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Russ Hockenbury
04/05/05, 02:10 PM
Taken from Upbeetmusic.com:

Show: All American Rejects, Action Action, Number One Fan
Date: April 1, 2005
Venue: Headliner’s
City: Louisville, KY
Price: $12


“No one over the age of 21 goes to an All American Rejects show”

The above sentence was uttered sarcastically by the lanky, brace-faced teen waiting directly in front of me to get into Friday night’s All American Rejects show. Headliner’s doubles as a bar, but has the occasional all ages show. The awkward teen spoke that truism only after security had asked the waiting crowd who would need a wristband (those able to purchase alcohol) and NO ONE volunteered to have the mark of old age slapped to their person. However, there were at least two people over the age of 21 at the AAR show that night. One being this grizzled old scenester at the ripe age of 22, and the other being his date of the same years.

I’ve only begun to feel my youth disappear at shows over the past year. I have to wonder what happens to people like me. Do we all force ourselves to listen to boring indie bands like Neutral Milk Hotel and Wilco just for the pure fact that we’re supposed to be progressive? Have I missed my musical growth spurt?

Standing amongst a crowd where the average age was likely 16.5 years of age, it became all too clear to me that this type of music has a definite shelf life. This likely wouldn’t matter much to anyone on the business end of the genre. We all know that most of the money is made in the 15 to 19 year old demographic. No, it only really becomes an issue for the fans. The scene tends to recycle itself, churning out younger fans to replace the older ones it loses. Just where do the older ones go to die, though?

The first band on the bill on the night of my epiphany was Number One Fan. Basically, NOF is AAR with better hair, but less a potent brew of sugar pop. I don’t believe this band really took off the way that industry people thought they would with the release of their debut, Compromises. They seem talented enough and I’m betting the Wisconsin four-piece will get one more cd out before the jury is in on whether or not their careers will mirror that of Wakefield or their Oklahoma tourmates.

The sandwich band was the ever intriguing, Action Action. Made of former members of The Reunion Show (including vocalist, Mark Thomas Kluepfel) and Count the Stars, Action Action boast an impressive pedigree. Their brand of 80’s moog inspired, synth pop plays to a more diverse audience than does the music of the opener and headliner.
This however, did leave a few of the younger audience members with blank stares and feelings of uncertainty.

The crowd was looking for bounce and that’s what it got when AAR took the stage at around 9pm. I have to admit that back in their Doghouse days, I thought this band was the greatest thing since sliced bread. As rumors circled about their rapid ascent to major label stardom, my opinion changed little. Now, about a year and a half later I can see why they lose fans at a certain age. My ex-girlfriend put it best. She said that she really liked “Your Star” and decided to dust off her AAR mix cd the other day, knowing that she’d be attending the show with me that night. When she popped it in, she struggled to find “Your Star”, thinking on several occasions that another AAR song was the song she was looking for. It all sounds the same to more finely tuned ears.

It’s fun, it’s bubbly, but one thing it isn’t is diverse. That’s something the All American Rejects have to strive for on their next release. One song from that upcoming album that got played was a slightly more mature, TGUK like number called, “I’m Waiting”. It’ll likely be the first single. I say TGUK, but don’t think for a minute we’re talking about “On A Wire” like stuff here.

I hate it when people say a band really “grows up” on an album. Moreso, the fans grow up. And yes awkward teen, people over 21 DO go to All American Rejects shows...they just don’t like to admit it.

FinchBulldog2
04/05/05, 02:15 PM
Listen to whatever the fuck you want. I don't give a shit what some retard thinks who can't even dress himself to anything besides his music.

mybreakingpoint
04/05/05, 02:24 PM
Listen to whatever the fuck you want. I don't give a shit what some retard thinks who can't even dress himself to anything besides his music.


my thoughts exactly people need to get over themselves music is about music period everyone can like what they like and if someone else doesnt like it they can go fuck themselves i can almost guarantee that every single person on this site has stood up for a band they love atleast once so everyone knows where that comes from. love the music, hate the scene. some people are some of the most amazing people you'll ever meet, others are some of the biggest jackasses you'll ever meet it's just the way it goes.

