Fans Report In: Copeland, Acceptance, Etc.

[Jared Kaufman]

I just returned from the Copeland (http://www.thecopelandsite.com), Acceptance (http://www.acceptancerock.com), Lovedrug (http://www.purevolume.com/lovedrug) and Eager Seas (http://www.myspace.com/eagerseas) tour at the Troubador in Hollywood, CA. The show was awesome, so anyone too lazy to read my breakdown can rest assured that buying tickets to this is definitely money well spent. Eager Seas opened up the night with about five songs from their debut album, People Like People, coming out this summer on Tooth & Nail (http://www.toothandnailrecords.com). The songs were clearly reminiscent of Seth's old band, Watashi Wa (http://www.purevolume.com/watashiwa), but had a slightly more mature feel to them that I really dug. The set was great and I'm psyched for the album. Lovedrug was next, and what I have heard before form them I didn't like very much, so I wasn't expecting a lot. They made me eat my words. Some songs were as etheral as Sleeping At Last (http://www.sleepingatlast.com) or Radiohead (http://www.radiohead.com), while others brought enough dance to shake my ass. Bottom line: They totally rocked and I stand converted. The crowd was clearly anticipating Acceptance and what they brought was, if not surprising, disappointing to me as a fan. Although the songs off the new album seemed tight and very professional, the band really wasn't into them. Jason's stage presence left me wondering why I had heard so much about him. Even "Take Cover", which is their one new song that I have really gotten into, seemed flat and lifeless. The wo songs they played off of Black Lines to Battlefields, on the other hand, showed a completely different band. I can only hope they were unfamiliar with the new material live and will improve with time, but for me they were the most disappointing part of the night and in the end failed to convince me to pick up Phantoms this week. Finally, Copeland. I really can't say enough good things about their set. They mixed in songs off Beneath Medicine Tree and In Motion flawlessly, casting a spell over the crowd. I was particularly impressed with Johnathan's drumming. The only criticism I might have was when Aaron's vocals came in very flat at the beginning of a song. Bottom line: This tour is a don't miss.

Submitted By boekebong

[thecrowing776]

Moral of story: old-school Acceptance owns.

[eric.randalls]

i need to hear eager seas.
i miss watashi wa so so much.

[LeftWideOpen]

acceptance was really disappointing when they played here too. i sorta expected them to steal the show from copeland, but copeland blew them away (and aaron was sick)

[awfmike]

i was there as well, front and center... i think alot of it has to do with the crowd reaction, as only a handful of kids were really energetic about the Phantoms material...it just showed that ALOT of people were there for Copeland, and that no one but a few of us has the cd.. i agree with with the reviewer though.. the music and vocals were flawless, but the energy they put through seemed very flat...but when the crowd was pumped during Permanent and Bleeding Heart, they were a different band.

Copeland was a life changing event though.. everything was perfect in my eyes.. and Im eagerly awaiting the Eager Seas material, it was awesome... and as for lovedrug, well i saw them last night for the 2nd time (the first being 2 nights ago @ the house of blues) and they were totally awesome yet again.

great show and well worth the pretty cheap ticket price.. you know that in like 6 months the tickets for a show like this would have been much more than the 10 bucks i got them for.

[lookitsmarc]

The only criticism I might have was when Aaron's vocals came in very flat at the beginning of a song.

Although he might have been flat at the beginning of a single song, his voice is pretty amazing for a live performance. I mean look at popular bands like Senses Fail or Taking Back Sunday. I've heard entire sets that were more than a little flat.

[Katie Schmitz]

I'm really excited for Eager Seas and their new disc, I was a big fan of Watashi Wa and I'm glad to see that great voice being used and not wasted.

If you haven't hear of Watashi Wa, I suggest you take a good listen to them, they were great!

[SLADE775]

I went to the show in Roseville, CA Lovedrug and copeland were Outstanding.
Acceptance had a lot of technical problems ( I submitted this yet it was never put up..Jared!)
I was really upset with them, I expected much more.
Eager Seas was promising. They also had some nice-looking merch. ;)




Jared licks balls...

[Jared Kaufman]

Jared licks balls...
Rubber balls and liquor.

[SLADE775]

Rubber balls and liquor.


more like liquor....then my wrikly testies.

[Katie Schmitz]

more like liquor....then my wrikly testies.

Haha, last time I checked, weren't we talking about a concert on this thread???

