Fall Out Boy Review

[Ryan Mills]

Scott and I thought we would do something different for this review, so we did a conversational review, where the entire review is a discussion we had about the album. You can find our review of Fall Out Boy (http://www.falloutboyrock.com) - From Under the Cork Tree right here (http://www.absolutepunk.net/reviews/showproduct.php?product=721).

[Signals Corrupted]

haha brutal

[bustamebus]

haha. wowza. that makes alot of good points. but i kinda like the cd. i think their music got alot better, like instrument wise, but their lyrics are worst than their old stuff. but pretty good cd.

[Pat Marquez]

Haha, here come six pages of people hating on Scott and Ryan.

[Darren McLeod]

Haha, here come six pages of people hating on Scott and Ryan.
Haha you said it, Pat. +Scene points for the perfect prediction, and the awesome ETID signature. That's a nice pic.

I agree with a lot of what you guys said, but I'd still say it was an above-average pop-punk album, so I'd give it higher than a 5, at least. I think hype just skewed everything.

[Pat Marquez]

Haha you said it, Pat. +Scene points for the perfect prediction, and the awesome ETID signature. That's a nice pic.

I agree with a lot of what you guys said, but I'd still say it was an above-average pop-punk album, so I'd give it higher than a 5, at least. I think hype just skewed everything.
I like Everytime I Die, a lot. haha.

[zooyork96]

these lyrics are fucking ground breaking, WOWWWWWWWWW

[Darren McLeod]

I like Everytime I Die, a lot. haha.
As do I. Hot Damn was pretty much the only thing in my car last summer. I still listen to it before sports as my warm up CD... and pretty much all the time. Gutter Phenomenon is one of my most anticipated albums of the year.

[FourStarters]

I agree with most of the review...the first CD is tons better than the second.

I just find it funny that the site that has pimped, promoted, and figuratively sucked the dicks of Fall Out Boy slams the album it had previously proclaimed the equivalent of the second coming.

[Ryan Mills]

Oh, for the record, if you're going to give me negative scene points, I do see who does it, so leave a nice message! Woo.

[The Gray Ghost]

That review was how my feelings were on their last album, but I like From Under The Cork Tree.

[Darren McLeod]

I agree with most of the review...the first CD is tons better than the second.

I just find it funny that the site that has pimped, promoted, and figuratively sucked the dicks of Fall Out Boy slams the album it had previously proclaimed the equivalent of the second coming.
There are many different people working on the site, and they all don't have to hold the same opinion. What Scott likes isn't necessarily what Jason likes, and what Kamtin likes isn't necessarily what Ryan likes, etc etc. Also, maybe they thought the album would be a lot better, because they just kept thinking of Take This To Your Grave, or maybe the new songs sounded better live.

[Scott Weber]

I agree with most of the review...the first CD is tons better than the second.

I just find it funny that the site that has pimped, promoted, and figuratively sucked the dicks of Fall Out Boy slams the album it had previously proclaimed the equivalent of the second coming.
I'm sure we'll see another review written on this, but the reviewers are different than the news posters...that's why you see contradicting opinions.

I want subway for lunch.

[FourStarters]

Can I ask what the fuck is with the spoken word at the end of "Get Busy Living..."?

Was it there in the leaked "You're A Concrete Boy Now"?

[mondeoman]

I love the new album but hey that's me. Scott and Ryan didn't like it therefore they gave a poor review. The review style was pretty interesting. Big props there.

[dubey]

I only liked a few songs from their last album so I didn't really have high expectations. I love this album though. I've been playing it constantly for the past few days and haven't gotten tired of it at all. I'd give it atleast a solid 8.

This album is probably going to be one of those love or hate/hit or miss ones but I think Fall Out Boy is going to blow up as soon as the album comes out.

[mondeoman]

I'm sure we'll see another review written on this, but the reviewers are different than the news posters...that's why you see contradicting opinions.

I want subway for lunch.
Subway sounds sexy right now. And it's only a 5 minute walk away. Score!

[NFG4ever]

Great review guys.... I thought it was done very well
Im still excited to here it tho , i've heard plenty of good and bad

[beefhung]

totally agree with them, fob spent more time coming up with song titles than writing good songs.

[Ryan Mills]

Subway sounds sexy right now. And it's only a 5 minute walk away. Score!

Big props for maturity.

[staygold]

that was probably the worst review i've ever read. your whole "discussion" theme was gayer than aids ... please die

[s.deel.besonym]

I think that either my ears are clogged or I am completely a fool. I think that Patrick's voice shines on this CD much moreso than on TTTYG due to his vocal solos and the vocal intensive songs like Dark Alley. He IS the band, his voice is what puts FOB apart from the rest of trashy Pop Punk bands out there. And yes, the lyrics are something to take note of. Look at the rest of the POP-PUNK scene. "Joke me something awful, like kisses on the necks of 'just friends,' we're the kids who feel like dead ends." The song is somber, and the lyrics are very well done for the mood of the song. This goes for the whole CD. I completely agree about the screaming match at the end of "I Slept With Someone..." but I think it's cool to hear what Pete and Chad (from NFG) used to do in their olden days.

But to each his own. That was just a nasty nasty review, guys. Harsh. Be nice.

[mondeoman]

Big props for maturity.
haha that would have probably gone better with the first thing I said. haha

[Scott Weber]

But to each his own. That was just a nasty nasty review, guys. Harsh. Be nice.
it really wasn't mean, dude. It was far more critical than anything else, it was just a back and forth analysis.

[BrandNew20]

To Ryan and Scott...I'm not hearing where the production sounds muddy with the instruments, I was just wondering what tracks, in particular, you heard that the most on...I've still only heard 7 songs from the album, so maybe I just don't have those songs.

[timmysavedlatin]

i agree with most of what these guys said, and im HUUUGE fall out boy fan. on the first cd, the lyrics came natural, and it was a fun cd (musically) with mostly brand new-esque lyrics. on this cd, the lyrics all sound forced. i think the melodies on the choruses save a lot of the songs though. what REALLY kills it for me is the poem from pete at the end of "get busy living or get busy dying". that was just uncalled for. a lot of this stuff seems like something that hot topic would be dying to sell. id say i like about 9 out of the 13 songs. i still love patrick's voice, but i expected a lot more with the lyrics. (and what's with the alt-rock gin blossoms sounding song?) this is just MY opinion though.

[fluke182]

The album seems ok, definitely not as catchy or instantly sing-along-able as Take This to Your Grave, if that is in fact a word. It just doesn't draw me in at all. Course I didn't really love TTtYG, only individual tracks.

[timmysavedlatin]

I think that either my ears are clogged or I am completely a fool. I think that Patrick's voice shines on this CD much moreso than on TTTYG due to his vocal solos and the vocal intensive songs like Dark Alley. He IS the band, his voice is what puts FOB apart from the rest of trashy Pop Punk bands out there. And yes, the lyrics are something to take note of. Look at the rest of the POP-PUNK scene. "Joke me something awful, like kisses on the necks of 'just friends,' we're the kids who feel like dead ends." The song is somber, and the lyrics are very well done for the mood of the song. This goes for the whole CD. I completely agree about the screaming match at the end of "I Slept With Someone..." but I think it's cool to hear what Pete and Chad (from NFG) used to do in their olden days.

But to each his own. That was just a nasty nasty review, guys. Harsh. Be nice.

i completely agree with you about pat's voice.

[bleedingemo]

i completely disagree with you guys... my first listen when i had the 7 track promo, i hated those songs, and i knew that if the albums was like these i wouldn't stand most of the songs on it, and would want my old fall out boy back. so i didn't listen to it very much, just so i wouldn't hate those songs with a passion by the time the album came out. now that i have the whole thing, and have listened a number of times on the computer and in my car. i love it..

[Scott Weber]

To Ryan and Scott...I'm not hearing where the production sounds muddy with the instruments, I was just wondering what tracks, in particular, you heard that the most on...I've still only heard 7 songs from the album, so maybe I just don't have those songs.
I don't think you have to look any farther than the single for that, although I feel it's muddy in all of the songs.

[MidniteVulture]

i(and what's with the alt-rock gin blossoms sounding song?)If there is a Gin Blossoms-sounding song on here, then I'm slightly more amped for the release.

[bleedingemo]

harsh for how much fall out boy reps this website. a major link to abs. punk on the new website droppin with the album and pete writing on the message board good things about jason and the whole website here.

don't mistake what two people think as for what the rest of the staff or people on the site think.. everyone has a different opinion.

[splitsecond]

I have to say that is probably the most entertaining review I have ever read on this site...


