genre confused

[onemoresong]

do you go to school with or work with people who constantly calling certain bands a _____ band?

save for the actual hardcore kids, few people at my schol know what hardcore is. one kid said that slipknot and avenged sevenfold are hardcore. i laughed at him inside my head.

[Colorblind!]

do you think august burns red is a hardcore band?

[funkel]

do you think august burns red is a hardcore band?
Was thinking the same thing.

[LamarVannoy]

for a minute i thought the title of this thread said ''Gender Confused''. i was gonna say, shouldnt this be in PL forums?

[voncorn]

lol at the misusing of the term "screamo"

[Burn That Shit]

do you go to school with or work with people who constantly calling certain bands a _____ band?

save for the actual hardcore kids, few people at my schol know what hardcore is. one kid said that slipknot and avenged sevenfold are hardcore. i laughed at him inside my head.

I'm pretty sure this happens everywhere. I notice it mostly with emo though rather than hardcore.

[morgan_w]

do you go to school with or work with people who constantly calling certain bands a _____ band?

save for the actual hardcore kids, few people at my schol know what hardcore is. one kid said that slipknot and avenged sevenfold are hardcore. i laughed at him inside my head.


Definitely, it happens all the time :(

[Getup and Dance]

do you go to school with or work with people who constantly calling certain bands a _____ band?

save for the actual hardcore kids, few people at my schol know what hardcore is. one kid said that slipknot and avenged sevenfold are hardcore. i laughed at him inside my head.

Silly kid, those bands are hardcore punk.

[live.]

The only time genre classifications bother me is when some of my friends just call anything catchy, soft or slow, "emo".

[elenar011]

genres suck

[poi]

some "metalheads" in my guitar class call everything that's not led zeppelin or guns n roses "emo". silverstein? emo. as i lay dying? emo. job for a cowboy? emo. mineral? emo. underoath? emo. as cities burn? emo. surfjan stevens? emo. arcade fire? emo. starting line? emo. valencia? emo. finch? emo. you get it.

[about3fitty]

genres suck

agreed

[thesafeword]

lol at the misusing of the term "screamo"
What do you think screamo is?

[voncorn]

What do you think screamo is?

Saetia is screamo.

The Devil Wears Prada or Drop Dead Gorgeous or whatever the fuck "scene" kids these days listen to and call their shitty flavor of the week metalcore groups screamo, is not.

[Getup and Dance]

What do you think screamo is?
What do you think screamo is?

[thesafeword]

What do you think screamo is?
Underoath.

[mht]

the hardest most fucked genres are definitely indie or post hardcore.


the best and the worst bands are lumped in both styles of play.

especially post hardcore. You can have either the WORST convo with someone about that genre that has no clue or THE BEST convo about that genre.

They cross Post Hardcore with Indie (faster type indie bands flirt with post hardcore, just like slower type indie bands might flirt the fine like of folk or midwestern emo but still be an "indie" band.)

Definitely the worst than your average "hardcore" "screamo" "metalcore" nonsense.

[Rawrr]

"Real post-hardcore is chiodos!"

Real quote from my High School. Real

[mht]

i even hate when people say bands like Thursday are post hardcore.


I don't see it that way at all.

[ThemChains]

Post hardcore is heavier than Neurosis.

amidoinitrite?

[mht]

post rock is heavier than Neurosis.

correct.

[onemoresong]

yeah emo is another commonly confused one that i notice at school. "yeah, my chemical romance is emo"

no my friend, the get up kids is emo, jimmy eat world is emo. my chemical romance is goth-punk turned mainstream rock.

[Jumpoff]

no my friend, the get up kids is emo, jimmy eat world is emo. my chemical romance is goth-punk turned mainstream rock.

lol.

i even hate when people say bands like Thursday are post hardcore.


I don't see it that way at all.

Thought I was the only one who didn't consider Thursday posthardcore.

[Getup and Dance]

yeah emo is another commonly confused one that i notice at school. "yeah, my chemical romance is emo"

no my friend, the get up kids is emo, jimmy eat world is emo. my chemical romance is goth-punk turned mainstream rock.

I'm glad you know your genre's.

[Regards]

yeah emo is another commonly confused one that i notice at school. "yeah, my chemical romance is emo"

no my friend, the get up kids is emo, jimmy eat world is emo. my chemical romance is goth-punk turned mainstream rock.
Ah hahahaha. Keep being a beacon of hope to your friends. No, rly.

