Funny

[Love As Arson]

It's funny how some staff members complain about albums leaking, yet talk about how good albums are weeks before they are released. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Stop being self-righteous pricks.

[Greg]

eh... i half agree on this....

someone needs to get stuff early so we can find out stuff about it. im not saying i always agree with the staff's reviews. but usually i agree and understand their views on the records. yes its lame i cant hear it as well.

i dunno. im kinda nuetral in the discussion.

[apoemtothedead]

Not really.

The bands distribute the albums to them with a clear statement not to distribute them. If albums quit leaking the staff could stop getting advanced copies.

[SonEric84]

hahaha Scene points for this thread.

[WakingTheMisery]

goose tastes amazing.

[dretti]

yes, and so far a lot of total shit has leaked. Thank god for leaks or else I might have just bought these albums off of horrible reccomendation (GAD)

[Pat Marquez]

I can't speak for everyone.. But I get albums all the time before they are released from Mike Cubillio's who is a publicist. So, I have the new The Higher, The Letters Organize and Outsmarting Simon. The other staff probably gets more albums, because they know more people. I don't really know anyone. Haha.

[Love As Arson]

Not really.

The bands distribute the albums to them with a clear statement not to distribute them. If albums quit leaking the staff could stop getting advanced copies.
And? They get albums early, and they are better able to critique it in hearing it as a whole, so why should I not get the same privilege with downloading.

[apoemtothedead]

And? They get albums early, and they are better able to critique it in hearing it as a whole, so why should I not get the same privilege with downloading.

That's a great idea. Let's give everyone the album, so they can critique it. I'm sure the band would sell a ton of albums then.

[Frank Giaramita]

The point of this website is to hype albums up beforehand and convince kids to buy them, hence why we receive advanced copies of discs in the mail. That's why it's done on the main page, where 2 million people a day can see it, 2 million people a day do not come in here, open up a "leaked Albums" thread and buy albums as a result of it. It's not even a valid comparison at all. Also, there isn't a single staff member on this webpage who has complained about people talking about leaked albums in these forums... not one. It's the labels/bands/managers/agents/lawyers etc. who complain about these threads... I, for one, do not give a fuck about what's talked in here, at all. If it was up to me, I'd let you guys send albums to each other through threads, I don't give a fuck... it's just the bands and labels who constantly complain about these threads... not us at all.

[dretti]

If the band is good enough, they will sell plenty. The leaks really don't affect their sales as a whole at all. Plus, a lot of people just listen to the leak because it is a leak, so the band is getting more exposure than they would have.

[apoemtothedead]

If the band is good enough, they will sell plenty. The leaks really don't affect their sales as a whole at all. Plus, a lot of people just listen to the leak because it is a leak, so the band is getting more exposure than they would have.

If I already have the cd why pay another $12 for it again?

[Frank Giaramita]

The leaks really don't affect their sales as a whole at all.
Show me proof and/or a study, with numbers, that proves this point and I will agree with you.

[Love As Arson]

That's a great idea. Let's give everyone the album, so they can critique it. I'm sure the band would sell a ton of albums then.
The people who like albums tend to buy them. That is the trend, believe it or not. Mae's album leaked weeks before it's release, and it ended up being thirty-eight on the billboard charts. If I were in a band, I'd rather someone hear it, love it, and buy it, not spend thirteen bucks on it, and hate it.

[dretti]

Well, i'm just putting my case out, I would have never listened to GAD or TREOS on a normal basis, so therefore they would have not had my money anyways, but they still did get the exposure to me. Without the leak they would have had no exposure and no money.

[apoemtothedead]

If I were in a band, I'd rather someone hear it, love it, and buy it, not spend thirteen bucks on it, and hate it.

Well I guess that's where we differ. If I were in a band I wouldn't give a shit if they liked it or not, as long as they bought it.

[VeloriumCamper]

how about we all stop arguing....have ONE leaks thread...and all be happy that we love music...

