Have to vent.

[Frank Giaramita]

Sorry, I have to vent somewhere. The new TREOS album has me so fucking happy.

[FinchBulldog2]

when is it officially out?

[marrost]

I can't believe the shit hasn't leaked yet.

when is it officially out?
26th

[so typical]

i really want

[Frank Giaramita]

I can't believe the shit hasn't leaked yet.


26th

I'm suprised it took them this long to send out advances, usually they're sent out a month and a half before the labum comes out. Also, the disc is copyright protected, rip proof, burn proof, and youc ant even play it on your computer. The band isn't that big at all, and I thought theyw ouldn't mind it leaking early, for hype purposes. Odd.

[Drew Beringer]

I'm suprised it took them this long to send out advances, usually they're sent out a month and a half before the labum comes out. Also, the disc is copyright protected, rip proof, burn proof, and youc ant even play it on your computer. The band isn't that big at all, and I thought theyw ouldn't mind it leaking early, for hype purposes. Odd.

Fuck, so if I buy it, I can't put it on my itunes?

[marrost]

I'm suprised it took them this long to send out advances, usually they're sent out a month and a half before the labum comes out. Also, the disc is copyright protected, rip proof, burn proof, and youc ant even play it on your computer. The band isn't that big at all, and I thought theyw ouldn't mind it leaking early, for hype purposes. Odd.
No shit? I'll buy it anyway, everything I've heard has been pretty fucking good.

[mybreakingpoint]

Fuck, so if I buy it, I can't put it on my itunes?


no you can
it's only for the pre-release date copies
those are the only ones that cant be

[urowndisaster52]

I'm suprised it took them this long to send out advances, usually they're sent out a month and a half before the labum comes out. Also, the disc is copyright protected, rip proof, burn proof, and youc ant even play it on your computer. The band isn't that big at all, and I thought theyw ouldn't mind it leaking early, for hype purposes. Odd.
why doesn't every artist protect it like that? Everyone is always upset about downloading and leaking, wouldn't that solve it all?

[marrost]

Fuck, so if I buy it, I can't put it on my itunes?
Yea shit, true that.

[mybreakingpoint]

Yea shit, true that.

see my post up there
it cant be on comps for only the pre-released copies
not the ones you buy in stores

[BustaNutz]

Ehhh, that's pretty fucking dumb. I doubt it'll be available on ITunes either. I don't really listen to CDs anymore. I have an iPod, I bought the Alpine adapter so it plays in my car and I can just stream my iTunes over my stereo in my room. So making it impossible to play on a computer (and thus an iPod) is just plain dumb. Whoever's idea it was to make the CD that way needs to be fired because TREOS is probably going to miss out on a lot of publicity.

[Drew Beringer]

no you can
it's only for the pre-release date copies
those are the only ones that cant be

Ok, thanks for clearing up my confusion. :animateds

[Pat Marquez]

I have a promo copy for Outsmarting Simon and it has all those protections to. I trried to listen it on my computer didn't work, I tried it on my CD Walkmen, didn't work. So I gave up.

I have a promo copy for The Higher as well but haven't listend. And no, I will not be sending it to anyone.

[Frank Giaramita]

I have a promo copy for Outsmarting Simon and it has all those protections to. I trried to listen it on my computer didn't work, I tried it on my CD Walkmen, didn't work. So I gave up.

I have a promo copy for The Higher as well but haven't listend. And no, I will not be sending it to anyone.

yeah, The Higher is smart though, bc they have a copyright protection advance, but they also have a secret website with a password so you can stream the whole disc on the computer if you want.

Anyway, about TREOS, everyone who says theyre "typical screamo" couldn't be any further off target with this album. Seriously, some of the wackiest shit ever as far as effects and stuff go. They have clips of other songs in other songs and really weird/random piano lines and totally weird shit. The shortest songs is over 5 minutes long and I was pleasantly suprised with how un-cliche it is...caught me off guard.

[poppa Q]

yeah, The Higher is smart though, bc they have a copyright protection advance, but they also have a secret website with a password so you can stream the whole disc on the computer if you want.

Anyway, about TREOS, everyone who says theyre "typical screamo" couldn't be any further off target with this album. Seriously, some of the wackiest shit ever as far as effects and stuff go. They have clips of other songs in other songs and really weird/random piano lines and totally weird shit. The shortest songs is over 5 minutes long and I was pleasantly suprised with how un-cliche it is...caught me off guard.


holy shit. that's awesome.

[aaronfuj]

Damn you Frank for having TREOS and not sharing it with the world (aka me ;)). I guess I'll just have to wait till the 26th, but with the hype you built up on it and the amazon.com samplers, I'm getting too anxious.

[hXc_pwnage]

TREOS?

Sounds like oreos.

[shane hennessey]

how did kevin devine leak and not TREOS, arent they on the same label?

[hXc_pwnage]

What is TREOS?

