case. Now I am not completely certain, but I am pretty sure that she knew what was going on around her, regardless of whether she had feeling or not (I think that may be tested with the autopsy but I am not completely educated on this). If you laid in a bed for 15 years and could not move, had no chance to recover what you have lost from your condition, and only stared at the wall and that was about it, an overwhelming majority of people would choose be allowed to die. In my opinion, anyone who sits in the same place for 15 years will suffer extreme mental disorders from that, so she it was almost as if she was being tortured more by being kept alive. This is all opinion, but what are some more opinions/facts about this case?

[sidewalks]

SHE DID NOT STARVE TO DEATH.

She was dehydrated to death, and she lacked the basic brain functions to feel that she was doing so.

Sheesh, don't you kids learn anything? You can live much longer without food than you can without water.
yup... 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food

anyway, she was basically dead. although its because of her parents she had to die in a fucked up way. they could have just had it done quickly

[falloutdrea19]

If you really think about why this issue got such media coverage and attention by the conservatives, it all boils down to a broader agenda of pro-life. What is sad is that the conservatives tried to use this poor woman's scenario because they knew that if they kept her alive for pro-life reasons, it would be one step closer to outlawing abortion. That would eventually give them the upper-hand with pro-life voters and eventually bring more power to their party and re-elections.

One more thing. I think everyone should think about exactly how they would be in Ms. Schiavo's case. Now I am not completely certain, but I am pretty sure that she knew what was going on around her, regardless of whether she had feeling or not (I think that may be tested with the autopsy but I am not completely educated on this). If you laid in a bed for 15 years and could not move, had no chance to recover what you have lost from your condition, and only stared at the wall and that was about it, an overwhelming majority of people would choose be allowed to die. In my opinion, anyone who sits in the same place for 15 years will suffer extreme mental disorders from that, so she it was almost as if she was being tortured more by being kept alive. This is all opinion, but what are some more opinions/facts about this case?


i applaud you. and the republican party can kiss my ass. :-X

[beforeaflame]

I don't see why it was so hard for her parents.
I mean, they were used to her being in that state for 15 years.
You'd think they'd have prepared to let her die.

[Cal Smith]

If you really think about why this issue got such media coverage and attention by the conservatives, it all boils down to a broader agenda of pro-life. What is sad is that the conservatives tried to use this poor woman's scenario because they knew that if they kept her alive for pro-life reasons, it would be one step closer to outlawing abortion. That would eventually give them the upper-hand with pro-life voters and eventually bring more power to their party and re-elections.

One more thing. I think everyone should think about exactly how they would be in Ms. Schiavo's case. Now I am not completely certain, but I am pretty sure that she knew what was going on around her, regardless of whether she had feeling or not (I think that may be tested with the autopsy but I am not completely educated on this). If you laid in a bed for 15 years and could not move, had no chance to recover what you have lost from your condition, and only stared at the wall and that was about it, an overwhelming majority of people would choose be allowed to die. In my opinion, anyone who sits in the same place for 15 years will suffer extreme mental disorders from that, so she it was almost as if she was being tortured more by being kept alive. This is all opinion, but what are some more opinions/facts about this case?

if you looked at how the voting went down it was both a heavy mix of republicans and democrats who wanted a review of the case. It's easy to blame one but in this case it was both parties. The exact house vote was 203-to-58, you're more than willing to find how many rep., dem., and ind. there are in the house, but I can assure you that vote was not down political lines.

[scenestorm777]

If you really think about why this issue got such media coverage and attention by the conservatives, it all boils down to a broader agenda of pro-life. What is sad is that the conservatives tried to use this poor woman's scenario because they knew that if they kept her alive for pro-life reasons, it would be one step closer to outlawing abortion. That would eventually give them the upper-hand with pro-life voters and eventually bring more power to their party and re-elections.

