Veronica Mars (Official Thread)

[EndlessMike]

Finally a Wallace sighting, I wasn't sure if he was ever coming back. Tonight was my favorite since the second half started (which might seem creepy since it heavily featured an eleven year old girl, but the Nick Lachey song was fucking hilarious.) And the preview for next week looked incredible.

[Chancetobe]

Ugg, i missed tonights episode. Was it good?

[chokeychicken]

Ugg, i missed tonights episode. Was it good?

no idea. CW didnt show VMARS..showed VTech vs. UNC basketball instead :angry:

[TJ Wells]

Yeah I agree this was one of the much better episodes of the season. I've got to say, though, if they do get picked up for a fourth season (I don't care where) then I think they should go back to the season long mystery again...it just makes the show more exciting.

[Chancetobe]

no idea. CW didnt show VMARS..showed VTech vs. UNC basketball instead :angry:

No, I know they were showing it by me. I saw about 5 minutes before I left.

[TJ Wells]

the thought of the show being canceled...M-(
i will be a sad girl.
As will I.......wait...

[chokeychicken]

Just finished watching the episode on Itunes.

Best episode of the season by far. The stuff with logan and veronica was very well done, and the radio request/elevator scene was perfect. I loved it.

And the ending; oh man. That kind of stuff is what made season 1 and 2 so fantastic. Cannot wait for next week.

[chokeychicken]

No, I know they were showing it by me. I saw about 5 minutes before I left.

I mean in my area; because Virginia Tech is a big deal, I'm sure they pre-emptied VMars to show the game live.

[Chancetobe]

I mean in my area; because Virginia Tech is a big deal, I'm sure they pre-emptied VMars to show the game live.

ohh. haha, ok.

[TJ Wells]

holy SHIT.

they just killed off the sheriff! and keith is back in charge!

[fluke182]

That episode was incredible. I've been frustrated by the lack of a season long arc, but when it's come down to it the rape and O'dell arcs have been awesome too. I don't know, I still really love this show. It was nice seeing Logan have some vitality today, hopefully he keeps it up and becomes Logan again as opposed to "person who reacts to things Veronica does exclusively."

[Scott Weber]

peace out lamb. next week looks sick

[fluke182]

Oh yeah, I'd actually grown to like Sheriff Lamb. That was sad seeing him go down, he was so self righteous it made him very entertaining.

[Kram41]

I wonder where they'll go with the whole Keith being back at sheriff thing...

Will Veronica take over the PI business or what?

[chokeychicken]

so wait; they made next week seem like the season finale. is that true?

[Scott Weber]

so wait; they made next week seem like the season finale. is that true?
It looks like it from the episode guides.

[ghostyouare]

They have that episode and then another hiatus. After hiatus they come back for something like 4 episodes. Atleast that was my understanding.

That episode was by FAR the best of the season and really had me going back to Season 1 as great, great television. It was funny, and sooo much happened in such a short time without it seeming too forced or rushed. The plot points were great, too. I like Logan and Parker, and am interested to see where they go with that. Actually, I'm assuming that Veronica gets jealous, goes to Piz, then there's a big hoopla.

[burnsobright]

uh i'm soo mad. i completely missed the end of this episode.

[chokeychicken]

i really, really hope it gets picked up for another season.

why wont people notice this show?

[Scott Weber]

i really, really hope it gets picked up for another season.

why wont people notice this show?
because of the network it's on.

[music3chick]

Loved this week's espiode
Sad that lamb got killed of, i loved his wit (and laughed at the fact that he shot a mirror)

I hope this show doesn't get canceled. It's one of the shows that I actually go out of my way to watch.

[chokeychicken]

Loved this week's espiode
Sad that lamb got killed of, i loved his wit (and laughed at the fact that he shot a mirror)

I hope this show doesn't get canceled. It's one of the shows that I actually go out of my way to watch.

i think/hope they have a huge reason behind killing off lamb. you don't do that and make Mars take over as head sheriff without a huge reason in mind.

i can't wait to find out what it is.

[konstantine94]

I like Piz. They mentioned my hometown, Beaverton on the show

"Portland. Well, just outside of Portland, a little suburb called Beaverton. Real salt of the Earth people. You know, minivan in every driveway, chicken in every pot"

The description kind of made me go WTF? Beaverton is actually huge, but I didn't expect a TV show to get that right.

I kept spacing out during tonight's episode. I'll go watch it on the CW's website later though.

[music3chick]

i think/hope they have a huge reason behind killing off lamb. you don't do that and make Mars take over as head sheriff without a huge reason in mind.

i can't wait to find out what it is.

yeah, i was pretty shocked that he was killed off. I considered him to be one of the main characters on the show. And Mars taking over so fast? Kinda weird.

Now you've making me wonder. ha

[chokeychicken]

i love that this thread is active.

[TJ Wells]

They have that episode and then another hiatus. After hiatus they come back for something like 4 episodes. Atleast that was my understanding.

That episode was by FAR the best of the season and really had me going back to Season 1 as great, great television. It was funny, and sooo much happened in such a short time without it seeming too forced or rushed. The plot points were great, too. I like Logan and Parker, and am interested to see where they go with that. Actually, I'm assuming that Veronica gets jealous, goes to Piz, then there's a big hoopla.
yep.

[EndlessMike]

Wow, the last two episodes have been probably my favorites of the whole series, and next week looks great too. If VM doesn't come back for a fourth season I will be devastated.

[Chancetobe]

i love that this thread is active.

Me too.

And holy shit, I can't belive they killed the sheriff. Who's gonna be the resident ass-hole of Neptune now?

[TJ Wells]

can someone watch the new relient k video and tell me if the guy who plays dick is in it?

[TJ Wells]

Me too.

And holy shit, I can't belive they killed the sheriff. Who's gonna be the resident ass-hole of Neptune now?

i would say dick, but he has his moments.

[wow]

Oh Lamb :( I can't believe I'm gonna be without Veronica Mars because of the stupid Pussycat Dolls. Time to break out the dvds I guess.

[chokeychicken]

i wish another network, like FOX, would pick up on teh potential of this show and pick it up to replace the OC. if they marketed it the way they did the OC, it could be a huge hit.

[TJ Wells]

i wish another network, like FOX, would pick up on teh potential of this show and pick it up to replace the OC. if they marketed it the way they did the OC, it could be a huge hit.
ok if theres any channel that doesnt know potential when they have it, its fox.

id like to see this go to cbs, i think it could thrive there.

[TJ Wells]

And i'm sure they'd like to get their average viewer age to drop below 70.

[Chancetobe]

i would say dick, but he has his moments.

Dick was pretty nice in the last episode. I remember thinking, aww....

So, I guess they'll have to introduce a new charachter.

[Scott Weber]

ok if theres any channel that doesnt know potential when they have it, its fox.

id like to see this go to cbs, i think it could thrive there.
yeah, good thing they cancelled American Idol, House, The Simpsons, 24 before they got big!

Oh wait.

You can only blame Fox so much for Arrested Development. They promoted the living shit out of that show the first season, and a good amount the 2nd season. Nobody cared. Nobody got it.

[FondestMemory]

yeah, good thing they cancelled American Idol, House, The Simpsons, 24 before they got big!

Oh wait.

You can only blame Fox so much for Arrested Development. They promoted the living shit out of that show the first season, and a good amount the 2nd season. Nobody cared. Nobody got it.

arrested development isn't the only example though. add in fx also and the list gets even bigger.

they've cancelled plenty of great shows without giving them any chance to survive. ad at least had a chance.

[Scott Weber]

arrested development isn't the only example though. add in fx also and the list gets even bigger.

they've cancelled plenty of great shows without giving them any chance to survive. ad at least had a chance.
More examples?

[FondestMemory]

including fx, and starting with shows that i love that may show bias:

firefly, the tick, wonderfalls, starved.

and others:

greg the bunny, undeclared, action, profit, the adventures of briscoe county jr., cracking up.

those are just ones off the top of my head, i'm sure there's more. all could have been relatively successful and earned their own crowd if given the chance, but most of them were pulled off the air before even getting that chance. not to mention admittedly fucking up with the cancellings of family guy and futurama.

and yes, i understand every network cancels a lot of shows, but the ones fox cancels are a lot of times very good.