It's all good, licking wrinkly testicles isn't all THAT bad. :)

[last light]

ya i was at this show also...it was good. copeland wasnt life changing at all like stated above. maybe it was where i was standing though, i couldnt really hear the vocals at all. i also disagree about what was said about acceptance. i thought they were better then copeland last night...i had already seen them come through 4 months ago on their headline tour and this was every bit as good. jason's voice is flawless live, hits every note it really is pretty incredible. both the headliners were awesome though, the thing i loved about copeland was their set list. seriously they played every single one of my favorite songs. paula sparks and california were the highlights....just wow. awesome show.

[SLADE775]

Haha, last time I checked, weren't we talking about a concert on this thread???

It's all good, licking wrinkly testicles isn't all THAT bad. :)


Yeah........FUCK! This ADHD gets the best of me at times. :headshake

[dutycalls]

Lovedrug is incredible. Best band on Militia...the sound of their record is almost identical to their live show. Vocally its right on. Defintely one of my favorite bands to see live.

Eager Seas intrigues me...and seth has louis from the kick on the road with him. I'm really looking forward to the album. Watashi was good stuff.

[dekdog11]

At the show in south Florida....As Tall As Lions and Lovedrug were awesome, Acceptance was amazing, no one really knew their songs but they were so tight. Copeland was just ok that night, they didn't really seem to into it. It is a great tour though, I enjoyed the show very much.

[Scott Weber]

i don't like it when people post negative reviews of a band in a fans report in. i don't think it's news, i think its talking trash, and doesn't belong on the news forum. if you're doing a fans report in, there better be some news in it and not just "the band wasn't into it." been seeing a lot of these recently... just my opinion.

[JealousFreak]

Rubber balls and liquor.

Hey Jared, are you a Don and Mike fan? Anyway, Copeland rules the world, Acceptance is decent, and As Tall As Lions impressed the crap out fo me. :la:

[btbam > you]

i was there last night as well. while acceptance wasn't as into it as they have been in the past, jason's vocals were still dead-on for every second of the performance, which is more than what can be said for almost any band out there. copeland was great, the only thing that bothered me is that most of the vocal harmonies on in motion, one of my favorite aspects of the cd, weren't sung live. still a great show though..

[Jared Kaufman]

Hey Jared, are you a Don and Mike fan? Anyway, Copeland rules the world, Acceptance is decent, and As Tall As Lions impressed the crap out fo me. :la:
Of course. I love The Junkies as well.

i don't like it when people post negative reviews of a band in a fans report in. i don't think it's news, i think its talking trash, and doesn't belong on the news forum. if you're doing a fans report in, there better be some news in it and not just "the band wasn't into it." been seeing a lot of these recently... just my opinion.
He didn't bash them. He praised them for performing better in his opinion when they played songs off the EP. He said he was upset they didn't live up to the hype he had heard about and didn't seem as into it for their new material, especially one of the new songs he really likes. I don't think he had an agenda of trash talking. These things get posted so people can get a feel for the show / tour and decide if they want to go or not. If you can send in news and be like "IT WAS THE MOST AMAZING SHOW EVER. THE BAND WAS FLAWLESS", then people should be able to hear and expect a "negative" review from time to time. It's not that big of a deal either because it's all a matter of opinion and people came in here and replied with "When I saw Acceptance they blew all the other bands away" and so on. I mean if people can't report on what they feel to be a bad performance by a band, then you shouldn't be able to give negative album reviews of bands.

[SLADE775]

i don't like it when people post negative reviews of a band in a fans report in. i don't think it's news, i think its talking trash, and doesn't belong on the news forum. if you're doing a fans report in, there better be some news in it and not just "the band wasn't into it." been seeing a lot of these recently... just my opinion.


Whats the difference between a Fans report in post, and a, hey check out my newest review of an album post? ANSWER..Nothing

[Scott Weber]

Whats the difference between a Fans report in post, and a, hey check out my newest review of an album post? ANSWER..Nothing
one has a link to a different forum where opinions are expressed, and another is displayed on the front page. I wouldn't care if the news post linked it to the User Show Reviews forum, that would make more sense.

[SLADE775]

one has a link to a different forum where opinions are expressed, and another is displayed on the front page. I wouldn't care if the news post linked it to the User Show Reviews forum, that would make more sense.

It dosent matter, people still post in the main forum with review threads.

dont get me wrong...I love the review posts.....but the fans report in posts are awesome too.

[boekebong]

i don't like it when people post negative reviews of a band in a fans report in. i don't think it's news, i think its talking trash, and doesn't belong on the news forum. if you're doing a fans report in, there better be some news in it and not just "the band wasn't into it." been seeing a lot of these recently... just my opinion.

