Thrice Get A German Title

[Frank Giaramita]

Thrice (www.thricemusic.com) have titled their upcoming record, Vheissu. Below is an explanation from Dustin on the title..

“We have decided to name the new record, "Vheissu," and I will attempt to summarize why. The one thing we knew was that we wanted to have a one word title. I brought Vheissu to the table a long time ago because I had always thought it was a beautiful word, and it had no definite meaning in the book it is from (V by Thomas Pynchon, though that is not the word's origin), but was more a loose collection of myths. Something else that I think we all appreciated about the name, is that it is not loaded for most people. They will see it, or hear it, and it will not have any meaning right away, and therefore it can simply come to represent the songs on this record and to title them without coloring them, almost as a number would. But then beneath the surface, there are a a lot of interesting, if obscure, references to Vheissu in the book (and in critiques of the book) which could serve to inform aspects of the artwork, and create a general sense of mystery, which is something we all value I think. Below are some some of these references, but I will first talk about some of the meanings which we have extracted from them. One of the references speaks of Vheissu being a code name for Vesuvius, the volcano. Virgil cites Vesuvius as the entrance to the underworld, and in the book this is fleshed out and it is hinted at that there is a ancient race of people, who have access to underground tunnels that lead underneath all nations of the earth.

Riley noted how he felt that we are now (and always it seems) standing at the verging of many different tunnels or pathways that lead to completely different places. Riley named this phenomenon "Standing at Vheissu," which the more I think about seems to hold the same sentiment as Robert Frost's poem, "The Road Not Taken," but with the darker imagery of underground labyrinths (and who doesn't like underground labyrinths.) In the poem, the speaker chooses a path, and laments the knowledge that he will probably never be back at this point, to make a different decision, or to see where the other path led, but notes that his decision will have "made all the difference," though what difference no one will ever know. Two other ideas stuck out to me. One being that I see the tunnels underneath us all, as a metaphor for another reality that is quite close to us, but without our knowledge of it most of the time, ready at any moment to break though and interrupt our ideas of what reality is. A metaphor for the possibility or miracles in short. In the book it is said of the tunnels that "below the glittering integument of every foreign land there is a hard dead-point of truth."

Also I liked one critics etymological dissection of the word Vheissu when he says this. "If "Vheissu" encodes anything, it is a pun--"Wie heisst du?," which is German for "What is your name?" or "What are you called?" This seems appropriate since one of the themes developing in my lyrics for the record is the ways in which we define ourselves. I think a key to who we see ourselves as is names; both given and those we give ourselves, both domestic and other worldly. The ways in which we define ourselves and ultimately live are, I think, heavily influenced by the names we receive, and the names we give to others. Hopefully this sheds some light on the reasons for choosing Vheissu. Since we got it from print we really don't know if there is a correct way to say it, but we say it "vee-sue." There is a lot more out there to dig through if you want. Also, as a warning, the book "V" is very strange, and not a very fast read.

Love, Dustin

[DroppedUrPocket]

What's that mean?

EDIT - Damn you, Frank. Beat me to the punch.

[Jared Kaufman]

And I had enough trouble pronouncing Deja Entendu ...

[ArTkY_]

Awesome. Am I the only person who read the italicized stuff?

[FrancesdaMute]

i did too...why is eddie writing lyrics? i thought dustin was the lyrical master.

[last light]

its short for what is your name in some language...i forgot which one...i was just reading about yesterday, but im a tard :(

edit: it says in the post if you read it...its in german

[WakingTheMisery]

yay!

[Comandante]

This album is going to be amazing. The Spill Canvas have nothing on Thrice.

[VexRed0903]

Wheee~! Hyper.

[ReturningSunday]

i heart thrice

[LeftWideOpen]

this band never ceases to amaze me

[Letsfireitup]

I can't wait for new Thrice, it seems like it's been forever. Probably because it HAS been forever.

[Alex Djaferis]

i smell something fantastic.

[UrOwNdISaStR180]

Been waiting far too long for this one

[Jason Tate]

This album is going to be amazing. The Spill Canvas have nothing on Thrice.
When was the last time thrice wrote something that made you cry though? Heh.

[new_deal13]

I love that Thrice isn't just another band filled with generic idiots. no offence to any generic idiots.

[ATDIdakota]

Sounds like a masterpiece, can't wait for the upcoming tour as well.

[piebaldkid42]

cant wait

[CT-Tim]

When was the last time thrice wrote something that made you cry though? Heh.

In Years To Come?

Sorry, I didn't mean that to be a pun, haha.

i did too...why is eddie writing lyrics? i thought dustin was the lyrical master.

I was wondering the same.

[Comandante]

When was the last time thrice wrote something that made you cry though? Heh.

boys dont cry. :(

[projectmayhem16]

When was the last time thrice wrote something that made you cry though? Heh.The Artist In The Ambulance (song) has made me cry several times in the past, I'm not going to go into why but that song means a lot to me.

