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Chris Fallon
12/16/08, 02:39 AM
The All-American Rejects - When the World Comes Down
Record Label: Interscope
Release Date: December 16, 2008
Allow me to preface this review by stating that I like pop music. Sure, my tastes seem to point more in the “orgcore” direction, however, my affiliation with the pop music world has been a long, memorable relationship (hell, I even admit to once liking British pop band BBMak). Getting over the speed bumps of Metro Stations and Boys who Like Girls has been daunting, believe me. But, in the end, looking back on all the hooks and the joy popular music has given me is well-worth all the obstacles lazy musicians attempting to thwart my enjoyment put in front of me.
One thing pop music can - and does - give to the masses is more than just an upbeat hook with a catchy chorus to hum in the shower (or, if you’re like me, bubble baths with candles & incense) - it’s appeal and emotion. Appeal, as in accessibility and, yes, emotion – listen to anything done by the Beatles, Beach Boys or Simon & Garfunkel. There is emotion there, and it’s a shame radio-tailored pop music written by drones has overshadowed the once-classic style.
After premiering at the height of the Warped Tour Pop Extravaganza (as it should be renamed), The All-American Rejects came out with a bang, their eponymous debut giving new life to keyboards and overproduced organics (who knew acoustic guitars could sound so delectable!). Remember “Swing Swing” and “The Last Song”? Bold and ambitious, yet simple enough for the purpose of accessibility, the band was marvelous at giving heart-on-sleeve teenagers songs to bop their heads to while learning to drive (hopefully they listened to the music after they got their license – safety first!).
2005’s Move Along was even better, adding some edge to their pop-friendly sound. “Night Drive” and “Change Your Mind” were mainstream enough to be in video games & department store ads, yet they still provided a solid dose of powerpop the world had not truly seen in years. Given the competition they had for “bands most likely to be featured on the Laguna Beach soundtrack,” you could have done a whole lot worse… and frankly, still could.
Nearly three years later, the band’s third release, When The World Comes Down, makes an attempt at continuing to carry that heavy burden of being a creative pop outfit in a Jeffree Starr-induced world. Sounds easy enough, however it simply comes off as trite and half-hearted; if you can get bored & anxious listening to a four-minute pop tune, the execution is simply flawed. The production value by Eric Valentine (Good Charlotte, Taking Back Sunday) is lacking the “oomph” Howard Benson gave their last album, and the essential points I mentioned earlier (appeal and emotion) are all but words on paper.
First single “Gives You Hell” is a keyboard-laced snoozer without any genuine hook or imagination, and “Breakin’” sounds like a Jonas Brothers or Metro Station b-side ("Yeah, I figured it out / Breakin's what the heart is for"). “Believe” and the standard ballad “Another Heart Calls” reek of lack of effort, both uninspired and repetitive (particularly “Believe”); "Another Heart Calls" conversational-style is more obnoxious than effective. The band seems too concerned with writing prom themes over riding that wave they found on their sophomore album. The ballads on that album had a spark to them, while here they are bland retreads.
That isn’t to say the album doesn’t have its share of bright spots: “Damn Girl” may sound like the title of Akon’s next chart-topper, but it actually contains a rapid-fire chorus while “Fallin’ Apart” starts out like an ELO classic before breaking into a “Come On Eileen”-style barn-burner. “Real World” is the album’s heaviest cut, and it’s a shame it has to be sandwiched in-between two forgettable slow numbers. The band doesn’t provide enough moments where each member can shine, with Tyson Ritter’s vocals sounding much more high-pitched and nasally than ever. Nick Wheeler & Mike Kennerty are never given the opportunity to showcase their improved guitar skills, and Ritter’s bass blends in with the production so it’s virtually unheard (the record sounds rather filtered). The efficiency that drummer Chris Gaylor displayed during Move Along is also taken away here, with Valentine’s production focused on synthesizers & orchestrations over any real cohesive songwriting and exhibition.
The lyrics are another huge handicap for the All-American Rejects; for a band in their 20’s, it’s simply embarrassing to hear Ritter belt out the emo-soaked tripe you can hear every young pop band sing any day of the week (“I wanna touch you / You wanna touch me, too” or “Look out the window at the sky that doesn’t care”). Whatever grand pop scheme the band tossed out the window for this, they’re better off regaining that momentum and not living up to their name.
Powerpop (minus the power); Simple Plan's self-titled album; Good Charlotte's Good Morning Revival; disappointment."Fallin' Apart," "Real World" and "Damn Girl"
1. I Wanna
2. Fallin' Apart
3. Damn Girl
4. Gives You Hell
5. Mona Lisa (When the World Comes Down)
6. Breakin'
7. Another Heart Calls (ft. The Pierces)
8. Real World
9. Back To Me
10. Believe
11. The Wind Blows
12. SunshineTyson Ritter: vocals/bass
Nick Wheeler: lead guitar/vocals
Mike Kennerty: guitar
Chris Gaylor: drums
Official Site (http://www.allamericanrejects.com) | Official Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/allamericanrejects)Amazon MP3 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NBO0AG?ie=UTF8&tag=absolutepun02-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001NBO0AG)
HelpMeSleep
12/16/08, 02:49 AM
haha. that was what I thought when I saw that there was a song called Damn Girl. and I thought wtf and expected it to be ridiculous, but it was actually one of my favorites.
I'm not totally agreeing with you in some parts, but overall you're right. Their other efforts were SO much better and Valentine has made this enjotable pop band one that can barely be listened to.
anamericangod
12/16/08, 05:07 AM
Recommended if you like disappointment, lol. Good review, I agree with the rating.
EchoPark
12/16/08, 05:10 AM
Chris you were very generous in your 51%.
I was more thinking this would've gotten a 20-30 from you.
im still picking this up, but damn this review doesn't make me very excited about it...
Chris Fallon
12/16/08, 05:15 AM
Chris you were very generous in your 51%.
I was more thinking this would've gotten a 20-30 from you.
Haha, after I was through scoring it, I was surprised too!
I think because there are 4 songs I genuinely like, I'm willing to spare it from too harsh a score, like I did with PWT -- I didn't like any song on that record.
DI Pistola
12/16/08, 05:30 AM
These guys need a "AAR Hasn't Been Good Since _______" t-shirt.
I miss the Swing Swing days.
Agreed almost 100%. (I do like Gives You Hell.)
Also, by far the most entertaining review Ive read in a while.
loveisdead
12/16/08, 06:22 AM
Great review, you're a hell of a writer.
ghsNICK!
12/16/08, 06:34 AM
Wow, I think this album is better than what you gave it. there about 3-4 good singles on here. And isn't that all you really need for a successful album?
3 and a half outta 5 stars for me!
Blakebear
12/16/08, 06:34 AM
Album is just way too slow.
I found that with four or five songs left I was wishing the album was over so I could listen to Folie a Deux instead.
MusicTalks
12/16/08, 06:40 AM
I much prefer your writing/review style over Tony's. I only mention this because of the album review and album releases from today. I can actually visualize the music as you describe it. Tony's review lacked enough description to make the review memorable. I've totally forgotten about what he said. Granted, I did purchase FOB's record and will not purchase AAR's, but your review gave it a shot, even if it was a snowball in hell.
rckstr29
12/16/08, 06:57 AM
Wow this is a grisly review. Any time you get 2 metro station references and the sin that is Jeffree Star is even mentioned in a review, that's a bad sign. Never has 51% sounded so low.
Wow this is a grisly review. Any time you get 2 metro station references and the sin that is Jeffree Star is even mentioned in a review, that's a bad sign. Never has 51% sounded so low.
haha thats such a good point.