[x togepi x]

yeah emo is another commonly confused one that i notice at school. "yeah, my chemical romance is emo"

no my friend, the get up kids is emo, jimmy eat world is emo. my chemical romance is goth-punk turned mainstream rock.

fail

[Burn That Shit]

"Real post-hardcore is chiodos!"

Real quote from my High School. Real

It's not really the kids fault though, they look at myspace or wikipedia and don't know any better. Calling Chiodos post-hardcore is still pretty laughable though.

[kearn1tm]

Just call if Post-Postpartum Nu-Wave Revivalist-Fusion if you can't properly identify a particular band's sound. You'll still be called a moron, but, you know, I have no way of ending this sentence

[kearn1tm]

yeah emo is another commonly confused one that i notice at school. "yeah, my chemical romance is emo"

no my friend, the get up kids is emo, jimmy eat world is emo. my chemical romance is goth-punk turned mainstream rock.

Somewhere, Ian MacKaye is masturbating and writing angry letters to the local 'zine about the kids...while masturbating.

[Praetor]

yeah emo is another commonly confused one that i notice at school. "yeah, my chemical romance is emo"

no my friend, the get up kids is emo, jimmy eat world is emo. my chemical romance is goth-punk turned mainstream rock.
Post of the year.

[elenar011]

Just call if Post-Postpartum Nu-Wave Revivalist-Fusion if you can't properly identify a particular band's sound. You'll still be called a moron, but, you know, I have no way of ending this sentence

loled. pretty hard.

[Angylion Gefell]

I sometimes explain to people that no, screamo is not a genre. Most "in" kids don't debate music with me.


If you locked BFMV (before anyone jumps at this, I'm not calling BFMV screamo, they're just the only metalcore band i could think of off the top of my head) and Rammstein in a cage, there is no question which one would come out alive.

[Jumpoff]

I sometimes explain to people that no, screamo is not a genre. Most "in" kids don't debate music with me.


If you locked BFMV (before anyone jumps at this, I'm not calling BFMV screamo, they're just the only metalcore band i could think of off the top of my head) and Rammstein in a cage, there is no question which one would come out alive.

lol. Screamo is a genre.

[Duexy]

only classification i need for my music is good or bad. fuck a genre.

[alltimehoe93]

People refer to a few of my friends as 'emo' and one of our favorite bands is All Time Low.
I take that as people indirectly referring to bands like ATL and BLG, etc. as 'emo'.
Biggest piece of crap I have heard in my entire life.

[elenar011]

only classification i need for my music is good or bad. fuck a genre.

/thread

[LamarVannoy]

yeah emo is another commonly confused one that i notice at school. "yeah, my chemical romance is emo"

no my friend, the get up kids is emo, jimmy eat world is emo. my chemical romance is goth-punk turned mainstream rock.
lol

[Troggy]

People refer to a few of my friends as 'emo' and one of our favorite bands is All Time Low.
I take that as people indirectly referring to bands like ATL and BLG, etc. as 'emo'.
Biggest piece of crap I have heard in my entire life.

Do kids your age really only listen to bottom feeding scene leftovers like the bands you listed as your favorites? I remember listening to some pretty bad music when I was your age, but do kids nowadays block everything else out? Have you ever heard any other genres of music? Is the temptation to fit with the trends and listen to disposable shallow music too much?

Just wondering...

[Angylion Gefell]

Do kids your age really only listen to bottom feeding scene leftovers like the bands you listed as your favorites? I remember listening to some pretty bad music when I was your age, but do kids nowadays block everything else out? Have you ever heard any other genres of music? Is the temptation to fit with the trends and listen to disposable shallow music too much?

Just wondering...

Yes.

[Troggy]

Yes.

Are you one of said kids, because if not, then thanks but I need an answer from one of them

[alltimehoe93]

Do kids your age really only listen to bottom feeding scene leftovers like the bands you listed as your favorites? I remember listening to some pretty bad music when I was your age, but do kids nowadays block everything else out? Have you ever heard any other genres of music? Is the temptation to fit with the trends and listen to disposable shallow music too much?

Just wondering...
That's your opinion. I don't see the bands that I love that way. Maybe in a few years I will. I don't now though.

