Veronica Mars (Official Thread)

[ThexQuietxCull]

I think the reason it never had a chance is because it's so smart. Clearly teen dramas (One Tree Hill, The OC) get tons of viewers.

i agree with that, as far as teen dramas go, VM is too smart for the age group that may usually watch it

also, with an older audience, they most likely see teen actors and write it off as such.

i think that was the dilemma with the show

[Chancetobe]

i agree with that, as far as teen dramas go, VM is too smart for the age group that may usually watch it

also, with an older audience, they most likely see teen actors and write it off as such.

i think that was the dilemma with the show
That's exactly the problem. Which sucks, because VM deserved more than that. I think our generation needs to smarten up. I know even my friends don't understand it, and hence regard it as a bad show, when it clearly isn't.

[ThexQuietxCull]

how can any show with kristen bell in it be bad? you friends need to wise up

[music3chick]

wow, i didn't know it was officially canceled. that sucks
It seems like shows where they have a strong, teenage character always get canceled.
And they have been promoting the Pussycats Dolls like crazy again (Ew)

Well guys, it was fun while it lasted. I'm just glad that I was there from the beginning to watch it.

[Spooky]

i'll miss it, but at least it got Kristen Bell to the point where she'll probably get decent movie roles now

[Chancetobe]

how can any show with kristen bell in it be bad? you friends need to wise up

They watch One Tree Hill....

[sammy678]

A V Mars movie?

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Exclusive-Veronica-Mars/800015752

[EndlessMike]

A V Mars movie?

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Exclusive-Veronica-Mars/800015752

A VM movie would be incredible. But it would be tough to do a movie where they picked up where the story left off and do a movie from there. If I had to have anything other than the show, I think I would want books. VM was originally going to be a novel, I think it would be awesome if he finished the story with a novel or even a series of novels.

[chokeychicken]

i think i would prefer books too. cheaper to create, and possibly much more satisfying.

[ThexQuietxCull]

yeh go with books

[FondestMemory]

i just watched the finale.

what a shitty way to end a series. that's fucking lame.

i had accepted it was getting cancelled, but after that episode now i'm just fucking pissed.

to cancel a show like this, they need notice, so they don't end a show like this.

[Kram41]

I finally brought myself to watch the last two episodes of the show. I had them DVRed and didn't watch them because I didn't want the show to end. The last two episodes were amazing and made me even more sad that this show is over. It's too bad it wasn't marketed the right way.

I think some novels would be great to close out the story. I am holding out a sliver of hope that the show will get picked up again in some form or another, but I doubt it.

[MegH]

I heard that there were rumblings about a possible mid-season pick up depending on how the new shows perform. Don't know if it would happen though.

And I was highly disappointed with the way it ended. I liked the last episode but not so much the ending...

[sammy678]

I heard that there were rumblings about a possible mid-season pick up depending on how the new shows perform. Don't know if it would happen though.

And I was highly disappointed with the way it ended. I liked the last episode but not so much the ending...

Was that said recently?

I seriously haven't been able to let this show go yet.

[EndlessMike]

Was that said recently?

I seriously haven't been able to let this show go yet.

Supposedly they have until the 15th of June for the "final decision." I wouldn't get your hopes up.

[MegH]

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath. I've felt burnt ever since The CW didn't include Everwood in it's lineup this past year to make room for 7th Heaven after it had its series finale...

Now, I have no reason to watch the CW and I say good riddance.

[boldt_action]

Supposedly they have until the 15th of June for the "final decision." I wouldn't get your hopes up.
It's true. It's hasn't been 'officially' canceled, just left off the schedule. There is a slim chance that it could be picked up mid-season if the new shows don't do well.

[chokeychicken]

also, remember guys: family guy was picked back up even after all the shit it brought upon FOX simply due to stellar DVD sales. buying season 3 when its released can't hurt either ..

[ThexQuietxCull]

BUY ALL THE VERONICA you CAN!!!

[chokeychicken]

BUY ALL THE VERONICA you CAN!!!

i really hope they give this show one more chance.

[EndlessMike]

also, remember guys: family guy was picked back up even after all the shit it brought upon FOX simply due to stellar DVD sales. buying season 3 when its released can't hurt either ..

Seasons 1 and 2 were on sale for $19.99 in Best Buy last week, I hope a shit load of people bought them.

[MegH]

I'm trying to be optimistic, but it's The CW...

Amazon has S1 for $28.99 and S2 for $19.99

[chokeychicken]

Seasons 1 and 2 were on sale for $19.99 in Best Buy last week, I hope a shit load of people bought them.

what i don't understand is how somebody from the CW can look at their programming lineup and be like "yep, we definitely need this pussycat dolls show and all the other garbage nobody watches. but should we support the show with perhaps the most diehard following on our network and possibly let it become something great? absolutely not."

[sammy678]

what i don't understand is how somebody from the CW can look at their programming lineup and be like "yep, we definitely need this pussycat dolls show and all the other garbage nobody watches. but should we support the show with perhaps the most diehard following on our network and possibly let it become something great? absolutely not."

I think the sad part about American television viewers is that a TON more people actually want to watch crap like pussycat dolls and other ridiculously dumb reality shows than something that requires a little thinking like Veronica Mars.

[chokeychicken]

my mom watched the first 3 episodes of vmars and had no idea why i rave about this show all the time.

[nicfusion]

I'm trying to be optimistic, but it's The CW...

Amazon has S1 for $28.99 and S2 for $19.99

I have both seasons on DVD. I'm not too psyched about the lineup for the fall. Especially since no Vmars is up and they seem to be all new shows.

[sammy678]

my mom watched the first 3 episodes of vmars and had no idea why i rave about this show all the time.

my mom told me she can't believe that I'm so tv addicted that I'm actually emailing the cw about this three weeks later.

I haven't been this emotionally invested in a show since Six Feet Under...

[sammy678]

A V. Mars book? http://blogs.usatoday.com/popcandy/2007/06/one_last_gift_f.html#uslPageReturn

[EndlessMike]

A V. Mars book? http://blogs.usatoday.com/popcandy/2007/06/one_last_gift_f.html#uslPageReturn

That was a bit of a tease, I thought it was going to be an announcement that Rob Thomas was going to write a V.M. book. Still seems pretty cool though, I'll check it out.

[ThexQuietxCull]

my VM withdrawls arent going well..... BRING IT BACK!!!

[chokeychicken]

i really, really hope that somebody has enough sense to at least let this show have some conclusion. shows getting canned after they've filmed the remainder of the season is just .. unfair.

the book has promise. not exactly what i was going for, but promising nonetheless.

as soon as the sopranos is over next sunday and i have officially lost every show i love, i'm going to re-watch seasons 1 and 2 of vmars because they're some of the best television i've ever seen.

[EndlessMike]

i really, really hope that somebody has enough sense to at least let this show have some conclusion. shows getting canned after they've filmed the remainder of the season is just .. unfair.

the book has promise. not exactly what i was going for, but promising nonetheless.

as soon as the sopranos is over next sunday and i have officially lost every show i love, i'm going to re-watch seasons 1 and 2 of vmars because they're some of the best television i've ever seen.

