TSL Post New Song

[Frank Giaramita]

The Starting Line (www.thestartinglinerock.com) have posted "Inspired By The $" on their pureVOLUME.com (www.purevolume.com/thestartingline). This song is off the band's upcoming album, Based On A True Story, which hits shelves May 10th.

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[invincibleXL]

sweet

[writethewrxng]

so good

[FourStarters]

It certainly doesn't sound like the TSL I've known for a few years, but it's still awesome. The guitar work is leaps and bounds past anything they've done before. If not for Kenny's vocals, I'd go so far to say this could be mistaken for any modern rock hit you'd hear a million times a day.

[TaySavesTheDay]

wow this song surprised me... its really good... has a more mature feel to it.

This cd really does have potential to be one of the best of the year.

[Codered11]

wow....not at all what i was expecting...its really good im just in the state of shock. I knew this cd would be good but this song def. took it up another notch. Made me that much more excited

[dumbcorey]

this is better than the other two songs on PV

[SlowDescent]

good stuff....

[bradsonemanband]

the little bridge thing reminds me LOTS of something Say Anything would do. i agree with FourStarters though: the music sounds like something that every band has been doing lately. its not bad, just a tad unoriginal. but im not complaining or anything, i like this song a lot and im even more stoked for the new album now! yesssss!

[david840]

This album is going to be great. This album is prob going to be one of the best of the year. This year has been great so far; Gatsby's American Dream, Mae, Motion City Soundtrack, The Academy Is..., and Copeland.

[afk999]

I like it a lot

[Adeniz19]

i think its good. kinda reminds me of the way midtown went.... or not? i dunno

[onelastriot]

It's pretty good. Can't say I like them as much as I used to though. I don't know why.

[LDub]

damn that was hot

[PaperclipAnemia]

This album is going to be great. This album is prob going to be one of the best of the year. This year has been great so far; Gatsby's American Dream, Mae, Motion City Soundtrack, The Academy Is..., and Copeland.

to add to that list....Bloc Party, Beck, Hot Hot Heat, The Decemberists, Alkaline Trio.

Also...Big props for the song I'm real. Even after 3 years....that song is still catchy as hell.

[Nate_RAWKS]

interesting

[tenmmowned]

damn... this shit is way catchy and the guitar work fucking hits you... ive never really liked their older stuff... but this is making me think about getting the new cd... damn

[brooklynburning]

i think its good. kinda reminds me of the way midtown went.... or not? i dunno

i agree, it defiently reminded me a bit of recent midtown

[FourStarters]

I've got a feeling that "Based On A True Story" could be TSL's "Deja Entendu", that album that everyone wants to see them make. It's such a change from anything they've done before, but I'm a fan. TSL released a super solid album in SILYMI, but this is the album they needed to make. This song can go hand in hand with any of a half dozen bands that people are crazy about now (Jimmy Eat World, anyone?).

I still want to hear "Ready".

[thenewline]

it reminds me alittle bit of old say anything.i really enjoy it!!i think they have matured alote from say it like you mean it.

[Ryan0190M]

Am i the only one who doesn't really like this song that much, they coulda did alot more expeirmental stuff with the chorus, im not into it, maybe it's just me.. :headshake

[akster]

ripped ;)

[TheGreenSeas]

this band will always be amazing. this song is very good. although it is slightly different for the starting line, it still holds true to their original sound.
yes, some people will hate this song and for some reason, many so-called 'scene' kids hate the starting line. however, this cd will sell tons...mark my word.
(if you don't like this song, don't worry. no other song will sound like this one)

"Prediction: This Song Will Surpise Some People" - Jason Tate

[NFG4ever]

Am i the only one who doesn't really like this song that much, they coulda did alot more expeirmental stuff with the chorus, im not into it, maybe it's just me.. :headshake
I don't like it that much either ... I expected better ......

[noles05]

The Starting Line's (www.thestartinglinerock.com) "Inspired By The $"

Super. :)

[poppa Q]

I dig.

[Scuba Chris]

It certainly doesn't sound like the TSL I've known for a few years, but it's still awesome. The guitar work is leaps and bounds past anything they've done before. If not for Kenny's vocals, I'd go so far to say this could be mistaken for any modern rock hit you'd hear a million times a day.


I definitely agree that the guitar work is really so far ahead of what I have come to expect from TSL.
I don't mind Kenny's vocals though, thats probably more of a personal preference thing.
All in all, very excellent song, and I am pumped for Based on a True Story.
Hopefully the scenesters won't start hating on TSL just because everyone is praising thier new album.

[spitfire6647]

not bad, i am dying to hear ready though , i hope they put it up on pure volume

[atouchoverrated]

I'm digging what i'm hearing from this album so far. I think this cd along with FOB's is going to be the soundtrack to a lot of peoples summers around here.

[veronabryce]

Very different than anything they've ever done, but I still love it! 2 Thumbs up!!