I disagree with you Scott in my case for two main reasons,

A. I reported in on what Eager Seas had actually brought out on the road, when the album would be out, and what it would be called. I should have also said that all of Seth's gear still had Watashi Wa art painted on it which I thought was great.

B. I reported back on the performance of the bands. If I knew that Lovedrug would impress me so much and Acceptance not so much then I would have listened to more Lovedrug before going than trying to learn the Phantoms material. One person clearly disagreed with me. If a band doesn't play the material off of their major label debut well (perfect musicianship, little passion) less than a week before it drops, I would say that it's news. They might have been sick, it might have been an off night. To the person who said the crowd wasn't into the new songs, well, that's basically the reaction they are going to get outside of the scene until they prove otherwise. If you can't energize your fans...Bottom line, you can't read what I said about them until you open the thread. I didn't go to the show to hate on them, but like I said, I was disappointed.

Thanks Jared.

[SLADE775]

Scotts just in a piss-poor mood today........its cause he was out of vasaline when the oc was on.

[winterdale]

Copeland was good, but just kinda ehhhh to me...the vocals werent as loud as they needed to be and
Aaron seemed like he was under one too many sedatives, I also thought it was too close to the release to play so many songs from In Motion, i guess cause its sorta the tour for that album its mandatory. Highlights were "Choose the one who loves you most" and "California", lose points for not playing kite and for having bad merch, only three shirts? yea, fuckin a

[LeftWideOpen]

one has a link to a different forum where opinions are expressed, and another is displayed on the front page. I wouldn't care if the news post linked it to the User Show Reviews forum, that would make more sense.

I'm merely speculating, but I think I speak for others when I suggest that you wouldn't have responded to a negative post if this were, say, Hawthorne Heights, Simple Plan, etc.

I dont see why Fans Report In shouldn't be posted as News. If it's an issue for you, then maybe petition for it to be it's own section?

This isn't meant to be any kind of attack, either.

[bleed me bleu]

the new acceptance kicked ass at the show, they were flawless, and copelannd was amazing, in roseville, ithink they played moreold then new (thank god) and they played brightest which made my night, tho they didnt play walking downtown nor there cannot be a close second, and lovedrug was pretty average

[btbam > you]

Copeland was good, but just kinda ehhhh to me...the vocals werent as loud as they needed to be and
Aaron seemed like he was under one too many sedatives, I also thought it was too close to the release to play so many songs from In Motion, i guess cause its sorta the tour for that album its mandatory. Highlights were "Choose the one who loves you most" and "California", lose points for not playing kite and for having bad merch, only three shirts? yea, fuckin a

seriously, that merch was terrible. i was disappointed.

[gcore]

the crowd wasnt your usual crowd. since copeland is considered more on the christian side, its easy to see why the crowd wouldnt be into it. i went to this show in portland on the 15th, and i could tell that it was a more conservative crowd. but i thought acceptance played reaaaally well in ptown. and i have had phantoms since the end of march, so i was a very happy camper. they played so contagiously, def a big highlight. copeland wasnt as good as i figured they would be. they looked really tired/drunk/something sucky that hindered them playing a good live show. and i agree that eager seas was frickin kick ass. lovedrug was good, but just not my type of band i guess.

[Scott Weber]

I disagree with you Scott in my case for two main reasons,

A. I reported in on what Eager Seas had actually brought out on the road, when the album would be out, and what it would be called. I should have also said that all of Seth's gear still had Watashi Wa art painted on it which I thought was great.

B. I reported back on the performance of the bands. If I knew that Lovedrug would impress me so much and Acceptance not so much then I would have listened to more Lovedrug before going than trying to learn the Phantoms material. One person clearly disagreed with me. If a band doesn't play the material off of their major label debut well (perfect musicianship, little passion) less than a week before it drops, I would say that it's news. They might have been sick, it might have been an off night. To the person who said the crowd wasn't into the new songs, well, that's basically the reaction they are going to get outside of the scene until they prove otherwise. If you can't energize your fans...Bottom line, you can't read what I said about them until you open the thread. I didn't go to the show to hate on them, but like I said, I was disappointed.

Thanks Jared.
i hear ya, i know. I am certainly more defensive because it's acceptance, i just think fans report in posts can really misrepresent a band, a tour, or whatever. I mean, one person's view on one night of many many nights on a tour is just not anywhere close to an accurate represenation of what this tour is like. i'm not like super upset or anything, just some thoughts.

[weworemasks]

i saw acceptance on the deadpoetic/anadivine tour, and they played almost all phantoms material (except 3 songs) and they were pretty fucking good if you ask me. the band was into it, and i left liking acceptance a whole lot more.