FinchBulldog2
04/05/05, 02:27 PM
Yup...Some "scene" kids deserve a savage beating. Others are nice, you're right. It's perfectly fine to support a band you like with their shirt, but some kids take it too far and are snobby about shit.

I remember I wore an afi shirt to school one day jr. year in high school. Some scene kid who had been listening to this music for like 4 months said "that kid should not be wearing an afi shirt." It's like are you serious? Don't question me because I'm not lame about it like you.

jaimej
04/05/05, 02:29 PM
Number One Fan is awesome live. And I'm 23 and will be at that tour. I don't think age influences the concerts you go to but it definitely influences the way you act at shows. You won't find me in the pit or crowdsurfing like I did to Goldfinger back in the day haha, but you will catch me in the back by the bar. ;)

Shoes
04/05/05, 02:47 PM
Sheesh people do like to over analysis everything don't they? The kid probably said it because AAR has a little 14 year old following, but then again they also has a 20 something following.
Listen to what you want fuck this thread it makes me wants to cry.

SC0926
04/05/05, 02:47 PM
Number One Fan is awesome live. And I'm 23 and will be at that tour. I don't think age influences the concerts you go to but it definitely influences the way you act at shows. You won't find me in the pit or crowdsurfing like I did to Goldfinger back in the day haha, but you will catch me in the back by the bar. ;)
agreed completely.

Shoes
04/05/05, 02:48 PM
but you will catch me in the back by the bar. ;)
hahaha sweet

EnderDove
04/05/05, 03:38 PM
I've almost started to plug my ears while waiting in line at shows and while bands are setting up. The things that can be heard are stupid and ignorant enough to make me lash out.

Shoes
04/05/05, 03:47 PM
True story, I remember I was at the vagrant tour and someone said something about senses fail being emo and this girls went insane and started saying that if she saw one more person with an atticus shirt she was going to slap them. Fucking twat.

IAmCountryMusic
04/05/05, 03:49 PM
everytime they play here its 21 and over :headshake

Paul Tao
04/05/05, 04:06 PM
i can understand that though...i have midlife crises everytime i go to a show like that, where the avg age is like 15.

Greg
04/05/05, 04:09 PM
some fuck told me TSL is screamo.... needless to say i dont listen to what other people say anymore

a typicalcliche
04/05/05, 04:11 PM
the singer from hopesfall was crying on stage yesterday because some guy was telling him that the new shit sucked and to play more old stuff

Greg
04/05/05, 04:12 PM
the singer from hopesfall was crying on stage yesterday because some guy was telling him that the new shit sucked and to play more old stuff
hahaha ouch

mondeoman
04/05/05, 04:28 PM
There is this guy who is a mod at the site I work at and he's like 37 and he's the biggest AAR fan ever. So yeah people over 21 do go to AAR shows.

Kif
04/05/05, 04:31 PM
I personally don't care about the scene, and stay as far away from it as possible. I wear band shirts, that's about it. No Atticus wristbands, no overdone makeup, no girls jeans.

aminorthreat55
04/05/05, 04:37 PM
I've almost started to plug my ears while waiting in line at shows and while bands are setting up. The things that can be heard are stupid and ignorant enough to make me lash out.
Yeah seriously, like 3 years ago I went to the civic tour with Roger Miret & the Disasters, Less Than Jake, Good Charlotte and New Found Glory. Some tools in front of me who were probably about 18 or 19, there only because of LTJ, were talking about random shit while we were in line and a new song came on over the PA and I go "hey! "Rudie Can't Fail" by The Clash, I love this song" to my sister who I was with. Then two seconds later, one of the tools in front of me goes, "hey its the Clash, and I bet I'm the only person here who knows that". Fucking elitist fuckwit, thinking he's hot shit because he can spot a Clash song while standing in line for a Good Charlotte show. I have no idea what my point is, but in any event, there will always be idiots in line for shows who say the stupidest shit ever.

I personally don't care about the scene, and stay as far away from it as possible. I wear band shirts, that's about it. No Atticus wristbands, no overdone makeup, no girls jeans.
Same. I support good music and that's it.

