Listen To New Coldplay Album In Full

[Frank Giaramita]

You can listen to the new Coldplay album X&Y in it's entirety at MTV Asia (http://www.mtvasia.com/Video/Feature/20050530000048/index.html). If you're into the songs, be sure to preorder the disc through Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006L16N8/ref%3Dnosim/hollywoodandvine/103-0577717-4117421)... it hits shelves June 7th through Capitol Records.

[poppa Q]

Hahahhaha...

[IcedOpethBlind]

JOYOUS MIRACLE!

k. thanks.

[JunkBondTrader]

omg hell yes

[brothermonk]

be sure to preorder the disc through Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006L16N8/ref%3Dnosim/hollywoodandvine/103-0577717-4117421)

Why should we preorder it from amazon? Is that link just a referral? Cuz if you preorder it at iTunes, I hear you get some extra stuff.

[grimis16]

Thank you for posting...its about god damned time i get to listen to this cd...

[brianthomas7]

beautiful

[Chemical Love]

I just cummed.

[supadupa003]

is it a coincidence that as soon as the vocals started...my nipples got hard? I think not.

[Amplifried]

It's pretty damn good.

[Jason Tate]

God i love this CD. White Shadows is so fucking good.

[supadupa003]

God i love this CD. White Shadows is so fucking good.

that song actually gave me chills

[Manbotisdead]

Asia totally owns for this one.

[coldplayer]

that song actually gave me chills

Yeah Im really digging Fix You , the lyrics are phenomenal. Oh Yeah Asia Sorry about all those things I said about your people in the past. You have totally redeemed yourself with this one

[atownplaya]

Has this leaked?

[jdmedina]

also in mtv latinamerica in the black market (mercado negro) section

http://www.mtvla.com

enjoy

[Total Silence]

wow this cd is amazing. Thanks Frank

[TimeAsIdeology]

Hey you guys want to link me to the new Lifehouse album? Maybe Maroon 5 or John Mayer? Thanks, that'd be terrific!

[supadupa003]

Hey you guys want to link me to the new Lifehouse album? Maybe Maroon 5 or John Mayer? Thanks, that'd be terrific!

someone is way too good for Coldplay...I mean, God, look at his public profile with all his sweet music tastes. This guy seriously makes us all look dumb. I say we all bow to him and his amazing taste for music. (which by the way is based on opinion)

Get over yourself, idiot.

[IcedOpethBlind]

Hey you guys want to link me to the new Lifehouse album? Maybe Maroon 5 or John Mayer? Thanks, that'd be terrific!

no. thanks.

[somebodypunchme]

the last song is beautiful

[Jason Tate]

Hey you guys want to link me to the new Lifehouse album? Maybe Maroon 5 or John Mayer? Thanks, that'd be terrific!
John Mayer has more talent than any band you listen to

[Frank Giaramita]

Hey you guys want to link me to the new Lifehouse album? Maybe Maroon 5 or John Mayer? Thanks, that'd be terrific!

if i had links, id have no problem posting them.

[Cal Smith]

I wonder if Apple has a favorite song off the new album?

[Spaulding44]

so Junes shopping list is looking like Coldplay, finch and foo fighters....anything else???

[VeloriumCamper]

coldplay owns all..sounds awesome, great to go along with parachutes and rush of blood to the head

[quitmyscene]

incredible.

[LewistonSpecial]

I dont mind coldplay, they are cool. The new single sounds exactly like clocks to me though...EXACTLY.

And john mayer is not only hilarious, but an amazing guitarist. I just can't watch him perform because whenever he sings he looks like he's going to yack up a small animal.

The End.

[IcedOpethBlind]

so Junes shopping list is looking like Coldplay, finch and foo fighters....anything else???

plus Dream Theater & Funeral for A Friend...damn...where's the money tree... :|

[Cal Smith]

all these alternative albums coming out makes me want to go and listen to Fuel.

[tambo41187]

John Mayer has more talent than any band you listen to

Completly agree. i think he is one of the most misuderstood artists out there. He is portrayed as only being liked by 13 yr old girls and those are his only fans. Some of the blues stuff he does and how he plays the guitar...awsome.

[TimeAsIdeology]

1) If you suck at being facetious, which you do, (Supadupa) then why bother? The thing about being facetious is that it's supposed be be subtle, and that was about as subtle as Rosanne's waistline.

2) Opeth, It was a sarcastic comment, and coming from somebody who's excited about the new Funeral For A Friend album, you really shouldn't be criticizing.

3) Tate, you can't compare singer/songwriters to entire bands, but if you could, you'd have a hard time convincing me that John Mayer is better than The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Fugazi, Explosions In The Sky, Hot Cross, Rage Against the machine, or plenty of other bands that aren't as well known, I realize I have to keep it somewhat mainstream, because the farther away from Drive-Thru records it is the less you know about it. And as far as just singer songwriters, go ahead and try to tell me that Mayer is better than Bob Dylan, Nick Drake, Neil Young, or John Lennon solo. You're an idiot.

3) I wish you were kidding, Frank, but unfortunately you're not.

[Mitch]

My fucking windows media player doesn't work.

[macius]

1) If you suck at being facetious, which you do, (Supadupa) then why bother? The thing about being facetious is that it's supposed be be subtle, and that was about as subtle as Rosanne's waistline.

2) Opeth, It was a sarcastic comment, and coming from somebody who's excited about the new Funeral For A Friend album, you really shouldn't be criticizing.

3) Tate, you can't compare singer/songwriters to entire bands, but if you could, you'd have a hard time convincing me that John Mayer is better than The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Fugazi, Explosions In The Sky, Hot Cross, Rage Against the machine, or plenty of other bands that aren't as well known, I realize I have to keep it somewhat mainstream, because the farther away from Drive-Thru records it is the less you know about it. And as far as just singer songwriters, go ahead and try to tell me that Mayer is better than Bob Dylan, Nick Drake, Neil Young, or John Lennon solo. You're an idiot.

3) I wish you were kidding, Frank, but unfortunately you're not.
You are my hero.

[Jason Tate]

1) If you suck at being facetious, which you do, (Supadupa) then why bother? The thing about being facetious is that it's supposed be be subtle, and that was about as subtle as Rosanne's waistline.

2) Opeth, It was a sarcastic comment, and coming from somebody who's excited about the new Funeral For A Friend album, you really shouldn't be criticizing.

3) Tate, you can't compare singer/songwriters to entire bands, but if you could, you'd have a hard time convincing me that John Mayer is better than The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Fugazi, Explosions In The Sky, Hot Cross, Rage Against the machine, or plenty of other bands that aren't as well known, I realize I have to keep it somewhat mainstream, because the farther away from Drive-Thru records it is the less you know about it. And as far as just singer songwriters, go ahead and try to tell me that Mayer is better than Bob Dylan, Nick Drake, Neil Young, or John Lennon solo. You're an idiot.

3) I wish you were kidding, Frank, but unfortunately you're not.
From your profile:

Favorite Bands:
Hot Cross, Aurore Rien, Bear Vs. Shark, City Of Caterpillar, Yaphet Kotto, Bob Dylan, Wu-Tang Clan, Dr. Dre, The Holy Mountain, Iron & Wine, Knapsack

I was refering to those. Minus Bob Dylan... but only cause he's a "legend" - I don't personally think he's that talentaed.

I realize I have to keep it somewhat mainstream, because the farther away from Drive-Thru records it is the less you know about it.

Fucking prick.

You are my hero.
low standards?

