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LongDistanceDrunk
11/21/08, 04:29 PM
1. Yes
2. No
3. Indifferent
You have to add a poll dude. Wouldn't the word be legalized?
You have to add a poll dude. Wouldn't the word be legalized?
No, decriminalized. Lesser punishments not flat out legalization.
LongDistanceDrunk
11/21/08, 04:38 PM
No, decriminalized. Lesser punishments not flat out legalization.
I personally think it should be legalized but less penalties is the next best thing. It already is like that is some states. My uncle told me in New Hampshire and some other states around there all you get is fined
dpetty21
11/21/08, 04:44 PM
It depeneds how much you have on you. Look on NORML's website and they give the state laws. In Ohio you can have something like 3 ounces and on you(in one baggy of course for personal use) and it is only $100 fine.
Cuddleworthy
11/21/08, 05:29 PM
MA decriminalized it so we'll see how that goes. Probably not much is going to change
KyleMcr
11/21/08, 05:46 PM
Yes, it should definately be decriminalized
http://media.www.dailynebraskan.com/media/storage/paper857/news/2008/10/28/Features/Legalizing.Weed.May.Benefit.Society .Economy-3509454.shtml?refsource=collegehead lines
andrewshungry
11/21/08, 10:36 PM
i don't understand how anyone that actually knows anything about the subject could vote no
jay_klinkhammer
11/22/08, 12:29 PM
The only people that are anti-marijuana are the people that don't know.
leifstar
11/22/08, 05:44 PM
Mass has. =)
I think everything should be legalized. Except murder theft .....etc
Chromefox
11/22/08, 10:02 PM
Even though I frown upon its use, I even say legalize, as it can be regulated and taxed by the government, and the product would be safer than some of the weirdass shit out there fortified with toilet cleaners and the like.
of_the_rose
11/23/08, 10:09 AM
Of course it should be decriminalized. Its benefits far outweigh its detriments. Those who see it as a horrible drug should think about all the chemically processed pills with potentially harmful side-affects that they ingest. Pot's medical benefits span across a lot of different illnesses, it's organic (if the right nutrients are used), and there's safe ways of consuming it (vaporizers, food, teas). I think it's pretty closed-minded to reject it as a legitimate form of medication. Legalization or Decriminalization of it would be great for our country. It would be a new industry, creating new jobs, and generating millions. I'm sure there's a study somewhere that has numbers to add pot to our GDP.
briewer
11/23/08, 10:39 AM
In my book, pot's not a drug. Drugs, in my mind, are things that should be illegal, or can only be obtained through prescriptions. Pot is only still illegal because of millenia-old superstitions held by social conservatives. If you know anything remotely true marijuana, you are for decriminalizing it or even legalizing it.
TheZeroKid
11/24/08, 08:40 AM
I think marijuana should be legalized and regulated in the same way that tobacco and alcohol are regulated. There are too many people serving mandatory minimum sentences over getting high. I understand if they get high and do something stupud like harm themselves or others, but for the love of God, pot is not that bad, and it's surely the least dangerous drug out on the streets.
Let the record show that I don't smoke weed personally, but I think it should be decriminalized or even legalized
carnotaurhunter
11/24/08, 08:28 PM
Absolutely not. I guess I'm in the minority here, but I feel that anything less than sober is no way to live.
Absolutely not. I guess I'm in the minority here, but I feel that anything less than sober is no way to live.
For millions of people decriminalized and medical marijuana could provide an astounding amount of healthy pain relief that is much much much better for you than the prescription pain killers that are prescribed these days. Not only would the medical benefits be ridiculous but the economic benefit of a to be billion dollar industry would be a nice boost to our economy. Not everybody smokes pot to just get fucked up.
Also why should something that has been proven over and over again to be healthier than alcohol and cigarettes be outlawed and why should they be punished with incredibly large fines and prison time, the same punishment for murderers and thieves?
atainder
11/25/08, 12:40 PM
It's should be legalized. It's a plant.
But decriminalization is a start...
atainder
11/25/08, 12:41 PM
Absolutely not. I guess I'm in the minority here, but I feel that anything less than sober is no way to live.
So, since you choose to live that way, everyone else should too?
carnotaurhunter
11/25/08, 11:24 PM
It's should be legalized. It's a plant.
But decriminalization is a start...