[TJ Wells]

and if i recall family guy started the new episodes with a list of like 50 shows fox cancelled prematurely

[Scott Weber]

including fx, and starting with shows that i love that may show bias:

firefly, the tick, wonderfalls, starved.

and others:

greg the bunny, undeclared, action, profit, the adventures of briscoe county jr., cracking up.

those are just ones off the top of my head, i'm sure there's more. all could have been relatively successful and earned their own crowd if given the chance, but most of them were pulled off the air before even getting that chance. not to mention admittedly fucking up with the cancellings of family guy and futurama.

and yes, i understand every network cancels a lot of shows, but the ones fox cancels are a lot of times very good.
I'll give you Undeclared. That's it.
and if i recall family guy started the new episodes with a list of like 50 shows fox cancelled prematurely
And 98% of them were total crap. Fox cancels a lot of shows because it introduces a lot of crap that never lasts.

[TJ Wells]

firefly was a great show that was made into an even BETTER movie.

also:

wonderfalls (as he said), futurama, andy richter controls the universe, john doe, boston public

[konstantine94]

I LOVE Wonderfalls. Seriously. I have the DVD's and watch it all the time.

[FondestMemory]

I LOVE Wonderfalls. Seriously. I have the DVD's and watch it all the time.

same here. fucking love that show. it's my second favorite show ever, behind only firefly.

wonderfalls is fucking great though. it pisses me off those two shows were cancelled so early.

both of them were fucked by fox in the same way, by not airing them in order. if it doesn't make sense to people right from the start, why would they keep watching?

[TJ Wells]

I LOVE Wonderfalls. Seriously. I have the DVD's and watch it all the time.
is that the one with the girl from out cold where she talked to all the gadgets in the store? they like came to life? i'd really like to pick that up on dvd.

[chokeychicken]

i gotta agree with TJ here. Firefly and Wonderwalls were both fantastic shows ended prematurely.

but you cant ALWAYS blame the network when a good show is canceled. sometimes its the audience's fault for not making time to watch.

[FondestMemory]

is that the one with the girl from out cold where she talked to all the gadgets in the store? they like came to life? i'd really like to pick that up on dvd.

do it. it's only like $30 bucks and it's worth every penny. and yeah, that's the one. objects shaped as animals talk to her and tell her what to do.

it's one of the better written and most original shows i've ever seen.

[FondestMemory]

i gotta agree with TJ here. Firefly and Wonderwalls were both fantastic shows ended prematurely.

but you cant ALWAYS blame the network when a good show is canceled. sometimes its the audience's fault for not making time to watch.

yeah, but as i said in an earlier post, both of those two were aired out of order by the network. in those two cases, it's definitely the network's fault.

i agree though, it's not always their fault. i blame arrested development on the public, not the network.

[konstantine94]

do it. it's only like $30 bucks and it's worth every penny. and yeah, that's the one. objects shaped as animals talk to her and tell her what to do.

it's one of the better written and most original shows i've ever seen.


Man, it still bugs me that it was cancelled. It's better than most shows out there, IMO. The concept was hysterical, but it totally worked.

[FondestMemory]

Man, it still bugs me that it was cancelled. It's better than most shows out there, IMO. The concept was hysterical, but it totally worked.

and as cheesy as it could have been, they did an excellent job avoiding it being too cheesy to the point of hurting. they actually almost avoided cheesy altogether.

not to mention that jaye is probably my favorite tv character ever. i can't help but have a huge crush on her. she's fucking perfect.

i just bumped a thread from last year about this show trying to get people to buy the dvd, i should bump it again. i feel bad taking thunder away from veronica mars.

[konstantine94]

and as cheesy as it could have been, they did an excellent job avoiding it being too cheesy to the point of hurting. they actually almost avoided cheesy altogether.

not to mention that jaye is probably my favorite tv character ever. i can't help but have a huge crush on her. she's fucking perfect.

i just bumped a thread from last year about this show trying to get people to buy the dvd, i should bump it again. i feel bad taking thunder away from veronica mars.

bump it! haha, the guy who played Eric was freaking adorable. I loved them together.

[ghostyouare]

In retrosepct, this episode was still freaking great. The rest of the season has been terrible, though. It's actually gotten steadily better recently, and I hope the incline continues tomorrow.

[TJ Wells]

I just hope that, if the CW does cancel it, that Thomas doesn't pull an Arrested and decide not to keep it going on another network, even if he gets an offer.

[Chancetobe]

Ohhhhh dam. Murder solved. Kind of predictable though.

[ghostyouare]

I am officially glad that Veronica Mars is abandoning the mystery over multiple episodes deal. I am too tired to type out my reasoning though. The show was good, I guess. The writing was good, and I like where it's going. I just thought it was too predictable. They're running out of places they can go with the long mystery deal because everyone has figured out the way things go.

[fluke182]

Ohhhhh dam. Murder solved. Kind of predictable though.
Predictable, but I really liked the presentation of it. Uniformly well acted, written, made, so on, so forth. The show is pretty damn consistent in actual quality of execution, it's just a question of whether the story is worthy to it. I've so far found all the stories worthy, but I know many will disagree.

[FondestMemory]

that was way too predictable.

is this show done for the season? or just off til they find a new pussycat doll? i can't find a date anywhere for the next aring.

[TJ Wells]

im pretty sure there is one more mystery going over 3 or 4 episodes starting at the beginning of may to end the season.

[Chancetobe]

Predictable, but I really liked the presentation of it. Uniformly well acted, written, made, so on, so forth. The show is pretty damn consistent in actual quality of execution, it's just a question of whether the story is worthy to it. I've so far found all the stories worthy, but I know many will disagree.

Ohh no, I agree. It's consistantly excellent in every aspect. And all of the stories have been worth it. But, you could tell from the begining of the season that the TA was evil, and probably some sort of murderer.

[TJ Wells]

wikipedia says the last mystery will be 5 episodes long starting @ the beginning of may. fucking pussycat dolls. i hope they all die.

[TJ Wells]

I disagree. If the show comes back for a fourth season, i'd love them to go back to the season-long mystery, if only for the fact that he was good enough at that to completely surprise me with the villian. I knew who killed the Principal about five minutes into this last episode.

[Chancetobe]

I disagree. If the show comes back for a fourth season, i'd love them to go back to the season-long mystery, if only for the fact that he was good enough at that to completely surprise me with the villian. I knew who killed the Principal about five minutes into this last episode.

I liked the season long mystery's better as well. It was more suspensful and interesting that way.

[EndlessMike]

I definitely have to agree that the season long mystery is the way to go. Last night's episode was pretty disappointing and predictable. The previous 3 episodes were all incredible, I was really hoping for the conclusion to be great, but it just didn't live up. Here's hoping that the last arc is back to greatness and that this show gets renewed for another season.

[FondestMemory]

lack of wallace is really hurting this season.

and a piz/veronica hookup would hurt it even more.

[senatorlamb]

yeah, I don't watch this show. But shouldn't this thread be stickied?

[FondestMemory]

yeah, I don't watch this show. But shouldn't this thread be stickied?

can't sticky threads about every show.

it resurfaces every time there's an episode, no need to sticky it.

[fluke182]

lack of wallace is really hurting this season.

and a piz/veronica hookup would hurt it even more.
Thank you! Wallace has been sorely missed this year, I think that is tied with Logan being sulky as the worst turn for the season. Plus, I either like Veronica with Logan or pretty much no one at all, so Piz wouldn't fit. They're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole there.

Also, for those that do not know, the last five episodes of the season are standalone episodes, with no story arc whatsoever. Supposedly the cast is very excited about this, but I don't buy it. We'll see how it works, I have no idea but I think they can pull it off. It just will be weird going from season long mysteries, to small arc mysteries, to no overarching mysteries.

