Crash (2004)

[underoathfob55]

wow!!!! that movie was freaking crazy and awesome. its the best movie i saw since garden state and is definitly in my top 10 of all time instantly.

[IAmCountryMusic]

the original crash starring james spader was way better.

it was rated nc-17

[underoathfob55]

how old is that movie(the original)?

[IAmCountryMusic]

i think it was made in 95'
but its a really good movie, its a little disturbing though.

[underoathfob55]

ill have to check that out

[IAmCountryMusic]

its about a guy who gets sexually arroused by car crashes, and he meets others who also do.
i recommend it if youre into independent films.

[WakingTheMisery]

its about a guy who gets sexually arroused by car crashes, and he meets others who also do.
i recommend it if youre into independent films.
its actually loosely based on me.

[Andy]

its about a guy who gets sexually arroused by car crashes, and he meets others who also do.
i recommend it if youre into independent films.
That film is so fucked up.

[FrancesTheMute]

i remember seeing this when i was like 11......

[AloneInTheDark]

Anyone see this movie yet, just got back and I thought it was really good. Deals with extreme racism, and I think the whole plot was really cool and well laid out. Thoughts?

[marrost]

Anyone see this movie yet, just got back and I thought it was really good. Deals with extreme racism, and I think the whole plot was really cool and well laid out. Thoughts?
I read some good reviews. I'll probably go see it.

[varock]

there was a thread about it earlier but i guess it got pushed too far back. i thought it was a great movie.

[AloneInTheDark]

there was a thread about it earlier but i guess it got pushed too far back. i thought it was a great movie.
Sorry about that, should have done a search. Yeah it was a really great movie.

[IAmCountryMusic]

i liked the other movie called crash starring james spader from about 10 years ago where he got sexually excited by car crashes. kind of a disturbing movie but its pretty good.

[Yes Im Chad]

I t hought it was really dump. They over did the politics on it. They try to say alot but fail to actually complete it.
Who are the characters really? Who knows they didnt say enough about them.

[SlowDescent]

love this movie

[richter915]

what's it about?

[Yes Im Chad]

what's it about?
they try so hard for this racism thing but fail to even complete anything about it

[richter915]

they try so hard for this racism thing but fail to even complete anything about it
be more specific please?

[weezer182]

good movie i think everyone should go see it

[varock]

they try so hard for this racism thing but fail to even complete anything about it
i think it's a lot more than just racist issues. it displays both sides of every person...good and bad aspects about everyone. it shows that a lot of racism is just redirected hate, miscommunication, or fear.

[AloneInTheDark]

It kind of showed that everyone is racist in some way about everyone. Ludacris' character was racist against his own race more than anything in the movie, and a lot of different races in the movie really hated each other. It just showed no matter how much we hide it, we are truly afraid of each other. I think it was a great movie.

[Yes Im Chad]

No I am saying its mostly about racism. They tried so hard to put it in a film but really didnt even complete anything about racism. I think they failed.

[popdisaster00]

amazing fucking movie. has anybody seen it? this has got to be one of the most powerful, emotional, all around amazing movies i have seen in a VERY long time. it's in theaters now. go see it.

[Chemical Love]

I want to see it.

[Indie Bracelet]

I made SURE to see it opening night. It was one of the BEST movies I really have seen in a long time. Everyone that I have reccommended to see it though I have warned to be ready to deal with a lot of racism and to be open to controversy.

((apologies for the typos. I'm tired.))

[richter915]

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I don't wanna see a movie about racism. Hits too close to home.

[mrskinnyarms]

Does anyone want to provide a review with some depth about this movie without including spoilers? I would just go see the movie, but non-matinee prices at my theater are $10.00 and that's a bit much to waste on an okay or bad movie.

[cantnokdahustle]

Does anyone want to provide a review with some depth about this movie without including spoilers? I would just go see the movie, but non-matinee prices at my theater are $10.00 and that's a bit much to waste on an okay or bad movie.
i heard it was the poor man's American History X.

[Thomas Sway]

i heard it was the poor man's American History X.
It was much much much more like Magnolia than American History X in the way that it followed several seemingly unrelated characters around.

I loved the film, the only thing I didn't like was the way that they had to fucking explain things OVER AND OVER AND OVER again and just didn't let the audience get it.

***SPOILER***
Like when the little girl didn't get shot, and he had blanks. I understood that just fine without them having to spend another 10 minutes in the store with her getting out the box. There were three of four such instances where they REALLY didn't need to say any of that shit and it would have been a lot more real and powerful to me.

[popdisaster00]

yeah there is a lot of racism and stuff in the movie...but that's not to say that it doesnt touch on rich white couples just as much as it picks on arabs mexicans or blacks.


SPOILER************


my favorite "ending" (there's an ending for each person) in the movie was when matt dillion tries to rescue the girl from the car...but she wouldn't let him because of what he did to her earlier. oh man. such a good movie.

[Thomas Sway]

yeah there is a lot of racism and stuff in the movie...but that's not to say that it doesnt touch on rich white couples just as much as it picks on arabs mexicans or blacks.

The entire point of the movie is racism. I don't think it picks on anyone at all more than others. Definitely. :)

I love how EVERYONE was racist - and that was the point.

*** SPOILER ***

I thought the most important/impressive part of the whole movie was the Ryan Phillippe part. The fact that he was the one that thought he wasn't racist, and wasn't outwardly. Yet in the end - his storyline was the only one that ended poorly really. I think that was done on purpose to make a huge point. - Even those of us who think we aren't racist, deep down, probably have some seed of it somewhere inside us. It's an epidemic.

