TWLOHA (Inspiring)

[anbermore]

To Write Love On Her Arms I decided to make a post about TWLOHA why simply because musicians and bands like Paramore,Anberlin,UnderOath, and more support them, because it is inspiring the story of Renee believe me I`m not trying to how do you say...??? um advertise them in a bad way to tell you the truth I`m
not even at all trying or is trying to advertise TWLOHA. I`m just posting this because who knows mabe some peoples lives have been change because of them or it really inspires you. I`m posting this to let people have a chance to be heard what ever you think about TWLOHA and why you love the story, I love the story because it is inspiring and also I think it is an amazing story, and I`m not posting this for negativity like some people say bad thing about TWLOHA...... but why ?? Why, would somebody say something like "Oh I`m sick of TWLOHA" and way more horribles thing about TWLOHA why say that because TWLOHA has changed alot of people`s live or just one but Renee who knows but just saving one persons life to me is worth alot even if you don`t know the person. So okay now that I`ve got that off my chest This thread is for people to say what they want and what they think about TWLOHA (and not in a negative or distgusting way) possitivity, also for inspiring stories, lyrics, or things ( oh and books) because it inspires you, now your probably thinking why would I put this in the music section?? Well because I think it belongs here and I know that there is proobably going to be dumbass people that are ganna say shit but they can think what they think but overall this thread is for things (music)that INSPIRE you and I titled it TWLOHA because that is what inspires me.
thanx!! - lots of love - anbermore


my inspiring book ............

Twilight - why??- because it inspires me to find my love- also its an awesome book!

my inspiring lyrics ..................

There are a million lyrics that I think are inspiring but what that I just pulled out of my head right now is... Paramore - We Are Broken......................

I am outside
And I've been waiting for the sun
And with my wide eyes
I've seen worlds that don't belong
My mouth is dry with words I cannot verbalize
Tell me why we live like this

Keep me safe inside
Your arms like towers
Tower over me

Yeah
Cause we are broken
What must we do to restore
Our innocence
And oh the promise we adored
Give us life again cause we just wanna be whole

Lock the doors
Cause I'd like to capture this voice
That came to me tonight
So everyone will have a choice
And under red lights
I'll show myself it wasn't forged
We're at war
We live like this

Keep me safe inside
Your arms like towers
Tower over me

Cause we are broken
What must we do to restore
Our innocence
And oh the promise we adored
Give us life again cause we just wanna be whole

Tower over me
Tower over me

And I'll take the truth at any cost

Cause we are broken
What must we do to restore
Our innocence
And oh the promise we adored
Give us life again cause we just wanna be whole

[TheOtherAndrew]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/journal.php?do=addentry&j=3415

[AP_Punk]

hey renee, she's talking about you!

[llwilliamsll]

Maybe if we don't reply or anything, she'll go away...

[googirl8907]

hey renee, she's talking about you!
lolwut?

[Getup and Dance]

I doubt it

[robat19]

she saw god too!

[summer skin]

To Smear Vans On The Highway

[sputniksignals]

Maybe if we don't reply or anything, she'll go away...
Like a T-Rex!
http://www.lostintheplot.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/jurassic_park.jpg

[thespearkid]

Someone who loves God so much yet dabbles in the occult (albeit, a water-down version of the occult) by way of Twlight. When you end up in Hell, maybe the irony will be comfort enough to last you your eternity of punishment... if God even exists.

[robat19]

stop being so emo

[luckyforsome]

Oh

[heyzombiehitler]

im glad to see someone support something so strongly because their favorite bands do.

[xxemo_kittyxx]

Twilight is more of a feel-good kind of book but I don't see how it could be inspiring.

[AlternaScene]

To Write Love On Her Arms I decided to make a post about TWLOHA why simply because musicians and bands like Paramore,Anberlin,UnderOath, and more support them, because it is inspiring the story of Renee believe me I`m not trying to how do you say...??? um advertise them in a bad way to tell you the truth I`m
not even at all trying or is trying to advertise TWLOHA. I`m just posting this because who knows mabe some peoples lives have been change because of them or it really inspires you. I`m posting this to let people have a chance to be heard what ever you think about TWLOHA and why you love the story, I love the story because it is inspiring and also I think it is an amazing story, and I`m not posting this for negativity like some people say bad thing about TWLOHA...... but why ?? Why, would somebody say something like "Oh I`m sick of TWLOHA" and way more horribles thing about TWLOHA why say that because TWLOHA has changed alot of people`s live or just one but Renee who knows but just saving one persons life to me is worth alot even if you don`t know the person. So okay now that I`ve got that off my chest This thread is for people to say what they want and what they think about TWLOHA (and not in a negative or distgusting way) possitivity, also for inspiring stories, lyrics, or things ( oh and books) because it inspires you, now your probably thinking why would I put this in the music section?? Well because I think it belongs here and I know that there is proobably going to be dumbass people that are ganna say shit but they can think what they think but overall this thread is for things (music)that INSPIRE you and I titled it TWLOHA because that is what inspires me.
thanx!! - lots of love - anbermore


my inspiring book ............