MusicTalks
12/16/08, 07:08 AM
Wow this is a grisly review. Any time you get 2 metro station references and the sin that is Jeffree Star is even mentioned in a review, that's a bad sign. Never has 51% sounded so low.
haha thats such a good point.
Says so much about how terrible this album is, I guess.
timba88
12/16/08, 07:24 AM
"I Wanna" is terrible. Simply put. Sets the tone for a letdown album.
roisterboy
12/16/08, 07:25 AM
Great review! Thanks for saving me money! I don't even want to buy this album now!
TSTLSOOM
12/16/08, 07:29 AM
seeing this review changed my mind about them selling 150k. i think. but the contest is for FOB. I am glad someone aggrees with me that Real World is about one of the best songs on the album.
ManicanParty49
12/16/08, 07:33 AM
Hmm, it took me a couple listens, but I enjoy it now. It's definitely not their strongest album, but I'd give it high 60's low 70's personally. To me, it just sounds like AAR doing what they've always done, and trying not to follow everyone else, like some bands seem to be doing (Simple Plan, Good Charlotte).
To each his own though.
thesaddestfilm
12/16/08, 07:36 AM
Wow, I think this album is better than what you gave it. there about 3-4 good singles on here. And isn't that all you really need for a successful album?
3 and a half outta 5 stars for me!
-.-
Phil507
12/16/08, 07:48 AM
So I don't really listen to the Jonas Brothers but I gotta say, there are way too many put-downs of them on this site (and it's pointless since they're such an easy target). That being said, they can still run circles around All Time Low, Boys Like Girls, We The Kings, etc. in terms of songwriting.
denissuxx
12/16/08, 07:57 AM
I think you guys are being a bit unfair!
It grows on you - I would rate it 74%
MusicTalks
12/16/08, 08:00 AM
If someone has the album, I will listen to it, but I won't go out and purchase it first. There are only a few bands that warrant a straight purchase before hearing the album. Fall Out Boy was one of them. AAR is certainly not. Anyone wanna let me listen to it tho? I joke.
The Personist
12/16/08, 08:03 AM
Too slow an album, though I might've rated it a bit higher. Good review, though.
*crying stars*
12/16/08, 08:05 AM
Good review, Chris.
The recommendations all seem appropriate; I was hoping that they wouldn't have lost whatever edge they had, but I was wrong.
refgirl23
12/16/08, 08:08 AM
Even if I don't agree with your reviews, they always do read well and are well written.
Given that, "Damn Girl" is probably my favorite. "I Wanna" reminds me of a Forever the Sickest Kids song. And the production is just meh. The entire album is just hit or miss overall.
aoftbsten
12/16/08, 08:24 AM
Wow, I think this album is better than what you gave it. there about 3-4 good singles on here. And isn't that all you really need for a successful album?
3 and a half outta 5 stars for me!
3-4 singles is all you need for a successful album, but not necessarily a good album
Short-Lived
12/16/08, 08:28 AM
This album is dreadful. I couldn't even make it all the way through it.
Matt's Garage
12/16/08, 08:42 AM
Dang, I've absolutely loved every bit of the album I've heard so far. I wasn't much of a fan of Move Along. The stuff I heard reminded me a lot of the S/T. I'm kind of nervous to buy it now. At least it's only 2.99 at Amazon.
piaffeprncess98
12/16/08, 08:51 AM
I actually really like "Another Heart Calls". That track stands above the rest for me. Who are The Pierces? I like the female voice.
Blake Solomon
12/16/08, 08:59 AM
hmm, for 2.99 it might be too hard to pass this up.
The Marc
12/16/08, 09:09 AM
First of all, to say that "Give You Hell" lacks a hook is absurd. Second of all, what was Eric Valentine thinking?
xashkox
12/16/08, 09:15 AM
excellent review; now i know not to check this album out. and i love the "recommended if" section :)
sidewacker
12/16/08, 09:52 AM
Wow, I agree 100% with the person who said you write well, your lead paragraph is great. But to the point, I do agree that this album is pretty weak. I enjoyed almost all tracks on Move Along, but only a few stand out in this album. Bring back Howard Benson.
MorningStar10
12/16/08, 10:11 AM
Agreed almost 100%. (I do like Gives You Hell.)
Also, by far the most entertaining review Ive read in a while.
after first read of this, i thought you meant album deserved 100%, i was about to give YOU hell ha
Good review, agreed with bulk of it but BB mack, seriously man? ha
EvilZeppelin
12/16/08, 10:16 AM
I actually thought his album was better then FOB's new one...
TheSkyline
12/16/08, 10:16 AM
Extremely disappointing. All of their music before this was great, but this is so.. mediocre. Good review though.
TheSkyline
12/16/08, 10:17 AM
I actually thought his album was better then FOB's new one...
That's impossible. FAD is literally 1,000 times better than this...
"I Wanna" is terrible. Simply put. Sets the tone for a letdown album.
It's not terrible, but it is a big letdown compared to their past album starters, 'My Paper Heart, and 'Dirty Little Secret'.
So I don't really listen to the Jonas Brothers but I gotta say, there are way too many put-downs of them on this site (and it's pointless since they're such an easy target). That being said, they can still run circles around All Time Low, Boys Like Girls, We The Kings, etc. in terms of songwriting.
The Jonas Brothers deserve crap. They can't write songs, and hardly write anything decent at all. Most of their stuff is written for them. Their success comes from Disney and covers they've done, not earned success like other bands have to get.
Very well written review. It is power pop without the power sadly...I was a huge fan of Move Along and their self-titled and so far I'm dissapointed but its still pretty good. Worth the money.
hockeyguitar99
12/16/08, 10:30 AM
I enjoy "Give You Hell" but I previewed the rest of the album on iTunes, and it was straight up boring. I may pick this up on Amazon, but I'll most likely just forget about it. My pop fix will be filled with Folie A Deux anyway.
jackSHIT
12/16/08, 10:39 AM
i'll still get this.
i didn't mind Gives You Hell that much really..
The first 2 tracks are a dissapiontment, but after that, the album is quite good. Overall, I'd give it 75ish.
Also, is it just me or everytime I rate an album why does it NEVER load...?
zomg, i hope they give you hell
FatJordan
12/16/08, 10:52 AM
What's "orgcore"?
sell the sunris
12/16/08, 10:54 AM
Eh, completely disagree with this review. I think it's somewhat inconsistent, sure, but I don't think it was as hyperbolically (probably not even a word) bad as it was made out to be.
But it's all opinion.
WhoSaidThat?
12/16/08, 11:02 AM
Nice review, Chris. I currently don't agree with you, but I'll listen to this a little more. Funny thing, I enjoyed SP's self-titled. Again, stellar review, dude.
klawansie7
12/16/08, 11:09 AM
i really don't think this album lives up to its potential, like you said, but i think you missed out on "mona lisa" - i think that track is awesome, the only reason worth listening to the album at all...
Uwe Blab
12/16/08, 11:39 AM
I heard the early version of "Real World" on Madden '09 and thought it was good. Haven't listened to anything else on the album but that and the single. I'm almost afraid to now.
makeasound
12/16/08, 11:40 AM
I agree with this review 100%. This record felt very phoned in to me.
Bonus points from me for the BBMak reference, I still spin their second album on a frequent basis.
tommy's ghost
12/16/08, 11:41 AM
Totally expected.
CarouselBoy
12/16/08, 11:47 AM
good review. Wish someone would have done the killers the same (dis)service even if it was a low score
Alextisonfire
12/16/08, 11:49 AM
I enjoyed a few tracks but most of this was filler to me.
tommy's ghost
12/16/08, 12:03 PM
That's impossible. FAD is literally 1,000 times better than this...