::angry screams from the crowd::

[Candy_Warhol]

The people who like albums tend to buy them. That is the trend, believe it or not. Mae's album leaked weeks before it's release, and it ended up being thirty-eight on the billboard charts. If I were in a band, I'd rather someone hear it, love it, and buy it, not spend thirteen bucks on it, and hate it.

ehh yeah i think i agree with some of that.
usually i'll download a CD to see if i like it. if i do, i'll end up buying it.
getting it off the internet isn't much different then copying it from your friend who lets you burn it.

[WakingTheMisery]

bands don't really get tons of people to buying their records until they go mainstream. maybe this is why bands are "selling out."

[apoemtothedead]

Well, i'm just putting my case out, I would have never listened to GAD or TREOS on a normal basis, so therefore they would have not had my money anyways, but they still did get the exposure to me. Without the leak they would have had no exposure and no money.

Purevolume is exposure. Myspace is exposure.

[timothy]

i just wrote a whole paper on this topic, and research has shown that downloading has barely any effect on album sales. In many cases, it causes people to go out and buy albums they wouldn't have originally bought.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

The point of this website is to hype albums up beforehand and convince kids to buy them, hence why we receive advanced copies of discs in the mail. That's why it's done on the main page, where 2 million people a day can see it, 2 million people a day do not come in here, open up a "leaked Albums" thread and buy albums as a result of it. It's not even a valid comparison at all. Also, there isn't a single staff member on this webpage who has complained about people talking about leaked albums in these forums... not one. It's the labels/bands/managers/agents/lawyers etc. who complain about these threads... I, for one, do not give a fuck about what's talked in here, at all. If it was up to me, I'd let you guys send albums to each other through threads, I don't give a fuck... it's just the bands and labels who constantly complain about these threads... not us at all.
Maybe we should just all stop arguing with the staff about it before Jason sends his lawyer after us.

[Love As Arson]

Well I guess that's where we differ. If I were in a band I wouldn't give a shit if they liked it or not, as long as they bought it.
And this is why horrible music exists.

[dretti]

Purevolume is exposure. Myspace is exposure.

I never go to either of the sites though, mainly because I think the quality is bad, and you only get to hear singles.

So me proof that it does actually hurt sales.
2 million (people or views) visit this site, don't confuse that with 15 kids sharing music.

Exactly, its not like there is a million kids sharing this shit. Its a small group.

[Frank Giaramita]

The people who like albums tend to buy them. That is the trend, believe it or not. Mae's album leaked weeks before it's release, and it ended up being thirty-eight on the billboard charts. If I were in a band, I'd rather someone hear it, love it, and buy it, not spend thirteen bucks on it, and hate it.

Yeah, I can totally understand your point. But how do you know it wouldn't have been #15 on the billboards if it didnt leak? I mean, when Mae leaked, an unmastered/un cut version of it did. So in other words, the band paid about $50k to record/rpomote etc. just to have kids hear a record that was worth $25k a few weeks earlier. That's like spending months on painting a kickass picture, just to have the sketchs revealed to the public way before hand, when everything wasn't perfect and vibrant... i'd be pissed.

So me proof that it does actually hurt sales.
2 million (people or views) visit this site, don't confuse that with 15 kids sharing music.

Do me a favor, scan through my posts, and tell me where you saw me say..."Leaking albums hurts sales...". The reason i DIDN'T say it, is because i don't have proof. But... it is illegal for a reason, is it not?

[apoemtothedead]

I never go to either of the sites though, mainly because I think the quality is bad, and you only get to hear singles.

Well aren't singles considered to be the best representation of the band?

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Yeah, I can totally understand your point. But how do you know it wouldn't have been #15 on the billboards if it didnt leak? I mean, when Mae leaked, an unmastered/un cut version of it did. So in other words, the band paid about $50k to record/rpomote etc. just to have kids hear a record that was worth $25k a few weeks earlier. That's like spending months on painting a kickass picture, just to have the sketchs revealed to the public way before hand, when everything wasn't perfect and vibrant... i'd be pissed.



Fo me a favor, scan through my posts, and tell me where you saw me say..."Leaking albums hurts sales..."
But chances are that if you like it when it sounds like shit, you'll like it even more when it's all polished up. And you know you'll like it more. So you'll take yourself to the store when it's released and BUY IT.