Twilight - why??- because it inspires me to find my love- also its an awesome book!

my inspiring lyrics ..................

There are a million lyrics that I think are inspiring but what that I just pulled out of my head right now is... Paramore - We Are Broken......................

I am outside
And I've been waiting for the sun
And with my wide eyes
I've seen worlds that don't belong
My mouth is dry with words I cannot verbalize
Tell me why we live like this

Keep me safe inside
Your arms like towers
Tower over me

Yeah
Cause we are broken
What must we do to restore
Our innocence
And oh the promise we adored
Give us life again cause we just wanna be whole

Lock the doors
Cause I'd like to capture this voice
That came to me tonight
So everyone will have a choice
And under red lights
I'll show myself it wasn't forged
We're at war
We live like this

Keep me safe inside
Your arms like towers
Tower over me

Cause we are broken
What must we do to restore
Our innocence
And oh the promise we adored
Give us life again cause we just wanna be whole

Tower over me
Tower over me

And I'll take the truth at any cost

Cause we are broken
What must we do to restore
Our innocence
And oh the promise we adored
Give us life again cause we just wanna be whole
I love twloha 2

Twilight has some inspiring parts i Guess but its just an all around amazing book :D

and your lyrics :D PARAMORE BABY :D ha love them

[talkingbird]

im glad to see someone support something so strongly because their favorite bands do.

agreed

[11:11]

im glad to see someone support something so strongly because their favorite bands do.
If Hayley jumps off a bridge, do you think she'll follow?

[harveymonster]

:wallbash:

[RamInGoreville]

I love twloha 2

Twilight has some inspiring parts i Guess but its just an all around amazing book :D

and your lyrics :D PARAMORE BABY :D ha love them

I just threw up.

[harveymonster]

Paramore Baby!

[robat19]

Paramore Baby!

:punk:

[AlternaScene]

I just threw up.
what how do you hate
1.paramore
2.twilight
3.me
I'll tell you how
you don't :D ha

[RamInGoreville]

what how do you hate
1.paramore
2.twilight
3.me
I'll tell you how
you don't :D ha

Please die.

[AlternaScene]

Please die.
you first then you can tell me how it goes
and I'll decide after you tell me

[RamInGoreville]

you first then you can tell me how it goes
and I'll decide after you tell me

lolwut??

[AlternaScene]

lolwut??
.....it all kinda got jumbled up in my head

[hockeyguitar99]

I love twloha 2

Twilight has some inspiring parts i Guess but its just an all around amazing book :D

and your lyrics :D PARAMORE BABY :D ha love them

what how do you hate
1.paramore
2.twilight
3.me
I'll tell you how
you don't :D ha

Paramore: Generic, boring, people like you like them
Twilight: Stupid, stupid, stupid, people like you like it
You: You like the above things.

There, now you can leave.

[AlternaScene]

Paramore: Generic, boring, people like you like them
Twilight: Stupid, stupid, stupid, people like you like it
You: You like the above things.

There, now you can leave.
um no
Paramore awesomeness better than probably the pop crap you like
twilight amazing book I'd like to see you try to be a good crative writer
and well as for me again with the amazing awesomeness

maybe you should leave sweety

[hockeyguitar99]

um no
Paramore awesomeness better than probably the pop crap you like
twilight amazing book I'd like to see you try to be a good crative writer
and well as for me again with the amazing awesomeness

maybe you should leave sweety


Wait... wait... wait...

Did a Paramore fan just throw around the term "pop crap"? Fucking lol.

Maybe you should look at my favorite bands "sweetie".

I sit behind Stephanie Meyer's cousin in Bio (swt bragz), and he says that even she hates the books.

And you, well, I think I've already covered that.

[RamInGoreville]

Wait... wait... wait...

Did a Paramore fan just throw around the term "pop crap"? Fucking lol.

Maybe you should look at my favorite bands "sweetie".

I sit behind Stephanie Meyer's cousin in Bio (swt bragz), and he says that even she hates the books.

And you, well, I think I've already covered that.

Lol @ the pop crap.

Win on all levels.

[AlternaScene]

Wait... wait... wait...

Did a Paramore fan just throw around the term "pop crap"? Fucking lol.

Maybe you should look at my favorite bands "sweetie".