All the entertainment websites I've been on this week keep talking about how other networks are going to pick up that show Jericho, which got cancelled by CBS (and ended up being fucking terrible and deserving of cancellation.) That drives me crazy because I wish someone in tv were smart enough to do that for Veronica Mars. I mean, if V.M. had only been on for one season and it had a cliffhanger like the one we got, I would be pissed, but not as distraught as I am now, because that's just how tv works. But the fact that people have been invested in the show for 3 years and that's how they repay us is fucking ridiculous.

[ThexQuietxCull]

All the entertainment websites I've been on this week keep talking about how other networks are going to pick up that show Jericho, which got cancelled by CBS (and ended up being fucking terrible and deserving of cancellation.) That drives me crazy because I wish someone in tv were smart enough to do that for Veronica Mars. I mean, if V.M. had only been on for one season and it had a cliffhanger like the one we got, I would be pissed, but not as distraught as I am now, because that's just how tv works. But the fact that people have been invested in the show for 3 years and that's how they repay us is fucking ridiculous.


Jericho was a giant piece of shit. unbelievable that other stations want this show.

[boldt_action]

Jericho was a giant piece of shit. unbelievable that other stations want this show.
agreed.

Jericho was terrible.

[LiQuiD6908]

Hey, i was wondering if any of you guys and gals watched the fantastic show known as Veronica Mars? Seasons 1 and 2 were some of the best TV ever, and the recently ended season 3 was up there as well, esp toward the end. So if you've never seen it, check it out! So VM fans, let me hear ya!

Unfortunately, the show is most likely to be canceled. So if you are a fan, or just want to stick it to the man visit some of these sites, and write letters, send postcards, anything!

www.saveveronicamars.tv

http://www.aintitcool.com/?q=node/32899

www.barsformars.com

[Chancetobe]

I've done it, but we already have a VM fans, where us dedicated watchers go.

[chokeychicken]

wow cool thanks for the update!

[gilatron5000]

no one watches Veronica Mars. That's why it was canceled.

[LiQuiD6908]

wow hilarious response... i take it you're one of the people who didn't watch- too bad you missed out on on of the best shows in history while you were watching american idol instead

[TheOtherAndrew]

wow hilarious response... i take it you're one of the people who didn't watch- too bad you missed out on on of the best shows in history while you were watching american idol instead
dems fightin' words

[fluke182]

no one watches Veronica Mars. That's why it was canceled.
Gil...you were just dropped 1000 cool points. Booooo!

[MegH]

From what I've read...they sent nuts. I know Roswell fans sent bottles of Tobasco sauce for their renewal, but nuts?

[MegH]

But he is technically correct...I wish it wasn't the case, but the rating numbers were shite.

Just curious, do anyone know how other CW shows performed this season?

[buysoap]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=175269


No. No one here watches Veronica Mars.

[chokeychicken]

no one watches Veronica Mars. That's why it was canceled.

which automatically means it was a terrible tv show!

[sammy678]

They're bringing Jericho back because of its crazy fans. Hopefully they'll do the same for Veronica?

[LiQuiD6908]

I know this is a long shot, but considering the show hasn't officially been canceled theres still hope! Check out these links, ppl are doing everything they can to get the show back:

www.saveveronicamars.tv

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32906 <--- link to the mars bar campaign... $1.99 to ship a mars candy bar to the CW and get our points across!

[MegH]

The campaign definitely has potential if enough people take part in it. I splurged and sent 6. ;)

[fluke182]

The campaign definitely has potential if enough people take part in it. I splurged and sent 6. ;)
My family and I sent a combined 30. We're big fans, and my parents have disposable income. I sent 10 of the 30 :-D.

[MegH]

Sweet. 36 just from these forums! That's progress!

For anyone else who's thinking about it, the deadline is Monday June 11th 3pm Central.

[LiQuiD6908]

this campaign has potential... tell everyone you know! spam every forum you go to! digg and blog it! Lets get this done! ... i cant believe im actually getting so involved in this... this is the only show ive ever loved enough to put this kinda energy into- thats gotta mean something!

[MegH]

http://www.theindianfoodstore.blogspot.com /

The blog for The Indian Food Store who has stepped up to help the cause.

Yes, there are pictures of Snickers bars, but they're the same thing as Mars bars. It's just that for some reason the US changed the name from Mars to Snickers Almond. There will be Mars bars, so don't feel duped.

All I have to say is that's a lot of chocolate!

[chokeychicken]

dang. i'm going to send like 10 tomorrow. even if it doesn't work, that's money that i couldn't have spent better.

[chokeychicken]

i just bought a 12 pack; with the free shipping, it was 20 dollars.

i find it unbelievable that over 5000 chocolate bars are going to arrive at the CW offices. the power of the internet is fucking mind blowing.

[chokeychicken]

if you post in this thread and have not purchased at least one mars bar for this campaign, you need to get on the fucking ball.

if jericho can be saved by nuts, vmars can be saved too. for the love of god - buy candy.

[MegH]

Nice, now we're up to 48 bars from us alone! :thumbup:

I hope someone gets video of all the candy being delivered to the building. There's going to be a lot of boxes...

[chokeychicken]

my mom brought up an interesting point this morning.

instead of delivering worthless chocolate, why isn't the money being given to the CW to finance at least a season finale?

[fluke182]

my mom brought up an interesting point this morning.

instead of delivering worthless chocolate, why isn't the money being given to the CW to finance at least a season finale?
Because Network TV is ridiculous and see things like this as a sign of dedication from the core audience, which is enough to convince advertisers, as opposed to money which would not go to filming another episode and just go to waste.

[MegH]

Marshmallows are now being thrown into the mix with the Mars Bars, since well, Veronica Mars...she's a marshmallow. They have about 300lbs of marshmallows lined up.

300lbs of marshmallows. That would make a lot of rice crispy treats...

[whoaitsailsa]

my mom watched the first 3 episodes of vmars and had no idea why i rave about this show all the time.

I tried watching it half way through season two, and it didn't really interest me. Mainly because I felt a little lost. Then I went back a few months later and watched season one online, now I'm a bit of an addict, haha.

I think it's because the show seems to be a bit more linear than other shows, and I feel like if you miss an episode or two, its kinda hard to keep up and you tend to lose interest.

[EndlessMike]

Marshmallows are now being thrown into the mix with the Mars Bars, since well, Veronica Mars...she's a marshmallow. They have about 300lbs of marshmallows lined up.

300lbs of marshmallows. That would make a lot of rice crispy treats...

My friend Andy and I between us sent two bags of marshmallows and 10 Mars Bars. It was very tempting to just eat them after we bought them, but we had to do our part.

[chokeychicken]

DETROIT - Kristen Bell is finding it tough to let go of Veronica Mars, the wisecracking teenage TV sleuth she portrayed for three seasons.

Asked what she would miss most about the character, Bell didn’t hesitate: “Other than everything?”

“It feels sort of like graduating high school. You really only recognize how special it was once it’s gone away,” Bell told The Associated Press in a recent phone interview.

“And of course everyone graduates from different jobs then they move on, but I don’t know I’ll find as special a show ever again,” the 26-year-old actress said. “I think I’m only truly realizing that now.”

The show, which was ratings challenged but a cult hit, was canceled May 17. Bell, though, hasn’t given up all hope just yet.

The network, she said, has until June 15 to tell the show’s producers whether it might be brought back as a midseason replacement.