So, since you chose to live that way, everyone else should too?
a) Cocaine comes from a plant, too.
b) No, I know that no one will ever listen to me about things like that, so I don't even try any more. I just thought the opposing voice was unrepresented in this thread, so I spoke up.
Chromefox
11/25/08, 11:45 PM
Absolutely not. I guess I'm in the minority here, but I feel that anything less than sober is no way to live. I live that way too, but feeling that way isn't going to stop people from doing it. If they're going to do it anyways, then the government might as well save money keeping these people out of prison, and make money by regulating and taxing it.
LongDistanceDrunk
11/26/08, 07:16 AM
I live that way too, but feeling that way isn't going to stop people from doing it. If they're going to do it anyways, then the government might as well save money keeping these people out of prison, and make money by regulating and taxing it.
I love your avatar. So awful yet so amazing
a) Cocaine comes from a plant, too.
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Yeah and you know what, cocaine can kill you. There has never been a documented overdose on marijuana, ever. An extremely addictive and potentially fatal drug such as cocaine should be illegal, I agree, but marijuana which has numerous medical potential along with the potential billion dollar industry from pot and hemp, which cannot kill you, should not be illegal.
CarouselBoy
11/28/08, 02:09 PM
rolling stone wrote a really good article on the US war on drugs last year. It was mostly about the way money is spent on it in places like colombia and mexico but part of it is how much marijuana related arrests clog up the US penal system. It's ridiculous how much money is spent to stop marijuana when there are far more important and dangerous drugs that that money could be going to. Meth has grown from nothing in the early 90's to use by 2 million people last year. Tell me that's not a problem worth spending more money on. Plus the fact that it's been proven that marijuana isn't a gateway drug. The only reason they ever say it is is because most any one that does hard drugs did marijuana first, but the majority of ppl who use or have used marijuana don't use hard drugs. They use backwards reasoning to justify their stand.
SuNDaYSTaR
11/28/08, 03:38 PM
Mass has. =)
I think everything should be legalized. Except murder theft .....etcAwesome way of contradicting yourself. That's basically the debate; where do you draw the line at what's "good" and "bad"?
Say Nothing
11/28/08, 08:19 PM
Ok my honest opinion on this is that it should in fact be legal. If marijuana became legal, crime rates would go down dramatically. If you stop to think about it for a moment, you'd realize that a great portion of the crime in today's society is caused by marijuana. The desire that many people have over the substance cause other crime such as violence.
sammyboy516
11/30/08, 06:16 AM
no. who cares if its "less deadly than cigarettes;" its's still immensley damaging and, yes, will lead to worse drugs. if its less dangerous than cigerettes and alcohol, they should be illegalized.
ok, now you can quote me and rudely tell em why i'm worng (i'm that guy nobody's ggonna like in this thread)
jbaseball44
11/30/08, 07:51 AM
Yes
Cuddleworthy
11/30/08, 09:55 AM
It should be decriminalized in every state, even if solely for economic reasons. The money that the criminal justice system spends on charging, prosecuting, and locking up people for marijuana is just so absurd. I could go on this topic for a while since we spent an entire day talking about this in my Economics of Crime class but I'll spare you all.
leifstar
11/30/08, 05:09 PM
Awesome way of contradicting yourself. That's basically the debate; where do you draw the line at what's "good" and "bad"?
I don't see how I contradicted myself. I know what I was saying, maybe you misunderstood.
leifstar
11/30/08, 05:15 PM
no. who cares if its "less deadly than cigarettes;" its's still immensley damaging and, yes, will lead to worse drugs. if its less dangerous than cigerettes and alcohol, they should be illegalized.
ok, now you can quote me and rudely tell em why i'm worng (i'm that guy nobody's ggonna like in this thread)
Quoting and hating.
We are all entitled to our opinions. I disagree on your position, but that doesn't mean I hate you. You have your view and I have mine.
sammyboy516
11/30/08, 05:29 PM
Quoting and hating.