[Jason Tate]

In Years To Come?

Sorry, I didn't mean that to be a pun, haha.



I was wondering the same.
i hope dustin wrote most of it .. he's one of my favorite lyricists .. ever.

[illusion]

that means someone leaked it form the alliance chat yesterday. what a dick. thats only part of the information too!

[Jason Tate]

full information posted..

[poppa Q]

I love that Thrice isn't just another band filled with generic idiots. no offence to any generic idiots.
Ha.

[SLADE775]

Reading that made me wet..

and I seriously cant wait for this to come out.

and I still think the spill canvas will be really moving....but then again TATE cried during GIGLI!

[CT-Tim]

i hope dustin wrote most of it .. he's one of my favorite lyricists .. ever.

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. Dustin is my "hero" in the lyrics department.

So Strange I Remember You & In Years to Come are amazing.

edit...

Now it says Dustin explained it, that's reassuring now. No offense to Eddie or anything.

[aloneatlastnj]

The Artist In The Ambulance (song) has made me cry several times in the past, I'm not going to go into why but that song means a lot to me.


here, here man. the artist in the ambulance is an extremely touching song for me also.


i full heartedly agree with the person who said that the spill canvas has nothing on thrice.
:love:

[LPMagic]

Maybe I missed it somewhere along the line but...

How do you pronounce "Vheissu"?

- Jeff

[Jason Tate]

here, here man. the artist in the ambulance is an extremely touching song for me also.


i full heartedly agree with the person who said that the spill canvas has nothing on thrice.
:love:
I hear this is Thrice's version of "Kid A" or "Deja" or "Stay What You Are" - where their sound goes to a whole new level .. should be interesting to say the least.

[LeftWideOpen]

I hear this is Thrice's version of "Kid A" or "Deja" or "Stay What You Are" - where their sound goes to a whole new level .. should be interesting to say the least.

off-topic ..but Stay What You Are ....incredible.

And if Thrice can top The Illusion Of Safety, then they're about to take over the world.

[SLADE775]

I hear this is Thrice's version of "Kid A" or "Deja" or "Stay What You Are" - where their sound goes to a whole new level .. should be interesting to say the least.


I dont care what anyone says: Thrice will never top the song Deadbolts.

[hype]

'stare at the sun' and 'artist in the ambulance' hold close in my heart, i have a feeling this new album is gonna blow us away

[Jared Kaufman]

I dont care what anyone says: Thrice will never top the song Deadbolts.
"Trust" > "Deadbolts"

[SLADE775]

"Trust" > "Deadbolts"


you think so?

I dunno, the lyrics in deadbolts are perfect. THRICE Lyrically dominates.

[DroppedUrPocket]

"Trust" > "Deadbolts"

Both songs are great, but there's no way.

[punk shawn]

this is by far my most anticipated album of the year.

[DroppedUrPocket]

Reading that made me wet..

and I seriously cant wait for this to come out.

and I still think the spill canvas will be really moving....but then again TATE cried during GIGLI!

Gigli was so bad it made me cry.

[MidniteVulture]

Well I have no idea what was just said here, but I'm looking forward to this.

[Samuel]

so how do you pronounce that?

im a stupid hick from TN so forgive me

this album is gonna own all that is man

[hellosir]

read the info, it says how to pronounce it...

and this is just semantics really, but isnt the song "deadbolt" ?

[AreTwoKay]

I can't wait for this cd the new songs I heard live were amazing and I am loving the keyboards in some songs now

[ThreePagesAway]

At bamboozle they had the longest set ever imagined and they played 4 or 5 new songs and they were pure genious I actually can't wait for this record

[SLADE775]

we are the image of the invisable!!!!


DEADBOLT.....I put a S on there, so fuckin shoot me.

Gigli was so bad it made me cry.


you saw it huh...........WOW!!!!

(slips under the table and leaves)

[blink182baboon]

this is by far my most anticipated album of the year.
indeed. mine too.

[DroppedUrPocket]

you saw it huh...........WOW!!!!

(slips under the table and leaves)

:(

Christopher Walken!

[neo506]

I hear this is Thrice's version of "Kid A" or "Deja" or "Stay What You Are" - where their sound goes to a whole new level .. should be interesting to say the least.

I knew it'd be good when I read that they had a piece with piano that "moves like fur elise but uses a scale from a miles davis song"

:love:

[LeftWideOpen]

"Trust" > "Deadbolts"

I still don't think it gets any better than the guitar work at the very beginning of The Beltsville Crucible. Mind-blowing. Teppei is incredible.

[duffe]

i want to have this record in my hands.

[xearlynovemberx]

intresting name...but if they claled it shit in a fucking toilet id still buy it cuz thrice is amazing

[duffe]

intresting name...but if they claled it shit in a fucking toilet id still buy it cuz thrice is amazing
Hahaha.

[azlisa]

how do you pronounce that!?