[weworemasks]

From your profile:

Favorite Bands:
Hot Cross, Aurore Rien, Bear Vs. Shark, City Of Caterpillar, Yaphet Kotto, Bob Dylan, Wu-Tang Clan, Dr. Dre, The Holy Mountain, Iron & Wine, Knapsack

I was refering to those.

john mayer is definately not better than the wu-tang clan.
edit: i like john mayer too.

oh and to the guy who asked about june 7th, motion city soundtrack and punk goes 80s, which i think is one of the best comps/tributes ive heard.

[projectmayhem16]

From your profile:

Favorite Bands:
Hot Cross, Aurore Rien, Bear Vs. Shark, City Of Caterpillar, Yaphet Kotto, Bob Dylan, Wu-Tang Clan, Dr. Dre, The Holy Mountain, Iron & Wine, Knapsack

I was refering to those.



Fucking prick.I still think the majority of those bands are better than John Mayor, especially Bob Dylan, I mean come on. For the record I think this guy is a dick too, just making an observation though.

[IcedOpethBlind]

1) If you suck at being facetious, which you do, (Supadupa) then why bother? The thing about being facetious is that it's supposed be be subtle, and that was about as subtle as Rosanne's waistline.

2) Opeth, It was a sarcastic comment, and coming from somebody who's excited about the new Funeral For A Friend album, you really shouldn't be criticizing.

3) Tate, you can't compare singer/songwriters to entire bands, but if you could, you'd have a hard time convincing me that John Mayer is better than The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Fugazi, Explosions In The Sky, Hot Cross, Rage Against the machine, or plenty of other bands that aren't as well known, I realize I have to keep it somewhat mainstream, because the farther away from Drive-Thru records it is the less you know about it. And as far as just singer songwriters, go ahead and try to tell me that Mayer is better than Bob Dylan, Nick Drake, Neil Young, or John Lennon solo. You're an idiot.

3) I wish you were kidding, Frank, but unfortunately you're not.

it was sarcastic? no shit. gosh. clears everything up.

jk.

but seriously, i like your taste, and the tate comment is funny.

[Jason Tate]

I still think the majority of those bands are better than John Mayor, especially Bob Dylan, I mean come on. For the record I think this guy is a dick too, just making an observation though.
And I think anyone that doesnt see the insane talent in that man, is a fool. song writting, guitar skills.. etc

Its like saying Rob Thomas isn't a fucking AMAZING song writter.

[IcedOpethBlind]

Its like saying Rob Thomas isn't a fucking AMAZING song writter.

oh god. no.

[Jason Tate]

oh god. no.
Exactly my point. Thanks for proving it....

[projectmayhem16]

And I think anyone that doesnt see the insane talent in that man, is a fool. song writting, guitar skills.. etc

Its like saying Rob Thomas isn't a fucking AMAZING song writter.John Mayor is really talented, but he's no Dylan nor will he ever be.

[IcedOpethBlind]

you're welcome. please keep me informed on Spill Canvas. IM DYING to hear even the smallest clippets of their genius!!! OMG!!!

[Jason Tate]

John Mayor is really talented, but he's no Dylan nor will he ever be.
Dylan is over rated. Shitty vocals and decent instrumental work with a tight ass in jeans ... doesn't do it for me.

you're welcome. please keep me informed on Spill Canvas. IM DYING to hear even the smallest clippets of their genius!!! OMG!!!
You're cool.

[IcedOpethBlind]

im not trying to be.

[projectmayhem16]

Dylan is over rated. Shitty vocals and decent instrumental work with a tight ass in jeans ... doesn't do it for me.


You're cool.what about The Boss?

[brianthomas7]

what about The Boss?

You can't F with the boss.

[IcedOpethBlind]

Dylan over Springsteen any day.

[projectmayhem16]

Dylan over Springsteen any day.I love both of them, but my favorite singer/song-writer is Jeff Buckley, he has the best voice ever in my eyes.

[IcedOpethBlind]

yeah. love buckley.

[TaySavesTheDay]

I love both of them, but my favorite singer/song-writer is Jeff Buckley, he has the best voice ever in my eyes.

Jeff Buckley is incredible....

[projectmayhem16]

Jeff Buckley is incredible.if you like The Cure and Jeff Buckley then I like you.

[TaySavesTheDay]

if you like The Cure and Jeff Buckley then I like you.

Thanks sir, I always respected you because you are one of the few forum members who still have integrity. You stood by the finch record when everyone was continuously bashing it. I respect that.

[reav]

Wait, did Tate just say Dylan was overrated?

Uhm. I'm not sure what to think about this.

[tom lascola]

Dylan is over rated. Shitty vocals and decent instrumental work with a tight ass in jeans ... doesn't do it for me.




shitty vocals, and decent instrumental work with a tight ass in girls jeans
...sounds familiar

[projectmayhem16]

Thanks sir, I always respected you because you are one of the few forum members who still have integrity. You stood by the finch record when everyone was continuously bashing it. I respect that.thx a lot, I really appreciate it. :animateds

[Burnout2888]

After saying Rob Thomas is a "fucking AMAZING songwriter," he says Dylan is overrated.

What the fuck? Is that possible to say both of those?

[JTrain12]

and i thought i was the only one who thought Bob Dylan was overrated...although i do a good imitation of his vocals and i do like the song "hurricane"...

[projectmayhem16]

and i thought i was the only one who thought Bob Dylan was overrated...although i do a good imitation of his vocals and i do like the song "hurricane"...well arent you Mr. Positive, judging by your signature you'd make for a good motivational speaker.

After saying Rob Thomas is a "fucking AMAZING songwriter," he says Dylan is overrated.

What the fuck? Is that possible to say both of those?I havent seen you around in awhile, how have you been?

[TimeAsIdeology]

I feel like an idiot for forgetting Jeff Buckley, he's an incredible songwriter as well.

Tate;

Some of your favorite bands are Funeral For A Friend, Hidden In Plain View, and Matchbook Romance, and you have the fucking gall to insult Bob Dylan? I realize musical taste is subjective, but for Christ sake, take your head out of your ass. Bob Dylan is one of the top 5 greatest artists, ever, and you sit there defending John Mayer. That is absolutely pathetic. So he's got some blues background, he's not B.B. King. (Apologies, I forgot he was never on Drive Thru, so I should tell you he's one of, if not the most influential blues musician ever.) You don't think Bob Dylan is talented, well then can you explain why he's been around for 40+ years? Talk to me in another 40, and we'll see how far down the road My Chemical Romance got. For somebody who's got as much pull as you do as far as getting good music to kids ears, you're without a doubt the most musically close minded on your staff. The fact that so many kids develop their tastes from you is one of the reasons shitty labels put out shitty bands in the first place.

I doubt you'll even read all this, seeing as your probably fellating Anthony Green right now, but seriously Tate, open your eyes and realize that more music besides pop punk and pop rock actually exists. I also used to think Dylan was overrated, then I turned 14. And no, that wasn't a joke.

[wakepunk]

I feel like an idiot for forgetting Jeff Buckley, he's an incredible songwriter as well.

Tate;

Some of your favorite bands are Funeral For A Friend, Hidden In Plain View, and Matchbook Romance, and you have the fucking gall to insult Bob Dylan? I realize musical taste is subjective, but for Christ sake, take your head out of your ass. Bob Dylan is one of the top 5 greatest artists, ever, and you sit there defending John Mayer. That is absolutely pathetic. So he's got some blues background, he's not B.B. King. (Apologies, I forgot he was never on Drive Thru, so I should tell you he's one of, if not the most influential blues musician ever.) You don't think Bob Dylan is talented, well then can you explain why he's been around for 40+ years? Talk to me in another 40, and we'll see how far down the road My Chemical Romance got. For somebody who's got as much pull as you do as far as getting good music to kids ears, you're without a doubt the most musically close minded on your staff. The fact that so many kids develop their tastes from you is one of the reasons shitty labels put out shitty bands in the first place.

