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Does anybody else here love Hemingway's work? Everything of his that I've read so far I've loved.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 04:00 PM
Does anybody else here love Hemingway's work? Everything of his that I've read so far I've loved.
Yes. What have you read?
Yes. What have you read?
• Hills Like White Elephants
• The Sun Also Rises
• For Whom The Bell Tolls
• The Old Man and the Sea
I'm planning on reading more of his work during the Christmas break.
i only really liked the sun also rises
i only really liked the sun also rises
I had to read it for school, and I thought it was amazing.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 04:07 PM
• Hills Like White Elephants
• The Sun Also Rises
• For Whom The Bell Tolls
• The Old Man and the Sea
I'm planning on reading more of his work during the Christmas break.
The Sun Also Rises is my favorite by him.
You should definitely check out In Our Time, which is a collection of his short stories, and A Moveable Feast, which is basically an autobiography of his life in Paris. If you are into other modernist writers, especially his fellow expatriates living in Paris at the time, definitely check A Moveable Feast out.
The Sun Also Rises is my favorite by him.
You should definitely check out In Our Time, which is a collection of his short stories, and A Moveable Feast, which is basically an autobiography is his life in Paris. If you are into other modernist writers, especially his fellow expatriates living in Paris at the time, definitely check A Moveable Feast out.
That sounds excellent! I'd like to read everything he's written, if that's at all possible.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 04:14 PM
That sounds excellent! I'd like to read everything he's written, if that's at all possible.
Haha it would take a long time I'd imagine, but it would also be well worth it.
Ohh yea, read A Farewell to Arms too. I forgot about that one.
Haha it would take a long time I'd imagine, but it would also be well worth it.
Ohh yea, read A Farewell to Arms too. I forgot about that one.
Haha, I'm asking for a lot of books this year for Christmas, including that one.
I find with Hemingway that I like to take the time to read his work very carefully to enjoy his prose. Every sentence of his is perfect to me. Last summer I worked as a flagger out on the roads, and I spent it reading For Whom The Bell Tolls. I love that book. The ending is bizarre, and I don't want to give any of it away, but it's one of the strangest endings I've ever read.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 04:25 PM
Haha, I'm asking for a lot of books this year for Christmas, including that one.
I find with Hemingway that I like to take the time to read his work very carefully to enjoy his prose. Every sentence of his is perfect to me. Last summer I worked as a flagger out on the roads, and I spent it reading For Whom The Bell Tolls. I love that book. The ending is bizarre, and I don't want to give any of it away, but it's one of the strangest endings I've ever read.
Yea I've been meaning to read For Whom The Bell Tolls. I own it, but I just never got around to it.
As for Hemingway's prose, I completely agree with you. I especially liked the part in The Sun Also Rises where Jake and his friend are walking through the mountains in Pamplona, and they just fish and drink a shitload of wine. His prose in that section is epic.
A Farewell To Arms is one of my favorite books ever written. The style, the story, everything is just so well done. I would really like to read more of his work though.
Yea I've been meaning to read For Whom The Bell Tolls. I own it, but I just never got around to it.
As for Hemingway's prose, I completely agree with you. I especially liked the part in The Sun Also Rises where Jake and his friend are walking through the mountains in Pamplona, and they just fish and drink a shitload of wine. His prose in that section is epic.
I loved that part, too. I liked the idea too that it was about this guy with a lot of cash that could do as he pleased. I also like that he hung out with the social elite, and that because he was a successful writer he could do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted.
A Farewell To Arms is one of my favorite books ever written. The style, the story, everything is just so well done. I would really like to read more of his work though.
You should read For Whom The Bell Tolls. I'd love to discuss it with other people, haha.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 05:17 PM
I loved that part, too. I liked the idea too that it was about this guy with a lot of cash that could do as he pleased. I also like that he hung out with the social elite, and that because he was a successful writer he could do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted.
To be honest, I never look at it that way before. I mean I realized he could do whatever he wanted to do, but everything he did was sensible and not over the top. Plus, Jake could fucking down bottles of wine too, which is awesome. In fact, every character's tolerance for alcohol in that novel is unbelievable.
Have you ever read anything by Vonnegut?
To be honest, I never look at it that way before. I mean I realized he could do whatever he wanted to do, but everything he did was sensible and not over the top. Plus, Jake could fucking down bottles of wine too, which is awesome. In fact, every character's tolerance for alcohol in that novel is unbelievable.