But one thing: Since when is FOB supposed to be lighthearted and summery? I personally like the darker overtones on this album, and find the lyrics to be much more tongue in cheek than their previous work.

Either way, people can hate on the album all they want, but this one is gonna earn the FOB boys their platinum.

[timmysavedlatin]

If there is a Gin Blossoms-sounding song on here, then I'm slightly more amped for the release.

haha it just sounds very alt-rock with acoustic guitars and low-distortion guitars. kinda like a really bad counting crows/oasis song. (i like both of those bands by the way)

[yeknom]

yea, i agree with the reveiw for the most part, but i would have given it a 5 or 6, but i wasn't expecting them to impress there is no hype factor on my part.

[ShoeSh1ne]

[Ryan]: I think ________.
[Scott]: I totally agree.
[Ryan]: Also, __________.
[Scott]: Totally, I agree.
[Scott]: I think that ________.
[Ryan]: I couldn't have said it better.

Sorry, had to.

[Scott Weber]

don't mistake what two people think as for what the rest of the staff or people on the site think.. everyone has a different opinion.
Yeah, seriously guys. We don't represent AP in it's entirety, and I'm sure Jason or Garrett will write a review, they probably enjoy it a lot more than us.

all you guys ever talk about is how favorable our reviews are, then the minute we are critical about a popular album, you state the exact reasons of why i write more positive reviews than negative. it's hilarious.

[JealousFreak]

Damn, I personally agree with this review. Finally, two people are able to agree how overrated this band is and that they are not as talented as everyone thinks they are. Sure, the first album was good but this one is not as good, but everyone is afraid to insult FOB because that would not be cool. Fuck, get off the damn bandwagon biatches and be honest with yourself, the new FOB album just doesn't live up to the hype. No one had a problem bashing the second TBS album. :animateds

[yeknom]

harsh for how much fall out boy reps this website. a major link to abs. punk on the new website droppin with the album and pete writing on the message board good things about jason and the whole website here.

yea, you're right. I guess every band that supports this website should get a good review, damn, you are smart indeed.

[ActorInThisPlay]

yeah no offense to Ryan because I feel he is one of the most honest people on here, but with the music that he likes, he is not a very good fit to review this album. I mean with all the bands that he recommends, I have yet to listen to and like any of them for the most part. It just seems that if you are going to get someone to review the album, don't get for example a hardcore guy to review a pop-punk album, not saying that Ryan is hardcore, its just an analogy. I dunno but I do know that Scott does like pop-punk occasionally as he has stated he likes the new Acceptance CD which I just can't stop listening to. I have yet to receive my FOB CD in the mail yet but from the songs I hear, I pretty much would say that I am going to enjoy this CD very much as TTTYG is one of my favorite CD's in my collection.

[Scott Weber]

for the record, i think fall out boy are great guys and they are extremely nice to this website and everyone else in the scene, I've heard nothing but great things about them. but that doesn't change how me or ryan feel about the music itself.

[philadelphiakid]

Hahaha. I woke up today in an absolutely terrible fucking mood. I come down and open up Abs Punk and got the biggest laugh I've had in weeks. Bravo to Scott and Ryan for actually speaking their mind and not just playing this off as another "amazing" album. For me, this album is extremely forgettable, although "Dance, Dance" is an excellent song and will definately be finding its way onto summer mix tapes.

And I'm very, very surprised to see the FOB fans taking this so well. Where the fuck are the flamewars? Or are you all hiding in a closet cause this album absolutely shit the bed???? ;)

[Scott Weber]

It just seems that if you are going to get someone to review the album, don't get for example a hardcore guy to review a pop-punk album, not saying that Ryan is hardcore, its just an analogy. I dunno but I do know that Scott does like pop-punk occasionally as he has stated he likes the new Acceptance CD which I just can't stop listening to.
i see what you're saying, it's not that cut and dry though. For example, read ryan's review of Cartel - that's pop-punk, and he enjoys it. I obviously like the new acceptance a lot. it's just that we happened to agree for the most part on this album, although Ryan felt stronger about it than me.

[Pat Marquez]

You guys are so ridiculous. GET OVER THE PERSONAL STUFF, it is two people's opinion about the album. I seriously doubt Fall Out Boy will take offense, they have to undertstand that they won't appeal to everyone.

[smogs]

Damn, I personally agree with this review. Finally, two people are able to agree how overrated this band is and that they are not as talented as everyone thinks they are. Sure, the first album was good but this one is not as good, but everyone is afraid to insult FOB because that would not be cool. Fuck, get off the damn bandwagon biatches and be honest with yourself, the new FOB album just doesn't live up to the hype. No one had a problem bashing the second TBS album. :animateds


You spoke my mind, SCENE POINTS FOR YOU.

[irthesteve]

i havnt heard the cd yet, but it was a really cool review style...

im pretty sure im gonna like the cd thou regardless of what scott and ryan say

[s.deel.besonym]

I think Petey's a tool ;) But seriously, I feel like my ears are fucked up after reading that review. How can two people hear such different things? I hear better production on his vocals, and I hear a really nice balance between bass guitar and vox. I'm one of those kids that HAS to understand everything/everyone's point of view, and my ears just don't agree. Frustrating.

[steve-0]

I like the album alot, but I do see where they are coming from. The production isnt very crisp. The songs arent as memorable as their last album. THey make good points which I agree with, but I wouldnt take it as far as they do. I would go ahead and give this album about a 7 or 7.5

[Pat Marquez]

I like the album alot, but I do see where they are coming from. The production isnt very crisp. The songs arent as memorable as their last album. THey make good points which I agree with, but I wouldnt take it as far as they do. I would go ahead and give this album about a 7 or 7.5
Your signature is hilarious.

[yeknom]

listen to ryan adams new album(s)

[splitsecond]

Also, I would like to add that I am SHOCKED that Ryan thinks an album that many many many other people love is boring.

[kittypants]

I appreciate Ryan and Scott's honest opinions.

[supadupa003]

Damn, I personally agree with this review. Finally, two people are able to agree how overrated this band is and that they are not as talented as everyone thinks they are. Sure, the first album was good but this one is not as good, but everyone is afraid to insult FOB because that would not be cool. Fuck, get off the damn bandwagon biatches and be honest with yourself, the new FOB album just doesn't live up to the hype. No one had a problem bashing the second TBS album. :animateds

exactly what he said. It's nice to see people be honest about this band and not feel they have to hype up the album for the sake of looking cool. This album has been overhyped and there is nothing refreshing or amazing from it. People find Fall Out Boy awesome because they get the hype of being 'clever' pop punk when its just like everything else.

[Manbotisdead]

Looks like this album wasn't number 1 with a bullet.

I used to love this band, then I started listening to good music.

[PaperclipAnemia]

the hardcore parts on this cd are terrible. I personally like sophmore clump/7 minutes/gin joints/ sugar.

Also...are they trying to be AFI at the end of "Concrete Boy Now"?

[Pat Marquez]

Also, I would like to add that I am SHOCKED that Ryan thinks an album that many many many other people love is boring.
What is that supposed to mean? So he has an opinion. Have you seen what he does listen to? It's not pop-punk and most pop-punk IS boring. And I do like Fall Out Boy btw.

[bleedingemo]

I used to love this band, then I started listening to good music.

and whats good music? coheed and cambria?

you've got to be kidding me.

[two_days_slow]

the hardcore parts on this cd are terrible. I personally like sophmore clump/7 minutes/gin joints/ sugar.

Also...are they trying to be AFI at the end of "get busy living, get busy dying"?
Yes, the screaming is absolutely horrible, It makes Hawthorne Heights look like Gods! The album its self is decent, but after seeing these guys live a couple of weeks ago I lost all excitement for the album. I'll stick to the Acceptance and Four Alarrm Fire cd.

[Pat Marquez]

listen to ryan adams new album(s)
Now Ryan Adams is a good man, I love his music.

[philadelphiakid]

Yes, the screaming is absolutely horrible, It makes Hawthorne Heights look like Gods! The album its self is decent, but after seeing these guys live a couple of weeks ago I lost all excitement for the album. I'll stick to the Acceptance and Four Alarrm Fire cd.

Please don't ever use 'Hawthorne Heights' and 'God' in the same sentence again.


Ever.

[Ryan Mills]

I think Petey's a tool ;) But seriously, I feel like my ears are fucked up after reading that review. How can two people hear such different things? I hear better production on his vocals, and I hear a really nice balance between bass guitar and vox. I'm one of those kids that HAS to understand everything/everyone's point of view, and my ears just don't agree. Frustrating.