I doubt you'll even read all this, seeing as your probably fellating Anthony Green right now, but seriously Tate, open your eyes and realize that more music besides pop punk and pop rock actually exists. I also used to think Dylan was overrated, then I turned 14. And no, that wasn't a joke.


God forbid the man has a different opinion than you...

You like Dylan, he doesn't...suck it up and move along. Insulting him based on his tastes in bands and what labels he likes makes you seem so immature, and your arguments are so sophomoric. He may not like Dylan, but at least he's mature enough to not insult you because you do.

[trustno1]

I feel like an idiot for forgetting Jeff Buckley, he's an incredible songwriter as well.

Tate;

Some of your favorite bands are Funeral For A Friend, Hidden In Plain View, and Matchbook Romance, and you have the fucking gall to insult Bob Dylan? I realize musical taste is subjective, but for Christ sake, take your head out of your ass. Bob Dylan is one of the top 5 greatest artists, ever, and you sit there defending John Mayer. That is absolutely pathetic. So he's got some blues background, he's not B.B. King. (Apologies, I forgot he was never on Drive Thru, so I should tell you he's one of, if not the most influential blues musician ever.) You don't think Bob Dylan is talented, well then can you explain why he's been around for 40+ years? Talk to me in another 40, and we'll see how far down the road My Chemical Romance got. For somebody who's got as much pull as you do as far as getting good music to kids ears, you're without a doubt the most musically close minded on your staff. The fact that so many kids develop their tastes from you is one of the reasons shitty labels put out shitty bands in the first place.

I doubt you'll even read all this, seeing as your probably fellating Anthony Green right now, but seriously Tate, open your eyes and realize that more music besides pop punk and pop rock actually exists. I also used to think Dylan was overrated, then I turned 14. And no, that wasn't a joke.


Amen. You have just stated perfectly everything I would have wanted to say to Tate.

[TimeAsIdeology]

No, not liking Dylan and saying he's not talented are completely different issues.

And that's only a small part of the larger issue, which is that he's musically close minded. He always says "my roots are in pop punk, " well fuck, so are some of mine, but I can branch out and listen to other things now. And Tate's, who's what, 4-5 years older has yet to mature in what he listens to? Defend it all you want, it's still pathetic.

[Jason Tate]

Amen. You have just stated perfectly everything I would have wanted to say to Tate.
Well, in that case my response to both of you:

Your life is going to be quite shallow and incomplete once you realize that the world does not, in fact, spin around you. You are not the center of the universe, and there are others equally as credible and right as you are when it comes to expressing their opinions on things. Until you have been named dictator for life over the universe, there are things you can't change and force upon people. Not everyone in the world has the same tastes in food, colors, sex, movies, music, cars, hair styles, clothing, furniture, soft drinks, etc., etc. And there is nothing you can do to ever change that. It's what makes us unique, individual, and allows us to not be a hive minded race with all of the same boring attributes.

1) I hate Circa Survive, so your A.G comment is just fucking lame.
2) Realize more music besides pop-punk and pop-rock exists? I'm the one saying Coldplay, John Mayer, and Rob Thomas aren't bad. I wouldn't categorize them in any of those two categories.

You turned 14, congrats - I'm proud of you - unfortunatly boy, regardless of your age: you still have a lot of growing up to do.

With that said: kindly go fuck yourself.

No, not liking Dylan and saying he's not talented are completely different issues.

And that's only a small part of the larger issue, which is that he's musically close minded. He always says "my roots are in pop punk, " well fuck, so are some of mine, but I can branch out and listen to other things now. And Tate's, who's what, 4-5 years older has yet to mature in what he listens to? Defend it all you want, it's still pathetic.
Eh.. I listen to Chopin, Josh Groban, Buble, The Eagles, The Beach Boys, Simon and Garfunkle, Mozart, Tom Watts, Taylor, Cash, Elton, Joel and all sorts of stuff ... what I have listed in my profile is not even close to my spectrum of musical taste .. I just have what I have listed because this website is not dedicated to everything I listen to - just the majority of what I enjoy on the most regular basis.

Stop stereotyping someone you don't know - based on some words on a website. When you get out of your Freshman year of highschool I hope you gain some perspective.

I doubt your commitment to sparkle motion.

[projectmayhem16]

Jason do you ever get tired of having to defend yourself on here so much?

[Jason Tate]

Jason do you ever get tired of having to defend yourself on here so much?
It's either this or go work on finishing up the Business Dept. website for school .. and at the moment, this is more entertaining and takes less brain power ... so that's what I'm doing while I wait for the mail to arrive ...

[projectmayhem16]

It's either this or go work on finishing up the Business Dept. website for school .. and at the moment, this is more entertaining and takes less brain power ... so that's what I'm doing while I wait for the mail to arrive ...thats cool, I didn't know if it was just annoying or if you thrived off of it, apparently its the latter, and to be honest I enjoy it too. :animateds

[TimeAsIdeology]

You know damn well no Freshman in high school that frequents this site is capable of maintaining a logical arguement. I'm not 14, Tate, I was inferring that a long time ago, I realized how to recognize talent, where as you have obviously yet to pick this skill up. And on the subject of maturity, it's pretty hypocritical of you to end your nice little rebuttal with 'go fuck yourself.'

And it's Tom Waits I'm sure you're referring to, not Tom Watts. Tate you try to act as if you're the utmost in adulthood, that you're wise beyond your years, and above arguing over something as subjective as music, but the very fact that I'm making this post is proof that that's bullshit. Get off your high horse, I'm sure it's lonely from up there.

[Jason Tate]

You know damn well no Freshman in high school that frequents this site is capable of maintaining a logical arguement. I'm not 14, Tate, I was inferring that a long time ago, I realized how to recognize talent, where as you have obviously yet to pick this skill up. And on the subject of maturity, it's pretty hypocritical of you to end your nice little rebuttal with 'go fuck yourself.'

And it's Tom Waits I'm sure you're referring to, not Tom Watts. Tate you try to act as if you're the utmost in adulthood, that you're wise beyond your years, and above arguing over something as subjective as music, but the very fact that I'm making this post is proof that that's bullshit. Get off your high horse, I'm sure it's lonely from up there.
So, you're not going to respond to my points then? .. At least admit you were wrong.

[TimeAsIdeology]

So you don't like Circa Survive, what's left to say about that point? Nothing.

John Mayer is absolutely pop rock. Coldplay and Rob Thomas solo could possibly pass for alternative, but could just as easily be called pop rock. Next time you're so fucking sure of yourself, at least make sure there's no holes in your points.

[Jason Tate]

John Mayer is absolutely pop rock.

Eh... "Pop rock is a genre of music that combines elements of both pop and rock music. Songs are identified by their simple song structure, catchy melodies, and repetition of musical passages.

Some popular pop rock artists include Michelle Branch, Avril Lavigne, Alanis Morisette, and Melissa Etheridge."

I would not put John Mayer completely in that category for a few reasons. Some of the guitar parts that kid plays are beyond anything I even knew you could do with a guitar. I'd call him more pop-folk, or maybe .. maybe pop-rock-blues; however, I find genres and labels demeaning to artists.

Still ignoring my point about opinons? Come on now ...

[projectmayhem16]

what we have here is an asshole and a dick, you guys should be making sweet man love not fighting.