Yep. I prefer any song off Folie than this whole album. Such a disappointment...
owiseone35
12/16/08, 12:05 PM
Bad album don't buy. My little brother loves this album and everytime he plays it i wanna shoot him.
LongDistanceDrunk
12/16/08, 12:15 PM
This is straight up Doo Doo Butter. The R.Kelly flavor of course.
jtyexists9
12/16/08, 12:21 PM
These guys "jumped the shark" with their first album.
Drew Beringer
12/16/08, 12:23 PM
This album is atrocious. which sucks, I really like their first two releases.
growingfungus
12/16/08, 12:41 PM
ive listened through twice, and i like it...if you want a catchy album, pick this up...i like it better than their last album...
Poochemist
12/16/08, 12:44 PM
Great review. I have no interest in listening to this album, especially after how well you've characterized it.
PopPunkKid
12/16/08, 01:10 PM
I personally don't think this was a bad album at all.
Nothing wrong with some good, harmless power-pop. I'll agree "I Wanna" is probably the lamest track AAR have ever written lyrically (although the music/melody kind of reminded me of Cheap Trick and I like that), and there's definetly a few throwaway tracks on here, but overall I wasn't disappointed. Probably would give it a 6.5 or so.
Like someone else said, this is still way above bullcrap like Metro Station, Boys Like Girls, We The Kings, The Maine, The Friday Night Boys *cringe*, etc.
wroteurname
12/16/08, 01:12 PM
haha. that was what I thought when I saw that there was a song called Damn Girl. and I thought wtf and expected it to be ridiculous, but it was actually one of my favorites.
Dayuummmmmm girl
I'm glad I ignored this review and got this album. I'm loving it. It's got those good hooks and melodies I've come to expect from the Rejects. Good cd. Catchy as hell.
Holly HoX!
12/16/08, 01:25 PM
what a travesty...let's go back to '01. too bad, guys.
These guys need a "AAR Hasn't Been Good Since _______" t-shirt.
I miss the Swing Swing days.
haha I agree, i think i'm going to blast their S/T all day and pretend like its the old days...
Chris Fallon
12/16/08, 02:07 PM
Thanks for the respectful comments everyone -- even if you don't see eye to eye with me, I hope you at least enjoy the read. Have a great holidays, AP Faithful!
WhoSaidThat?
12/16/08, 02:13 PM
Thanks for the respectful comments everyone -- even if you don't see eye to eye with me, I hope you at least enjoy the read. Have a great holidays, AP Faithful!
No problem, Chris. You're always good for a swell read.
thiswokendream
12/16/08, 02:16 PM
AAR have experienced fortune and fame. Now that they have that I feel they don't have the drive anymore. It feels like the label told them they needed to write an album so they forced out whatever they could. Very big let down, but on the plus side it makes FOB's new album look even better. lol.
Shrillex
12/16/08, 02:22 PM
they used to be good
demondays524
12/16/08, 02:24 PM
I'm not surprised at the low rating. "Gives You Hell" isn't that great of a song.
thiswokendream
12/16/08, 02:29 PM
I'm not surprised at the low rating. "Gives You Hell" isn't that great of a song.
I think "Gives You Hell" is the perfect radio single for everyone. All different kinds of people with different musical tastes can get into it. Its a harmless upbeat pop song. My mom likes it for fuck sake and thats alright with me. haha.
Ryzenfall
12/16/08, 02:30 PM
Too bad. I'll take the choice cuts though.
I'm not surprised at the low rating. "Gives You Hell" isn't that great of a song.
It's actually a great song. I'm a big AAR fan and I didn't particularly like it after a few listens. It took me a while, but it is ridiculously catchy. The album is pretty good and quite catchy. It's not a masterpiece like their first 2 albums, but its still good stuff.
radxbandit
12/16/08, 02:38 PM
ehhh bit let down but mona lisa was pretty good
totheendmcr04
12/16/08, 02:52 PM
i'm enormously disappointed with this album. AAR has been so great in the past, their unique and fun to watch... i donno.. this album just seemed so overproduced, which was the exact opposite of what i expected/hoped for. they used to be pop punkish. but now its straight up pop, and not even good pop.
i couldn't deal with the album after listening to the first half (ha i switched back to folie a deux)... i'll end up giving the rest of the album a listen, but right now i just can't stomach it....
let's hope for a speedy recovery with a 4th album soon!
........
myhearturhands
12/16/08, 03:03 PM
i like mona lisa a lot.
Phil507
12/16/08, 03:06 PM
It's not terrible, but it is a big letdown compared to their past album starters, 'My Paper Heart, and 'Dirty Little Secret'.
The Jonas Brothers deserve crap. They can't write songs, and hardly write anything decent at all. Most of their stuff is written for them. Their success comes from Disney and covers they've done, not earned success like other bands have to get.
Very well written review. It is power pop without the power sadly...I was a huge fan of Move Along and their self-titled and so far I'm dissapointed but its still pretty good. Worth the money.
Give them some time to age and they'll probably become what Hanson is now. A traditional guitar power-pop band with a core fan-base that tours around and plays theatres. Plus they will STILL be more bearable than most of the annoying pop-core bands (All Time Low, We The Kings, etc.)
blinkme
12/16/08, 03:10 PM
i love this album. i won't defend the rating at all but i'm a sucker for some decent pop. incredibly catchy stuff.
Hmm, it took me a couple listens, but I enjoy it now. It's definitely not their strongest album, but I'd give it high 60's low 70's personally. To me, it just sounds like AAR doing what they've always done, and trying not to follow everyone else, like some bands seem to be doing (Simple Plan, Good Charlotte).
To each his own though.
Agreed.
ericsounds41
12/16/08, 03:31 PM
Definitely don't agree with the review.. love this album..
Gives You Hell, Real World, and Mona Lisa were the only real standout tracks for me, which is a shame since they all leaked in one way or another before I heard the entire album. So no good surprises really.
I think the score should be a bit higher, but not too much. Some sort of 60. Good review though.
I like their previous stuff better, this seemed like a weak release. I mean yeah, it's a pop album, but I think they could've done a lot more with the album. There are a handful of catchy tunes though, I just wish they were more creative musically with this one.
xtheaudition
12/16/08, 03:50 PM
i like the cd alot!
tommy413
12/16/08, 03:51 PM
Great CD don't agree at all
I agree 100%.
I'd probably give it 40-something if I were to review it.
Really disappointing and a large leap backwards from the last album. And I think the main reason I would give it that is because of the lasting value, like you noted in your score. There's nothing really memorable about the album whatsoever.
billyboatkid
12/16/08, 04:54 PM
Haven't been able to check it out yet.
I'll throw it on later tonight.
SeanEBoy2686
12/16/08, 05:05 PM
"recommended if you like: disappointent"
good thing I happen to LOVE disappointment
I'm hoping this is AAR's equivalent of Yellowcard's "Lights and Sounds" for me... not that good but with a few standout tracks and enough to hold me over until a great recovery album.
Chris Fallon
12/16/08, 05:33 PM
"recommended if you like: disappointent"
good thing I happen to LOVE disappointment
I'm hoping this is AAR's equivalent of Yellowcard's "Lights and Sounds" for me... not that good but with a few standout tracks and enough to hold me over until a great recovery album.
Now that you mention it, it could very well be seen like that album. I've never been one to hate Lights and Sounds, but it did has a lack of creative momentum. Some songs just didn't have any imagination or fervor to them, like on previous efforts.
I think that sums up this disc pretty well. It comes too late in the year to be placed on any "best of" lists, but will be long forgotten at the end of 2009. I don't hate the album by any means, it just lacks any genuine effort or cohesiveness.
bifforama1
12/16/08, 06:18 PM
He he...
Recommended if you like disappointment, Good Mourning Revival, or Simple Plan. I think the only album missing is Big, Bad World!
