Hardcore or "hXc" dudes hahahahaha

[oldwirehands]

All these dudes that were listening to the Postal Service as of last year are now all "Oh I'm a fucking expert on hardcre! XerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrX I'm so hardcore that I don't drink or smoke and I wear girl's pants and hardcore dance in parking lots while listening to Adema XerrrrrrrrrrrX"

[edit] THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN'T LIKE HARDCORE AND THE POSTAL SERVICE!! haha I'm just simply saying all these kids that are jumping on this trend are just doing it for the image. Today its all about tight pants, thrash dancing, gauged ears, camo, and trying to act like a badass (when they're really not). That is what these kids think hardcore is. Nothing about the music (the music is just to dance to which is why you have a million hardcore bands popping up and all sounding the same).

[a typicalcliche]

....

[apoemtothedead]

It's wierd. I heard 6 or 7 people say that same exact thing today at school.

[somesortofidiot]

my dog just looked at me and said the same thing


verbatim even

[PunkDrums182]

my dog just looked at me and said the same thing


verbatim even
hahahah

[KarolaBloch]

old. real old. you can listen to the postal service and still listen to hardcore.. infact its better if you do listen to the postal service and champion.. it makes your musical tastes wider and therefor better. girls pants... yeah a lot of kids wear them. but do you? im guessing you don't, so don't worry about it.

[sweetfootaction]

This 'hardcore' trend is ridiculous. As are most other trends.

[em0_stars]

I love trends. Especially this new one called breathing.

[dretti]

yeah, im not really the musically trendy type

[beforeaflame]

you mean the postal service was out last year? i so totally thought they only became a band a few months ago when that like, totally amazing movie garden state came out.
















...................................

[EnderDove]

Its not hardcore or hXc. Its "H+ardapplecore-apple". Duh.

[UnbanPapathomas]

Not true. We listen Bury Your Dead and Eighteen Visions.

[MayoDeftinwolf]

um..since when did the Postal Service become the posterchild of hardcore??

[oldwirehands]

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with listening to the Postal Service. Its just these kids that thought hardcore was Silverstein are now thinking they're hardcore buffs just because they've gone to a few shows and saw people wearing tight pants.

[punkpixie]

I'm so glad that this sort of thing isn't rife where I live...

[oldwirehands]

I'm so glad that this sort of thing isn't rife where I live...

Then you're lucky. Too many kids around here worship hardcore like its the greatest thing in the world. These are the same kids who were shopping at American Eagle. I guess they found Hot Topic across the way so they decided to check that out.

[EnderDove]

Ugh....who cares.

If you like a certain kind of music, okay. Sure there are some ignorant people who like it for a trend or something like that but you can pick those people out and so you shouldnt care about them.

Listen to what you want, that simple.

[tylertherobot]

it realy doesnt matter. "being hardcore" has come down to bandana out your back pocket, bandana over your face, tight dark jeans, and tight black zip up hoody with the hoodup

[hXc_pwnage]

I suck at music now.

I listen to basically the same bands I did a couple months ago.

[punkerx99]

Hardcore has nothing to do with girl pants.

This morning I listened to Chain of Strength, and now I'm listening to Gatsby's American Dream. There's nothing wrong with that.

old. real old. you can listen to the postal service and still listen to hardcore.. infact its better if you do listen to the postal service and champion.. it makes your musical tastes wider and therefor better.

The Postal Service and Champion are two of my favorite bands. Nice post.

[hXc_pwnage]

Hardcore has nothing to do with girl pants.
I wish more people would realize this. Girl pants aren't hardcore. Being hardcore doesn't mean wearing girl pants.

If you look past the people that listen to Hawthorne Heights, and Senses Fail, and the "bigger" hardcore bands, there isn't any real "fashion." There isn't girl pants, atleast. Girl pants are just a trend.

[punkerx99]

I wish more people would realize this. Girl pants aren't hardcore. Being hardcore doesn't mean wearing girl pants.

If you look past the people that listen to Hawthorne Heights, and Senses Fail, and the "bigger" hardcore bands, there isn't any real "fashion." There isn't girl pants, atleast. Girl pants are just a trend.

Those bands aren't hardcore.