[dretti]

Well aren't singles considered to be the best representation of the band?

Could be, but I always find the singles to be the songs I don't like, I'm not going to buy a 15$ album to hear one good single

[WakingTheMisery]

my record store has a listening station. its quite a good investment.

[Love As Arson]

Yeah, I can totally understand your point. But how do you know it wouldn't have been #15 on the billboards if it didnt leak? I mean, when Mae leaked, an unmastered/un cut version of it did. So in other words, the band paid about $50k to record/rpomote etc. just to have kids hear a record that was worth $25k a few weeks earlier. That's like spending months on painting a kickass picture, just to have the sketchs revealed to the public way before hand, when everything wasn't perfect and vibrant... i'd be pissed.
Downloading doesn't hurt sales as much as record labels would like people to believe. As I've said, the trend is kids hear it, and if they like it, they buy it.

[timothy]

most people aren't downloading full albums like the people on this messageboard. most will download a couple songs and decide if they like what they hear. if they like it, they'll buy it. even most of the people who download the full album will go out and buy it if it's good.

[apoemtothedead]

Could be, but I always find the singles to be the songs I don't like, I'm not going to buy a 15$ album to hear one good single

But if you hear the single you have an idea of what the band sounds like, and can give a basis of there whether or not you will like them.

[Signals Corrupted]

on a side note, i gave my ex girlfriend the new kevin devine album, and she loved it. so i asked her if she would purchase it, and she said no, because why should she if she already has it. well, today i had to clean her comp to get rid of her spyware and whatnot, and i went ahead and deleted the album as well :animateds . now she'll have to purchase it.

[apoemtothedead]

Another thing with downloading music is, I hear more bands because of downloading music.
Look at this example,
Say I download a song/album from band A, I have never heard band a before. I am now a potential buyer, before I was unaware of Band A and the odds of me buying Band A's cds were slim and none.

Let's say you have band A's entire album now. Why buy it?

[Signals Corrupted]

Let's say you have band A's entire album now. Why buy it?


because band a needs to eat

[dretti]

But if you hear the single you have an idea of what the band sounds like, and can give a basis of there whether or not you will like them.

To an extent you can, but you also don't. I have bought a lot of albums off the basis of single, that I later hated because the rest of the album was all filler.

I've bought 95% of the albums I have, I support the bands I love by buying their cd's, going to shows, buying tshirts..etc...

I'm not going to support the flavor of the week featured band the same way.

[apoemtothedead]

because band a needs to eat

jeez. It was a rhetorical question.

[timothy]

Let's say you have band A's entire album now. Why buy it?
a lot of people like the real thing. the artwork, the lyrics, the whole package.

[dretti]

Let's say you have band A's entire album now. Why buy it?

Album artwork, I personally like to collect albums I love. If I love an album enough, I even buy it on vinyl.

Yes, in your question you directed to "You", which means when I reply it is with an "I"

[Frank Giaramita]

2 million (people or views) visit this site, don't confuse that with 15 kids sharing music.

Don't tell it to me... I'm not the one complaining at all... take your argument to every record label who advertises with us, because I really don't give a fucking shit what you guys do in here... at all, they do.

[apoemtothedead]

Album artwork, I personally like to collect albums I love. If I love an album enough, I even buy it on vinyl.

Notice how you use the word "I."

[Frank Giaramita]

Downloading doesn't hurt sales as much as record labels would like people to believe. As I've said, the trend is kids hear it, and if they like it, they buy it.

I have an analogy, you may call it shitty, feel free to do so...

Let say there's a pizza place that hands out free fucking pizza all day... but you could pay for it IF YOU WANT. Tell me, why in the fuck would you pay for it?

[VeloriumCamper]

a lot of people like the real thing. the artwork, the lyrics, the whole package.

i like that a whole lot better than downloading...buying a CD is SO much better than downloading...







but... CD's are too expensive...id like to go out and buy like 3 or 4 cd's at a time.... but then id be spending 70-80 bucks, id rather get it for free than spend that much money....if CD's were less money id sure as hell go out and buy them...

there is also other ways to support a band....clothes for example...going to their shows

[Love As Arson]

Don't tell it to me... I'm not the one complaining at all... take your argument to every record label who advertises with us, because I really don't give a fucking shit what you guys do in here... at all, they do.
An album being downloaded is potential capital for a band, because if a ton of kids love their album, they'll go to shows, and buy merch, which is where bands make their money.

