View Full Version : This Band Could Very Well Change Music As We Know It
Frank Giaramita
05/17/05, 11:10 AM
There is a new live video of Anathallo (www.purevolume.com/anathallo) performing a new song titled "Hoodwink" at Tubopopcorn.com (http://www.tubopopcorn.com/videos/hoodwink.html).
mat1419
05/17/05, 11:15 AM
since everything has a label...what the hell do we call this?
robdobi
05/17/05, 11:17 AM
since everything has a label...what the hell do we call this?
anathallo.
this shit is fucking amazing, they almost make it seem effortless.
Frank Giaramita
05/17/05, 11:23 AM
since everything has a label...what the hell do we call this?
I have no idea man. Honestly, some of the parts of their songs are beautiful and so well orchastrated. The only problem with this is, major labels would never ever invest in a band who has as many mixed meters, off timing and weird structures as Anathallo does... they don't even have choruses. It just sucks bc I think if someone really took a chance on them... they'd be around for a VERY VERY long time.
GAD_guy
05/17/05, 11:36 AM
god i love this band.
Mixomatosys
05/17/05, 11:37 AM
I have no idea man. Honestly, some of the parts of their songs are beautiful and so well orchastrated. The only problem with this is, major labels would never ever invest in a band who has as many mixed meters, off timing and weird structures as Anathallo does... they don't even have choruses. It just sucks bc I think if someone really took a chance on them... they'd be around for a VERY VERY long time.
Universal took The Mars Volta, so who knows..
Frank Giaramita
05/17/05, 11:43 AM
Universal took The Mars Volta, so who knows..
but Mars Volta had huge huge hype before the band even wrote a single song. I think if Mars Volta started from scratch, without ATDI ever existing, they wouldn't have been signed major with the amount of money behind them that they have now...hell, their album was shipped Gold initially. Sheer hype is the reason why they got their feet on solid ground, at least in my opinion.
splitsecond
05/17/05, 11:44 AM
Universal took The Mars Volta, so who knows..
Thats exactly what I was going to say.
but Mars Volta had huge huge hype before the band even wrote a single song. I think if Mars Volta started from scratch, without ATDI ever existing, they wouldn't have been signed major with the amount of money behind them that they have now...hell, their album was shipped Gold initially. Sheer hype is the reason why they got their feet on solid ground, at least in my opinion.
Well then Anathallo needs to make some hype.
.circa.survive.
05/17/05, 11:45 AM
ah.this is great .
i love his voice.
is this a new song ? havenīt heard it before
Frank Giaramita
05/17/05, 11:48 AM
Well then Anathallo needs to make some hype.
Anathallo doesnt have former labels, agents managers and projects like ATDI under their belts, like ATDI had, which I feel makes it extremely difficult with a style as unique as them. I think TMV are a once in a generation exception that a major label would make, and Strummer/Universal knew it would sell huge bc of the amount of kids who have been dying for Cedric and Omar after ATDI's extinction.
kissbangkill
05/17/05, 11:50 AM
their live show is something that must be experienced. it's both inspiring and moving. simply beautiful.
they're also the nicest guys ever. them and chiodos stayed at my brothers apartment when they played in lubbock, tx, and it was 13 people crowded into a two bedroom apartment. good times.
GAD_guy
05/17/05, 12:00 PM
I have no idea man. Honestly, some of the parts of their songs are beautiful and so well orchastrated. The only problem with this is, major labels would never ever invest in a band who has as many mixed meters, off timing and weird structures as Anathallo does... they don't even have choruses. It just sucks bc I think if someone really took a chance on them... they'd be around for a VERY VERY long time.
who cares about major labels? i don't understand this whole line of thinking that bands cannot get big without being on a major label. there are lots of examples of bands on indie labels with major label distribution, but even beyond that there are completely independant artists who are big. look at bright eyes, i believe he had the #1 and #2 singles at the same time, all from saddle creek records which is 100% independant. there are countless other bands who have had nearly this much success in a similar situation over the years. true, generally the biggest bands are on major labels, but everyone forgets about the great majority of artists who sign to a major and never really get all that popular. everyone has this misconception that being on a major means you will automatically be huge.
