Star Wars or Star Trek

[thursdayx20]

Star Wars or Star Trek or I'm not a geek?

[sleepygrlgreen]

STAR TREK! As Spock would say... live long and prosper.

[thursdayx20]

But Star Trek has like no action or plot...

[sleepygrlgreen]

What?? You're gay.

[thursdayx20]

Haha.... The War of the Geeks....

[sleepygrlgreen]

I bet you didn't know that Trekkie is the only fan termonology in the Oxford Dictionary..OR that the first interracial on screen kiss was aired on the original Star Trek series. It pwns tenfold.

[Trainsaw]

The Wars....awesome

[thursdayx20]

nyahaha :lsvader:

[sleepygrlgreen]

Dumbass? Don't make me go out and find you, lady! Ooooh shit!

[richter915]

it's a tough call. I opted for both

all you star wars kids are sellouts...stop trying to be seth cohen, you just can't be THAT gay.

[Spooky]

But Star Trek has like no action or plot...


That's not true at all..... the TV series doesnt have a movie plot..... cause err.. its not a movie. But the StarTrek movies definatly have plots. The only startrek movie i really liked though was IV where they go back with the whales and all.

so for movies, i'd say Star Wars. But i've got a feeling the new Star Wars tv shows that will eventually come out (one animated, one live action lucas said) arent gonna be too good... so i'm gonna predict StarTrek > Star Wars on the tv end of things.

[sleepygrlgreen]

That's not true at all..... the TV series doesnt have a movie plot..... cause err.. its not a movie. But the StarTrek movies definatly have plots. The only startrek movie i really liked though was IV where they go back with the whales and all.

so for movies, i'd say Star Wars. But i've got a feeling the new Star Wars tv shows that will eventually come out (one animated, one live action lucas said) arent gonna be too good... so i'm gonna predict StarTrek > Star Wars on the tv end of things.
you're my new favorite person.

[richter915]

That's not true at all..... the TV series doesnt have a movie plot..... cause err.. its not a movie. But the StarTrek movies definatly have plots. The only startrek movie i really liked though was IV where they go back with the whales and all.

so for movies, i'd say Star Wars. But i've got a feeling the new Star Wars tv shows that will eventually come out (one animated, one live action lucas said) arent gonna be too good... so i'm gonna predict StarTrek > Star Wars on the tv end of things.
star trek TNG was the shit. Q was my favorite character. It had probably one of the best series finales ever.

[angryandconfusd]

I said both assuming you are talking about the star trek tv series vs. star wars
star wars movies > star trek movies, however

[Blueskyburning]

star wars, no sweat.

[FrancesTheMute]

star wars, no contest.


i can't even sit through an episode of star trek.

[punklet2101]

Yep, Star Wars. Hands down.

[when 4ever ends]

both

i did like that star treck nemisis movie

[marrost]

The old Star Trek was awesome.

[TheDreamIsOver]

Death Star > Starship Enterprise

[SingleDoubt]

i'm not a geek, but star wars > star trek

[ArTkY_]

Star Wars > ***s > Star Trek

[IAmCountryMusic]

Star Wars > ***s > Star Trek
yeah

i hope this thread is a joke

[Emopunkthrice]

star wars, no contest.


i can't even sit through an episode of star trek.
same way.

[richter915]

same way.
star trek isn't meant for retards so it's ok.

[FrancesTheMute]

star trek isn't meant for retards so it's ok.
the guy who wrote the book enders game wrote an article on how star trek fans are some of the most pathetic people on the face of the earth. that's coming from a science fiction/video game writer, so coming from him that's pretty bad.

[Spooky]

they're really different. They're both set in space and have "star" in the name... but otherwise its hard to compare. StarWars is like a big soap opera and StarTrek is like a science magazine. If I HAD to choose, i'd probalby take StarWars cause its more entertaining to me, but i think StarTrek definatly has its merits.

StarWars is more for everyone while StarTrek is for scifi fans....

[AreTwoKay]

Star Wars. I could never get into Star Trek

[FrancesTheMute]

So they've gone and killed "Star Trek." And it's about time.