CW spokesman Jeff Tobler confirmed the June 15 deadline.

Even if “Veronica Mars” doesn’t make it back onto the small screen, Bell says she would be happy to reprise her role in a feature film.

“I’m game. I would work for (‘Veronica’ creator) Rob Thomas again in a heartbeat,” she said. “Not just because of his brilliance, but because he’s a great guy.”

Critics loved “Veronica Mars” from the get-go, praising Bell’s whipsmart heroine, the show’s take on high-school politics and the portrayal of Veronica’s relationship with her father (Enrico Colantoni).

Set in the fictional seaside town of Neptune, Calif., Bell’s character tackled the ups and downs of high-school life while solving crimes. The just-completed third season shifted Veronica and her pals to nearby Hearst College. She still solved crimes and battled authority, but the ratings woes continued.

While Bell’s old show doesn’t have a place in the fall, her new one does.

She’s providing the voice of the narrator (something she also did on “Veronica”) for the CW’s new “Gossip Girl.” The show centers on a group of prep-school teenagers in Manhattan.

Meanwhile, Bell is in Hawaii filming “Forgetting Sarah Marshall,” a comedy produced by Judd Apatow (“The 40 Year-Old Virgin,” “Knocked Up”). She plays the title character.

The actress says she is enjoying the adult humor and improvisational nature of an Apatow production.

“It’s not that cliched romantic comedy where boy meets girl,” she said. “Nothing is really cliched in this movie. It’s all very real.”

[chokeychicken]

One Veronica Mars fan suggested that we fans organize a single day on which to buy the last episode of Veronica Mars on iTunes. It only costs $1.99 (about the price of one Mars bar) and would show The CW that the show still has a lot of fans.
Since all Mars bar orders have to be in by Monday, and since Veronica Mars was broadcast on Tuesday for most of its run, I suggest we get together on Tuesday, June 12 (NOT June 14, as listed on the Ain't It Cool News site) and buy the last episode of Veronica Mars called "The Bitch Is Back".
Spread the word on every fansite, blog, MySpace page, LiveJournal, message board, email signature, YouTube video, wherever you can!
This Tuesday is the day we show The CW that we still support the show financially as well.

[MegH]

I'm one of the only people left that doesn't use iTunes, so I'm out of that one...

Here's a numbers update from the blog (http://www.theindianfoodstore.blogspot.com /):

4848 Snickers Almond Bars - nearly 550 pounds of Snickers!
1920 Mars Bars from England - nearly 300 pounds of Mars bars!
350 Pounds of Marshmallows
= Thats almost 1200 pounds of confectionery give or take a few pounds!

[chokeychicken]

i hope somebody videotapes this.

[sammy678]

I sent some, but I wonder if the CW would be more convinced to continue the series if fans sent money for financing or at least something useful. Sending marshmellows seems a little ridiculous to me.

[chokeychicken]

I sent some, but I wonder if the CW would be more convinced to continue the series if fans sent money for financing or at least something useful. Sending marshmellows seems a little ridiculous to me.

that terrible cbs show jericho just got re-signed for 7 more episodes after getting canceled thanks to a similar campaign.

[sammy678]

that terrible cbs show jericho just got re-signed for 7 more episodes after getting canceled thanks to a similar campaign.

Yeah, I know. I just meant that it seems a little like a shallow waste of resources to me to send marshmallows and mars bars. I hope this works just as well though.

[MegH]

I would rather send the candy, because I wouldn't trust the CW with cash...If this doesn't work, they've pretty much lost me forever since their programming is shite.

Like it's been said before it's happened with Jericho. Roswell fans sent in bottles of Tobasco sause to insure a second season. Alias fans sent in brown paper bags for the same reason. These things do work if enough interest is there.

[MegH]

Today's the deadline. If you plan on contributing, do so by 4pm EST/3pm CST!

[MegH]

Apparently, the show is officially dead as of today.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Veronica-Mars-Officially/800016822

[boldt_action]

Apparently, the show is officially dead as of today.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Veronica-Mars-Officially/800016822
bastards.

[MegH]

I'm still holding onto some hope, but that is pretty much the nail in the coffin. I don't trust the CW to change. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help but feel this is it.

I would love nothing more than for the show to be made into a movie and then do well. Long shot, I know, but that would be amazing.

[sammy678]

:-(

[chokeychicken]

god dammit

[ThexQuietxCull]

i knew those shiteaters wouldn't cave on this. because it is actually a good show, the CW refuses to keep it.

The Pussycat Dolls show and other fucking garbage is what I wanted anyway.

[EndlessMike]

The CW is the worst network on tv. It'll fold in 5 years if they keep putting shit like The Pussycat Dolls and Farmer Wants A Wife on and cancelling amazing shows like Veronica Mars.

[Scott Weber]

Do you guys know anything about the world of business and making money? Serious question.

[MegH]

Do you guys know anything about the world of business and making money? Serious question.

Can't say that I do. But I do understand why it was canceled.

I just don't like it. I wish it had at least 5 million viewers a week because this wouldn't have happened. I wish the CW actually promoted themselves better. It's always going to be that 5th forgotten network with the "teen" shows.

The fact that 7th Heaven and the Pussycat Dolls had higher ratings than VM sickens me.

I also know that there's nothing on The CW that I'll be watching now. It's not a boycott. I just have no interest in anything that they have scheduled...

[Scott Weber]

Veronica Mars, like Arrested Development, was doomed from the beginning. The show couldn't make up it's mind what it was at the beginning, it was a little bit too teen drama and the network marketed it as such. It got lost in the mix and the name Veronica Mars turned people off from the show from the beginning. From then, it really didn't matter what the CW did. It's all about ratings. It's all about selling ad time. The ratings for VM were bad after 3 seasons, so they canned it. It's pretty simple. It has NOTHING to do with the quality of the show, so don't blame CW for that. Blame CW for letting the show be named Veronica Mars and marketing it wrong...and blame close-minded people for never giving it a chance. More people watch Pussycat dolls...that's the show they keep.

[FondestMemory]

not to mention, this show, and many like it, are hard to sell to advertisers unless the ratings are already there.

it's not the kind of show that's going to get a lot of new viewers every week. random viewer tunes in during the middle of a season and they have no fucking clue what's going on, so they don't tune back in.

and, as much as it sucks, if the ratings aren't there after three seasons, it's pretty hard to pin your hopes on them magically appearing during the fourth.

it sucks, especially after the season three ender set up for what could be a pretty fucking amazing fourth season. but, i'm over it already.

[MegH]

Veronica Mars, like Arrested Development, was doomed from the beginning. The show couldn't make up it's mind what it was at the beginning, it was a little bit too teen drama and the network marketed it as such. It got lost in the mix and the name Veronica Mars turned people off from the show from the beginning. From then, it really didn't matter what the CW did. It's all about ratings. It's all about selling ad time. The ratings for VM were bad after 3 seasons, so they canned it. It's pretty simple. It has NOTHING to do with the quality of the show, so don't blame CW for that. Blame CW for letting the show be named Veronica Mars and marketing it wrong...and blame close-minded people for never giving it a chance. More people watch Pussycat dolls...that's the show they keep.


I agree with everything you said, except maybe the title of the show. There was another show that had a silly title, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, that had 7 wonderful seasons with good ratings going by the standards of the WB and then UPN. I actually laughed at the notion of it, and then it became my favorite show and still is to this day.

