View Full Version : Wow, what a week for death
Tanooki Suit
04/01/05, 10:45 AM
The pope just died. No vatican confirmation as of yet.
Tanooki Suit
04/01/05, 10:46 AM
On April Fools Day, nonetheless.
slickwataris
04/01/05, 10:47 AM
I will miss the pope. I hope it's not true although it probably is.
i really dont see what the big deal is...
*waits for someone to give a speel on how the Pope was as powerful as God*
Paul Tao
04/01/05, 10:48 AM
good old drudge report, eh.
RIP
Hilikus
04/01/05, 10:49 AM
eh...
eh...
Was that mean?
atticus_4132
04/01/05, 10:49 AM
The pope just died. No vatican confirmation as of yet.
whats your source?
whats your source?
yahoo front page
Paul Tao
04/01/05, 10:52 AM
whats your source?
i saw it on drudge report
Tanooki Suit
04/01/05, 10:53 AM
yahoo front page
^ ^
i really dont see what the big deal is...
*waits for someone to give a speel on how the Pope was as powerful as God*
Well, it's certainly the most important death of the week.
Well, it's certainly the most important death of the week.
what makes them so much better than everyone else in the world?
Yeah, that was what I was saying. Jeez.
As far as political and social status goes, the pope dying is a big deal.
Alan Rupp
04/01/05, 11:02 AM
i really dont see what the big deal is...
*waits for someone to give a speel on how the Pope was as powerful as God*
The big deal is, he did a lot for the advancement of the Church and tried to spread world peace. He brought the Church's ties with the eastern world a lot closer, and reformed what most people saw as an "old-guard" church into a modern church. There is no doubt in my mind that over the past 30 years (I think that's how long he's been pope), he's had more effect on the world than any other human being, and almost all of it good.
Yeah, that was what I was saying. Jeez.
As far as political and social status goes, the pope dying is a big deal.
the Pope..... i dont even wanna get started. i just honestly think making a big deal out of the Pope is ridiculous.
The big deal is, he did a lot for the advancement of the Church and tried to spread world peace. He brought the Church's ties with the eastern world a lot closer, and reformed what most people saw as an "old-guard" church into a modern church. There is no doubt in my mind that over the past 30 years (I think that's how long he's been pope), he's had more effect on the world than any other human being, and almost all of it good.
i just have a thing against Catholics. and i am one.
YourLatestVicti
04/01/05, 11:03 AM
what makes them so much better than everyone else in the world?
He was the leader of the Catholic Church. Nothing against Micth or anyone else who died but the Pope was known world-wide, whether you're religous or not you knew who the Pope was.
Alan Rupp
04/01/05, 11:03 AM
the Pope..... i dont even wanna get started. i just honestly think making a big deal out of the Pope is ridiculous.
then you obviously have NO idea what the pope does
the Catholic church is a joke
slickwataris
04/01/05, 11:05 AM
The vatican has already denied that he is dead. Check your sources.
He was the leader of the Catholic Church. Nothing against Micth or anyone else who died but the Pope was known world-wide, whether you're religous or not you knew who the Pope was.
Im not getting into a fight here, but comparing a comic to the worlds most important religious person is madness.
selftitled85
04/01/05, 11:06 AM
they are going over everything he has done and he has been very good. he has been one of the most influential people like alan said in recent times. greg, you might not be religious, and im not religious but its a big deal. he was a good man and helped the world in many ways.
The big deal is, he did a lot for the advancement of the Church and tried to spread world peace. He brought the Church's ties with the eastern world a lot closer, and reformed what most people saw as an "old-guard" church into a modern church. There is no doubt in my mind that over the past 30 years (I think that's how long he's been pope), he's had more effect on the world than any other human being, and almost all of it good.
My sentiments exactly.
they are going over everything he has done and he has been very good. he has been one of the most influential people like alan said in recent times. greg, you might not be religious, and im not religious but its a big deal. he was a good man and helped the world in many ways.
oh but i am religious.... im Christian. i just think the Catholic church is a fucking joke.
YourLatestVicti
04/01/05, 11:07 AM
Im not getting into a fight here, but comparing a comic to the worlds most important religious person is madness.
That was sort of my point, someone asked what makes his death much more important than that of other people.