[chokeychicken]

i (finally) just finished. itunes was like 9 hours late on adding this episode and it was frustrating me.

i think the lsat 4 episodes of the season/quarter season or whatever were solid. yes, the villan was quite predictable, but I would rather have a solid ending to a season like they executed and not be as surprised than have a huge twist and it not make sense and be executed sloppy. i think they made the right call here; they ended on a very solid note and that is way more important than dropping jaws.

i really hope they go back to a season long mystery as well, things flow smoother and it makes it so much more intriguing. i will miss vmars until may, but i really hope these last 5 episodes are fucking killer.

if they don't get picked up for a 4th season, who wants to invest in a fund large enough to buy the rights to the show and get it aired?

[EndlessMike]

Also, for those that do not know, the last five episodes of the season are standalone episodes, with no story arc whatsoever. Supposedly the cast is very excited about this, but I don't buy it. We'll see how it works, I have no idea but I think they can pull it off. It just will be weird going from season long mysteries, to small arc mysteries, to no overarching mysteries.

Oh fuck I forgot about that. I really hope that's just for the end of this season and they don't continue it into next season. Some of the single episode stories that they've had have been great, but I just don't think I'd like it for a whole season.

[whiteboypain]

holy shit. I didn't know there was a VM thread on this bitch. :postcount:

[Chancetobe]

lack of wallace is really hurting this season.

and a piz/veronica hookup would hurt it even more.

Yeah, I think thier an awful couple. It's comming, but I hope it doesn't last too long.

And for some reason I am having a mind block, but Veronica's friend, Mo, Moze, I don't know why I can't think of the name, and her new boyfriend are adorable.

[Chancetobe]

I LOVE Wonderfalls. Seriously. I have the DVD's and watch it all the time.

Wow, that show was amazing. I wish it wasn't cancelled.

[ghostyouare]

Mac.

[music3chick]

I just watched the last episode today and it was amazing. A little predictable, but amazing nonetheless. Veronica just embarrassed him in front of the class when he was beginning to act all cocky with the thought that he got away with it.

I hope there are no crazy T.A.s where I am.

[boldt_action]

So... whats going on with VMars, I haven't watched any of Season 3 yet, but I'm seeing that it's on hiatus...


wtf!?

EDIT: I may have spoke too soon, I see a May 1st return date...

[summerstars19]

So... whats going on with VMars, I haven't watched any of Season 3 yet, but I'm seeing that it's on hiatus...


wtf!?

EDIT: I may have spoke too soon, I see a May 1st return date...

watch season 3.

[fluke182]

According to Aint It Cool News, our beloved Veronica Mars is likely cancelled, barring some sort of act of god or act of creative genius by Rob Thomas (same thing? discuss). Very sad day for fans of quality television, if I do say so myself.

[leckomaniac]

According to Aint It Cool News, our beloved Veronica Mars is likely cancelled, barring some sort of act of god or act of creative genius by Rob Thomas (same thing? discuss). Very sad day for fans of quality television, if I do say so myself.


Just saw that over at AICN. I nearly cried.

[Chancetobe]

According to Aint It Cool News, our beloved Veronica Mars is likely cancelled, barring some sort of act of god or act of creative genius by Rob Thomas (same thing? discuss). Very sad day for fans of quality television, if I do say so myself.

I feel like quality television is flighting a loosing battle.

[EndlessMike]

I just read that they might bring it back, but if they do it's going to take place 4-5 years in the future and Veronica will be working for the FBI. I can't say I would be a fan of that, but if it keeps VM around, I'd give it a chance.

[ghostyouare]

Thursday, 10:11 p.m.: You may have seen my earlier report that Veronica Mars has been canceled.

Well, let me just say that though I heard this heart-wrenching info from six—yes, six—reliable sources on both the network and studio sides and that the "cancellation" rumor ran rampant around all sectors of Hollywood today, apparently the picture is more complex than a straight canceled-or-not-canceled scenario.

At this hour, here's what I can tell you:

I just heard from Veronica mastermind and showrunner Rob Thomas, who told me, "If we're canceled, I certainly don't know about it."

According to CW insiders, the network has not officially canceled Veronica Mars. However, here's the catch: It is currently considering a different format for the fourth season. From what I hear, that format would leap four years into the future and focus on Veronica as an FBI agent. Aside from returning star Kristen Bell (duh), the rest of the cast is yet to be determined, but it isn't likely that many of her current costars would be on hand.

So, bottom line: Veronica Mars could be: (1) spinning off into a new format, (2) returning in her college years or (3) getting axed.

And let me just say, number three is indeed a very real possibility, so it is most definitely time to rally the troops before it's too late!

If you care about Veronica Mars and want it to survive (and if you're a fan of good TV, I know you do!), please comment below with your name and message of support. And email your friends the link to this column so they can do the same. (I will forward your comments to the powers that be at the CW.)

Then please send a "Save Veronica" postcard or letter to:

Dawn Ostroff
President of Entertainment, The CW Television Network
4000 Warner Blvd., Bldg 168
Burbank, CA 91522-0002

And pardon me while I hop on my soapbox and advise the CW: Canceling Veronica Mars would be a mistake of epic proportions. It is by far the best thing going on the Green Net and one of the most addictive, smart, funny and well-written series ever to air. The fans would not take its demise lightly.

(P.S. That Pussycat show makes me want to gouge out my eyes.)


Friday, 9:22 a.m.: After speaking with very reliable sources this morning, I can tell you the following:

1. Creator Rob Thomas is shooting a five- to six-minute featurette of a new version of Veronica Mars, which is one of three options the CW is considering for next season.

2. This new Veronica version takes place four years in the future, and features Veronica as a full-fledged FBI agent. (This morning's Hollywood Reporter incorrectly reports that in the new featurette, Veronica is still in the FBI Academy.)

3. Kristen Bell is the only castmember who is part of this "FBI years" trailer/featurette. It is not yet known which other castmembers would come on board if the CW chooses this option. Veronica's current cast and crew were informed of the featurette yesterday (hence, the widespread panic and cancellation rumors running rampant—and my panic attack).

4. For better or worse, Veronica's fate has not yet been decided. So, keep reading and show your support below in the comments section. (By the way, never before have I seen comments pile up so fast and so strong anywhere on E! Online. Keep 'em coming!)





If this happens I am not watching anything on the CW ever.

[ThexQuietxCull]

Damnitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ttttttttttt

[xcandynecklacex]

WTF???
this my goddamn favorite show.
if they end up changing it, it better still have logan.

[boldt_action]

yeah this is gay, they better not cancel it, only good thing on the CW.

[Chancetobe]

I will personally start a letter writting campaign if it means that they do not fuck with one of the best show's on tv, and the only thing leaving me with faith in human kind.

[ThexQuietxCull]

yeah this is gay, they better not cancel it, only good thing on the CW.

so true. without veronica, cw would get none of my viewing time. they have so much crap on, why get rid of the only amazing show they have?

[simon1987]

theyre actually thinking fast-forwarding it to veronica into the FBI academy not the FBI itself. but thats only another option the creators are thinking about. at the end of the day itll be up the fat cats at the CW to decide if they are gunna pick up for another season or not, and if they do, whether they wanna continue the current timeline or fast-forward.

[chokeychicken]

jesus christ i hate mainstream media.

[ghostyouare]

theyre actually thinking fast-forwarding it to veronica into the FBI academy not the FBI itself. but thats only another option the creators are thinking about. at the end of the day itll be up the fat cats at the CW to decide if they are gunna pick up for another season or not, and if they do, whether they wanna continue the current timeline or fast-forward.

Thank you for bringing something new to the table.

[Kram41]

I don't think I'd mind the FBI change. The college thing hasn't seemed to work out too well so far.

I think if it changes to the FBI format, it'd have a better chance of having multi-episode mysteries. That's the part of the show that really keeps me watching. If they left her in college and moved to the stand-alone episode format, I think it'd be a huge blow to the quality of the show.

[chokeychicken]

i really hope the FBI format works; I personally didn't think the college thing was that bad. It could have been done a lot better, however. The entire rape thing has already been done before, and I suppose there are only so many VMars-worthy mysteries that happen on a college campus - I enjoyed season 3, its still better than most television, but can't hold a candle to 1 and 2, obviously.

i hope the writers realize what a fan base they have and the potential this show has, and really do something special with the FBI thing.