[nachoabalaffa]

these three songs are all fucking brilliant in their own right. i cant help but notice that kenny has mixed elements of many different bands making him the 'best-of' everything:

say anything;
the music and vocals in the breakdown of 'inspired' is soo max but im loving it for all its worth. the fact that max is on the cd doesnt help hide this, haha

death cab for cutie;
listen to the beginning (demo version of) 'photography' by tsl and then listen to the death cab song 'passenger seat'. the vocals and guitars in the tsl song follow the exact same pattern as death cab's piano and vocals. once again, they do it very well and i couldnt be more excited to hear this tsl cd. kudos, kenny

i dont think that ken is intentionally ripping off bands but im sure he is just heavily influenced (as all writers can be) by bands like death cab and say anything which shines through heavily in these songs. on the bright side, these three songs are probably the best and most exciting music i have heard in a long long time. this is probably the one cd i will actually pay for this year, haha

[jusscali]

not very impressed...yeah the song is OK and yeah it sure sounds slightly more mature, but i think it was well said when someone said how it sounded like any other modern rock song that u can hear today. I really like this band, but i dont want them to leave behind their old style. This song is good for those who may not have dug the last efforts, but for someone who likes the catchy pop punky tsl this song just shows they are prob not gonna be the same anymore

[bnizzle182]

This song is amazing...I don't really think anything else needs to be said other than...

WHEN WILL THIS CD LEAK?!

I guess TREOS will just have to do for now :boldred: :pinkie:

[supadupa003]

I'm in love with it...I didn't really know what to expect from this song. And the bridge of this song is so reminiscient of Say Anything, but if you are going to be heavily influenced by a style, I'm glad it was them. Everything I've heard from this album, I'm really digging and hoping it only gets better from here.

[WSUskee]

the sound is way different than before but I think the songs will grow on me and I will pick it up on may 10th. As for Midtown I liked there old song so much more than the latest by them.

[Fullcollapse3k]

I think it's awesome. They've matured without completely abandoning the basis of their sound. Very cool. :thumbsup:

[muzik4lyf5000]

good stuff the last line sounds so much like say anything

[AlkTrio205]

In a word:

MxPx.

[irthesteve]

i've never been that big of a starting line fan, but im liking the new stuff alot more than i thought i would

[beauty is dead]

anyone have a good rip?

if you do please IM me @ funeralforyou7

thanks.

[TSLManager]

have you ever heard MXPX?


In a word:

MxPx.

[AlkTrio205]

have you ever heard MXPX?

Yes.

And this is the same bland unoriginal punk rock that they put out on their last album.

[contagiousxkiss]

i like it a lot better than bedroom talk .. im excited for the rest of the album

[Jason Tate]

Yes.

And this is the same bland unoriginal punk rock that they put out on their last album.
What? LOL.. tell me what song on Before Everything and After sounds like this. ... seriously, cause they're my favorite band, i've been listneing to them for years -- and i can't name one mxpx song that sounds like this at all... i could compare it to some other bands, but not mxpx.

[TSLManager]

Next time listen to the song first.

Hate the song all you want but your comparison doesnt make any sense at all.


Yes.

And this is the same bland unoriginal punk rock that they put out on their last album.

[noles05]

What? LOL.. tell me what song on Before Everything and After sounds like this. ... seriously, cause they're my favorite band, i've been listneing to them for years -- and i can't name one mxpx song that sounds like this at all... i could compare it to some other bands, but not mxpx.
he speaks.

[AlkTrio205]

What? LOL.. tell me what song on Before Everything and After sounds like this. ... seriously, cause they're my favorite band, i've been listneing to them for years -- and i can't name one mxpx song that sounds like this at all... i could compare it to some other bands, but not mxpx.

Maybe you should listen to the album, and the listen to the new TSL album.

I can't believe people here actually have the gall to compare this to Deja Entendu.

Kenny Vasoli is not Jesse Lacey.

He shouldn't try to be.

This band was good because they wrote catchy, sincere pop-punk.

Trying to be edgy and hip is a joke.

They don't have what it takes to pull it off.

[splatoutofluck]

i just had an eargasm

[ishotthepilot]

hmm, this is kind of a Ben Jorgensen 'Stay On the Ground'-esque change in vocals, i wonder if a lot of the songs are going to be like this? let's call it a 'rock' sound? i've got to say i'm impressed.

and maybe it's cause i was just listening to Volcano, but does this remind anyone else of Gatsbys American Dream, as if TSL had been listening to them and then went and wrote a song? huh.

i guess we shouldn't be suprised, poppunk dudes all year/the past couple of years have been discovering that they're male and can get angry and don't always have to sing in a girly tenor voice.

[KarateExplosion]

someone should let them know that they tuned to "Suck".

[AlkTrio205]

Next time listen to the song first.

Hate the song all you want but your comparison doesnt make any sense at all.

Yes it does.

Two pop-punk bands that went from playing what they were good at to playing boring shit that you can find all over the Modern Rock charts.

Bland, bland, and more bland.

[KarateExplosion]

also, that bedroom talk song makes me cringe. 14 year old kids should not be singing along to that shit.

the new fall out boy record owns on this times 50.

[Jason Tate]

Maybe you should listen to the album, and the listen to the new TSL album.

I can't believe people here actually have the gall to compare this to Deja Entendu.

Kenny Vasoli is not Jesse Lacey.

He shouldn't try to be.

This band was good because they wrote catchy, sincere pop-punk.

Trying to be edgy and hip is a joke.

They don't have what it takes to pull it off.
eh, okay.. i will .. i have both - and musically they are not even close to the same .. at all.

and do me a favor - go check out the "modern rock charts" (let me know if you can't find them) and point out the bands that sound like TSL and hell, even MXPX on there .. there should be 6 or 7 or even 20 if they are "all over" those charts.

it may be bland to you ... but at least compare it to something it sounds like.

Maybe you should listen to the album, and the listen to the new TSL album.

I can't believe people here actually have the gall to compare this to Deja Entendu.

Kenny Vasoli is not Jesse Lacey.

He shouldn't try to be.

This band was good because they wrote catchy, sincere pop-punk.