I just thought it was not a very solid, crisp sound to it. Seriously, it shouldn't have been that hard to do either in the production. Even Cartel's self-released EP sounded better than this roduction wise. It's just not mixed well...everything seems to run together.

What is that supposed to mean? So he has an opinion. Have you seen what he does listen to? It's not pop-punk and most pop-punk IS boring. And I do like Fall Out Boy btw.

He's still bitter about the Mae review.

[hXc_pwnage]

I think the review was a bit too harsh, but overall I agree.

I think they went backwards. I'm usually not one to compare albums, because I hate it, but it's hard not to here. I mean, I loved Take This To Your Grave. I can listen to that cd at any time. It's fun, catchy, and just overall a good put together record. Then came this record. They have too many hit or miss songs. Some songs jump out, others make me want to not even listen to this cd anymore. It's just kind of like, what happened? This isn't the Fall Out Boy I remember. Their sound may have "matured," but that doesn't always mean it gets better. I'm just hoping that the next record will be much much better.

But a 4.5? And a 3.9? Come on. It isn't that bad.

[PaperclipAnemia]

I just thought it was not a very solid, crisp sound to it. Seriously, it shouldn't have been that hard to do either in the production. Even Cartel's self-released EP sounded better than this roduction wise. It's just not mixed well...everything seems to run together.



He's still bitter about the Mae review.
i think my grandma is still bitter about the mae review.

[GAD_guy]

2 years ago fall out boy was one of my favorite bands. even before i heard the album, i knew take this to your grave was going to live in my cd player once it came out. this based on some mp3.com tracks from the album, a slew of demos, and a couple other songs (yule shoot your eye out, etc). but in those past 2 years i have ceased to enjoy much pop-punk. pop-punk is what introduced me to non-mainstream music in the first place (credit nfg's nothing gold can stay) but i have just moved into more substantial (in my opinion) music. every now and then ill hear a catchy song and listen to it for a couple days before i get sick of it.
anyway, i was still excited to hear the new fall out boy album becuase i remembered how much i loved the last one. then i saw the tracklisting.... stupid. that's all i could think of. trite and forced. not a good start. then i heard sugar we're going down. not bad, catchy, but not up to par with take this to your grave. then i heard the rest of the album. not one memorable track on it. the lyrics are nowhere near as impressive to me as they once were. the hooks just arent as catchy. the drums just arent as awesome. i figure its just me and for some reason i have lost my taste in music like this. everyone seems to be in love with it. i don't know.
i pretty much agree with everything you guys said in your "review"

[Scott Weber]

and whats good music? coheed and cambria?

you've got to be kidding me.
actually, yes. Coheed is amazing music.

[supadupa003]

Now Ryan Adams is a good man, I love his music.

What's a good Ryan Adams song to listen to? You've got me interested haha.

[GAD_guy]

Please don't ever use 'Hawthorne Heights' and 'God' in the same sentence again.


Ever.
how about saying hawthorne heights is god-awful?

[philadelphiakid]

about saying hawthorne heights is god-awful?

You proved me wrong. Points for you!!!! :animateds

[yeknom]

What's a good Ryan Adams song to listen to? You've got me interested haha.

come pick me up is one of my favorites,and i love his rendition of wonderwall; also you can stream the whole new album at the website, which is great.

how about saying hawthorne heights is god-awful?

oooohhhhh witty.

[hXc_pwnage]

actually, yes. Coheed is amazing music.
Seriously.

Let me see you throw out shit like Coheed does.

Oh wait, you can't.

Bleedingemo, what a bitch ass name.

[ShoeSh1ne]

Seriously.

Let me see you throw out shit like Coheed does.

Oh wait, you can't.

Bleedingemo, what a bitch ass name.

You mean shit as in stuff right? Not shit as in shitty music.

[CIMA]

I liked the style of reviewing. That was pretty cool.

I however do like the album, so we differ there.

I'm honestly suprised you haven't got -ve scene points by now...

[hXc_pwnage]

You mean shit as in stuff right? Not shit as in shitty music.
Yes, I mean as in stuff. I like Coheed.

[yeknom]

I liked the style of reviewing. That was pretty cool.

I however do like the album, so we differ there.

I'm honestly suprised you haven't got -ve scene points by now...


-ve does not make any sense.

[xsavesthelinex]

I have to say that i have kind of grown out of liking FOB, but i totally disagree about what you guys said about the production....

when I first heard Neal Avron was going to be producing i was scared it was gonna be heavily over produced like NFG or the new Yellowcard, but I was pleasantly suprised with it...i think the production he did works really well for these guys, i have to say i did prefer the TTTYG sound better but this is a good sound for them, slightly more polished than what okeefe gave them.

[LostInTheCrowd]

I was unimpressed by the 7 song leak I heard of their cd so I'm probably not gonna bother with the rest of the cd. I do love Dance Dance though. Other than that the majority of what I heard was forgettable.

[Manbotisdead]

and whats good music? coheed and cambria?

you've got to be kidding me.


No I'm not "kidding you" but i don't listen to alot of bands posted about on here frequently. I listen to alot of indie and synth rock. I hope that qualifies under your banner of good music.

[CIMA]

-ve does not make any sense.

It means negative.

Unless you mean it makes so sense as to why he'd get negative scene points, then it's because people suck.

[btbam > you]

I have to say that i have kind of grown out of liking FOB, but i totally disagree about what you guys said about the production....

when I first heard Neal Avron was going to be producing i was scared it was gonna be heavily over produced like NFG or the new Yellowcard, but I was pleasantly suprised with it...i think the production he did works really well for these guys, i have to say i did prefer the TTTYG sound better but this is a good sound for them, slightly more polished than what okeefe gave them.



thank you, i agree about the production. i was scared it might be over-produced like nfg, but i really like how everything sounds together. the guitar tones sound incredible, and everything blends together really well overall.

[yeknom]

It means negative.

Unless you mean it makes so sense as to why he'd get negative scene points, then it's because people suck.

well, actually i was just being a dick, but now i feel bad; sorry. To clarify however, i meant that "-"
in itself means negative, so you were saying negativeve which doesn't make sense, so thats that.

[Darren McLeod]

EVERYONE WATCH OUT! Stating your opinion on Fall Out Boy's new album could be harmful to your health, and/or scene points, especially if you say it's above average, but not quite up to par with their previous release! However, to boost those scene points, just say how much you like the band in someone's signature! Here is an example:

Comments on this Post:
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[Albi549]

Alright , Ryan and Scott made some good points which i can see. Its good for people to have their opinon about this. But , personally from the songs that i have heard i cant wait to get my cd in the mail, but thats just me, . i give props to them how they did the review which was pretty awesome.

[FourStarters]

Haha, I totally had 10,000 scene points and now I don't.

The new TSL album > the new FOB album

[SonEric84]

Haha, here come six pages of people hating on Scott and Ryan.



haha I know I am about 80 replies late, but I was going to say "oh man these guys are toast."

[Darren McLeod]

Haha, I totally had 10,000 scene points and now I don't.

The new TSL album > the new FOB album
I tried to help you out. Unfortunately, I don't have enough scene points to put you into the positives. Hopefully Scott and Ryan help you out with their large, lucious amounts of Scene Points.

[AtticusFinch317]

He[Patrick] IS the band, his voice is what puts FOB apart from the rest of trashy Pop Punk bands out there.
Am I the only one who found that kind of humorous? Many interviews that come out talk about Pete the whole time? There's probably a good percentage of people that listen to them that only know who Pete is. You go to the Fueled By Ramen tour, and all you see are fat little 14 year old girls that are sporting a Good Charlotte or Hawthorn Heights shirt screaming for Pete.
Its been said before but... What is with that poem at the end of track 12? Seriously? I laughed at it when I heard it.

[Drew Beringer]

Ryan and Scott- great review, although I disagree with you about the album. I personally like it. And it's not like Ryan and Scott are saying "you suck if you listen to the new FOB", it's not a personal attack on FOB fans, they just simply stated that they just don't like it, so people, just chill out. :animateds

[AmIWrong]

Why do these music elitests , who never like pop punk, do a pop punk album review? It's just gonna be the typical bitching about lyrics and talent. The talent in pop punk is making catchy music, not instrumental talent. Everyone's lyrics can be stupid and immature to others why does pop punk always get this label.