[TaySavesTheDay]

what we have here is an asshole and a dick, you guys should be making sweet man love not fighting.

hahaha its like a good movie *grabs some popcorn and continues to watch the show*

[TimeAsIdeology]

So he's more talented, and has a greater understanding of music than some other pop rock artists, he's still in that category. And he's in no way folk, having an acoustic guitar does not make you a folk artist.

And yeah, everybody knows opinions are subjective about music, what soda you like, and so on, that's not news to anybody. But saying Bob Dylan isn't very talented is not the same as "I don't like Bob Dylans voice," which would be an opinion. I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on things, you don't like Bob Dylan? Cool, but saying he isn't very talented is selling him short, to say the very least.

My overall point in everything that you have a responsibilty, as a person who so many people's opinions are shaped on to educate these kids on a wide variety of music. Sure, your site name is "Absolutepunk," but don't limit yourselves so much. For instance, would Smashing Pumpkins news ever be on this site if punk bands weren't covering their songs? Maybe not even so much posting news about other artists, but as somebody suggested in that post last week, make reccomendations for these kids. Sure, you can reccomend the new MxPx album, but you can also make somebody listen to Billy Joel for the first time, or Fugazi, or Nick Cave, what have you. No site is going to be perfect, and encompass every genre while maintaining grounding with what they started, but you at least owe it to the kids that come to this site looking for something new. Maybe once a week promote a label that you never have, or have one of your staff members write a review for a Smiths album that came out 20 years ago. This isn't my site, and you'll do what you want with it, and rightfully so, but for somebody like myself who got so into music because of the internet, and sites like this one, it can just as easily be done for 1,000 other kids who never would have thought to listen to something out of the ordinary.

[projectmayhem16]

hahaha its like a good movie *grabs some popcorn and continues to watch the show*haha I think they are having a brief intermission or something, it's been quiet for a few minutes, *waits for the one guy to say Yellowcard sucks and Tate to refute* Edit:oh here we go.

[Jason Tate]

So he's more talented, and has a greater understanding of music than some other pop rock artists, he's still in that category. And he's in no way folk, having an acoustic guitar does not make you a folk artist.

And yeah, everybody knows opinions are subjective about music, what soda you like, and so on, that's not news to anybody. But saying Bob Dylan isn't very talented is not the same as "I don't like Bob Dylans voice," which would be an opinion. I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on things, you don't like Bob Dylan? Cool, but saying he isn't very talented is selling him short, to say the very least.

My overall point in everything that you have a responsibilty, as a person who so many people's opinions are shaped on to educate these kids on a wide variety of music. Sure, your site name is "Absolutepunk," but don't limit yourselves so much. For instance, would Smashing Pumpkins news ever be on this site if punk bands weren't covering their songs? Maybe not even so much posting news about other artists, but as somebody suggested in that post last week, make reccomendations for these kids. Sure, you can reccomend the new MxPx album, but you can also make somebody listen to Billy Joel for the first time, or Fugazi, or Nick Cave, what have you. No site is going to be perfect, and encompass every genre while maintaining grounding with what they started, but you at least owe it to the kids that come to this site looking for something new. Maybe once a week promote a label that you never have, or have one of your staff members write a review for a Smiths album that came out 20 years ago. This isn't my site, and you'll do what you want with it, and rightfully so, but for somebody like myself who got so into music because of the internet, and sites like this one, it can just as easily be done for 1,000 other kids who never would have thought to listen to something out of the ordinary.
Let's refresh:

I don't personally think he's that talented.

That's what I said. The operative words in this sentance are: personally think.

Sure, you can reccomend the new MxPx album, but you can also make somebody listen to Billy Joel for the first time, or Fugazi, or Nick Cave, what have you.

The moment we post about any band out of the ordinary, we get assholes like yourself in the threads yelling at us for posting about a band not in "this genre" - for example, this very thread about Coldplay has brought you into it bitching about our news endorsement of a "pop-rock" artist.

You have to decide what you want, us to post about other artists, or not - because you've just called me out to do the very thing you began this argument by making fun of us for doing.

[projectmayhem16]

So he's more talented, and has a greater understanding of music than some other pop rock artists, he's still in that category. And he's in no way folk, having an acoustic guitar does not make you a folk artist.

And yeah, everybody knows opinions are subjective about music, what soda you like, and so on, that's not news to anybody. But saying Bob Dylan isn't very talented is not the same as "I don't like Bob Dylans voice," which would be an opinion. I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on things, you don't like Bob Dylan? Cool, but saying he isn't very talented is selling him short, to say the very least.

My overall point in everything that you have a responsibilty, as a person who so many people's opinions are shaped on to educate these kids on a wide variety of music. Sure, your site name is "Absolutepunk," but don't limit yourselves so much. For instance, would Smashing Pumpkins news ever be on this site if punk bands weren't covering their songs? Maybe not even so much posting news about other artists, but as somebody suggested in that post last week, make reccomendations for these kids. Sure, you can reccomend the new MxPx album, but you can also make somebody listen to Billy Joel for the first time, or Fugazi, or Nick Cave, what have you. No site is going to be perfect, and encompass every genre while maintaining grounding with what they started, but you at least owe it to the kids that come to this site looking for something new. Maybe once a week promote a label that you never have, or have one of your staff members write a review for a Smiths album that came out 20 years ago. This isn't my site, and you'll do what you want with it, and rightfully so, but for somebody like myself who got so into music because of the internet, and sites like this one, it can just as easily be done for 1,000 other kids who never would have thought to listen to something out of the ordinary.this is the only time you will ever hear me defend Jason Tate, so here's one for the books, he does give kids a broader spectrum of music than the conventional pop-punk, emo, etc. Ryan Mills reviews artists on nearly a daily basis, most of which I have never even heard of, he in recent history reviewed an old album by The Boredoms, who I thought I would NEVER see on this site, so do give Tate some credit, he has diversified the site more so than I ever thought it would be.

[onxpoint]

Dylan over Springsteen any day.


Steve Earle over either

this isnt to take away anything from Bruce or Bob by any means... just sayin...

also, this new Coldplay record is currently giving me chills. I liked their first two records, but this is just... wow.

[nottarockstar]

back on topic..

coldplay owns all artists mentioned previously in this thread (minus the beatles). the end.

[Jason Tate]

And he's in no way folk,

His storylines remind me of folk music, the way it was based down orally thoughout history.

[supadupa003]

1) If you suck at being facetious, which you do, (Supadupa) then why bother? The thing about being facetious is that it's supposed be be subtle, and that was about as subtle as Rosanne's waistline.

.

I wasn't trying to be facetious, i was just saying you are an asshole and an idiot, but don't worry you already proved that with each post.

[Flags of Dawn]

what we have here is an asshole and a dick, you guys should be making sweet man love not fighting.
theres 3 kinds of people in life...pussies, dicks, and assholes.....

Just because a artist/band doesnt have the potential to be legendary like someone such as Bob Dylan, it doesnt mean you cant listen to them and still enjoy it. Get off your "whos better" high horses and listen to what you like, who gives a fuck.

[TaySavesTheDay]

haha I think they are having a brief intermission or something, it's been quiet for a few minutes, *waits for the one guy to say Yellowcard sucks and Tate to refute* Edit:oh here we go.

I wonder if we are the only two watching this... because this is much better than studying for finals...
Edit: guess theres a lot more reading this too

And its nice because both of them present a strong argument and are educated. This is better than most of the stupid arugments on this site.

[Jason Tate]

this is the only time you will ever hear me defend Jason Tate

Write this date down folks!