Trying to be edgy and hip is a joke.

They don't have what it takes to pull it off.
Do you have the whole CD? Cause .... then you'd know how much of the album has some very poppy tunes on it .. they didn't go "edgy" or "dark" - so making an assumption off of one song, is absurd.

[Nate_RAWKS]

In a word:

MxPx.



What? LOL.. tell me what song on Before Everything and After sounds like this. ... seriously, cause they're my favorite band, i've been listneing to them for years -- and i can't name one mxpx song that sounds like this at all... i could compare it to some other bands, but not mxpx.


I couldn't think of one either i was actually considering that he just put that reply in the wrong topic. You know it's late the booze and drugs are flying :headshake

MXPX is one of my favorite bands and i just can't hear it but hey that's just my opinion of course.

[Jason Tate]

also, that bedroom talk song makes me cringe. 14 year old kids should not be singing along to that shit.

the new fall out boy record owns on this times 50.
very different styles .. both i guess "pop-punk" .. but the albums are completely different...

[smalltownsburn]

Kenny could be the Geddy Lee of my time. Except Geddy Lee was alot better if that made sense.

[AlkTrio205]

eh, okay.. i will .. i have both - and musically they are not even close to the same .. at all.

and do me a favor - go check out the "modern rock charts" (let me know if you can't find them) and point out the bands that sound like TSL and hell, even MXPX on there .. there should be 6 or 7 or even 20 if they are "all over" those charts.

it may be bland to you ... but at least compare it to something it sounds like.

Yes Tate, two pop-punk bands that play nothing but power chords don't sound alike at all.

I like both these bands, and I like plenty of other pop-punk bands that do the same thing, and I can admit that.

However, the three demos from the TSL album I've heard are boring. Just like the last MxPx album.

eh, okay.. i will .. i have both - and musically they are not even close to the same .. at all.

and do me a favor - go check out the "modern rock charts" (let me know if you can't find them) and point out the bands that sound like TSL and hell, even MXPX on there .. there should be 6 or 7 or even 20 if they are "all over" those charts.

it may be bland to you ... but at least compare it to something it sounds like.


Do you have the whole CD? Cause .... then you'd know how much of the album has some very poppy tunes on it .. they didn't go "edgy" or "dark" - so making an assumption off of one song, is absurd.

We all know you get albums early. You can stop giving your ego a handjob now.

Frank asked for feedback in the replies. So I'm going on what I've heard. Crazy idea, eh?

[mattregan]

Lyrics anyone??? I would give scene points if I had them, but people hate my love for finch, remember maine, and :po: my dislike for copeland

[Jason Tate]

Yes Tate, two pop-punk bands that play nothing but power chords don't sound alike at all.

I like both these bands, and I like plenty of other pop-punk bands that do the same thing, and I can admit that.

However, the three demos from the TSL album I've heard are boring. Just like the last MxPx album.



We all know you get albums early. You can stop giving your ego a handjob now.

Frank asked for feedback in the replies. So I'm going on what I've heard. Crazy idea, eh?
wow. issues much? write out some of the chords for me .. i'm curious how good you are at tabbing things.. then show me some of the same chord progression in an mxpx song .. it shouldn't be hard if they're so similar .. but i can't do it .. mxpx compared to greenday .. or tsl compared to nfg - that i see ..

[LPMagic]

Why is everyone comparing bands? Why not just enjoy or ignore the music instead of trying to figure what band A sounds like band B?

- Jeff

[smalltownsburn]

Guys give it up, really.

[classicjazz123]

bring this album onto the world already

[Adeniz19]

Yes it does.

Two pop-punk bands that went from playing what they were good at to playing boring shit that you can find all over the Modern Rock charts.

Bland, bland, and more bland.
i think you can put the new alkaline trio in that same "modern rock" category. just give it a rest already

[Nate_RAWKS]

Why is everyone comparing bands? Why not just enjoy or ignore the music instead of trying to figure what band A sounds like band B?

- Jeff


Because that's what we do.

I'm on your side though because for me:
It's all about the music.

[smalltownsburn]

Good music is good music. And who the fuck cares if it sounds like another band..

[Nate_RAWKS]

Good music is good music. And who the fuck cares if it sounds like another band..


LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

exactly...

[smalltownsburn]

LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

exactly...
Hahaha, take me to Bamboozle..i'll meet you on the DVP? or the QEW? or the 401?

[reel big puck]

I just dont like it. I'm usually a fan of change in bands, but this just doesn't hit me the right way...Oh well

[AlkTrio205]

wow. issues much? write out some of the chords for me .. i'm curious how good you are at tabbing things.. then show me some of the same chord progression in an mxpx song .. it shouldn't be hard if they're so similar .. but i can't do it .. mxpx compared to greenday .. or tsl compared to nfg - that i see ..

I believe you were the one who had to point out twice in the same argument that you had already listened to the album despite the fact that I mentioned that I knew you had beforehand.

I'll admit, you guys suckered me in off what I really meant.

And no, I'm not going to break down chords for you.

If you want to consider that a win, congrats. Here's a gold star.

The MxPx comparison was towards how both bands have lost what made them special. This music isn't fun. It's boring. It's not sincere. It's an attempt to sound more mature which does not work.

[Nate_RAWKS]

Hahaha, take me to Bamboozle..i'll meet you on the DVP? or the QEW? or the 401?


I'll tell the bus driver if he wants to make a few extra bucks to stop so we can throw you on the roof. Meet me on the Q.E.W. Wednesday around 10:00 pm

[puNk_tHeoRy]

Why is everyone comparing bands? Why not just enjoy or ignore the music instead of trying to figure what band A sounds like band B?