[shane hennessey]

the receiving end of sirens

[Pat Marquez]

Ehhh, that's pretty fucking dumb. I doubt it'll be available on ITunes either. I don't really listen to CDs anymore. I have an iPod, I bought the Alpine adapter so it plays in my car and I can just stream my iTunes over my stereo in my room. So making it impossible to play on a computer (and thus an iPod) is just plain dumb. Whoever's idea it was to make the CD that way needs to be fired because TREOS is probably going to miss out on a lot of publicity.
That's a shame. I love my CD's. No offense but it seems your indie Knife Party is rather digitial.

[aaronfuj]

TREOS?

Sounds like oreos.
Just as good too. And you don't need milk.

[Shellular]

the higher already leaked. so obviously their cd isnt as protected as treos.

[BustaNutz]

That's a shame. I love my CD's. No offense but it seems your indie Knife Party is rather digitial.

Haha, Well I will say two things. First of all, I do purchase the album on iTunes or the actual CD if I like it. And charity CDs like "In Honor..." I purchase as well. But all of the music goes on my iPod. It's just easier. I can control my entire iPod from the face of my deck in my car. It's like having a 1000 CD changer. It's really great.

I will say this though. Back before everything leaked early and you could get it online months in advance, when you had to physically drive to a record store and purchase an album and listen to it on the way home, I enjoyed getting new music more back then. There's something to be said for taking the wrapper off a cd and reading the liner notes as you listen to something completely new for the first time. Maybe I'll go back to that.

I don't know that KnifeParty is any more or less digital than AP.net. I don't know the inner-workings of AP, so I can't say.

[Pat Marquez]

Haha, Well I will say two things. First of all, I do purchase the album on iTunes or the actual CD if I like it. And charity CDs like "In Honor..." I purchase as well. But all of the music goes on my iPod. It's just easier. I can control my entire iPod from the face of my deck in my car. It's like having a 1000 CD changer. It's really great.

I will say this though. Back before everything leaked early and you could get it online months in advance, when you had to physically drive to a record store and purchase an album and listen to it on the way home, I enjoyed getting new music more back then. There's something to be said for taking the wrapper off a cd and reading the liner notes as you listen to something completely new for the first time. Maybe I'll go back to that.

I don't know that KnifeParty is any more or less digital than AP.net. I don't know the inner-workings of AP, so I can't say.
Oh I agree with AP too. It's sad. I love buying CD's. Oh well, I'm getting an iPod soon as well, doesn't mean I won't stop purchasing CD's. It's like a collection to me.

I guess I was more attacking the kids that claim they are "indie" or "hardcore" or "emo" or whatever other tags are out there... but they don't own over twenty CD's. Just digitial, which I don't get.

[aminorthreat55]

I'll definitely be a cd man for a long long time.

[KarolaBloch]

i love TREOS... great band.. and local. mm mm mm

[aminorthreat55]

Oh yeah and I can't wait to get this at the cd release show. It should be worth my 400 mile drive.

[KarolaBloch]

lol im going. maybe see you there

[aminorthreat55]

Damn right. I'll make a thread telling people to look for me if I go.

[BustaNutz]

Oh I agree with AP too. It's sad. I love buying CD's. Oh well, I'm getting an iPod soon as well, doesn't mean I won't stop purchasing CD's. It's like a collection to me.

I guess I was more attacking the kids that claim they are "indie" or "hardcore" or "emo" or whatever other tags are out there... but they don't own over twenty CD's. Just digitial, which I don't get.

Ahhh, well to be honest with you, and not to start another huge feud or anything. But AP.net and all of our other critics were the ones who labeled us "Indie." We rolled with it but that was never the original intention. And we don't walk around with the "Indie" stick up our asses either. I mean I think the prototypical "Indie Elitist" site is Pitchfork, and that's the exact opposite of what we try to be.

At any rate, I think very few people are "Indie" or "Hardcore" or "Emo." It's trendy to say and act on, but very few kids actually get it right. And "Emo" is nearly impossible to pull of because no one can really define what "Emo" is. I've heard 50 different definitions and they all disagree on who is and isn't "Emo."

As for CD collections. I admit I have more CDs on my computer than in my CD binder, but I do have a pretty respectable collection. I'll buy the album if I like it, as I said, and I like to think that most people would do that same. But the name of the game has changed. iTunes and Napster have changed it and music is getting more and more digital. This happened when music when from Vinyl to casette and then from casette to CD and now it's going from CD to .mp3. Pretty soon it will be probably shift to .m4a and then who knows. It's an ever-changing medium.

[hXc_pwnage]

I'm hoping that once I can get my own source of money I will start buying albums more.

It's fun going to places and just looking through every single cd and finding things. It's so much more rewarding than searching on the internet.

[Signals Corrupted]

damn frank, you cheated! you said you'd wait 'till it was released.

[Scott Weber]

I have a promo copy for Outsmarting Simon and it has all those protections to. I trried to listen it on my computer didn't work, I tried it on my CD Walkmen, didn't work. So I gave up.

I have a promo copy for The Higher as well but haven't listend. And no, I will not be sending it to anyone.
yeah I got those 2 as well. weird, dude. i hate that kinda crap, i listen to everything on my computer, even CDs I own I have downloaded for convienience