[Signals Corrupted]

I have an analogy, you may call it shitty, feel free to do so...

Let say there's a pizza place that hands out free fucking pizza all day... but you could pay for it IF YOU WANT. Tell me, why in the fuck would you pay for it?


because some people like the real deal, with the pizza box and the receipt. woo

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

on a side note, i gave my ex girlfriend the new kevin devine album, and she loved it. so i asked her if she would purchase it, and she said no, because why should she if she already has it. well, today i had to clean her comp to get rid of her spyware and whatnot, and i went ahead and deleted the album as well :animateds . now she'll have to purchase it.
she's just a woman. they're all thrifty.

on a different note, i had over 100 burned CD's at the beginning of last summer because i love music but had no source of income to pay for all the CD's i wanted to hear. I have under 50 cd's now that I have had a steady job. Most people will buy CD's eventually, if they really like them and respect the band. I may be different but I know every time I'd start to play the CD of, for example, Fall Out Boy (they're playing on Winamp right now so I used it, easy example), I'd be like "yeah i'm robbing these guys of money right now but the music is so good". To conclude a pointless story....If people have any respect for the bands they listen to, they WILL buy the CD when they have the money to do so. Downloading doesn't hurt sales, it most likely raises them. I know I wouldn't have ever bothered to listen to half of the albums I have right now if I wouldn't have downloaded them to see if I liked them first.

[timothy]

An album being downloaded is potential capital for a band, because if a ton of kids love their album, they'll go to shows, and buy merch, which is where bands make their money.
a lot of labels don't care about the bands making money, they care about making money for themselves. which sucks.

[Frank Giaramita]

My bad, you seemed to support the record labels "best" interest.

Well, when two of my friends (im not naming names) at decently big independent labels E-mails me "dude, can you get rid of that Leaked Albums thread on ap, i feel it shurting my company".. I'm not going to say "no, oh well, tough shit". It's ONE THREAD out of the 515,000 in this forum...that's a VERY small price to pay to do a favor to someone. Ya know? I don't tihnk it's askign too much, and I really don't think it's that big of a deal at all. Sorry if you disagree, but I refuse to say "No, oh well, I don't care you think it's hurting your company"... it's just downright disrespectful, ya know?

[apoemtothedead]

a lot of labels don't care about the bands making money, they care about making money for themselves. which sucks.

Why does that suck? They're trying to make money, just as much as the bands are.

[Signals Corrupted]

she's just a woman. they're all thrifty.



yeah. she'll spend 50 bucks on a ripped piece of scrap denim that they call "a skirt", but wont spend 12 bucks on a cd she loves. :headshake women

[dretti]

This evil leak is going to cause me to buy ben folds, motion city soundtrack, and acceptance the day they come out.

[timothy]

Why does that suck? They're trying to make money, just as much as the bands are.
well i think it sucks that music is so much of a business that labels don't care about their bands as people. but it is a business.

[Love As Arson]

I have an analogy, you may call it shitty, feel free to do so...

Let say there's a pizza place that hands out free fucking pizza all day... but you could pay for it IF YOU WANT. Tell me, why in the fuck would you pay for it?
To keep the restaurant open.

[sweethypocrisy]

I have an analogy, you may call it shitty, feel free to do so...

Let say there's a pizza place that hands out free fucking pizza all day... but you could pay for it IF YOU WANT. Tell me, why in the fuck would you pay for it?
to keep the restaurant there to hand you pizza.

[apoemtothedead]

To keep the restaurant open.

What's it matter to you if that pizza place stays open? There are plenty of other ones.