[tannerbnd]

and whats good music? coheed and cambria?

you've got to be kidding me.


talking about overrated bands......coheed is the most overrated band to walk the face of the earth

[FourStarters]

I tried to help you out. Unfortunately, I don't have enough scene points to put you into the positives. Hopefully Scott and Ryan help you out with their large, lucious amounts of Scene Points.
That post sounded vaguely gay. ;)

[yayitsdale]

I honestly thought that it was an "eh" record at best. Even the single wasn't catchy.

[btbam > you]

talking about overrated bands......coheed is the most overrated band to walk the face of the earth

hahaha you are stupid. that's all there is to it. they are one of the most talented, original bands out there right now. i don't know how anyone can think any differently.

[hXc_pwnage]

Haha, I totally had 10,000 scene points and now I don't.

The new TSL album > the new FOB album
Oh yeah. This is the truest thing I've read so far.

[CIMA]

The screaming on the album needs to go, seriously. It's terrible. I thought they would have gotten rid of it after TTTYG.

I like 'A Little less sixteen candles, a little more touch me'. That is awesome.

Volcano, I guess is still the best album of 2005

[FourStarters]

Are we bashing on Coheed now?

This is like a scene point suicide fest.

[Darren McLeod]

That post sounded vaguely gay. ;)
Hey, come on man. I just gave you those scene points... don't make me spread around scene points to other people for a few days and then take 'em away! I'll do it. I swear I'm crazy like that.

[xcryurheartoutx]

talking about overrated bands......coheed is the most overrated band to walk the face of the earth

so true man. scene points for that.

[hXc_pwnage]

Why do these music elitests , who never like pop punk, do a pop punk album review? It's just gonna be the typical bitching about lyrics and talent. The talent in pop punk is making catchy music, not instrumental talent. Everyone's lyrics can be stupid and immature to others why does pop punk always get this label.
Hey, thanks for the negative points.

[dekdog11]

I have to disagree about "Nobody Puts Baby In the Corner"...I think the acoustic is much better. And guys this cd as a 3.9 is a little low...come on now, but I respect your review.

[FourStarters]

Hey, come on man. I just gave you those scene points... don't make me spread around scene points to other people for a few days and then take 'em away! I'll do it. I swear I'm crazy like that.
Don't do it man! It's not worth it!

All I read was "big" and "luscious"...

God, I totally just set myself up.

[AtticusFinch317]

Hey, thanks for the negative points.
All the die hards are going through and docking the people who can actually see past the hype. I hope that makes them believe that the CD is that much better.

[Darren McLeod]

Don't do it man! It's not worth it!

All I read was "big" and "luscious"...

God, I totally just set myself up.
Hahaha... I'm not even going to touch that one.

Shit.

[hXc_pwnage]

All the die hards are going through and docking the people who can actually see past the hype. I hope that makes them believe that the CD is that much better.
Seriously. I mean, I fucking love Fall Out Boy. One of my favorite bands.

But this cd isn't what they're capable of. They can do so much better.

[ChiodosBros]

Yeah, you've matured tons since you were 19. I mean, who likes pop-punk after they turn 20? I know as soon I turned 20, I started listening to Slayer and have'nt looked back. Losers.

[Scott Weber]

Why do these music elitests , who never like pop punk, do a pop punk album review? It's just gonna be the typical bitching about lyrics and talent. The talent in pop punk is making catchy music, not instrumental talent. Everyone's lyrics can be stupid and immature to others why does pop punk always get this label.

I'm pretty damn far from what I'd call a music elitist. I mean, we all know Ryan is ;)
but I'm not. i love new acceptance, i think the new starting line is pretty good, etc. Just because we don't like Fall Out Boy doesn't mean we're elitists...Thank you for posting, I was getting bored because there were no idiots replying to this thread yet.

Yeah, you've matured tons since you were 19. I mean, who likes pop-punk after they turn 20? I know as soon I turned 20, I started listening to Slayer and have'nt looked back. Losers.
haha, you moron. I still like some pop-punk. Not this.

thank god the retards have come out, like I said, I was getting bored.

[AtticusFinch317]

Seriously. I mean, I fucking love Fall Out Boy. One of my favorite bands.

But this cd isn't what they're capable of. They can do so much better.
I agree, I'm a fan too. Who knows, I might still even go out and buy the album. I wish the album was better than this.
I still wouldn't hesitate to go see them live. They do put on a good show.

[yayitsdale]

Yeah, you've matured tons since you were 19. I mean, who likes pop-punk after they turn 20? I know as soon I turned 20, I started listening to Slayer and have'nt looked back. Losers.

hahahah true dat

[The Gray Ghost]

Jay-Z is going to be so angry now.

[FourStarters]

Seriously. I mean, I fucking love Fall Out Boy. One of my favorite bands.

But this cd isn't what they're capable of. They can do so much better.
I think you've just said what a lot of us are thinking that are ripping on this CD.

It seems like they tried too hard to put something out while their hype was there. From the opening song, it lacks the "punch" that "Tell That Mick..." had. The lyrics are completely throwaway and honestly, if you cut them up, you'd make a whole new FOB album. The boys are all hardcore veterans and are capable of so much more than garbage riffs and recycled lyrics. The EP showed promise of what was to come, and this album just...MEH.

If you're hooked on Patrick's voice, listen to Cartel.

[Throwback]

I don't think you have to look any farther than the single for that, although I feel it's muddy in all of the songs.

I thoroughly agree. When I got the seven song promo, I was like what the hell? Sugar still sounds muddied. The opening guitar riff especially.

[AmIWrong]

Hey, thanks for the negative points.

I didn't give you negative points.

[Throwback]

This is like Where You Want to Be, part 2. Only 'Cork Tree' isn't the apocalypse that was WYWTB.

[Ryan Mills]

Yeah, you've matured tons since you were 19. I mean, who likes pop-punk after they turn 20? I know as soon I turned 20, I started listening to Slayer and have'nt looked back. Losers.

This had me laughing quite hard. Why even bother...

[AmIWrong]

I'm pretty damn far from what I'd call a music elitist. I mean, we all know Ryan is ;)
but I'm not. i love new acceptance, i think the new starting line is pretty good, etc. Just because we don't like Fall Out Boy doesn't mean we're elitists...Thank you for posting, I was getting bored because there were no idiots replying to this thread yet.


haha, you moron. I still like some pop-punk. Not this.

thank god the retards have come out, like I said, I was getting bored.

You are the dick. You don't even back yourself up you just call other peoople names. Acceptance isn't even pop punk. And of course you aren't gonna call yourself an elitest.

[Scott Weber]

This had me laughing quite hard. Why even bother...
hahaha, it's too stupid to even respond to, he took something I said and blew it completely out of proportion...if you like the exact same kind of music you did 2 years ago, then it's time to move on. i bet that guy still likes rap-metal then, right?

[Ryan Mills]

You are the dick. You don't even back yourself up you just call other peoople names. Acceptance isn't even pop punk. And of course you aren't gonna call yourself an elitest.

How is Scott and elitist? And of course Acceptance is pop-punk. Scott listens to a ton of diverse music, and likes all types of music, how is he so elitist? He doesn't tell people they suck for liking something, does he? Don't be a moron.

[AmIWrong]

hahaha, it's too stupid to even respond to, he took something I said and blew it completely out of proportion...if you like the exact same kind of music you did 2 years ago, then it's time to move on. i bet that guy still likes rap-metal then, right?

haha you can't like the same kind of music for more than two years? When did they make this time limit? You like Gatsby's American Dream for more than two years. Do you need to move on?

[Scott Weber]

You are the dick. You don't even back yourself up you just call other peoople names. Acceptance isn't even pop punk. And of course you aren't gonna call yourself an elitest.
hahahahahaha oh shit, it gets even better. more bitter fans lashing out at me for not liking an album they hail as the second coming of christ. I'm sorry, acceptance is what then? Pop-rock? I thought that was even more frowned upon than pop-punk, so I guess I'm even more lame then.

Why do I have to back myself up? It's the truth, I was obsessed with pop-punk and didn't even listen to hardcore 2 years ago, and now I listen to mostly progressive rock and hardcore, and less and less pop-punk every day. I don't have to justify the truth, my tastes evolved, and someday yours will too.

[AmIWrong]

How is Scott and elitist? And of course Acceptance is pop-punk. Scott listens to a ton of diverse music, and likes all types of music, how is he so elitist? He doesn't tell people they suck for liking something, does he? Don't be a moron.

I'm not being a moron there you go with the names again. Feel better. By them bashing pop punk through it's talent and lyrics and saying it is immature. That is being elitest. Or what would you call it? and if you say it's having good taste right there is saying your opinion has more worht than someone elses which is also elitest.