- Jeff

wow the first intelligent thing anyone has said on this thread.

As for the new song, It's a different sound that I can definatly get use to.

[AlkTrio205]

i think you can put the new alkaline trio in that same "modern rock" category. just give it a rest already

I haven't listened to it.

Holding out.

I'll admit, From Here To Infirmary and Good Mourning were steps towards that.

However, The Trio are better at it than most bands.

And in my opinion, all those other bands.

[Nate_RAWKS]

If you want to consider that a win, congrats. Here's a gold star.


http://photobucket.com/albums/v187/e2ek1el/th_GoldStar.jpg

[muzik4lyf5000]

Kenny could be the Geddy Lee of my time. Except Geddy Lee was alot better if that made sense.

kenny= claudio

[smalltownsburn]

I'll tell the bus driver if he wants to make a few extra bucks to stop so we can throw you on the roof. Meet me on the Q.E.W. Wednesday around 10:00 pm
Any hot chicks? I'm only 16, just got first hair on ball and would like to see some hot 19 year old girls, no? Haha.

[splitsecond]

Two things:

(1) Bedroom talk is the stupidest song ever written.

(2) Kenny's hair looks funny.

[jynxedheart]

i dont see how people are comparing this to MXPX at all. this is absolutely 10x better than anything MXPX has ever written. and to the statement about power chords, this song doesnt have any. play it and tab it out you moron and realize that you are wrong.

i think that this song shows a lot of promise for the rest of the CD. has a great gatsbys/june feel with its mathy tempos. im quite a fan

[Nate_RAWKS]

Any hot chicks? I'm only 16, just got first hair on ball and would like to see some hot 19 year old girls, no? Haha.


I'll see what i can do....If worse comes to worse you can have my girlfriend she's pretty cute and i'll find something for myself...:headshake

(i would never do this i'm just jokin')

[AlkTrio205]

i dont see how people are comparing this to MXPX at all. this is absolutely 10x better than anything MXPX has ever written. and to the statement about power chords, this song doesnt have any. play it and tab it out you moron and realize that you are wrong.

i think that this song shows a lot of promise for the rest of the CD. has a great gatsbys/june feel with its mathy tempos. im quite a fan

You should pay more attention to the rhythm guitar.

[smalltownsburn]

I'll see what i can do....If worse comes to worse you can have my girlfriend she's pretty cute and i'll find something for myself...:headshake

(i would never do this i'm just jokin')
Haha, I wouldn't expect you too. I figured I'd have some fun with the fact that we both live in Toronto.

You should pay more attention to the rhythm guitar.
Holy fuck, GIVE IT UP..out of all the power-chorded songs in the entire fuckin world chances are one song might have the same progression as another, you know JUST MAYBE.

[Nate_RAWKS]

Haha, I wouldn't expect you too. I figured I'd have some fun with the fact that we both live in Toronto.


Holy fuck, GIVE IT UP..out of all the power-chorded songs in the entire fuckin world chances are one song might have the same progression as another, you know JUST MAYBE.


yeah we live in a cool city.

You know what else is cool:
The Starting Line

[AlkTrio205]

Haha, I wouldn't expect you too. I figured I'd have some fun with the fact that we both live in Toronto.


Holy fuck, GIVE IT UP..out of all the power-chorded songs in the entire fuckin world chances are one song might have the same progression as another, you know JUST MAYBE.

According to him, there are no power chords in this song.

None.

Whatsoever.

[Cleanplateclub]

Liked it

[jynxedheart]

According to him, there are no power chords in this song.

None.

Whatsoever.

what is your clarification of a power chord? isnt it really just a chord all together that is for lazier people to play so its easier to play on stage? what is your malfunction? is it really hurting you this hard to admit that this is a good song?

[mattregan]

So I guess thats a no, on the lyrics part then... Oh well, this is still a kickass song...

[ailing]

i really like it... also i like the $ sign. can't wait for the cd

[steve-0]

every band has power chords. who cares.

im not crazy about this song. sounds like theyre trying too hard to sound different. maybe itll grow on me. who knows.

[IAmCountryMusic]

meh, they used to be my favorite band
but now... :-/
theyre much better, but i just dont love them as much

[Fullcollapse3k]

I'll see what i can do....If worse comes to worse you can have my girlfriend she's pretty cute and i'll find something for myself...:headshake

How selfless. :thumbsup:

[Frank Giaramita]

If you judge a song based on difficulty you're quite possibly the biggest fucking moron on the face of this entire fucking planet. DIFFICULTY MEANS SHIT IN MUSIC. The greatest fucking songs ever written are the most basic and simple ones... "less is more".. it's a saying that has been used for decades in song-writing. If difficulty determined whether a song was good or not, jazz and blues would be dominating the radios TV's and major label rosters. end of story. DIFFICULTY MEANS JACK SHIT...SOUND IS EVERYTHING. Eddie van Halen, the greatest guitarist who ever lived, used power chords in every single Van Halen song ever written...

[Nate_RAWKS]

How selfless. :thumbsup:

Well, as a Canadian it's our duty to be as nice as possible. So giving out my girlfriend for a night is nothing new. :huh:

If you judge a song based on difficulty you're quite possibly the biggest fucking moron on the face of this entire fucking planet. DIFFICULTY MEANS SHIT IN MUSIC. The greatest fucking songs ever written are the most basic and simple ones... "less is more".. it's a saying that has been used for decades in song-writing. If difficulty determined whether a song was good or not, jazz and blues would be dominating the radios TV's and major label rosters. end of story. DIFFICULTY MEANS JACK SHIT...SOUND IS EVERYTHING. Eddie van Halen, the greatest guitarist who ever lived, used power chords in every single Van Halen song ever written...