[projectmayhem16]

Write this date down folks!haha, I just hope everyone realizes that I DO respect you.

[mewithcoldplay]

clearly the fighting needs to stop.

and more appreciation for coldplay must be given. this album is incredible, and definitely my favourite release of the year.

[number1alien]

I was refering to those. Minus Bob Dylan... but only cause he's a "legend" - I don't personally think he's that talentaed.

You have got to be shitting me.

Fucking prick.

You're just mad because he's right.

[projectmayhem16]

I wasn't trying to be facetious, i was just saying you are an asshole and an idiot, but don't worry you already proved that with each post.I don't think he's an idiot at all, just because you belittle someone doesn't make it so, the guy made some valid points and presented them in a manner that was intelligant and incisive.

[Jason Tate]

You have got to be shitting me.



You're just mad because he's right.
Reading not working out so well for you? Few pages back .. big whole long post on personal opinion and how it doesn't fucking matter if you think he's God because it's opinion.

[number1alien]

Reading not working out so well for you? Few pages back .. big whole long post on personal opinion and how it doesn't fucking matter if you think he's God because it's opinion.

Oh, I read the entire thread, but thanks for asking. I just find it absolutely incredible that anyone can say such a thing about Bob Dylan.

Oh, and something amusing I found:

Eh.. I listen to Chopin, Josh Groban, Buble, The Eagles, The Beach Boys, Simon and Garfunkle, Mozart, Tom Watts, Taylor, Cash, Elton, Joel and all sorts of stuff ... what I have listed in my profile is not even close to my spectrum of musical taste .. I just have what I have listed because this website is not dedicated to everything I listen to - just the majority of what I enjoy on the most regular basis.

On your Audioscrobbler (slash Last.fm page...because that one is way more detailed), you've listened to songs by those bands, artists, and composers a grand total of zero times. I just got a little smile out of that. Thought it was kind of cute.

Edit: Okay, now, I have no real personal opinion on you, Jason, and I was just going to shrug this off as some pointless little charade, but I'm afraid my opinion of you has just drastically changed. How very mature of you to take away scene points from me and leave a gay porn gallery URL as the comment. I bet you felt real proud about that one!

Gosh, you need to grow up, son.

[Jason Tate]

On your Audioscrobbler (slash Last.fm page...because that one is way more detailed), you've listened to songs by those bands, artists, and composers a grand total of zero times. I just got a little smile out of that. Thought it was kind of cute.

Yah, I also listen to all my music on my IPOD not iTUNES.. I only use itunes when I am playing things for the whole apartment.

I just find it absolutely incredible that anyone can say such a thing about Bob Dylan.

That's too bad. Good thing I can think whatever I want isn't it ... weird concept.



Gosh, you need to grow up, son.
You're 4 years younger than me .. don't call me "son."

[number1alien]

I realize that people listen to music away from their computer. And I wasn't berating you, I was just pointing it out because it amused me. You're allowed to have your opinion on Dylan, so why can't I have mine?

And I'll keep on calling you son until you address why you feel the need to send me links for gay porn. Does it make you sleep better?

[ajustrun22]

everyone put the coldplay album on, open your windows, and relax

lament that 24 is not on this evening

and just forget about message board arguments

[Willy F]

ill be honest. I gave away my copy of parachutes to my bro back in the day because i hated it.

i really like what im hearing though...

[number1alien]

ill be honest. I gave away my copy of parachutes to my bro back in the day because i hated it.

i really like what im hearing though...

Give Parachutes a second chance. I didn't like it (save the singles) back in the day, but it's grown on me lately.

[TimeAsIdeology]

1) Everyone knows who the fuck Coldplay is. You're not doing anyone a service by pointing them out. That's like saying, "hey there's this band called Good Charlotte, maybe some people would like them." I'm not equating them talent wise, but Coldplay has been one of the bigger bands of the past few years, with tons of coverage from various media outlets. We know who they are. I'll throw one out there for you, Tate. The Black Heart Procession, promote them a bit.

2) Mayhem, you're absolutely right about Ryan, and I love his reviews. He brings a ton of music to people that they'd have otherwise never heard, but he doesn't have to be the only one who does that.

3) Who says I only like legendary bands? Look at my profile, look at who Tate pointed out. I hardly think anyone considers Aurore Rien or The Holy Mountain legendary.

4) Thanks for pointing this out to all of us "youngsters," Tate, that age is the detirmining factor in what you're allowed to refer to people as. I guess I better stop calling people who don't eat out of bowls or chase their tails bitches, because clearly saying things figuratively doesn't exist. Everything is literal.

5) Alien, he's not going to respond to the gay porn links, because he's embarrased you called him on it.

[Jason Tate]

1) Everyone knows who the fuck Coldplay is. You're not doing anyone a service by pointing them out. That's like saying, "hey there's this band called Good Charlotte, maybe some people would like them." I'm not equating them talent wise, but Coldplay has been one of the bigger bands of the past few years, with tons of coverage from various media outlets. We know who they are. I'll throw one out there for you, Tate. The Black Heart Procession, promote them a bit.

2) Mayhem, you're absolutely right about Ryan, and I love his reviews. He brings a ton of music to people that they'd have otherwise never heard, but he doesn't have to be the only one who does that.

3) Who says I only like legendary bands? Look at my profile, look at who Tate pointed out. I hardly think anyone considers Aurore Rien or The Holy Mountain legendary.

4) Thanks for pointing this out to all of us "youngsters," Tate, that age is the detirmining factor in what you're allowed to refer to people as. I guess I better stop calling people who don't eat out of bowls or chase their tails bitches, because clearly saying things figuratively doesn't exist. Everything is literal.

5) Alien, he's not going to respond to the gay porn links, because he's embarrased you called him on it.
The famous "I'm going to tell you how you to run your business" argument.

[TimeAsIdeology]

See, this is just a business to you, you asshole. You don't give two fucks about any scene or the kids who support it. And anyway, that's bullshit, it was merely a suggestion. I even said it a few replies back, "I'm not telling you how to run your own site, you'll do things your way, and rightfully so.." and still you respond with this.

Anything to say about items 4 & 5, or are you just going to ignore those?

[Cal Smith]

let me be the first to say gay porn links and bizzarre sex acts links are classic comedy tools for the internet.

[projectmayhem16]

when TimeAsIdealogy was talking about The Black Heart Procession it made me think, there are a lot of bands this site could cover, heres a few:Red Sparowes, Isis, Pelican, Eyes Like Knives, Hella, Decibully, Auditory Aphasia (they get coverage sometimes) Crystal Skulls, Jesu, Melt Banana, The Liars, Lightning Bolt, Cooper Temple Clause, Need New Body, Black Cross, Oxes, Dilute, Deerhoof, Mellodrone, Stars Of The Lid, Into The Moat, Air, Sunn O))), The Holy Shroud, Idiot Pilot, Maida, Fantomas, John Zorn, Mirah, Mice Parade, Don Caballero, The Shins, Sufjan Stevens, etc. and I will gladly submit news about these bands if it will be posted.

[Flags of Dawn]

when TimeAsIdealogy was talking about The Black Heart Procession it made me think, there are a lot of bands this site could cover, heres a few:Red Sparowes, Isis, Pelican, Eyes Like Knives, Hella, Decibully, Auditory Aphasia (they get coverage sometimes) Crystal Skulls, Jesu, Melt Banana, The Liars, Lightning Bolt, Cooper Temple Clause, Need New Body, Black Cross, Oxes, Dilute, Deerhoof, Mellodrone, Stars Of The Lid, Into The Moat, Air, Sunn O))), The Holy Shroud, Idiot Pilot, Maida, Fantomas, John Zorn, Mirah, Mice Parade, Don Caballero, The Shins, Sufjan Stevens, etc. and I will gladly submit news about these bands if it will be posted.
no offense but the site is clogged up with a lot of crappy bands whose posts most people scroll over anyway.