I don't even care about the girl pants. I think people should be able to dress however they want; however, you'll find that girl pants don't really exist past the faux-scream type bands you listed. Don't get me wrong, I like Senses Fail's first ep, and I'm into quite a few of those bands, but they have nothing to do with hardcore.

If you look at bands like Comeback Kid, Bane, Champion, With Honor, etc. (four of the biggest names in hardcore right now), you'll see that image has absolutely nothing to do with them.
In all honesty, I hate to keep sounding like some hardcore elitist, but it's the only way I can convey my ideas in these arguments.

[hXc_pwnage]

Those bands aren't hardcore.

I don't even care about the girl pants. I think people should be able to dress however they want; however, you'll find that girl pants don't really exist past the faux-scream type bands you listed. Don't get me wrong, I like Senses Fail's first ep, and I'm into quite a few of those bands, but they have nothing to do with hardcore.

If you look at bands like Comeback Kid, Bane, Champion, With Honor, etc. (four of the biggest names in hardcore right now), you'll see that image has absolutely nothing to do with them.
In all honesty, I hate to keep sounding like some hardcore elitist, but it's the only way I can convey my ideas in these arguments.
You know what I mean though. Of course I don't think they're hardcore in the least, but all the kids that listen to them think they are.

I agree. I mean, I wear girl pants sometimes. They just feel comfortable. And I thought that was what mattered? Just feeling comfortable in your clothes.

I agree, though. The only real fashion things are clothes that are on the opposite spectrum of girl pants. Camo shorts, basketball shorts, hoodies, those hats...that's about all I can think of. No girl pants.

[punkerx99]

You know what I mean though. Of course I don't think they're hardcore in the least, but all the kids that listen to them think they are.

I agree. I mean, I wear girl pants sometimes. They just feel comfortable. And I thought that was what mattered? Just feeling comfortable in your clothes.

I agree, though. The only real fashion things are clothes that are on the opposite spectrum of girl pants. Camo shorts, basketball shorts, hoodies, those hats...that's about all I can think of. No girl pants.

My bad. I don't care if you wear girl pants. I dress like a scenester sometimes too. It really doesn't matter.

And I have to correct myself, there is a ton of fashion in hardcore, but people try to deny it. Camo is EVERYWHERE. And once again, it's really not the end of the world. As long as I have a good time at shows, everything is ok.

[hXc_pwnage]

My bad. I don't care if you wear girl pants. I dress like a scenester sometimes too. It really doesn't matter.

And I have to correct myself, there is a ton of fashion in hardcore, but people try to deny it. Camo is EVERYWHERE. And once again, it's really not the end of the world. As long as I have a good time at shows, everything is ok.
Exactly.

Some people just need to chill out. It isn't the end of the world if a kid comes in wearing girl pants or his sister's shirt. I mean, if they have a love for the music, what's the problem? People are just getting too quick to judge nowadays.

[oldwirehands]

Thats the problem with these "hardcore kids" today. They think girl's pants IS hardcore. Its not really about the music.

[Manbotisdead]

What about those of us who like both Hardcore and The Postal Service?

[FrancesTheMute]

i like some hardcore, like dillinger, converge, norma jean, etid


but i do think the people who refuse to listen to anything other than hardcore are lame.

[thrice_is_nice]

yes i agree its okay if u come up to me and say "I'm hardcore" but if someone is like "i'm harcore i like Senses Fail and Green Day"
by the way Comeback Kid is the worst "hardcore" band out there they use just about every cliche and line everyother band has used on their new cd and every song sounds the same dun get me wrong im not sayin i kno what hardcore is, hell i liseten to from First to last and i admit they r not that original but comeback kis is by far definitley worse

[hXc_pwnage]

by the way Comeback Kid is the worst "hardcore" band out there they use just about every cliche and line everyother band has used on their new cd and every song sounds the same dun get me wrong im not sayin i kno what hardcore is, hell i liseten to from First to last and i admit they r not that original but comeback kis is by far definitley worse
...

You're a fucking moron.