[ACA]

I can't wait.

Thrice is one of the best bands playing and recording these days, and this shouldn't disappoint.

-ACA

[mrzippo3]

what is amazing and relevant to me most is that for the first time in reading all the forums, no one to my knowlege has said anything bad about thrice or a negative comment about them in this thread. For once i feel everyone is in agreement. that really makes me happy because this band is so incredible. I guess i'm not the only one in thinking that, so i smile. This is a happy thread and all you guys rock for loving Thrice. can't wait til warped and the fall tour

[agape]

1. There is no Thrice song called "Deadbolts."
2. Ed is not mentioned in the article.
3. Dustin writes all the lyrics.
4. This information was leaked to Absolutepunk.net and has yet to be announced on their official website. Shame on you!

Tony <3

[atticusfinch]

Sweet.

[Greg Dona]

i love thrice

[ForeverInADay]

"Trust" > "Deadbolt"
seriously, Jared? no way.

Deadbolt is fantastic. I just wish they'd bring it out of retirement.

Time to throw on the Illusion of Safety <3

[Cheddar]

That shit is DEEP.

[weworemasks]

I still don't think it gets any better than the guitar work at the very beginning of The Beltsville Crucible. Mind-blowing. Teppei is incredible.
:love:


this will be the greatest thing ive heard

[punkerx99]

1. There is no Thrice song called "Deadbolts."
2. Ed is not mentioned in the article.
3. Dustin writes all the lyrics.
4. This information was leaked to Absolutepunk.net and has yet to be announced on their official website. Shame on you!

Tony <3

Tony from the Thrice boards? I'm Ultrablue99.

Anyway, I'm not part of the Alliance, but I have posted on the messageboards for almost two years. This info was not meant to leak (apparently). Someone delete the news post.

[Jason Tate]

4. This information was leaked to Absolutepunk.net and has yet to be announced on their official website. Shame on you!

By their manager after the initial submited news thread.

And how are we supposed to know an album name isn't supposed to be posted. That wasn't our fault, but their manager rules all and sent us the full information for posting.

[innesHxC]

Tony from the Thrice boards? I'm Ultrablue99.

Anyway, I'm not part of the Alliance, but I have posted on the messageboards for almost two years. This info was not meant to leak (apparently). Someone delete the news post.
yup.

[xmelancholyx]

yup.

ugh this is annoying...

hey dave

[Jessethat1guy]

"Deadbolt" = "To Wake And Avenge The Dead">>>"Trust"

Haha. Actually. I love all Thrice songs. Every single one is good. Not one song I can complain about.

[mondeoman]

Oh that Dustin. Seriously tho, he's a very smart dude and therefore a very interesting title.

[murphy77]

i like the new title, its different but good

[finchfan313]

Oh that Dustin. Seriously tho, he's a very smart dude and therefore a very interesting title.
i agree. dustin = genuis. :love:

[Dob]

yeah big words or words in different languages are too confusing. i will never ever be able to spell this

[illusion]

yeah big words or words in different languages are too confusing. i will never ever be able to spell this


duuuuuuuuh.

[xmelancholyx]

4. This information was leaked to Absolutepunk.net and has yet to be announced on their official website. Shame on you!


it leaked right away... and then the info posted was wrong... wow.




.post.wizard.
here's the deal:

the information was supposed to be exclusive to the alliance, and a formal press release to the the general public was planned for later this week. one of the perks of the alliance is getting information before it is made public, which is why thrice shared this info with alliance members in the chat last night. unfortunately someone in the alliance leaked the info to AP.net this morning. to make things worse, the information posted on AP.net earlier today was from an incorrect source (it read that Ed gave the explanation and not Dustin), and included only about a third of the information that was shared in the chat last night. as a result, nick sent all of the info from the chat, and the correct source to Jason to clear things up.

hope that helps explain things.



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[Alex Djaferis]

When was the last time thrice wrote something that made you cry though? Heh.

thrice make me cry through sheer brilliance. no joke. when i first heard deadbolt i found music bliss. Thrice was for me from then on

i smell something fantastic.

lol that amount of scene point comments i got from this was great. thanks guys.

and a big sidenote. im xkaploinkx on the thrice message board but i hate it there. bunch of elitists who think they are open minded and chilled out. pfff.

[drive-thru]

that's amazing... and deep

[AShannon04]

Also I liked one critics etymological dissection of the word Vheissu when he says this. "If "Vheissu" encodes anything, it is a pun--"Wie heisst du?," which is German for "What is your name?" or "What are you called?"

yeah, that's the first thing that came to my head when I read the new title. I figured they just made it into one word for a more artistic title

[screamoutmyname]

its short for what is your name in some language...i forgot which one...i was just reading about yesterday, but im a tard :(

edit: it says in the post if you read it...its in german
in the title it says thrice get a german title...

and wie heisst du is "what is your name" ... is this the abbreviated version or something?