[TimeAsIdeology]

I'd love to see that kind of stuff get covered here. And speaking of John Zorn, everyone should give his project Naked City a listen. Amazing music.

[TaySavesTheDay]

when TimeAsIdealogy was talking about The Black Heart Procession it made me think, there are a lot of bands this site could cover, heres a few:Red Sparowes, Isis, Pelican, Eyes Like Knives, Hella, Decibully, Auditory Aphasia (they get coverage sometimes) Crystal Skulls, Jesu, Melt Banana, The Liars, Lightning Bolt, Cooper Temple Clause, Need New Body, Black Cross, Oxes, Dilute, Deerhoof, Mellodrone, Stars Of The Lid, Into The Moat, Air, Sunn O))), The Holy Shroud, Idiot Pilot, Maida, Fantomas, John Zorn, Mirah, Mice Parade, Don Caballero, The Shins, Sufjan Stevens, etc. and I will gladly submit news about these bands if it will be posted.

I would love to hear some of those bands get coverage... honestly most I havent heard of, but of the ones i have heard of I love. Sufjan Stevens is amazing, so are the Shins... and Auditory Aphasia are really good friends of my girlfriend... they rock. I'd love to hear more bands get some exposure. I actually made that one of my points on the post where Tate asked for suggestions on how to make the site better.

[projectmayhem16]

no offense but the site is clogged up with a lot of crappy bands whose posts most people scroll over anyway.I just hope you arent implying that any of those bands/artists are crappy because they are not.

[Jason Tate]

when TimeAsIdealogy was talking about The Black Heart Procession it made me think, there are a lot of bands this site could cover, heres a few:Red Sparowes, Isis, Pelican, Eyes Like Knives, Hella, Decibully, Auditory Aphasia (they get coverage sometimes) Crystal Skulls, Jesu, Melt Banana, The Liars, Lightning Bolt, Cooper Temple Clause, Need New Body, Black Cross, Oxes, Dilute, Deerhoof, Mellodrone, Stars Of The Lid, Into The Moat, Air, Sunn O))), The Holy Shroud, Idiot Pilot, Maida, Fantomas, John Zorn, Mirah, Mice Parade, Don Caballero, The Shins, Sufjan Stevens, etc. and I will gladly submit news about these bands if it will be posted.
Until we hire someone who listens to those bands - we won't cover them.

See, this is just a business to you, you asshole. You don't give two fucks about any scene or the kids who support it. And anyway, that's bullshit, it was merely a suggestion. I even said it a few replies back, "I'm not telling you how to run your own site, you'll do things your way, and rightfully so.." and still you respond with this.

Anything to say about items 4 & 5, or are you just going to ignore those?
4 is just you being a jackass and 5 is a statement by you, nothing for me to respond to.

[thebestkylever]

im fucking starvin over here. taco bell or wendy's?

[projectmayhem16]

Until we hire someone who listens to those bands - we won't cover them.


4 is just you being a jackass and 5 is a statement by you, nothing for me to respond to.pssh...whatever

[onxpoint]

when TimeAsIdealogy was talking about The Black Heart Procession it made me think, there are a lot of bands this site could cover, heres a few:Red Sparowes, Isis, Pelican, Eyes Like Knives, Hella, Decibully, Auditory Aphasia (they get coverage sometimes) Crystal Skulls, Jesu, Melt Banana, The Liars, Lightning Bolt, Cooper Temple Clause, Need New Body, Black Cross, Oxes, Dilute, Deerhoof, Mellodrone, Stars Of The Lid, Into The Moat, Air, Sunn O))), The Holy Shroud, Idiot Pilot, Maida, Fantomas, John Zorn, Mirah, Mice Parade, Don Caballero, The Shins, Sufjan Stevens, etc. and I will gladly submit news about these bands if it will be posted.

just reading that band list made me want to smoke a shit ton of weed

Sunn O))) hurt my ears for two days after seeing them

[Jason Tate]

pssh...whatever
We post some 50x a day on the bands we cover now, do you really think we have the ability to add more? Especially when we wouldn't be able to cover them in the same way/passion we do with the current list?

Melt Banana

Worst band name ever?

[TimeAsIdeology]

1) Wendy's.

2) Bullshit, bullshit, and more bullshit. I know for a fact Mills listens to some of those bands, fuck, he wrote a review for the last Isis album. And I'm sure some of your staff listens to Black Cross, The Liars, or Sufjan Stevens.

3) This is exactly what I mean about your irresponsibility in the position you're in. Because you, Pat, or Frank don't listen to it, nobody should hear about it? That's idiocy, to put it as nicely as I can. No fucking wonder kids that frequent here barely hear about new music, is because it has to go through your fucking seal of approval. It'd be impossible for you to know everything your staff likes anyway, and not everyone on staff submits news, or deals with it, so what those people like isn't reflected. You're honestly not fit to run a website. Without some of your staff, nobody besides fans of Motion City Soundtrack and The Spill Canvas would visit this site. And dont' tell me that it's impossible to do a site alone, because Aversion is run entirely by one guy, and he gets tons and tons of new music out there.

Get off it Tate, you're a fucking tool. I've tried to intelligently debate this with you, but it's obvious you'd rather bicker like a child. Can't say I'm suprised.

[Cal Smith]

1) Wendy's.

2) Bullshit, bullshit, and more bullshit. I know for a fact Mills listens to some of those bands, fuck, he wrote a review for the last Isis album. And I'm sure some of your staff listens to Black Cross, The Liars, or Sufjan Stevens.

3) This is exactly what I mean about your irresponsibility in the position you're in. Because you, Pat, or Frank don't listen to it, nobody should hear about it? That's idiocy, to put it as nicely as I can. No fucking wonder kids that frequent here barely hear about new music, is because it has to go through your fucking seal of approval. It'd be impossible for you to know everything your staff likes anyway, and not everyone on staff submits news, or deals with it, so what those people like isn't reflected. You're honestly not fit to run a website. Without some of your staff, nobody besides fans of Motion City Soundtrack and The Spill Canvas would visit this site. And dont' tell me that it's impossible to do a site alone, because Aversion is run entirely by one guy, and he gets tons and tons of new music out there.

Get off it Tate, you're a fucking tool. I've tried to intelligently debate this with you, but it's obvious you'd rather bicker like a child. Can't say I'm suprised.

Isn't there a user forum where they can be discussed just as easily?

[Frank Giaramita]

I haven't read all of these posts because I actually have a life outside of the webpage, like petting my cat and cooking mac N cheese, however, I must say... I fucking hate Bob Dylan and I think he is absolutely horrendous. I respect him and what he has done for music, but I honestly can't say I enjoy listening to him in any way. He sounds like a dying fucking animal. Also... if you have a problem with my OPINION, SLOB MY COCK.

[Jason Tate]

1) Wendy's.

2) Bullshit, bullshit, and more bullshit. I know for a fact Mills listens to some of those bands, fuck, he wrote a review for the last Isis album. And I'm sure some of your staff listens to Black Cross, The Liars, or Sufjan Stevens.