[derricklc22]

I love the new Fall Out Boy, but I dont have a problem with Ryan and Scott not liking it. Ryan didnt like Mae either and its my fav. album of the yr.

I think this album is almost as good as TTYG. Its catchy, Patrick's voice is awesome, and to my ears it sounds great.

[Scott Weber]

haha you can't like the same kind of music for more than two years? When did they make this time limit? You like Gatsby's American Dream for more than two years. Do you need to move on?
please miss the point more. I've liked MxPx for 10 years. It's not specific to every single band, it's a trend. Everybody has stuff they'll always like. How thick-headed are you? You're starting an argument that you cannot possibly win, so just leave.

[hXc_pwnage]

I didn't give you negative points.
I have the power to see who gives me points.

Moron.

[AmIWrong]

hahahahahaha oh shit, it gets even better. more bitter fans lashing out at me for not liking an album they hail as the second coming of christ. I'm sorry, acceptance is what then? Pop-rock? I thought that was even more frowned upon than pop-punk, so I guess I'm even more lame then.

Why do I have to back myself up? It's the truth, I was obsessed with pop-punk and didn't even listen to hardcore 2 years ago, and now I listen to mostly progressive rock and hardcore, and less and less pop-punk every day. I don't have to justify the truth, my tastes evolved, and someday yours will too.

I'm not a bitter fan. I don't like FOB that much. I hate people who think they are better than others. Right there y ou prove you are an elitest saying you moved onto prog rock and hardcore. That is you saying your taste is better and "evolved." Who is to say that that is evolving and better?

I have the power to see who gives me points.

Moron.

Well than it was an accident asshole, get a life scene points are fucking gay.

[ChiodosBros]

Why do these music elitests , who never like pop punk, do a pop punk album review? It's just gonna be the typical bitching about lyrics and talent. The talent in pop punk is making catchy music, not instrumental talent. Everyone's lyrics can be stupid and immature to others why does pop punk always get this label.

Because they're attention starved. That's why they always review an album they know they don't really like. They know their would be no conflict if they said they liked the album and had no complaints. But, You're right. I believe they do review albums knowing in advance that they're gonna bash it.

[Ryan Mills]

haha you can't like the same kind of music for more than two years? When did they make this time limit? You like Gatsby's American Dream for more than two years. Do you need to move on?

Dude, just because we gave an album you love a bad review you don't need to get all fussy, Jesus. Like what you like and get over it, come on.

[hXc_pwnage]

I'm not being a moron there you go with the names again. Feel better. By them bashing pop punk through it's talent and lyrics and saying it is immature. That is being elitest. Or what would you call it? and if you say it's having good taste right there is saying your opinion has more worht than someone elses which is also elitest.
You're stupid.

Really fucking stupid.

[oxfordqueef]

talking about overrated bands......coheed is the most overrated band to walk the face of the earth

slow down there baby. you cannot doubt the musicianship of that group. watch their DVD. claudio's voice is cool as hell. and their lyrics are so interesting.

i haven't heard the album yet, but the concensus seems to be:
tell all your friends is to take this to your grave (amazing) as
where you want to be is to from under the cork tree (sub-par)

[EveryNewDay]

why do people always miss the fact that a review is somebody's opinion and they are entitled to it whether you like it or not. chill out guys.

[hXc_pwnage]

Well than it was an accident asshole, get a life scene points are fucking gay.
Hahahahah, it was a joke.

And you care enough to give me negative ones.

[AmIWrong]

Dude, just because we gave an album you love a bad review you don't need to get all fussy, Jesus. Like what you like and get over it, come on.

I don't love the fucking album. You people just think your better than everyone else and that your opinion matters while others don't.

[Ryan Mills]

I'm not being a moron there you go with the names again. Feel better. By them bashing pop punk through it's talent and lyrics and saying it is immature. That is being elitest. Or what would you call it? and if you say it's having good taste right there is saying your opinion has more worht than someone elses which is also elitest.

Did you miss the part of the review about the lyrics? We didn't bash them, we said they were mediocre for pop-punk and therefore nothing exciting.

[Scott Weber]

Right there y ou prove you are an elitest saying you moved onto prog rock and hardcore. That is you saying your taste is better and "evolved." Who is to say that that is evolving and better?
LOL, that didn't prove anything! It's FACT! People were asking about how I didn't like the same type of music that I did 2 years ago, so that's my response? Jesus Christ, lol.

Because they're attention starved. That's why they always review an album they know they don't really like. They know their would be no conflict if they said they liked the album and had no complaints. But, You're right. I believe they do review albums knowing in advance that they're gonna bash it.

This is actually only the 3rd album I've reviewed all year with a score under 4, I believe. Hardly "always." I review albums I feel strongly about, and normally that means good albums.

[AmIWrong]

please miss the point more. I've liked MxPx for 10 years. It's not specific to every single band, it's a trend. Everybody has stuff they'll always like. How thick-headed are you? You're starting an argument that you cannot possibly win, so just leave.

Miss the point more? why don't you not be a hypocrite. You said he liked the same music he did two years ago he needs to move on and you have liked the same for ten years.

[hXc_pwnage]

Did you miss the part of the review about the lyrics? We didn't bash them, we said they were mediocre for pop-punk and therefore nothing exciting.
In my opinion, the lyrics got worse.

I think it's hard for someone to look at Take This To Your Grave and say that they aren't creative. No, they aren't amazing. But they're creative, and good for pop punk. Now it seems forced.

This is really funny.

[AmIWrong]

LOL, that didn't prove anything! It's FACT! People were asking about how I didn't like the same type of music that I did 2 years ago, so that's my response? Jesus Christ, lol.



This is actually only the 3rd album I've reviewed all year with a score under 4, I believe. Hardly "always." I review albums I feel strongly about, and normally that means good albums.

It does prove something. You are so ignorant. You think your taste is better.

[Amplifried]

Damn, I personally agree with this review. Finally, two people are able to agree how overrated this band is and that they are not as talented as everyone thinks they are. Sure, the first album was good but this one is not as good, but everyone is afraid to insult FOB because that would not be cool. Fuck, get off the damn bandwagon biatches and be honest with yourself, the new FOB album just doesn't live up to the hype. No one had a problem bashing the second TBS album. :animateds

I would not consider myself Fall Out Boy's biggest fan. My enjoyment of their first album was probably mild at best. Sure, there was some really good stuff on there lyrically, but I wasn't blown away by them musically. This is coming from someone near Chicago where Fall Out Boy hails from. However, when I saw Fall Out Boy perform not too long ago in St. Louis, it was apparent to me that this band has an exponential amount of energy that can just not be contained within the confines of a studio album.

That being said, I've recently become a bigger fan of Fall Out Boy and what they are able to do. Having heard a good deal of the new album, I feel that I am justified in saying that Patrick has one of the best voices of any pop singer out there. I think that's very evident on this new CD and especially on that "Cupid's Chokehold" of the new Gym Class Heroes album. He's just got a damn good voice. I feel that the latest Fall Out Boy effort is marginally better than their last, but still needs to be heard live in order to be appreciated. I also believe that anyone who doesn't think "7 Minutes in Heaven (Atavan Halen)" is a "fun" song is just fucking lying.

[hXc_pwnage]

It does prove something. You are so ignorant. You think your taste is better.
And you don't think you like better music than other kids?

God, you're fucking stupid.

[Scott Weber]

Miss the point more? why don't you not be a hypocrite. You said he liked the same music he did two years ago he needs to move on and you have liked the same for ten years.
haha yes TJ it is really funny. Look at this 19 year old kid trying to tell me that he's going to love My Chemical Romance in over 2 years. Or look at him taking everything I say out of context in order to fuel an argument that simply doesn't exist.

[Ryan Mills]

I don't love the fucking album. You people just think your better than everyone else and that your opinion matters while others don't.

Really? Is that a direct quote of mine. Please show me where I said that anywhere, anytime. As for progression in music, you won't find adults listening to pop-punk, take a guess as to why. There are progressions in music, stages through which people go, it's a fact of life. I don't think all pop-punk sucks, nor have I ever said that; but I think this is a fairly boring album and example of pop-punk. But don't try to deny there are trends in musical growth as people age, because there are, it's just the way it is. That doesn't mean jazz is inherently better than pop-punk, or what have you, but don't deny it exists.

[PaperclipAnemia]

I think everyone is missing the point here. Opinions are facts. They can't be disagreed with.

[AmIWrong]

And you don't think you like better music than other kids?

God, you're fucking stupid.

No i don't. I think everyone likes what they like. Do i ever say a band sucks? Do i say hardcore sucks? I don't like hardcore, but I don't disrespect it's music and peoples ways of lives do I? No because I'm not an ignorant asshole.