[thrice_is_nice]

so im told...but at least i dun listen to Comeback Kid Come in alive, something stirs inside
This isn't over yet
Take off the dirt
Swallow regret
Stop living under the weight
Living under the weight of regret
Your regrets
Don't lose all...
Your regrets
Don't lose all...
Don't let it happen to you
Don't lose all...
Which side are you gonna choose?
Cus' I'm only, I believe in seeing you RISE!

We said, we said, we said
This time was gonna be different
Wake up the dead
-comeback kid
ever heard all thats left by thrice? hrrrm the two songs r quite similar

"All In A Year"

Where have you gone?
How Does time pass by so fast
Seems like yesterday
You and I
We Could Relate
But you know how things change
But is it me? Or is it time?
Now I'm stuck looking back
On somehting that I'll never have again

All this time with regret
I Just Lost Today
Worrying about yesterday

Can't live in yesterday

All this time with regret
I lost today
Worrying about yesterday
I lost today
And No I'll never forget about you
I lost today
I just came to terms that I've lost you

On with my life
-comeback kid
lmao ever heard that so yesterday song by Hilary Duff?

these r just the same concept disguised by different songs

[punkerx99]

"All In A Year"



OH SHIT!!! You just insulted my favorite Comeback Kid song you piece of shit.


If you knew anything about hardcore you'd realize that the lyrics aren't necessarily the most important part of the music. Most of the lyrical themes are the same.

From First To Last, Norma Jean, and ETID have nothing to do with hardcore, either.

[hXc_pwnage]

So now you're saying that they can't have the same concept as a singer who they most likely don't even listen to?

You're fucking stupid. Don't even talk.

[thrice_is_nice]

ooooo burn jus PLS PLS b4 u do anything contribute to my negative rep!!

[hXc_pwnage]

Hahahahahahahahahahah.

You compare the Thrice song and the Comeback Kid song because they both mention something about the dead.

You're just stupid.

[punkerx99]

So now you're saying that they can't have the same concept as a singer who they most likely don't even listen to?

You're fucking stupid. Don't even talk.
I just saw her myspace and she's really cute. It's a shame she's pretty naive. Oh well!

[hXc_pwnage]

I just saw her myspace and she's really cute. It's a shame she's pretty naive. Oh well!
That happens a lot lately.

It's sure a shame.

[punkerx99]

Also, Hillary Duff is probably my favorite hardcore artist. The two-step parts in "So Yesterday" really make me want to bring the mosh.

[hXc_pwnage]

Also, Hillary Duff is probably my favorite hardcore artist. The two-step parts in "So Yesterday" really make me want to bring the mosh.
I can windmill to that breakdown all day long.

[punkerx99]

I can windmill to that breakdown all day long.
My friends and I always throw on crappy pop like HIllary Duff and gay techno when we want to have a good time. (I'm not kidding).

[hXc_pwnage]

We'll be driving down, and they want to listen to some hardcore, and I tell them to let me get me iPod.

We then listen to Justin Timberlake for a while.

[thrice_is_nice]

okay u hardcore kids can have fun listening to ur Justin Timberlake and Comeback Kid but i still say Comeback kid is the worst excuse for a harcore band ever and heres a concept: listen to a band because you like it not because hot topic labels it the best hardcore band of the year

[punkerx99]

okay u hardcore kids can have fun listening to ur Justin Timberlake and Comeback Kid but i still say Comeback kid is the worst excuse for a harcore band ever and heres a concept: listen to a band because you like it not because hot topic labels it the best hardcore band of the year


Oh no. You didn't go there.

You do realize that From First To Last sucks penis, and that Comeback Kid weren't marketed by Hot Topic. CBK have been touring like crazy for the past few years, and they were a HUGE underground success while they were on Facedown. You have absolutely know idea what the point of hardcore is.

I guarantee you've never heard a real hardcore band before aside from Comeback Kid. Wake The Dead will be one of the best releases this year, anyway.

I really didn't want to start this argument, but you are absolutely retarded. That's all.

[hXc_pwnage]

Oh no. You didn't go there.

You do realize that From First To Last sucks penis, and that Comeback Kid weren't marketed by Hot Topic. CBK have been touring like crazy for the past few years, and they were a HUGE underground success while they were on Facedown. You have absolutely know idea what the point of hardcore is.