One more thing. I think everyone should think about exactly how they would be in Ms. Schiavo's case. Now I am not completely certain, but I am pretty sure that she knew what was going on around her, regardless of whether she had feeling or not (I think that may be tested with the autopsy but I am not completely educated on this). If you laid in a bed for 15 years and could not move, had no chance to recover what you have lost from your condition, and only stared at the wall and that was about it, an overwhelming majority of people would choose be allowed to die. In my opinion, anyone who sits in the same place for 15 years will suffer extreme mental disorders from that, so she it was almost as if she was being tortured more by being kept alive. This is all opinion, but what are some more opinions/facts about this case?

I'm Pro-Life but if "some" people were using Terry as a pawn for their own political motivations, then that's obviously a problem. By the way, any Christians that were threatening the lives of Terry's husband contradicts the very faith they are propagating. Sadly, those are the Christians that stick out most in the eyes of everyone else. Anyone that causes harm physically to someone on the pro-choice side, or decides to bomb a clinic, should NEVER champion the cause of "Pro-Life". It wouldnt make sense would it? If anyone wants some info or insight, try this site: www.standtrue.com

[Xylene]

I find it so funny how people are getting negative scene points for having an opinion that isn't the popular opinion.

[Trainsaw]

The Popeizzle is about to die now.

[Cal Smith]

It was a known scientific fact that the part of her brain that feels physical pain was 100% disabled and not functioning at all, there's really no room for opinion when it comes to that matter at all. You can't feel a damn thing if that part of your brain is DEAD. If you'd like to take up your argument with the hundreds of doctors who were involved with this, go right ahead, but I can guarentee you they'd give you solid solid evidence dismissing your argument and proving that this part of her brain was totally killed.

I will say if I'm not mistaken that there have only been 6 to examine her. Two from her husband who said there was no hope, two from her parents who said there was hope, and i know of one court apointed one. The court appointed one came to the same conclusion as her husbands doctors.

My point is that all of this is stemming from one doctors opinion, and not hundreds. Other doctors opinions are all coming from this. They are basically saying, "Well if this court appointed doctor is correct then.............................."

[chrrydream]

ha, i was thinking the same thing

I find it so funny how people are getting negative scene points for having an opinion that isn't the popular opinion.

[PaperclipAnemia]

wow i cant even respond cuz this post is retarded

oopsy

[chrrydream]

i just didnt like how they said terri has been "dead" for 15yrs, it was just weird

[Jesse2]

I will say if I'm not mistaken that there have only been 6 to examine her. Two from her husband who said there was no hope, two from her parents who said there was hope, and i know of one court apointed one. The court appointed one came to the same conclusion as her husbands doctors.

My point is that all of this is stemming from one doctors opinion, and not hundreds. Other doctors opinions are all coming from this. They are basically saying, "Well if this court appointed doctor is correct then.............................."

Wasn't one of the doctors (on the side of the parents) that congressmen that couldn't deny it was impossible to get HIV from blood or sweat? I know he was speaking to congress in "his medical opinion"

[Cal Smith]

Wasn't one of the doctors (on the side of the parents) that congressmen that couldn't deny it was impossible to get HIV from blood or sweat? I know he was speaking to congress in "his medical opinion"

I doubt Frist (which who i think you're referring to) was one of the parents doctors because i seriously doubt he practices anymore considering he's a senator. Then again I'm not 100% sure cause i dont know who the parents doctors were.

[cheeruptheEmo]

they're doing it to make sure that her brain was as nonfunctioning as previously believed, stuff like that. just to make sure they were right.

too bad it will be a little late if they made a mistake...in my opinion they did the right thing...the poor women was gone no doubt about it.and also to the people saying her husband is a murderer and all that...think about it. if you were in that situation where your wife or husband became a vegtable and there was no return would you forever forget about anyone and never look at someone again or fall in love?...i doubt it. he loved her and didn't want her to suffer. he moved on and her parents should have too. her parents just couldn't let go of her. he has no reason to be called a murderer or a selfish man. her parents are the ones that have kept her like this for so long. if i was in that state i would not want people to even have to look at me for that matter let alone have to change me and clean me. that is what is gross.really her living there gave her no gain in anyway... she felt nothing...and the poor thing had to be like this for years...

sorry that got so long.

ha, i was thinking the same thing

its the way you state your opinion is what gets you the negative scene points. there is a way to state it and a way to shove it in someones face and be stupid about it...

also why do you keep writing all your posts above the quote...?