There is this guy who is a mod at the site I work at and he's like 37 and he's the biggest AAR fan ever. So yeah people over 21 do go to AAR shows.
My ex-girlfriend's dad liked AAR I think.

Shoes
04/05/05, 04:45 PM
I have no idea what my point is, but in any event, there will always be idiots in line for shows who say the stupidest shit ever.
Yeah and they're usally the same people who either get slapped in the mosh pit or leave early.

mat1419
04/05/05, 05:05 PM
i'm 22 and still get my fix by going to shows, i'm going to aar at the 930 club in dc. i don't care how old i get, i'll go wherever i want. i don't go up front much anymore though, not due to age, but due to the fact of crowd behavior deteriorating over the past few years. it's like babysitting up there, i'm at the point where a jack and coke in the middle of the pack is AOK with me.

aminorthreat55
04/05/05, 05:06 PM
i'm 22 and still get my fix by going to shows, i'm going to aar at the 930 club in dc. i don't care how old i get, i'll go wherever i want. i don't go up front much anymore though, not due to age, but due to the fact of crowd behavior deteriorating over the past few years. it's like babysitting up there, i'm at the point where a jack and coke in the middle of the pack is AOK with me.
Damn right.

Greg
04/05/05, 05:22 PM
im 18 and i feel too old. like at TSL on saturday.... so many younger kids. but honestly i dont let that affect my show. i still had a great time. i was front and center. i was screaming at kenny the whole time. i live for live shows...

Tony Pascarella
04/05/05, 05:53 PM
I love when people jokingly antagonize the bands. Not like hateful stuff, but just messing with them from the front row. I was standing in front of Tom at the JEW show down here, and all during the show, anytime they'd complain or something about not being able to stand hot weather, I'd yell, "You're all pussies" with a grin on my face, and other stuff like that. He and I laughed about it afterwards when I got to go backstage.

Bands that know how to have fun are cool. The ones that act like uber-professional assholes aren't. The point of these shows is for the bands and their fans to have fun.

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ParisInFlames55
04/05/05, 05:57 PM
i can see where he is coming from and actually agree with a lot of what he said. theres no need to jump down my or anyone else in here's throat because this really isn't an extremely important issue. the crowds have changed a lot at shows that is an obvious fact to anyone who has attended them for many years. i'll leave my personal opinion out of it, but theres no way around saying that they have changed. i listen to whatever i want, but my musical taste has changed a lot. i still listen to a lot of what i use to, but i can in no way live off of it anymore. counting crows and ryan adams records have taken the place of the constant mxpx and less than jake rotation. i love all four of those bands, its just what my ear wants to hear these days. i feel this whole getting old and feeling out of place at shows with the crowds that are there now. it use to feel more like a group, now it seems to be more divided. its still a great time, but the last show i really felt a part of was against me. it was such an amazing experience. i think i will stop this random rambling here and just hope you kind of got what i was trying to say because i didn't.

Greg
04/05/05, 06:01 PM
i can see where he is coming from and actually agree with a lot of what he said. theres no need to jump down my or anyone else in here's throat because this really isn't an extremely important issue. the crowds have changed a lot at shows that is an obvious fact to anyone who has attended them for many years. i'll leave my personal opinion out of it, but theres no way around saying that they have changed. i listen to whatever i want, but my musical taste has changed a lot. i still listen to a lot of what i use to, but i can in no way live off of it anymore. counting crows and ryan adams records have taken the place of the constant mxpx and less than jake rotation. i love all four of those bands, its just what my ear wants to hear these days. i feel this whole getting old and feeling out of place at shows with the crowds that are there now. it use to feel more like a group, now it seems to be more divided. its still a great time, but the last show i really felt a part of was against me. it was such an amazing experience. i think i will stop this random rambling here and just hope you kind of got what i was trying to say because i didn't.
i think i understand. and i agree.

djUbilla
04/05/05, 10:32 PM
i can understand that though...i have midlife crises everytime i go to a show like that, where the avg age is like 15.
I'm with ya Paul.