Chris Fallon
12/16/08, 06:28 PM
He he...
Recommended if you like disappointment, Good Mourning Revival, or Simple Plan. I think the only album missing is Big, Bad World!
Hahaha well, it's not that bad :-d
SeanEBoy2686
12/16/08, 07:16 PM
Now that you mention it, it could very well be seen like that album. I've never been one to hate Lights and Sounds, but it did has a lack of creative momentum. Some songs just didn't have any imagination or fervor to them, like on previous efforts.
I think that sums up this disc pretty well. It comes too late in the year to be placed on any "best of" lists, but will be long forgotten at the end of 2009. I don't hate the album by any means, it just lacks any genuine effort or cohesiveness.
exactly... which is why it might best be compared to YC's 'Lights & Sounds'. i'm glad someone else sees what i'm getting at.
mellzie14
12/16/08, 07:19 PM
i'm knew that 2.99 on amazon would be wasted...
HelpMeSleep
12/16/08, 08:20 PM
Dayuummmmmm girl
;-) yo boy you ballinnnn.
every time i listen to the beginning of "damn girl" i find myself singing "get it faster" by jimmy eat world
Blake Solomon
12/16/08, 08:44 PM
gotta say, I really, really like "Another Heart Calls." It's huge and I think that they accomplished exactly what they wanted to with it. Female vox sound great on it (Who's singing, anyone know?)
Some really good songs on this, I think. They'll at least get a few singles out of this thing. Hopefully "Another Heart Calls" is the next one they choose.
invincibleXL
12/16/08, 08:44 PM
Smooth review, although it makes it seem that the album is worse than it really is. The great thing about 'Move Along' was that it had it's standout tracks, like 'stab my back', but this album is sort of one that needs to grow on you before you can fully appreciate it. I was expecting so much more from these guys. It's gotten better after a few listens, but the replay value on this one isn't looking too good
We'll see.
wroteurname
12/16/08, 08:58 PM
;-) yo boy you ballinnnn.
LOL!
gotta say, I really, really like "Another Heart Calls." It's huge and I think that they accomplished exactly what they wanted to with it. Female vox sound great on it (Who's singing, anyone know?)
Some really good songs on this, I think. They'll at least get a few singles out of this thing. Hopefully "Another Heart Calls" is the next one they choose.
It's one or both of the girls from the Pierces http://www.myspace.com/thepierces
And yeah Another Heart Calls sounds great. I was just listening to it when you wrote that and thinking that people need to hear this song.
Damn Girl and Back To Me are some other stand out tracks imo.
HelpMeSleep
12/16/08, 09:07 PM
LOL!
:slutkiss:
HelpMeSleep
12/16/08, 09:08 PM
gotta say, I really, really like "Another Heart Calls." It's huge and I think that they accomplished exactly what they wanted to with it. Female vox sound great on it (Who's singing, anyone know?)
Some really good songs on this, I think. They'll at least get a few singles out of this thing. Hopefully "Another Heart Calls" is the next one they choose.
I was wondering the same thing. I really wanna know.
outrageouslyAL
12/16/08, 10:11 PM
chris, would you feel the same way if this was their first album??... just wondering.
outrageouslyAL
12/16/08, 10:17 PM
I was wondering the same thing. I really wanna know.
gotta say, I really, really like "Another Heart Calls." It's huge and I think that they accomplished exactly what they wanted to with it. Female vox sound great on it (Who's singing, anyone know?)
Some really good songs on this, I think. They'll at least get a few singles out of this thing. Hopefully "Another Heart Calls" is the next one they choose.
in the track by track tyson says who they are.. the pierce sisters... maybe.. he is kinda mumbling.
but i guess they just asked them to do it and they did. but there are two of them, sisters.
Chris Fallon
12/16/08, 10:32 PM
gotta say, I really, really like "Another Heart Calls." It's huge and I think that they accomplished exactly what they wanted to with it. Female vox sound great on it (Who's singing, anyone know?)
Some really good songs on this, I think. They'll at least get a few singles out of this thing. Hopefully "Another Heart Calls" is the next one they choose.
Seeing that you enjoyed The Maine and FTSK, I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. ;-)
The next single is "Mona Lisa," a rather ordinary acoustic ballad. "Another Heart Calls" is simply too teenage-girl whine-fest to me... call it old age or cynicism, I just find it way too formulaic.
The Pierces is who the co-vocals are credited to.
HelpMeSleep
12/16/08, 10:37 PM
Seeing that you enjoyed The Maine and FTSK, I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. ;-)
The next single is "Mona Lisa," a rather ordinary acoustic ballad. "Another Heart Calls" is simply too teenage-girl whine-fest to me... call it old age or cynicism, I just find it way too formulaic.
The Pierces is who the co-vocals are credited to.
I like Mona Lisa actually. what'd you think of I Wanna, Chris?
PS. anyone wanna tell me how the fuck you multi-quote news posts on this new ap? I have yet to figure it out.
Chris Fallon
12/16/08, 11:01 PM
I like Mona Lisa actually. what'd you think of I Wanna, Chris?
PS. anyone wanna tell me how the fuck you multi-quote news posts on this new ap? I have yet to figure it out.
Honestly, I think it's a rather lackluster way to open the album. It doesn't really grab the listener, in my opinion, and the lyrics are childish.
"Fallin' Apart" should have opened the disc -- much better chorus there. That or "Damn Girl," which both contain a prominent hook with addictive qualities.
Oh, and just press the "multi-quote" link there; it should automatically do the rest for you.
Chris Fallon
12/16/08, 11:05 PM
chris, would you feel the same way if this was their first album??... just wondering.
Sorry, I didn't see this the first time around!
To be honest, if this were the debut, it would be lost in the shuffle of other bands who do this kind of thing already. It just lacks imagination, and because AAR were one of the first bands of this ilk, it's quite disappointing to see they haven't made any real professional progress since Move Along.
what did people expect from this? i've listened to it multiple times and it's exactly what i thought it to be. shoot, i read an interview awhile back where tyson said he only owned 4 cds and was driving around in his car listening to oldies for inspiration for songs. he said he usually starts with a hook and goes from there. that's what he did with this album- it's melody and hook driven. it's a good pop cd. it's no kind of great leap or big step, but that's not what was expected. to me this cd is thoroughly enjoyable and it definitely stands out to the slew of sub-par pop bands out there right now. AAR is better at what they do than most in the genre.
hxchairstylist
12/16/08, 11:43 PM
bummed on this album.
oh well, at least FOB still knows how to make a record.
Blake Solomon
12/17/08, 12:02 AM
Seeing that you enjoyed The Maine and FTSK, I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. ;-)
The next single is "Mona Lisa," a rather ordinary acoustic ballad. "Another Heart Calls" is simply too teenage-girl whine-fest to me... call it old age or cynicism, I just find it way too formulaic.
The Pierces is who the co-vocals are credited to.
Socially, I'm an 8th grader. Always will be.
Chris Fallon
12/17/08, 12:29 AM
what did people expect from this? i've listened to it multiple times and it's exactly what i thought it to be. shoot, i read an interview awhile back where tyson said he only owned 4 cds and was driving around in his car listening to oldies for inspiration for songs. he said he usually starts with a hook and goes from there. that's what he did with this album- it's melody and hook driven. it's a good pop cd. it's no kind of great leap or big step, but that's not what was expected. to me this cd is thoroughly enjoyable and it definitely stands out to the slew of sub-par pop bands out there right now. AAR is better at what they do than most in the genre.
That's the problem: the hooks are not there. The band built themselves on that notion, and there isn't anything here.