[simon1987]

I don't think I'd mind the FBI change. The college thing hasn't seemed to work out too well so far.

I think if it changes to the FBI format, it'd have a better chance of having multi-episode mysteries. That's the part of the show that really keeps me watching. If they left her in college and moved to the stand-alone episode format, I think it'd be a huge blow to the quality of the show.

unfortunately, i think that's exactly what the CW doesn't want from the show as it isolates new viewers. i think they just need to juggle both multi and single episode mysteries like season 1 to keep everyone happy.

[electraa]

theyre actually thinking fast-forwarding it to veronica into the FBI academy not the FBI itself. but thats only another option the creators are thinking about. at the end of the day itll be up the fat cats at the CW to decide if they are gunna pick up for another season or not, and if they do, whether they wanna continue the current timeline or fast-forward.
That idea is alright, but I don't like the fact that there might be new characters. The college thing was pretty boring...

[music3chick]

Wow, I just read the statement about Veronica Mars possibly being canceled. Sucks that almost every show I REALLY like ends up being canceled while other crappy shows stays on the air for years. And that's not even including the endless amount of stupid reality shows they have on tv now.

Maybe I should start my own network...

But yay! Veronica on tomorrow :-)

[chokeychicken]

does vmars come on tomorrow?!

i thought it was next tuesday!

[hardluck]

Wow, I just read the statement about Veronica Mars possibly being canceled. Sucks that almost every show I REALLY like ends up being canceled while other crappy shows stays on the air for years. And that's not even including the endless amount of stupid reality shows they have on tv now.

Maybe I should start my own network...

But yay! Veronica on tomorrow :-)

hush hush it hasn't been announced yet.. it is still possibly coming back!!

i'm probably in denial

does vmars come on tomorrow?!

i thought it was next tuesday!

nope!! it's this week. thank you, jesus. I need some Veronica sass back in my life asap.

[TJ Wells]

I am so fucking excited. But so sad it will likely end. That will take the amount of good shows still making new episodes on tv (to me) to 4: Scrubs, The Office, Little People Big World, and Lost.

[hardluck]

I am so fucking excited. But so sad it will likely end. That will take the amount of good shows still making new episodes on tv (to me) to 4: Scrubs, The Office, Little People Big World, and Lost.

little people big world!! when mike and jacob got hurt at the pumpkin farm.. pretty sure i may have cried a little haha.

[chokeychicken]

i really hope these last 4 episodes are amazing. with 24 going to shits i need veronica mars to stay on the air

[Chancetobe]

It's backkkkkk.....
I'm excited.

[music3chick]

I loved tonight's episode. Though, next week's seem a little boring

[fluke182]

Great eppy tonight, man...I missed it. I didn't realize how much til it was back on. If it gets cancelled I'm going to have to fly over there and smack some sense into the CW.

[sammy678]

ewwwwww....i really really don't like veronica and piz together.

she belongs with logan.

[TJ Wells]

ewwwwww....i really really don't like veronica and piz together.

she belongs with logan.
disagree.

but maybe that's 'cause i like piz.

[FondestMemory]

fuck yes. paul rudd next week.

he may be the only way i'll be able to stomach veronica and piz together.

[Chancetobe]

Veronica and Piz is tolerable. I don't think they will last though. And I thought Mac and prostitue girl man were cute, but she was so adorable with her last boyfriend. Why are they trying to make a threesome for her?

[TJ Wells]

So, wait...are they not going to introduce a five-episode mystery anymore? That makes me sad.

[TJ Wells]

Did anyone see this? Not a guaratee it's coming back, but it definitely provides quite a bit more hope:

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=5841ef77-267d-4d73-9436-2addd6257faa

[FondestMemory]

So, wait...are they not going to introduce a five-episode mystery anymore? That makes me sad.

aren't there only three episodes left this season?

[TJ Wells]

aren't there only three episodes left this season?
according to wikipedia there are four more left (after last night's episode)

[FondestMemory]

oh. i thought there were four left including last night's.

[TJ Wells]

Ok, Paul Rudd is quickly making this the funniest episode of the series.

And Leo's back! Yay!

[hayLAYuhROSE]

Veronica and Piz is tolerable. I don't think they will last though. And I thought Mac and prostitue girl man were cute, but she was so adorable with her last boyfriend. Why are they trying to make a threesome for her?



what happened to the last boyfriend? did i miss out during some part of the episode or is she still with him?

[TJ Wells]

Officially my favorite episode of the season. And I liked those My Little Pony songs. I wish they were a real band.

[EndlessMike]

Officially my favorite episode of the season. And I liked those My Little Pony songs. I wish they were a real band.

I was thinking the same thing, those songs sounded pretty decent. Was that really Paul Rudd singing? I'm pretty excited Leo's back, because while I don't hate Piz, the Leo-Veronica relationship was way better. Hopefully it gets renewed and he stays on. And even though Vinny Van Lowe is a douche, he's one of the best parts of the show. Every once in a while I find myself randomly singing "Veronica Mars, I'm watching you" Hall and Oates style.

[chokeychicken]

favorite episode of the season?

that was probably the most pointless and worst episode of VM i've ever seen.

[Chancetobe]

what happened to the last boyfriend? did i miss out during some part of the episode or is she still with him?

She was still with him. Athough, she just dumped him in tonights episode. I don't know how I feel about that. The last one was so sweet and cute. But this potential new one seems nice as well.

[fluke182]

I love Paul Rudd, I enjoyed that episode, even if it isn't involved with any overarching mystery.

[Chancetobe]

I thought it was a good episdoe too. This show can stand on it's own, even without the mystery. Which is a good thing. The charachters are all really strong.

[hardluck]

Vinnie running for sheriff? bitch, please.

[TJ Wells]

More good news for Veronica Mars fans:

On May 9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_9), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007), TV Guide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Guide)'s Michael Ausiello (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ausiello) reported in his blog that president of The CW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_CW), Dawn Ostroff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_Ostroff) had responded well to a trailer for the reworked show. According to this post, a title change for the show is also being considered. The show's chances are said to be looking better following the cancellation of the long-running CW show Gilmore Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilmore_Girls).[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_mars#_note-IGN)


What are they going to call it? Veronica Mars, P.I.?

[FondestMemory]

is the reworked show the one that takes place a few years in the future with her working for the fbi? that'd be lame.

and no matter what, piz won't be a regular next season.

[FondestMemory]

Officially my favorite episode of the season. And I liked those My Little Pony songs. I wish they were a real band.

i think those were cotton mather songs. i could be wrong because i haven't listened to them in forever. but that's who they sounded like.

and i usually hate idlewild, but their song in this episode is pretty great.

[Scott Weber]

I'm 11.

[TJ Wells]

I'm 11.
paul rudd is officially my god.

[chokeychicken]

i just wasn't that impressed. i cant believe so many of you guys loved it. i was bored to tears. this show has lost a lot of elements that made the first 2 seasons great. the worst part is, i cant quite put my finger on what they are.

[MegH]

This season, while I do enjoy it, is missing the use of it's core characters. We've seen a decent amount of Keith, Logan mostly only with Veronica when they were still a couple, and Wallace was almost non-existant for the first half of the season. Don't even get me started on the lack of Weevil. I've begun to think that he's not even a regular anymore...

I worry about this idea of a future FBI Veronica...because I've heard that there will probably be a great purging of the characters we've come to love (or hate).

[Kram41]

Well it sounds like it's coming back for a 4th season in some form or another now.

I heard they might change the name of the show if they switch to the FBI format. I think that might help the ratings a little bit because a lot of guys write off the show based solely on the name.

With the right name, I'm sure it could have some success. The title Veronica Mars turns some people off to the show right away because it sounds like a show for teenage girls.

Anyway, great news that it'll come back in some form.

[TJ Wells]

The CW drama "Veronica Mars" is inching closer to a renewal for a fourth season after a trailer for the proposed revamped version of the series got a warm reception at the network, sources said.