I guarantee you've never heard a real hardcore band before aside from Comeback Kid. Wake The Dead will be one of the best releases this year, anyway.

I really didn't want to start this argument, but you are absolutely retarded. That's all.
Owned.

[thrice_is_nice]

okay from first to last has no relavence in this argument they r kinda unoriginal and i admitted that and considering u probablly sucked Comeback kids cock when u "interviewed" them doesnt mean u have to hate on fftl for doin it ah what can i expect u probablly think fall out boy is hard core too

[punkerx99]

okay from first to last has no relavence in this argument they r kinda unoriginal and i admitted that and considering u probablly sucked Comeback kids cock when u "interviewed" them doesnt mean u have to hate on fftl for doin it ah what can i expect u probablly think fall out boy is hard core too

BAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Fall Out Boy is amazing. They have more to do with hardcore than most of the bands you listen to because they were all in hardcore bands before FOB. In all honesty, don't start this argument. Just realize that you are an idiot.

Yes, I sucked Comeback Kid's dick. Collectively. All at once. It was the best ever. Sweet. Cool.

Also, I'd sincerely like to know what you consider hardcore.

[thrice_is_nice]

well i know that no matter what bands i say are hardcore you will refute it but okay i guess Cannibal Corpse. Fear Before the March of Flames and the Bled are hardcore in my eyes but go ahead and have fun kicking my ass with pointless remarks cause i like it rough

hrrmr that shut everyone up

[Manbotisdead]

well i know that no matter what bands i say are hardcore you will refute it but okay i guess Cannibal Corpse. Fear Before the March of Flames and the Bled are hardcore in my eyes but go ahead and have fun kicking my ass with pointless remarks cause i like it rough

hrrmr that shut everyone up


Cannibal Corpse, they always struck me as metal. Go listen to Refused.

[i said poop]

okay u hardcore kids can have fun listening to ur Justin Timberlake and Comeback Kid but i still say Comeback kid is the worst excuse for a harcore band ever and heres a concept: listen to a band because you like it not because hot topic labels it the best hardcore band of the year


FACT: comeback kid is actually the best thing to happen to hardcore in long time.

they mix alot of old school hardcore/punk aspects into their music but with a touch of melodic parts. their lyrics are awesome, i don't know how you can make fun of them. they aren't whining about some girl breaking their hearts, but their lyrics have deeper meanings that what you precieve.

i believe it was law of inertia (one of the best underground magazines out there right now) gave comeback kid's new album the title of "hardcore album of the year." victory ran with it and slapped the quote from the magazine onto every copy of 'wake the dead' to hit store shelves.

groundbreaking? not really. strikingly original? not really. full of heart, passion, soul (pretty much everything from first to last lacks) HELL FUCKING YES.






cliffnotes verison: comeback kid > you.

[BrandNew20]

Comeback Kid is one of the few hardcore bands that I like, so they must be doing something right, because I don't usually like alot of hardcore.

[i said poop]

well i know that no matter what bands i say are hardcore you will refute it but okay i guess Cannibal Corpse. Fear Before the March of Flames and the Bled are hardcore in my eyes but go ahead and have fun kicking my ass with pointless remarks cause i like it rough

hrrmr that shut everyone up

the bled and fear before the march of flames = hardcore? no.

try shark attack, this is hell, where eagles dare, american nightmare/give up the ghost, modern life is war, slapshot, stand and fight, agonstic front, pride kills, 25 ta life, with honor, bane, terror, shai hulud, righteous jams, mental, kids like us, holdxfast, bloody sunday, hoods, casey jones, champion, death before dishonor, from ashes rise. the list goes on and on.

this new generation of melodic screamo with quasi breakdowns is giving a bad name to true hardcore.

[riverside_sam]

All these dudes that were listening to the Postal Service as of last year are now all "Oh I'm a fucking expert on hardcre! XerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrX I'm so hardcore that I don't drink or smoke and I wear girl's pants and hardcore dance in parking lots while listening to Adema XerrrrrrrrrrrX"

Wow, you are really dumb. Im not a fan of most hardcore kids, but wow, Id take em over you.