For me, if a pop record bores me, something is severely wrong. I shouldn't be anxious for a song to end; the hook should be catchy enough to lure me in, while also remaining captivating enough for me to want to hear it more than once.
Minus three songs, the band really missed the mark on that.
Paulb-182
12/17/08, 02:31 AM
good review, some nice comedy touches
i wont be buying this album.. the lead off single was terrible i thought
HelpMeSleep
12/17/08, 02:55 AM
Honestly, I think it's a rather lackluster way to open the album. It doesn't really grab the listener, in my opinion, and the lyrics are childish.
"Fallin' Apart" should have opened the disc -- much better chorus there. That or "Damn Girl," which both contain a prominent hook with addictive qualities.
Oh, and just press the "multi-quote" link there; it should automatically do the rest for you.
I'm so much more easily pleased than you. haha.
I think Damn Girl might be my favorite.
the multi-quote thing didn't work for me. it hates me lol.
ll_popcorn
12/17/08, 03:03 AM
I dunno.
I've always been an AAR fan. But, after I heard the whole album, I was pretty disappointed. The album grew on me later, but the important thing is that it didn't catch me by the first listen. I'd give it a 65%-70%. Personal favorites are Mona Lisa, Sunshine, Real World, and Damn Girl(Note, I Wanna was a fair song in my opinion).
Just curious, Chris, have you heard the hidden track "Sunshine"? I thought it was pretty good. And what's your opinion on Mona Lisa? Any potentials in staying on billboard?
God, I just hope they'd produce their forth album soon. At least, not another 3 year wait...
Chris Fallon
12/17/08, 04:42 AM
I dunno.
I've always been an AAR fan. But, after I heard the whole album, I was pretty disappointed. The album grew on me later, but the important thing is that it didn't catch me by the first listen. I'd give it a 65%-70%. Personal favorites are Mona Lisa, Sunshine, Real World, and Damn Girl(Note, I Wanna was a fair song in my opinion).
Just curious, Chris, have you heard the hidden track "Sunshine"? I thought it was pretty good. And what's your opinion on Mona Lisa? Any potentials in staying on billboard?
God, I just hope they'd produce their forth album soon. At least, not another 3 year wait...
"Sunshine" is one of the tracks I like.
Not sure if "Mona Lisa" will do any damage on the charts. Considering it's an acoustic ballad, it could go either way: sometimes, radio eats that up and other times, it's too predictable for audiences to feast upon. Hard to say really... I just think there are much other worthy choices, and while I'm no fan, people really seem to dig "Another Heart Calls."
Shin Akuma
12/17/08, 05:24 AM
"Wind Blows" anyone? am i the only one??? ..... i give them 85%!!!
mateoman
12/17/08, 07:36 AM
I don't know. I completely enjoyed this album in itself. I'd get it if you said an artist is a legacy of its entire discography, but each individual album should me measured up in its own right. And if so done, it sounds like a lot of you would just shoot this down worse. Which I don't get, because I liked almost every song on it. I've given it seven listens in the last day, and haven't grown bored yet. I'm actually enjoying it more with each listen haha.
With the exception of Christmas-oriented albums it's the only thing really catching me right now. I'm not saying it broke too much ground or anything. I just think its a lot of fun. And since when did people expect stellar innovation from the pop-punk region? I think we've become too spoiled with Valencia-type ordeals lately (a band who, by the way, I do love also). I wouldn't vote 100% here. But maybe 80%? It's surely not BAD, by any means.
Shin Akuma
12/17/08, 07:45 AM
I don't know. I completely enjoyed this album in itself. I'd get it if you said an artist is a legacy of its entire discography, but each individual album should me measured up in its own right. And if so done, it sounds like a lot of you would just shoot this down worse. Which I don't get, because I liked almost every song on it. I've given it seven listens in the last day, and haven't grown bored yet. I'm actually enjoying it more with each listen haha.
With the exception of Christmas-oriented albums it's the only thing really catching me right now. I'm not saying it broke too much ground or anything. I just think its a lot of fun. And since when did people expect stellar innovation from the pop-punk region? I think we've become too spoiled with Valencia-type ordeals lately (a band who, by the way, I do love also). I wouldn't vote 100% here. But maybe 80%? It's surely not BAD, by any means.
you are so fucking right dude!
HandsDown28
12/17/08, 07:55 AM
Great job on the review - well written.
I was pretty confused when I heard the single "Gives You Hell" - it just sounded so...boring, static, and status quo. Then I saw them play at Irving Plaza a few weeks ago, where they played "Mona Lisa" & "Believe" & one other forgettable new track. I dig "Mona Lisa" and it's simplicity - I can see it maybe catching on, but nowhere near as big as other acoustic hits like "Hey There Delilah." I actually really like "Believe," perhaps because Tyson explained it was written for someone in their lives that died; it was memorable because of their emotional performance of it.
With all that said, I'm incredibly underwhelmed by the album (though I've only just listened to it twice so far). For pop, nothing really sticks. Nothing is as epic-sounding as their last album, nor as charming as their first. You're right - I'm disappointed.
But maybe after a few listens...? (I like to hold out hope in case, because I truly love this band!)
xoMASONxo24
12/17/08, 10:42 AM
the single off this album "gives you hell" is awesome:-)
sometimesnj327
12/17/08, 11:26 AM
Wow, I think this album is better than what you gave it. there about 3-4 good singles on here. And isn't that all you really need for a successful album?
3 and a half outta 5 stars for me!
having three or four good singles doesn't necessarily make it a good album
ie: Simple Plan's self titled and Good Charlottes Good Morning Revival
Chris Fallon
12/17/08, 03:17 PM
I don't know. I completely enjoyed this album in itself. I'd get it if you said an artist is a legacy of its entire discography, but each individual album should me measured up in its own right. And if so done, it sounds like a lot of you would just shoot this down worse. Which I don't get, because I liked almost every song on it. I've given it seven listens in the last day, and haven't grown bored yet. I'm actually enjoying it more with each listen haha.
With the exception of Christmas-oriented albums it's the only thing really catching me right now. I'm not saying it broke too much ground or anything. I just think its a lot of fun. And since when did people expect stellar innovation from the pop-punk region? I think we've become too spoiled with Valencia-type ordeals lately (a band who, by the way, I do love also). I wouldn't vote 100% here. But maybe 80%? It's surely not BAD, by any means.
Hey, it's fine that you like the album -- but an artist should be measured by each effort until they can prove they have a career to be respected by. Two albums that took a simple idea and propelled it to heights other bands ripped off means after three years, we should expect something that doesn't contain lackluster hooks & boring orchestrations.
Bands make misfires and disappointments, this is one of those moments. I gave it a chance and listened to it a lot, never finding any real bright spots in the moments I disliked at first listen. Sadly, the production value is terrible and the lyrics are too childish for this sort of music. Bands should never take steps back when trying to move forward, and while it's not as awful as Plain White T's, the similarities in execution are prevalent.
outrageouslyAL
12/17/08, 04:43 PM
Sorry, I didn't see this the first time around!
To be honest, if this were the debut, it would be lost in the shuffle of other bands who do this kind of thing already. It just lacks imagination, and because AAR were one of the first bands of this ilk, it's quite disappointing to see they haven't made any real professional progress since Move Along.
i can see that. perhaps i like it so much because i already love them. but i can see it getting lost among others.
but i still think its great!!
Dee2009
12/17/08, 08:01 PM
That anytime a male reviewer listens to an album where lyrics seem too "emotional" for him, he scores the album low.;-)
They are in their mid 20's---you can actually hear the difference not only in sound quality but lyrically with a song off their freshman album "My Paper Heart" to a present song off this album such as "When the Wind Blows" or "Back to Me". One would have to be deaf not to hear the progression.