[hXc_pwnage]

haha yes TJ it is really funny. Look at this 19 year old kid trying to tell me that he's going to love My Chemical Romance in over 2 years. Or look at him taking everything I say out of context in order to fuel an argument that simply doesn't exist.
Yeah. I never stopped liking bands I listened to in 4th grade.

[yayitsdale]

In my opinion, the lyrics got worse.

I think it's hard for someone to look at Take This To Your Grave and say that they aren't creative. No, they aren't amazing. But they're creative, and good for pop punk. Now it seems forced.

This is really funny.

I couldn't have said it better myself, the record as a whole seemed forced.

[hXc_pwnage]

No i don't. I think everyone likes what they like. Do i ever say a band sucks? Do i say hardcore sucks? I don't like hardcore, but I don't disrespect it's music and peoples ways of lives do I? No because I'm not an ignorant asshole.
Ok.

Now show me where Scott said that your music sucks.

[AmIWrong]

haha yes TJ it is really funny. Look at this 19 year old kid trying to tell me that he's going to love My Chemical Romance in over 2 years. Or look at him taking everything I say out of context in order to fuel an argument that simply doesn't exist.

There you go again. You are older so you are better. And I'm not taking anything out of context.

[ChiodosBros]

haha yes TJ it is really funny. Look at this 19 year old kid trying to tell me that he's going to love My Chemical Romance in over 2 years. Or look at him taking everything I say out of context in order to fuel an argument that simply doesn't exist.
I've loved Blink, MxPx, Saves the Day, Home Grown...ect. for years and years and still do to this day. But, Please tell me which is ok for us to still like being that we've matured from those days.

[AmIWrong]

Really? Is that a direct quote of mine. Please show me where I said that anywhere, anytime. As for progression in music, you won't find adults listening to pop-punk, take a guess as to why. There are progressions in music, stages through which people go, it's a fact of life. I don't think all pop-punk sucks, nor have I ever said that; but I think this is a fairly boring album and example of pop-punk. But don't try to deny there are trends in musical growth as people age, because there are, it's just the way it is. That doesn't mean jazz is inherently better than pop-punk, or what have you, but don't deny it exists.

No one listens to progressive rock or hardcore either as an adult.

Ok.

Now show me where Scott said that your music sucks.

When they bitch about pop punk lyrics and talent.

[kinevil kinevil]

yawn...

[Ryan Mills]

There you go again. You are older so you are better. And I'm not taking anything out of context.

Look, dude, just stop for a minute, breathe, think about everything you said. Then calm down and realize you're looking immature. No one said they hate your music because I don't evne know what music you like. Just chill. It's our jobs to review albums. I bet lots of kids are thinking of buying this, I don't think they should, hence the review.

[PaperclipAnemia]

No i don't. I think everyone likes what they like. Do i ever say a band sucks? Do i say hardcore sucks? I don't like hardcore, but I don't disrespect it's music and peoples ways of lives do I? No because I'm not an ignorant asshole.

but they didn't disrespect the music in their review. They didn't like it. If I don't like a miles davis album, that doesn't mean i disrespect it. Its just not my thing. Same goes for this review. they didn't enjoy the album. Theya ren't saying people are dumbasses or aren't enlightened for lsitening to fall out boy. Stop being so insecure about your taste in music. everyone doesn't have to agree with it.

[EveryNewDay]

There you go again. You are older so you are better. And I'm not taking anything out of context.

dear lord. just drop it man.

[hXc_pwnage]

I've loved Blink, MxPx, Saves the Day, Home Grown...ect. for years and years and still do to this day. But, Please tell me which is ok for us to like being that we've matured.
So you're saying you still like the same amount you did 3 years ago?

I highly doubt that. And if you do, then you definitely haven't found any new music in the past 3 years.

[Scott Weber]

There you go again. You are older so you are better. And I'm not taking anything out of context.
then where are you pulling "you are older so you are better" from? I didn't ever say that, so great example of saying something out of context...or just not true. You're putting words in my mouth, man.

Nice avatar, btw.

[hXc_pwnage]

No one listens to progressive rock or hardcore either as an adult.



When they bitch about pop punk lyrics and talent.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHA.

This is the best thing I have ever read.

[AmIWrong]

Look, dude, just stop for a minute, breathe, think about everything you said. Then calm down and realize you're looking immature. No one said they hate your music because I don't evne know what music you like. Just chill. It's our jobs to review albums. I bet lots of kids are thinking of buying this, I don't think they should, hence the review.

Why don't you realize that this has nothing to do with the album. It has everything to do with how you think of the genre not the specific album. How am I looking immature? By disagreeing with you?

[irthesteve]

i love his rendition of wonderwall

that is probably the all time worst cover song ever made...

[ChiodosBros]

So you're saying you still like the same amount you did 3 years ago?

I highly doubt that. And if you do, then you definitely haven't found any new music in the past 3 years.

No, I've found a hell of alot of other bands I'm into now. I'm just asking if it's still scene to like my old bands since I'm now over 20.

[s.deel.besonym]

Scott, I think you're wrong in saying that tastes evolve into whatever you're listening to now. I don't think there's a "timeline" with musical genres placed on it and maturity levels next to them. I think it's unfair for you to tell these kids they're going to grow into liking hardcore and progrock or grow out of liking pop punk. I like pop punk, hardcore, a bunch of metal, rap, pop, everything, and I don't see myself "maturing" as I grow into my twenties. This thread has deteriorated thoroughly, and it makes me sad.

[PaperclipAnemia]

Why don't you realize that this has nothing to do with the album. It has everything to do with how you think of the genre not the specific album. How am I looking immature? By disagreeing with you?

hey, dumbass. look in the reviews archives at his review of cartel. Then come back and tell me he thinks pop-punk is gay.

second...you look immature by making idiotic comments.

[AmIWrong]

then where are you pulling "you are older so you are better" from? I didn't ever say that, so great example of saying something out of context...or just not true. You're putting words in my mouth, man.

Nice avatar, btw.

When you said look at this 19 year old.... meaning you think you are better. And yea your avatar is so amazing.

[yayitsdale]

but they didn't disrespect the music in their review. They didn't like it. If I don't like a miles davis album, that doesn't mean i disrespect it. Its just not my thing. Same goes for this review. they didn't enjoy the album. They aren't saying people are dumbasses or aren't enlightened for listening to fall out boy. Stop being so insecure about your taste in music. everyone doesn't have to agree with it.

Very true and well put. I think that everyone (including myself) needs to be more open to new things. Life is too short to go around hating.

[Ryan Mills]

Why don't you realize that this has nothing to do with the album. It has everything to do with how you think of the genre not the specific album. How am I looking immature? By disagreeing with you?

Because you're whining and throwing a fit instead of coherently arguing. I like some pop-punk believe it or not. The Cartel review...I enjoyed that. Sure I used to like it more, but I still enjoy it sometimes. I didn't hate on a genre, why are you so insecure you feel the need to assume things incorrectly?

[Scott Weber]

Why don't you realize that this has nothing to do with the album. It has everything to do with how you think of the genre not the specific album. How am I looking immature? By disagreeing with you?
ig·no·rance
n.

def. n : 1. the lack of knowledge or education. 2. AmIWrong.

[AmIWrong]

hey, dumbass. look in the reviews archives at his review of cartel. Then come back and tell me he thinks pop-punk is gay.

second...you look immature by making idiotic comments.

Show me an idiotic comment that I have made.

[hXc_pwnage]

No, I've found a hell of alot of other bands I'm into now. I'm just asking if it's still scene to like my old bands since I'm now over 20.
Scott never said anything about not liking the bands. He said his tastes have matured. He likes different bands more now. Like he said, after ten years, he still likes MxPx. But does he like them as much now as he did when he was 13? Hell no.

[EveryNewDay]

why don't we talk about something of importance.... like the fact that FAMILY GUY comes back tomorrow!!!

[hXc_pwnage]

Scott, I think you're wrong in saying that tastes evolve into whatever you're listening to now. I don't think there's a "timeline" with musical genres placed on it and maturity levels next to them. I think it's unfair for you to tell these kids they're going to grow into liking hardcore and progrock or grow out of liking pop punk. I like pop punk, hardcore, a bunch of metal, rap, pop, everything, and I don't see myself "maturing" as I grow into my twenties. This thread has deteriorated thoroughly, and it makes me sad.
He's saying they won't like the same music now as they did back then. He never said what kind of music they'll like.

This is why I usually stay away from the news.