Have you ever read anything by Vonnegut?
Their ability to drink was respectable, for sure!
I have not. Can you recommend what I could start with?
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 06:03 PM
Their ability to drink was respectable, for sure!
I have not. Can you recommend what I could start with?
To start with? Well, his most popular is Slaughterhouse-Five, and that might be a good place to start.
After that, definitely go for Cat's Cradle or Breakfast of Champions. Actually, if you started with Breakfast of Champions, you can see how extremely post-modern is writing is. I won't give any plot away, but his storyline is excellent and the ending is really fucking good. Plus, there are a lot of hand drawn pictures from him in it, and they add so much to the book.
To start with? Well, his most popular is Slaughterhouse-Five, and that might be a good place to start.
After that, definitely go for Cat's Cradle or Breakfast of Champions. Actually, if you started with Breakfast of Champions, you can see how extremely post-modern is writing is. I won't give any plot away, but his storyline is excellent and the ending is really fucking good. Plus, there are a lot of hand drawn pictures from him in it, and they add so much to the book.
That sounds good! I'll add them to my list.
Skadrist
11/23/08, 07:40 PM
The irony of me reading this thread while listening to a Spanish Civil War Song.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 08:14 PM
That sounds good! I'll add them to my list.
Awesome dude. I've got a shitload of other cool books to check out if your interested.
Aside from Hemingway, what else do you like or have read?
The irony of me reading this thread while listening to a Spanish Civil War Song.
Irony indeed sir. Are you getting drunk on wine too? That would be even more badass.
The irony of me reading this thread while listening to a Spanish Civil War Song.
Hahahahahahahahaha.
Awesome dude. I've got a shitload of other cool books to check out if your interested.
Aside from Hemingway, what else do you like or have read?
Well, for the first time I read The Catcher In The Rye in the summer, and right now I'm reading George Saunders' Pastoralia, which is a collection of short stories which have been really thought-provoking so far. They're quite bizarre, but I like them.
doyouhas?
11/23/08, 09:04 PM
hemingway and vonnegut. i like this thread.
ive only read the sun also rises and for whom the bell tolls by hemingway. but ive read a ton of vonnegut books. i definitely plan on reading more hemingway. for whom the bell tolls is one of the best books ive ever read.
hemingway and vonnegut. i like this thread.
ive only read the sun also rises and for whom the bell tolls by hemingway. but ive read a ton of vonnegut books. i definitely plan on reading more hemingway. for whom the bell tolls is one of the best books ive ever read.
I'm stoked that you said that. :D
What did you think of the ending? Without giving anything away, haha.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 09:17 PM
Well, for the first time I read The Catcher In The Rye in the summer, and right now I'm reading George Saunders' Pastoralia, which is a collection of short stories which have been really thought-provoking so far. They're quite bizarre, but I like them.
Catcher is really good, as is any Salinger really.
hemingway and vonnegut. i like this thread.
ive only read the sun also rises and for whom the bell tolls by hemingway. but ive read a ton of vonnegut books. i definitely plan on reading more hemingway. for whom the bell tolls is one of the best books ive ever read.
What Vonnegut have you read?
doyouhas?
11/23/08, 09:57 PM
I'm stoked that you said that. :D
What did you think of the ending? Without giving anything away, haha.
i thought the ending was great. it certainly was a bewilderment though. probably not the ending that most people would like to see, but fantastic nonetheless.
doyouhas?
11/23/08, 10:03 PM
What Vonnegut have you read?
Slaughterhouse Five
Cat's Cradle
Mother Night
Breakfast Of Champions
The Sirens Of Titan
Galapagos
Player Piano
Slapstick
Bluebeard
He's my favorite author. I plan on finishing his canon when I have the time. Every book has been absolute genius.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 10:08 PM
Slaughterhouse Five
Cat's Cradle
Mother Night
Breakfast Of Champions
The Sirens Of Titan
Galapagos
Player Piano
Slapstick
Bluebeard
He's my favorite author. I plan on finishing his canon when I have the time. Every book has been absolute genius.
Great stuff. It is my goal too to read all his novels and short stories. I've read Slaughterhouse Five, Cat's Cradle, Breakfast of Champions, and I am currently in the middle of God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater, and it is so fucking good. Up next I planned on reading Timequake or Bluebeard, I haven't decided yet.
i thought the ending was great. it certainly was a bewilderment though. probably not the ending that most people would like to see, but fantastic nonetheless.