We are all entitled to our opinions. I disagree on your position, but that doesn't mean I hate you. You have your view and I have mine.
ah, the world needs more people like you, dude. its a good thing that two people can have a discusion and have differinng opinions without eating eacother alive. that happens too much on this site.
carnotaurhunter
12/01/08, 07:19 AM
no. who cares if its "less deadly than cigarettes;" its's still immensley damaging and, yes, will lead to worse drugs. if its less dangerous than cigerettes and alcohol, they should be illegalized.
ok, now you can quote me and rudely tell em why i'm worng (i'm that guy nobody's ggonna like in this thread)
I always look at the other direction too. People are like, "why is it that you can go to war, buy cigarettes, and do porn at 18, but you can't drink until 21?" Well, maybe those ages should be raised instead of lowering the drinking age or whatever. Well, except porn. :-p
But yeah, maybe we should reevaluate some other laws first. I mean, alcohol and tobacco kill sooooo many people... and for what? All in the name of "getting fucked up."
atainder
12/01/08, 07:52 AM
a) Cocaine comes from a plant, too.
b) No, I know that no one will ever listen to me about things like that, so I don't even try any more. I just thought the opposing voice was unrepresented in this thread, so I spoke up.
Cocaine isn't just a plant.
Reaine!
12/01/08, 08:52 AM
i dont think beer is that much better so why not make them both legal.
vincentbiz
12/01/08, 10:49 AM
if nothing else, weed should be legalized to help reboost the economy.
we would instantly be out of the recession when everyone can be weed.
vincentbiz
12/01/08, 10:56 AM
no. who cares if its "less deadly than cigarettes;" its's still immensley damaging and, yes, will lead to worse drugs. if its less dangerous than cigerettes and alcohol, they should be illegalized.
ok, now you can quote me and rudely tell em why i'm worng (i'm that guy nobody's ggonna like in this thread)
I get where your coming from. but it isn't that dangerous. and if you ingest it properly (i.e. food, vaporizer, etc.) it isn't damaging your body at all. People bring up the brain cell debate but what they don't understand is how quickly the brain rebuilds itself. it was recreate the lost cells within one day. leaving no damage.
Alex DiVincenzo
12/01/08, 03:21 PM
I don't support drug use (I'm edge), but I think the police and courts have bigger issues to worry about. I don't think it should ever be legalized because the negative effects have been proven, but decriminalizing (as MA just did) doesn't seem all that bad.
leifstar
12/01/08, 04:23 PM
ah, the world needs more people like you, dude. its a good thing that two people can have a discusion and have differinng opinions without eating eacother alive. that happens too much on this site.
Well thank you, and I can agree to that. It happens a lot on this site. Its fine to have different opinions and to disagree on topics, but there are mature ways in doing so. I know not everyone will agree with my opinions and I may even be wrong with many of them, but at least show some respect when pointing flaws out in my argument.
leifstar
12/01/08, 04:34 PM
I always look at the other direction too. People are like, "why is it that you can go to war, buy cigarettes, and do porn at 18, but you can't drink until 21?" Well, maybe those ages should be raised instead of lowering the drinking age or whatever. Well, except porn. :-p
But yeah, maybe we should reevaluate some other laws first. I mean, alcohol and tobacco kill sooooo many people... and for what? All in the name of "getting fucked up."
Well you can also say that some foods we eat are really unhealthy. They end up killing a lot of people too, and for what? all in the name of enjoying its taste?
I am not trying to mock you just giving an example and I am sure there are many of them. There's just some point when we need to draw the line with the government and our personal choices. I am afraid one day the government will one day run our lives with what we can or cannot do. And honestly it is my body, I will chose what I do and what I do not do with it, as long as it does not directly physically hurt another (Driving under the influence....)
Also about the drinking until 21. The only argument I can see on the side of it being 21 is that the body doesn't fully develop till 21. ( I think and could be completely wrong.) And drinking has significant impact on that development. I am not agreeing with the law its just the only reason I can see for having it, and like I previously stated my body, my decisions on what goes in so I do believe the age should be lowered to 18. I feel 18 is an age where most can make logical decisions or at least have the resources to decide.
SuNDaYSTaR
12/01/08, 05:03 PM
I don't see how I contradicted myself. I know what I was saying, maybe you misunderstood.It's because you said that ''everything should be decriminalized'', then went on with a list of things that ''should stay criminal''.