Alan Rupp
04/01/05, 11:07 AM
the Catholic church is a joke
explain or you're completely full of shit
selftitled85
04/01/05, 11:08 AM
oh but i am religious.... im Christian. i just think the Catholic church is a fucking joke.
and im a catholic.
FrancesTheMute
04/01/05, 11:09 AM
the Catholic church is a joke
i think i'm supposed to be catholic
slickwataris
04/01/05, 11:09 AM
He was a good man and there's nothing you can say to deny it. And he's not dead yet!
selftitled85
04/01/05, 11:10 AM
explain or you're completely full of shit
word.
That was sort of my point, someone asked what makes his death much more important than that of other people.
Yeah I know, it was more of a general statement.
explain or you're completely full of shit
fine....
i'll keep this really simple.
all the hardcore Catholics. the ones in charge of churchs ive been to. all believe that you must be catholic to go to heaven. yet no where. NO WHERE in the bible it says that. they make up stupid shit about Lent. they go more on what the Pope says than what the bible says. they just made up so much crap that has no biblical support. and when you dont follow it you are somehow going to hell, for not following the pope. that just makes no sense to me. plus they care more about if you go to church every week (which i do anyway) than they do about if you actualyl do indeed have a relationship with Christ. thinking if you go to church every week then you are a good Christian. which is is far off... its a joke. example... go stand in a garage and say "vrom vroom" are you a car cause you';re in there? hell no... its just idiotic
i think thats a joke. they have good intentions yes... but the way they do it is fucked
i think i'm supposed to be catholic
i was baptized Catholic. i def dont call myself one. but technically i am.
basically... i'm gonna go by what the bible says. not a bunch of ignorant old men.
FrancesTheMute
04/01/05, 11:17 AM
i'm not really sure what i am, but i'm pretty sure it's catholic.......
Thomas Sway
04/01/05, 11:19 AM
i'm not really sure what i am, but i'm pretty sure it's catholic.......
then I'm pretty sure you're nothing.
Alan Rupp
04/01/05, 11:19 AM
fine....
i'll keep this really simple.
all the hardcore Catholics. the ones in charge of churchs ive been to. all believe that you must be catholic to go to heaven. yet no where. NO WHERE in the bible it says that. they make up stupid shit about Lent. they go more on what the Pope says than what the bible says. they just made up so much crap that has no biblical support. and when you dont follow it you are somehow going to hell, for not following the pope. that just makes no sense to me. plus they care more about if you go to church every week (which i do anyway) than they do about if you actualyl do indeed have a relationship with Christ. thinking if you go to church every week then you are a good Christian. which is is far off... its a joke. example... go stand in a garage and say "vrom vroom" are you a car cause you';re in there? hell no... its just idiotic
i think thats a joke. they have good intentions yes... but the way they do it is fucked
i was baptized Catholic. i def dont call myself one. but technically i am.
Did they explicitely tell you that you must be Catholic to go to Heaven? Because the Church post-Vatican II states "salvation is not the sole property of the Church". You can thank the Pope (not this Pope obviously) for that. Now, I won't talk about your problems with the Church. Those are all personal and obviously they mean a lot to you, so I won't trivialize them. But, to claim that it doesn't matter that the Pope died, or that his death is less important than Mitch Hedberg's is absolutely ridiculous and a plea for attention.
This Pope has done more for world peace than anyone else in the last 30 years. Be fucking realistic.
Did they explicitely tell you that you must be Catholic to go to Heaven? Because the Church post-Vatican II states "salvation is not the sole property of the Church". You can thank the Pope (not this Pope obviously) for that. Now, I won't talk about your problems with the Church. Those are all personal and obviously they mean a lot to you, so I won't trivialize them. But, to claim that it doesn't matter that the Pope died, or that his death is less important than Mitch Hedberg's is absolutely ridiculous and a plea for attention.
This Pope has done more for world peace than anyone else in the last 30 years. Be fucking realistic.
when did i ever compare his death to a comedian ive never heard of untill the other day?
i respect his work. but that doesnt mean i have to respect the religion he represents.
Alan is my new favourite member.
Tanooki Suit
04/01/05, 11:25 AM
basically... i'm gonna go by what the bible says. not a bunch of ignorant old men.
Who's to say that your interpretation of the Bible is correct in the slightest? It can be used to justify nearly anything, there are definitely wrong ways to interpret it.