A bewilderment is the perfect way to describe it.
I loved the characters in this story.
Thomas Balkcom
11/23/08, 10:38 PM
I love Ernest Hemingway, and I would really like to start reading Vonnegut
ThemChains
11/23/08, 10:43 PM
Writing my essay on The Sun Also Rises as we speak. Good book, plenty to write about.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 10:45 PM
Writing my essay on The Sun Also Rises as we speak. Good book, plenty to write about.
What are you writing on in The Sun Also Rises?
ThemChains
11/23/08, 10:51 PM
What are you writing on in The Sun Also Rises?
I am writing about the disenfranchisement of the group in focus throughout the novel, in respect to them being referred to as "The Lost Generation" by many. Mostly I am giving examples within the novel of times when they had opportunities to change things for themselves but instead remained stagnant.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 11:00 PM
I am writing about the disenfranchisement of the group in focus throughout the novel, in respect to them being referred to as "The Lost Generation" by many. Mostly I am giving examples within the novel of times when they had opportunities to change things for themselves but instead remained stagnant.
Are you throwing the label of the lost generation on everybody? technically you could, but it was used mainly to describe hemingway himself, in relation to some other modernist writers like fitzgerald, anderson and pound. In the book, I can't remember who says it, I think either Bill or Jake, but they mention the lost generation as those who participated in the war.
And, if you have time, as I don't want to detract you from your paper, I'd like to know what opportunities you saw in the novel for some of the characters to change? Personally, I think they had no choice, except maybe for Cohn.
ThemChains
11/23/08, 11:07 PM
Are you throwing the label of the lost generation on everybody? technically you could, but it was used mainly to describe hemingway himself, in relation to some other modernist writers like fitzgerald, anderson and pound. In the book, I can't remember who says it, I think either Bill or Jake, but they mention the lost generation as those who participated in the war.
And, if you have time, as I don't want to detract you from your paper, I'd like to know what opportunities you saw in the novel for some of the characters to change? Personally, I think they had no choice, except maybe for Cohn.
I am adopting the opinion of some critical responses to the novel, in that the people within the novel were lost as well. I think one example is of Jake himself. He had every power to at least try to convince Brett to be with him, and to love him. In my opinion, she didn't truly love Jake, or she would never have not been with him, nor been with other men in his direct presence. Brett really needs no explanation, she cruises through the novel with a very flip attitude. To me, she seems to tread on a lot of people without any sort of worry about them at all, she is completely self absorbed. This angle isn't often taken up about the book, and it is definitely a more optimistic outlook on their situation, but it's how I see a lot of it.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 11:14 PM
I am adopting the opinion of some critical responses to the novel, in that the people within the novel were lost as well. I think one example is of Jake himself. He had every power to at least try to convince Brett to be with him, and to love him. In my opinion, she didn't truly love Jake, or she would never have not been with him, nor been with other men in his direct presence. Brett really needs no explanation, she cruises through the novel with a very flip attitude. To me, she seems to tread on a lot of people without any sort of worry about them at all, she is completely self absorbed. This angle isn't often taken up about the book, and it is definitely a more optimistic outlook on their situation, but it's how I see a lot of it.
I agree she is very self absorbed, as she is twice divorced and has relations with any man she meets. I also agree with your point that she treads all over guys without much care, like Mike, Cohn, and Pedro. However, she doesn't tread on Jake, and constantly comes back to him for emotional support. I think I might disagree with your point that Brett didn't love Jake though. They clearly loved each other, but could never consummate their relationship because Jake couldn't have sex anymore because of an injury from the war. Both characters only needed that physical aspect to complete their love, but it was impossible, and therefore Brett just freely went around with whoever because physically she was trapped, but emotionally she was Jakes.
And I agree that your point is a more optimistic outlook, as much of the criticism on the book is negative, or perhaps neutral.
ThemChains
11/23/08, 11:17 PM
I agree she is very self absorbed, as she is twice divorced and has relations with any man she meets. I also agree with your point that she treads all over guys without much care, like Mike, Cohn, and Pedro. However, she doesn't tread on Jake, and constantly comes back to him for emotional support. I think I might disagree with your point that Brett didn't love Jake though. They clearly loved each other, but could never consummate their relationship because Jake couldn't have sex anymore because of an injury from the war. Both characters only needed that physical aspect to complete their love, but it was impossible, and therefore Brett just freely went around with whoever because physically she was trapped, but emotionally she was Jakes.