Got it?
thespearkid
12/01/08, 05:13 PM
no. who cares if its "less deadly than cigarettes;" its's still immensley damaging and, yes, will lead to worse drugs. if its less dangerous than cigerettes and alcohol, they should be illegalized.
ok, now you can quote me and rudely tell em why i'm worng (i'm that guy nobody's ggonna like in this thread)
Weed has been proven to be harmless by every non-biased study ever done on the subject. Also, there is no proof that weed leads to harder drugs. I don't hate you but you're not basing your opinion off anything.
leifstar
12/01/08, 05:46 PM
It's because you said that ''everything should be decriminalized'', then went on with a list of things that ''should stay criminal''.
Got it?
here is what I said
"Mass has. =)
I think everything should be legalized. Except murder theft .....etc"
I can see how you think it was contradicting. However,I was beginning to state my views on drugs, then realized that some smart allic (/sp?) would come and say so you think murder should be legalized. So I tried to state a few obvious things for people to get the point. Which is much easier than listing all the things I think should be legalized.
Its like someone saying list out 15 movies you like in the following 20. It is easier to say I dislike 5 of them and them being x,x,x,x,x; rather than listing all 15.
I am Mick
12/02/08, 03:20 PM
I don't enjoy getting high, but it shouldn't be a crime.
Just regulate it like alcohol, IE. Don't smoke and drive
sammyboy516
12/02/08, 06:02 PM
I get where your coming from. but it isn't that dangerous. and if you ingest it properly (i.e. food, vaporizer, etc.) it isn't damaging your body at all. People bring up the brain cell debate but what they don't understand is how quickly the brain rebuilds itself. it was recreate the lost cells within one day. leaving no damage.
Oh yeah, everyone sits in their living rooms with their buddies and smokes some marijuana around the 'ol vaporizer, because saftey is every smoker's first concern.
I also see wear you're coming from, but not many people take these types of precautions.
SuNDaYSTaR
12/03/08, 11:53 AM
I tried to state a few obvious things for people to get the point. Which is much easier than listing all the things I think should be legalized.That's exactly the point of the debate. For some people, marijuana should obviously stay criminal, and for you it's the opposite. What would you define as an ''obvious'' crime?
thespearkid
12/03/08, 12:18 PM
Oh yeah, everyone sits in their living rooms with their buddies and smokes some marijuana around the 'ol vaporizer, because saftey is every smoker's first concern.
I also see wear you're coming from, but not many people take these types of precautions.
Even if it's smoked, marijuana is harmless.
leifstar
12/03/08, 08:28 PM
That's exactly the point of the debate. For some people, marijuana should obviously stay criminal, and for you it's the opposite. What would you define as an ''obvious'' crime?
Well I guess I should have said, I feel the things that should be illegal are the things that directly hurt another. Murder, theft, arson, kidnapping, driving under the influence, assault, assault under the influence.
But when it comes to drugs I think it should be our choice what we do and what we not do with our body, as long as the decision doesn't directly bring bodily harm to another. And once that happens it should be criminal.
Smoking pot, I am not hurting anyone else, unless I get in a car and get in an accident.
I suck at debating, especially online. I can see the con's coming in on that statement.
leifstar
12/03/08, 08:29 PM
I don't enjoy getting high, but it shouldn't be a crime.
Just regulate it like alcohol, IE. Don't smoke and drive
Agreed 100%.
yes to decriminalization, ideally would be legalization.
pianorocklove
12/04/08, 11:21 AM
I'm personally 100% against the use of marijuana, but I think it should be decriminalized. Our jails are overcrowded and it isn't fair to have something minor like pot use on your record.
Sandie-Jenkins
12/04/08, 07:39 PM
Yes, marijuana isn't that bad. The government can't make a profit because production is so underground. It should be decriminalized because there are pot heads in prison with killers and rapists. Pot heads are some of the funnest most loving people I've ever met.
jgord88
12/04/08, 10:20 PM
It should be legalized so stoners and hippies would be less annoying.
SuNDaYSTaR
12/05/08, 08:55 AM
I suck at debating, especially online.No you don't, that was clear as crystal!
leifstar
12/05/08, 02:45 PM
No you don't, that was clear as crystal!
hahaha. drunk debating.
circatbs
12/06/08, 06:14 PM
Legalize it. its a fucking plant, come on! If tobacco and alcohol are legal, (which are abused much more and are both addictive) are legal than why not marijuana??
EDIT: the more i think about it, the only reason they WOULDNT legalize it is probably due to the fact that anybody can grow it and the good ol' government cant tax it.
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