hey from the apple store

[when 4ever ends]

haha right now im at the apple store on a mac.. and ap.net looks different

im going to steal this thing. its so cool :love: :love: :love:

[Grybo]

awesome.
stealing is wrong

[Fullcollapse3k]

Next time I get a computer i'm going with a Mac I think.

[when 4ever ends]

this mouse is so cool ... the whole thingis a button

[SuperWoman7700]

I like macs. I have one and someone always gives me negative points when I say that. :(

[apoemtothedead]

I like macs. I have one and someone always gives me negative points when I say that. :(
(takes away scene points)

[gamer123]

haha right now im at the apple store on a mac.. and ap.net looks different

im going to steal this thing. its so cool :love: :love: :love:
FIREFOX > SAFARI

Tell the store clerk that please.

[chaoticXpunk]

I've never really used a Mac before. I've been on one for a couple minutes here and there before, but never actually used one.

[exthuse]

FIREFOX > SAFARI

Tell the store clerk that please.
Yes! I think us two have something against Safari haha. Oh well

haha right now im at the apple store on a mac.. and ap.net looks different

im going to steal this thing. its so cool :love: :love: :love:
It does? Looks like this on mine which is the same anywhere I go on AP.

http://img9.echo.cx/img9/1785/apmac9hu.th.jpg (http://img9.echo.cx/my.php?image=apmac9hu.jpg)

[SuperWoman7700]

just for that you lost some. enjoy! :toff:
grrrr!!!!

My brother gives me shit all the time for having a mac

[exthuse]

grrrr!!!!

My brother gives me shit all the time for having a mac
Jealousy. I get it.

Mac's make you look teh sex. And I do now. If I didn't have a Mac I'd have no pimp cup and bitches

[SuperWoman7700]

Jealousy. I get it.

Mac's make you look teh sex. And I do now. If I didn't have a Mac I'd have no pimp cup and bitches
haha. I agree.

[Web250]

Mac's are pretty good machines, except I hate the one button mouse, and they are ridiculously overpriced.

I build my own custom pcs. I can build four of mine for the same price of 1 mac of equal power.

[Drew Beringer]

I have an Ibook, I love it. :love: but not as much as I love Morgan's new avatar! :love: :love:

[kidinthecorner]

I grew up on a mac, but I can't go back from a PC. I just... don't like it. I don't use my computer enough to be hardcore about it and need some hugely powerful internet surfing shit. I just don't care that much.

I've heard PCs don't even compare for video editing tho. And Mac's have this awesome iTunes drinking game mix thing.

[ThoseAnarchPunx]

I grew up on a mac, but I can't go back from a PC. I just... don't like it. I don't use my computer enough to be hardcore about it and need some hugely powerful internet surfing shit. I just don't care that much.

I've heard PCs don't even compare for video editing tho. And Mac's have this awesome iTunes drinking game mix thing.

Macs are 10 times better than PCs, but its hard to get everyone else to agreee

and yes, PCs dont even compare....the quality of video editing for Final Cut Pro on a Mac is amazing compared to the home video quality of programs like Adobe and Studio.

[AShannon04]

itunes and the ipod are great, but for computers....

pc > mac

I disagree. I've had a mac for a little over a year, and I absolutely love it. I can't imagine going back to a PC anytime soon

[Mercy Medical]

I think if I ever got a Mac I would get an iBook and that's it. I love my desktop PC. :)

[ThoseAnarchPunx]

itunes and the ipod are great, but for computers....

pc > mac

For what? people who have no idea how to use computers?

Windows creates formats for the computer illiterate consumers.

[AShannon04]

And Mac's have this awesome iTunes drinking game mix thing.

whaaaaaat? I'm intrigued...wait, are you talking about the setting where you can edit each song to make it just the first minute to make a power hour mix cd?

[theESCO]

haha right now im at the apple store on a mac.. and ap.net looks different

Hold on, let me get this straight..You leave your house, and still come to here?

wow.