Someone pissed Frank off!!!!!

[AlkTrio205]

If you judge a song based on difficulty you're quite possibly the biggest fucking moron on the face of this entire fucking planet. DIFFICULTY MEANS SHIT IN MUSIC. The greatest fucking songs ever written are the most basic and simple ones... "less is more".. it's a saying that has been used for decades in song-writing. If difficulty determined whether a song was good or not, jazz and blues would be dominating the radios TV's and major label rosters. end of story. DIFFICULTY MEANS JACK SHIT...SOUND IS EVERYTHING. Eddie van Halen, the greatest guitarist who ever lived, used power chords in every single Van Halen song ever written...

Seriously, if this is towards me, look at my username.

Look at it.

Keep looking.

Look at it a little more.

Take a couple seconds to blink.

Now look a little more.

Figure the point out yet?

Some of you folks have the most awful ability at comprehending things.

Did I say there was anything wrong with it being simple?

NO.

In fact, I liked The Starting Line better when they were simpler.

YOU asked for thoughts, and I gave mine.

I don't like the new direction this band is going in.

I just didn't flat out say it.

I made a comparison.

Many of you failed to understand it.

You all jumped down my throat before I could explain it.

If all of you are going to become disgruntled over the fact that one irrelevant person doesn't like the new TSL songs, take some Lithium or something.

[Fullcollapse3k]

If you judge a song based on difficulty you're quite possibly the biggest fucking moron on the face of this entire fucking planet. DIFFICULTY MEANS SHIT IN MUSIC. The greatest fucking songs ever written are the most basic and simple ones... "less is more".. it's a saying that has been used for decades in song-writing. If difficulty determined whether a song was good or not, jazz and blues would be dominating the radios TV's and major label rosters. end of story. DIFFICULTY MEANS JACK SHIT...SOUND IS EVERYTHING. Eddie van Halen, the greatest guitarist who ever lived, used power chords in every single Van Halen song ever written...

That's a great post. Even though I really think that this song shows a lot of growth and talent in their sound, and it's a lot 'better' than any track off Say It Like You Mean It, I could take at least a handful of songs off of SILYMI that I probably like quite a bit more.

But it's not like this is anti-TSL or something.

[Frank Giaramita]

Seriously, if this is towards me, look at my username.

Look at it.

Keep looking.

Look at it a little more.

Take a couple seconds to blink.

Now look a little more.

Figure the point out yet?

Some of you folks have the most awful ability at comprehending things.

Did I say there was anything wrong with it being simple?

NO.

In fact, I liked The Starting Line better when they were simpler.

YOU asked for thoughts, and I gave mine.

I don't like the new direction this band is going in.

I just didn't flat out say it.

I made a comparison.

Many of you failed to understand it.

You all jumped down my throat before I could explain it.

If all of you are going to become disgruntled over the fact that one irrelevant person doesn't like the new TSL songs, take some Lithium or something.


Take it easy Robert Frost, this isn't a fucking poetry contest, write replies like a normal person and not like an annoying one. My post was not directed towards you at all, i was speaking in general. However, if it WAS directed towards you, I would've clicked the little "Reply" button at the bottom of your post... because that's actually what it's used for (kind of like right now). Also, I took a look at your username like you told me to and the only conclusion I came to was that it sucks, you should probably consider changing it.

[Jason Tate]

Take it easy Robert Frost, this isn't a fucking poetry contest, write replies like a normal person and not like an annoying one. My post was not directed towards you at all, i was speaking in general. However, if it WAS directed towards you, I would've clicked the little "Reply" button at the bottom of your post... because that's actually what it's used for (kind of like right now). Also, I took a look at your username like you told me to and the only conclusion I came to was that it sucks, you should probably consider changing it.
that is the funniest post i have ever read frank .. seriously, u've had some good ones - thats the best.

[btbam > you]

i love it. a lot.

[akster]

i love the blues

[splitsecond]

Take it easy Robert Frost, this isn't a fucking poetry contest, write replies like a normal person and not like an annoying one. My post was not directed towards you at all, i was speaking in general. However, if it WAS directed towards you, I would've clicked the little "Reply" button at the bottom of your post... because that's actually what it's used for (kind of like right now). Also, I took a look at your username like you told me to and the only conclusion I came to was that it sucks, you should probably consider changing it.

HAHAHA! I think I just peed a little.

[underoathfob55]

wow i was definitly not expecting something like this. although i do love silymi, i think this is a good step forward.now i cant wait any longer to hear this cd.kenny has been listening to a lot of say anything though, u can tell.

[s.deel.besonym]

Well, I gotta say, I used to be a little ashamed of liking TSL. This song shows maturity and growth that I can be proud of them for.

Surprise, Surprise, although older, I just gave it a real chance.. I like the contrast between old style and new. Very nice. Kenny isn't half bad, lyrically.

[QTheDangerMusic]

this song is freakin fucking good...my interest is indeed piqued

[p, FRY]

agreed on all the positive posts.

i am very impressed by what has been released so far. cant wait for this CD to drop.