And I agree that your point is a more optimistic outlook, as much of the criticism on the book is negative, or perhaps neutral.
I disagree only because "romantic love" shouldn't need consummation to exist. If she truly, deeply loved Jake, it wouldn't matter. However, another point I raise is that by this time in the climate of the world romantic love has died as proven by other novels written in the same time. I'm not saying my view is correct, and I realize it's easy to refute...however, I'm merely stating that humans have the ability to initiate positive action in their lives and these people seem very complacent.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 11:25 PM
I disagree only because "romantic love" shouldn't need consummation to exist. If she truly, deeply loved Jake, it wouldn't matter. However, another point I raise is that by this time in the climate of the world romantic love has died as proven by other novels written in the same time. I'm not saying my view is correct, and I realize it's easy to refute...however, I'm merely stating that humans have the ability to initiate positive action in their lives and these people seem very complacent.
The only thing I can say is that I think "romantic love" is a combination of emotional and physical attraction. Clearly Jake and Brett had that, but physically they had nothing. And who's view is really correct anyways? Everyone's perspective is not going to be the same, and given this explanation of your paper, I actually really like your idea. It is definitely a different take on the novel in comparison to most criticism. Did you learn or know about the iceberg theory and the objective correlative?
ThemChains
11/23/08, 11:28 PM
The only thing I can say is that I think "romantic love" is a combination of emotional and physical attraction. Clearly Jake and Brett had that, but physically they had nothing. And who's view is really correct anyways? Everyone's perspective is not going to be the same, and given this explanation of your paper, I actually really like your idea. It is definitely a different take on the novel in comparison to most criticism. Did you learn or know about the iceberg theory and the objective correlative?
No, mostly the class is an open forum on our own opinions of the work. The only theory on the work we get is what we look up on our own, but I prefer formulating my own opinion on it, and then doing some research if I care enough. For the most part, my view is opposite of most critical theory I have found. I just enjoy an open exchange of ideas in the class, regardless of how heated it may get at times.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 11:34 PM
No, mostly the class is an open forum on our own opinions of the work. The only theory on the work we get is what we look up on our own, but I prefer formulating my own opinion on it, and then doing some research if I care enough. For the most part, my view is opposite of most critical theory I have found.
Yeah your opinion is different, and I have read a shitload of criticism on the book. I am seriously considering doing my dissertation on Hemingway, so I've been researching everything on him and reading what I haven't read by him.
If you get pressed for examples from the text, I say you drop Hemingway's iceberg theory into your paper. What it basically means is that Hemingway gave the reader the most minimal actions or words possible (the tip of the iceberg) and let the reader find the meaning in his prose (the rest of the iceberg). For example, the last line in the novel, where Jake says to Brett they could have had a damned good time together; you can take so much from that one sentence. In your case, you could probably relate it to how Jake thinks Brett can't love him because of his injury, and that line by Jake is him conceding that Brett never loved him, because she could have looked past it.
ThemChains
11/23/08, 11:36 PM
Yeah your opinion is different, and I have read a shitload of criticism on the book. I am seriously considering doing my dissertation on Hemingway, so I've been researching everything on him and reading what I haven't read by him.
If you get pressed for examples from the text, I say you drop Hemingway's iceberg theory into your paper. What it basically means is that Hemingway gave the reader the most minimal actions or words possible (the tip of the iceberg) and let the reader find the meaning in his prose (the rest of the iceberg). For example, the last line in the novel, where Jake says to Brett they could have had a damned good time together; you can take so much from that one sentence. In your case, you could probably relate it to how Jake thinks Brett can't love him because of his injury, and that line by Jake is him conceding that Brett never loved him, because she could have looked past it.
I will probably use that. Thanks. I am taking a Hemingway/Fitzgerald seminar class next semester. Just for the hell of it. Same teacher as the class I'm in now. It is a more in depth look at their work and their lives. Pumped.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 11:39 PM
I will probably use that. Thanks. I am taking a Hemingway/Fitzgerald seminar class next semester. Just for the hell of it. Same teacher as the class I'm in now. It is a more in depth look at their work and their lives. Pumped.
That sounds like an awesome class. Have you read any Fitzgerald?
ThemChains
11/23/08, 11:42 PM
That sounds like an awesome class. Have you read any Fitzgerald?
