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IceTech
12/02/08, 02:08 AM
By nominating Senator Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, President-elect Obama has proven himself as the centrist and pragmatic leader he spent 21 months campaigning on. At first I was a bit taken aback by this considering the long primary fight and tension that must still exist between the two former rivals. However, the more I thought about it, the more it seemed to make sense.

It has always been my belief that Obama would govern more from the center than many on the right initially feared. It is true that Obama likely won the Democratic nomination based on his appeal to the left wing of the party (his initial stance against the war, diplomatic rhetoric, etc.). But since he clinched the nomination in June he has moved closer to the political center. This was first revealed by his vote on granting telecom companies immunity from lawsuits over FISA and his support of lifting the D.C. gun ban.

Hillary Clinton campaigned like a hawk on foreign policy issues. She did not back down from her vote to authorize the Iraq war, she scolded Obama for his stance on meeting foreign leaders, and even claimed that if Iran attacked Israel we would be able to "totally obliterate" them. After running 18 months against Clinton, it does seem to undercut Obama's message of change by considering her as Secretary of State. However, ultimately Obama will be Commander in Chief and can utilize Clinton's abilities as he sees fit.

This leads me to believe that Obama will (at least initially) govern as a centrist. He has recruited a significant amount of members from President Clinton's team. The most notable being former Clinton adviser Rahm Emanuel as Obama's chief of staff and former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta to oversee Obama's transition team. Putting Hillary on as Secretary of State would be a next logical step in solidifying this catalyst.

J.C.
12/02/08, 11:13 AM
I wanted Richardson at state, but I can live with Hillary. I much preferred her to the talk of Kerry.

I think his picks of Jones and Gates were much more proof of Barry's pragamatic abilities and how he'll run his government, since I don't think it's likely either man even voted for him.

saysmydoctor
12/02/08, 12:41 PM
I'm willing to bet Jones did vote for him. Gates, probably not.

J.C.
12/02/08, 12:56 PM
I'm willing to bet Jones did vote for him. Gates, probably not.

I remember hearing Jones was very close with McCain, though so was Powell to a degree I guess.

open mind
12/02/08, 01:03 PM
i'm gonna hold onto some hope that he'll be a little more liberal then his cabinet is but a centrist is still better then another nutty right winger.

more heart
12/02/08, 01:06 PM
good choice, hill has done some good in ny

saysmydoctor
12/02/08, 01:09 PM
I remember hearing Jones was very close with McCain, though so was Powell to a degree I guess.
Can't sit on the Senate Committee on Armed Services and not be close with a former Commandant of the Marine Corps. Once you get that high, you are a politician.

modlife
12/02/08, 02:06 PM
Obama has no choice. The hawks and the CFR dictate Foreign Policy.

CrenshawPunch
12/02/08, 03:42 PM
Lol, change.

saysmydoctor
12/02/08, 03:47 PM
CFR blah blah so tired of that.

Machu505
12/02/08, 04:44 PM
I would have liked Richardson more, but this is fine by me.

Jason Tate
12/02/08, 05:14 PM
Lol, change.
Any pragmatism in our executive branch would be very big change.

J.C.
12/02/08, 05:15 PM
I want more yesmen, damnit!

aoftbsten
12/03/08, 01:24 PM
when did this happen, i didn't see it in the news?