[boekebong]

i hear ya, i know. I am certainly more defensive because it's acceptance, i just think fans report in posts can really misrepresent a band, a tour, or whatever. I mean, one person's view on one night of many many nights on a tour is just not anywhere close to an accurate represenation of what this tour is like. i'm not like super upset or anything, just some thoughts.

Yeah, but that's the same thing that happens with album reviews. The important thing is that staff have the discretion to post the report ins or not, so it's up to the news posters to decide if it is just biased tirades against a band, biased sucking up of a band, or a pretty fair review that would help out other members who might go to or maybe can't see a show. At any rate, always nice to have a little civilized discourse on the boards about something.

[piaffeprncess98]

i hear ya, i know. I am certainly more defensive because it's acceptance, i just think fans report in posts can really misrepresent a band, a tour, or whatever. I mean, one person's view on one night of many many nights on a tour is just not anywhere close to an accurate represenation of what this tour is like. i'm not like super upset or anything, just some thoughts.
I agree with you Scott. I personally would not base my decision on whether or not to go to a show from a user's post on a messageboard. Most of the time, I've already bought a ticket when this stuff in posted.

[heropenarms]

i was at this show last night at the troubadour. i didnt get to see eager seas, but but but, lovedrug really impressed me...good energy and emotion and played as tightly as their influences i.e. coldplay and muse. i was obviously anticipating acceptance as was everyone in this world. they werent as good as they couldve been, but it was only due to a lack of energy. i mean go to their show and listen to jason sing, listen to how good of a backup singer christian is, listen to how identical their sound is to their record, and then you tell me that it would let you down EVER, even if it wasnt as favorable as you thought it wouldve been. they, acceptance, are amazing boys, and amazing musicians, and one of the only bands that is sincerely impeccable live...sure, they lacked energy, but sound wise, my god, acceptance has it down...plus they eat in and out like there isnt a tomorrow....i heard copelands opening song "pin your wings down" off the new record, and was immediatley dissappointed...aarons voice was extremely off....their drummer is the most crisp drummer i have seen in a long time, but if your front man is off at all, your band is just not going to be good live, so copeland im sorry, but you arent good live, stick the the record. acceptance=living up to your anticipation even at their worst. period.

[drumlife04]

tracks #8 and #11 on Phantoms make me wet :animateds

[onxpoint]

ok, here's my feelings on "fans report in"

someone posting a review of a show, be it good or bad, is still way more interesting than the daily post of "at today's stop on the Jimmy Eat World/TBS tour the singer for AS TALL AS LIONS was spotted".

At least reviews are informative, those other posts border on Teen Beat shit.

[DeadVictoryRose]

the crowd wasnt your usual crowd. since copeland is considered more on the christian side, its easy to see why the crowd wouldnt be into it. i went to this show in portland on the 15th, and i could tell that it was a more conservative crowd. but i thought acceptance played reaaaally well in ptown. and i have had phantoms since the end of march, so i was a very happy camper. they played so contagiously, def a big highlight. copeland wasnt as good as i figured they would be. they looked really tired/drunk/something sucky that hindered them playing a good live show. and i agree that eager seas was frickin kick ass. lovedrug was good, but just not my type of band i guess.

actually the crowd that night consisted of a lot of major label a&r, a lot of bands, and industry people. and fyi, copeland is not on the christian side, any more than either of the other bands. none of these bands preach anything, none of these bands mention there personal religious beliefs from the stage, which is exactly how i want my music. Infused with spirituality but not preaching from a soapbox. this tour was diverse and amazing. saw it in san diego, and even though there were a few technical problems, the crowd was into every band. acceptance had a huge reception, and the entire crowd was singing along. lovedrug continued to blow people away, if you dont get this band im pretty sure you may have a mouse living inside your head.

[Scott Weber]

actually the crowd that night consisted of a lot of major label a&r, a lot of bands, and industry people. and fyi, copeland is not on the christian side, any more than either of the other bands. none of these bands preach anything, none of these bands mention there personal religious beliefs from the stage, which is exactly how i want my music. Infused with spirituality but not preaching from a soapbox. this tour was diverse and amazing. saw it in san diego, and even though there were a few technical problems, the crowd was into every band. acceptance had a huge reception, and the entire crowd was singing along. lovedrug continued to blow people away, if you dont get this band im pretty sure you may have a mouse living inside your head.
Yes, but while Copeland and Acceptance don't preach their beliefs on stage, they hardly shy away from in interviews and such. In fact, in the most recent alternative press, Copeland talks about their faith for a full page.