They tried it before, remember. The network flushed William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy down into the great septic tank of broadcast waste, from which no traveler. . . . No, wait, let's get this right: from which rotting ideas and aging actors return with depressing regularity.

It was the fans who saved "Star Trek" from oblivion. They just wouldn't let go.

This was in the days before VCRs, and way before DVDs. You couldn't go out and buy the boxed set of all three seasons. When a show was canceled, the only way you could see it again was if some local station picked it up in syndication.

A few stations did just that. And the hungry fans called their friends and they watched it faithfully. They memorized the episodes.

And then the madness really got under way.

They started making costumes and wearing pointy ears. They wrote messages in Klingon, they wrote their own stories about the characters, filling in what was left out — including, in one truly specialized subgenre, the "Kirk-Spock" stories in which their relationship was not as platonic and emotionless as the TV show depicted it.

Mostly, though, they wrote and wrote and wrote letters. To the networks. To the production company. To the stars and minor characters and guest stars and grips of the series, inviting them to attend conventions and speak about the events on the series as if they had really happened.

So out of the ashes the series rose again. Here's the question: Why?

The original "Star Trek," created by Gene Roddenberry, was, with a few exceptions, bad in every way that a science-fiction television show could be bad. Nimoy was the only charismatic actor in the cast and, ironically, he played the only character not allowed to register emotion.

This was in the days before series characters were allowed to grow and change.

As science fiction, the series was trapped in the 1930s — a throwback to spaceship adventure stories with little regard for science or deeper ideas. It was sci-fi as seen by Hollywood: all spectacle, no substance.

Which was a shame, because science-fiction writing was incredibly fertile at the time, with writers such as Harlan Ellison and Ursula LeGuin, Robert Silverberg and Larry Niven, Brian W. Aldiss and Michael Moorcock, Ray Bradbury and Isaac Asimov, and Robert A. Heinlein and Arthur C. Clarke creating so many different kinds of excellent science fiction that no one reader could keep track of it all.

Little of this seeped into the original "Star Trek." The later spinoffs were much better performed, but the content continued to be stuck in Roddenberry's rut. So why did it last so long?

Here's what I think: Most people weren't reading all that brilliant science fiction. Most people weren't reading at all. So when they saw "Star Trek," primitive as it was, it was their first glimpse of science fiction.

Now we finally have first-rate science-fiction film and television that are every bit as good as anything in print.

Charlie Kaufman created the two finest science-fiction films of all time so far: "Being John Malkovich" and "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind." Jeffrey Lieber, J.J. Abrams and Damon Lindelof have created "Lost," the finest television science-fiction series of all time . . . so far.

Series such as Joss Whedon's "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and Alfred Gough's and Miles Millar's "Smallville" have raised our expectations of what episodic sci-fi and fantasy ought to be.

Screen sci-fi has finally caught up with written science fiction. We're in college now. High school is over. There's just no need for "Star Trek" anymore.
makes sense...

[adriaan]

i picked star wars. but also not a geek...

[kcgb]

star wars dominates star trek

[richter915]

makes sense...
wait wait wait...eternal sunshine is sci fi? Buffy the vampire and smallville are sci fi? That guy lost all credibility right there.

And how does that make it any better than star wars? Star Wars was the same thing...a soap opera in space. The only reason people can stand it more is that it takes the few good characteristics of a space sci fi and puts it into a few three hour films...even that was too much for many star wars fans in regards to episode one and two. Star Trek TNG is amazing in comparison to most the star trek series' and should def. get some props.

Klingons could totally pwn Wookies.

[kcgb]

wait wait wait...eternal sunshine is sci fi? Buffy the vampire and smallville are sci fi? That guy lost all credibility right there.

And how does that make it any better than star wars? Star Wars was the same thing...a soap opera in space. The only reason people can stand it more is that it takes the few good characteristics of a space sci fi and puts it into a few three hour films...even that was too much for many star wars fans in regards to episode one and two. Star Trek TNG is amazing in comparison to most the star trek series' and should def. get some props.