[Jesse2]

I doubt Frist (which who i think you're referring to) was one of the parents doctors because i seriously doubt he practices anymore considering he's a senator. Then again I'm not 100% sure cause i dont know who the parents doctors were.

Sorry, maybe I didn't say that clearly enough. I was saying 'wasn't he one of the doctors that people were claiming to be on the side of the parents?'. I know he wasn't one of the doctors the parents brought in, but he was reporting to the senate "in his medical opinion".

[LeftWideOpen]

thank you for allowing this story to continue to drag on. i've never seen a story so over analyzed by people who have no fucking clue whats going on. just because you read a news report doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. this should have been a private matter between Terri's parents and her husband, period. media and politics have no business getting involved, and neither does the american public.

[chrrydream]

its the way you state your opinion is what gets you the negative scene points. there is a way to state it and a way to shove it in someones face and be stupid about it...

also why do you keep writing all your posts above the quote...?

gotcha, i just got worked up. thats all.

and i didnt know how to do it, i dont dont post much

[cheeruptheEmo]

gotcha, i just got worked up. thats all.

and i didnt know how to do it, i dont dont post much

i understand, just helping you out there... :thumbsup:

[Nofxdrumer467]

This is absolutely the most digusting use of the law I have ever seen. Reguardless if the woman wanted to die or not they shouldn't have killed her in such an inhumane way. Pulling out her feeding tube so she could starve to death? It disgusts me. They could have at least give her a leathal injection of some sort so she could die peacefully.
So your suggesting they use active euthanasia, which is assisted suicide, instead of passive? By removing the feeding tube the husband allowed her to die naturally. Active Euthanasia is illegal in this country, meaning states can not give a lethal injection or anything that would directly end her life.

[hXc_pwnage]

i dont dont post much
Thank god.

[Cal Smith]

thank you for allowing this story to continue to drag on. i've never seen a story so over analyzed by people who have no fucking clue whats going on. just because you read a news report doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. this should have been a private matter between Terri's parents and her husband, period. media and politics have no business getting involved, and neither does the american public.

You're correct, but since they could obviously not find a common ground it got dragged into the courts and questions about Florida's laws had to be anaylized.

[mondeoman]

Thank God this is over.

[Punxatheart]

The Reason they had to starve her to death instead of something else is because of u bitchy republicans who can't handle the fact that not everything involves a god. 15 years ago she would of received a cocktail that would slow her heart rate and kill her quickly and painless. But wait....do u hear that......the radical right wing says that's inhuman and the only natural way to kill someone is to starve them "WHICH TAKES ABOUT 2 WEEKS"...but wait the evangelicals will always try to have there way...no they are saying starving someone is in human....the liberals have been saying that along with most people for years. And even though terri felt no pain while she was dying cause her CNS is dead "Central nervous system" it's still sad her husband had to watch her die along with her parents for 2 WEEKS....this is the fucked up world we live in.

if you looked at how the voting went down it was both a heavy mix of republicans and democrats who wanted a review of the case. It's easy to blame one but in this case it was both parties. The exact house vote was 203-to-58, you're more than willing to find how many rep., dem., and ind. there are in the house, but I can assure you that vote was not down political lines.
This guy is right...and the only people who disagree with this are pro-lifers...cause they can't face the facts.

[LeftWideOpen]

You're correct, but since they could obviously not find a common ground it got dragged into the courts and questions about Florida's laws had to be anaylized.

but where does the media, congress, and american public come into play? i can understand the courts getting involved in a dispute, but the rest of us really have no business in this all.

[Cal Smith]

but where does the media, congress, and american public come into play? i can understand the courts getting involved in a dispute, but the rest of us really have no business in this all.

media and the public, obviously because it's a dramatic story and can easily be related to anyone who faces the same situation

congress, obviously publicity might have been on some of their minds, and also maybe the fact they might feel just as passionate about it as others do. Seeing as how they have the ability to maybe make something happend some tried.

there's multiple reasons for all of them.