-Glenn

[smokedsanity]

I don't like the song, it sounds like modern mtv rock with a higher voice. I loved Say It Like You Mean It because it was fun, this...is not. Oh well, their decision. Yeah, and you're idea that it being a TV and radio success makes it the "best songs" pretty much sucks. Most of the music on here gets little radio or TV time but apparently that whats makes it good right? ~Jazz and blues would be on the radio and all if difficulty meant good. Less is more~ Yeah, well that's wrong and so is the assumption that the best were simple. Clapton and Zeppelin to name a couple aren't exactly "simple" in comparison to TSL and radio rock. Also, since you run or work for the site, that means you can be a dick? It's funny, Frank is talking more of the proverbial "shit" than anyone when it was one of his "co-workers" who spoke against it earlier today when Tate whined about his little life. Seriously, like Pat said, "you wouldn't say this to anyone's face," so don't say it here. The kid was giving his feedback like he thought was welcome. Clarify if negative feedback isn't allowed. Otherwise, leave him the fuck alone.

[a typicalcliche]

hmm its ok

[Nerve-Agent]

I don't like the song, it sounds like modern mtv rock with a higher voice. I loved Say It Like You Mean It because it was fun, this...is not. Oh well, their decision. Yeah, and you're idea that it being a TV and radio success makes it the "best songs" pretty much sucks. Most of the music on here gets little radio or TV time but apparently that whats makes it good right? ~Jazz and blues would be on the radio and all if difficulty meant good. Less is more~ Yeah, well that's wrong and so is the assumption that the best were simple. Clapton and Zeppelin to name a couple aren't exactly "simple" in comparison to TSL and radio rock. Also, since you run or work for the site, that means you can be a dick? It's funny, Frank is talking more of the proverbial "shit" than anyone when it was one of his "co-workers" who spoke against it earlier today when Tate whined about his little life. Seriously, like Pat said, "you wouldn't say this to anyone's face," so don't say it here. The kid was giving his feedback like he thought was welcome. Clarify if negative feedback isn't allowed. Otherwise, leave him the fuck alone.

English is a fun language.

[xbrokendownx]

Take it easy Robert Frost, this isn't a fucking poetry contest, write replies like a normal person and not like an annoying one. My post was not directed towards you at all, i was speaking in general. However, if it WAS directed towards you, I would've clicked the little "Reply" button at the bottom of your post... because that's actually what it's used for (kind of like right now). Also, I took a look at your username like you told me to and the only conclusion I came to was that it sucks, you should probably consider changing it.


LMAO that just made my day

[blink621]

sweet bass

[StartingLine182]

sweet bass
I like it. I really want to hear photography though.

[drive-thru]

man, it's an awesome song! i love how it's not so generic. it kinda sounds like letterkills but just a little.. do you guys see what i mean? i can't wait to get this record

[Jim Morgan]

i like it alot. ive been listening to it all day.

definitely stoaked for this album.

[classicjazz123]

anyone can call the starting line generic but in my mind they are the masters of it. If that makes any sense.?

masters of the generic(meaning the best)

[theboohi]

Yeah I was hoping there'd be an mp3. Thanks a lot.

thank you kind sir.

[jeremyfromva]

Ok...i just ordered the new album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know i am gonna love it

[mondeoman]

WOW


that is all.

[AbsentTruth]

Yeah the new stuff is good. Seeing TSL this thursday.

[Finch076]

This song is ONLY okay, in my opinion. I mean, it just sounds so generic. I don't see how every keeps calling it "more mature" and whatnot. I've been a TSL fan since the first DTR sampers came out with Leaving and Cheek To Cheek on them, and i don't see that big of a difference now-a-days. It's a good song, don't get me wrong....but it doesn't make me as pumped for the rest of the album as everyone else seems to be getting. It just seems like a normal poppy punk song to me that has been written 1,000 times before.

[duffe]

This song is ok.

[yeknom]

Guys give it up, really.

throw your hats in the air.

[get2sammyb]

I really liked the song.

Who cares if it uses power chords? It still sounds great. The music is the important thing, not how the instrument is played to create the music. Besides the bass is great in this song. Really nice.

Thanks for the rips whoever did them :D

[permanent]

I don't really see that the band have matured all that much. I mean, yes, this is growth from their previous song but everyone is acting like this is a complete 180. The song is still catchy and has a lot of similar aspects as their older stuff. It's just this is slightly more developed.

On that note, it's a really killer song :)

[EvilButters]

Why is everyone comparing bands? Why not just enjoy or ignore the music instead of trying to figure what band A sounds like band B?

Because you know if you mention The Starting Line to someone who's never heard them before, they're more than likely going to ask "Who/what do they sound like?"

I like everything I've heard from this album so far, which is weird because I wasn't excited about it. I remember buying Say It Like You Mean It and loving it. After awhile, I got rid of it because it got old. In recent weeks, I had the urge to listen to it again and downloaded it. Still a good album. After hearing these songs on Purevolume, I can definitely say I will be picking it up on May 10.

[CyberInferno]

so do you have the rest of the album, we all know that tate has an advance copy.... i'd hate to see that ripped :wink:

but really, i heard this played live saturday night, and it rocked, i can't listen to the studio version because im in class... that would be funny though, this class sucks
I wish I had an advance copy. I ripped these from purevolume.com. Of course, if I were Tate, I wouldn't be sharing either. Not because I'm stingy, but I wouldn't want to piss off the powers that be. Undoubtedly he would be looked down upon if his advanced copy suddenly floated onto the internet.

Meanwhile, I'll do what I can to get downloadable versions of the stuff that's released to the internet.

[smokedsanity]

English is a fun language.


...and exactly what are you getting at?