[TJ Wells]

I completely agree that the title turns people off. And now Kristin would be able to actually play closer to her real age (she's 26).

[MegH]

The CW drama "Veronica Mars" is inching closer to a renewal for a fourth season after a trailer for the proposed revamped version of the series got a warm reception at the network, sources said.

Then they have to promote the hell out of it if they want to see promising results...and not put it on a small hiatus to air a show about the Pussycat Dolls...

[Chancetobe]

This season, while I do enjoy it, is missing the use of it's core characters. We've seen a decent amount of Keith, Logan mostly only with Veronica when they were still a couple, and Wallace was almost non-existant for the first half of the season. Don't even get me started on the lack of Weevil. I've begun to think that he's not even a regular anymore...

I worry about this idea of a future FBI Veronica...because I've heard that there will probably be a great purging of the characters we've come to love (or hate).
I agree, there is way to little weevil in this season for me. He was such a great character, and so under used this season. He needs to come back.

And, i'm praying they don't get rid of too many good people when they switch to the FBI format. Honestly, the show wouldn't be what it is, with some of thoes people missing.

The CW drama "Veronica Mars" is inching closer to a renewal for a fourth season after a trailer for the proposed revamped version of the series got a warm reception at the network, sources said.
Well, warm reception is a good sign that some form will stay on air.

[Scott Weber]

Who cares if they get rid of secondary characters. Veronica Mars is, and has been for quite some time, Veronica and Keith. That's it. There are no other characters that show up in every episode...it has a phantom supporting cast that is completely replaceable, even Logan dissapears for 3 eps at a time or is just seem in passing.

[TJ Wells]

Agreed. Weevil and Wallace have barely been used this season, and in my opinion, it hasn't hurt the show. It'll be nice to see new characters, I think.

[Chancetobe]

I like Weevil, Wallace and Logan far better than I like Piz or any of the newer people.

[MegH]

Who cares if they get rid of secondary characters. Veronica Mars is, and has been for quite some time, Veronica and Keith. That's it. There are no other characters that show up in every episode...it has a phantom supporting cast that is completely replaceable, even Logan dissapears for 3 eps at a time or is just seem in passing.


While they may not have showed up in every episode, they still showed up in the majority of them during seasons one and two. Now, not so much. Even Keith has been relegated to limited time in some cases to one brief scene an episode. Maybe it's part of the "transition" from high school to college and meeting new people, etc..., but I miss the characters that we've spent so much time getting to know in the past two seasons.

I won't be surprised if the FBI scenario gets the official green light that we see less and less of Keith Mars. I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case, but I can't help but think it.

And I can do without Piz and Parker. Piz was brought in for the sole purpose of breaking up LoVe. Plain and simple. The most I know about him is that he loves music, which is a bonus, and that he likes Veronica because it's brought up in just about every one of his scenes. Am I missing anything? I still find him to be as boring as his first episode and that will probably not change for the rest of his time on the show, which is only a few more episodes.

[TJ Wells]

Christ. There goes Wallace :-(

This episode is emotional.

[FondestMemory]

i can do without any of the secondary characters except keith and wallace. under the new format though, wallace won't fit in at all, and i wouldn't be surprised if keith is fairly nonexistent.

[FondestMemory]

oh, and piz just annoys the piss out of me. he was unbearable to me this episode.

'oh, wah, i'm gonna turn down an awesome opportunity to try and salvage a two week old relationship. wah wah.'

fuck him. he's gone for that grey's spinoff anyways. so even without a format change we wouldn't have to deal with him very much.

[music3chick]

Haha, i like Piz though. He's sweet.
FBI Veronica, here we come. I just hope it doesn't suck.

Loved the promotional bit for Invisible Children.

[Chancetobe]

I hope Piz didn't take the K Rock internship just to be with Veronica. I bet he did.

And how funny would it be if they mentioned AP instead of Pitchfork? haha.

[sammy678]

Piz's Pitchfork internship is hillarious. This episode kind of sucked in general though. The "mystery" part of it just had a really really stupid solution.

Also, let's be honest, nobody wants to see a sex video of veronica and piz...veronica and logan maybe...

[TJ Wells]

im sick of people complaining about the mystery's sucking. there is more to the show than just the mystery.

[TJ Wells]

yeah ok i wanna see a sex tape of veronica and anybody.

[sammy678]

im sick of people complaining about the mystery's sucking. there is more to the show than just the mystery.


As a huge fan of the show since the very beginning, I def agree that the whole thing isn't the mystery, but my favorite part has always been the big season long mystery. They should bring that back imo.

[TJ Wells]

i agree they should bring back the season long mystery, i think the reason people are upset the individual episode mysteries have been weaker is because there is no season long mystery to rely on.

[Chancetobe]

Piz seems far to sweet an innocent to even have sex with Veronica. I don't think that video is really them.

[FondestMemory]

no dude would turn down fucking veronica.

sweet dudes get hard too.

[sammy678]

^ hahahahhahaha

[Chancetobe]

no dude would turn down fucking veronica.

sweet dudes get hard too.

Haha.

But, still, I can't picture it. I can't see Veronica having sex with him either.

[FondestMemory]

Haha.

But, still, I can't picture it. I can't see Veronica having sex with him either.

i can picture it.

well, when i picture it piz isn't there.

but still. she fucked logan and duncan. she'd spread for piz.

[Chancetobe]

i can picture it.

well, when i picture it piz isn't there.

but still. she fucked logan and duncan. she'd spread for piz.

She was in love with them, and she hardly likes Piz.

[Susanna]

I heard that they are going to cancel V Mars. I don't know if anybody has mentioned that yet in this thread. Seventeen pages is a tad too much to read right now. Does anyone know if it's true?

[TJ Wells]

I heard that they are going to cancel V Mars. I don't know if anybody has mentioned that yet in this thread. Seventeen pages is a tad too much to read right now. Does anyone know if it's true?
You're WAY behind. That was the case, but now they are saying it's more likely than not it'll be renewed. It's still on the bubble, though.

[Susanna]

You're WAY behind. That was the case, but now they are saying it's more likely than not it'll be renewed. It's still on the bubble, though.
Haha Forgive my tardiness, I am way behind. Shame on me for not keeping up with tv drama. Tsk tsk. ;-)

[FondestMemory]

She was in love with them, and she hardly likes Piz.

you don't have to love somebody to let them inside you.

[Chancetobe]

you don't have to love somebody to let them inside you.

No, but Veronica seems like the type who wouldn't just sleep with anybody.

[FondestMemory]

stop crushing my hopes.

[fluke182]

Very good episode tonight, looks like an even better one next week. Logan and his fists of fury are going to be unleashed next week. Who wants to bet...regardless of apperances...it ends with Veronica and Logan back together? I'm in with $20.

[konstantine94]

I need to find a place to watch the show online, I had to work and only saw the last 20 minutes of it. I thought Veronica and Piz broke it off in the last episode?

[EndlessMike]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/070516c.php

I nearly started crying. Hopefully it's not true.

[FondestMemory]

wow. even appears they're pulling the plug on the fbi idea.

i hope she ends up somewhere soon. i'll miss kristen bell like crazy.

[Chancetobe]

I'm praying that's not true.

[TJ Wells]

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20039077,00.html

tears.

[sammy678]

I'm boycotting the CW if they keep a moronic show like one tree hill and get rid of veronica.

[ThexQuietxCull]

son of a bitch. CW HQ will burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[EndlessMike]

I was hoping when I read it on Dark Horizons that it was some kind of joke. Like The CW was announcing that they weren't picking up VM, but then they'd announce that they picked up the new version with a new name or something. No such luck I guess. I did just read on E Online that it could be a mid-season thing, but I'm not really getting my hopes up. Chances are I'll never watch the CW again if this is cancelled.

[konstantine94]

I torrented VM and for some reason, only the audio will play in Windows Media Player. It won't open in Quicktime or Firefox.

[ThexQuietxCull]

I torrented VM and for some reason, only the audio will play in Windows Media Player. It won't open in Quicktime or Firefox.


what kind of file type is it?

[TJ Wells]

do you have divx on your comp?