[kidinthecorner]

whaaaaaat? I'm intrigued...wait, are you talking about the setting where you can edit each song to make it just the first minute to make a power hour mix cd?
It edits it for you. It just plays a random minute in the middle of the song somewhere, and it tells you that you have done X number of drinks/minutes, and you have Y left. And you can pick whatever 60 songs you want. I'm not sure where it came from, since I don't have a mac, but google "itunes power hour" or something. Maybe it's on download.com

[Scott Weber]

I have to use a Mac at work...I fucking hate it...they're simply awful computers. They look pretty, sure, but you don't realize what you're missing when you actually have to do WORK on a mac...Safari is a terrible browser, iChat is a very limited program, etc. Making mouses with no right click is a retarded idea as well, you don't realize how much you miss scroll wheels, right click, back click, etc - it's insane. I can't get anything done at work...I just want to alt-tab out of something, I want a task bar, I want tabbed IMs and tabbed internet windows...arrrrrrrghhhh.

Macs are only good if you don't know what the fuck you're doing on a computer. Then they're easier. but if you are like me, and can use a PC even remotely well, then don't bother getting a Mac. Don't let their gorgeous looking exterior and pretty interface fool you.

[AShannon04]

I have to use a Mac at work...I fucking hate it...they're simply awful computers. They look pretty, sure, but you don't realize what you're missing when you actually have to do WORK on a mac...Safari is a terrible browser, iChat is a very limited program, etc. Making mouses with no right click is a retarded idea as well, you don't realize how much you miss scroll wheels, right click, back click, etc - it's insane. I can't get anything done at work...I just want to alt-tab out of something, I want a task bar, I want tabbed IMs and tabbed internet windows...arrrrrrrghhhh.

Macs are only good if you don't know what the fuck you're doing on a computer. Then they're easier. but if you are like me, and can use a PC even remotely well, then don't bother getting a Mac. Don't let their gorgeous looking exterior and pretty interface fool you.

you know, you can buy a normal USB mouse and use it on a mac. that's what I did...then you still have both buttons and a scrollwheel

[Scott Weber]

you know, you can buy a normal USB mouse and use it on a mac. that's what I did...then you still have both buttons and a scrollwheel
I'm aware. Doesn't change the fact that it's still hard as fuck to use. If you care about computing power and capability as all, there's no reason to use a Mac.

[AShannon04]

It edits it for you. It just plays a random minute in the middle of the song somewhere, and it tells you that you have done X number of drinks/minutes, and you have Y left. And you can pick whatever 60 songs you want. I'm not sure where it came from, since I don't have a mac, but google "itunes power hour" or something. Maybe it's on download.com

sweet man, thanks a lot. I was looking for something just like this. It's such a pain in the ass to do it manually for every song, burn it to a cd, then change them back when I want to actually listen to the whole thing.

[TheDreamIsOver]

itunes and the ipod are great, but for computers....

pc > mac

Definetely. I've used a mac a few times and its just not the same.

[richter915]

macs = paris hilton

[TheDreamIsOver]

macs = paris hilton


And Paris Hilton=boner killer.

[xmicandmoshpitx]

I have to use a Mac at work...I fucking hate it...they're simply awful computers. They look pretty, sure, but you don't realize what you're missing when you actually have to do WORK on a mac...Safari is a terrible browser, iChat is a very limited program, etc. Making mouses with no right click is a retarded idea as well, you don't realize how much you miss scroll wheels, right click, back click, etc - it's insane. I can't get anything done at work...I just want to alt-tab out of something, I want a task bar, I want tabbed IMs and tabbed internet windows...arrrrrrrghhhh.

Macs are only good if you don't know what the fuck you're doing on a computer. Then they're easier. but if you are like me, and can use a PC even remotely well, then don't bother getting a Mac. Don't let their gorgeous looking exterior and pretty interface fool you.
exactly. you pretty much took the words out of my mouth.

[djrobg918]

im buying an apple powerbook in a few weeks... i cannot wait.

im so done with pc's.

[punkerz2003]

I've grown up using Macs, so I've always liked Macs better than PCs. I'm sure if my dad had been a PC guy I'd be on a Dell right now. I know most of you PCers out there think Macs suck, but you gotta admit, it's sweet that us Mac users don't ever have to worry about viruses.

[chaoticXpunk]

And Paris Hilton=boner killer.
Amen.