Only the Great Gatsby, once in high school and once for this class. My last essay was mostly about the Great Gatsby. Essentially I was stating that someone chasing the American Dream causes a ripple effect of negative consequences to those around them. Examples used were The Great Gatsby and two selections from Winesburg, Ohio.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 11:43 PM
Only the Great Gatsby, once in high school and once for this class. My last essay was mostly about the Great Gatsby. Essentially I was stating that someone chasing the American Dream causes a ripple effect of negative consequences to those around them. Examples used were The Great Gatsby and two selections from Winesburg, Ohio.
I've honestly never read that book yet. I hear so much about it though, all the time. I've only read Tender is the Night by him, and that was good fucking book.
ThemChains
11/23/08, 11:46 PM
I've honestly never read that book yet. I hear so much about it though, all the time. I've only read Tender is the Night by him, and that was good fucking book.
Much better book as a 20 year old than as a 15 year old.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 11:48 PM
Much better book as a 20 year old than as a 15 year old.
Haha I bet. Now that I am in grad school for English, I've gone back and read all the stuff I read in high school, and realized how good most of it is, especially Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye. I've read that book about six times now.
What is your favorite book?
ThemChains
11/23/08, 11:51 PM
Haha I bet. Now that I am in grad school for English, I've gone back and read all the stuff I read in high school, and realized how good most of it is, especially Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye. I've read that book about six times now.
What is your favorite book?
Of all time? It's hard to say. Brave New World is up there, but so is The Satanic Verses. Also, Animal Liberation and The Origin Of Species are other favorites of mine. I try to vary my reading.
RunInTheFront
11/23/08, 11:56 PM
Of all time? It's hard to say. Brave New World is up there, but so is The Satanic Verses. Also, Animal Liberation and The Origin Of Species are other favorites of mine. I try to vary my reading.
Yea I agree it's hard to pick an all time favorite. Whenever I get asked the question, I usually say it is a three way tie between The Sun Also Rises, Jack Kerouac's On The Road and Kurt Vonnegut's Breakfast of Champions. Also, anything by Douglas Coupland is amazing, such as Shampoo Planet and Life After God.
Brave New World is an awesome book. That's Huxley, right? I always get that book mixed up with 1984, which I think is by Orwell if I remember correctly. And, have you actually read all of The Origin of Species? I've always wanted to read that. How was it?
ThemChains
11/23/08, 11:58 PM
Yea I agree it's hard to pick an all time favorite. Whenever I get asked the question, I usually say it is a three way tie between The Sun Also Rises, Jack Kerouac's On The Road and Kurt Vonnegut's Breakfast of Champions. Also, anything by Douglas Coupland is amazing, such as Shampoo Planet and Life After God.
Brave New World is an awesome book. That's Huxley, right? I always get that book mixed up with 1984, which I think is by Orwell if I remember correctly. And, have you actually read all of The Origin of Species? I've always wanted to read that. How was it?
Correct. Alduous Huxley wrote Brave New World, George Orwell wrote 1984. The Origin Of Species is a very scientific book. Basically everything is jargon, but I thoroughly enjoy it and recommend it to anyone who wants a well rounded opinion on the subject of divine creation/evolution.
RunInTheFront
11/24/08, 12:02 AM
Correct. Alduous Huxley wrote Brave New World, George Orwell wrote 1984. The Origin Of Species is a very scientific book. Basically everything is jargon, but I thoroughly enjoy it and recommend it to anyone who wants a well rounded opinion on the subject of divine creation/evolution.
Yea, I've always wanted to read Darwin's book. The thought never even crossed my mind to look for the book though. I think I will look for it at my school's library tomorrow before my class.
How's that Hemingway paper coming by the way? And thanks for talking to me about this stuff, nobody here, aside from the people in my class, likes literature at all. And even then, most of the people in my classes are 30-40 year old women who are extreme feminists and turn everything into a feminist argument, especially Hemingway.
ThemChains
11/24/08, 12:07 AM
Yea, I've always wanted to read Darwin's book. The thought never even crossed my mind to look for the book though. I think I will look for it at my school's library tomorrow before my class.
How's that Hemingway paper coming by the way? And thanks for talking to me about this stuff, nobody here, aside from the people in my class, likes literature at all. And even then, most of the people in my classes are 30-40 year old women who are extreme feminists and turn everything into a feminist argument, especially Hemingway.