3) This is exactly what I mean about your irresponsibility in the position you're in. Because you, Pat, or Frank don't listen to it, nobody should hear about it? That's idiocy, to put it as nicely as I can. No fucking wonder kids that frequent here barely hear about new music, is because it has to go through your fucking seal of approval. It'd be impossible for you to know everything your staff likes anyway, and not everyone on staff submits news, or deals with it, so what those people like isn't reflected. You're honestly not fit to run a website. Without some of your staff, nobody besides fans of Motion City Soundtrack and The Spill Canvas would visit this site. And dont' tell me that it's impossible to do a site alone, because Aversion is run entirely by one guy, and he gets tons and tons of new music out there.

Get off it Tate, you're a fucking tool. I've tried to intelligently debate this with you, but it's obvious you'd rather bicker like a child. Can't say I'm suprised.
#2: It's called the submit news button.

You are just plain stupid. I'm not going to even discuss this with you anymore ... your pure idiocy hurts my head. Back to Coldplay who is better than every band you mentioned in this thread ....

[Frank Giaramita]

1) Everyone knows who the fuck Coldplay is. You're not doing anyone a service by pointing them out. That's like saying, "hey there's this band called Good Charlotte, maybe some people would like them." I'm not equating them talent wise, but Coldplay has been one of the bigger bands of the past few years, with tons of coverage from various media outlets. We know who they are. I'll throw one out there for you, Tate. The Black Heart Procession, promote them a bit.



This is a fucking NEWS DRIVEN WEBSITE. This is not A&Rpunk.net. I feel my job is to inform people about their favorite artists. I do not feel it is in my job description to break bands and labels, but to post about the ones who have ALREADY BROKE THEMSELVES. Imagine if on MTV news, it was like..."Welcome to MTV News, today Local Garage Band posted a new song on their website. Thanks for listening, signing off from MTV news". IT WOULD BE A LAUGHING STOCK. We get over 150 e-mails a day from small bands, labels, etc. and if we were to post about every single one, we'd CRUMBLE. It's impossible to pick and choose... bc if i post about Garage Band #87 then Garage Band #136 will IM me and ask, "Dude, why did you post about that band and not us?" It's a paradox that will not be resolved or figured out. Purevolume.com has their "purePROMOS" section for a reason... so you could go there, click on some of the bands on that list and discover new music. We are a information site, not a "cheap plugs" site... get that through your head.

[Flags of Dawn]

I just hope you arent implying that any of those bands/artists are crappy because they are not.
Ive never heard any of them except the shins, and I know decibully is a local band (milwaukee) but thats about it, so I cant really say anything about them, but adding more posts on obscure bands is something this site could do without in my opinion.

[TimeAsIdeology]

You very clearly stated that you wouldn't post it if your staff didn't listen to it, and also stated you cover enough bands, you don't have room for any more, yet now you're saying you'll post it as long as the person submits it? Which is it Tate?

And as usual, you can't address any of the points I made. You can call me an idiot all you want, just like I can say you're intelligent all I want, and neither will be true. You're 20 something years old, and in all honesty you act remarkably similar to my little brother. Who happens to be in 8th grade. Congratulations, you're in excellent company.

And Frank, you're about as intelligent as Tate. Bands like Isis, The Liars, and The Shins are far bigger than half the bands you post on, so don't give me that bullshit. These aren't fucking garage bands, and you're not MTV, just about every one of, if not all those bands has a major label deal. So posting about Isis tour dates is not giving a cheap plug. You're missing the point entirely. And you do plug small bands, that's what the fuck the staff reccomendations are. I didn't think it was possible for somebody to be as dense as Tate, congratulations on doing what he couldn't, proving me wrong.

[Jason Tate]

adding more posts on obscure bands is something this site could do without in my opinion.

exactly.

You very clearly stated that you wouldn't post it if your staff didn't listen to it, and also stated you cover enough bands, you don't have room for any more, yet now you're saying you'll post it as long as the person submits it? Which is it Tate?

And as usual, you can't address any of the points I made. You can call me an idiot all you want, just like I can say you're intelligent all I want, and neither will be true. You're 20 something years old, and in all honesty you act remarkably similar to my little brother. Who happens to be in 8th grade. Congratulations, you're in excellent company.
I am done running in circles... with you. Common sense missed a fetus apparently.

I simply stated there is a button for you to submit news - so there is no reason you can't submit news - and if we feel it should be posted, it will .. if we don't - feel free to go to the recommendations section and post all the fuck you want, OR create your own website www.pretentiousnomainstreampenismus ic.com

[Frank Giaramita]

You very clearly stated that you wouldn't post it if your staff didn't listen to it, and also stated you cover enough bands, you don't have room for any more, yet now you're saying you'll post it as long as the person submits it? Which is it Tate?

And as usual, you can't address any of the points I made. You can call me an idiot all you want, just like I can say you're intelligent all I want, and neither will be true. You're 20 something years old, and in all honesty you act remarkably similar to my little brother. Who happens to be in 8th grade. Congratulations, you're in excellent company.

This is an excellent company thanks to the dedicated users who contribute to this forum every day... like YOU! Thanks TimeAsIdeology!

[Willy F]

Worst band name ever?


no that would have to go to "the suicide pact"

or "everytime i die"...or "anal cunt"......id rather listen to a band named melt banana anyday :thumbsup:

[Jason Tate]

no that would have to go to "the suicide pact"

or "everytime i die"...or "anal cunt"......id rather listen to a band named melt banana anyday :thumbsup:
HAhaha.. classic.

Anyways, back to my Rob Thomas and Coldplay ... both really good.

Suckas.

[TimeAsIdeology]

That was quite clever Tate, really, proud day for you and your family. And as I've already said, more than a few times, my tastes run the gamut from obscure ambient shit people have never heard of, to Buddy Holly and The Beatles. I'm not showing favorites to any band because people haven't heard of them, that's not what musics about.

But you lost sight of that a long, long time ago.

[Frank Giaramita]

That was quite clever Tate, really, proud day for you and your family. And as I've already said, more than a few times, my tastes run the gamut from obscure ambient shit people have never heard of, to Buddy Holly and The Beatles. I'm not showing favorites to any band because people haven't heard of them, that's not what musics about.

But you lost sight of that a long, long time ago.

Dude, like I said before, if you saw the amount of emails the staff collectively get from unsigned and unheard bands... you'd say to yourself.."okay.. it's impossible to post about all of these, I understand why they'd ont pick and choose now, it would be bias". I'd LOVE to help out the smaller bands and company's but it's literally impossible without getting shit from another little band or company when I do. It's just the way it is.

[Jason Tate]

That was quite clever Tate, really, proud day for you and your family. And as I've already said, more than a few times, my tastes run the gamut from obscure ambient shit people have never heard of, to Buddy Holly and The Beatles. I'm not showing favorites to any band because people haven't heard of them, that's not what musics about.

But you lost sight of that a long, long time ago.
So ... now you're saying we don't post enough about un-heard of bands? And have been losing sight of "haven't heard of them" bands. Lemme scan the main page:

Daphne Loves Derby
The Cheap Suits
The Know How
Anias
The Blackout Pact
Fell Far Behind
Clann Zú
Love as Laughter


Now, what were you saying?

ps. It's obvious your favorites depend on the popularity of the artist NOW days, that's what was apparent from your first post making fun of us for posting about Coldplay.

[TaySavesTheDay]

Dude, like I said before, if you saw the amount of emails the staff collectively get from unsigned and unheard bands... you'd say to yourself.."okay.. it's impossible to post about all of these, I understand why they'd ont pick and choose now, it would be bias". I'd LOVE to help out the smaller bands and company's but it's literally impossible without getting shit from another little band or company when I do. It's just the way it is.

I wanted to say that I dont think that every small unsigned unheard of band should be put on here.