[Yes Im Chad]

Already a thread
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=71645

oohh well

[Adeniz19]

*** SPOILER ***

I thought the most important/impressive part of the whole movie was the Ryan Phillippe part. The fact that he was the one that thought he wasn't racist, and wasn't outwardly. Yet in the end - his storyline was the only one that ended poorly really. I think that was done on purpose to make a huge point. - Even those of us who think we aren't racist, deep down, probably have some seed of it somewhere inside us. It's an epidemic.
ya but can you really blame the guy... he should of just told him what he was laughing at instead of acting all suspecious(sp?).

but ya i loved all the irony in the movie. probably one of the best movies of the year hands down.

[xThursdayxPTWx]

i heard it was the poor man's American History X.

I personally go by my own opinion, not by what someone else says.

I thought it was quite a good movie, not as good as American History X but by no means a "poor man's American History X". However, the 2 movies are only comparible by the message about racism and discrimination. It delivered the same kind of emotion and power and for a directorial debut and had a great concept. The concept is different from that of American History X, nothing new but done very well.


*spoiler*
There wasn't really anything unnecessary in it in my opinion, not everyone knows what a blank is so that is why they showed that the bullets in the gun were blanks. I've been hearing reviews that lampoon the movie simply for being too coincidental...a lot of things in life are based on coincidence anyway so why not write a movie that has such coincidences. The daughter picking out the red box was most likely cause the shelf was lined with gray, black, and white boxes....and a red box.

ya but can you really blame the guy... he should of just told him what he was laughing at instead of acting all suspecious(sp?).

but ya i loved all the irony in the movie. probably one of the best movies of the year hands down.

Yea, I don't think he was racist...well racist as defined by our culture...but he obviously had the stereotype in mind that the guy was in fact getting a gun out of his pocket (because he was African-American) and not a dashboard decoration.

I did really like the movie but there were times where I felt the writer shot himself in the foot with what he put in there. Like the fact that it is implied just being stereotypical is mildly racist....well he did cast Ludacris as a carjacker....yea doesn't sound bad but it is stereotypical when you think about it.

[Indie Bracelet]

*spoiler*
There wasn't really anything unnecessary in it in my opinion, not everyone knows what a blank is so that is why they showed that the bullets in the gun were blanks. I've been hearing reviews that lampoon the movie simply for being too coincidental...a lot of things in life are based on coincidence anyway so why not write a movie that has such coincidences. The daughter picking out the red box was most likely cause the shelf was lined with gray, black, and white boxes....and a red box.
I thought she bought them because she knew her father might do something irrational, and she didn't want anything bad to happen.. Maybe that's me being too hopeful though.

[urowndisaster52]

i think everyone in the world needs to see this movie

[xThursdayxPTWx]

I thought she bought them because she knew her father might do something irrational, and she didn't want anything bad to happen.. Maybe that's me being too hopeful though.

I thought that at first, but remember when he asked what kind she wanted she said "anything that fits"....he wouldn't just give her a kind so she just went for the red box.

[Spooky]

is it a movie that's better in the theater?... Like i saw StarWars in theaters cause its big and the effects look better, but i pass on lots of dramas and wait to rent them cause i get the same effect at home as in the theater.

[xThursdayxPTWx]

is it a movie that's better in the theater?... Like i saw StarWars in theaters cause its big and the effects look better, but i pass on lots of dramas and wait to rent them cause i get the same effect at home as in the theater.

same way, but I wanted to see a movie last night and Crash looked good and all the others were sold out

[Darrenonfire]

I actually work at a movie theatre and saw Crash last night. I don't know why it took me so long because this movie is simply amazing. Funny thing is that I had seen everything out now except Crash...and I enjoyed it more than everything else (Longest Yard, Star Wars, Kingdom of Heaven).

[xThursdayxPTWx]

I actually work at a movie theatre and saw Crash last night. I don't know why it took me so long because this movie is simply amazing. Funny thing is that I had seen everything out now except Crash...and I enjoyed it more than everything else (Longest Yard, Star Wars, Kingdom of Heaven).
I was gonna see Star Wars then decided I didn't want to spend 3 hours in a packed theatre....The Longest Yard looks retarded, I can only see Adam Sandler's one liners as being the only funny thing in it...Kingdom Of heaven I just haven't gotten around to

and yea wow no one mentioned it, but how good was Ludacris in Crash, I was suprised.

[Thomas Sway]

Ludacris was actually quite good. I was impressed.

As for movies in theaters, I make it a serious point to see them there. However, I'm the exact opposite. I only see movies that are very intense dramas in the theaters. Movies that have the reputation of being some of the best films of the year. That way I get the most enjoyment out of it, and see it the way it was meant to be seen.

Action and comedy movies just aren't worth the money to see in the theater for me.

[AShannon04]

Just got back from seeing this movie, and overall, I wasn't that impressed. I heard really great things about it, but for some reason, I didn't really come out of it feeling that it was as amazing as most people portrayed it to be. Anybody else have similar, or completely opposite, feelings about Crash?

[R7265ab]

Sorry for bringing this back but I just saw it for the second time and WOW the story does not weaken at all what a great movie, to bad it didn't do well in the Box Office.

[YouMadeTheScene]

sat next to my friend who was black when I saw this movie. Half way through I looked at him and he had just a really angry look on his face. The movie ended we didn't really say anything and got in the car. It was really awkward so I turned to him and said "Hey white people suck huh?" and that broke the ice pretty well, but I felt like a real ass hole.

[odnetnin]

I just rented this last night and I must type, it was filmed very well. What a great movie.

[merv the perv]

I saw this movie last night and it was better than I thought it would be, but it wasn't anything great.

It kind of showed that everyone is racist in some way about everyone. Ludacris' character was racist against his own race more than anything in the movie, and a lot of different races in the movie really hated each other. It just showed no matter how much we hide it, we are truly afraid of each other. I think it was a great movie.
The lyrics on your banner in your signature aren't right.

[last light]

great movie

[Spooky]

I just rented it before. It was from blockbuster, so I think i'm just gonna keep it now. I agree, it was really good.