The paper isn't due for another week, I just like to work ahead of schedule. Time for multiple drafts and such. Take this to book thread and hopefully we can get some actual discussion going in there, all my attempts are thwarted or ignored. Just people sucking off Pahlaniuk.
RunInTheFront
11/24/08, 12:11 AM
The paper isn't due for another week, I just like to work ahead of schedule. Time for multiple drafts and such. Take this to book thread and hopefully we can get some actual discussion going in there, all my attempts are thwarted or ignored. Just people sucking off Pahlaniuk.
Haha alright, I'll head over there now. And personally, Phalaniuk is overrated, but alright in my opinion.
ThemChains
11/24/08, 12:15 AM
Haha alright, I'll head over there now. And personally, Phalaniuk is overrated, but alright in my opinion.
Yea, he has some good books. Nothing to write home about. I'm more partial to the Dave Eggers and Chris Adrians. Most authors from McSweeney's.
Skadrist
11/24/08, 04:28 AM
Awesome dude. I've got a shitload of other cool books to check out if your interested.
Aside from Hemingway, what else do you like or have read?
Irony indeed sir. Are you getting drunk on wine too? That would be even more badass.
Well I did spend some of my time doing push-ups with a rifle on my back whilst shirtless so I suppose that is very Hemingway-esque.
I am not kidding about that either.
Damn, I missed out on some serious conversation last night. I shouldn't have gone to sleep.
I love Ernest Hemingway, and I would really like to start reading Vonnegut
What have you read of Hemingway's? Haha, you'll have to join in on this fun.
Yea, I've always wanted to read Darwin's book. The thought never even crossed my mind to look for the book though. I think I will look for it at my school's library tomorrow before my class.
How's that Hemingway paper coming by the way? And thanks for talking to me about this stuff, nobody here, aside from the people in my class, likes literature at all. And even then, most of the people in my classes are 30-40 year old women who are extreme feminists and turn everything into a feminist argument, especially Hemingway.
im a feminist and i like hemingway. a feminist is someone who thinks women and men are equal..
doyouhas?
11/24/08, 08:59 AM
im a feminist and i like hemingway. a feminist is someone who thinks women and men are equal..
i bet you dont like 'On The Road.'
RunInTheFront
11/24/08, 12:01 PM
im a feminist and i like hemingway. a feminist is someone who thinks women and men are equal..
That's what I am saying. Hemingway isn't sexist or anti-Semitic, but these women in my class go attack him like crazy. I agree with your assessment of feminism, and in relation to Hemingway's works, I meant it in that a lot people misinterpret his work, especially The Sun Also Rises, as sexist and anti-Semitic. It just so happens I have a lot of extreme feminist's in my classes who find a way to bash every male author or character, or ONLY view a book in a feminist perspective. There is nothing wrong with that, it's just much of everything else gets overlooked sometimes by focusing on one perspective.
Skadrist
11/24/08, 12:03 PM
Have any of you all noticed that the Dos XX guy is based off of Hemingway?
RunInTheFront
11/24/08, 12:11 PM
Have any of you all noticed that the Dos XX guy is based off of Hemingway?
Haha yea, whenever I see that commercial it always reminds me of him. I always wondered who that guy was anyways.
Have any of you all noticed that the Dos XX guy is based off of Hemingway?
I'm not familiar.
Skadrist
11/24/08, 12:57 PM
I'm not familiar.
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CstSnow
11/24/08, 01:54 PM
Hemingway is definitely one of my favorite authors of all time. The Dangerous Summer is ridiculously underrated and under read, I dont know anyone else who has read it.
I have been on a big Steinbeck kick lately, East of Eden is perfection.
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Oh, wow! That's actually kind of insane. Thanks, haha.
That's what I am saying. Hemingway isn't sexist or anti-Semitic, but these women in my class go attack him like crazy. I agree with your assessment of feminism, and in relation to Hemingway's works, I meant it in that a lot people misinterpret his work, especially The Sun Also Rises, as sexist and anti-Semitic. It just so happens I have a lot of extreme feminist's in my classes who find a way to bash every male author or character, or ONLY view a book in a feminist perspective. There is nothing wrong with that, it's just much of everything else gets overlooked sometimes by focusing on one perspective.
exactly. just look at the sun also rises. i saw brett as a very strong character, in many ways liberated. she has power over almost every man she meets. others might not read it that way, but that's one of the great things about hemingway, he leaves a lot up to the reader's interpretation.
exactly. just look at the sun also rises. i saw brett as a very strong character, in many ways liberated. she has power over almost every man she meets. others might not read it that way, but that's one of the great things about hemingway, he leaves a lot up to the reader's interpretation.