They have grown so much in their writing style and the quality of each album.
They also don't poop out albums like Fall Out Boy does.
Since you did rate them low, I do hope that when this album takes off, as I know it will, that when you see their faces, it gives you hell.
They'll prove you wrong. They always do.;-)
WhoSaidThat?
12/17/08, 08:33 PM
Oh, god...
WhoSaidThat?
12/17/08, 08:33 PM
Nobody respond to this person. Not worth it.
Chris Fallon
12/17/08, 11:47 PM
That anytime a male reviewer listens to an album where lyrics seem too "emotional" for him, he scores the album low.;-)
They are in their mid 20's---you can actually hear the difference not only in sound quality but lyrically with a song off their freshman album "My Paper Heart" to a present song off this album such as "When the Wind Blows" or "Back to Me". One would have to be deaf not to hear the progression.
They have grown so much in their writing style and the quality of each album.
They also don't poop out albums like Fall Out Boy does.
Since you did rate them low, I do hope that when this album takes off, as I know it will, that when you see their faces, it gives you hell.
They'll prove you wrong. They always do.;-)
Yes, because "emotional" lyrics don't appeal to me. If the lyrics weren't cliched garbage, it would be different. They are only emotional to 14 year old females, not a consistent or wide audience.
I heard progression from album 1 to album 2, but since you likely didn't bother to give my review a fair chance (judging by your comment), you forgot to notice I called this a "disappointment," meaning I was unhappy it is not very good. Fall Out Boy may "poop out albums" (as you so eloquently put it), but they play with their sound and experiment with lyrical themes. These themes touch upon many different aspects on their career trajectory, whereas AAR writes high school love poems -- the band needs to move past that and play around with where their pop sound can and should go. Sonwriters used to do this often, but it's much easier for bands to be lazy and not work for their audience's affection when the main demographic are teenage girls, who are typically drawn to pop songs that offer no real challenge; they're easy to swallow, nothing more.
The single isn't doing well on the charts, so if the album is able to sell well despite that lacking tool, good for them. This is one opinion, and I would hope you could see it as just that -- I see this is your first post and it's evident you're an avid fan, however, that bias shouldn't interfere with criticizing an album for lacking any real inventiveness or evolution.
Not really sure how they've proven me wrong before... or anyone else for that matter. I don't understand why you're taking this so personally.
adixczz
12/18/08, 04:02 AM
another pop album, the new backstreet boys hahahah
The single isn't doing well on the charts, so if the album is able to sell well despite that lacking tool, good for them.
Atrociously incorrect. The single is picking up on radio and is also #13 on iTunes currently. It has been in the Top 30 for downloads the past month. It's current charting:
Billboard Hot 100: 37 (up 9 spots)
Billboard Pop 100: 40 (up 6 spots)
Hot Digital Tracks: 19 (up 3 spots)
Mainstream Top 40: 35 (up 2 spots)
Also remember that it took 'Dirty Little Secret' a LONG time to get to its eventual peak. It even charted on radio and then fall off and then came back up to Top 5 radio and #1 Digital. I would hardly consider #13 iTunes and #35 Radio "not picking up".
People seem to forget that FOB's single, 'I Don't Care', flopped horribly. It barely got anywhere digitally and is already falling off in radio.
I will give you your respect for your review because it was a "dissapointment" to me, but I would consider it a solid 70-75%. Their previous two albums are much better though.
The Personist
12/18/08, 09:55 AM
Atrociously incorrect. The single is picking up on radio and is also #13 on iTunes currently. It has been in the Top 30 for downloads the past month. It's current charting:
Billboard Hot 100: 37 (up 9 spots)
Billboard Pop 100: 40 (up 6 spots)
Hot Digital Tracks: 19 (up 3 spots)
Mainstream Top 40: 35 (up 2 spots)
Also remember that it took 'Dirty Little Secret' a LONG time to get to its eventual peak. It even charted on radio and then fall off and then came back up to Top 5 radio and #1 Digital. I would hardly consider #13 iTunes and #35 Radio "not picking up".
People seem to forget that FOB's single, 'I Don't Care', flopped horribly. It barely got anywhere digitally and is already falling off in radio.
I will give you your respect for your review because it was a "dissapointment" to me, but I would consider it a solid 70-75%. Their previous two albums are much better though.
"I Don't Care" > anything on this album.
Seriously. It may not be your style, but that song is beautifully arranged and composed. There's so much going on. It's awesome. This album is too simplistic for its own good.
Chris Fallon
12/18/08, 02:33 PM
Atrociously incorrect. The single is picking up on radio and is also #13 on iTunes currently. It has been in the Top 30 for downloads the past month. It's current charting:
Billboard Hot 100: 37 (up 9 spots)
Billboard Pop 100: 40 (up 6 spots)
Hot Digital Tracks: 19 (up 3 spots)
Mainstream Top 40: 35 (up 2 spots)
Also remember that it took 'Dirty Little Secret' a LONG time to get to its eventual peak. It even charted on radio and then fall off and then came back up to Top 5 radio and #1 Digital. I would hardly consider #13 iTunes and #35 Radio "not picking up".
People seem to forget that FOB's single, 'I Don't Care', flopped horribly. It barely got anywhere digitally and is already falling off in radio.
I will give you your respect for your review because it was a "dissapointment" to me, but I would consider it a solid 70-75%. Their previous two albums are much better though.
Digitally, yes, it's been doing well in Downloads -- I meant more along the lines of radio play, which it's barely making a ripple. Note that the single has been out since September, too, with very little promotion from the label.
I'm not blaming the band for that, it's mostly due in part to the label's lack of marketing. However, for a single that has been out that long, it should have done more than what it has done so far. For their sake, I hope it cracks the top 20 on Billboard's Hot 100, I really do.
"I Don't Care" suffered the fate of "too many songs released," for a preview of the album. That prevented it from finding a wide audience, as people were too concerned with hearing the other songs, too.
rocknboy1
12/18/08, 10:50 PM
i did not think this album was terrible...not half as awesome as move along (which kicked ass), but i personally think another heart calls is the best track on the album...all just opinion
Simonthm
12/19/08, 10:41 AM
Two words: OVER PRODUCED
WhoSaidThat?
12/19/08, 03:34 PM
One word: OVERPRODUCED
Fixed.
I suck.
TheSkyline
12/19/08, 03:59 PM
That anytime a male reviewer listens to an album where lyrics seem too "emotional" for him, he scores the album low.;-)
They are in their mid 20's---you can actually hear the difference not only in sound quality but lyrically with a song off their freshman album "My Paper Heart" to a present song off this album such as "When the Wind Blows" or "Back to Me". One would have to be deaf not to hear the progression.
They have grown so much in their writing style and the quality of each album.
They also don't poop out albums like Fall Out Boy does.
Since you did rate them low, I do hope that when this album takes off, as I know it will, that when you see their faces, it gives you hell.
They'll prove you wrong. They always do.;-)
O my god you're an idiot..
And just throwing this out there, but FOB's latest was so much better than this, you would have to be deaf not to notice.. ;-)
chriskobes
12/19/08, 04:09 PM
i think its cool to switch up your sound a little, all of the chorus' to each track were catchy and the way tyson sings his songs, with that crazy note he hits where his voice cuts out and the clever lyrics is awesome, i dont see the same talent in fallout boys singing. plus you can relate to aar's songs much more. only thing i didnt like was how they would flood the mic with a bunch of instruments at once.
TheSkyline
12/19/08, 04:23 PM
i think its cool to switch up your sound a little, all of the chorus' to each track were catchy and the way tyson sings his songs, with that crazy note he hits where his voice cuts out and the clever lyrics is awesome, i dont see the same talent in fallout boys singing. plus you can relate to aar's songs much more. only thing i didnt like was how they would flood the mic with a bunch of instruments at once.