for me, being on a major label means being forced to compromise at least some artistic integrity. you are always going to have that executive bugging you to write that hit single, or even not putting out the record until you do. you are always going to have the pr people saying "you can't say that on record," it's happened to eminem alot of times despite it being in his contract that he can say whatever he wants (not that anthallo would have that problem). this is the beef i have with bands like say, anti-flag, who have said they just signed to a major to get their message out to the masses. conor oberst is having no problem doing this on his own, with appearances on leno, letterman, kilborn, huge record sales, videos on mtv, songs on the readio, etc. anti-flag just didn't want to do the work to get themselves to that level. despite their contract saying they have complete artistic control over their record, i am pretty sure some exec or somebody at that label will influence the albums they put out in some way.
i guess my point is, maybe anathallo will never get the oppurtunity to sign to a major, but i hope that even if they did they would turn it down. if they accepted, it's more than likely that they would have some fat cat telling them they need to write some choruses, ditch the percussionists, write shorter songs, write a hit single, or something else.
i think that if they continue to progress in their wholey original style they will get that chance to really make a difference in music, regardeless of if they are signed to a major label or not. bands who are this different from pretty much everybody else out there are bound to get noticed if they do it well enough and long enough.
Frank Giaramita
05/17/05, 12:07 PM
who cares about major labels? i don't understand this whole line of thinking that bands cannot get big without being on a major label. there are lots of examples of bands on indie labels with major label distribution, but even beyond that there are completely independant artists who are big. look at bright eyes, i believe he had the #1 and #2 singles at the same time, all from saddle creek records which is 100% independant. there are countless other bands who have had nearly this much success in a similar situation over the years. true, generally the biggest bands are on major labels, but everyone forgets about the great majority of artists who sign to a major and never really get all that popular. everyone has this misconception that being on a major means you will automatically be huge.
for me, being on a major label means being forced to compromise at least some artistic integrity. you are always going to have that executive bugging you to write that hit single, or even not putting out the record until you do. you are always going to have the pr people saying "you can't say that on record," it's happened to eminem alot of times despite it being in his contract that he can say whatever he wants (not that anthallo would have that problem). this is the beef i have with bands like say, anti-flag, who have said they just signed to a major to get their message out to the masses. conor oberst is having no problem doing this on his own, with appearances on leno, letterman, kilborn, huge record sales, videos on mtv, songs on the readio, etc. anti-flag just didn't want to to the work to get themselves to that level. despite their contract saying they have complete artistic control over their record, i am pretty sure some exec or somebody at that label will influence the albums they put out in some way.
i guess my point is, maybe anathallo will never get the oppurtunity to sign to a major, but i hope that even if they did they would turn it down. if they did, it's more than likely that they would have some fat cat telling them they need to write some choruses, ditch the percussionists, write shorter songs, write a hit single, or something else.
i think that if they continue to progress in their wholey original style they will get that chance to really make a difference in music, regardeless of if they are signed to a major label or not. bands who are this different from pretty much everybody else out there are bound to get noticed if they do it well enough and long enough.
Honestly, I think Anathallo would be more successful on a major than and independent. One reason being, most of them are married and in mid-late 20's... I see them marketed like Coldplay or Radiohead not like a "scene" Fueled By Ramen/Victory Records type band which mostly appeals to kids in their teens and early 20's. I don't see them marketed like Copeland, or Gatsby's American Dream and I think they have a LASTING sound... which could be around for a very very long time. I can't name one artist who has been around for decades (like The Who, The Rolling Stones, AcDc) who haven't been on a major label. These dudes have the potential to stand the test of time, something VERY few bands these days can do... I just don't see it happening on anywhere other than a major, I see it happening in the vain of Coldplay and Radiohead.
vegasbabyvegas
05/17/05, 12:22 PM
Amazing.
relientcasey
05/17/05, 12:23 PM
i don't think many if any of them are married, but i understand the whole age thing.
i think they'd be marketable in the same way copeland is too.
but other than that i agree with you in saying that their sound is way unique and will definitely last a while.
have you guys heard their hymns that they recorded?
TheWordsmith
05/17/05, 12:23 PM
that was pretty awesome, so inspiring.
Frank Giaramita
05/17/05, 12:33 PM
i don't think many if any of them are married, but i understand the whole age thing.
i think they'd be marketable in the same way copeland is too.
but other than that i agree with you in saying that their sound is way unique and will definitely last a while.
have you guys heard their hymns that they recorded?
It's not even the marriage thing at all , I was just stating that. I think it would be a waste if they were on a label like Militia or FBR or Victory or Tooth and nail... just bc i dont think those labels have the leverage to make something stick around for a very long time. I honestly think these dudes could be absolutely huge, and like I said before... Coldplay or Radiohead huge, no independent labels I know could push a band to that magnitude, and I think it would be a waste of lasting sound.