[RamInGoreville]

Fuck genres.

Besides hip-hop, they are rarely accurate.

[Troggy]

That's your opinion. I don't see the bands that I love that way. Maybe in a few years I will. I don't now though.

You didn't answer any of the questions. This is probably the only time I will not be making fun of you on here so humor me with some answers.

[Jumpoff]

I guess I'm alone in the fact that genres are a good thing. :dance:

[Jumpoff]

That's your opinion. I don't see the bands that I love that way. Maybe in a few years I will. I don't now though.

The questions are totally a trap. I recommend you answer any and all questions with the word "Propagandhi".

[Duexy]

I just burped and it smelled so fucking strange.

[[DontEverLie]]

You didn't answer any of the questions. This is probably the only time I will not be making fun of you on here so humor me with some answers.
+ hahah troggy your pic is a llama

XD it all makes sense +

[alltimehoe93]

Do kids your age really only listen to bottom feeding scene leftovers like the bands you listed as your favorites? I remember listening to some pretty bad music when I was your age, but do kids nowadays block everything else out? Have you ever heard any other genres of music? Is the temptation to fit with the trends and listen to disposable shallow music too much?

Just wondering...
Ignoring your apparent need to trash the bands I listen to currently, no, a lot of the kids at my school listen to crap like Lil Wayne who I could not have respect for if you paid me. However, among a smaller group of kids, Boys Like Girls is appearing to be popular and so is All Time Low which is why I mentioned those two. I'm williing to listen to anything but I also state my opinion fairly clearly afterwards. I like it or I don't. I don't 'block everything else out'. I have heard of other genres, thanks. I'm really not seeing a trend here. I like what I like. I dislike what I dislike. There is no big trend involving these bands, not in my area.
You didn't answer any of the questions. This is probably the only time I will not be making fun of you on here so humor me with some answers.
Why thank you for gracing me with your kind ways, sir.

[Jumpoff]

;27794372']+ hahah troggy your pic is a llama

XD it all makes sense +

I don't get it :-|

[alltimehoe93]

The questions are totally a trap. I recommend you answer any and all questions with the word "Propagandhi".
I wish I read this post before I proceeded to answer them as nicely as I could.

[alltimehoe93]

I don't get it :-|
hahah, it's an inside joke between [DontEverLie] and a couple of our friends who aren't on AP.
Don't worry about it.

[Colorblind!]

The questions are totally a trap. I recommend you answer any and all questions with the word "Propagandhi".

LOL

That's your opinion. I don't see the bands that I love that way. Maybe in a few years I will. I don't now though.

Start trying to see them that way.

[alltimehoe93]

Start trying to see them that way.
hm. No thanks, I'm good. :]

[[DontEverLie]]

hm. No thanks, I'm good. :]

+i respect your opinion and think you deserve a cupcake+

[Duexy]

"You walked in
Indie rock used to be dirty pop
Could you be everything;
My rise and my fall?
Rescue me, 9 to 5
40 fires in your eyes
I don't care what you buy
Just don't you go"

lyrics are just as criminal as any trash lil wayne has written

[Colorblind!]

hm. No thanks, I'm good. :]

Are you sure?
We're doing you a massive service here.

[alltimehoe93]

"You walked in
Indie rock used to be dirty pop
Could you be everything;
My rise and my fall?
Rescue me, 9 to 5
40 fires in your eyes
I don't care what you buy
Just don't you go"

lyrics are just as criminal as any trash lil wayne has written
Again that's your opinion. Kill Me In A Record Shop is really not even close to the best lyrics from any song I like. Not by a long shot and I'll admit that. But Lil' Wayne's lyrics are the epitome of pure crap.
I mean
"When I'm in the mix...laying down with some chick
That suddenly it'll click
How this broad in my drawers dont know shit
Bout what I did 'fore I was big
When's there's a woman with my kid where I should be
She screamed to me (What?)
My love, my patience, my pain (OK)
***** please"
Are you fucking kidding me?

[alltimehoe93]

Are you sure?
We're doing you a massive service here.
As much as I appreciate this 'service' of yours, I'm all set.

[Duexy]

young wayne on dem hoes aka mr make it rain on dem hoes

[Troggy]

The questions are totally a trap. I recommend you answer any and all questions with the word "Propagandhi".

