The Epoxies Review

[Ryan Mills]

I've posted a review of The Epoxies (http://www.theepoxies.com) - Stop the Future right here (http://www.absolutepunk.net/reviews/showproduct.php?product=736).

[tigerandtheduke]

seriously dude, you should be writing for decoy or some site with readers who enjoy the diverse music that you bring to the table... love the review.

[In Dolorosa]

exposie's... better luck next year.

[Grybo]

i like it.

[screamoURI]

ryan mills - god bless you for bringing punk rock music from a punk rock label to this supposed punk rock site.

[Jason Tate]

seriously dude, you should be writing for decoy or some site with readers who enjoy the diverse music that you bring to the table... love the review.
u mean undermindedmusic.com?

[andyriggedrec]

tate why are you home, go get drunk or something

[alkalinexandy]

...This band sounds nothing like the Killers. Or the Bravery. They have more in common with Devo, Blondie, or that Network CD that Green Day put out last year...It's not an amazing album, but I think it's better than this review says it is.

It's also worth noting that they've been putting out music since 2001...Were any of the bands they've been compared to even bands back then?

[Tony Pascarella]

You write good reviews. 'Nuff said.

[tigerandtheduke]

u mean undermindedmusic.com?

hmm i see, because aaron works for underminded then his site is automatically undermindedmusic.com, thats very interesting since i've rarely seen an over-abundance of posts about the band... unlike Fall Out Boy, The Starting Line and MXPX on this site

[RedScare]

Wow, this review is awful. I've never seen anyone with such a sparse knowledge of music try and take on a review; this is dreadfully ahistorical. Yes, there has been a revival of "punk wave" with bands like the Start and VCR, but the Epoxies have been around far longer than any of them and the band's members have been doing other stuff in the scene for 10 years by my reckoning. Anyone who thinks the Epoxies have ANY resemblance to the Killers should be stripped of their keyboard. One band is the genuine artcicle (complete with the experience and punk rock urgency that make their music relevant) and the other is an introduction to indie-rock (a gateway for Victory nu-emo at best). The good news is that there is hope for this new generation of shaggy-haired, low-cut jeans, nu-emo wimps. You can still see some REAL punk rock music played live, and you can start with the Epoxies.

[Ryan Mills]

Wow, this review is awful. I've never seen anyone with such a sparse knowledge of music try and take on a review; this is dreadfully ahistorical. Yes, there has been a revival of "punk wave" with bands like the Start and VCR, but the Epoxies have been around far longer than any of them and the band's members have been doing other stuff in the scene for 10 years by my reckoning. Anyone who thinks the Epoxies have ANY resemblance to the Killers should be stripped of their keyboard. One band is the genuine artcicle (complete with the experience and punk rock urgency that make their music relevant) and the other is an introduction to indie-rock (a gateway for Victory nu-emo at best). The good news is that there is hope for this new generation of shaggy-haired, low-cut jeans, nu-emo wimps. You can still see some REAL punk rock music played live, and you can start with the Epoxies.

I love people like you. First of all, perhaps you missed the part where I said they don't really sound like The Killers? Regardless, I wouldn't be calling this album some awesome punk rock CD--because it just isn't. It's boring, that's what it is. And please, I really don't need idiots making assumptions about how much don't know about music and how few bands I know. I have well over 100 GB of music and thousands of albums from every genre you could think of, so trust me, I know all the bands you think your cool self only knows. But going back to the point, I used those two bands as comparison because they are relatively well known and salient examples for today, and thusly easy to relate. This band doesn't sound exactly like them, but they aren't so far off, so grow up and don't throw hissy fits when I don't like something you do.

[RedScare]

I'm not even arguing with you about taste, because as we both know, that's all relative. Fine if you don't like it, but you are just flat out wrong to even mention Killers and the fucking Bravery in an Epoxies review. And to go as far as to say "led by frontrunner The Killers" is proof positive that you are in uncharted waters. But hey, at least somebody reviewed it, and I'm glad you did, but you are really doing more harm than good by lumping them in with bands that have sprouted up in the last year in a *somewhat* similar genre. Like I said, the people in the band are veterans of the Portland scene and I believe Epoxies have been been a band for six years now. The obvious bands to liken them to would be Rezillos, DEVO, Adam and the Ants, and even former labelmates The Briefs. Maybe you should consider adding their stuff to that 100 gigs of yours? I guess I did make a personal attack, and that is a bit over the top, BUT, this site calls itself absolutePUNK, and I would expect a rudimentary knowledge of the genre. Sure this place is bought and paid for by nu-emo whelps like DTR and Tooth & Nail, but I still have hope for you kids.

I've NEVER heard anyone quantify their music collection in terms of how much space it takes up on their hard drive...sign of the times I guess.