[LeftWideOpen]

media and the public, obviously because it's a dramatic story and can easily be related to anyone who faces the same situation

congress, obviously publicity might have been on some of their minds, and also maybe the fact they might feel just as passionate about it as others do. Seeing as how they have the ability to maybe make something happend some tried.

there's multiple reasons for all of them.

...and none of those respect the privacy of the matter. nor are they ethical. and i'm not trying to make accusations towards you when i state that, i'm simply taking it for what it's worth. for someone's life to be manipulated like it was is disgusting. i think everyone who had a hand in making this story as big of a deal as it is should be ashamed.

[Oh emanuel]

Her husband is an idiot,no one wants to see someone they love in a vegatative state, however, starving and dehdrating her is not the answer either, her parents should have have the final say. Her husband is just trying to be an asshole, by not letting her parents in the room, AND not letting them at the very least have a funeral for her, he instead chose creamation, her parents wanted a catholic funeral, geez, what an awful thing for everyone involed, mainly her and her parents!!

[schumach5]

This is pure evil. The entire country/world is now going to change. People don't understand the importance of what has just happened. Soon, mentally/physically disabled children are going to be at the mercy of their government from the second they take their first breath. This beautiful woman was murdered.

[Xylene]

Her parents are a bunch of douches if you ask me. They just OWNED every person that donated.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kgtv/20050329/lo_wkmg/2648050

What do you all think of that? Huh huh?!

[falloutdrea19]

Her parents are a bunch of douches if you ask me. They just OWNED every person that donated.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kgtv/20050329/lo_wkmg/2648050

What do you all think of that? Huh huh?!


very nice. that was really shitty for her parents to do that. :(

[Rufio21]

yay,.. about time.. I dont think I could live for what 12 days without food or water..

I found it kind of funny that she is in there because of bulemia.. Shes probably happy she hasnt eaten in however many days she was without the TUBE.


night kids

[tkidu]

Fucking asshole of a husband. All he wanted was the million dollar life insurance she had.

[Rufio21]

This is pure evil. The entire country/world is now going to change. People don't understand the importance of what has just happened. Soon, mentally/physically disabled children are going to be at the mercy of their government from the second they take their first breath. This beautiful woman was murdered.


I thought she was really ugly.. mentally disabled children can still move and have signs of life besides a heartbeat... moron

[wesgemm08]

This is pure evil. The entire country/world is now going to change. People don't understand the importance of what has just happened. Soon, mentally/physically disabled children are going to be at the mercy of their government from the second they take their first breath. This beautiful woman was murdered.


All of this murder talk is getting ridiculous... come on she was in the same state for 15 years.. i dont know the exact specifications of what makes you in a "Vegetative state" but i know she could not talk, could not feel joy nor pain, could not even think.. all she had was the basic reflexes that a 3 month old child has.. now tell me you would want to stay like that for the rest of your life.. I dont see why this is such a big debate among the government and religous america... but i guess this life or death case which american families make everyday is more important than the second biggest school shooting in america since columbine... :headshake

[punklet2101]

Rip.

[Cal Smith]

I thought she was really ugly.. mentally disabled children can still move and have signs of life besides a heartbeat... moron

Your attempts at humor are bad, and you are about as cool as a fanny pack.

[Xylene]

Your attempts at humor are bad, and you are about as cool as a fanny pack.
You obviously underestimate the coolness of fanny packs.

[billcom6]

just for reference, if i am ever like that, anyone here can pull any kind of tube keeping me alive


regardless of your stance on this story, i think we are all gonna be glad we dont have to hear about it 24/7 anymore

[Cal Smith]

You obviously underestimate the coolness of fanny packs.

:animateds Perhaps, but I have a neon green one I like to wear when I go out and I'm far from cool. Maybe I'll rethink things.

[cheeruptheEmo]

. All he wanted was the million dollar life insurance she had.

actually no...he couldnt get it even if he tried...but yes she did have all that money behind her.
why would he be trying to get her money. he mourned for a while (years not just a few months.and hes a guy they need loving)then moved on. he doesnt want that money...and hes not getting it. he probably wants this to end. but i do have to say it was wrong for him not to let the parents in the room.