And no, I'm not a Xian.
Thomas Sway
04/01/05, 11:27 AM
Who's to say that your interpretation of the Bible is correct in the slightest? It can be used to justify nearly anything, there are definitely wrong ways to interpret it.
And no, I'm not a Xian.
I'm with you on this completely. The Bible has been interpreted in different ways by different people for many different uses for so fucking long. If you look at most of the huge-scale horrible shit in the past (racism, etc...) they were all fully supported by biblical interpretations of the time.
Pat Marquez
04/01/05, 11:28 AM
The big deal is, he did a lot for the advancement of the Church and tried to spread world peace. He brought the Church's ties with the eastern world a lot closer, and reformed what most people saw as an "old-guard" church into a modern church. There is no doubt in my mind that over the past 30 years (I think that's how long he's been pope), he's had more effect on the world than any other human being, and almost all of it good.
Exactly, the Pope is a great person.
Thomas Sway
04/01/05, 11:29 AM
Exactly, the Pope is a great person.
was
Who's to say that your interpretation of the Bible is correct in the slightest? It can be used to justify nearly anything, there are definitely wrong ways to interpret it.
And no, I'm not a Xian.
im talking about the stuff that they follow that is not in the bible. and they admit it. its all from a doctrine one of the pope's wrote. not in the bible whatsoever.
i agree about how some parts of the bible and be interpreted.
Tanooki Suit
04/01/05, 11:31 AM
was
I guess technically he isn't dead yet. Damn conflicting reports.
Thomas Sway
04/01/05, 11:32 AM
Oh. Well then. lol. I'm sure he'll be dead by the next time I think / hear about any of this.
slickwataris
04/01/05, 11:35 AM
I said before he wasn't dead, no one believes me.
Pat Marquez
04/01/05, 11:40 AM
Oh. Well then. lol. I'm sure he'll be dead by the next time I think / hear about any of this.
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X Out The Eyes
04/01/05, 11:41 AM
god needs him to use the golden PSP.
Alan Rupp
04/01/05, 11:48 AM
when did i ever compare his death to a comedian ive never heard of untill the other day?
i respect his work. but that doesnt mean i have to respect the religion he represents.
I apologize for that. I was confusing you and someone else.
Your statement was "i don't know what the big deal is...."
That doens't sound like you respect his work in the slightest, or else you'd see what the big deal is. No one even mentioned the Church until you brought it up. It was about all the great things he's done for the world, regardless of affiliation.
im talking about the stuff that they follow that is not in the bible. and they admit it. its all from a doctrine one of the pope's wrote. not in the bible whatsoever.
hahaha, how contradictory of yourself
So, you'll take the interpretations of Jesus from people who never knew him over interpretations of the Bible from people who never lived then? Why is the Bible more authoritative than the word of a church leader from today? Paul's Epistles are exactly the same as what the Pope does today, but yet you value those as law, and call the Pope a joke. Get some sense.
KarolaBloch
04/01/05, 11:50 AM
this is sad news
hahaha, how contradictory of yourself
So, you'll take the interpretations of Jesus from people who never knew him over interpretations of the Bible from people who never lived then? Why is the Bible more authoritative than the word of a church leader from today? Paul's Epistles are exactly the same as what the Pope does today, but yet you value those as law, and call the Pope a joke. Get some sense.
how did his disciples not know Him? they put themselves higher than others. Jesus and the disciples never did that.
Alan Rupp
04/01/05, 12:01 PM
how did his disciples not know Him? they put themselves higher than others. Jesus and the disciples never did that.
none of his disciples wrote a word in the Bible....
and the early Church leaders didn't put themselves ahead of people?? hahaha
Tanooki Suit
04/01/05, 12:06 PM
none of his disciples wrote a word in the Bible....
and the early Church leaders didn't put themselves ahead of people?? hahaha
pwnage
none of his disciples wrote a word in the Bible....
are you smoking crack?
LostInTheCrowd
04/01/05, 12:57 PM
All I know is this is my favorite thread title ever.
I just don't see how this needs to get into a huge issue about who has problems with what church and why. The pope is on his death bed, if he hasn't already passed. Must we argue about it?
richter915
04/01/05, 01:04 PM
I just don't see how this needs to get into a huge issue about who has problems with what church and why. The pope is on his death bed, if he hasn't already passed. Must we argue about it?
yes, it's human nature to fight over the death of someone...someone finds it devastating, someone could care less..do you think they're just gonna keep quiet when put together?