[Manbotisdead]

the bled and fear before the march of flames = hardcore? no.

try shark attack, this is hell, where eagles dare, american nightmare/give up the ghost, modern life is war, slapshot, stand and fight, agonstic front, pride kills, 25 ta life, with honor, bane, terror, shai hulud, righteous jams, mental, kids like us, holdxfast, bloody sunday, hoods, casey jones, champion, death before dishonor, from ashes rise. the list goes on and on.

this new generation of melodic screamo with quasi breakdowns is giving a bad name to true hardcore.

Have you heard the new Fear Before album? There is nothing remotely melodic about it. Its not screamo either. The first one was very much a screamo album, but the new stuff is very different.

[hXc_pwnage]

I love emo.

I idolize The Starting Line.

And Fall Out Boy.

[pjtunes91]

I hate hardcore.

FACT: Joey Righteous' (singer for Righteous Jams) favorite band is The Postal Service.

That's the first thing that came to mind when I read the first post.

[riverside_sam]

DId someone mention From First to Last in a seriousy manner? You kids dont even know what hardcore is....

And Im not a fan of it!

[i said poop]

Have you heard the new Fear Before album? There is nothing remotely melodic about it. Its not screamo either. The first one was very much a screamo album, but the new stuff is very different.

actually yea i have heard the new fbtmof album, my friend bought it and allowed me to load it onto my itunes. i have listened to it a couple times through and it is alright. to be honest it just reminds me of converge+blood brothers+botch. i think the new effort is better than their first release.

[Manbotisdead]

actually yea i have heard the new fbtmof album, my friend bought it and allowed me to load it onto my itunes. i have listened to it a couple times through and it is alright. to be honest it just reminds me of converge+blood brothers+botch. i think the new effort is better than their first release.

I like it alot better than the 1st one, but I also like the 1st one. I'm no hardcore expert, but I think they Fear Before and The Bled qualify as hardcore, but From First To Last definetly isn't.

[oldwirehands]

Weird how FBTMOF came up. I've been listening to both of their albums lately. The first album is more artsy and indie. The new is just brutal haha. When I recomend FBTMOF to anyone, I tell them to listen to the first album, then the second. If you're not a fan of hardcore and you just go listen to the first one, you won't understand it. I think you have to hear the first album before the second to hear we're they're coming from.

[FrancesTheMute]

i just got some scene points taken away and the person left this message:
"your understanding of hardcore is blurred."

hre is my post:
i like some hardcore, like dillinger, converge, norma jean, etid


but i do think the people who refuse to listen to anything other than hardcore are lame.
how is my understanding blurred? i know people who listen to only hardcore and think everything else is shit because it's not hardcore, and i find them lame.


and if you are talking about the bands i put, i just put them under "hardcore" because i didn't feel like listing every sub-genre when it's easier to just say hardcore. i don't care about the points, but i just wanna know what the fuck this person is talking about.

[liarpantsonfire]

Then you're lucky. Too many kids around here worship hardcore like its the greatest thing in the world. These are the same kids who were shopping at American Eagle. I guess they found Hot Topic across the way so they decided to check that out.
the way you dress has nothing to do with the music you listen to. i listen to all kinds of music, mostly hardcore and i dress whatever i think is cute...i think its dumb if you base your opinion on a persson by the way theyre dresssed. why does it matter if they dress in abercrombie or american eagle etc? if you see something you like, you should be able to wear it

[FinchBulldog2]

Xtreme!!!!!!!!

[oldwirehands]

Ok, people gave me some neg. points for this thread? So you people are in defense of annoying, trend following, peices of shit? Did you not read any of my posts here. I'm defending hardcore not mocking it. The only thing I'm mocking are these pimple faced f.ags who come out and say "Hey, I'm going to be hardcore today". Is this what you're defending? I don't hate anyone. I just find these kids annoying as fuck because they think they ARE hardcore.

[pjtunes91]

Ok, people gave me some neg. points for this thread? So you people are in defense of annoying, trend following, peices of shit? Did you not read any of my posts here. I'm defending hardcore not mocking it. The only thing I'm mocking are these pimple faced f.ags who come out and say "Hey, I'm going to be hardcore today". Is this what you're defending? I don't hate anyone. I just find these kids annoying as fuck because they think they ARE hardcore.
Maybe 'cause some of these kids you speak of post on these boards?