[Scott Weber]

I've grown up using Macs, so I've always liked Macs better than PCs. I'm sure if my dad had been a PC guy I'd be on a Dell right now. I know most of you PCers out there think Macs suck, but you gotta admit, it's sweet that us Mac users don't ever have to worry about viruses.
Right...only idiots get viruses on their PCs anyways. It's also sweet that you can't do jack shit on your mac too, you can't use 90% of all software, you are loyal to that piece of shit program iTunes....anyways..

[exthuse]

I've grown up using Macs, so I've always liked Macs better than PCs. I'm sure if my dad had been a PC guy I'd be on a Dell right now. I know most of you PCers out there think Macs suck, but you gotta admit, it's sweet that us Mac users don't ever have to worry about viruses.
Yep. That's because the Mac community is so much closer and loving towards each other. And some hacker fuck on Windows can't be bothered with making one for Mac, and someone on a Mac wouldn't dream of it.

[Morningstar1011]

I've been on a Mac a few times before. I'm less aquainted with how it works but I'd probably get used to it after awhile. I hear that they run much better than PC's. Eventually I'll probably invest in one. For college or something.

[punkerz2003]

Right...only idiots get viruses on their PCs anyways. It's also sweet that you can't do jack shit on your mac too, you can't use 90% of all software, you are loyal to that piece of shit program iTunes....anyways..
I can do everything that I need/want to do on my computer. And the "there isn't shit for mac software" argument was true a few years ago, but the Mac software market has expanded quite a bit, you can get most stuff that they make for PCs too. And iTunes does everything that I'd want it to do(there are plenty of PC users who use it too).

[SuperWoman7700]

Right...only idiots get viruses on their PCs anyways. It's also sweet that you can't do jack shit on your mac too, you can't use 90% of all software, you are loyal to that piece of shit program iTunes....anyways..
what do you use in place of itunes?

[Scott Weber]

Yep. That's because the Mac community is so much closer and loving towards each other. And some hacker fuck on Windows can't be bothered with making one for Mac, and someone on a Mac wouldn't dream of it.
Mac users are brainwashed and naive. I refuse to join their psuedo-elitist community.

I can do everything that I need/want to do on my computer. And the "there isn't shit for mac software" argument was true a few years ago, but the Mac software market has expanded quite a bit, you can get most stuff that they make for PCs too. And iTunes does everything that I'd want it to do(there are plenty of PC users who use it too).
If you are a gamer like me, macs are worthless. And a lot of other programs don't work on Macs that I use on PC - Trillian, etc. iTunes is so terrible. I will find my previous posts if I have to. Ugh.
what do you use in place of itunes?
winamp 5.0...it does everything iTunes does, but 50 times better and faster...plus it does more.

[exthuse]

I used to use Winamp. When I was on Windows until I thought organizing my music digitally was as important as doing it physically so I got iTunes and managed my music like a whore


winamp 5.0...it does everything iTunes does, but 50 times better and faster...plus it does more.


itunes is shit on windows as speed goes anyway. it's a port from the mac version. its the only thing apple have ever made for windows

[punkerz2003]

If you are a gamer like me, macs are worthless. And a lot of other programs don't work on Macs that I use on PC - Trillian, etc. iTunes is so terrible. I will find my previous posts if I have to. Ugh.
Like I said before, there's a lot more software out there for macs than there used to be, and that includes games. But I don't completely disagree, there still aren't enough games out for mac.

[AreTwoKay]

I am getting a powerbook soon, I can't wait :love:

[SuperWoman7700]

Mac users are brainwashed and naive. I refuse to join their psuedo-elitist community.


If you are a gamer like me, macs are worthless. And a lot of other programs don't work on Macs that I use on PC - Trillian, etc. iTunes is so terrible. I will find my previous posts if I have to. Ugh.

winamp 5.0...it does everything iTunes does, but 50 times better and faster...plus it does more.
I may have said this already but, my brother gives me shit all the time because I use a mac. He's a gamer too so thats why he hates macs.

[Scott Weber]

Ok, so I searched and pulled my overly sarcastic argument against iTunes from another thread. I know some of you may just listen to your library on random, and if that's all you do, more power to you, use iTunes. But that's all it's good for.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I'm iTunes.

Want to add something to your ipod? Oh, shit I can't handle you dragging and dropping an album in here - should I synchronize all 35 gigs of your music collection to your ipod AGAIN?