But then again, the Buffy title at least gave you an idea of what you would be getting yourself into...

Now Veronica Mars is headed to the small screen in the sky with BtVS, Angel, Firefly and other greats that have gone before it. It's been fun.

it sucks, especially after the season three ender set up for what could be a pretty fucking amazing fourth season

I thought the ending was pretty anti-climatic compared to the previous seasons. But I am/was curious to know what would happen to the Keith/Veronica relationship since Keith's career as sheriff was once again in jeopardy because of Veronica...

[boldt_action]

I understand the business aspect completely. I'm not that bitter, although I would have liked to see more VMars, I understand that it was canned for financial reasons.

And I must tell the truth, I didn't watch this show at all, and at first when someone rec'ed it to me, I thought the title sounded terrible. I thought it was like a pre-teen girly show. So yeah, I think that was a terrible name for the show, as far as marketing goes.

[MegH]

This title talk has gotten me curious. I started watching the show last summer, so I'm kind of used to the VM title. But if you had the chance what would you title it? I think we could come up with some decent alternatives. And there was talk of changing the title if the show was picked up for a fourth...

Neptune seems like an obvious one, but too similar to Smallville, I think.

[boldt_action]

This title talk has gotten me curious. I started watching the show last summer, so I'm kind of used to the VM title. But if you had the chance what would you title it? I think we could come up with some decent alternatives. And there was talk of changing the title if the show was picked up for a fourth...

Neptune seems like an obvious one, but too similar to Smallville, I think.
Reminds me of Roswell as well.


But I was actually just thinking this as I was writing my last post.

[boldt_action]

I hate iTunes Canada store.

[ThexQuietxCull]

i understand the money side of things, i just wish people would watch good tv rather than that reality tv bullshit

[chokeychicken]

i understand.

its just unfair and doesn't make sense.

i want to meet the people that make time in their day to watch teh pussycat dolls show.

[MegH]

i want to meet the people that make time in their day to watch teh pussycat dolls show.

The same people who buy their "music."

[EndlessMike]

Do you guys know anything about the world of business and making money? Serious question.

We all understand the reason behind the cancelling of the show, that doesn't change the fact that people are upset about it. It's a show that everyone in here loves and doesn't want to see cancelled. I don't think anyone really got their hopes too high that the show was going to be renewed because of us sending candy, it was just a fun way to show gratitude and support for Veronica Mars. There was really no need to criticize/be a dick about it.

[Scott Weber]

We all understand the reason behind the cancelling of the show, that doesn't change the fact that people are upset about it. It's a show that everyone in here loves and doesn't want to see cancelled. I don't think anyone really got their hopes too high that the show was going to be renewed because of us sending candy, it was just a fun way to show gratitude and support for Veronica Mars. There was really no need to criticize/be a dick about it.
What am I supposed to say when I see stuff like this?
The CW is the worst network on tv. It'll fold in 5 years if they keep putting shit like The Pussycat Dolls and Farmer Wants A Wife on and cancelling amazing shows like Veronica Mars.
That's a comment that shows you didn't know what you were talking about. The CW won't fold by putting shows that get better ratings on the air...it'll fold if it keeps cult classics like Veronica Mars on the air that gets terrible ratings because America is stupid. Sorry that I called it out. It sucks, and I'm bummed at the CW too, but people always put wayyyyyyyy too much blame on the networks when shows get canceled. It's a business.

[EndlessMike]

Yeah that comment was more based on anger than logic. I'm just saying, the people in here aren't retarded, just upset.

[Scott Weber]

Yeah that comment was more based on anger than logic. I'm just saying, the people in here aren't retarded, just upset.
I gotcha.

[EndlessMike]

http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/06/12/will-veronica-mars-make-the-jump-to-comics/

I think this could be pretty cool. I've heard that the Buffy comics are pretty good (I never watched the show, so I never read the comics.)

[MegH]

I love Buffy and I've recently gotten into comics, but it took me a while to really get into the S8 comics. They're great, don't get me wrong. But going from live-action to a comic book just took a while to adjust to. I'm just glad to have something since it's been so long.

I don't know how VM would work as a comic, though. People can't expect sales numbers like the Buffy issues mainly because the fanbase for Buffy is larger than VM's. I would buy at least the first issue to see how everything transfers, though.

[im_wide_awake]

My theology teacher is her cousin. SO HA

[MegH]

My theology teacher is her cousin. SO HA

Who is "her?" I'm assuming you mean Dawn Ostroff. In any case, does it matter? Nope.

[ThexQuietxCull]

My theology teacher is her cousin. SO HA


your specificity on "her" is needed here

[boldt_action]

Rob Thomas already got a new jobs folks.

[MegH]

He's had it since VM was left off the schedule unfortunately.

K. Bell also is doing the voice-over for one of the CW's new shows, Gossip Girl.

[MegH]

The comics appear to be going into production.

From Kristin's column over at E!online:

J in New York: I work at DC Comics, and you've got some big love here. There's a bunch of us who take your word for gospel, and though it's already sorta out there, we just wanted to send some info your way on the Veronica Mars comic books. They'll be published by our Wildstorm imprint, which is based in San Diego, and R.T. is looking to be firmly on board. We're even hoping for a late fall release of the first issue. Hopefully, more to come...Keep up the good work!


Watch with Kristin (http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/index.jsp?uuid=532f7f1a-088e-4127-b138-fb6348dee58a)

[ThexQuietxCull]

Rob Thomas already got a new jobs folks.


what job is that?

[boldt_action]

what job is that?
Producing for Gossip Girl.

[MegH]

Producing for Gossip Girl.

Not sure about Gossip Girl, but he is going to be executive producter of the ABC midseason comedy Miss/Guided.

[fluke182]

The comics appear to be going into production.

From Kristin's column over at E!online:

J in New York: I work at DC Comics, and you've got some big love here. There's a bunch of us who take your word for gospel, and though it's already sorta out there, we just wanted to send some info your way on the Veronica Mars comic books. They'll be published by our Wildstorm imprint, which is based in San Diego, and R.T. is looking to be firmly on board. We're even hoping for a late fall release of the first issue. Hopefully, more to come...Keep up the good work!


Watch with Kristin (http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/index.jsp?uuid=532f7f1a-088e-4127-b138-fb6348dee58a)
Hell yes! That is going to be fantastic!

[MegH]

I'm just curious to see if they continue directly following the "series finale" or if they start the comics with FBI Veronica. I'm happy either way, though.

[fluke182]

I'm just curious to see if they continue directly following the "series finale" or if they start the comics with FBI Veronica. I'm happy either way, though.
If they're going the comic route, it has to be after the series finale. The only reason they were going FBI Veronica was because of a last ditch attempt to get renewed. Gotta stick with Veronica classic!

[boldt_action]

Not sure about Gossip Girl, but he is going to be executive producter of the ABC midseason comedy Miss/Guided.
Oops, I think I got my facts mixed up, I read the article a while ago.

[MegH]

Oops, I think I got my facts mixed up, I read the article a while ago.

No problem. Kristen Bell is set to be the narrator for Gossip Girl.