[Love As Arson]

Well, when two of my friends (im not naming names) at decently big independent labels E-mails me "dude, can you get rid of that Leaked Albums thread on ap, i feel it shurting my company".. I'm not going to say "no, oh well, tough shit". It's ONE THREAD out of the 515,000 in this forum...that's a VERY small price to pay to do a favor to someone. Ya know? I don't tihnk it's askign too much, and I really don't think it's that big of a deal at all. Sorry if you disagree, but I refuse to say "No, oh well, I don't care you think it's hurting your company"... it's just downright disrespectful, ya know?
I'd tell that person that they are a moron. However, it was probably one of the indie labels with ties to major labels, like Drive-Thru's deal.

[apoemtothedead]

to keep the restaurant there to hand you pizza.

...but then it's not free.

[Love As Arson]

What's it matter to you if that pizza place stays open? There are plenty of other ones.
They make the best in the nation.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

What's it matter to you if that pizza place stays open? There are plenty of other ones.
Maybe you happen to like that "pizza place" 's product, therefore you want it to stay around?

[sweethypocrisy]

...but then it's not free.
you could pay for it one day and take it the next.

[dretti]

If you were a band like TREOS, why would you not want your album to leak? It's your debut, and the general public of about 99.9% of america does not know who the fuck you are.

Get the music out.

[Frank Giaramita]

to keep the restaurant there to hand you pizza.

Ohhh, even better, so you'd pay them just enough money to get by... when they could be making enough money to expand, make better pizza, promote themselves better through commercials, refurnish, pay employees more, etc....

[apoemtothedead]

Maybe you happen to like that "pizza place" 's product, therefore you want it to stay around?

Then why would you take their free pizza to begin with?

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

If you were a band like TREOS, why would you not want your album to leak? It's your debut, and the general public of about 99.9% of america does not know who the fuck you are.

Get the music out.
This is just like Metallica with Napster. Somewhere out there, there is a bigger band with an ample amount of money complaining that they're "losing money to downloading". Then there's hundreds of smaller bands with no say in it that know they're GAINING money from downloading but can't do anything about it....

[BuriedAlive]

The people who like albums tend to buy them. That is the trend, believe it or not. Mae's album leaked weeks before it's release, and it ended up being thirty-eight on the billboard charts. If I were in a band, I'd rather someone hear it, love it, and buy it, not spend thirteen bucks on it, and hate it.
I, for once, completely agree with Dom.

[apoemtothedead]

you could pay for it one day and take it the next.

So out of the albums you want, you're only going to take every other album that leaks?

[Frank Giaramita]

If you were a band like TREOS, why would you not want your album to leak? It's your debut, and the general public of about 99.9% of america does not know who the fuck you are.

Get the music out.

Haha, I agree with this statement wholeheartedly, I even told that to Casey when I interviewed him. It's not my decision or place to decide whether it should leak or not though, ya know? It's the bands and labels. I do believe leaking has it's benefits though, and TREOS is one of those bands I think that would benefit.

[sweethypocrisy]

Ohhh, even better, so you'd pay them just enough money to get by... when they could be making enough money to expand, make better pizza, promote themselves better through commercials, refurnish, pay employees more, etc....
see thats bullshit, because record companies dont do that. they take the extra money and put it right in the managers pockets so they can keep their BMW's and gold bathtubs.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Then why would you take their free pizza to begin with?
Well maybe it's a new pizza place. that's why its handing out its product, to GAIN SUPPORT and FUTURE CUSTOMERS. Maybe when you get the money you need to purchase its pizza instead of trying a sample of it, you'd buy it.

[Signals Corrupted]

see thats bullshit, because record companies dont do that. they take the extra money and put it right in the managers pockets so they can keep their BMW's and gold bathtubs.


gold bathtubs? gaaaay

[Frank Giaramita]

see thats bullshit, because record companies dont do that. they take the extra money and put it right in the managers pockets so they can keep their BMW's and gold bathtubs.

Hahahaha, that's your opinion, but most independent labels don't have ANY money whatsoever to buy luxurious things. At all.

[Tony Pascarella]

I talked to Travis of GCH and William of TAI the other night and asked them both the same question, what did they think about leaks. Travis basically said that it's good for small bands like GCH because it opened up a new audience for them. William said for small bands, it's good, but if you're Eminem, it hurts. He also said that it will eventually kill rock and roll.