LostInTheCrowd
04/01/05, 01:05 PM
I'm not very religious so could someone fill me in and tell me what the Pope does and why he is as Pat says "One Of The Most Influential Men Of The Last 30 Years".
pjtunes91
04/01/05, 01:10 PM
The title of this thread reads like a commercial for Best Week Ever.
The title of this thread reads like a commercial for Best Week Ever.
Haha yeah it does. I actually laughed when I read it. I'm evil.
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it sucks but death happens. personally, i'm going to miss mitch hedberg a whole lot more than the pope.
LostInTheCrowd
04/01/05, 01:21 PM
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it sucks but death happens. personally, i'm going to miss mitch hedberg a whole lot more than the pope.
Same. I got real upset about Hedberg, I don't see myself getting upset over the Pope.
Shellular
04/01/05, 01:26 PM
this is totally sad and all, buttttt, if they interupt my soap opera one more time, to report the popes condition, im going to kill the abc news people.
LostInTheCrowd
04/01/05, 01:30 PM
this is totally sad and all, buttttt, if they interupt my soap opera one more time, to report the popes condition, im going to kill the abc news people.
lol.
Alan Rupp
04/01/05, 02:12 PM
are you smoking crack?
Absolutely not. Tell me who wrote each book.
Thomas Sway
04/01/05, 02:14 PM
this is totally sad and all, buttttt, if they interupt my soap opera one more time, to report the popes condition, im going to kill the abc news people.
Maybe God is killing the Pope on purpose to interupt your soap opera as a way to remind you that you shouldn't be watching stupid fucking shit?
Does it make you feel guilty? the knowledge that you are responsible for the death of the pope? because of your horrible choices in television programming?
Shellular
04/01/05, 02:19 PM
Maybe God is killing the Pope on purpose to interupt your soap opera as a way to remind you that you shouldn't be watching stupid fucking shit?
Does it make you feel guilty? the knowledge that you are responsible for the death of the pope? because of your horrible choices in television programming?
I have very good reasoning to be watching them!!! I live in the middle of nowhere, my sister takes my car to work everyday, so I can't go anywhere, and my phone is disconnected, so i can't calllllll anyone to go anywhere. So, the only exciting thing to do, while sitting home alone, is watching rich people be overly dramatic.
Thomas Sway
04/01/05, 02:21 PM
I have very good reasoning to be watching them!!! I live in the middle of nowhere, my sister takes my car to work everyday, so I can't go anywhere, and my phone is disconnected, so i can't calllllll anyone to go anywhere. So, the only exciting thing to do, while sitting home alone, is watching rich people be overly dramatic.
To hell with that. Sit on your computer WITHOUT tv? Watch movies? Buy a season of something on DVD and go crazy watching that. Read. Develop some type of creative hobby. Try to bite your elbow. Re-organize your room. Do ANYTHING but watch bullshit television. :)
Shellular
04/01/05, 02:23 PM
To hell with that. Sit on your computer WITHOUT tv? Watch movies? Buy a season of something on DVD and go crazy watching that. Read. Develop some type of creative hobby. Try to bite your elbow. Re-organize your room. Do ANYTHING but watch bullshit television. :)
It's in my blood. I've been watching these soaps since I was in kindergarten. I swear. Everyday after school I would watch them with my Mom. I feel weird if I don't watch them like everyday.
I do re-organize crap, and read, and watch movies. But you have to understand. I do NOTHING. All day, everyday. That's a lot of hours to fill with doing stuff. I get bored a lot.
of cours they didnt write everything..... old testament is out right awya of course.
but John wrote John and Revelations
Matthew wrote Matthew.....
its really not hard
i'm going to miss mitch hedberg a whole lot more than the pope.