[NoseOverTail]

It was always neck and neck for me in terms of excitement for the new FOB/TSL discs. Today, I'm officially psyched for "Based On A True Story" more.

And, maybe it was working with Tim O'Heir that did it, but Kenny really let the Say Anything influence come through. Certainly not complaining though.

[lesto17]

There really seems to be something for everyone on this album....if you dont like this song because you want fun music, like say it like you mean it, dont worry you will get yours too.

[Frank Giaramita]

I don't like the song, it sounds like modern mtv rock with a higher voice. I loved Say It Like You Mean It because it was fun, this...is not. Oh well, their decision. Yeah, and you're idea that it being a TV and radio success makes it the "best songs" pretty much sucks. Most of the music on here gets little radio or TV time but apparently that whats makes it good right? ~Jazz and blues would be on the radio and all if difficulty meant good. Less is more~ Yeah, well that's wrong and so is the assumption that the best were simple. Clapton and Zeppelin to name a couple aren't exactly "simple" in comparison to TSL and radio rock. Also, since you run or work for the site, that means you can be a dick? It's funny, Frank is talking more of the proverbial "shit" than anyone when it was one of his "co-workers" who spoke against it earlier today when Tate whined about his little life. Seriously, like Pat said, "you wouldn't say this to anyone's face," so don't say it here. The kid was giving his feedback like he thought was welcome. Clarify if negative feedback isn't allowed. Otherwise, leave him the fuck alone.

Do me a favor, read a fucking book, study the english language and put together a rational sentence before diving into an argument. Where in my statement did you see me say "Complicated is bad"... i said "SOUND IS EVERYTHING". So if you can write a super duper complicated riff and it SOUNDS GOOD, that's all that matters, at all. But when people judge stuff STRICTLY on difficulty, it's USELESS, MEANINGLESS, POINTLESS. So yes, something can be complicated and successful, nowhere in my statement did I say otherwise, I just said simplicity is NOT A BAD THING...learn to read, write, and form a thought before making yuourself look like a complete and utter tool. Eddie Van Halen was literally the fastest/most innovative guitarist in the history of the instrument... and he played simple stuff, proving that difficulty means nothing. No where did I say "the best were simple", howvere, I did say "the best wrote good SOUNDING material". If you have the fastest fingers in the world but can't write a guitar riff that sounds good... you won't make it anywhere... guarenteed.


"~Jazz and blues would be on the radio and all if difficulty meant good. Less is more~ "

Can someone please tell me what the fuck this kid is trying to say?

[PaperclipAnemia]

"~Jazz and blues would be on the radio and all if difficulty meant good. Less is more~ "

Can someone please tell me what the fuck this kid is trying to say?


I think he's saying jazz and blues sucks. his loss.

[sethstaubs]

I took a shot at the lyrics, I got as much as i could if you know what I dont please help out. This song is such a jab at the music industry, to me they are talking directly to Geffen trying to keep them from changing their sound... who knows, its a great song though.

closed window pane,
i stare out all day,
this room and the walls,
we wait for the call,
??and slow the decay??
this progress we've made,

could u get to the point,
get it accrossed,
to the ?boys? at the top of the ladder im climbing,
i have my doubts,

this is a call,
from my cage through the bars,
inspired by the $ thats dangling outside,

someone get to the point,
get it acrossed to the ?boys? at the top of the ladder im climbing,
i have my doubts,

go on a get it right,
get it right ,
ok jus stay the same way,
to do it like u did it before,
ok,
remain
remain the same,
? ? ? ?

someone get to the point,
get it acrossed to the ?boys? at the top of the ladder im climbing,
i have my doubts,

[FourStarters]

So...I'm the one who compared it to Deja. Do I think it sounds like Deja? Obviously not. All I was saying is that BOATS is TSL's Deja, their follow up to a solid album and a chance to show they've matured. Take a look at Brand New's first CD and the growth between their latest...there's my point.

I'm with Frank on this one too, simple songs are the best ever written. Hell, "You Can Call Me Al" by Paul Simon is simple as fuck and rocks like crazy. If you want something genre-pushing and technical, don't listen to TSL. You already knew that before you heard this song. They're pop punk, unashamedly so, but fuck man, they do it damn well.

If you want solid, catchy, fun pop punk...listen to bands like TSL. If you want technical, you're at the wrong site...the root of all of this is punk rock, a genre built and based on power chords.

[smokedsanity]

Do me a favor, read a fucking book, study the english language and put together a rational sentence before diving into an argument. Where in my statement did you see me say "Complicated is bad"... i said "SOUND IS EVERYTHING". So if you can write a super duper complicated riff and it SOUNDS GOOD, that's all that matters, at all. But when people judge stuff STRICTLY on difficulty, it's USELESS, MEANINGLESS, POINTLESS. So yes, something can be complicated and successful, nowhere in my statement did I say otherwise, I just said simplicity is NOT A BAD THING...learn to read, write, and form a thought before making yuourself look like a complete and utter tool. Eddie Van Halen was literally the fastest/most innovative guitarist in the history of the instrument... and he played simple stuff, proving that difficulty means nothing. No where did I say "the best were simple", howvere, I did say "the best wrote good SOUNDING material". If you have the fastest fingers in the world but can't write a guitar riff that sounds good... you won't make it anywhere... guarenteed.


"~Jazz and blues would be on the radio and all if difficulty meant good. Less is more~ "

Can someone please tell me what the fuck this kid is trying to say?