[AmIWrong]

Because you're whining and throwing a fit instead of coherently arguing. I like some pop-punk believe it or not. The Cartel review...I enjoyed that. Sure I used to like it more, but I still enjoy it sometimes. I didn't hate on a genre, why are you so insecure you feel the need to assume things incorrectly?

I'm not insecure. I'm not the one that has tons of interent friends and thinks I'm cool because I have a fake job at absolutepunk.net. Good for you I hope that takes you somewhere.

[hXc_pwnage]

ig·no·rance
n.

def. n : 1. the lack of knowledge or education. 2. AmIWrong.
Hehehehehe.

[AmIWrong]

ig·no·rance
n.

def. n : 1. the lack of knowledge or education. 2. AmIWrong.

That's real funny. You can't think of anything to say so you call me ignorant.

[MidniteVulture]

That doesn't mean jazz is inherently better than pop-punkWell... it is. ;)

When does this album come out?

[hXc_pwnage]

I'm not insecure. I'm not the one that has tons of interent friends and thinks I'm cool because I have a fake job at absolutepunk.net. Good for you I hope that takes you somewhere.
You post at this place.

So you're no better than what you think of him.

God, people are fucking idiots.

[AmIWrong]

Hehehehehe.

Hey why don't you get a life and go find some dude's dick to suck than some internet dude's dick to suck.

[hXc_pwnage]

That's real funny. You can't think of anything to say so you call me ignorant.
If the skirt fits, wear it.

Hey why don't you get a life and go find some dude's dick to suck than some internet dude's dick to suck.
Because atleast this way I can not get cum on my clothes.

[AmIWrong]

You post at this place.

So you're no better than what you think of him.

God, people are fucking idiots.

Yeah but it's not my fucking job. And I don't pride myself in this.

[PaperclipAnemia]

I'm not insecure. I'm not the one that has tons of interent friends and thinks I'm cool because I have a fake job at absolutepunk.net. Good for you I hope that takes you somewhere.
posts #136 and #146.

from what i understand...you want to feel secure in your pleasure you get from listening to fall out boy. I'llt ell you what. I like them too. I enjoy 6 or 7 tracks on the album.. i think they're fantastic. There are some that aren't so good, but hey...what band is perfect? Its seems like you are arguing just for the sake of arguing because you wanted this cd to get a better review. but since you can't attack the opinions of people, you feel like you should attack why they carry those opinions. Still a bad form of argument.

[irthesteve]

due to ryans review of the new mae album, it makes me have very high hopes for the new fall out boy because he was far off on the mae album and probably on this one too

[Ryan Mills]

I'm not insecure. I'm not the one that has tons of interent friends and thinks I'm cool because I have a fake job at absolutepunk.net. Good for you I hope that takes you somewhere.

Aw, man, I just don't know...there's so much ammo you give out but it's not worth it. I have talked to barely anyone from this site outside of a few and the staffers, but good try. I do this because I love music and like exposing people to music, no other reason. I, like most everyone else, get a real job to make money to pay for college you know, because I want to do something with my life. But you know what, it's not worth my time to argue with you because you just want to argue because your upset at something that doesn't exist.

[yayitsdale]

wow it's getting personal

[AmIWrong]

posts #136 and #146.

from what i understand...you want to feel secure in your pleasure you get from listening to fall out boy. I'llt ell you what. I like them too. I enjoy 6 or 7 tracks on the album.. i think they're fantastic. There are some that aren't so good, but hey...what band is perfect? Its seems like you are arguing just for the sake of arguing because you wanted this cd to get a better review. but since you can't attack the opinions of people, you feel like you should attack why they carry those opinions. Still a bad form of argument.

You don't even know what you're talking about. I even said I am not even a huge fan of this band.

[hXc_pwnage]

I'm not insecure. I'm not the one that has tons of interent friends and thinks I'm cool because I have a fake job at absolutepunk.net. Good for you I hope that takes you somewhere.
Oh yeah, I forgot. These guys get deals at REAL record labels. You know what that means? REAL jobs.

Anyone here like Tooth and Nail? You might want to start sucking Scott's dick...

[PaperclipAnemia]

You don't even know what you're talking about. I even said I am not even a huge fan of this band.
then what the hell is the big deal?

If they like mature music, then let them. They aren't more enlightened than me, you, or my grandma.

[AmIWrong]

Aw, man, I just don't know...there's so much ammo you give out but it's not worth it. I have talked to barely anyone from this site outside of a few and the staffers, but good try. I do this because I love music and like exposing people to music, no other reason. I, like most everyone else, get a real job to make money to pay for college you know, because I want to do something with my life. But you know what, it's not worth my time to argue with you because you just want to argue because your upset at something that doesn't exist.

Yea exactly my point. YOu don't even have real thing with these people. You are no better than nerds who sit online and make online friends. And I am also in college.

[Scott Weber]

Oh yeah, I forgot. These guys get deals at REAL record labels. You know what that means? REAL jobs.

Anyone here like Tooth and Nail? You might want to start sucking Scott's dick...
hahaha, this is true. :)

[hXc_pwnage]

Yeah but it's not my fucking job. And I don't pride myself in this.
That just means you fucking suck.

[AmIWrong]

then what the hell is the big deal?

If they like mature music, then let them. They aren't more enlightened than me, you, or my grandma.

That's exactly my point right there. You saying other shit is more mature and obviously labeling me immature.

[Scott Weber]

Yea exactly my point. YOu don't even have real thing with these people. You are no better than nerds who sit online and make online friends. And I am also in college.
i guess that fact just owned his entire argument.

[hXc_pwnage]

Yea exactly my point. YOu don't even have real thing with these people. You are no better than nerds who sit online and make online friends. And I am also in college.
So that means you're a college kid sitting here arguing on the internet.

It's kind of crazy how you are what you criticize, eh?

[PaperclipAnemia]

ok...what are we arguing about again? I forgot.

[EveryNewDay]

your mom goes to college.... end this for the love of humanity

[oh.um.gee]

wouldn't the average be 3.8?

[AmIWrong]

Oh yeah, I forgot. These guys get deals at REAL record labels. You know what that means? REAL jobs.

Anyone here like Tooth and Nail? You might want to start sucking Scott's dick...

Like you do? WIll you teach me how?

[hXc_pwnage]

That's exactly my point right there. You saying other shit is more mature and obviously labeling me immature.
That's far from what you're saying.

[Ryan Mills]

Yea exactly my point. YOu don't even have real thing with these people. You are no better than nerds who sit online and make online friends. And I am also in college.

How does that make sense? I have no online friends. I talk to the staffers online and a few others from the site...no one else ever IMs me or whatever. And it's sad your in college. I can only imagine what your major is and what you hope to do...hopefully grow up sometime.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Wow reading this whole thing has been quite entertaining for me. Keep up the good work...lol. Oh and Scott, I am also glad the idiots finally came out to make this thread more interesting.

[hXc_pwnage]

Like you do? WIll you teach me how?
First, you open your mouth.

Then you just watch while he face fucks you.

Next I'll teach you how to recieve a skull fuck.

[AmIWrong]

So that means you're a college kid sitting here arguing on the internet.

It's kind of crazy how you are what you criticize, eh?

No. I don't have tons of friends and online connections. I know real people. Not someone hiding behind a name.

[Paul Tao]

Did someone say Scott? Sucking dick? What?

[s.deel.besonym]

wouldn't the average be 3.8?
lmao i love the tension-breaking. thank you.

[AmIWrong]

How does that make sense? I have no online friends. I talk to the staffers online and a few others from the site...no one else ever IMs me or whatever. And it's sad your in college. I can only imagine what your major is and what you hope to do...hopefully grow up sometime.

That's my point you talk to your "coworkers" online. Have you ever even met them. And I do have a real major, finance, what's yours?

[Paul Tao]

No. I don't have tons of friends and online connections. I know real people. Not someone hiding behind a name.
Yeah right. I bet you have no friends in real life and arguing online is the only way you can take out your social and sexual frustrations.

[hXc_pwnage]

No. I don't have tons of friends and online connections. I know real people. Not someone hiding behind a name.
So if I post on a internet board, I automatically have no life?

Hahahahaha, god. You are the stupid person I have ever come across. And I've met some retarded people.

[Scott Weber]

No. I don't have tons of friends and online connections. I know real people. Not someone hiding behind a name.
did this guy miss the point that he spent 2 pages talking about how AP'ers are online geeks who will never amount to anything, and then Hxc_Pwnage said that I now work at Tooth and Nail because of this job? Way to ignore stuff, haha

[AmIWrong]

Yeah right. I bet you have no friends in real life and arguing online is the only way you can take out your social and sexual frustrations.