And you are going to burn in hell for it
im_random
04/01/05, 04:21 PM
fine....
i'll keep this really simple.
all the hardcore Catholics. the ones in charge of churchs ive been to. all believe that you must be catholic to go to heaven. yet no where. NO WHERE in the bible it says that.
wow wow wow. i realize this has probably already been put to rest, but where the FUCK are you getting your information? i'm catholic, i go to catholic school, i go to church every week..and i have NEVER ONCE heard a catholic say that to go to heaven you must be catholic. that's complete fucking bullshit.
on another note, the pope is the shit for reasons already mentioned, mostly by alan. and also..he's not dead yet. he's probably not going to make it much longer though, which is really really sad.
skYcriesforme
04/01/05, 04:31 PM
of cours they didnt write everything..... old testament is out right awya of course.
but John wrote John and Revelations
Matthew wrote Matthew.....
its really not hard
I am not religious myself by my parents attempted to force it on me when i was younger. I believe that the people that wrote these books simply titled them "Matthew" etc, and they were just randoms.. not actually the disciples. I could be wrong though.
richter915
04/01/05, 04:31 PM
It's in my blood. I've been watching these soaps since I was in kindergarten. I swear. Everyday after school I would watch them with my Mom. I feel weird if I don't watch them like everyday.
I do re-organize crap, and read, and watch movies. But you have to understand. I do NOTHING. All day, everyday. That's a lot of hours to fill with doing stuff. I get bored a lot.
u must masturbate a whole lot
im_random
04/01/05, 04:36 PM
I am not religious myself by my parents attempted to force it on me when i was younger. I believe that the people that wrote these books simply titled them "Matthew" etc, and they were just randoms.. not actually the disciples. I could be wrong though.
No I'm pretty sure that's true. Well for a bunch of the letters of Paul I know it is anyway..he didn't write most of them, most theologians think that his followers wrote most of the letters and they're just attributed to Paul.
Alan Rupp
04/01/05, 04:40 PM
of cours they didnt write everything..... old testament is out right awya of course.
but John wrote John and Revelations
Matthew wrote Matthew.....
its really not hard
This is not true in the slightest. Most scholars accept that The Gospel of John was written between AD 95 and 100, with some even putting it as far back as 160 (the earliest assertion is 70). So along these lines, John would have to have been around 100 years old when he wrote the Gospel. That's incredibly old for that time, and almost impossible that the actual Apostle wrote the Gospel. What most scholars believe is that it was written by a sect of Christians that had studied under John, and used his name as a "title" to gain credibility.
Revelation was written in AD 96. That's accepted by almost every Biblical scholar. The only reason it's even attributed to John is because there are similarities in style to the Gospel. Revelation also showcases a lot of knowledge about Christian persectution in Asia Minor, which John the Apostle would have no knowledge of.
Now, Matthew is the most likely of all the Evangelists to have actually written the Gospel attributed to him. It was most likely written between 60 and 65, almost definitely before the destruction of Jerusalem. While Mark and Luke are very Pauline, Matthew is one of the most "Jewish" of all the Gospels. So it's possible that he was still alive at the time he was 60 or 65, and if he couldn't write at that age, he likely could have dictated it. Although, most modern scholars just say that it's written by "anonymous."
The point of this is: forget what you think you know about Jesus or the Bible. It's most likely not true. Jesus never wrote a single word in his life (that has survived today). The Gospels post-date Paul's epistles, they are most likely not first-hand accounts.
So it comes back to the original question: why is it that much different for the Pope to interpret what he believes are Jesus' true words, but Paul's epistles (which are more antagonistic letters than letters of inspiration) and the Gospels have unquestioned authority as the word of God?
my favorite part of this thread is how nobody gives a shit about terry schiavo. awesome.
Tanooki Suit
04/01/05, 04:51 PM
Her death was no surprise. I didn't expect Mitch Hedberg, and I thought the pope would last a few more months until about 3 days ago.
RoomWithAVeiw
04/01/05, 05:05 PM
i miss mitch already :(
Shellular
04/01/05, 05:09 PM
u must masturbate a whole lot
shhhhhhhhhh ;)
aminorthreat55
04/01/05, 05:11 PM
Haha Tony that dying pool is hilarious.
Tanooki Suit
04/01/05, 05:25 PM
Haha Tony that dying pool is hilarious.
Thanks Pete. It looks like I'm set to get two points in my first week, how awesome is that?
aminorthreat55
04/01/05, 05:27 PM
Thanks Pete. It looks like I'm set to get two points in my first week, how awesome is that?
Quite awesome. Almost as awesome as the ice cream sundae I'm about to indulge in.
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