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I'm pretty sure most of you have seen this video, they extend the intro for a very long time, but just fast forward through it if you want... once the song kicks in... WOW, just...wow.
http://www.michiganvideos.com/Anathallo-AHolidayAtTheSea.mpg
FrancesdaMute
05/17/05, 12:46 PM
whats with all the auxiliary percussion...seems unneccesary but very good stuff.
logantogovcentr
05/17/05, 12:47 PM
thank god that there are people other than me that realize how awesome these guys are. label or not, i hope they continue to make music for a long, long time. granted, i agree in saying that they'd be better suited for a major, just because of their song and their ambience - but all in all, these guys have great talent, strong convictions, and definite staying power.
TaySavesTheDay
05/17/05, 12:52 PM
That video really is moving... the clapping and stomping, that would be so cool to see live. I guess it would only work in a small club like that though. They seem like such an amazing live band. I hope to see them sometime soon.
Also that new songs is really really good--i love their style.
Hilikus
05/17/05, 12:55 PM
This band is amazing
violencexgrace
05/17/05, 01:15 PM
Watching this made my heart hurt. So beautiful.
VeloriumCamper
05/17/05, 02:25 PM
awesome..these guys are awesome
HalfwayJames
05/17/05, 02:37 PM
These guys are amazing.
Fullcollapse3k
05/17/05, 02:40 PM
I'm pretty impressed.
freakishandazed
05/17/05, 02:58 PM
does anyone have a full cd or a bunch of songs they could send me? i only have two.
oldwirehands
05/17/05, 03:21 PM
I would say they're Indie. Fucking incredible Indie.
they should go back on tour with chiodos and by the end of tonight because thats was one of the bestshows i've ever seen.
xThursdayxPTWx
05/17/05, 04:39 PM
I just can't see them being marketed like Radiohead or Coldplay at all, they're way too humble.
As long as they somehow maintain funds to keep making music, I'll be happy.
splatoutofluck
05/17/05, 04:50 PM
amazing these guys are
TheNumberOneFan
05/17/05, 04:56 PM
SO GOOD.. ugghh
i voted for them for Absolutely Unsigned months back--- no one else did-
these guys could be as big as pink floyd someday if they keep it up...
newfoundnorcal
05/17/05, 05:47 PM
I have no idea man. Honestly, some of the parts of their songs are beautiful and so well orchastrated. The only problem with this is, major labels would never ever invest in a band who has as many mixed meters, off timing and weird structures as Anathallo does... they don't even have choruses. It just sucks bc I think if someone really took a chance on them... they'd be around for a VERY VERY long time.
I know what you mean. however, I think anathallo will be around for a VERY VERY long time regardless of it someone takes a chance on them or not. they seem to really play music for the simple fact that it is art, and not for labels or distribution. you are right though, I definitely think they deserve label attention, but I doubt they'll get it...the music is SO unlike anything else out right now.
Frank Giaramita
05/17/05, 06:26 PM
I know what you mean. however, I think anathallo will be around for a VERY VERY long time regardless of it someone takes a chance on them or not. they seem to really play music for the simple fact that it is art, and not for labels or distribution. you are right though, I definitely think they deserve label attention, but I doubt they'll get it...the music is SO unlike anything else out right now.
Andy told me their next album is the band's last effort to reach people and get somewhere. He said it's so hard with some of them being in school, some of them being married and stuff, they are finding less and less time to do the band thing... so this next album is going to be their last shot to make this is along term thing, and if it doesnt work out, that's that. They're all getting older now, and other responsibilities are arising, totally understandable.
Willy F
05/17/05, 06:29 PM
hooray for original music!!
i remember when you recommended these guys to me like 3 months ago frank, between them and TREOS i owe ya big time.
newfoundnorcal
05/17/05, 07:00 PM
Andy told me their next album is the band's last effort to reach people and get somewhere. He said it's so hard with some of them being in school, some of them being married and stuff, they are finding less and less time to do the band thing... so this next album is going to be their last shot to make this is along term thing, and if it doesnt work out, that's that. They're all getting older now, and other responsibilities are arising, totally understandable.
makes sense. consider myself pwned.
bnrocks
05/17/05, 07:16 PM
although these guys write some fairly good music, the live show seems like a second hand production of a broken social scene or arcade fire show.