Want me to take over your media library and reorganize it for you? I won't fix any of your tags, instead you'll now have 5 different folders for one artist! Blink 182, blink-182, Blink-182, blink182, and Blink182! Awesome! Now you can't find any individual songs on your hard drive because I spread them all over the fucking place!

A...playlist?? What's a playlist??? I can't open a playlist and play tracks in the order of the album, I can only add them to the library. You have to manually find them on my media library and play them!

Play...multiple files? askdghsakjlhdasjkhdsad I can't handle that, I can only play things on shuffle, sorry!

I cut off the last 2 seconds of every single song - by default!

I'm a gigantic program that uses way too many system resources for having way less functionality than any other media player out there!

I'm going to run iTunes helper and iPod assistance in the background, even if you don't own an ipod!

I'm incapable of queuing something to play after this current song! You're going to have to create a brand new playlist for it - in iTunes, of course, since I can't handle normal playlists!

Want me to convert your .wma files to mp3? Awesome! Instead of converting them, I'll just make NEW mp3 files and store them discreetly in your iTunes folder, so that when you uninstall the program, all your files are still .wma!

In summary, I'm a complete piece of shit, and anyone that uses me should switch to winamp 5.0 immediately!

[SuperWoman7700]

Ok, so I searched and pulled my overly sarcastic argument against iTunes from another thread. I know some of you may just listen to your library on random, and if that's all you do, more power to you, use iTunes. But that's all it's good for.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I'm iTunes.

Want to add something to your ipod? Oh, shit I can't handle you dragging and dropping an album in here - should I synchronize all 35 gigs of your music collection to your ipod AGAIN?

Want me to take over your media library and reorganize it for you? I won't fix any of your tags, instead you'll now have 5 different folders for one artist! Blink 182, blink-182, Blink-182, blink182, and Blink182! Awesome! Now you can't find any individual songs on your hard drive because I spread them all over the fucking place!

A...playlist?? What's a playlist??? I can't open a playlist and play tracks in the order of the album, I can only add them to the library. You have to manually find them on my media library and play them!

Play...multiple files? askdghsakjlhdasjkhdsad I can't handle that, I can only play things on shuffle, sorry!

I cut off the last 2 seconds of every single song - by default!

I'm a gigantic program that uses way too many system resources for having way less functionality than any other media player out there!

I'm going to run iTunes helper and iPod assistance in the background, even if you don't own an ipod!

I'm incapable of queuing something to play after this current song! You're going to have to create a brand new playlist for it - in iTunes, of course, since I can't handle normal playlists!

Want me to convert your .wma files to mp3? Awesome! Instead of converting them, I'll just make NEW mp3 files and store them discreetly in your iTunes folder, so that when you uninstall the program, all your files are still .wma!

In summary, I'm a complete piece of shit, and anyone that uses me should switch to winamp 5.0 immediately!
hahah. some of that is very true

[kidinthecorner]

You can change just about all of those settings, you know. Don't be TOO biased, now.

[punkerz2003]

Ok, so I searched and pulled my overly sarcastic argument against iTunes from another thread. I know some of you may just listen to your library on random, and if that's all you do, more power to you, use iTunes. But that's all it's good for.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I'm iTunes.

Want to add something to your ipod? Oh, shit I can't handle you dragging and dropping an album in here - should I synchronize all 35 gigs of your music collection to your ipod AGAIN?

Want me to take over your media library and reorganize it for you? I won't fix any of your tags, instead you'll now have 5 different folders for one artist! Blink 182, blink-182, Blink-182, blink182, and Blink182! Awesome! Now you can't find any individual songs on your hard drive because I spread them all over the fucking place!

A...playlist?? What's a playlist??? I can't open a playlist and play tracks in the order of the album, I can only add them to the library. You have to manually find them on my media library and play them!

Play...multiple files? askdghsakjlhdasjkhdsad I can't handle that, I can only play things on shuffle, sorry!

I cut off the last 2 seconds of every single song - by default!

I'm a gigantic program that uses way too many system resources for having way less functionality than any other media player out there!

I'm going to run iTunes helper and iPod assistance in the background, even if you don't own an ipod!

I'm incapable of queuing something to play after this current song! You're going to have to create a brand new playlist for it - in iTunes, of course, since I can't handle normal playlists!