[Vincewithouthee]

Everyone needs to see this movie now. I can't believe it flew so far under the radar because I never heard of it until I was checking out some movies to rent. It just came out a couple weeks ago on DVD. Just see the movie, I highly recommend it to everyone.

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

yes great movie.

[niveK]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=72444

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=71149

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=74895

[mylkhead]

This movie wasn't under the radar - it's been hyped since it hit theaters a while back as a best picture candidate. I saw it twice on DVD just this week. It's good. But now that I think about it, the were kinda hitting you over the head with their racism theme. They could have had the characters actually speak dialogue instead of making speeches and racist remarks EVERYTIME they spoke to eachother.

Anyway, loved the scene where the little girls saves her daddy from the bullet. Precious.

[Katie Schmitz]

damn good movie!!!

[Vincewithouthee]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=72444

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=71149

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=74895

I don't give a fuck.

This movie wasn't under the radar - it's been hyped since it hit theaters a while back as a best picture candidate. I saw it twice on DVD just this week. It's good. But now that I think about it, the were kinda hitting you over the head with their racism theme. They could have had the characters actually speak dialogue instead of making speeches and racist remarks EVERYTIME they spoke to eachother.

Anyway, loved the scene where the little girls saves her daddy from the bullet. Precious.

Really? Damn I didn't know that. Ah well. Great movie anyway. I really liked it.

They did kinda go over the top with it, but still. It got the point out there.

[last light]

its an awesome movie...i missed it in theatres but own the dvd great movie

[mylkhead]

I don't give a fuck.



Really? Damn I didn't know that. Ah well. Great movie anyway. I really liked it.

They did kinda go over the top with it, but still. It got the point out there.


Yeah, check http://www.oscarwatch.com - they're always on top of things

[sleepygrlgreen]

Everyone needs to see this movie now. I can't believe it flew so far under the radar because I never heard of it until I was checking out some movies to rent. It just came out a couple weeks ago on DVD. Just see the movie, I highly recommend it to everyone.what's it about? (i'm too lazy to check on IMDB)

[LiLxb0yxbLuE]

speaking of oscar bait. my roommates want me to tell everyone i know to go see the Constant Gardener.

[radiofriendly]

This movie wasn't under the radar - it's been hyped since it hit theaters a while back as a best picture candidate. I saw it twice on DVD just this week. It's good. But now that I think about it, the were kinda hitting you over the head with their racism theme. They could have had the characters actually speak dialogue instead of making speeches and racist remarks EVERYTIME they spoke to eachother.

Anyway, loved the scene where the little girls saves her daddy from the bullet. Precious.
yeah, i felt the same way about it. Some of the writing seemd very forced, and i even thought it should cut a character or two, or make it 30 minutes longer. It was spread just a little too thin for me.

That being said...this movie was incredible. I've never such an incredible cast all deliver equally exceptional performances. I thought the direction of it all was almost flawless. Terrence Howard is the shit and a half. loved the music too.

what's it about? (i'm too lazy to check on IMDB)
basically it's several vinettes of different character stories and how they are all connected to each other. each story is largely different, but it all deals with racism and stereotypes in our society. it's very watchable, and i recommend it. it will surely receive several oscar nominations. i doubt best picture though, but the acting was unbelievable i thought. It has Matt Dillon, Ryan Phillepe, Larenz Tate, Terrence Howard...uhh...Thandie Newton, Sandra Bullock, Brendan Fraser, and Don Cheadle.

[Thomas Sway]

the only thing I didn't like was the way that they had to fucking explain things OVER AND OVER AND OVER again and just didn't let the audience get it.

***SPOILER***
Like when the little girl didn't get shot, and he had blanks. I understood that just fine without them having to spend another 10 minutes in the store with her getting out the box. There were three of four such instances where they REALLY didn't need to say any of that shit and it would have been a lot more real and powerful to me.

[Lueda Alia]

I'm sorry but I'm going to close this thread because there's so many on this movie already. So go post in them. The links are above cause someone already posted them.

[EnderDove]

Very nice.

[odnetnin]

I am sure this has been discussed before more than twice. It is a very good movie, imo.

[niveK]

what is this the 5th thread on this? Is this about the 1995 movie or 2005?

[ArTkY_]

Fucking great movie.

[A picasso blue]

what is this the 5th thread on this? Is this about the 1995 movie or 2005?
new one. the old title is a documentary about society's apparent fascination with car crashes. havent seen it though


i'm surprised that Brendan Frasier can actually act. same for Ludacris (or whatever rapper it was?)

[EnderDove]

what is this the 5th thread on this? Is this about the 1995 movie or 2005?

I dont care if its the 54th thread on it. 2005.

Fucking great movie.

Damn right.

[elvis2x]

Liked it.

[boldt_action]

Good show, bought it second hand.

[aolsux]

truthfully one of my favorites of all time after watching it....fucking fantastic

[EnderDove]

Its one that makes you think after its over too, which is always good.

[odnetnin]

Great videogame character.

[brutusUbastard]

I actually wanted to see Hustle and Flow simply because I remembered Ludacris's acting from Crash.

"Why do you listen to music of the oppressor?

Haha. So ironic.

[mynamesdistance]

i rented it but havent yet watched it, i hear good things though.

[Talib Scottie]

It's a very good movie,

(Don't read the white box below if you have not seen it)
my favorite Character is the only one who died

[IAmCountryMusic]

i preferred the one from 1993 starring James Spader.

[IAmCountryMusic]

what is this the 5th thread on this? Is this about the 1995 movie or 2005?
it was from 1993, not 95

[popdisaster00]

one of the best movies i have ever seen in my entire life.

[muffinstylings]

i hated this movie. the only good thing was ludacris who surprised me completely.

[theMATEOlife]

what an awesome film. i just saw it for the first time.

please discuss. thoughts/feelings?