Klingons could totally pwn Wookies.

they are technically sci fi, just not like good sci fi like star wars is

[IAmCountryMusic]

ive never heard of the second choice

[Spooky]

they are technically sci fi, just not like good sci fi like star wars is

wait.... are you saying they're not good scifi in the sense they're not outerspace, or not good scifi in the sense they're not good movies? Cause Kaufman is probably the best scriptwriter working today. Eternal Sunshine > probably any starwars or startrek in my opinion

[richter915]

wait.... are you saying they're not good scifi in the sense they're not outerspace, or not good scifi in the sense they're not good movies? Cause Kaufman is probably the best scriptwriter working today. Eternal Sunshine > probably any starwars or startrek in my opinion
oh gimme a break...eternal sunshine was such garbage seriously. Ya it's indie therefore it must be amazing whatever ur retarded and just following the trend. I'm not gonna pretend like it's "deep" or anything cause it's not at all. I barely consider Donnie Darko a sci-fi and Donnie Darko was ten times the movie eternal sunshine was (and that's saying a lot).

[FrancesTheMute]

oh gimme a break...eternal sunshine was such garbage seriously. Ya it's indie therefore it must be amazing whatever ur retarded and just following the trend. I'm not gonna pretend like it's "deep" or anything cause it's not at all. I barely consider Donnie Darko a sci-fi and Donnie Darko was ten times the movie eternal sunshine was (and that's saying a lot).
elaborate on how eternal sunshine is garbage, i would like to see your logic.


and donnie darko was garbage compared to eternal sunshine.

[richter915]

elaborate on how eternal sunshine is garbage, i would like to see your logic.


and donnie darko was garbage compared to eternal sunshine.
it was garbage to me. Just the idea of wanting to erase ur memory cause you had a bad girlfriend was absurd. I'm sure you're gonna bring in some like..oh it's imagery or something...but I don't care. There were a couple of good parts but overall I did not enjoy it and I don't see it as a sci-fi.

I think both movies are pretty lame. I just did not enjoy them.

I am looking forward to batman though...not the batmobile.

[FrancesTheMute]

I am looking forward to batman though...not the batmobile.
agreed. at first i didn't like the batmobile, but it makes sense because this is before bruce wayne gor rich and had the money to make all of his stuff *batmobile*

i can see why you wouldn't like though, i've just brought myself to look past it.



i live about 20 minutes from an imax theatre, so i'm seeing it there.

[BrandNew20]

Star Wars.

[richter915]

agreed. at first i didn't like the batmobile, but it makes sense because this is before bruce wayne gor rich and had the money to make all of his stuff *batmobile*

i can see why you wouldn't like though, i've just brought myself to look past it.



i live about 20 minutes from an imax theatre, so i'm seeing it there.
ah touche...this is the young bruce wayne. I'm so excited to see the whole training thing in Japan...sick shit right there. I'm also curious if it's gonna go over how Bruce makes his millions.

[Spooky]

it was garbage to me. Just the idea of wanting to erase ur memory cause you had a bad girlfriend was absurd. I'm sure you're gonna bring in some like..oh it's imagery or something...but I don't care. There were a couple of good parts but overall I did not enjoy it and I don't see it as a sci-fi.

I think both movies are pretty lame. I just did not enjoy them.


its cool if you didn't like it.... but i think if such an idvention existed... people would do it. Not lots of people, but i could definatly see it happening. Like in the movie, it would probalby be an impulse thing people get done. Aside from the script, i think it was shot beautifully... like they did everything with camera angles and such, and almost no special effects. Which is really rare now to not use CGI as a crutch. And i love the ending how they're "you know you're gonna get irrated at me and i'm gonna think you're boring...." "ok."

[btbam > you]

star wars owns the world. the end.

[nicolerork]

Star Wars! I was Darth Vader for four years in a row on Halloween.

[FrancesTheMute]

Star Wars! I was Darth Vader for four years in a row on Halloween.
i could never find a darth vader costume. hopefully i will this year.


if i do, i will wear it everywhere.