It actually wasn't a trap :shrug:

Ignoring your apparent need to trash the bands I listen to currently, no, a lot of the kids at my school listen to crap like Lil Wayne who I could not have respect for if you paid me. However, among a smaller group of kids, Boys Like Girls is appearing to be popular and so is All Time Low which is why I mentioned those two. I'm williing to listen to anything but I also state my opinion fairly clearly afterwards. I like it or I don't. I don't 'block everything else out'. I have heard of other genres, thanks. I'm really not seeing a trend here. I like what I like. I dislike what I dislike. There is no big trend involving these bands, not in my area.

OK. Act your age. Great.

[Jumpoff]

Again that's your opinion. Kill Me In A Record Shop is really not even close to the best lyrics from any song I like. Not by a long shot and I'll admit that. But Lil' Wayne's lyrics are the epitome of pure crap.
I mean
"When I'm in the mix...laying down with some chick
That suddenly it'll click
How this broad in my drawers dont know shit
Bout what I did 'fore I was big
When's there's a woman with my kid where I should be
She screamed to me (What?)
My love, my patience, my pain (OK)
***** please"
Are you fucking kidding me?

Lil Wayne is listened to largely because of his flow; the lyrics are second ranking. I do like some of his songs but he rarely releases any mixtape/album that doesn't have a lot of shit on it.

Like what you like, but it's true that most of those bands (that you like) have questionable lyrics.. I mean, really, to hate Lil Wayne and like 3!OH!3/Family Force Five confuses me.

[Jumpoff]

It actually wasn't a trap :shrug:

Regardless. Propagandhi.

[Troggy]

Regardless. Propagandhi.

Yeah I'm cool with that.

[alltimehoe93]

Lil Wayne is listened to largely because of his flow; the lyrics are second ranking. I do like some of his songs but he rarely releases any mixtape/album that doesn't have a lot of shit on it.

Like what you like, but it's true that most of those bands (that you like) have questionable lyrics.. I mean, really, to hate Lil Wayne and like 3!OH!3/Family Force Five confuses me.
I'm shying away from 3OH!3 if anything. I really liked their single so I checked them out. I can laugh at their lyrics more than sit there and analyze. Obviously I'm not about to list them under 'Best lyrics'...ever.
Family Force 5 is more of an easy listen, but I don't think their lyrics are poor. Not even close to comparable with Lil' Wayne. And I have issues with Lil' Wayne beyond his lyrics.

[Jumpoff]

I'm shying away from 3OH!3 if anything. I really liked their single so I checked them out. I can laugh at their lyrics more than sit there and analyze. Obviously I'm not about to list them under 'Best lyrics'...ever.
Family Force 5 is more of an easy listen, but I don't think their lyrics are poor. Not even close to comparable with Lil' Wayne. And I have issues with Lil' Wayne beyond his lyrics.

I think the lyrics are worse than Lil Wayne's, but on purpose perhaps.. but what would you consider a "hard listen" as compared to FF5?

[GuitarR0cker1]

This thread is great.

[Troggy]

For the record Lil Wayne has been writing a sports blog for ESPN magazine online and it is actually pretty entertaining. I have never heard any of his songs, but for that alone, he deserves some credit.

[alltimehoe93]

OK. Act your age. Great.
What, you expect me to act your age and be more "mature" with my taste?
I listen to what I listen to now. In the years to come, that will most likely change.
Regardless, it's my taste in music. What effect is that having on you that you have to care so much?

[Jumpoff]

What, you expect me to act your age and be more "mature" with my taste?
I listen to what I listen to now. In the years to come, that will most likely change.
Regardless, it's my taste in music. What effect is that having on you that you have to care so much?

Totally should be LESS mature and start listening to NoFX, The Ergs, and The Descendents. Maturity sucks.

[alltimehoe93]

I think the lyrics are worse than Lil Wayne's, but on purpose perhaps.. but what would you consider a "hard listen" as compared to FF5?
Using "easy listen" was a poor choice of words on my part. I suppose I listen to Family Force 5 for the reason you listed that people listen to Lil Wayne. It's more for the sound. But in any event, I still think that Lil Wayne's lyrics are much much worse than anything that's come from FF5

[Jumpoff]

http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/hi-res/propagandhi_gas.jpg

[Colorblind!]

Totally should be LESS mature and start listening to NoFX, The Ergs, and The Descendents. Maturity sucks.