[konstantine94]

do you have divx on your comp?

I downloaded it and it works! Thanks so much!

[Kram41]

Rumor has it that they're delaying the decision on Veronica Mars and that they won't make a final decision until mid-June.

[EndlessMike]

I just read that it's gone for good. My week is ruined.

[ThexQuietxCull]

DIE CW DIEEEEeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

[TJ Wells]

I just read that it's gone for good. My week is ruined.
yeah its not definitely gone for good. it still has a sliver of a chance.

[EndlessMike]

Did anyone see the list of shows The CW picked up for next year? It includes: "Crowned" a reality show about mother-daughter beauty pageants, another season of that stupid Pussycat Dolls show, and "Farmer Wants A Wife" a reality show whose name alone makes me want to kill myself and others. What a joke, I'm really pissed off right now.

[burnsobright]

I've never been as upset about a show cancellation as I am now. Ugh. I don't understand how One Tree Hill is still going.

[Skadrist]

What a load. The sad part is that many of the writers appear to be jumping ship so even if it does get picked up it might not be the same.

[sammy678]

I'm so beyond upset about this cancellation. Let's boycott the cw?

[ThexQuietxCull]

Did anyone see the list of shows The CW picked up for next year? It includes: "Crowned" a reality show about mother-daughter beauty pageants, another season of that stupid Pussycat Dolls show, and "Farmer Wants A Wife" a reality show whose name alone makes me want to kill myself and others. What a joke, I'm really pissed off right now.


that is just most of what fucking America wants. brainless damn television. god, i am sooo furious. someone tell kristen bell to come to me and ill make everything better

[fluke182]

It isn't cancelled yet. They said it still could come back up in midseason, it's a longshot but it is a possibility. It will be decided by June 15th though.

[ThexQuietxCull]

It isn't cancelled yet. They said it still could come back up in midseason, it's a longshot but it is a possibility. It will be decided by June 15th though.


that is just CW playing with my damn emotions. cruel bastards

[Kram41]

Hey, CW, :efu: !

[Startswithk]

If you like the show and dont want to see it go, email this dude Paul.McGuire@cwtv.com. Let him know you want it to stay on the air.

[TJ Wells]

Buddy, it's CANCELLED. It's not coming back. Give it up.

[Startswithk]

Im aware it's CANCELLED, but i didnt see the harm in thinking that maybe that could change.

[EndlessMike]

I sent an e-mail yesterday because I'm a geek and was super pissed. I doubt they really appreciated though because I spent half of it swearing at and calling all the people who worked at The CW idiots.

[boldt_action]

Buddy, it's CANCELLED. It's not coming back. Give it up.
Actually no, it's not cancelled.

It's just the fall schedule, still a chance of a late renewal, especially if the CW's new shows fall flat.

Kristen Bell fans shouldn't storm the CW's corporate office yet. Though Veronica Mars isn't on the schedule, The Hollywood Reporter says a final decision on the show may not happen until next month.

Source: tv.com

[TJ Wells]

"On May 17 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_17), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007), the CW officially cancelled Veronica Mars. However, creator Rob Thomas and Kristen Bell are currently in talks with CW's Dawn Ostroff about a new series. It is unclear if this new series will be related to Mars or not.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_mars#_note-0)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_mars#_note-1) A new (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaper_%28TV_series%29) TV program, scheduled for a fall premiere, is slated to replace Veronica Mars' time-slot.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_mars#_note-2)"

- Read the description for this new show replacing V.M., Reaper. I think it could have legitimate potential. And it's directed by Kevin Smith, so awesome.

[ThexQuietxCull]

Veronica. Noooooooooooooo

[lindZ629]

Oh damn, I was going to start it next season and then catch up with the previous ones

[boldt_action]

"On May 17 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_17), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007), the CW officially cancelled Veronica Mars. However, creator Rob Thomas and Kristen Bell are currently in talks with CW's Dawn Ostroff about a new series. It is unclear if this new series will be related to Mars or not.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_mars#_note-0)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_mars#_note-1) A new (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaper_%28TV_series%29) TV program, scheduled for a fall premiere, is slated to replace Veronica Mars' time-slot.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_mars#_note-2)"

- Read the description for this new show replacing V.M., Reaper. I think it could have legitimate potential. And it's directed by Kevin Smith, so awesome.
Eh, that's just form wiki.

I think it WILL be canceled but technically, as of right now, it's still not officially canceled.

[TJ Wells]

Even if it's cancelled, I like how this Reaper show sounds.

[ClemTiger0408]

Veronica Mars is done. It was way too expensive to make comparative to how many people watched it. I loved the show, but I'm afraid its over.

Rather than emailing the guy in charge, maybe you should have told your friends earlier to watch the show?

[chokeychicken]

i am beyond bummed about this.

[Startswithk]

i am beyond bummed about this.

same here, but sweet avatar!

[Colin Farrell]

Buddy, it's CANCELLED. It's not coming back. Give it up.

frak you, jackass. I emailed him.

[Startswithk]

frak you, jackass. I emailed him.

woot woot

[Yes. And?]

never got into that show. probably because it was on UPN, and I didn't watch that channel for years...

[chokeychicken]

never got into that show. probably because it was on UPN, and I didn't watch that channel for years...

gerard and kristen bell kiss on the series finale.

[CountMeOut923]

gerard and kristen bell kiss on the series finale.

hahaha

[chokeychicken]

i finally got to watch last weeks episode and after hearing the cancellation news, it really infuriated me. this episode was definitely my favorite episode in a long, long time. finally, we're back to good old fashioned vmars; it has the Neptune drama, it was a little bit of Logan and Veronica, it had a great mystery-ish .. it was a lot of the reasons i love this show so much. and i just look at the CW's schedule next season, and it makes my furious, because Vmars, when its good, really is a better show than most of the shows on secondary networks and even some on main networks. and the fact that its getting canned just shows how fucked up american television and its audience is.

with that said, i'm almost positive they've already filmed this weeks episode, which if i remember correctly, is the series finale. which also means that they've set up all this Veronica FBI stuff for nothing, and the series will end with all these loose ends untied. which is just frustrating as a viewer.

i really hope this show gets picked backed up - it has so much potential that it is leaving on the table.

[sammy678]

I just saw a commercial on the CW for the SEASON finale of V. Mars...not series....there's hope?

[chokeychicken]

i really, really hope so. they have set up this FBi thing really well.

[simon1987]

arrested development and this are two most tragic cancellations.

the FBI Academy idea actually could have actually worked really well. with a new slate at an FBI academy and as she would be older, i thought it might have appealed to a wider audience and done better. still could, hopefully!

[simon1987]

I just saw a commercial on the CW for the SEASON finale of V. Mars...not series....there's hope?

they defintely haven't cancelled it yet. but it's up against the eight ball after it was left out of the 07/08 schedule.

[chokeychicken]

i really, really hope they change their minds. i'm also waiting for the writers to update the podcast; it should have some solid info.

[ThexQuietxCull]

i need kristen bell

[Chancetobe]

It was nice to see Dick finally be sensitive in the last episode.

[chokeychicken]

the more i've seen of dick in this season, the more i like him.

[music3chick]

2-hour finale coming up in a minute!

[FondestMemory]

i didn't realize it was two hours.

i'll watch it tomorrow.

[ThexQuietxCull]

god, those suspenders and those clothes. sweet jesus

[meeotch]

They just played Neko Case. Neato.

[ThexQuietxCull]

anyone else catching this//?

[meeotch]

I am.

[Chancetobe]

Holy fuck at that episode. And holy fuck at the fact that my tv called it the Series finale. They can't leave me with all those questions.

[EndlessMike]

How could they possibly cancel this after seeing those last 4 episodes? I want to kill the people who run The CW. That was an incredible season finale, they can't let a show as good as Veronica Mars go out like that.

[ThexQuietxCull]

How could they possibly cancel this after seeing those last 4 episodes? I want to kill the people who run The CW. That was an incredible season finale, they can't let a show as good as Veronica Mars go out like that.


want to rush the building???

