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I for one love John Feldmann's style of production. What do you guys think?
SanePsychotic
12/16/08, 02:47 PM
He's the guy from Goldfinger, right?
Burn That Shit
12/16/08, 07:18 PM
I think he's pretty legit at making every band sound exactly the same /shrug.
Dr. Acula
12/16/08, 07:24 PM
I cant stand the way he makes drums sound on every record.
abusedcat
12/16/08, 07:48 PM
I don't.
Let the music fucking breathe, dude.
Klatzke
12/16/08, 08:49 PM
I can't stand his production. Everything he produces sounds the exact same (i.e. Escape the Fate, CIWWAF, The Used).
He's the guy from Goldfinger, right?
Yes sir!
I think he's pretty legit at making every band sound exactly the same /shrug.
True, but I don't think those bands mind.
I cant stand the way he makes drums sound on every record.
Examples?
I don't.
Let the music fucking breathe, dude.
Haha, I think it's an acquired taste for excess.
I can't stand his production. Everything he produces sounds the exact same (i.e. Escape the Fate, CIWWAF, The Used).
I love it, but I'm thinking it's a love it or hate it thing with Feldmann production.
Dr. Acula
12/17/08, 07:59 AM
Examples?
The Used self titled. The snare drum sounds like a garbage can.
The Used self titled. The snare drum sounds like a garbage can.
Hahaha, I'll have to give it another listen.
Burn That Shit
12/17/08, 01:45 PM
He's the guy from Goldfinger, right?
Yeah I definitely like some early Goldfinger, but not a fan of his production I guess.
Yeah I definitely like some early Goldfinger, but not a fan of his production I guess.
I think he's phenomenal, and I think my favorite earlier Goldfinger song is "Happy." The punch of the guitars makes me smile every time I listen to the song.
Chris Fallon
12/17/08, 03:23 PM
I find his production to be obnoxious -- the way drums sound on his albums are atrocious.
ohheroine
12/17/08, 04:15 PM
i love the used self titled, but you're right about the drums. they sound weird. there isnt much else by feldmann i really like.
AussieBoy
12/17/08, 07:23 PM
what about his work with The Veronicas & Lee Harding from Aus Idol!!! hahaha
Hainzey X
12/17/08, 07:34 PM
hey guys. so um, ive always kind of been had a hard time appriciating good production. i always hear people talking about their favorite producers and stuff and i just kind of don't understand it. maybe you guys can help me out. what signatures or characteristics make a producer's style distinct or unique ?
fadedmemories
12/17/08, 08:58 PM
I would like to thank him for producing the first album I truly loved:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XC8VPPSSL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
lew_1987
12/18/08, 05:05 AM
The Used self titled. The snare drum sounds like a garbage can.
I agree with this, although I think it suits their sound on that album.
I haven't heard many of the albums he's produced, so don't really have enough of an opinion of him.
Paulb-182
12/18/08, 05:25 AM
i cant stand his production.
allhollows86
12/18/08, 05:39 AM
I think the only band he matches up perfectly with and improves their sound is Story of the Year
I think the only band he matches up perfectly with and improves their sound is Story of the Year
That album is really good. It gets glossed over because they had a few hit singles (omg they were on emtv!!!111) but it contains some incredible songs ("And The Hero Will Drown").
-ACA
His production fits Goldfinger very well. Also, Mest, seeing as it's a Goldfinger Jr.. As for other bands, the only one I've heard that used his style properly and took advantage of his repitition was the Used's second album. Everything else he works on does sound similar, but if you like one, you like them all. He's got some good ideas, but eventually the bands that use him aren't bands that are all that creative in the first place.
lew_1987
12/18/08, 06:50 AM
Most producers are going to re-use elements of their 'sound' if it works well for them... Brian McTernan makes a lot of his drums sound almost exactly the same.
fadedmemories
12/18/08, 09:26 PM
The songs on Decomposer that he produced was great as well.