[BlackSheepBoy]

Great isn't it? My pick for best of the year 2005.

[FOBcareemo]

it kind of burned me out but i guess that's how good it was

[TJ Wells]

second best movie of 05 next to brokeback mountain

[amkfx3]

I got really excited when my friend had to watch it for one of his classes.

Anyway, I didn't exactly know if I was going to love it or not by just looking at the box, but damn, I was speechless at the end. I would have to say that it's one of my personal favorites that I can watch like a million times and still never get sick of it. [lol]

That's a great film and deserves the recognition for all of it.

[EnderDove]

Very good movie.

[LeftWideOpen]

best movie of 2005 in my opinion. I've yet to see Syriana or Capote though, two movies I have high hopes for.

[radiofriendly]

spread too thin(not nearly enough time spent on characters as i would've liked) and haggis kind of beat you over the head with the racism card. a lot of the stuff in their we could've understood without Ludacris' annoying monologues or some of the other exchanges.

otherwise though, an incredible, extremely well acted film. some very emotional moments.

[SweetAction]

Crash is one of the best movies made in the last five years, because it was about something that we try to say has gone away but is very real today. I didn't think I was going to like it when I first went to see it because of the cast. I really hadn't seen anything that made me think that those actors could tell me a story and make me forget that they are actors but I was suprised because I belived they all did a great job.

It makes you rethink even how you act towards people of your own race.

[Chemical Love]

I was expecting something better, I wasnt impressed at all.

[fedhed7]

i've never seen this movie, but i've heard good things.

[somethingyellow]

i watched it a couple weeks ago and thought it was a pretty good movie

[A picasso blue]

second best movie of 05 next to brokeback mountain
i feel like people are inclined to say its a brilliant film just because its subject is about gay men

[aolsux]

amazingly shot, brilliant story, eye-opening plot....my favorite movie from 05

[popdisaster00]

favorite movie of '05 as well. everything i look for in a movie. i turn it off and sit back and say.."fuck. that was a great movie."

and not to be an asshole but this IS like the 43rd thread about the movie haha.

[theMATEOlife]

yeah i definitely know im late on the bandwagon, but i just saw it for the first time and i ahd to say something.

[captainmccool]

i saw this on a whym the day it opened and was telling everoyne how great it was but no one really knew anything about it, it's really awesome that it's getting all of the credit it deserves.

i remember seeing jennifer esposito on conan the day before it was released saying how house of wax comes out the same day and was going to beat it in the box office, after i saw the movie that made me sick.

[Manbotisdead]

Great isn't it? My pick for best of the year 2005.

Mine too.

I liked Munich alot too. Tech. that came out in 05.

[aheroinmyeyes]

i feel like people are inclined to say its a brilliant film just because its subject is about gay men
If this was true, why aren't people inclined to say that about Breakfast on Pluto or The Dying Gaul, two movies about gay men that came out recently? There are plenty of movies on the subject out at any given time and they do not gain as much acclaim as Brokeback Mountain did. That's like saying someone likes a certain movie only because there are heterosexuals in it, or saying people only like Crash because it deals with racism.

[dashboard1190]

I loved this movie. It was extremely well-written, well-shot, everything. The casting was perfect.

I just finished it about 10 minutes ago, and I'm debating buying it today.

[Mitch]

Overrated.

[matt_rawlings]

I think that "Crash" is one of the worst films to ever take the best film Oscar.

Why I do not like it;

1: The script is generally shit for the most part, feeling the need to beat the 'message' into the viewer rather than going for tact, subtlety or...you know...realistic conventions.

2: There were a few nice performances, but nothing remarkable.

3: It paints basically everyone with the racist brush, disregarding any actual differentiation between people that isn't racial based.

[drudo182]

i liked it but the fact that Brokeback Mountain didn't win best picture is a crime.

[sayyes]

I thought it had some very good moments, but as a whole was overrated.

[TJ Wells]

Ha, last year when everyone was bitching that Crash beat Brokeback, I was so happy because I really wanted Crash to win. But after watching it again, you're completely right; it's not a bad movie by any means, but both Brokeback Mountain and Capote deserved Best Picture more.

[takingbackrufio]

I liked it. Overrated? Yes, but Brokeback Mountain is infinitely worse, and that has nothing to do with the subject matter. It fell short as a love story, and left much to be desired.

[marrost]

Completely agree. This movie was pointless.

[matt_rawlings]

The whole movie is basically;


Everyone is a racist. You are a racist. If you aren't nice to everyone in the world you are a racist. The government are racist. The police are racist. God is a racist.

[FunDZ]

uhh this movie was way underrated when it first came out. Only got hyped after it won awards.

[ActorInThisPlay]

I enjoyed the movie...

[TJ Wells]

However, it's not like its the first movie that beat more deserving nominees:

How Green Was My Valley (beat Citizen Kane, The Maltese Falcon)
Going My Way (beat Double Indemnity)
The Best Years Of Our Lives (beat It's A Wonderful Life)
All About Eve (beat Sunset Boulevard)
An American In Paris (beat A Streetcar Named Desire)
In The Heat Of The Night (beat The Graduate, Bonnie And Clyde, Guess Who's Coming To Dinner)
Rocky (beat All The President's Men, Network, Taxi Driver) <---IMO the biggest Oscar blunder EVER
Kramer Vs. Kramer (beat Apocalypse Now)
Ordinary People (beat Raging Bull)
Gandhi (beat E.T.)
Driving Miss Daisy (beat Field Of Dreams, Dead Poet's Society)
Dances With Wolves (beat Goodfellas)
Forrest Gump (beat Pulp Fiction, The Shawshank Redemption)
The English Patient (beat Fargo, Jerry Maguire)
A Beautiful Mind (beat In The Bedroom, LOTR 1, Gosford Park)

so it's not like this is a new trend with the Academy.