[meeotch]

From what I've seen of this show, its seems like it would be difficult to wrap everything up. It's unfortunate that it's over when there are so many crap shows out there that should have gone in its place.

[EndlessMike]

want to rush the building???

Let's do it.

[ThexQuietxCull]

Let's do it.


have any pointy thingies for stabbing/?

[sammy678]

ahhhh, that set up for such a good fourth season.

I can't believe they canceled it. I'm still not over that.

Also, I can't believe Piz said "i hate to quote john mayer but your body is a wonderland" (cringe)

[EndlessMike]

have any pointy thingies for stabbing/?

I don't know, knives and/or guns would seem cliche. Let's to something crazy like papercut them to death. Something outside the box, you know?

[ThexQuietxCull]

I don't know, knives and/or guns would seem cliche. Let's to something crazy like papercut them to death. Something outside the box, you know?


i got plenty of manilla folders!!!!

[EndlessMike]

i got plenty of manilla folders!!!!

Nice, I think I have the world's sharpest computer paper. I can't wait to hear the name the media comes up for us when this is done. Hopefully it's not something lame like "The Papercut Bandits" or something.

[Chancetobe]

I think we should start some sort of campaign or something to get this show back on the air. I'm not really sure what. A letter writting campigain? That thing where everwood had a ferris wheel. We need to do something.

[ThexQuietxCull]

Nice, I think I have the world's sharpest computer paper. I can't wait to hear the name the media comes up for us when this is done. Hopefully it's not something lame like "The Papercut Bandits" or something.


no matter the name, sweet revenge will be ours.

[chokeychicken]

i have so much to say about the finale, i'm not sure if i even have the energy to type it all.

first of all, my question goes like this; instead of squeezing the entire veronica sex tape thing into a 2 hour finale, why wasn't that the focus and season-long mystery of season 3? they could have made it so excellent with the involvement of wallace and everybody's secrets ..

stuff like that really gets to me because unlike a long running show like the gillmore girls, which has pretty much played out, this show had so much potential that was left against its will on the table. we'll never know what happens to veronica and logan or piz or the election or anything else.

but we sure as hell will get to choose the next pussy cat doll!

the last 3 episodes have really showed me how great this show is. season 3 was rocky, but every show has its rocky moments. 24 had a rocky season. lost was rocky. but those shows have time next year to correct their mistakes.

veronica does not.

i read an interview with rob thomas from the chicago tribune where he essentially talked about how most of the writers for the show have already accepted jobs else where and what a depressing state the VMARS office has been in.

and then he talked about how while the CW wants to talk to him and kristen about starting from scratch .. kristen would probably have none of it and would leave without question.

how does a show that's as good as this get driven into the ground?

i hate that i let myself get this attached to television shows.

[TJ Wells]

i have a question; haven't they been advertising it as the season finale? doesn't that mean there's still hope?

[Chancetobe]

i have so much to say about the finale, i'm not sure if i even have the energy to type it all.

first of all, my question goes like this; instead of squeezing the entire veronica sex tape thing into a 2 hour finale, why wasn't that the focus and season-long mystery of season 3? they could have made it so excellent with the involvement of wallace and everybody's secrets ..

stuff like that really gets to me because unlike a long running show like the gillmore girls, which has pretty much played out, this show had so much potential that was left against its will on the table. we'll never know what happens to veronica and logan or piz or the election or anything else.

but we sure as hell will get to choose the next pussy cat doll!

the last 3 episodes have really showed me how great this show is. season 3 was rocky, but every show has its rocky moments. 24 had a rocky season. lost was rocky. but those shows have time next year to correct their mistakes.

veronica does not.

i read an interview with rob thomas from the chicago tribune where he essentially talked about how most of the writers for the show have already accepted jobs else where and what a depressing state the VMARS office has been in.

and then he talked about how while the CW wants to talk to him and kristen about starting from scratch .. kristen would probably have none of it and would leave without question.

how does a show that's as good as this get driven into the ground?

i hate that i let myself get this attached to television shows.

I completely agree. I was watching this episode, wondering why the sex tape wasn't the season long mystery. With the computer, and secret society, this would have been ideal for that. And now i'll forever wonder what' it's all about.

Whoa... don't hate on Gilmore Girls.

And I get farrrr to attached to tv. It's ridiculous of me, I know, but, it almost feels like you know the people or something.

[fluke182]

I am so sad, it can't be expressed into words. Veronica Mars fans deserve a series finale to wrap up the relationships and give us one last case to see solved by our girl.

Obviously I'm not going to disagree with the "get too attached to shows" thing. I obviously do.

[Scott Weber]

That was the most disappointing series finale I think I've ever seen for a show I loved so much.

[Susanna]

:lazer: That is what I'd like to do to the CW. Shame on them for promoting shit shows such as America's Next Top Model, One Tree Hill, and fucking Pussy Cat Dolls and cancelling quality TV such as Veronica Mars. First they messed with the perfect formula and then they pussyfooted around the idea of cancelling it and then they went too far and actually cancel such a fantastic show. What do I say this? Poop on the CW.

:sigh:

[Scott Weber]

Veronica Mars has been doomed for years.

[Susanna]

Veronica Mars has been doomed for years.
Yeah, I mean God forbid there is actually a show with decent writing that involves a teenage girl. Don't they know that none of us are that smart and that we can't possibly pick up on the nuances of her sarcastic wit? Golly gee, I'd love to watch some more of that fantastically written show called the OC.

[Scott Weber]

Yeah, I mean God forbid there is actually a show with decent writing that involves a teenage girl. Don't they know that none of us are that smart and that we can't possibly pick up on the nuances of her sarcastic wit? Golly gee, I'd love to watch some more of that fantastically written show called the OC.
Veronica Mars was doomed from season 1 with a) it's stupid teen drama sounding name b) them dinking around with teen drama plots for the first 15 episodes and UPN marketing it as such. It never had a chance after that.

[Susanna]

Veronica Mars was doomed from season 1 with a) it's stupid teen drama sounding name b) them dinking around with teen drama plots for the first 15 episodes and UPN marketing it as such. It never had a chance after that.
I agree but I think that the strongest point for that is that it was doomed from day one because it was on what channel? Oh yes, UPN.

[fluke182]

That was the most disappointing series finale I think I've ever seen for a show I loved so much.
I wish they had written an actual series finale now. If they don't wrap it up, the CW is a bunch of cruel bastards because that is no way to end a three year series. They have to respect it more than that, which is what Dawn Ostroff has said for the longest time. I really liked the episodes tonight, but if that's an end, huge disappointment.

[Scott Weber]

I wish they had written an actual series finale now. If they don't wrap it up, the CW is a bunch of cruel bastards because that is no way to end a three year series. They have to respect it more than that, which is what Dawn Ostroff has said for the longest time. I really liked the episodes tonight, but if that's an end, huge disappointment.
It is the end. It's been officially canceled.

[fluke182]

It is the end. It's been officially canceled.
Yeah I know...I'm transitioning from depression to acceptance right now. Gotta give me time!

[boldt_action]

It is the end. It's been officially canceled.
Too bad, it was such a great show.

[EndlessMike]

I keep thinking this is some kind of sick joke. Like some elaborate prank The CW is playing to fuck with VM fans. I just really don't understand how they could have possibly seen those last few episodes of VM and then cancelled it. Fuck, I mean, just seeing commercials for One Tree Hill during last nights VM finale, I started laughing at the show. It looked absolutely ridiculous and horrible, and yet they kept it (and stole VM's idea of moving forward a few years.)

And now I'm stuck to coming up with scenarios of how VM will come back. Like "maybe another network was in love with it and will pick it up" or "maybe they'll make a tv movie, or shit, maybe a real movie to wrap it up". And I know that none of this will happen.

[chokeychicken]

I keep thinking this is some kind of sick joke. Like some elaborate prank The CW is playing to fuck with VM fans. I just really don't understand how they could have possibly seen those last few episodes of VM and then cancelled it. Fuck, I mean, just seeing commercials for One Tree Hill during last nights VM finale, I started laughing at the show. It looked absolutely ridiculous and horrible, and yet they kept it (and stole VM's idea of moving forward a few years.)