I find his production to be obnoxious -- the way drums sound on his albums are atrocious.
That is the consensus.
hey guys. so um, ive always kind of been had a hard time appriciating good production. i always hear people talking about their favorite producers and stuff and i just kind of don't understand it. maybe you guys can help me out. what signatures or characteristics make a producer's style distinct or unique ?
Well, with Feldmann he tends to overdo a lot things. I love this, but a lot of people don't.
I would like to thank him for producing the first album I truly loved:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XC8VPPSSL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
This was the first of his production I had ever heard, and I love it too.
I agree with this, although I think it suits their sound on that album.
I haven't heard many of the albums he's produced, so don't really have enough of an opinion of him.
Listen to all of The Used's records and you'll be able to make one.
His production fits Goldfinger very well. Also, Mest, seeing as it's a Goldfinger Jr.. As for other bands, the only one I've heard that used his style properly and took advantage of his repitition was the Used's second album. Everything else he works on does sound similar, but if you like one, you like them all. He's got some good ideas, but eventually the bands that use him aren't bands that are all that creative in the first place.
Agreed.
The songs on Decomposer that he produced was great as well.
The Matches said that they wanted him to do the whole record originally, but for some contractual reason they couldn't, but I agree with you.
WhoSaidThat?
12/27/08, 10:53 PM
I'm in the minority, but I like Feldmann's shit.
I'm in the minority, but I like Feldmann's shit.
Welcome. :-)
Shin Akuma
03/02/09, 06:29 PM
i wont make another thread about feldmann .. i just wanted to tell u .. he is my idol since 1996! (yeh it sounds so childish but its true) Goldfinger got me into ska-punk .. Superman is the greatest ska-punk song EVER! John got me into music production ..thanks to him i have my all time fav. hobby home recordings! ... plus ..i fuckin love his crystal clear sound! I play every fuckin instrument like him .. yeh! so obsessed to be like him :P and now the good news .. i found a record label here in my country (Greece) and i will release my first cd single .. thanks to John Feldmann .. ;P i wish i could fly to america just to shake his hand and say to him thanks for everything you did,do,will do in music industry and for being the inspiration for so many ppl! He is a genious! He can turn shit into gold (CIWWAF compare their first album with Rotation)
Shin Akuma
03/02/09, 07:05 PM
oh! i noticed that is "cool to hate" feldmann production here in AP ...! everyone says the same shit about the drum sound... go watch how he record drums ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-Nu7zueho ... i dont think he would waste so many hours with a real drummer just to use READYMADE SAMPLES in the end! Yeh he over compressed the sound but so what? Its more radio-friendly, more poppy, more accesible to everyone .. is this so bad? and yeah .. he has his own signature sound .. you hear a song and you can tell "that is feldmann production!" dont know if many producers can do that!
Story of the Year wanted to experiment with another producer and their second cd was completely FAILURE! now they got feldmann back .. you know why.. no need to say anything!
The Matches .. They worked with so many producers in Decomposer .. first single John Feldmanns Papercut Skin .. why to choose Feldmanns song as a first single and not Tim Armstrongs Lazier than a Furniture?
Atreyu chose feldmann .. now they have a platinum record! Escape the Fate got jealous .. and u know the story never ends ..! he is even responsible for the huge succes of Good Charlotte .. he co wrote their song Anthem which got them famous .. i think they should go back and co wrote with him 2-3 songs to make a good pop-punk come back cz their latest albums sucks.
If u have a band i m sure 100% u already said ur demo and got no answer .. and u come here to talk shit about him!
Dr. Acula
03/02/09, 07:31 PM
X-)
Justin_stacy
03/02/09, 10:22 PM
The lead singer of soty seemed to take a swipe at him the newest ap.
fadedmemories
03/03/09, 02:25 AM
The lead singer of soty seemed to take a swipe at him the newest ap.
Really? What did he say?