Also called, not having a good vocal range and not being able to get to that note without having his voice crack.
chriskobes
12/19/08, 04:36 PM
Also called, not having a good vocal range and not being able to get to that note without having his voice crack.
wow are you serious, he will do it on a short verse and a long verse, its called showing a little emotion in your singing and not being monotone like fob
TheSkyline
12/19/08, 04:37 PM
wow are you serious, he will do it on a short verse and a long verse, its called showing a little emotion in your singing and not being monotone like fob
You've got to be kidding me. I like AAR and all, but that's a joke. Patrick... monotone? That has to be one of the most ignorant things I've seen posted on this site.
Chris Fallon
12/20/08, 05:09 AM
wow are you serious, he will do it on a short verse and a long verse, its called showing a little emotion in your singing and not being monotone like fob
Patrick has soul to his vocals -- I really don't see how anyone could argue that. Tyson really doesn't have much range, and it shows due to AAR never straying from the basic pop formula. A vocal crack is not a singer "showing emotion" or "having good range" -- range is the ability to sing in key through several tones & fluctuating the vocal chords. Tyson doesn't, and as far as I have noticed, can't do that.
In order to show they have some real chops, AAR has to truly branch out on their next record, in all ways, not just Tyson's vocal ability.
HelpMeSleep
12/20/08, 10:14 AM
O my god you're an idiot..
And just throwing this out there, but FOB's latest was so much better than this, you would have to be deaf not to notice.. ;-)
completely agreed and I actually like this album. don't love it, but like it. but either way, Folie A Deux completely owns this album.
HelpMeSleep
12/20/08, 10:19 AM
wow are you serious, he will do it on a short verse and a long verse, its called showing a little emotion in your singing and not being monotone like fob
"montone like FOB"? has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Patrick has an amazing voice; one that's anything but monotonous. like Chris said, he's got soul to his vocals. you've now officially lost any credibility about anything you ever say again, as far as I'm concerned.
AARisLove
12/20/08, 10:57 AM
Okay, first of all, the lyrics that you mentioned, "look out the window at a sky that doesnt care" was off of the demo of "Real World", not off the cd. The correct lyrics are "i look for some hope/in every face is a vacant stare," so you should really have correct information.
Second of all, this album was rated way too low.
I rate this album 5/5, 100%, must-pre-order, top-of-my-wish-list-good.
And yet somehow, people would rather listen to folie a deux with that far too arrogant, extremely repetitive "i dont care" song on it.
Oh, and i know that this wasn't said in this interview, but why do a lot of people keep calling "I wanna" a "cocky song"? The song is about wanting to be near someone you love, which isn't cocky to me.
People just don't get it.
This record is amazing.
The Personist
12/20/08, 11:18 AM
Okay, first of all, the lyrics that you mentioned, "look out the window at a sky that doesnt care" was off of the demo of "Real World", not off the cd. The correct lyrics are "i look for some hope/in every face is a vacant stare," so you should really have correct information.
Second of all, this album was rated way too low.
I rate this album 5/5, 100%, must-pre-order, top-of-my-wish-list-good.
And yet somehow, people would rather listen to folie a deux with that far too arrogant, extremely repetitive "i dont care" song on it.
Oh, and i know that this wasn't said in this interview, but why do a lot of people keep calling "I wanna" a "cocky song"? The song is about wanting to be near someone you love, which isn't cocky to me.
People just don't get it.
This record is amazing.
"I Don't Care" is tongue-in-cheek, not outright arrogant. That's why it's brilliant. Pete's lyrics have been aiming for that balance for the longest time, and this is the first album where he hit the sarcastic nail perfectly on the head.
"I Wanna" is, as Chris called it in his review, high school poetry. The band isn't really doing much to change the way they've written since their incredible debut. Songs like "Paper Heart" and "Swing, Swing" were cute and endearing because of the soft, understated desperation and heartbreak in the lyrics that the music's simplicity reinforced. Move Along was decent, but the lyrics got a tad annoying because, well, they were rehashes of the previous album; however, since the music was so energetic and fun, it was ok. But this time, the fact that the band is writing the same lyrics as always is just not acceptable. They need to do SOMETHING to change that up. Fall Out Boy's sound changes with every record; AAR's seems to be stagnating, which is unfortunate, but something you can't overlook because of blind fan devotion.
#WhiteFender#
12/20/08, 12:27 PM
great review
AARisLove
12/20/08, 12:28 PM
Oh, and I love Tyson's voice.
No matter what he sings, he always sounds genuine & I wouldn't have it any other way.
HelpMeSleep
12/20/08, 12:30 PM
Okay, first of all, the lyrics that you mentioned, "look out the window at a sky that doesnt care" was off of the demo of "Real World", not off the cd. The correct lyrics are "i look for some hope/in every face is a vacant stare," so you should really have correct information.
Second of all, this album was rated way too low.
I rate this album 5/5, 100%, must-pre-order, top-of-my-wish-list-good.
And yet somehow, people would rather listen to folie a deux with that far too arrogant, extremely repetitive "i dont care" song on it.
Oh, and i know that this wasn't said in this interview, but why do a lot of people keep calling "I wanna" a "cocky song"? The song is about wanting to be near someone you love, which isn't cocky to me.
People just don't get it.
This record is amazing.
wtf is up with your font.
ZebraLouboutin
12/20/08, 12:30 PM
Hi, I'm new. I don't think the songs on wtwcd sound all the same, most of the songs on fad sound the same, like on take this to your grave, I can't differentiate. And in Mona Lisa there's a line that goes "without a change our lives will never last." aar "changed" their sound, and their lyrics can be interpretted any way, when I listen to FOB, i feel I'm too naive to understand what pat's singing about. FOB doesn't do as good a job performing live compared to AAR anyway, ty wins at singing. I still love FOB, but AAR always wins.
HelpMeSleep
12/20/08, 12:37 PM
lol@ AAR fankids comparing them to FOB and dissing them. you have no clue what you're talking about. and this is from someone who actually likes AAR.
ZebraLouboutin
12/20/08, 12:39 PM
I like FOB, but my cultured backround and my added hormones make me more complex therefore making me want more variety, like AAR. (Can't we all be friends, AAR and FOB are going to be on tour together)
HelpMeSleep
12/20/08, 12:47 PM
lolwut. you're saying you're more complex? :rolleyes:
you've just made it clear that when you talk about the new Fall Out Boy album, you are someone who has not heard it, because there is plenty of variety there.
and what's this about them touring together?
ZebraLouboutin
12/20/08, 12:50 PM
i think it's in the summer, and I have both albums. The beginning of (Coffee's For Closers) sounds like the beginning of AAR's Night Drive.
HelpMeSleep
12/20/08, 01:03 PM
yeah, the very very beginning of both those songs is very similar. that doesn't really say anything though.
they have summer tours planned? it's not even 2009 yet. I wasn't aware things were done that far in advance.
ZebraLouboutin
12/20/08, 01:04 PM
it's late february-ish
ZebraLouboutin
12/20/08, 01:04 PM
i want to know what each band thinks about each others' albums actually
HelpMeSleep
12/20/08, 01:15 PM
no, right now it's december.
when I met AAR at the last show on their tour, they said "don't buy Fall Out Boy's album on tuesday, get ours instead." I preordered both. although my AAR preorder hasn't come yet.
ZebraLouboutin
12/20/08, 01:44 PM
that's weird that it hasn't come. I bought both deluxe albums at Best Buy.
HelpMeSleep
12/20/08, 01:48 PM
I preordered it from their merch guy on their tour. $10 and you wrote your address and stuff and you also got a wristband to meet them after the show. it was kind of sketch. at this point, I almost don't expect to get it.