[schumach5]

The Pope is now on a feeding tube. Shall we take his out too?

Good luck, big guy.

[falloutdrea19]

The Pope is now on a feeding tube. Shall we take his out too?

Good luck, big guy.


HE IS?!?!?!

[Bishop]

The Pope is now on a feeding tube. Shall we take his out too?

Good luck, big guy.

No he isn't.

He was given his last rites and was reported in "stable" condition.

[schumach5]

No he isn't.

He was given his last rites and was reported in "stable" condition.
"Pope John Paul II developed a high fever Thursday because of a urinary tract infection and was being treated with antibiotics at the Vatican, his spokesman said. The latest health setback for the 84-year-old pontiff came one day after he began receiving nutrition through a feeding tube."

"Hejmo said the pope’s latest health crisis came about because he had lost 42 pounds after his recent throat surgery, and because of a reaction to having a feeding tube inserted into his stomach on Wednesday." - msn.com

Perhaps it's time to shut up?

[blender]

it is a saddening situation, i hope that somehow, through some turn of events, that things improve

but we all know thats highly unlikely

[nrthstar]

I like to think about it this way... Had we not had the technology to give her a fucking feeding tube she would have killed herself due to that nasty eating disorder. They did not kill her, she died 15 years ago. She was not their daughter anymore, there would never have been a recovery. My dog has more brains then she did while in her persistent vegetative state.

Of course it's painful to loose your kid, but I think the whole ordeal was drawn on too long and only made things more painful in the end.

[Bishop]

"Pope John Paul II developed a high fever Thursday because of a urinary tract infection and was being treated with antibiotics at the Vatican, his spokesman said. The latest health setback for the 84-year-old pontiff came one day after he began receiving nutrition through a feeding tube."

"Hejmo said the pope’s latest health crisis came about because he had lost 42 pounds after his recent throat surgery, and because of a reaction to having a feeding tube inserted into his stomach on Wednesday." - msn.com

Perhaps it's time to shut up?

Perhaps it's time for me to shoot you in the fucking face.

[noviembre]

Ask 1000 people if they would want to live in Terri's situation, and about 999 would say they'd wanna die.

The Media sure beat this shit to death.

It's sad the family didnt have a say, but they shouldnt be allowed to have a say because they are stupid to even think she would want to live in that state.

[Destro's Secret]

did anyone see the new south park? it was pretty hilarious.

[xThursdayxPTWx]

would someone honestly want to live as a vegtable? i cant imagine. i think the right choice was made, i think its fucked that her husband has more say then her parents, and that he didnt let them into the room when she died, but honestly i think the right choice was to let her die.

But she died of dehydration and lack of nourishment, can you imagine the pain and suffering, there is no justification for that.

The part of her brain that feels wasn't functional anyway, so she couldn't feel starvation, hunger or even thirst. She died just as peacful as she would've if she bled to death, or if she had lethal injection, or if she was tortured... she had no physical feeling.

I didn't know all that, but still, its too bad she was too incapacitated for herself to have had a say....I guess we'll never know..

did anyone see the new south park? it was pretty hilarious.

What happened?

[Stereo Therapy]

south park put this whole thing perfectly in persepctive... when the last page of kennys will was lost, all they could see was "if i am ever to live as a vegetable, i..." (or something), a big argument began, cartman wanted him to die so he could get his psp, kyle and stan wanted him alive, a huge dispute followed, went to gov't, when they find the last page of his will it says, "don't want to be shown on national television"

so true

[xThursdayxPTWx]

south park put this whole thing perfectly in persepctive... when the last page of kennys will was lost, all they could see was "if i am ever to live as a vegetable, i..." (or something), a big argument began, cartman wanted him to die so he could get his psp, kyle and stan wanted him alive, a huge dispute followed, went to gov't, when they find the last page of his will it says, "don't want to be shown on national television"

so true

I admire that, I didn't expect Matt and Trey would make fun of such a sensitive subject harshly, I love that show because as offensive as it is, it has morals and is quite intelligent.