[EndlessMike]

If they're going the comic route, it has to be after the series finale. The only reason they were going FBI Veronica was because of a last ditch attempt to get renewed. Gotta stick with Veronica classic!

If they skipped to the FBI for the comic I'd be pissed. I want to know what happens to Keith and don't want just some lame mention of it.

[MegH]

Here's a blog entry about how networks will be watching the DVD sales of The Black Donnelys, Veronica Mars, and Jericho: Copywrite, Ink.: Selling DVDs: NBC, CBS, and The CW (http://copywriteink.blogspot.com/2007/06/selling-series-nbc-cbs-and-cw.html)

Veronica Mars. The third season is due to be released with a 6-DVD set on Oct. 23 (not available for preorder on Amazon). Although fans pulled together a campaign that sent Mars Bars (Snickers and marshmallows too) to The CW, creator Rob Thomas confirmed a dead end on June 12.

Working for the fans. They have two seasons under their belt, both with very strong sales. They've earned Thomas' appreciation as fans, and he promised to do something with the Veronica Mars character if not in comic books, then perhaps in a new series based on the character or even a film (if you believe some rumors).

Working against the fans. There is the simple fact that many of the stars (Kristen Bell, Chris Lowell, Enrico Colantoni, and Tina Majorino) have already moved on to new TV and movie projects. So even if a character revival rumor beyond comics became true, it's likely not to be Bell. (Amazon season one sales rank, 634; season two, 573)

[MegH]

Cover art for Season 3.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/detoxcocktails/vmbigart.jpg

IMO, Weevil shouldn't be there since he was barely in this season...Not upset over the lack of Piz, though.

[chokeychicken]

i'm going to be buying season 3 the day it comes out and will encourage other VM fans to as well. even if it doesn't get brought back, the show deserves to be supported.

[boldt_action]

Where the hell is Piz? He was the man,

[ThexQuietxCull]

man, i guess i really need to buy these. can never get enough kristen bell

[Chancetobe]

Didn't Family Guy come back on the air because of really great DVD sales?

[MegH]

Didn't Family Guy come back on the air because of really great DVD sales?

Yes. Unfortunately, however, many who were a part of VM are already getting new work on other shows. In addition to K. Bell and mastermind Rob Thomas, Jason Dohring ("Logan") has been cast in CBS' new vampire drama Moonlight. There's life after Mars for TV actor | Entertainment | Television | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSN2832352620070628)

[Chancetobe]

Yes. Unfortunately, however, many who were a part of VM are already getting new work on other shows. In addition to K. Bell and mastermind Rob Thomas, Jason Dohring ("Logan") has been cast in CBS' new vampire drama Moonlight. There's life after Mars for TV actor | Entertainment | Television | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSN2832352620070628)

I guess maybe it's possible that all of their new shows will suck (although, i respect these actors, so they probably don't) and will come back. A girl can hope i guess. haha.

[MegH]

I guess maybe it's possible that all of their new shows will suck (although, i respect these actors, so they probably don't) and will come back. A girl can hope i guess. haha.

I hear ya. I'll probably give Moonlight a try, but I liked that show when it was known as Angel. :whistle:

[Chancetobe]

I hear ya. I'll probably give Moonlight a try, but I liked that show when it was known as Angel. :whistle:

I'm actually looking forward to gossip girl.

[MegH]

Gossip Girl isn't really my type of thing. I'm more into the Moonlight-esque shows. VM was the only show on my viewing schedule that didn't involve the supernatural, lol. Before that was Everwood, which was also left off the schedule when The CW came about. Two quality shows...gone.

[Chancetobe]

Gossip Girl isn't really my type of thing. I'm more into the Moonlight-esque shows. VM was the only show on my viewing schedule that didn't involve the supernatural, lol. Before that was Everwood, which was also left off the schedule when The CW came about. Two quality shows...gone.
I was beyond pissed when they canceled Everwood in Favor of another season of 7th heaven. I mean, what the hell was the CW thinking bringing back 7th heaven? That show has been dead and awful for years now. Everwood had that one bad season, but it recouped very well i thought.

[chokeychicken]

it was really weird that dick's brother was the star of law and order: SVU tuesday night, and professor landry was on pushing daisies last night.

just makes me miss this show.

[music3chick]

it was really weird that dick's brother was the star of law and order: SVU tuesday night, and professor landry was on pushing daisies last night.

just makes me miss this show.

same thing here. It's depressing to watch tv and see reminders of this show. I'm still pissed that it was canceled.
Now they have crap like "Online Nation". Thanks for informing me of what videos I can watch on youtube :rolleyes:

[chokeychicken]

for the kids that really loved this show and still miss it, i found something very interesting on youtube today. the 12 minute season 4 teaser that was shown to CW execs in a last ditch effort to save the show. its about as close to new Vmars as we'll get:

Part I:

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Part II:

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[sammy678]

Those clips plus an explanation of why they were going to change the show are in the extras of the season 3 dvd.

[Scott Weber]

Video no longer available? noooooooooooooooooooo

[FondestMemory]

as much as i loved this show and want to be inside kristen bell, i'd rather have no veronica mars than have it in that form.

that would just be a run of the mill detective show with really nothing distinguishing it from the rest. at least in it's original form is was original.

also, having that as a season 4 premiere would just piss me off. the season three finale was a great season finale that opened up so many stories for season four. ignoring all of them and going this route would infuriate me.

[JakeOff946]

i'm a die hard vmars fan, but if this was their pitch, no wonder it didn't make the cut. in his attempt to shove the series in another direction and in her first case she is sent back to high school? and how about finishing off the story lines from season three finale?

[FondestMemory]

i'm a die hard vmars fan, but if this was their pitch, no wonder it didn't make the cut. in his attempt to shove the series in another direction and in her first case she is sent back to high school? and how about finishing off the story lines from season three finale?

it wasn't his choice to shove the series in another direction. if he had his way, he'd continue where season three left off.

the network wasn't willing to do that though. they were done with the show in it's original format. the execs didn't care about the story lines from season three. they wanted a show in a new format in hopes of gaining better ratings. the fbi angle was just a last ditch effort trying to keep the show on the air.

[JakeOff946]

it wasn't his choice to shove the series in another direction. if he had his way, he'd continue where season three left off.

the network wasn't willing to do that though. they were done with the show in it's original format. the execs didn't care about the story lines from season three. they wanted a show in a new format in hopes of gaining better ratings. the fbi angle was just a last ditch effort trying to keep the show on the air.



i understand that, im not saying he should have thrown in an ending to season 3 in the trailer. but tie up the ends in a blog or something. rob thomas knew where it was going, or where he wanted it to go. regardless it sad to say goodbye to one of the best shows on tv. but im used to it by now. since every show i watch seems to go in the brillant but cancelled category. i almost stopped watching the office because i was worried it would cancelled. thank god it scraped by. but word is kristen bell is in talks to get back on the cw.