And now I'm stuck to coming up with scenarios of how VM will come back. Like "maybe another network was in love with it and will pick it up" or "maybe they'll make a tv movie, or shit, maybe a real movie to wrap it up". And I know that none of this will happen.
To paraphrase the comments of a reader with whom I frequently exchange e-mail (Hello, Wendy), the demise of "Veronica Mars" has me sadder than I thought I'd be (despite seeing this coming a long way off), and also a little relieved.

Am I relieved that this wonderful three-year old drama, which has its series finale 7 p.m. Tuesday on WGN-Ch. 9, is ending for good? No. I'm relieved that fans of the show will be spared another year of nail-biting over whether the CW network would ax the show, mess around with its scheduling (again) or change it beyond recognition into something that might demean the legacy of Ms. Mars and her memorable friends and family.


I still remember picking the "Mars" DVD off the giant pile of pilots for fall 2004. I hadn't heard much about the show, and watching the very first "Veronica Mars" episode, I had the reaction that is one of the best things about this job: I felt like I'd seen something really special, and I couldn't wait to tell the world.

During the last three seasons, I've had my share of quibbles with the show, but none of that matters now. All I'm thinking about is that I'm going to miss the distinctive banter Veronica traded with her equally witty, acerbic friends. I'm going to miss watching a drama in which a young, intelligent woman uses her brains and perceptive abilities to explore the darker corners of the human heart (including her own). I'm going to miss the memorable array of guest stars and supporting characters (even, or especially, the enjoyably sleazy competing detective Vinnie Van Lowe).

I think what I may miss most is Veronica's relationship with her father, Keith Mars. Kristen Bell, who plays Veronica, has rightly received a truckload of glowing press notices for her work as the tightly wound, emotionally resilient young detective. Thanks to Bell's compassionate, intelligent approach to the role, Veronica wasn't as brittle or off-putting as she could have been (occasionally she was brittle, yet in a very witty way). But when Veronica was hurting, she often didn't say a word. Thanks to Bell's performance, she didn't have to. You just knew.

As Keith, Enrico Colantoni was the unsung hero of the Keith-Veronica relationship. Keith was funny, smart, wise and tough as nails. You knew that Keith would do anything for his daughter, and that he loved her ferociously. Even when she disappointed him, he never doubted her intelligence and the fact that, despite all her travails, she had a good, kind heart.

Truly, they had one of the best, if not the best, parent-child relationship on television. I'll miss that. And I'll miss Jason Dohring as Logan; Logan and Veronica's on-screen chemistry, even when the couple wasn't together, was sizzling.

Every year, "Veronica Mars" has been in trouble, thanks to its low ratings. So the fact that the show is ending is not a huge surprise. Still, it stings. Add to that the fact that the CW is going to air another edition of that witless Pussycat Dolls show (which, ugh, got better ratings than "Veronica Mars") and silly fare such as "The Farmer Wants a Wife" and, well, what is there to say? Let us all curse silently, using the colorful epithets we love best.

Still, there's a small part of me that was prepared to let "Veronica Mars" go. I'd rather have the show go out now than suffer through endless network wrangling over in what creative direction it should next head. And to be brutally honest, I was more desperate for "Friday Night Lights" and "30 Rock" to get additional seasons (which they will -- thank you, NBC). "Veronica Mars" had its shot. It didn't make it, and that makes me sad, but we can't say we didn't see this coming.

I know fans are putting together petitions to save the show, but I'm going to thank the cast, crew and writers for three great seasons, and let Ms. Mars go.
~ chicago tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/chi-3vf3vu8may21,1,7243710.story?coll=c hi-leisuretempo-hed)

[fluke182]

To paraphrase the comments of a reader with whom I frequently exchange e-mail (Hello, Wendy), the demise of "Veronica Mars" has me sadder than I thought I'd be (despite seeing this coming a long way off), and also a little relieved.

Am I relieved that this wonderful three-year old drama, which has its series finale 7 p.m. Tuesday on WGN-Ch. 9, is ending for good? No. I'm relieved that fans of the show will be spared another year of nail-biting over whether the CW network would ax the show, mess around with its scheduling (again) or change it beyond recognition into something that might demean the legacy of Ms. Mars and her memorable friends and family.


I still remember picking the "Mars" DVD off the giant pile of pilots for fall 2004. I hadn't heard much about the show, and watching the very first "Veronica Mars" episode, I had the reaction that is one of the best things about this job: I felt like I'd seen something really special, and I couldn't wait to tell the world.

During the last three seasons, I've had my share of quibbles with the show, but none of that matters now. All I'm thinking about is that I'm going to miss the distinctive banter Veronica traded with her equally witty, acerbic friends. I'm going to miss watching a drama in which a young, intelligent woman uses her brains and perceptive abilities to explore the darker corners of the human heart (including her own). I'm going to miss the memorable array of guest stars and supporting characters (even, or especially, the enjoyably sleazy competing detective Vinnie Van Lowe).

I think what I may miss most is Veronica's relationship with her father, Keith Mars. Kristen Bell, who plays Veronica, has rightly received a truckload of glowing press notices for her work as the tightly wound, emotionally resilient young detective. Thanks to Bell's compassionate, intelligent approach to the role, Veronica wasn't as brittle or off-putting as she could have been (occasionally she was brittle, yet in a very witty way). But when Veronica was hurting, she often didn't say a word. Thanks to Bell's performance, she didn't have to. You just knew.

As Keith, Enrico Colantoni was the unsung hero of the Keith-Veronica relationship. Keith was funny, smart, wise and tough as nails. You knew that Keith would do anything for his daughter, and that he loved her ferociously. Even when she disappointed him, he never doubted her intelligence and the fact that, despite all her travails, she had a good, kind heart.

Truly, they had one of the best, if not the best, parent-child relationship on television. I'll miss that. And I'll miss Jason Dohring as Logan; Logan and Veronica's on-screen chemistry, even when the couple wasn't together, was sizzling.

Every year, "Veronica Mars" has been in trouble, thanks to its low ratings. So the fact that the show is ending is not a huge surprise. Still, it stings. Add to that the fact that the CW is going to air another edition of that witless Pussycat Dolls show (which, ugh, got better ratings than "Veronica Mars") and silly fare such as "The Farmer Wants a Wife" and, well, what is there to say? Let us all curse silently, using the colorful epithets we love best.

Still, there's a small part of me that was prepared to let "Veronica Mars" go. I'd rather have the show go out now than suffer through endless network wrangling over in what creative direction it should next head. And to be brutally honest, I was more desperate for "Friday Night Lights" and "30 Rock" to get additional seasons (which they will -- thank you, NBC). "Veronica Mars" had its shot. It didn't make it, and that makes me sad, but we can't say we didn't see this coming.

I know fans are putting together petitions to save the show, but I'm going to thank the cast, crew and writers for three great seasons, and let Ms. Mars go.
~ chicago tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/chi-3vf3vu8may21,1,7243710.story?coll=c hi-leisuretempo-hed)

Very nice article. Very well put. I still hope we get a series finale. COME ON CW, ya bastards!

[ThexQuietxCull]

the seasons of VM are on sale at circuit city for $25 a season. fuck i am sad

[Chancetobe]

Veronica Mars was doomed from season 1 with a) it's stupid teen drama sounding name b) them dinking around with teen drama plots for the first 15 episodes and UPN marketing it as such. It never had a chance after that.
I think the reason it never had a chance is because it's so smart. Clearly teen dramas (One Tree Hill, The OC) get tons of viewers.

[ThexQuietxCull]

I think the reason it never had a chance is because it's so smart. Clearly teen dramas (One Tree Hill, The OC) get tons of viewers.

OC was cancelled. too much on thursday

[Chancetobe]

OC was cancelled. too much on thursday
Good. It was about time. I liked that show the first few seasons, but it went downhill beyond recognition.

[madeephantom]

I think the reason it never had a chance is because it's so smart. Clearly teen dramas (One Tree Hill, The OC) get tons of viewers.

I completely agree. People would rather a stupid drama about rich kids than anything else. It's ridiculous.