Tru punx.

I could not get into the ergs.

[alltimehoe93]

Totally should be LESS mature and start listening to NoFX, The Ergs, and The Descendents. Maturity sucks.
I haven't heard NoFX or The Descendents but I heard something by The Ergs a while back and they didn't seem so bad.
I really don't care if people are going to say my taste is mature or immature. I don't see why you all care in the first place.

[Duexy]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2dsmp9s.jpg

[Troggy]

What, you expect me to act your age and be more "mature" with my taste?
I listen to what I listen to now. In the years to come, that will most likely change.
Regardless, it's my taste in music. What effect is that having on you that you have to care so much?

No I didn't say anything about changing your taste. I am just wondering how so many kids who "like what they like" end up listening to exactly the same bands, which are all more or less clones of each other. I was just asking for general knowledge because I can't go back to being that age. I could have picked lots of other people to ask the same question you just happened to be here when I felt like asking. Perhaps I will see what others similar to you think about it.

[alltimehoe93]

No I didn't say anything about changing your taste. I am just wondering how so many kids who "like what they like" end up listening to exactly the same bands, which are all more or less clones of each other. I was just asking for general knowledge because I can't go back to being that age. I could have picked lots of other people to ask the same question you just happened to be here when I felt like asking. Perhaps I will see what others similar to you think about it.
I appreciate that you actually have a valid argument. That's actually kind of interesting. I know what you mean though. I just think more of a pop sound is appealing on a whole. I don't know, that's just my own taste.

[Jumpoff]

I haven't heard NoFX or The Descendents but I heard something by The Ergs a while back and they didn't seem so bad.
I really don't care if people are going to say my taste is mature or immature. I don't see why you all care in the first place.

I'm kidding. No need to take it so serious. But really. Wasn't kidding bout those three. Totally should listen. When it comes to the Descendents, I recommend you stick to Everything Sucks and Cool to Be You because they are pop punk basically.. though Cool to be You is heavy on the pop side, while their older stuff (like Milo Goes to College, one of the best albums ever) is more hardcore with pop punk leanings.

NoFX is obvious. (Lots of juvenile humor though so maybe you won't like it)

And the Ergs are awesome and ust broke up. Get into it. They are like an even more poppy Descendents.

EDIT: If you actually care I can upload a song or two by each of these guys for you to check out.

[alltimehoe93]

I'm kidding. No need to take it so serious. But really. Wasn't kidding bout those three. Totally should listen. When it comes to the Descendents, I recommend you stick to Everything Sucks and Cool to Be You because they are pop punk basically.. though Cool to be You is heavy on the pop side, while their older stuff (like Milo Goes to College, one of the best albums ever) is more hardcore with pop punk leanings.

NoFX is obvious. (Lots of juvenile humor though so maybe you won't like it)

And the Ergs are awesome and ust broke up. Get into it. They are like an even more poppy Descendents.
Sorry about that, I was taking the other guy...what was it, Troggy? Yeah, I was reacting to what he was saying more seriously. By the way you describe it, I'd probably like Cool to be You a lot because I have a tendency to like more pop than punk.
hah why, I don't strike you as the type to have a juvenile sense of humor?
Huh, I'll have to listen to more of The Ergs. Thanks for the recommendations.
I do care, I'd appreciate that thanks. I'll take recommendations with an open mind.

[Troggy]

I appreciate that you actually have a valid argument. That's actually kind of interesting. I know what you mean though. I just think more of a pop sound is appealing on a whole. I don't know, that's just my own taste.

Right. I understand that. I used to have a lot of CDs like that (still trying to get rid of a few), but what is really interesting to me is that there is a heck of a lot of music with a "pop sound" and I like quite a few bands that may be described that way, but people your age seem to only branch out to a select few yet to be heard bands.

Some of the bands are mainstream, Boys like Girls, FTSK, Metro Station, but the other ones are unknowns as of now and kids have managed to "discover" all of those, but don't listen to other pop sensible records that may be pretty different. The internet is a pretty big place, how did you stumble upon the ones that you did?

[Jumpoff]

Sorry about that, I was taking the other guy...what was it, Troggy? Yeah, I was reacting to what he was saying more seriously. By the way you describe it, I'd probably like Cool to be You a lot because I have a tendency to like more pop than punk.
hah why, I don't strike you as the type to have a juvenile sense of humor?
Huh, I'll have to listen to more of The Ergs. Thanks for the recommendations.
I do care, I'd appreciate that thanks. I'll take recommendations with an open mind.