[smokedsanity]

I liked it. Overrated? Yes, but Brokeback Mountain is infinitely worse, and that has nothing to do with the subject matter. It fell short as a love story, and left much to be desired.

I have to disagree. Granted, I was thoroughly unimpressed with Crash, but I don't see how one could say that Brokeback Mountain is worse. I just don't see it.

[thatwasamoment]

"You're a racist if you don't like this movie."

That's what I got from the response when it first came out.

[TJ Wells]

I have to disagree. Granted, I was thoroughly unimpressed with Crash, but I don't see how one could say that Brokeback Mountain is worse. I just don't see it.
In ten years, Brokeback Mountain will be the film people still watch/remember. Crash won't, it's as simple as that.

[smokedsanity]

In ten years, Brokeback Mountain will be the film people still watch/remember. Crash won't, it's as simple as that.

It's a movie that I love more and more with each viewing.

[TJ Wells]

It's a movie that I love more and more with each viewing.
I really need to watch it again...hows the DVD? Good amount of extras?

[matt_rawlings]

Paul Haggis - Hey look! I just wrote a movie called Crash and...

Studio Exec. - You mean, like, the David Cronenberg movie?

Paul Haggis - Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo stupid! My movie is a series of interconnected stories that come together in...

Studio Exec. - You mean like Pulp Fiction. Or Traffic. Or Syriana. Or countless other movies that revolutionised the structure and narrative fluidity?

Paul Haggis - Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo you loser! I totaly made it up man! I am awesome! Like, for realz! It's a film that exams racism in our modern culture!

Studio Exec. - You mean like essentially any dramatic film with a varied racial ensemble cast since the last 70's?

Paul Haggis - Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Why are you being a big pooper! You are a racist! Everyone is a racist except me! I write the movie! Me! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Studio Exec. - Goddammit

[matt_rawlings]

"You're a racist if you don't like this movie."

That's what I got from the response when it first came out.

I feel exactly the same. Everyone feels the need to like the film because of the racial stigma attatched to it.

If you notice it, the two "Big Films" of last year dealt with Racism and Homophobia...I do not think that is a coincidence.

If neither of the two films won, we never would have heard the end of it from either groups lobbying members

[TJ Wells]

Ah give him a break. He did cowrite the Casino Royale screenplay. And The Last Kiss was surprisingly good. He just likes to beat the message over the heads of his viewers a little too much.

[x togepi x]

The whole movie is basically;


Everyone is a racist. You are a racist. If you aren't nice to everyone in the world you are a racist. The government are racist. The police are racist. God is a racist.

thank you.

i know people that use this movie to justify their own racism. If you ever say something like "please don't say that, it's racist", they tell me that the movie Crash says we're all racist, so that makes me a hypocrite for telling them not to be racist which means they don't have to listen to what i'm telling them.

[smokedsanity]

I really need to watch it again...hows the DVD? Good amount of extras?

I have the more stripped down version. It has a few behind-the-scenes type featurettes that are neat and interesting (for people are who enjoy that type of thing), but I didn't notice anything to cause great excitement.

[matt_rawlings]

Ah give him a break. He did cowrite the Casino Royale screenplay. And The Last Kiss was surprisingly good. He just likes to beat the message over the heads of his viewers a little too much.

I havent seen The Last Kiss, and some of the revisions he made to the Casino Royale screenplay were nice, I just think that a good story teller shouldnt have to beat you black and blue with a message in order to get across his point.

Also, in order to portray one point of view, you have to show both points and allow the viewer to draw their own conclusions. Otherwise you are just pissing in someones face and telling them its raining

[Adeniz19]

The whole movie is basically;


Everyone is a racist. You are a racist. If you aren't nice to everyone in the world you are a racist. The government are racist. The police are racist. God is a racist.which in a way is true. everyone stereotypes people.

should it of won best picture? probably not, but i still think it's a pretty good film.

[The Apollo Kid]

Enjoyed it, overrated or not

[Chemical Love]

I think that "Crash" is one of the worst films to ever take the best film Oscar.

Why I do not like it;

1: The script is generally shit for the most part, feeling the need to beat the 'message' into the viewer rather than going for tact, subtlety or...you know...realistic conventions.

2: There were a few nice performances, but nothing remarkable.

3: It paints basically everyone with the racist brush, disregarding any actual differentiation between people that isn't racial based.
I totally agree. The movie was not that good at all.

[boldt_action]

However, it's not like its the first movie that beat more deserving nominees:

How Green Was My Valley (beat Citizen Kane, The Maltese Falcon)
Going My Way (beat Double Indemnity)
The Best Years Of Our Lives (beat It's A Wonderful Life)
All About Eve (beat Sunset Boulevard)
An American In Paris (beat A Streetcar Named Desire)
In The Heat Of The Night (beat The Graduate, Bonnie And Clyde, Guess Who's Coming To Dinner)
Rocky (beat All The President's Men, Network, Taxi Driver) <---IMO the biggest Oscar blunder EVERKramer Vs. Kramer (beat Apocalypse Now)
Ordinary People (beat Raging Bull)
Gandhi (beat E.T.)
Driving Miss Daisy (beat Field Of Dreams, Dead Poet's Society)
Dances With Wolves (beat Goodfellas)
Forrest Gump (beat Pulp Fiction, The Shawshank Redemption)
The English Patient (beat Fargo, Jerry Maguire)
A Beautiful Mind (beat In The Bedroom, LOTR 1, Gosford Park)

so it's not like this is a new trend with the Academy.

What a year that was...

[boldt_action]

P.S. - I really enjoyed Crash. I rented the DVD with no expectations, never really heard of it, and I came away fairly impressed. Yeah, it shows a lot of racism, but that was kinda the point... the plot didn't leave room for a Hero, sorry.

[TJ Wells]

What a year that was...
Saying Forrest Gump is overrated? 'Cause I totally agree with that.