I think people should always read Brett that way. She essentially castrates every man she meets.
I actually wanted to name my band (that doesn't yet exist) after a Hemingway short story.
handlikesecret
11/25/08, 06:47 PM
i have 4 of his books on my Christmas list!
handlikesecret
11/25/08, 06:49 PM
I actually wanted to name my band (that doesn't yet exist) after a Hemingway short story.
i want to name my non-existent solo project after a quote from The Once and Future King! we can tour.
i want to name my non-existent solo project after a quote from The Once and Future King! we can tour.
Hahahaha, that sounds excellent.
i have 4 of his books on my Christmas list!
Hemingway? Me too.
E-Skeezy
11/25/08, 07:04 PM
The very last part of The Sun Also Rises with Jake And Brett in the cab fucking breaks my heart every time.
The very last part of The Sun Also Rises with Jake And Brett in the cab fucking breaks my heart every time.
I know what you mean. I think it's that there's no resolution between the two, and that he's always going to love her that makes it so sad.
handlikesecret
11/25/08, 07:12 PM
Hahahaha, that sounds excellent.
people will explode from the beautiful names on the tour banners!
Hemingway? Me too.
good stuff, which ones?
good stuff, which ones?
As of right now:
• A Farewell To Arms
• A Moveable Feast
• In Our Time
• Men Without Women
I'd like to read all of his work, but I'm going to take my time and enjoy this.
Lueda Alia
11/25/08, 07:56 PM
I read some of his books (in Albanian) when I was a lot younger and I remember loving them. I've been wanting to get some copies in English to read them again.
I read some of his books (in Albanian) when I was a lot younger and I remember loving them. I've been wanting to get some copies in English to read them again.
Albanian, huh? That's really cool! What did you read?
i've read a farewell to arms and the sun also rises. i remember liking both a lot but it's been more than 5 years since i've read 'em so i don't remember anything that happens in them. except for a line in the sun also rises: "to hell with you, brett ashley" bc i wrote a song titled that haha
i don't remember anything that happens in them. except for a line in the sun also rises: "to hell with you, brett ashley" bc i wrote a song titled that haha
That's excellent. Would Hemingway be proud of the lyrics?
RunInTheFront
11/26/08, 07:34 PM
Hey, BigAl, read this Hemingway short story: http://www.repeatafterus.com/title.php?i=8752. It's included in In Our Time. It is my favorite story out of the collection. It is a quick read, but an excellent story. I bet you would like it.
(http://www.repeatafterus.com/title.php?i=8752)
Hey, BigAl, read this Hemingway short story: http://www.repeatafterus.com/title.php?i=8752. It's included in In Our Time. It is my favorite story out of the collection. It is a quick read, but an excellent story. I bet you would like it.
(http://www.repeatafterus.com/title.php?i=8752)
Thank you, sir! I'll check it out!
RunInTheFront
11/26/08, 11:32 PM
Any good or no? I love the story personally. I actually titled my novel after it.
Any good or no? I love the story personally. I actually titled my novel after it.
It was excellent. Hemingway's simplicity is something I don't think others can/could easily match.
I think there should be a movie about Hemingway's life.
Any good or no? I love the story personally. I actually titled my novel after it.
I am now in possession more Hemingway. :-)
I miss this thread. Let's get it going again, Hemingway aficionados.
WarpSpeedChewy
05/12/09, 09:10 AM
I've really been thinking about picking up one of his books for the first time recently. I want to get "A Movable Feast" to start out with. Is that a good first Hemingway book ?
CstSnow
05/12/09, 04:27 PM
I've really been thinking about picking up one of his books for the first time recently. I want to get "A Movable Feast" to start out with. Is that a good first Hemingway book ?
It's good, but for a first Hemingway go with The Sun also Rises, the Dangerous Summer,the Old Man and the Sea, or For Whom the Bell Tolls
anamericangod
05/12/09, 04:31 PM
The Sun Also Rises is painfully boring. I'm struggling to finish the last 30 pages or so.
coryatlarge
05/12/09, 05:27 PM
i read a farewell to arms and attempted to read the sun also rises a few years ago and i agree with anamericangod i couldnt get into it... maybe i should give it another try
more heart
05/12/09, 05:30 PM
I want to read The Dangerous Summer only because of the fact that it is how TDS got their name.
jsut read the snows of Kilimanjaro and loved the short happy life.
deanster321
05/12/09, 05:48 PM
I've only read The Old Man And The Sea but I really enjoyed it. There's a lot of beauty in its simplicity. I have one or two other books to finish reading currently but chances are I will explore his work further when I get the chance.