Two interesting takes, I thought.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

gold bathtubs? gaaaay
now i'm waiting for someone to be like "managers dont have that much money. trust me, i know one." it always seems someone knows WHOEVER the subject is around here....

[timothy]

This is just like Metallica with Napster. Somewhere out there, there is a bigger band with an ample amount of money complaining that they're "losing money to downloading". Then there's hundreds of smaller bands with no say in it that know they're GAINING money from downloading but can't do anything about it....
yea, metallica is one of a few bands that owns the rights to all their of the music. which means they actually make money off all their albums sold. that's why they were so pissed off about the napster thing.

[Signals Corrupted]

now i'm waiting for someone to be like "managers dont have that much money. trust me, i know one." it always seems someone knows WHOEVER the subject is around here....

lol hey man i was mostly joking with that post.. i just think gold bathtubs are homosexual.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

lol hey man i was mostly joking with that post.. i just think gold bathtubs are homosexual.
that wasnt directed toward you i just figured someone would actually say something like that.

[Frank Giaramita]

now i'm waiting for someone to be like "managers dont have that much money. trust me, i know one." it always seems someone knows WHOEVER the subject is around here....

Well, managers tend to make about 15-20% of total earnings that the band makes. Unless that manager is part of a solid agency, then they get steady salaries... like Nettwerk. So, for the most part, if the band is losing money, so is the manager...

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

yea, metallica is one of a few bands that owns the rights to all their of the music. which means they actually make money off all their albums sold. that's why they were so pissed off about the napster thing.
like they haven't made enough money in 20 years? Jason knew what was up, thats why he left the band.

[apoemtothedead]

Dude I know a record label owner. He has no money at all.

[timothy]

like they haven't made enough money in 20 years? Jason knew what was up, thats why he left the band.
tru yo.

[Love As Arson]

Downloading is going to save rock and roll. Mark my words.

[sweethypocrisy]

Hahahaha, that's your opinion, but most independent labels don't have ANY money whatsoever to buy luxurious things. At all.
yeah but most bands/labels that are against downloading and take action against it are bigger labels. indie labels are glad because then the band gets checked out, and if they liked it they will most likely buy it, buy future releases and goto shows and buy merch.

[SonEric84]

Downloading is going to save rock and roll. Mark my words.


Hopefully only the stuff that deserves to be saved.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Dude I know a record label owner. He has no money at all.
Okay, now get more specific about this record label. Do the bands suck? How many are on the label? Are there plenty of other labels around?....there's always a cause if a business doesn't make money....

[sweethypocrisy]

aslo, i talked to my mom about this, and she isnt any industry bigwig or anything but she said that its not gonna hurt. mainly because people said copying with tapes, and ripping songs to tape off the radio would destroy the industry years ago and they say it about p2p networks now.

[apoemtothedead]

Okay, now get more specific about this record label. Do the bands suck? How many are on the label? Are there plenty of other labels around?....there's always a cause if a business doesn't make money....

I don't actually. I was just being "that guy."

[Love As Arson]

Hopefully only the stuff that deserves to be saved.
Bands with substance will survive. Those without will not.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I don't actually. I was just being "that guy."
ah you're a whore! :soapbox:

Bands with substance will survive. Those without will not.
Then how come Never Heard Of It is still around polluting everyone's ears even though they've been unsigned since like, the Eisenhower Administration?

[a typicalcliche]

to hear. I have under 50 cd's now that I have had a steady job. Most people will buy CD's eventually, if they really like them and resp

they pay for 800 dollars hair extensions :headshake

[sweethypocrisy]

Bands with substance will survive. Those without will not.
doubtttttttt it. listen to the radio for 10 min, do you hear substance?

[a typicalcliche]

to hear. I have under 50 cd's now that I have had a steady job. Most people will buy CD's eventually, if they really like them and resp

they pay for 800 dollars hair extensions :headshake

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

doubtttttttt it. listen to the radio for 10 min, do you hear substance?
....occasionally you do..... or if you find the classic rock station.