[gilatron5000]

Jesus, welcome to last year.

[matt_rawlings]

Jesus, welcome to last year.

Jesus, welcome to my ass

[vandalsandquinn]

i didn't like this movie at all

[niveK]

Crash should have been titles Magnolia for Idiots

[matt_rawlings]

Crash should have been titles Magnolia for Idiots

Magnolia >>>>>>>*hold down the > button for exactly 46 years*>>>>>>>>>>>> Crash

[EnderDove]

I enjoy it. It's not something I will watch over and over though.

I don't think it simply paints everyone with the racist brush, instead it shows how almost without knowing it people go along with and agree with racial stereotypes. Not many of the characters in the movie were openly racist, walking around shouting out slang terms and protesting. Instead it showed how people say things without really thinking them through.

I think everyone who just says it had no plot and it's simply a film about everyone being a racist needs to think about if they have ever said or done settle things that would be considered going along with a stereotype. The film isn't one of the great ones of this generation at all, I do think it however is a good film and I don't consider it to be just about racism, instead it skims along the top and shows all the stereotypes. All the stereotypes that no matter what people say, most on here have thought before.

Thats my two cents, call the movie pointless or my view pointless but I thought it would be nice to put in a different point of view.

[matt_rawlings]

I enjoy it. It's not something I will watch over and over though.

I don't think it simply paints everyone with the racist brush, instead it shows how almost without knowing it people go along with and agree with racial stereotypes. Not many of the characters in the movie were openly racist, walking around shouting out slang terms and protesting. Instead it showed how people say things without really thinking them through.

I think everyone who just says it had no plot and it's simply a film about everyone being a racist needs to think about if they have ever said or done settle things that would be considered going along with a stereotype. The film isn't one of the great ones of this generation at all, I do think it however is a good film and I don't consider it to be just about racism, instead it skims along the top and shows all the stereotypes. All the stereotypes that no matter what people say, most on here have thought before.

Thats my two cents, call the movie pointless or my view pointless but I thought it would be nice to put in a different point of view.


I can respect and accept that

[kirbs84]

I enjoy it. It's not something I will watch over and over though.

I don't think it simply paints everyone with the racist brush, instead it shows how almost without knowing it people go along with and agree with racial stereotypes. Not many of the characters in the movie were openly racist, walking around shouting out slang terms and protesting. Instead it showed how people say things without really thinking them through.

I think everyone who just says it had no plot and it's simply a film about everyone being a racist needs to think about if they have ever said or done settle things that would be considered going along with a stereotype. The film isn't one of the great ones of this generation at all, I do think it however is a good film and I don't consider it to be just about racism, instead it skims along the top and shows all the stereotypes. All the stereotypes that no matter what people say, most on here have thought before.

Thats my two cents, call the movie pointless or my view pointless but I thought it would be nice to put in a different point of view.

You summed up my feelings on the film perfectly.

I definitely don't think Brokeback should have won over this. Capote on the other hand, is a tough call (for me, at least)

[EnderDove]

I can respect and accept that

Why thank you, I do understand the reasons you stated for not caring for it. I saw it without ever knowing anything about it. My sister rented it and I watched it, unlike most people who heard so much about it before seeing it, I had no idea what it was about. I think that can really play a part in it because people are expecting something a little different or better you could say.

Like I said, I don't think it deserves all the praise it gets but it did at least make me think about things I have thought or even said before.

[EnderDove]

You summed up my feelings on the film perfectly.

I definitely don't think Brokeback should have won over this. Capote on the other hand, is a tough call (for me, at least)

I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain, however I do think it's obvious the homosexuality of the film is the only reason people feel the way they do. Thats obvious and I can accept it, but just the subject matter of a movie should never push it to the top. Like I said I haven't seen it and don't plan on seeing it either for awhile, so I could be wrong on that though.

I thought Capote was good, with an outstanding job by Philip Seymour Hoffman, I think most people can agree with his performance.

[Adeniz19]

I enjoy it. It's not something I will watch over and over though.

I don't think it simply paints everyone with the racist brush, instead it shows how almost without knowing it people go along with and agree with racial stereotypes. Not many of the characters in the movie were openly racist, walking around shouting out slang terms and protesting. Instead it showed how people say things without really thinking them through.

I think everyone who just says it had no plot and it's simply a film about everyone being a racist needs to think about if they have ever said or done settle things that would be considered going along with a stereotype. The film isn't one of the great ones of this generation at all, I do think it however is a good film and I don't consider it to be just about racism, instead it skims along the top and shows all the stereotypes. All the stereotypes that no matter what people say, most on here have thought before.

Thats my two cents, call the movie pointless or my view pointless but I thought it would be nice to put in a different point of view.exactly what i wanted to say but you actually took the time to type it out haha

[RomeoAGoGo]

uhh this movie was way underrated when it first came out. Only got hyped after it won awards.

Agreed.

Also, the point of the movie was to paint everyone as a racist, but at the same time show that everyone is still capable of doing good things.

[gonz]

Saying Forrest Gump is overrated? 'Cause I totally agree with that.
no way

and that wasn't even a huge disappointment, those were all great movies (and imo, Pulp Fiction isn't up there with the other two). I personally would have chosen Shawshank but it's nothing to complain about.

[brutusUbastard]

Munich was the best film of last year

[thatwasamoment]

Munich was the best film of last yearJust watched this movie last week, was very impressed.

[i like guitars]

i agree this movie is ridiculous, it shows every race as having a good outcome expect the Asians. all it shows is that they are slavers and that they cannot speak English well.

[reductiondesign]

I always felt like Magnolia is was Crash wanted to be.