Haha I tend to assume noone has a juvenile sense of humor unless I know them. Saves me the awkwardness later after said person hears a song like "Instant Crassic" :whistle:

[alltimehoe93]

Right. I understand that. I used to have a lot of CDs like that (still trying to get rid of a few), but what is really interesting to me is that there is a heck of a lot of music with a "pop sound" and I like quite a few bands that may be described that way, but people your age seem to only branch out to a select few yet to be heard bands.

Some of the bands are mainstream, Boys like Girls, FTSK, Metro Station, but the other ones are unknowns as of now and kids have managed to "discover" all of those, but don't listen to other pop sensible records that may be pretty different. The internet is a pretty big place, how did you stumble upon the ones that you did?
Yeah, I mean I really don't like that so many kids seem to stick to the same couple of bands. I'll admit that I like them but there are some bands that are still so small and whose main focus is currently building their fan base on myspace. I would like to hope that I'm not the same way because I'll listen to any new band that I find. A good one is The Downtown Fiction and I find them to be more pop than anything else but I really like them and no one really knows them because they're quite new.
Are you asking how I came across the bands I listen to right now? My main source of music for a little while has been my best friend, my taste in music is kind of a less varied version of hers. But I have a myspace and I'm so glad that bands friend so many people in hopes of gaining a few fans because I find some amazing bands that way.

[Duexy]

any band that tries to add me on myspace is automatically categorized as garbagefuckery.

[alltimehoe93]

Haha I tend to assume noone has a juvenile sense of humor unless I know them. Saves me the awkwardness later after said person hears a song like "Instant Crassic" :whistle:
haha, I just looked that song up and listened to it. I laughed so I guess I have a juvenile sense of humor haha

[alltimehoe93]

any band that tries to add me on myspace is automatically categorized as garbagefuckery.
hahah, nice word.
I listen to all of the people that add me.

[Troggy]

Yeah, I mean I really don't like that so many kids seem to stick to the same couple of bands. I'll admit that I like them but there are some bands that are still so small and whose main focus is currently building their fan base on myspace. I would like to hope that I'm not the same way because I'll listen to any new band that I find. A good one is The Downtown Fiction and I find them to be more pop than anything else but I really like them and no one really knows them because they're quite new.

Are you asking how I came across the bands I listen to right now? My main source of music for a little while has been my best friend, my taste in music is kind of a less varied version of hers. But I have a myspace and I'm so glad that bands friend so many people in hopes of gaining a few fans because I find some amazing bands that way.

You know, I remember having a very similar attitude at your age. I would listen to any new band I could find. The thing is, virtually none of your favorite bands have more than 1 or 2 albums. They are all very new and are gaining success partly because of each other. My CDs at that age had a lot in common with that, lots of debut albums, a couple follow ups if they were out already, but I was searching for the most obscure bands that sounded the same to what I already liked. As it turned out, those bands being obscure didn't make them any good.

Myspace is a double edged sword. It has listings for all kinds of great artists, but I feel like the new generation of myspace users doesn't look back in time to bands that have established themselves already, but is out to hunt the next big thing before they are big.

[alltimehoe93]

You know, I remember having a very similar attitude at your age. I would listen to any new band I could find. The thing is, virtually none of your favorite bands have more than 1 or 2 albums. They are all very new and are gaining success partly because of each other. My CDs at that age had a lot in common with that, lots of debut albums, a couple follow ups if they were out already, but I was searching for the most obscure bands that sounded the same to what I already liked. As it turned out, those bands being obscure didn't make them any good.

Myspace is a double edged sword. It has listings for all kinds of great artists, but I feel like the new generation of myspace users doesn't look back in time to bands that have established themselves already, but is out to hunt the next big thing before they are big.
I'm not going to try and argue with you because what you said is exactly right. I mean, I care about the bands putting out records. I don't care if I'm one of the 'original' fans or whatever those people who pride themselves on being an older fan call themselves. In all honesty, people who parade around saying that they knew a band that's currently big before they got so huge bother me to no end because they don't seem to care enough about the music itself but rather the popularity of the band. The point of a band is the music, not how long you've known them. I like listening to new bands to give them a chance and so that I can follow through with bands that I really like. You probably assumed and are correct in assuming that the bands I listen to are all newer bands. The thing is, I wish the big explosive buzz over some of my favorite bands would die down and I know they will at some point because as much as I think they deserve the praise, people are too obsessed with what's popular instead of the music. It's really quite annoying.