Want me to convert your .wma files to mp3? Awesome! Instead of converting them, I'll just make NEW mp3 files and store them discreetly in your iTunes folder, so that when you uninstall the program, all your files are still .wma!

In summary, I'm a complete piece of shit, and anyone that uses me should switch to winamp 5.0 immediately!
Honestly, I've never had any of those problems. It's probably just the PC version that sucks. But that's what I'd expect, I don't see why Apple would put a lot of time into making a quality program for PCs.

[exthuse]

Ok, so I searched and pulled my overly sarcastic argument against iTunes from another thread. I know some of you may just listen to your library on random, and if that's all you do, more power to you, use iTunes. But that's all it's good for.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I'm iTunes.

Want to add something to your ipod? Oh, shit I can't handle you dragging and dropping an album in here - should I synchronize all 35 gigs of your music collection to your ipod AGAIN?

Want me to take over your media library and reorganize it for you? I won't fix any of your tags, instead you'll now have 5 different folders for one artist! Blink 182, blink-182, Blink-182, blink182, and Blink182! Awesome! Now you can't find any individual songs on your hard drive because I spread them all over the fucking place!

A...playlist?? What's a playlist??? I can't open a playlist and play tracks in the order of the album, I can only add them to the library. You have to manually find them on my media library and play them!

Play...multiple files? askdghsakjlhdasjkhdsad I can't handle that, I can only play things on shuffle, sorry!

I cut off the last 2 seconds of every single song - by default!

I'm a gigantic program that uses way too many system resources for having way less functionality than any other media player out there!

I'm going to run iTunes helper and iPod assistance in the background, even if you don't own an ipod!

I'm incapable of queuing something to play after this current song! You're going to have to create a brand new playlist for it - in iTunes, of course, since I can't handle normal playlists!

Want me to convert your .wma files to mp3? Awesome! Instead of converting them, I'll just make NEW mp3 files and store them discreetly in your iTunes folder, so that when you uninstall the program, all your files are still .wma!

In summary, I'm a complete piece of shit, and anyone that uses me should switch to winamp 5.0 immediately!
I've had none of this happen to me.

[Scott Weber]

You can change just about all of those settings, you know. Don't be TOO biased, now.


Not true, at ALL. you can change a few of those. you still can't queue up songs to play next. you still can't convert songs, just create new ones. It still can't handle different file formats. it still takes up a ton of resources. it still can't handle playlists. you still can't open multiple files at once. you are so gung-ho apple you can't even see how shitty it really is.

Honestly, I've never had any of those problems. It's probably just the PC version that sucks. But that's what I'd expect, I don't see why Apple would put a lot of time into making a quality program for PCs.
That's probably because you are a very simplistic media player person who doesn't want extra features, which is fine. I demand more.

I've had none of this happen to me.
that is ridiculous. that is 100% truth. try doing those things. every single friend i have with an ipod complains about how shitty the syncronization and transfer software is on iTunes.

[kidinthecorner]

You can turn the synch off, and manage manually. It's then all click and drag.
You can turn off the fade timer, or change it to a different length if you want.
All you have to do is change the name, and it puts it in the same folder. Blink-182? Delete the - and its in the same folder as Blink 182 now.
It has playlists? I don't understand your complaint there.
Who cares about queuing songs? That's what playlists are for.
Why do you need multiple files playing at once?
When it converts a file, it creates a whole new file. Then it's there. It never deleted anything I converted when I uninstall itunes.

[Scott Weber]

It has playlists? I don't understand your complaint there.
Who cares about queuing songs? That's what playlists are for.
Why do you need multiple files playing at once?
Ignorance. Typical - no offense. Just because YOU don't use an option, doesn't mean it isn't a serious flaw to a player. Creating playlists are a pain in the ass. If I am sitting down, and I am playing a song, and I think: "Hey, I want to listen to that cartel song after this" I can find it, and queue it to play next. Just with a click. It's ridiculous that iTunes can't do that. I don't want to create an individual playlist every time I want to hear ONE SONG after another. If you can't see that, then wow, dude. You need to just think about other uses besides what you use it for.