First, I do apologize for it not being clear. A 6AM rant wasn't a very good idea. I do like how you tell me to read a book though; you are humorous. The reason I find it humorous is because you don't know me. You don't know what I do or anything at all, (Right now I could pull a Tate and tell you things about my life that would make me feel superior, but I'll pass for now). Anyway, you tell me to read because my post wasn't as well constructed as yours. Let it be known that I do not feel the need to give much effort to my internet forum writing at 6 in the morning. I have others things to be proud of; but I do suppose I should try and prove myself online as many of you do. Ok though, I'll admit it myself, that post was a mess.

Now, please refer back to your original post. You did say "the greatest fucking songs ever written are the most basic and simple ones" So, you actually did say "simple is best." If you don't mean it, then make sure you express your thoughts in a better fashion. Also, your argument that Eddie Van Halen is the greatest guitarist to ever live is your opinion. Do me a favor and do not state it as fact.

As for the comment mentioning jazz and blues- someone said it must mean that I do not like those kinds of music. It wasn't meant that way, and is far from the truth. By making that comment, I was merely summing up what your earlier post had said. I was tired/lazy and it wasn't clear. Do you remember saying, "If difficulty determined whether a song was good or not, jazz and blues would be dominating the radios TV's and major label rosters," or when you used the old quote "Less is more"??? You did say those things, look it up. This is where my argument came in. You are saying that those genres are difficult, but don't get radio/TV play, so therefore are not good. If you mean that having a hook and elements of the like make for good radio/TV airplay, then mention it in the first place.

Has this post suited you better? Again, I do apologize for the mess of it. I was quite bothered though, the Alkaline Trio kid was being ridiculed for giving his opinion.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Yeah, I just saw a private message from someone by the name of BetweentheHeart. I'd appreciate it if you would at least make it so that people can respond. It's bad enough you talk shit to random people, but you do not even allow for a rebuttal. I'm going to quote Pat again though, "You wouldn't say it to anyone's face, so don't say it here."

[drive-thru]

I don't like the song, it sounds like modern mtv rock with a higher voice. I loved Say It Like You Mean It because it was fun, this...is not. Oh well, their decision. Yeah, and you're idea that it being a TV and radio success makes it the "best songs" pretty much sucks. Most of the music on here gets little radio or TV time but apparently that whats makes it good right? ~Jazz and blues would be on the radio and all if difficulty meant good. Less is more~ Yeah, well that's wrong and so is the assumption that the best were simple. Clapton and Zeppelin to name a couple aren't exactly "simple" in comparison to TSL and radio rock. Also, since you run or work for the site, that means you can be a dick? It's funny, Frank is talking more of the proverbial "shit" than anyone when it was one of his "co-workers" who spoke against it earlier today when Tate whined about his little life. Seriously, like Pat said, "you wouldn't say this to anyone's face," so don't say it here. The kid was giving his feedback like he thought was welcome. Clarify if negative feedback isn't allowed. Otherwise, leave him the fuck alone.

you should make lyrics

[smokedsanity]

you should make lyrics

Well if you read the post above your own, you'll see that the post of mine which you selected is not a typical example of my writing. Again, I was not aware that internet forums required proper writing. I would assume that since it is an obscure internet website that I could be forgiven. I forgot that most of you walk with your heads down, avoiding confrontation until you get home and scold others online.

Maybe you should write lyrics since you are so clever.

[Nerve-Agent]

Well if you read the post above your own, you'll see that the post of mine which you selected is not a typical example of my writing. Again, I was not aware that internet forums required proper writing. I would assume that since it is an obscure internet website that I could be forgiven. I forgot that most of you walk with your heads down, avoiding confrontation until you get home and scold others online.

Maybe you should write lyrics since you are so clever.

I don't think it really matters if you spell everything properly because no one is perfect, but if we can't even understand what you're trying to say, then it's pointless to post in the first place.

[smokedsanity]

Alright, I understand what you are saying. I gave the reasoning for such a sloppy post, not an excuse,mind you. Did I make my second post easier to understand?

Something occured to me. You claim that spelling is not so important. I will assume that punctuation is given leeway as well. If these two are not so criticized, then it must be my collection of unorganized thoughts. The reason they are unorganized or incoherent could be due to a lack of ability to express myself, not a lack of reading or knowledge of the english language. I do feel that in most cases(aside from my first post), I can express my thoughts and ideas to suitable degree. What if I or someone else were unable to so? Are we being insulted and scathed because we cannot express ourselves as well as others? Is that really grounds for such treatment? Now, before you say something about how mine was nothing but a wreck of a post, think about what I am saying now. Hell, maybe this isn't being expressed well enough to comprehend; I don't know. It's just seems that perhaps some of you, not all, are using this forum as a tool to impress yourself and others. Using your posts to build your importance, if you will. If it weren't this way; if you were willing to listen to others, rather than jump at any chance to tear them down, then you could have asked me to try and make myself more clear. That's all. I'm not looking for a fight, just giving my two cents.

Sorry for any errors.

[drive-thru]

Well if you read the post above your own, you'll see that the post of mine which you selected is not a typical example of my writing. Again, I was not aware that internet forums required proper writing. I would assume that since it is an obscure internet website that I could be forgiven. I forgot that most of you walk with your heads down, avoiding confrontation until you get home and scold others online.

Maybe you should write lyrics since you are so clever.

i was only kidding, i read it all. my bad

[smokedsanity]

Alright, good enough.

[CyberInferno]

In case someone here missed it, (http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XTXTB11KMZ6M2I3D6ZPH6H2F 7) the cd has leaked.