[Mula225]

However, it's not like its the first movie that beat more deserving nominees:

How Green Was My Valley (beat Citizen Kane, The Maltese Falcon)
Going My Way (beat Double Indemnity)
The Best Years Of Our Lives (beat It's A Wonderful Life)
All About Eve (beat Sunset Boulevard)
An American In Paris (beat A Streetcar Named Desire)
In The Heat Of The Night (beat The Graduate, Bonnie And Clyde, Guess Who's Coming To Dinner)
Rocky (beat All The President's Men, Network, Taxi Driver) <---IMO the biggest Oscar blunder EVER
Kramer Vs. Kramer (beat Apocalypse Now)
Ordinary People (beat Raging Bull)
Gandhi (beat E.T.)
Driving Miss Daisy (beat Field Of Dreams, Dead Poet's Society)
Dances With Wolves (beat Goodfellas)
Forrest Gump (beat Pulp Fiction, The Shawshank Redemption)
The English Patient (beat Fargo, Jerry Maguire)
A Beautiful Mind (beat In The Bedroom, LOTR 1, Gosford Park)

so it's not like this is a new trend with the Academy.

The movies that should've won:
Citizen Kane
It's a Wonderful Life
Sunset Boulevard
A Streetcar Named Desire
Rocky (I love Taxi Driver..but you cannot fuck with Rocky..)
Apocalypse Now
Ordinary People/Raging Bull..this one gives me the most trouble. Loved both.
ET
Goodfellas
Pulp Fiction..even tho FG was great
I guess Fargo..
I hated Gosford Park. Fellowship is the only one in contention..A Beautiful Mind was deserving..crowe shoulda won for this, and not gladiator..



crash sucked..
and i refuse to see brokeback..

[Mula225]

Munich was the best film of last year

Yup.

[thejetstolehome]

However, it's not like its the first movie that beat more deserving nominees:

How Green Was My Valley (beat Citizen Kane, The Maltese Falcon)
Going My Way (beat Double Indemnity)
The Best Years Of Our Lives (beat It's A Wonderful Life)
All About Eve (beat Sunset Boulevard)
An American In Paris (beat A Streetcar Named Desire)
In The Heat Of The Night (beat The Graduate, Bonnie And Clyde, Guess Who's Coming To Dinner)
Rocky (beat All The President's Men, Network, Taxi Driver) <---IMO the biggest Oscar blunder EVER
Kramer Vs. Kramer (beat Apocalypse Now)
Ordinary People (beat Raging Bull)
Gandhi (beat E.T.)
Driving Miss Daisy (beat Field Of Dreams, Dead Poet's Society)
Dances With Wolves (beat Goodfellas)
Forrest Gump (beat Pulp Fiction, The Shawshank Redemption)
The English Patient (beat Fargo, Jerry Maguire)
A Beautiful Mind (beat In The Bedroom, LOTR 1, Gosford Park)

so it's not like this is a new trend with the Academy.

you forgot shakespeare in love over saving private ryan.

[TJ Wells]

you forgot shakespeare in love over saving private ryan.
eh...i dont believe that was a rob...shakespeare in love was overall a better made film.

[lilRIPsta]

Crash is incredible. i dont understand how anyone can say its overrated. its underrated if that, it was one of the lowest earners in the boxoffice ever for a best picture. im sorry but i was not feeling brokeback mountain

[patrickhowell]

Crash is incredible. i dont understand how anyone can say its overrated. its underrated if that, it was one of the lowest earners in the boxoffice ever for a best picture. im sorry but i was not feeling brokeback mountain

Crash was weak. It just seemed like a decent episode of Law And Order.

[drudo182]

In ten years, Brokeback Mountain will be the film people still watch/remember. Crash won't, it's as simple as that.

Thank you.

[Smash Adams]

you forgot shakespeare in love over saving private ryan.
Don't forget million dollar baby beating sideways (both were overrated imo, but at least sideways wasn't mediocre.)

[Mula225]

Don't forget million dollar baby beating sideways (both were overrated imo, but at least sideways wasn't mediocre.)

I liked both..

[matt_rawlings]

you forgot shakespeare in love over saving private ryan.

Man, I fuckin hate Shakespear in love

[gilatron5000]

Munich was the best film of last yearthat I'll agree with.

[Scuba Chris]

Don't forget million dollar baby beating sideways (both were overrated imo, but at least sideways wasn't mediocre.)
Sideways was excellent. One of my favorite films.

And Crash is obv overrated. People think that all those storylines arcing together makes it complex and deep. But it was mostly in your face the whole time. The racist thing was definitely forced and was all over everything in the movie. I pretty much hated Crash except for Ryan Phillipe's character.

[matt_rawlings]

And Crash is obv overrated. People think that all those storylines arcing together makes it complex and deep. But it was mostly in your face the whole time. The racist thing was definitely forced and was all over everything in the movie. I pretty much hated Crash except for Ryan Phillipe's character.

Word for word how I feel about the film

[brewsterbuffalo]

1: The script is generally shit for the most part, feeling the need to beat the 'message' into the viewer rather than going for tact, subtlety or...you know...realistic conventions.

The shit about "we crash our cars into each other just to feel a connection to other people" or whatever was just painful to sit through. It sounded like something some grad student wrote after smoking a bowl.

[IAmNietzche]

The worst film to ever win Best Picture.

[IAmNietzche]

The shit about "we crash our cars into each other just to feel a connection to other people" or whatever was just painful to sit through. It sounded like something some grad student wrote after smoking a bowl.
He's talking about the Crash that won Best Picture not the one with James Spader. That Crash is infinitely better though, you have no taste.

[TJ Wells]

He's talking about the Crash that won Best Picture not the one with James Spader. That Crash is infinitely better though, you have no taste.
That line IS from the Crash that won best picture. And while this MAY be the worst movie to win best picture, it definitely isn't the most disappointing upset. Rocky beating Network, Taxi Driver AND All The President's Men gets that honor. Rocky may have been good, but all three of those movies were better.