DI Pistola
12/20/08, 08:35 PM
I just bought "Sunshine," the bonus track off iTunes.
It's good. I think we'll just stop there.
AARisLove
12/21/08, 12:04 PM
wtf is up with your font.
i made it blue so it was easier to find.
AARisLove
12/21/08, 12:15 PM
"I Don't Care" is tongue-in-cheek, not outright arrogant. That's why it's brilliant. Pete's lyrics have been aiming for that balance for the longest time, and this is the first album where he hit the sarcastic nail perfectly on the head.
"I Wanna" is, as Chris called it in his review, high school poetry. The band isn't really doing much to change the way they've written since their incredible debut. Songs like "Paper Heart" and "Swing, Swing" were cute and endearing because of the soft, understated desperation and heartbreak in the lyrics that the music's simplicity reinforced. Move Along was decent, but the lyrics got a tad annoying because, well, they were rehashes of the previous album; however, since the music was so energetic and fun, it was ok. But this time, the fact that the band is writing the same lyrics as always is just not acceptable. They need to do SOMETHING to change that up. Fall Out Boy's sound changes with every record; AAR's seems to be stagnating, which is unfortunate, but something you can't overlook because of blind fan devotion.
okay, well i appreciate you saying that their debut album was incredible. I agree.
And yeah, i know that their songs are mostly about heartbreak, but they all have different sounds.
Another Heart Calls--that's an amazing duet.
Fallin' Apart is energetic and fun.
Damn Girl-that's a great one; bitter (yet i think Tyson's voice lightens the blow)and a good one to dance to.
And then they've written new ones on this album that arent exactly about heartbreak.
Gives You Hell-that's for whoever you hate, no matter how you're related to them.
Believe-that's about Tim Burbank, who died while they were writing this album. [RIP]
Mona Lisa-that's about the world ending and wanting to be with someone you love for your last few minutes of life.
And i know that you will probably keep your same opinion, which is fine, but that's just what i think.
Sic Transit Zeb
12/21/08, 12:18 PM
I don't see how AAR is any good at all. I really didn't like their debut at all.
radxbandit
12/21/08, 02:50 PM
il dislike this album and was hugely disappointed after the myspace stream. there are only a few songs that i enjoyed, but not enough to purchase the album. i don't see how they can enjoy making this stuff, move along was so much more ambitious in terms of them wanting to improve as pop songwriters.
Chris Fallon
12/21/08, 03:42 PM
If your username is AAR is Love, I'm pretty sure I already know your stance on this album, so it's not a shock or anything.
I have no bias, unlike you do - how many times do I have to repeat myself before people get what my viewpoint is? Just read my words, and if you agree, cool. If not, fine.
TheSkyline
12/21/08, 04:02 PM
no, right now it's december.
when I met AAR at the last show on their tour, they said "don't buy Fall Out Boy's album on tuesday, get ours instead." I preordered both. although my AAR preorder hasn't come yet.
They told you not to buy FOB's new album? I so would've walked up to them and told them I got the whole pre-order package for FAD and downloaded AAR's album's leak, then deleted it from my computer for sucking. I hate when bands try to tell their fans not to buy someone else's album.
HelpMeSleep
12/22/08, 03:26 AM
i made it blue so it was easier to find.
don't.
Cougarboy84095
12/23/08, 01:53 PM
Personally I think the lyrics and beats are quite catchy. I have been listening to the cd non stop since it's release and I feel it is way worth it.. I would give it a 7.5. It is hard to compare this album to the AAR of the past because it is a completely different style. I like it alot overall.
Plus, it generally takes people a couple of runs through a cd to start to like it.. I don't know how many of these people giving it a crappy review have done that.
WhoSaidThat?
12/23/08, 02:19 PM
Personally I think the lyrics and beats are quite catchy. I have been listening to the cd non stop since it's release and I feel it is way worth it.. I would give it a 7.5. It is hard to compare this album to the AAR of the past because it is a completely different style. I like it alot overall.
Plus, it generally takes people a couple of runs through a cd to start to like it.. I don't know how many of these people giving it a crappy review have done that.
Well, with this kind of music, it shouldn't really "grow" on you. It either catches you or it doesn't. But I think we should end this, though.
ZebraLouboutin
12/23/08, 08:14 PM
a review can have all types of opinions because it's pure opinion, so aar can post their opinions, and so can "non-lovers", both of you can stop biting back at each other for each others' opinions. no one is forcing you to listen to the album.
chriskobes
12/25/08, 10:43 AM
all im saying is that when you listen to FOB all you here in their lyrics is a bunch of random words with no direction in what they are feeling. go listen to folie a duex and you will get lost in what pat is singing about. which is probably why the title of the songs arent even close to what the song is saying. but they have a great bass and guitarist which is why the beginning of the songs sound so cool. i dont care is the only track that makes sense, someone else probably wrote that for them. like i said you can relate to AAR songs much more and can actually understand what they are feeling. patty should go toke another one because i think they are stoned when they write their songs.
blinkme
12/28/08, 04:17 AM
Socially, I'm an 8th grader. Always will be.
one of the funniest things i've ever read and so true for me too.
HelpMeSleep
12/28/08, 04:24 AM
all im saying is that when you listen to FOB all you here in their lyrics is a bunch of random words with no direction in what they are feeling. go listen to folie a duex and you will get lost in what pat is singing about. which is probably why the title of the songs arent even close to what the song is saying. but they have a great bass and guitarist which is why the beginning of the songs sound so cool. i dont care is the only track that makes sense, someone else probably wrote that for them. like i said you can relate to AAR songs much more and can actually understand what they are feeling. patty should go toke another one because i think they are stoned when they write their songs.
lol. first of all, Patrick doesn't write the lyrics. Pete does. and secondly, I've found plenty of FOB lyrics I've really related to over the years.
Sandie-Jenkins
01/02/09, 10:54 AM
Haha this is easily my favorite TAAR cd. I love it.
i actually liked this album alot. not as great as move along, but really cool and nice to listen to especially breakin'
BTW it's "And I figured it out NOW/breaking's what the heart is for".
Oh and could you all please STOP comparing TAAR to FOB ?! Their music styles are completely different. Every album is great in its own way.
And "When the world comes down" is really one of my fav all-time albums. The lyrics are great, you can relate to them. It's also very catchy. Sue me if you want but it is.
MBIIdollaBill
06/26/11, 10:02 PM
why did you even use the word "emo" in this review, real emo music has a lot more emotion to it than this. its sad, swing swing was a pretty great song, but i guess all the underage poon got to their head (not intended as a penis pun)
LGFUAD21
07/31/11, 03:49 PM
Another album i've dug out recently and been listening to quite a bit recently. YEah the lyrics are a it mundane (Tyson Ritter has never really been great for that and it's not an element of AAR tat draws me in) but i completely disagree with this review (which is rare Chris). Gives you hell is a brilliant first single. It's catchy, playful and how can you resist joining in with the crowd at the end of the track for that middle eight section??? And Another Heart Calls is almost perfect as a pop song (the production complements the build up, the vocal interplay, the power with which the drums kick in along with the Def Leppard inspired guitar work)
Sure this album had its weak moments (Mona Lisa is very uninteresting and the Wind Blows is so forgettable I can;t even remember if that the actual track name). But the high points (Gives You Hell, Another Heart Calls, Real World, Fallin' Apart, Believe imo) are great. I always enjoy Eric Valentines production (I understand when you say it sound too filtered and lacks power and agree to an extent). His records sound like no other. I cant describe why but they just do. They are essentially produced to sound like pop records but not in the sense that most of what you are hearing is a computer.
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