Yeah this whole fifteen minutes of arguing takes out my sexual and social frustrations. Quit talking out of yoru ass.

[hXc_pwnage]

That's my point you talk to your "coworkers" online. Have you ever even met them. And I do have a real major, finance, what's yours?
What are you trying to become?

A secretary?

[Ryan Mills]

That's my point you talk to your "coworkers" online. Have you ever even met them. And I do have a real major, finance, what's yours?

Economics and Pre-med with a minor in psychology, and yeah I'm going to medical school, try again.

[AmIWrong]

did this guy miss the point that he spent 2 pages talking about how AP'ers are online geeks who will never amount to anything, and then Hxc_Pwnage said that I now work at Tooth and Nail because of this job? Way to ignore stuff, haha

That's pretty sad if their staff consists of people from this site.

[Scott Weber]

Yeah, I'm double majoring in Accounting and Marketing, so try again as well.

[hXc_pwnage]

Economics and Pre-med with a minor in psychology, and yeah I'm going to medical school, try again.
Hahahahahahahahaha.

I think you beat finance.

[Paul Tao]

Yeah this whole fifteen minutes of arguing takes out my sexual and social frustrations. Quit talking out of yoru ass.
I knew it.

Go get a life.

[yeknom]

Stop pulling your tallywhacker!!!

[AmIWrong]

What are you trying to become?

A secretary?

Yeah a secretary in finance.

[hXc_pwnage]

That's pretty sad if their staff consists of people from this site.
Why?

Because they actually try to become something?

[ActorInThisPlay]

did this guy miss the point that he spent 2 pages talking about how AP'ers are online geeks who will never amount to anything, and then Hxc_Pwnage said that I now work at Tooth and Nail because of this job? Way to ignore stuff, haha

nice I love Tooth and Nail records. Probably my favorite label at the moment. Props for you.

[AmIWrong]

I knew it.

Go get a life.

I have a life. I don't have an "online job" like you.

[hXc_pwnage]

Yeah a secretary in finance.
Figures.

[MrChainsaw389]

Hahahahaha, Scott and Ryan, I love you with all of my heart. You guys rock. Does anyone remember the first person who said people are going to hate this album because they pushed it so hard? I think his name was Mike...oh wait it was ME!

[hXc_pwnage]

I have a life. I don't have an "online job" like you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

The online jobs merely give them credibility to get jobs at REAL labels.

How stupid can this kid get?

[EveryNewDay]

Yeah this whole fifteen minutes of arguing takes out my sexual and social frustrations. Quit talking out of yoru ass.

and you're not talking out of you're ass? just take a minute and think about that. oh wait, you're already typing up your next dumbass comment about how ryan and the reviewers on here suck. get a life!

[ActorInThisPlay]

yeah well I'm an Architecture major which owns all other majors ever. Just playing but yeah, I think Scott won with that double major there AmIWrong.

[Scott Weber]

Hahahahaha, Scott and Ryan, I love you with all of my heart. You guys rock. Does anyone remember the first person who said people are going to hate this album because they pushed it so hard? I think his name was Mike...oh wait it was ME!
nothing but love. this is exactly what I needed today, I've barely been at home for a week straight because of work and school, I needed a day to just sit and watch people be stupid. :)

[AmIWrong]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

The online jobs merely give them credibility to get jobs at REAL labels.

How stupid can this kid get?

And if an "online job" where you don't even meet the people you "work with" gives you credibility there is something wrong with this world.

[oh.um.gee]

That's pretty sad if their staff consists of people from this site.

you need to switch "am" and "i" in your screen name.

it'd be much more appropriate.

kthx.

[AmIWrong]

yeah well I'm an Architecture major which owns all other majors ever. Just playing but yeah, I think Scott won with that double major there AmIWrong.

Yeah and what school does he go to?

[ActorInThisPlay]

And if an "online job" where you don't even meet the people you "work with" gives you credibility there is something wrong with this world.

did you not read, this "on-line job" got him a job at Tooth and Nail. Where do you work right now that could possibly be cooler then that?

[yayitsdale]

you need to switch "am" and "i" in your screen name.

it'd be much more appropriate.

kthx.

hahahahahhah, yes

[btbam > you]

You are the dick. You don't even back yourself up you just call other peoople names. Acceptance isn't even pop punk. And of course you aren't gonna call yourself an elitest.


please tell me what acceptance is if they arent pop-punk? i'd love to know.

[Scott Weber]

you need to switch "am" and "i" in your screen name.

it'd be much more appropriate.

kthx.
haha, that actually made me lol a little bit.

[Ryan Mills]

nothing but love. this is exactly what I needed today, I've barely been at home for a week straight because of work and school, I needed a day to just sit and watch people be stupid. :)

I'm supposed to be writing a paper, but it can wait for this.

[YourLatestVicti]

And if an "online job" where you don't even meet the people you "work with" gives you credibility there is something wrong with this world.
There are a lot of things wrong with the world but if making connections by working on a website like this is one of the main problems the world is better than I think.

[hXc_pwnage]

And if an "online job" where you don't even meet the people you "work with" gives you credibility there is something wrong with this world.
Hahahahahaahahahahahahaha.

What's that have to do with anything?

[The Dove Song]

I've tried to read this thread but I couldn't finish it.

What is so hard to understand that it's their opinion about the album? Who cares what they think? I don't come here looking for what Scott or Ryan feel about an album. Oh hell, if they don't like it I can't possibly like it.

And I think it was PaperclipAnemia who said opinions are facts? Uh, no they aren't. I think AmIWrong needs to stop arguing with TJ and the rest. You're not winning any argument. Nothing you've said has proved any point you were trying to make. I wasted my time reading your ridiculous comments. It's just a fucking review.

[ActorInThisPlay]

I'm supposed to be writing a paper, but it can wait for this.

yeah this is definitely too much fun.

[AmIWrong]

did you not read, this "on-line job" got him a job at Tooth and Nail. Where do you work right now that could possibly be cooler then that?

Yeah did you read where i said that is sad.

[hXc_pwnage]

Yeah did you read where i said that is sad.
Why is it sad?

"Because you never meet the people you work with."

What's so bad about that?

[YourLatestVicti]

Yeah did you read where i said that is sad.
How is that sad? Labels are always contacting this site, it's a good way to network.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Yeah did you read where i said that is sad.

Why is that sad? He has a job with something that he loves, MUSIC. I don't see how that can possibly be sad because I know that I would love to have a job like that. I still wanna know where you work buddy.

[goddamngourd]

OOH OOH guess what!! I go to college too! holy shit!

[CIMA]

This is funny a couple of pages ago, now it's retarded.

[AmIWrong]

Whatever, my main point is I get mad when people say that their music style is more mature than another. Just in sayining puts down so many people. A lot of people think hardcore is more mature than pop punk. You don't need to look down on people for liking pop punk. Sorry for arguing I realize I am an idiot most of the time.

[kinevil kinevil]

holy hell...i go upstairs for a few minutes to jerk off to thoughts of scott weber, and everything goes nuts.

[hopeforthebest]

i just listened to the full album and a majority of people say fob are the kings of pop punk right but i think after listening to both albums that

TSL > FOB

[AmIWrong]

I think we can all agree with the fact that it's good that we don't get caught up in the mainstream bullshit.

[Scott Weber]

Yeah and what school does he go to?
University of Washington.

[PaperclipAnemia]

uh-oh. The argument has shifted to logging on to the internet. This one is easy...because we all know that people who utilize the internet have no friends. Duh.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Whatever, my main point is I get mad when people say that their music style is more mature than another. Just in sayining puts down so many people. A lot of people think hardcore is more mature than pop punk. You don't need to look down on people for liking pop punk. Sorry for arguing I realize I am an idiot most of the time.

yeah I agree with that but I don't think that is what Scott and Ryan were saying in the review, just what their opinion is of the music. Like Scott said before, he does enjoy some pop-punk, just not this album.

[The Dove Song]

This thread sucks.

[Scott Weber]

Ok, that was a fun little detour, but lets get back to the issues - seriously, how do you guys feel about the new Fall Out Boy CD??!!?!?!!11

[PaperclipAnemia]

This thread sucks.
i know. you should read the one from yesterday about the new finch song. that one plunged into a discussion of chipotle.

[AmIWrong]

Ok, that was a fun little detour, but lets get back to the issues - seriously, how do you guys feel about the new Fall Out Boy CD??!!?!?!!11

It's okay. I like the first one a lot better.