Frank Giaramita
05/17/05, 07:37 PM
makes sense. consider myself pwned.
Haha, nooo, not at all because I don't know if I exactly believe ANdy when he says that. The band love music and playing and stuff, so I can't imagine them sticking to tehir guns with this being their "last" album, who knows though... I have a strong feeling someone will pick them up. They were in talks with Rory @ The Militia Group for a while back in the day, that didn't work out though.
celebrate ashes
05/17/05, 08:17 PM
wow. i'm an idiot. i'm from michigan. go to shows all the time. and i've never even heard these guys before. i am in love. thank you for opening my eyes/punching me in the stomach to getting me to realize how good they are. totally eargasmic
ThreePagesAway
05/17/05, 09:10 PM
Such a good band that more people should kno about....it gets me angry
newfoundnorcal
05/17/05, 09:12 PM
Haha, nooo, not at all because I don't know if I exactly believe ANdy when he says that. The band love music and playing and stuff, so I can't imagine them sticking to tehir guns with this being their "last" album, who knows though... I have a strong feeling someone will pick them up. They were in talks with Rory @ The Militia Group for a while back in the day, that didn't work out though.
I remember that. well, whatever they decide to do, they are amazing. they definitely need more attention. they defy "rules" and experiment with so many different elements of music- it blows my mind. this band is a great band for anyone who loves music and definitely for those who understand the structure of music and music theory. and to whoever said their show was one that needed to be experienced, I couldn't agree more. you can listen to an album and get a feel, but being in the audience at their show is (for lack of a better word) amazing. I am bewitched by anathallo, no doubt about it.
JOJOFACE
05/17/05, 09:25 PM
Awesome video. I really really want to see these guys live, shake their hands, and tell them how freaking awesome they are.
CrySonic
05/17/05, 09:40 PM
i don't have anything from these guys and after seeing that performance... i want everything. i'm blown away.
JeffPopular
05/17/05, 11:07 PM
amazing these guys are
yes, Yoda! haha I can't wait . . . 24 hours i'll be THERE. . . but on topic, I really really really like these songs. its awesome to see everyone else does to. who cares about record labels or labeling the band themselves, just enjoy the tunes!
DeadVictoryRose
05/18/05, 12:59 AM
Honestly, I think Anathallo would be more successful on a major than and independent. One reason being, most of them are married and in mid-late 20's... I see them marketed like Coldplay or Radiohead not like a "scene" Fueled By Ramen/Victory Records type band which mostly appeals to kids in their teens and early 20's. I don't see them marketed like Copeland, or Gatsby's American Dream and I think they have a LASTING sound... which could be around for a very very long time. I can't name one artist who has been around for decades (like The Who, The Rolling Stones, AcDc) who haven't been on a major label. These dudes have the potential to stand the test of time, something VERY few bands these days can do... I just don't see it happening on anywhere other than a major, I see it happening in the vain of Coldplay and Radiohead.
What about like a sub pop, or something like that, i mean sub pop has staying power, in essence Nirvana is still around today, through other projects and such, and still probably goes gold every few years.
Frank Giaramita
05/18/05, 09:31 AM
What about like a sub pop, or something like that, i mean sub pop has staying power, in essence Nirvana is still around today, through other projects and such, and still probably goes gold every few years.
Yeah, I don't know a lot about Sub-Pop at all, but they do seem to have some serious power.
projectmayhem16
05/18/05, 11:40 AM
Andy told me their next album is the band's last effort to reach people and get somewhere. He said it's so hard with some of them being in school, some of them being married and stuff, they are finding less and less time to do the band thing... so this next album is going to be their last shot to make this is along term thing, and if it doesnt work out, that's that. They're all getting older now, and other responsibilities are arising, totally understandable.well lets all get on the band-wagon and support then.
poppa Q
05/18/05, 03:17 PM
Welcome to my favorite band of the last year, enjoy.
hieverybody
05/21/05, 11:11 AM
although these guys write some fairly good music, the live show seems like a second hand production of a broken social scene or arcade fire show.
i don't know about broken social scene, but anathallo has been around much longer than the arcade fire. i think their first album came out in '01-'02. something around that time. personally i feel that even though the arcade fire is pretty good, they're a watered-down production of an anathallo show. but either way they're both good bands.
vegasbabyvegas
06/23/05, 08:55 AM
I'm hooked.
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