I sit behind Stephanie Meyer's cousin in Bio (swt bragz), and he says that even she hates the books.

And you, well, I think I've already covered that.
I really could care less who you sit behind in Bio dear I've read alot of book I mean ALOT and the Twilight series was really good not the best but Really good what does her cousin have to do with YOUR writing skills

Paramore= not pop crap I don't know how you describe pop crap but I'm talkin Main stream the crap you like paramore might have 2 mainstream songs I'm talkin fall out boy pop crap

and me SWEETY you don't even know me

[hockeyguitar99]

I really could care less who you sit behind in Bio dear I've read alot of book I mean ALOT and the Twilight series was really good not the best but Really good what does her cousin have to do with YOUR writing skills

Paramore= not pop crap I don't know how you describe pop crap but I'm talkin Main stream the crap you like paramore might have 2 mainstream songs I'm talkin fall out boy pop crap

and me SWEETY you don't even know me

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HOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHIT.

I'm a review writer, people send me their CDs for free to express my opinion, so I'm obviously a better writer than at least a good number of people.

Fall Out Boy are mainstream, yes, but they are also good. They write songs that are far more diverse than anything Paramore has done, plus, Paramore would be no where without Fall Out Boy, so I'd be careful about insulting them if I were you. Also, Paramore are EXTRMELEY popular. Every teenage girls knows who they are. And even if I listen to Fall Out Boy, they'd be the only thing I listen to that could qualify as that. Again, check my favorite bands.

Also, it's spelled sweetie, that's the correct way, don't be more of a fucking dumbass. And I will thank god everyday that I don't know you. You seem like a huge idiot.

[hockeyguitar99]

Lol @ the pop crap.

Win on all levels.

haha thanks. I have to take care of this bitch.

[RamInGoreville]

haha thanks. I have to take care of this bitch.

I know, you are gonna need a lot of help though.

It's a shame what these forums have become.

[hockeyguitar99]

I know, you are gonna need a lot of help though.

It's a shame what these forums have become.

that one PUNK-ROCK-GRRL with the multi-colored fonts needs to stop, this AlternaScene chick, and AnberMore. Just lol.

[RamInGoreville]

that one PUNK-ROCK-GRRL with the multi-colored fonts needs to stop, this AlternaScene chick, and AnberMore. Just lol.

Haha I know right, and this is just one night!

[AlternaScene]

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HOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHIT.

I'm a review writer, people send me their CDs for free to express my opinion, so I'm obviously a better writer than at least a good number of people.

Fall Out Boy are mainstream, yes, but they are also good. They write songs that are far more diverse than anything Paramore has done, plus, Paramore would be no where without Fall Out Boy, so I'd be careful about insulting them if I were you. Also, Paramore are EXTRMELEY popular. Every teenage girls knows who they are. And even if I listen to Fall Out Boy, they'd be the only thing I listen to that could qualify as that. Again, check my favorite bands.

Also, it's spelled sweetie, that's the correct way, don't be more of a fucking dumbass. And I will thank god everyday that I don't know you. You seem like a huge idiot.
Your in Highschool SWEETY the only people you write better than are middle schoolers

Fall out Boy is a sell out they used to be good then they started singing about crap that you kids wanted to hear about oh my hearts broken oh i SUCK AT LIFE

ha idiot which is proof you dont know me thank the lord you underclassmen always think you know something
try not to suck at life

i know how to spell i was taking spellin class before you were born

take that from the "Bitch"

fuckin anal douche

[Ouch]

i haven't been on this forum consistently for months, but it's good to be back laughin' at these foos.

[RamInGoreville]

Your in Highschool SWEETY the only people you write better than are middle schoolers

Fall out Boy is a sell out they used to be good then they started singing about crap that you kids wanted to hear about oh my hearts broken oh i SUCK AT LIFE

ha idiot which is proof you dont know me thank the lord you underclassmen always think you know something
try not to suck at life

i know how to spell i was taking spellin class before you were born

take that from the "Bitch"

fuckin anal douche

You could say the EXACT same thing about Paramore in every way.

[RamInGoreville]

i haven't been on this forum consistently for months, but it's good to be back laughin' at these foos.

Haha I advise you to not be on consistently, it's getting worse every day.

[hockeyguitar99]

Your in Highschool SWEETY the only people you write better than are middle schoolers

Fall out Boy is a sell out they used to be good then they started singing about crap that you kids wanted to hear about oh my hearts broken oh i SUCK AT LIFE

ha idiot which is proof you dont know me thank the lord you underclassmen always think you know something
try not to suck at life

i know how to spell i was taking spellin class before you were born

take that from the "Bitch"

fuckin anal douche

Right, Atlantic Records doesn't send you free stuff to review, do they? So that's proven.