CstSnow
05/12/09, 08:12 PM
The Sun Also Rises is painfully boring. I'm struggling to finish the last 30 pages or so.
Boring?
I love it and find it completely engrossing, it's pretty interesting how the same books affect people in completely different ways.
anamericangod
05/12/09, 08:19 PM
Boring?
I love it and find it completely engrossing, it's pretty interesting how the same books affect people in completely different ways.
I mean, I get what it's about and I understand what they're trying to express, but it just seems so aimless. What did you find engrossing about it? I've really been bored with it.
CstSnow
05/12/09, 09:01 PM
I mean, I get what it's about and I understand what they're trying to express, but it just seems so aimless. What did you find engrossing about it? I've really been bored with it.
Ironically enough its that futility and aimlessness that pulled me in, for some reason the whole lost generation idea of being so morally and psychologically lost through what happened in WWI really drew me in. Plus I enjoyed the Bull Fighting sections, and that led me to finding the Dangerous Summer which is amazing.
I've really been thinking about picking up one of his books for the first time recently. I want to get "A Movable Feast" to start out with. Is that a good first Hemingway book ?
I have it, but I haven't read it yet. The first short story of his I read was "Hills Like White Elephants," and it was fantastic.
It's good, but for a first Hemingway go with The Sun also Rises, the Dangerous Summer,the Old Man and the Sea, or For Whom the Bell Tolls
I love these books. "For Whom The Bell Tolls" has one of the most profound endings ever.
The Sun Also Rises is painfully boring. I'm struggling to finish the last 30 pages or so.
Really? I loved that book, but it is repetitive.
i read a farewell to arms and attempted to read the sun also rises a few years ago and i agree with anamericangod i couldnt get into it... maybe i should give it another try
I think you definitely should.
I want to read The Dangerous Summer only because of the fact that it is how TDS got their name.
I wasn't aware of this, but that is awesome.
jsut read the snows of Kilimanjaro and loved the short happy life.
That's awesome. I've heard it's good.
I've only read The Old Man And The Sea but I really enjoyed it. There's a lot of beauty in its simplicity. I have one or two other books to finish reading currently but chances are I will explore his work further when I get the chance.
True that! That's what I love about Hemingway. His simplicity is what attracts me, and it's so simple that I think it'd be hard to replicate.
Boring?
I love it and find it completely engrossing, it's pretty interesting how the same books affect people in completely different ways.
I concur.
I mean, I get what it's about and I understand what they're trying to express, but it just seems so aimless. What did you find engrossing about it? I've really been bored with it.
There are a lot of parallels with Hemingway's character's lives and his own. The inner-struggle is what made me pay attention, for a few years after that book was released Hemingway took his own life, so I'm thinking a lot of the thoughts were not only the characters' but Hemingway's too, if that makes sense.
Ironically enough its that futility and aimlessness that pulled me in, for some reason the whole lost generation idea of being so morally and psychologically lost through what happened in WWI really drew me in. Plus I enjoyed the Bull Fighting sections, and that led me to finding the Dangerous Summer which is amazing.
Same here. :-)
That's excellent. Would Hemingway be proud of the lyrics?
haha, no, not at all. but as a 20-year-old i thought it was hot shit
haha, no, not at all. but as a 20-year-old i thought it was hot shit
Haha, as you should!
ohLOOKitsLEAH
06/14/09, 02:57 PM
THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA.
I just love it so much.
WarpSpeedChewy
06/14/09, 03:02 PM
I need to get "The Old Man and the Sea" and "A Movable Feast" already. I feel like lately my interest and habit of reading books has progress a great deal.
THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA.
I just love it so much.
It's an amazing book! :-)
I need to get "The Old Man and the Sea" and "A Movable Feast" already. I feel like lately my interest and habit of reading books has progress a great deal.
Hahaha, same here. I just stared reading Men Without Women yesterday, and so far it's really good.
Men Without Women was excellent. I liked some stories more than others, but I feel I'll have to read it all again sometime to soak it all in.
I just finished In Our Time. It was good, but it wasn't my favourite collection of short stories.
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