[chokeychicken]

i mean, i agree on both counts. i feel like as a die hard fan who has supported this damn show in every way i possibly could, i felt a little cheated. i feel like with all the resources available for getting your message out there nowadays, thomas could have done SOMETHING. he could have tied stuff up in some way, some how. whether it was via the internet, via a blog, a podcast or webcast, something. so yeah, i feel a little cheated to care about this show so much and then get fucked in the end. the fact that its not thomas' or anybody else's at VM camp's fault is not the point. something could have been done - because we sure as hell did everything we could on our end.

on the other hand, i completely understand that the way hollwood works isnt always fair, and this kind of stuff happens all the time. that doesn't make it any easier to swallow.

watching this made my heart beat faster - not because it was necessarily mind blowing, but because it reminded me just how much i loved this show and these characters. watching youtube clips of vm and logan just made me realize how they really did have something special in the on-screen chemistry department.

we can sit around and wish for it to come back all we want, but it will probably never happen. . but we do have 2 1/2 seasons (the 3rd counts as 1/2) of solid, solid, solid television.

i had no idea these were extras on the dvd.

[JakeOff946]

thats how i felt watching the trailer.....first i just felt sad and missed the show and witty banter between characters. then happy about the seasons we got (the third barely scraped by) and then angry because we wont see another new episode. and to think i found this show by accident.

[chokeychicken]

i think this show was really hurt by how it were promoted. had it had a different name (Perhaps MARS), and the previews didnt make it look like a mistral celebration, i think it could have done really well. its not like this country can't accept SMART media...it just has to be presented correctly.

[EndlessMike]

Aren't there still plans for a comic book version of season 4? I haven't heard anything about it in a while, but I assumed it was still going to happen and that was why Rob Thomas never did anything to wrap up season 4.

Man I kind of wish this hadn't been bumped, it just made me depressed.

[Chancetobe]

Ya'll should appreciate my avatar...now.

[JakeOff946]

Ya'll should appreciate my avatar...now.





*sigh* good episode

[WordzandDreamz]

Bump.

Man I really miss this show. I watched the pilot again the other night. I wish there were more shows on television with the subtle intelligence that this show had.

[JakeOff946]

i feel like watch all eps back to back soon. and getting drunkwhile doing it.

i wonder if it would have made a difference on another network. maybe on fox with a big lead in like american idol. upn and cw didn't have any top 5 shows i'm aware of.

[Clockwork]

In the last two weeks I watched all three seasons of Veronica Mars and I can't believe they just left it like they did. I know I'm late but It's like they just cut out mid-season. What do i do now?

[ThexQuietxCull]

In the last two weeks I watched all three seasons of Veronica Mars and I can't believe they just left it like they did. I know I'm late but It's like they just cut out mid-season. What do i do now?

use the search function

[chokeychicken]

we have a lot of veronica mars fans here; myself especially. there is a huge thread on the show. find it.

[boldt_action]

I just bought Season 1 for 20 bucks, great buy.

[Clockwork]

use the search function
Searched the for "Veronica Mars" in the Entertainment form...

[WakingTheMisery]

I just bought Season 1 for 20 bucks, great buy.

Borders!

I bought it and watched it in 2 days.

[ThexQuietxCull]

Searched the for "Veronica Mars" in the Entertainment form...

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=71215&highlight=Veronica+Mars

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=119101&highlight=Veronica+Mars

took me 5 seconds

[mutualaddiction]

I started watching this show last week and am at about episode 6 of season 3. I like the characters and the PI/mystery plots, but sometimes the writing is predictable and they add unnecessary cliff hangers. Good show all in all though.

[burnsobright]

You cry, that's what you do.

[Jessooker]

I've never watched a single episode of this, but from what I've heard, I'm going to pick the dvd sets up.

[burnsobright]

I've never watched a single episode of this, but from what I've heard, I'm going to pick the dvd sets up.

You won't disappointed, completely worth it.

[Clockwork]

You cry, that's what you do.
THEN what?

[WakingTheMisery]

I just started watching this with my ex again. I absolutely love it.

[Startswithk]

I had a dream last night that i was in an episode of VM.

[burnsobright]

THEN what?

Rewatch seasons 1-3 for the rest of your life.

[chokeychicken]

I've never watched a single episode of this, but from what I've heard, I'm going to pick the dvd sets up.

you need to. it is well worth it.

i keep hoping this show will come back, but i know it wont.

[WakingTheMisery]

Jess, you can watch it with me. I will never turn down a chance to watch it.

[WordzandDreamz]

You wait for Rob Thomas' new pilot that is also going to star Kristen Bell.

[FondestMemory]

I had a dream last night that i was in an episode of VM.

i have a dream every night that i'm in VM.

[Clockwork]

You wait for Rob Thomas' new pilot that is also going to star Kristen Bell.
I'm listening...

[WordzandDreamz]

"Veronica Mars” showrunner Rob Thomas will reunite with star Kristin Bell for ABC’s “Outrageous Fortune” pilot, according to E! TV diva Wanda Two Saints.

Bell will play a member of a family of criminals in the hourlong project, a remake of a New Zealand series. Two Saints says Rene Russo may play the Bell character’s mother, who wants the family to abandon its criminal ways.

[JakeOff946]

I just started watching this with my ex again. I absolutely love it.


good idea? man you really won't turn down a chance to watch this show...

(as you shouldn't)

[WakingTheMisery]

good idea? man you really won't turn down a chance to watch this show...

(as you shouldn't)

She is my best friend and I don't mind the snuggling.

[JakeOff946]

She is my best friend and I don't mind the snuggling.



would you describe it as...logan and veronica or duncan? with a dash of piz

[mutualaddiction]

Just finished season 3 this afternoon, the finale didn't seem like a finale at all, but I did enjoy watching Logan kick piz's ass and that other random guy. And the season 4 promo or whatever it was looked kinda shitty as well, how would they work any of the other characters into that?

[WakingTheMisery]

would you describe it as...logan and veronica or duncan? with a dash of piz

Hahaha... I'd have to say, her relationships are far too screwy for comparison.

[JakeOff946]

Hahaha... I'd have to say, her relationships are far too screwy for comparison.


well played my good man, well played

[golfchick]

I love VM! I was really disappointed with the finale/end of season 3 when I watched it live but I re-watched the entire series and it fitted a lot more. I was not really a fan of Piz the first time but I liked him more the second time around, LOVED all the inside jokes in the finale! (Veronica riding the "space elevator" with Dick, and Wallace seing the wizard, etc).

Awesome, I still haven't bought the DVDs but soon enough.

[buysoap]

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Looks like Wallace decided basketball was lame and it was time to start cheerleading.

[Chancetobe]

Has anyone seen the few minutes of the "4th season" where Veronica is an FBI agent?

[JakeOff946]

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Looks like Wallace decided basketball was lame and it was time to start cheerleading.

hahah nice grab, i wish he was in more movies/tv shows, he made a couple of episodes or VMars for me.

Has anyone seen the few minutes of the "4th season" where Veronica is an FBI agent?


i have its on the season 3 dvd extras and its on you tube i think, (it may have already been posted in this thread actually)

but here is the first part nI8PI8y_-M8&feature=related

it had major potential but i was a little upset with rob thomas decision not to tie up loose ends of the third season in this trailer knowing it had a chance to be picked up. thank goodness him and kristen bell are teaming up on that abc pilot

[Chancetobe]

i have its on the season 3 dvd extras and its on you tube i think, (it may have already been posted in this thread actually)

it had major potential but i was a little upset with rob thomas decision not to tie up loose ends of the third season in this trailer knowing it had a chance to be picked up. thank goodness him and kristen bell are teaming up on that abc pilot
Yeah. I've seen it, thanks. I just wanted to talk about it. It seemed good - although made for a different audience. And I agree about the loose ends - cliffhangers like that kill me. To think that i've devoting so much time to watching 3 seasons of the show, and never know how it ends...