[Duexy]

and then when said band becomes too big and too mainstream their cds are dropped like wet food stamps.


i admit wholeheartedly that i would rather suck dick at an aids clinic than listen to alot of the trash alot of mainstream bands put out, but people have gotten to the point where if anyone outside of their circle of CQQL kids likes a band, they have to move to something else. obscurity doesn't make band good AT ALL. its one thing to hate on a band because they've let the fame/image get to their heads, great and well known example being My Chemical Romance...its understandable and obvious why people trash them.

a friend of mine told me he hates Coheed and Cambria now because they're too well known...because they've had too many music videos show up on MTV and because too many "****" are into them now. do people not have their own opinions any more? i loved coheed and cambria from when I first heard their material as shabutie, damn near a decade ago, and no matter what garbage/slip-ups/shit-albums they put out I'll probably still think of them as great artists.

a majority of the time a good band band is going to get popular because..well...they're fucking good.

[Duexy]

and before anyone gets dicksore that wasn't directed towards anyone, just a small rant i had to get out.

[jtsnazzy]

and before anyone gets dicksore that wasn't directed towards anyone, just a small rant i had to get out.

too late, now i'm dicksore

[DilesMavis]

Saetia is screamo.

The Devil Wears Prada or Drop Dead Gorgeous or whatever the fuck "scene" kids these days listen to and call their shitty flavor of the week metalcore groups screamo, is not.

Why is Saetia always the typical name-drop response when the topic is on screamo? I'm not targeting you, in my opinion there were better screamo bands out there at the time, and even before them. Don't get me wrong I think Saetia is ace, or I did anyway when I liked them a lot. It's kinda like, "when in doubt drop Saetia when proving you know what screamo is!"

Meh, rant. :P

[Duexy]

too late, now i'm dicksore


bizzaro-world me would offer to massage it out for you

alas, this is not the bizzaro universe.

[Jumpoff]

Why is Saetia always the typical name-drop response when the topic is on screamo? I'm not targeting you, in my opinion there were better screamo bands out there at the time, and even before them. Don't get me wrong I think Saetia is ace, or I did anyway when I liked them a lot. It's kinda like, "when in doubt drop Saetia when proving you know what screamo is!"

Meh, rant. :P

When I'm namedropping screamo bands I always try to go more obscurely named like Khayembii Communique. But Pg. 99, Orchid, and CoC are so much better than Saetia.

[DilesMavis]

When I'm namedropping screamo bands I always try to go more obscurely named like Khayembii Communique. But Pg. 99, Orchid, and CoC are so much better than Saetia.

Hehe :P. You're joking with me aren't ya.
I kind of agree. I'm not big on pg.99 though, and I respect Orchid greatly, great lyrics, great band. City of Caterpillar definitely takes the cake for me though, backed on that. I liked a lot more songs that they did as opposed to Saetia. I really like Neil Perry and Suis La Lune... That's good though! Agreed.

[Jumpoff]

Hehe :P. You're joking with me aren't ya.
I kind of agree. I'm not big on pg.99 though, and I respect Orchid greatly, great lyrics, great band. City of Caterpillar definitely takes the cake for me though, backed on that. I liked a lot more songs that they did as opposed to Saetia. I really like Neil Perry and Suis La Lune... That's good though! Agreed.

Totally serious. I've always wanted to namedrop Bravo Fucking Bravo too just because of how awesome II's artwork is couldn't because I've never listened :-(

[Nevuk]

II is a decent album. Not the best or anything, but it's listenable.

[Getup and Dance]

Why is Saetia always the typical name-drop response when the topic is on screamo? I'm not targeting you, in my opinion there were better screamo bands out there at the time, and even before them. Don't get me wrong I think Saetia is ace, or I did anyway when I liked them a lot. It's kinda like, "when in doubt drop Saetia when proving you know what screamo is!"

Meh, rant. :P

Its usually either Saetia, Circle Takes the Square, or Hot Cross.