As far as multiple files "playing at once," i actually hit my head on my desk when I read that. I mean, cntrl-clicking on maybe...4 different songs on your hard drive, then hitting enter, so voila - they are all loaded up in a playlist, (that doesn't need to be saved to your HD) and they play in order! holy crap what an idea! every single media player in the WORLD can do this besides iTunes. (winamp, WMP, musicmatch, etc...)

A lot of my music comes with a .m3u file in it, that allows you to double click it to play the entire album in order on ANY OTHER MEDIA player. if you try to do that with iTunes, it spazzes out and just loads all the songs onto the library, pauses for about 5 seconds, then stops. No music. No songs playing in order. It can't handle it. Ridiculous.

[kidinthecorner]

It's not difficult to create a playlist at all. Go file new playlist, and drag whatever you want in there. Tough. You can even have one pick out keywords or genres automatically!

I don't even know why I'm defending itunes. Idon't care about it, but you were just overzealous in your attack on it. The ipod updating, the overlap, and other simple things were just nitpicking about default settings, which was my first point.

[Scott Weber]

It's not difficult to create a playlist at all. Go file new playlist, and drag whatever you want in there. Tough. You can even have one pick out keywords or genres automatically!

I don't even know why I'm defending itunes. Idon't care about it, but you were just overzealous in your attack on it. The ipod updating, the overlap, and other simple things were just nitpicking about default settings, which was my first point.
You're overly defending a terrible program. You shouldn't have to "create" a new playlist, yes, it's not that hard to do, but it's a completely unneeded hassle, as well as the 10 other things you told me how to fix. If those things needed to be fixed, why were they like that in the first place? Because apple makes software for brainless sheep who just want their programs to do everything for them. It just doesn't have the capability to do things that every other media player can. Which is why I use winamp. It can do everything iTunes can, it's faster, it uses less resources, and it has a ton MORE features than iTunes.

[kidinthecorner]

And you can queue songs. Just drag it to the party shuffle and put it next.

[Scott Weber]

And you can queue songs. Just drag it to the party shuffle and put it next.
:headshake

keep running back on your heels, man. you still have to drag it in. should be as easy as a click, anywhere in your music folder, not in your iTunes library. Just admit that it suits your needs, but there are better programs out there.

i'm still waiting for somebody to tell me why iTunes is BETTER than winamp, instead of scrambling to find some half-ass excuse for why it's almost as good.

[kidinthecorner]

Because I can put songs from my computer onto my ipod, whcih I carry everywhere. Can winamp do that? Cuz then I'll switch to it.

I don't listen to music nearly as much at my computer than I do everywhere else in my life, so I need it in my hand.

[AreTwoKay]

Because I can put songs from my computer onto my ipod, whcih I carry everywhere.
Ya thats the same reason I switched from Musicmatch to iTunes on my PC because it was just alot easier to put songs on my iPod that way, I know iTunes isn't the best but I have no complaints it suits me just fine

[Scott Weber]

You guys, come on!!!! you don't have to use iTunes for music AND iPod!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh so frustrating to hear this. use another program to listen to music, and when it's time to transfer, use iTunes...or another, better third party software. Musicmatch is what I'm supposed to use to put songs on my Dell DJ, but it's not a good program, so I don't use it to play music in, just to transfer. I actually don't even use Musicmatch at all anymore, I use Dudebox to transfer to my DJ....but besides the point...

[kidinthecorner]

Why the fuck fill up more of my harddrive if I'm going to have iTunes anyway? It works fine, and its there no matter what.

[Scott Weber]

Why the fuck fill up more of my harddrive if I'm going to have iTunes anyway? It works fine, and its there no matter what.
sigh. Winamp takes about the same hard drive space as 1 single mp3. It's obvious that features and having a good media player aren't important to you anyways.

[richter915]

sigh. Winamp takes about the same hard drive space as 1 single mp3. It's obvious that features and having a good media player aren't important to you anyways.
smart man, smart man.

winamp pwnz.

[Trainsaw]

Winamp > All

i've never had a problem w/ this program.

[gamer123]

winamp rocks.

[paen]

i have a mac and i love it.

[kcgb]

macs=awesome ( i have a powerbook, and its amazing)

[dretti]

i have mac and it is probably the sexiest computer ever. and I used itunes and love it. I like it even more than my winamp days

and scottie, all those problems you listed, I have not had problems with any of those.

so,

bitch please