[JakeOff946]

You won't disappointed, completely worth it.



you win best avatar, but i take offense you thinking you loved kristen bell before me...

[JakeOff946]

Yeah. I've seen it, thanks. I just wanted to talk about it. It seemed good - although made for a different audience. And I agree about the loose ends - cliffhangers like that kill me. To think that i've devoting so much time to watching 3 seasons of the show, and never know how it ends...


it upsets me but at the same time i can see how the creators were trying to show that the other seasons were in the past and that this new season was going in a new direction almost making it a completely new show. i would have preferred a new season with her interning over the summer at the fbi and then back to college. but i would have taken anything in season 4. the best thing about veronica mars for me was finding it by accident. my sister asked me to tivo it for her(during season one), and i did and i was bored one night, watched it and was totally hooked.

[Chancetobe]

it upsets me but at the same time i can see how the creators were trying to show that the other seasons were in the past and that this new season was going in a new direction almost making it a completely new show. i would have preferred a new season with her interning over the summer at the fbi and then back to college. but i would have taken anything in season 4. the best thing about veronica mars for me was finding it by accident. my sister asked me to tivo it for her(during season one), and i did and i was bored one night, watched it and was totally hooked.

I think it had more to do with ratings than anything else. My guess is that if Rob Thomas had it his way, he would have continued the show as it was. But, he probably thought it would have a better chance at lasting with the new format.

[burnsobright]

you win best avatar, but i take offense you thinking you loved kristen bell before me...

Well, really that's for all the fucks who think she just appeared out of nowhere and went on Heroes and starred in Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

[FOBcareemo]

I just started watching this with my ex again. I absolutely love it.

Dude! I knew I liked you for a reason.

Me and my ex just started this show tonight


I like it so far. Weird, offbeat but, completely original and really well done

[Clockwork]

I found out about it about three weeks ago. I had no idea what Veronica Mars was about or who was in it; I just heard it was good (mostly from folks in AP). Best thing I ever did was download the pilot, At the same time, it almost feels like the worst thing I've ever done devoting all that time to three seasons and having all these questions.

[boldt_action]

I have recently just bought all the seasons, now to find the time to rewatch all of it...

[chokeychicken]

wait a minute. rob thomas, kristen bell, ABC pilot? somebody give me details.

[boldt_action]

wait a minute. rob thomas, kristen bell, ABC pilot? somebody give me details.
I heard about his ABC pilot, had no clue KB was involved.

[golfchick]

Kristen Bell is on the cover of Cosmo this month! yay! I'm waiting for the DVDs to go down and I'll re-watch the whole thing again, although I have already when they aired the entire season on the "W" network. So brilliant, I wish it was still on!

[Kif]

So I've heard a ton of good things about this show, but I'm still holding off. Over here it's shown on Living TV, which happens to also feature such stellar programming as Will And Grace, Oprah and America's Next Top Model.

Is there anywhere online I can check out the first episode to see what it's like?

[WakingTheMisery]

So I've heard a ton of good things about this show, but I'm still holding off. Over here it's shown on Living TV, which happens to also feature such stellar programming as Will And Grace, Oprah and America's Next Top Model.

Is there anywhere online I can check out the first episode to see what it's like?

I wouldn't start watching it in the middle.

There is a clip on this site. Its the scene that won me over.

http://www.tv.com/veronica-mars/pilot/episode/316571/summary.html

[WordzandDreamz]

wait a minute. rob thomas, kristen bell, ABC pilot? somebody give me details.

I forget the name, but it is a remake of a show from New Zealand about a family of criminals. KBell is set to play the daughter and rumors are saying Susan Surandon as the mom who wants to the family to stop their crime-ridden ways.

[irthesteve]

So I downloaded the first season due to a rec from my roommate. 6 episodes in and enjoying it very much

[takeweakme]

So I downloaded the first season due to a rec from my roommate. 6 episodes in and enjoying it very much

i just started it as well, 3 episodes in!

[irthesteve]

i just started it as well, 3 episodes in!
i'm winning!! haha

[takeweakme]

i'm winning!! haha

you are, i just started it yesterday and watched 3 in a row..i am shooting for another 3 tonight. maybe i will do more and be caught up with you!

[stayillogical]

i just started it as well, 3 episodes in!

i'm winning!! haha

you are, i just started it yesterday and watched 3 in a row..i am shooting for another 3 tonight. maybe i will do more and be caught up with you!

Oh boy, I envy you guys right now. I wish I could wipe my memory clean and watch every episode of this show again. SOOO GOOD. Seriously, prepare to be blown away.

[stayillogical]

Oh and get ready to fall madly in love with Kristen Bell. I'm still obsessed.

[lindZ629]

After I finish my last final tomorrow, I'm going to start watching this. I've only heard good things about it.

[burnsobright]

I haven't watched the seasons all the way through in a few months. I think it's time to start over for the 4th time, haha.

[stayillogical]

Ugh, how exciting. You guys who haven't watched it get to see it all through with no breaks. You won't even feel the angst from the mysteries and cliffhangers.

[irthesteve]

you are, i just started it yesterday and watched 3 in a row..i am shooting for another 3 tonight. maybe i will do more and be caught up with you!
i only watch one every couple days or so, you are gonna pwn me at that rate

[burnsobright]

I love seeing people get into the show, it just warms my black little heart.

[takeweakme]

i only watch one every couple days or so, you are gonna pwn me at that rate

i don't mess when it comes to television.

[WakingTheMisery]

I still need to buy season 3.

[burnsobright]

I still need to buy season 3.
I got it on Amazon for $20 a while ago, it might be back up to it's regular price now.

[irthesteve]

i don't mess when it comes to television.
what a badass...

[stayillogical]

Veronica Mars Cruise, check it out.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/popcandy/2008/05/mars-fans-set-s.html?csp=34

[Kif]

Just checked out the pilot and you were right, this show is awesome. Reminds me of the Buffy days for some reason.

Anyway, they aren't on sale here in the UK so I'm gonna have to import the first season which kind of sucks. But still, can't wait to see the rest of the season.

[stayillogical]

Just checked out the pilot and you were right, this show is awesome. Reminds me of the Buffy days for some reason.

Anyway, they aren't on sale here in the UK so I'm gonna have to import the first season which kind of sucks. But still, can't wait to see the rest of the season.

Congratulations. Seriously, you're now fortunate to have discovered this show and enjoy 3 seasons of greatness.

[JakeOff946]

boy...hannah is just all over tv in that kfc commercial...also Vinny VanLowe is now a gay demon in the show Reaper....pretty decent show and he just adds some goodness to it.

and i am restarting season one right...about....now...

[stayillogical]

boy...hannah is just all over tv in that kfc commercial...also Vinny VanLowe is now a gay demon in the show Reaper....pretty decent show and he just adds some goodness to it.

and i am restarting season one right...about....now...

I first knew Vinny VanLowe as Joey's hot professor on Dawson's Creek. He will always be the hot writing professor.

[boldt_action]

I miss this show so much.


I should really re-watch it.