My main suggestion would be to put a few more genres of bands. Like a little more indie tastes (not that genres really say anything anymore). I love Ryan's reviews and they have introduced me to a few new bands.

I also love all the posts you guys do make, i think the staff here is great... their music tastes are probably the closest to mine of any site i have seen. But I am always looking for new music so maybe hiring one more person with different tastes than all of you would be something to look into. But then you get the problem that every readers will want one more staff member to post their favorite genre. and its just more posts to get through for the reader. I guess its a hard balance to find--but i think you guys have found a great one so far.

[TimeAsIdeology]

Once again, the main points I made were conveniently scanned right over, but fine, you want to nitpick? I'll nitpick.

Those bands all fucking sound alike. Minus Love And Laughter and Clann Zu. It's all essentially pop punk, ( or "emo," as you'd call it ) that'd fit beautifully on a bill with Senses Fail and Hidden In Plain View. I'm sick of making the same arguements a third, fourth, and fifth time only to have you avoid them. It's quite clear how thick your head is.

So go ahead and call me an idiot Tate, and fail at making some more jokes at my expense, and get some easily manipulated 15 year olds to back your points, but you know as well as I do, you're a fraud.

[burn with power]

well it leaked if anyone wanted to know.

[Frank Giaramita]

Once again, the main points I made were conveniently scanned right over, but fine, you want to nitpick? I'll nitpick.

Those bands all fucking sound alike. Minus Love And Laughter and Clann Zu. It's all essentially pop punk, ( or "emo," as you'd call it ) that'd fit beautifully on a bill with Senses Fail and Hidden In Plain View. I'm sick of making the same arguements a third, fourth, and fifth time only to have you avoid them. It's quite clear how thick your head is.

So go ahead and call me an idiot Tate, and fail at making some more jokes at my expense, and get some easily manipulated 15 year olds to back your points, but you know as well as I do, you're a fraud.

Bottom line... the main page speaks for itself, so shut up and come to terms with the fact you were wrong, and still are. Stop trying, you lost. End of story.

[Jason Tate]

Once again, the main points I made were conveniently scanned right over, but fine, you want to nitpick? I'll nitpick.

Those bands all fucking sound alike. Minus Love And Laughter and Clann Zu. It's all essentially pop punk, ( or "emo," as you'd call it ) that'd fit beautifully on a bill with Senses Fail and Hidden In Plain View. I'm sick of making the same arguements a third, fourth, and fifth time only to have you avoid them. It's quite clear how thick your head is.

So go ahead and call me an idiot Tate, and fail at making some more jokes at my expense, and get some easily manipulated 15 year olds to back your points, but you know as well as I do, you're a fraud.
Pick one I scanned over.

And ... you've been constantly http://images.google.com/images?q=owned&hl=en all day.

[falloutncambria]

didnt bother to read all these posts but i saw tate say tghat john mayer and rob thomas are better than dylan. thats a shame. but i guess its to be expected from a guy who is over 20 that still listens to punk/emo extensively

[TimeAsIdeology]

Frank, you're an idiot, and every word you type affirms it, stop trying to impress Tate.

And Tate, I don't feel like going back over every single point again, but here's one for you: You, Jason Tate, founder of this very website, only promote bands you listen to, and you only listen to two types of music. Clear enough for you? Crystal, I hope. You can go on about how you listen to Chopin, or "Tom Watts," it doesn't make it true. Christ, you can't even get the mans last name right. And I know you don't listen to him just by the fact that if you hate Bob Dylans voice, there is no way in fuck you could listen to Tom Waits.

Whenever you think you've adequately made a fool of yourself, you can go ahead and admit that I am in fact supreme ruler of all that the world knows. Or Chuck Norris for short, whichever you prefer.

[Frank Giaramita]

Frank, you're an idiot, and every word you type affirms it, stop trying to impress Tate.

Impress Tate? I personally don't give a flying fucking shit what Tate thinks of me to be honest, nor do I have any reason to impress him or anybody else. Your idiocy is MUCH too hard to ignore and you have yet to prove one valid point over anybody in this thread. LOOK AT THE MAIN PAGE FOR YOURSELF DIP SHIT. YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT AND THE MAIN PAGE ALONE KILLS ANY ARGUMENT YOU HAVE PRESENTED...NOBODY SHOULD EVEN HAVE TO SAY A WORD... SEE FOR YOURSELF! Period.

P.s.--- I suggest you shut the fuck up and spare yourself from even more embarrassment.

[JunkBondTrader]

I doubt your commitment to sparkle motion.

disagree about the whole bob dylan not talented ordeal but i love the "donnie darko" reference

i just wanted to say that i think ideology's point was lost in the confusion.......tate you did the exact same thing that he did a few pages earlier so both of you are actually hypocrits

tate said that anyone who fails to see the talen in john mayer is an idiot, yet Ideology said the same thing about bob dylan (who IMHO is on of the greatest songwriters of all time) and tate is lecturing him......both of you are fucking hypocrites so stop acting so innocent and grow the fuck up both of ya.

[TimeAsIdeology]

Hahaha man did I touch a nerve. Aww, somebody getting a bit heated over a message board arguement? Cute. If nobody should have to say anything, any real reason you keep responding?

What's kind of funny though, is you guys don't refute any of my claims, just ignore them. Such as Tate only liking two kinds of music, he doesn't have anything to prove otherwise, so he steps around the issue. Just like he took about 4 different stances on covering new music, or new labels. And just as I was talking about covering some different styles, or bands not normally covered, you went off on some tangent about unsigned bands emailing you. That wasn't the issue, ever.

So maybe you should just calm down a bit there buddy. For most of us, life beyond the internet does exist. If that's not the case for you, which it doesn't appear to be, you have my pity, because a sad, sad life it is. So sleep well tonight knowing you accomplished nothing, and got pissed off at some kid you don't know on the internet. Good work.

[projectmayhem16]

I will submit news on those bands and I'm sure Jared will post as much as he can, but for the record Ryan does listen to a lot of those bands, I know it's hard as it is somedays with all the news but then again some days the news is REALLY slow, so I think it could balance itself out. I mean honestly start checking out which bands people actually care about and deciding who deserves coverage, when I see a bands post get 0 replies I think it's a waste of space but I don't know I'm just throwing ideas out there to help the site out in any way that I can. Mostly I would just like a site that encompasses a lot of music and I think by doing so you would gain integrity and grow in numbers. Hope I helped a little, I'm not trying to tell you how to run things though.

[TimeAsIdeology]

If there was a lot more people like the kid above me here, and a lot less people like Tate, this site would be a ton better.

[Jason Tate]

didnt bother to read all these posts but i saw tate say tghat john mayer and rob thomas are better than dylan. thats a shame. but i guess its to be expected from a guy who is over 20 that still listens to punk/emo extensively
i never said that. quite obvious u didnt read.

If there was a lot more people like the kid above me here, and a lot less people like Tate, this site would be a ton better.
There would be no website if there wasn't me..genius.

only two types of music? god you are fucking stupid.

[dubbo]

Zella Core Asian Style ? WTF http://www.punkinyaface.com

[alignxthexstars]

Reading through all that has saved me ten minutes of work

plus i've never really given Coldplay the time of day

[LeftWideOpen]

granted, i find the majority of the bands on this site to be pretty terrible ..but some of my favorites (saves the day, days away, treos etc.) are covered extensively, and i know this site is probably my best source for information about those bands. thats why i visit this site ..why the hell do all you people who argue about the content visit? you seem far too concerned about a simple website that doesnt even provide any useful information to you, supposedly.