[unwritten]

However, it's not like its the first movie that beat more deserving nominees:

How Green Was My Valley (beat Citizen Kane, The Maltese Falcon)
Going My Way (beat Double Indemnity)
The Best Years Of Our Lives (beat It's A Wonderful Life)
All About Eve (beat Sunset Boulevard)
An American In Paris (beat A Streetcar Named Desire)
In The Heat Of The Night (beat The Graduate, Bonnie And Clyde, Guess Who's Coming To Dinner)
Rocky (beat All The President's Men, Network, Taxi Driver) <---IMO the biggest Oscar blunder EVER
Kramer Vs. Kramer (beat Apocalypse Now)
Ordinary People (beat Raging Bull)
Gandhi (beat E.T.)
Driving Miss Daisy (beat Field Of Dreams, Dead Poet's Society)
Dances With Wolves (beat Goodfellas)
Forrest Gump (beat Pulp Fiction, The Shawshank Redemption)
The English Patient (beat Fargo, Jerry Maguire)
A Beautiful Mind (beat In The Bedroom, LOTR 1, Gosford Park)

so it's not like this is a new trend with the Academy.

Wow, I never realized how retarded the Academy is. haha

[brutusUbastard]

Munich got robbed last year.

[matt_rawlings]

Munich was the best film Speilberg had made in 10 years

[TJ Wells]

Of the movies last year:

1. Brokeback Mountain
2. Capote
3. Good Night, And Good Luck
4. Munich
5. Crash

I don't think Munich got robbed at all.

[Adeniz19]

lets just say that 06 > 05

[brewsterbuffalo]

He's talking about the Crash that won Best Picture not the one with James Spader. That Crash is infinitely better though, you have no taste.

Um, yes, I'm talking about the one that won best picture as well. Don't you remember when Don Cheadle is spouting all that shit?

I've never seen the other one, but anything with James Spader in it can't be bad.

[Scuba Chris]

Munich was the best film Speilberg had made in 10 years
I need to see that. I miss way too many good movies, and somehow watch alot of bad ones.

[PaulsRightNut]

so far this movie is really depressing me, I don't know if I'm going to finish it.

[caLLmEnOoNe]

The whole movie is basically;


Everyone is a racist. You are a racist. If you aren't nice to everyone in the world you are a racist. The government are racist. The police are racist. God is a racist.
well everyone is racist

[abusedcat]

Crash is a fucking phenomenal film. I just watched it for my Sociology class, and damn - such a good movie.

[Adrian Villagomez]

Overrated. Highly.

[doomcrs04]

I enjoyed this film. Wait for faux-critics to express their opinion.

[BJW7191]

Overrated. Highly.
this is one of the first things i disagree with you entertainment-wise

[kianacarly]

I love this movie. The part where it looks as if the little daughter gets shot when she runs to her dad gets to me every time, even though I know she's okay.

[PaulsRightNut]

I thought this movie was really bad.

I couldn't even finish it.

I get it, we're all racists, move on already.

[mybreakingpoint]

i liked it a lot.

saw it when i was sick last year in my dormroom.

i thought it was really good.

[pshh]

they made asians look awesome

[Adrian Villagomez]

this is one of the first things i disagree with you entertainment-wiseI've read some touching books on race relations. I've been moved by films dealing with racism and acceptance. But Crash is just a hodgepodge of individual stories strewn together for minimal impact overall.

[Adrian Villagomez]

And too many of the scenes feel contrived.

[abusedcat]

Overrated. Highly.
...says the one with the Gran Torino avatar.

[jnnlopez]

I've read some touching books on race relations. I've been moved by films dealing with racism and acceptance. But Crash is just a hodgepodge of individual stories strewn together for minimal impact overall.
I absolutely agree with you there. Just a whole bunch of clichés thrown together.

[Adrian Villagomez]

...says the one with the Gran Torino avatar.When did I say "Gran Torino is a fucking phenomenal film"? Go ahead and show me.

[Adrian Villagomez]

I absolutely agree with you there. Just a whole bunch of clichés thrown together.Yup. I'm honestly surprised that so many people dig it.

[abusedcat]

When did I say "Gran Torino is a fucking phenomenal film"? Go ahead and show me.You're right - you didn't, but it is my belief that when someone chooses something for an avatar, it's a photograph of something they enjoy. Mine's Tom DeLonge because Blink's my favorite band.

At the end of the day though, it's the internet. Chill out.

[Rawrr]

Pretty good. Not that memorable though imo.

[Adrian Villagomez]

You're right - you didn't, but it is my belief that when someone chooses something for an avatar, it's a photograph of something they enjoy. Mine's Tom DeLonge because Blink's my favorite band.

At the end of the day though, it's the internet. Chill out.So you can gush about a movie but I can't shut it down for the glaring flaws I see? At least you're a fan of blink 182.

[abusedcat]

Hah, it's just frustrating when I'm trying to write a paper on it currently.
On another note, though - the actress that Don Cheadale's parter, had dinner with her once and it's nice to she her tits in this film hahaha.

[Adrian Villagomez]

Hah, it's just frustrating when I'm trying to write a paper on it currently.
On another note, though - the actress that Don Cheadale's parter, had dinner with her once and it's nice to she her tits in this film hahaha.Eh, you can write a good paper on a bad movie no problem. How/why did you have dinner with her?

[abusedcat]

Eh, you can write a good paper on a bad movie no problem. How/why did you have dinner with her?
My godfather's Dana Carvey. When they were filming The Master of Disguise together, my family & his family flew down to visit the set and we all then went to dinner after.

[Adrian Villagomez]

My godfather's Dana Carvey. When they were filming The Master of Disguise together, my family & his family flew down to visit the set and we all then went to dinner after.Haha, if you see her again you can let her know you've seen her chest.

[abusedcat]

Haha, if you see her again you can let her know you've seen her chest.
...followed by two thumbs up! hahaha.