Liter-O-Cola
03/03/09, 07:21 AM
I don't think the singer of soty has any ground to take a swipe at anybody, especially John Feldman. Sure, Goldfinger has released some crap (Disconnection Notice...ugh) and has written his fair share of corny lyrics...but he has always done so in a tongue in cheek way. Anyone that sings "Until the day I die, I'll spill my heart for you" with complete sincerity needs to reconsider his career choice.
Justin_stacy
03/03/09, 08:40 AM
oh! i noticed that is "cool to hate" feldmann production here in AP ...! everyone says the same shit about the drum sound... go watch how he record drums ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-Nu7zueho ... i dont think he would waste so many hours with a real drummer just to use READYMADE SAMPLES in the end! Yeh he over compressed the sound but so what? Its more radio-friendly, more poppy, more accesible to everyone .. is this so bad? and yeah .. he has his own signature sound .. you hear a song and you can tell "that is feldmann production!" dont know if many producers can do that!
Story of the Year wanted to experiment with another producer and their second cd was completely FAILURE! now they got feldmann back .. you know why.. no need to say anything!
The Matches .. They worked with so many producers in Decomposer .. first single John Feldmanns Papercut Skin .. why to choose Feldmanns song as a first single and not Tim Armstrongs Lazier than a Furniture?
Atreyu chose feldmann .. now they have a platinum record! Escape the Fate got jealous .. and u know the story never ends ..! he is even responsible for the huge succes of Good Charlotte .. he co wrote their song Anthem which got them famous .. i think they should go back and co wrote with him 2-3 songs to make a good pop-punk come back cz their latest albums sucks.
If u have a band i m sure 100% u already said ur demo and got no answer .. and u come here to talk shit about him!
they do?
Justin_stacy
03/03/09, 08:48 AM
Really? What did he say?
the mags poll question of the month was: Does Fame Have An Age Limit?
Pyan Phillips of story of the year answered, "I actually don't think male or female musicians are judged any differently when it comes to age. If its pure and real, there is no age limit. But if a 38-year old is singing overproduced, plastic, teeny-bop songsabout high school, its a bit sad; it's obvious it's about the paycheck and has nothing to do with art.
The highlighted part seems to be a swipe at John given goldfingers current sound and John's age (41). The quote is also funny in that SOTY changed their sound to get semi-popular, but I bet the irony of that would be lost on Mr Phillips.
What do you think, Harmless quote, or back handed slap?
Shin Akuma
03/03/09, 08:59 AM
no they dont .. but i thought i ve read it somewhere .. "Lead Sails and a Paper Anchor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_Sails_and_a_Paper_Anchor) was released on August 28 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_28), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007), and debuted at number 8 on the Billboard 200 with first-week sales of 43,000 copies." Wikipedia ... Atreyu at No.8 on Billboard .. thats a succes on its own .. thanks to Feldmann production!
Shin Akuma
03/03/09, 09:03 AM
the mags poll question of the month was: Does Fame Have An Age Limit?
Pyan Phillips of story of the year answered,
The highlighted part seems to be a swipe at John given goldfingers current sound and John's age (41). The quote is also funny in that SOTY changed their sound to get semi-popular, but I bet the irony of that would be lost on Mr Phillips.
What do you think, Harmless quote, or back handed slap?
what an ungrateful bitch!
popdisaster00
03/03/09, 09:27 AM
I cant stand the way he makes drums sound on every record.
Exxxaactly. I actually purely hate this guy's production.
fadedmemories
03/03/09, 01:18 PM
the mags poll question of the month was: Does Fame Have An Age Limit?
Pyan Phillips of story of the year answered,
The highlighted part seems to be a swipe at John given goldfingers current sound and John's age (41). The quote is also funny in that SOTY changed their sound to get semi-popular, but I bet the irony of that would be lost on Mr Phillips.
What do you think, Harmless quote, or back handed slap?
haha I see.
Feldmann's production; while obnoxious and over done, it is highly entertaining. I listen to all of his songs with great intent, just to hear what he's done with them.