[liarpantsonfire]

Ok, people gave me some neg. points for this thread? So you people are in defense of annoying, trend following, peices of shit? Did you not read any of my posts here. I'm defending hardcore not mocking it. The only thing I'm mocking are these pimple faced f.ags who come out and say "Hey, I'm going to be hardcore today". Is this what you're defending? I don't hate anyone. I just find these kids annoying as fuck because they think they ARE hardcore.
im not defending those kids. im defending people like me who dress however they want. wm saying you cant always tell who listens to hardcore by the way they dress...by the way it wasntme who took away your points. i dont do that

[drumguy126]

I do know what your talkin bout. I was in a hardcore band, and i quit that shit cuz, well they were assholes. But now that i've gotten out of it, i really have gotten a wider view on how popularized its gotten. Everyone wears 2 sizes to small of shirts of hardcore bands, chick pants, and some old tennis shoes or all stars. Its gay, at least the posers who try. And if you look, majority of the hardcore bands dont wear chick pants, at least the good ones.

But yeah its gotten entirely to heavily popularized, but there is still really good hardcore bands out there. Damn posers.

[i like guitars]

tell those kids that go to shows to stop looking like clones.

[Manbotisdead]

tell those kids that go to shows to stop looking like clones.

Why don't you wimp?

[i like guitars]

Why don't you wimp?

well ill have a good chance if they want to gang up on me cuz most of them are so skinny i can break them. plus its kinda hard to fight when you got your cheezy hair in your eyes, another advantage for me.

[Stratocaster]

okay from first to last has no relavence in this argument they r kinda unoriginal and i admitted that and considering u probablly sucked Comeback kids cock when u "interviewed" them doesnt mean u have to hate on fftl for doin it ah what can i expect u probablly think fall out boy is hard core too
You have lost your permisson to talk

[thekinks?]

people are so "HxC" now and days...................that njot being "hardcore" is more hardcore then actually being it

[Blueskyburning]

i just got some scene points taken away and the person left this message:
"your understanding of hardcore is blurred."

hre is my post:

how is my understanding blurred? i know people who listen to only hardcore and think everything else is shit because it's not hardcore, and i find them lame.


and if you are talking about the bands i put, i just put them under "hardcore" because i didn't feel like listing every sub-genre when it's easier to just say hardcore. i don't care about the points, but i just wanna know what the fuck this person is talking about.

to be fair none of them bands are really hardcore, in plain genre terms they're more "metal"

[Stratocaster]

Just because they call themselves hardcore doesn't mean they are

[Tommy Vercetti]

Just because they call themselves hardcore doesn't mean they are
I agree hardcore bands arent really hardcore people just cause they have tatts and shit doesnt mean they are hard and just casue they play good heavy music doesnt mean they are hard either.......the real hardcore people are the Gangstas like fifty and tupac when he was still breathing them ****** have been shot repeatedly and have busted on other lads probably... gangsta rap is the new hardcore.. ;)

to be fair none of them bands are really hardcore, in plain genre terms they're more "metal"

norma jean is pretty sic and hardcore.i wouldnt say metal.metal is like avenged sevenfold and killswitch.. i dont know

[punkerx99]

I agree hardcore bands arent really hardcore people just cause they have tatts and shit doesnt mean they are hard and just casue they play good heavy music doesnt mean they are hard either.......the real hardcore people are the Gangstas like fifty and tupac when he was still breathing them ****** have been shot repeatedly and have busted on other lads probably... gangsta rap is the new hardcore.. ;)



norma jean is pretty sic and hardcore.i wouldnt say metal.metal is like avenged sevenfold and killswitch.. i dont know

Shut up.

[hXc_pwnage]

I agree hardcore bands arent really hardcore people just cause they have tatts and shit doesnt mean they are hard and just casue they play good heavy music doesnt mean they are hard either.......the real hardcore people are the Gangstas like fifty and tupac when he was still breathing them ****** have been shot repeatedly and have busted on other lads probably... gangsta rap is the new hardcore.. ;)



norma jean is pretty sic and hardcore.i wouldnt say metal.metal is like avenged sevenfold and killswitch.. i dont know
Hahaha.