[Kif]

Just got finished with the last episode, and it kinda sucked. Season 3 was a real downer actually, especially Logan. What the hell happened to him?

Ah well, back to season 1 again haha.

[C.R.U.X]

Why they killed off Cyrus O'dell I'll never know.

This show had a weird talent for producing some awesome supporting characters.

[stayillogical]

I miss the character Dick so much.

[stayillogical]

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[stayillogical]

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[itsbrandonrofl]

was the best show on television...

[itsbrandonrofl]

Just got finished with the last episode, and it kinda sucked. Season 3 was a real downer actually, especially Logan. What the hell happened to him?

Ah well, back to season 1 again haha.
i never really liked logan
i feel that the series finale woulda been a good season finale
i think they did it that way so maybe they would get another season

[itsbrandonrofl]

I miss the character Dick so much.
ya dick was one of the funniest characters on the show
his whole vegas adventure was :lol:

[CatDiesel]

I just finished the series. and wow I didn't expect it to end like that. I put in the 6th disc expecting more episodes. fuck.

[CatDiesel]

boy...hannah is just all over tv in that kfc commercial...also Vinny VanLowe is now a gay demon in the show Reaper....pretty decent show and he just adds some goodness to it.

and i am restarting season one right...about....now...

Ken Marino is awesome on Reaper. He's such a great actor/comedian... you should check out Wet Hot American Summer if you haven't already seen it.

[CatDiesel]

i never really liked logan
i feel that the series finale woulda been a good season finale
i think they did it that way so maybe they would get another season

whaaaaaaaat
Honestly at first I didn't like him, but by the end he was my favorite. Such a good character I think.

[itsbrandonrofl]

whaaaaaaaat
Honestly at first I didn't like him, but by the end he was my favorite. Such a good character I think.
he just came off as an arrogant asshole all the time
sure there were some times when i felt sorry for him (like when he made the rate my ass thing) but still...
i was glad she ended up with piz
although it would have been better if she were single (in the show and real life)

[hardluck]

Ken Marino is awesome on Reaper. He's such a great actor/comedian... you should check out Wet Hot American Summer if you haven't already seen it.

I already love Reaper, but I seriously lost it when he and Michael Ian Block came in. They are (were?) perfection on it.

[Kif]

he just came off as an arrogant asshole all the time
sure there were some times when i felt sorry for him (like when he made the rate my ass thing) but still...
i was glad she ended up with piz
although it would have been better if she were single (in the show and real life)
Piz was a douchebag. Shouldn't have even been in the season if you ask me.

[allhourcymbals]

I've been rewatching this show lately. I miss it and hated the way it ended. I liked Piz too.

[WakingTheMisery]

Started watching season 3. Sooooo good.

[Kif]

He was so pointless though. He spent half the season drooling over Veronica while she was with Logan, and the last few episodes banging her.

Should've brought back the drug dealer kid.

[CatDiesel]

I already love Reaper, but I seriously lost it when he and Michael Ian Block came in. They are (were?) perfection on it.

haha me too

[chokeychicken]

how long should it take for anger surrounding a tv show being taken off the air to go away? because i still miss this show so much and keep hoping i'll read the news one day and it will be back in production.

"i always thought our story was epic, you know. you and me."

[whiteboypain]

when does season 4 come out? if at all..

[hardluck]

how long should it take for anger surrounding a tv show being taken off the air to go away? because i still miss this show so much and keep hoping i'll read the news one day and it will be back in production.

"i always thought our story was epic, you know. you and me."

I've gone through numbness followed by depression.. going to be in the "angry phase" for oh 2 years or so.

[allhourcymbals]

He was so pointless though. He spent half the season drooling over Veronica while she was with Logan, and the last few episodes banging her.

Should've brought back the drug dealer kid.
What drug dealer kid? Weevil?

[stayillogical]

how long should it take for anger surrounding a tv show being taken off the air to go away? because i still miss this show so much and keep hoping i'll read the news one day and it will be back in production.

"i always thought our story was epic, you know. you and me."

This is why I like you Chad.

[Kif]

What drug dealer kid? Weevil?
Nah he was at the start of season 1, came back for an episode in season 2 as well.

[terrycw89]

I still don't see how CW could cancel this show, yet air shows like "Farmer Wants a Wife" or whatever that has called.

[stayillogical]

Nah he was at the start of season 1, came back for an episode in season 2 as well.

Sean? The kid that lied about being rich and was the son of a butler?

I liked when Veronica intimidated him.

[terrycw89]

Sean? The kid that lied about being rich and was the son of a butler?

I liked when Veronica intimidated him.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about Troy.

[Kif]

Yeah Troy's the one. He would've been infinitely cooler than Piz.

And it just occured to me how much I am talking about this show.

[allhourcymbals]

Ohh, I loved Troy. I'd take him over Piz, but I still liked Piz. Especially in the Debasement Tapes haha.

[bloodandwine777]

Well, I really don't know anything about the show. But the girl who plays her is ridiculously hot.

[WakingTheMisery]

when does season 4 come out? if at all..

lolol

[whiteboypain]

lolol

you're worthless.

[WakingTheMisery]

Worthless? The series was not renewed. There is no season 4. Pretty sure that was common knowledge. Guess not.

[stayillogical]

I'm pretty sure he's talking about Troy.

Yeah Troy's the one. He would've been infinitely cooler than Piz.

And it just occured to me how much I am talking about this show.

Oh yeah!! I completely forgot about the drugs thing with Troy. I loved Troy, I only think happy thoughts when it comes to Troy. The first time he talked to Veronica...

Flat?
Just as God made me.

Loved it. AND, the song playing in the background was Hi Lo by Under The Influence Of Giants, which got me into them, hence my username. So technically, if it wasn't for Veronica Mars, I would not be stayillogical. On another note, Veronica Mars always had good music. I heard several bands for the first time through this show. Since they had a low budget for music and Rob Thomas has good taste in music, he took the opportunity to feature good, but lesser known bands.

[WakingTheMisery]

Isn't Troy the main kid from the Animorphs series too?

[stayillogical]

OMG, I just remembered that Michael Cera was on VM. He was even supposed to have a recurring role but it didn't work out...

v7_J9R0EfCA

[WakingTheMisery]

He was pretty funny when he was on there. Just his usual awkward self.

[terrycw89]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Michael Cera was supposed to be the rapist, but the scheduling didn't work out. haha.

[WakingTheMisery]

Paul Rudd has a spot in season 3. Just realizing this now.

[Kif]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Michael Cera was supposed to be the rapist, but the scheduling didn't work out. haha.
Makes sense, he and the rapist had the same job at the college. That would've been weird haha.

[stayillogical]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Michael Cera was supposed to be the rapist, but the scheduling didn't work out. haha.

I suspected that. Thanks for the confirmation.

[whiteboypain]

Worthless? The series was not renewed. There is no season 4. Pretty sure that was common knowledge. Guess not.

Well you could of just told me instead of laughing at me...no need for that.

[WakingTheMisery]

I thought you were kidding. We did mention it on a few pages. There was a teaser on the third season dvds but nothing became of it.

[WakingTheMisery]

Le sigh. I hate the note they ended the show on.

[itsbrandonrofl]

Le sigh. I hate the note they ended the show on.
it would have been a good season finale
i think maybe they did it like that in hopes that the show would get a 4th season