[apoemtothedead]

doubtttttttt it. listen to the radio for 10 min, do you hear substance?

How long have these people been around?

Look what happened to boy bands.

[Love As Arson]

doubtttttttt it. listen to the radio for 10 min, do you hear substance?
Downloading isn't prevalent in society, yet.

[SonEric84]

This thread is actually pretty interesting.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

How long have these people been around?

Look what happened to boy bands.
but then again when i turn on my radio i get Toronto's rock station, I get the Killers, U2 (thankfully most of it is older which is better), Billy Talent, NIN, Weezer, DFA1979(yes!!!)....but when you go to Buffalo's rock station you get like Linkin Park, Crossfade, Slipknot and other assorted garbage. The point? Canada pwns.

[Signals Corrupted]

they pay for 800 dollars hair extensions :headshake


haha yeah its true

[Samuel]

we get crossfade, three doors down, and slipknot on our station..and the occasional weezer, blink182, and new fall out boy song

[SonEric84]

I don't even listen to the radio anymore, except at work sometimes out of boredom..but the station I listen to there plays 70's, 80's, and early 90's stuff.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I don't even listen to the radio anymore, except at work sometimes out of boredom..but the station I listen to there plays 70's, 80's, and early 90's stuff.
i work in a kitchen at a country club and they have the perfect station on there, it plays both classic and newer rock but its alright because of the balance....yeah, that was useless.

[sweethypocrisy]

we get nin, fall out boy, weezer, the black maria, taking back sunday, brand new, finch, rise against, the used, my chemical romance, coheed etc. but thats cause i am barely in the listening area for 89x detroit which is the number 2 alternative station in america next to kroq in cali.

[SonEric84]

i work in a kitchen at a country club and they have the perfect station on there, it plays both classic and newer rock but its alright because of the balance....yeah, that was useless.

haha Sounds pretty decent though. I just need some noise sometimes.

[FinchBulldog2]

The people who like albums tend to buy them. That is the trend, believe it or not. Mae's album leaked weeks before it's release, and it ended up being thirty-eight on the billboard charts. If I were in a band, I'd rather someone hear it, love it, and buy it, not spend thirteen bucks on it, and hate it.
If it wasn't for leaks, I would have bought the following albums that I didn't:
Unwritten Law's new one (didnt like it)
The Black Maria (didn't want to pay for it)
The Academy Is... (I liked it, but why pay for it?)
and a shit load of other albums

[SonEric84]

If it wasn't for leaks, I would have bought the following albums that I didn't:
Unwritten Law's new one (didnt like it)
The Black Maria (didn't want to pay for it)
The Academy Is... (I liked it, but why pay for it?)
and a shit load of other albums


lol Shh you're not supposed to tell them that. ;)

[smalltownsburn]

The Academy Is... (I liked it, but why pay for it?)
LOL, the whole point is to buy it if you like it, retard.

[FinchBulldog2]

LOL, the whole point is to buy it if you like it, retard.
I buy stuff I like alot. I like that cd, but it's not in my favorites.

[jaimej]

I've made this statement numerous times, whats once more. There are many other ways to support a band other than buying their albums. Though I do buy some, I'd rather support a band by going to numerous shows, and buying tshirts and whatnot. Why waste the money on something you may not like when you can get it for free and essentially become a huge fan of a band you otherwise may have never heard of.

[Mercy Medical]

I can understand what Dom is saying. It's like if someone is sitting and eating cake and talking about how good the cake is right in front of your face...you're going to want a slice...

Haha, that was a fun little analogy. :)

[jaimej]

I can understand what Dom is saying. It's like if someone is sitting and eating cake and talking about how good the cake is right in front of your face...you're going to want a slice...

Haha, that was a fun little analogy.
That's a really good analogy actually. But now I want cake. Haha.

[Drew Beringer]

Every leak that I have, I have bought when it has release, or I am planning to when it releases. (Well, except for the ASL, but shit like that doesn't deserve my money.)

But yeah, for me, sometimes I don't have money to buy a certain album when it releases, therefore the leak keeps me satisfied til I have enough money to buy it, cause buying albums is one of my hobbies, I love having the actual thing.