Listen to the song Earthquake on Lies for the Liars. Also, Smother me is a beautiful pop song.
WhoSaidThat?
04/21/09, 08:33 PM
Exxxaactly. I actually purely hate this guy's production.
And I purely love your avatar.
popdisaster00
04/22/09, 06:20 AM
And I purely love your avatar.
Haha thanks dude. You excited for the new Eminem too? I hope it's better than his last 2 cds.
ThisIsNotDan
04/22/09, 06:34 AM
not sure if this is due to production or mixing, but every cd I've heard that he's done just sounds so...clean and borderline electronic. the City Sleeps album that came out awhile back just doesn't even sound human
WhoSaidThat?
04/22/09, 11:45 AM
Haha thanks dude. You excited for the new Eminem too? I hope it's better than his last 2 cds.
I actually love The Eminem Show. But yeah, I hope it kicks ass.
not sure if this is due to production or mixing, but every cd I've heard that he's done just sounds so...clean and borderline electronic. the City Sleeps album that came out awhile back just doesn't even sound human
The songs on that CD are so horribly constructed. Also, it seems as if Feldmann decided to take a break while producing this one. Everything is just so uninteresting.
Chris Fallon
04/22/09, 03:29 PM
Haha thanks dude. You excited for the new Eminem too? I hope it's better than his last 2 cds.
I am also quoting to tell you I love your avatar.
ThisIsNotDan
04/22/09, 08:46 PM
The songs on that CD are so horribly constructed. Also, it seems as if Feldmann decided to take a break while producing this one. Everything is just so uninteresting.
it is as close to a "guilty pleasure" album as it gets for me. there are about 4-5 songs I adore but then the rest is ok. doesn't really sound human
I think his production worked pretty well with The Used especially on Lies for the Liars, but aside from that god damn everything he does is so freaking soulless and electronic sounding (in a bad way)
i've never really noticed his snare drum sound that you all seem to complain about so much, but for guitars (especially palm muted ones) it seriously sounds like he just takes a single palm mute and copy pastes it 400 times in a row instead of actually recording a set of them
it's offputtingly clean
I think his production worked pretty well with The Used especially on Lies for the Liars, but aside from that god damn everything he does is so freaking soulless and electronic sounding (in a bad way)
i've never really noticed his snare drum sound that you all seem to complain about so much, but for guitars (especially palm muted ones) it seriously sounds like he just takes a single palm mute and copy pastes it 400 times in a row instead of actually recording a set of them
it's offputtingly clean
I just don't understand how the man went from producing the self-titled album for the Used, to producing countless radio ready albums i.e., Lies for the Liars, Parts of Maybe Memories, the latest Escape The Fate record, and the As Cities Burn album aforementioned,
I will say this, there is a local band who go by: Josephine. They were originally a 7 piece band when signed to Warner. They were a Feldmann produced act. They went from a hardcore screamo scene sound to a "progressive"/POP sound - emphasis on the pop -. People were disjointed in Kansas (where I'm from) as what to make of all of this. I for one really didn't give a shit, as did most of my friends. I liked their album, while it does have that signature Feldmann sound, and at times, it sound blatantly artificial, It's still a great pop/rock album. One that unfortunatly went unnoticed by the public, yes this includes even the underground scene, the album and Josephines' sound is far too poppy for any indie kid.
To make a long story short, the once seven piece Pop band is now a hungry and unsigned quartet currently working on their next album in KC.
Give em a listen, tell your friends: http://www.myspace.com/josephinecollective
no i am not in this band.
it is as close to a "guilty pleasure" album as it gets for me. there are about 4-5 songs I adore but then the rest is ok. doesn't really sound human
Pretty much anything Feldmann produced circa 2005 is a guilty pleasure for me. lolz.
popdisaster00
04/23/09, 06:19 AM
I am also quoting to tell you I love your avatar.
:thumbup:
Pretty much anything Feldmann produced circa 2005 is a guilty pleasure for me. lolz.
Same.
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