[thesafeword]

I'm shying away from 3OH!3 if anything. I really liked their single so I checked them out. I can laugh at their lyrics more than sit there and analyze. Obviously I'm not about to list them under 'Best lyrics'...ever.
Family Force 5 is more of an easy listen, but I don't think their lyrics are poor. Not even close to comparable with Lil' Wayne. And I have issues with Lil' Wayne beyond his lyrics.
3OH!3 and Family Force 5 are pure shit.

[[DontEverLie]]

haha, I just looked that song up and listened to it. I laughed so I guess I have a juvenile sense of humor haha

+ me too XD +

[Mxbaby511]

What Id like to know is,
whats wrong with being a "scene kidd"
Anyone care to explain?

[SLoT]

some "metalheads" in my guitar class call everything that's not led zeppelin or guns n roses "emo". silverstein? emo. as i lay dying? emo. job for a cowboy? emo. mineral? emo. underoath? emo. as cities burn? emo. surfjan stevens? emo. arcade fire? emo. starting line? emo. valencia? emo. finch? emo. you get it.
silverstein? emo... yes.
as i lay dying? emo...yes.
job for a cowboy? emo... yes.
mineral? emo... yes.
underoath? emo... yes.
as cities burn? emo... yes.
sufjan stevens? emo... yes.
arcade fire? emo... yes.
starting line? emo... yes.
valencia? emo...yes.
finch? emo... yes.
you get it? emo... yes.
sarcasm? emo... check

[Jumpoff]

What Id like to know is,
whats wrong with being a "scene kidd"
Anyone care to explain?

Nothing. The music is just easy to make fun of.

Matter of fact, it would be pretty awesome if Warped stopped inviting the 4-5 good bands per year that it allows and just kept it to the shitty norms since that way those shitty bands wouldn't waste up time slots in my local venues..

[Mxbaby511]

Thanks for the clarification.
I just see a lot of people hating on scene kidds
But I really dont see what theyve done to be so hated
Beside liking what they like.

[Jumpoff]

Every stereotype gets hate from someone. Scene kids are not unique at all in that aspect.

[Mxbaby511]

Not really. We just take it to an extreme level that it probably never should have reached.

[Jumpoff]

"wiggers" and "mohawked punks" have been around longer and receive far more hate than scene kids generally. From scene kids at times too.

[mht]

Why is Saetia always the typical name-drop response when the topic is on screamo? I'm not targeting you, in my opinion there were better screamo bands out there at the time, and even before them. Don't get me wrong I think Saetia is ace, or I did anyway when I liked them a lot. It's kinda like, "when in doubt drop Saetia when proving you know what screamo is!"

Meh, rant. :P

Funny part is, they werent even the best band on their label back in their time period of being a band and making music.

[thesafeword]

Every stereotype gets hate from someone. Scene kids are not unique at all in that aspect.
Scene kids aren't unique in any aspect.

[Nevuk]

Scene kids aren't unique in any aspect.
Who is?

[Jumpoff]

Who is?

I was going to respond to that post in a longer drawn out response that is pretty much saying exactly this. So thanks. :highfive:

[Rawrr]

No, no my friends, true emo? Thats Saves The Day.

[DilesMavis]

Its usually either Saetia, Circle Takes the Square, or Hot Cross.

Funny part is, they werent even the best band on their label back in their time period of being a band and making music.

Yeah! I can't stand CTTS :|! Eek. But I see them constantly dropped too. I guess they're a good door way into that genre and it's generally the first band people are recommended with, so it makes sense.

I KNOW! Did they even have as many fans as they do now? I guess it kind of makes sense how there'd be more fans now and all...I don't even think I can talk. But on this forum I go to, there's like a cult following for them. Even to this day I really don't understand it LOL. <--- There :P! I said it.

[Duexy]

Scene kids aren't unique in any aspect.
this

[lurker411_k9]

The only time genre classifications bother me is when some of my friends just call anything catchy, soft or slow, "emo".

This. The fucking hardcore kids in my area refer to any song with clean singing as "emo vocals".

I rage so fucking hard each time.

[Nevuk]

This. The fucking hardcore kids in my area refer to any song with clean singing as "emo vocals".

I rage so fucking hard each time.
Louisville hardcore kids make me laugh really hard actually. But I mean, I understand what they're saying if they mean Elliott or a band with similar vocals.