[Ryan Mills]

I'm not even arguing with you about taste, because as we both know, that's all relative. Fine if you don't like it, but you are just flat out wrong to even mention Killers and the fucking Bravery in an Epoxies review. And to go as far as to say "led by frontrunner The Killers" is proof positive that you are in uncharted waters. But hey, at least somebody reviewed it, and I'm glad you did, but you are really doing more harm than good by lumping them in with bands that have sprouted up in the last year in a *somewhat* similar genre. Like I said, the people in the band are veterans of the Portland scene and I believe Epoxies have been been a band for six years now. The obvious bands to liken them to would be Rezillos, DEVO, Adam and the Ants, and even former labelmates The Briefs. Maybe you should consider adding their stuff to that 100 gigs of yours? I guess I did make a personal attack, and that is a bit over the top, BUT, this site calls itself absolutePUNK, and I would expect a rudimentary knowledge of the genre. Sure this place is bought and paid for by nu-emo whelps like DTR and Tooth & Nail, but I still have hope for you kids.

I've NEVER heard anyone quantify their music collection in terms of how much space it takes up on their hard drive...sign of the times I guess.

Are you even kidding dude? So now you go on to make it a point to say I know nothing about punk music? The Briefs don't sound anything like The Epoxies, and The Briefs are actually good, that's just a horrible comparison. I'm not even going to bother, because you're just making pointless assumptions about what I know or don't know about music without any clue. Just because they've been around for six years, they don't get a pass, so stop bringing up this fact.

[RedScare]

"Just because they've been around for six years, they don't get a pass, so stop bringing up this fact."

I bring up this "fact" because you were never aware of it. I wouldn't ever suggest a band get a pass because they've been around for a while, but it's important to note when you throw them in there with other musical carpetbaggers and claim they are trying to ape some shitty mainstream act, when in fact it's the other way around. Again, it's fine if we don't agree on the record because that's a matter of taste, but a good part of your review is false; so I commented on that and you have subsequently back-peddled.

The Briefs and Epoxies share a lot more than you seemingly know: used to be on the same label, from the same part of the country, toured together for months, etc. Yes, Briefs are more Punk than New Wave; and Epoxies are vice versa, but both bands fuse the two and both rely heavily on the same aesthetic. But you probably knew all that...

[Ryan Mills]

"Just because they've been around for six years, they don't get a pass, so stop bringing up this fact."

I bring up this "fact" because you were never aware of it. I wouldn't ever suggest a band get a pass because they've been around for a while, but it's important to note when you throw them in there with other musical carpetbaggers and claim they are trying to ape some shitty mainstream act, when in fact it's the other way around. Again, it's fine if we don't agree on the record because that's a matter of taste, but a good part of your review is false; so I commented on that and you have subsequently back-peddled.

The Briefs and Epoxies share a lot more than you seemingly know: used to be on the same label, from the same part of the country, toured together for months, etc. Yes, Briefs are more Punk than New Wave; and Epoxies are vice versa, but both bands fuse the two and both rely heavily on the same aesthetic. But you probably knew all that...

Haha, of course I know that; even if I didn't it's right on the press sheet, so I'd know it then. And I don't consider being on the same label sharing, at least in terms of stuff like this; it's more about the music. Dude, why don't you go cry somewhere else, you're obviously a fan of this band and this is a pointless argument. I've written how many reviews, like 75 for this site alone, where were you critiquing how much I know back then. Your whole argument is a moot point because all you're whining about is The Epoxies since you like them.

[alkalinexandy]

Haha, of course I know that; even if I didn't it's right on the press sheet, so I'd know it then. And I don't consider being on the same label sharing, at least in terms of stuff like this; it's more about the music. Dude, why don't you go cry somewhere else, you're obviously a fan of this band and this is a pointless argument. I've written how many reviews, like 75 for this site alone, where were you critiquing how much I know back then. Your whole argument is a moot point because all you're whining about is The Epoxies since you like them.

Personally, I'm a fan of this album. It's not amazing, but it's a solid listen. That being said...

I don't really get at all why you even mentioned the Killers or the Bravery in your review. I understand that you said they sound nothing like either band, but why mention them at all, then? Why not liken them to bands they DO sound like (even though you don't like the album)? I understand that you don't like the album, but maybe someone else out there might give it a chance if likened to bands they DO sound like.

It just seems like an irresponsible way to review an album.

[RedScare]

Haha, of course I know that; even if I didn't it's right on the press sheet, so I'd know it then. And I don't consider being on the same label sharing, at least in terms of stuff like this; it's more about the music. Dude, why don't you go cry somewhere else, you're obviously a fan of this band and this is a pointless argument. I've written how many reviews, like 75 for this site alone, where were you critiquing how much I know back then. Your whole argument is a moot point because all you're whining about is The Epoxies since you like them.

Ugh. Not only can you not write, but you can't fucking READ either! This is like the third time in our exchange that you have grossly misintepreted something, so I'm doing the online equivalent of throwing my hands up in the air. I even said in my last post that I am new to posting on this site, did you bother reading it? My point is, no I have not read the other 75 reviews you have written, and I'm not sure I have the stomach for it. You keep prattling on and on and on about how much you know about music, give it a goddam rest already! PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY: We both feel differently about the record (which is perfectly cool, different strokes...), but your review states things as fact that are WRONG. That's all, dude. And since you're such a Mark McGrath, you should've known that "Robot Man" is actually a Scorpions cover.