Sweetie, that's the way it's spelled, check dictionary.com, or any functioning word processor.

And you can say FOB sold out, except Paramore have always made generic bull shit that was meant solely for mass appeal, so they've always been sell outs, who recorded a song JUST FOR A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE. If that's not a cash grab, I don't know what is.

Take that from the "fuckin' anal douche"

[harveymonster]

AlternaScene, please leave, you're making my cry.

[hockeyguitar99]

Haha I know right, and this is just one night!

You could say the EXACT same thing about Paramore in every way.

This is too much fun.

[hockeyguitar99]

I think we should start a coalition for the immediate removal/against AlternaScene. We would have enough supporters.

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene, please leave, you're making my cry.

AlternaScene: Why we can't have nice things

[harveymonster]

who recorded a song JUST FOR A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE.
you're right except I'm pretty sure they wrote Decode before the movie came out and decided it sounded like Twilight. I'm not positive though.

[RamInGoreville]

I think we should start a coalition for the immediate removal/against AlternaScene. We would have enough supporters.

I'm in. We need an official AP petition to get all users like this out of here. Although, maybe not because it is entertaining at times. But the frustration kills me.

[hockeyguitar99]

you're right except I'm pretty sure they wrote Decode before the movie came out and decided it sounded like Twilight. I'm not positive though.

Even if they did, they released and sold it using the movie as promotion. Total sell outs.

In all honesty, I don't believe in calling bands "sell outs", but I'm countering her argument with a better one

[mmmmontana]

how did this thread turn into a smack-down between hockeyguitar and alternascene... im confused.

[hockeyguitar99]

I'm in. We need an official AP petition to get all users like this out of here. Although, maybe not because it is entertaining at times. But the frustration kills me.

Someone should make a thread, maybe we can bully her out of here, but that's kind of terrible, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

[hockeyguitar99]

how did this thread turn into a smack-down between hockeyguitar and alternascene... im confused.

Because she's an idiot and I called her out, then she was all like HELL NO, and now I'm kicking her ass.

[mmmmontana]

Because she's an idiot and I called her out, then she was all like HELL NO, and now I'm kicking her ass.

oh ok, well, carry on.

[AlternaScene]

Right, Atlantic Records doesn't send you free stuff to review, do they? So that's proven.

Sweetie, that's the way it's spelled, check dictionary.com, or any functioning word processor.

And you can say FOB sold out, except Paramore have always made generic bull shit that was meant solely for mass appeal, so they've always been sell outs, who recorded a song JUST FOR A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE. If that's not a cash grab, I don't know what is.

Take that from the "fuckin' anal douche"
ever listen to paramore's stuff before riot obviously not
no one knew who they were before riot thats when all the little preps started listening to them
atlantic records is full of epic fails unless they are going for generic pop crap that preps and kids like
which seems to be a home run for sell outs

one record that is on the charts is nothing compared to the few that fob has had

which in turns makes them an epic fail

i know how to spell sweety But I'll spell it the way i want to b/c you obviously know what I'm talkin about

[AlternaScene]

oh ok, well, carry on.
by ass kicking he means epic failing

[hockeyguitar99]

oh ok, well, carry on.

I think she gave up, I hope so, she's annoying. The Format FTW, by the way.

[RamInGoreville]

ever listen to paramore's stuff before riot obviously not
no one knew who they were before riot thats when all the little preps started listening to them
atlantic records is full of epic fails unless they are going for generic pop crap that preps and kids like
which seems to be a home run for sell outs

one record that is on the charts is nothing compared to the few that fob has had

which in turns makes them an epic fail

i know how to spell sweety But I'll spell it the way i want to b/c you obviously know what I'm talkin about

You just admitted that Riot! made them what you are calling "pop"

Way to pwn yourself.

[harveymonster]

Even if they did, they released and sold it using the movie as promotion. Total sell outs.

In all honesty, I don't believe in calling bands "sell outs", but I'm countering her argument with a better one
Yea I agree. No matter when they wrote it they still used it for a movie. And I'm totally with you on calling bands "sell outs". I think it's really overused, but yea, using a song for a movie is selling out.
Who the fuck cares about Paramore anyway

[hockeyguitar99]

ever listen to paramore's stuff before riot obviously not
no one knew who they were before riot thats when all the little preps started listening to them
atlantic records is full of epic fails unless they are going for generic pop crap that preps and kids like
which seems to be a home run for sell outs

one record that is on the charts is nothing compared to the few that fob has had

which in turns makes them an epic fail

i know how to spell sweety But I'll spell it the way i want to b/c you obviously know what I'm talkin about


Haha, I actually owned both of their records, realized they sucked, and sold them to some poor unfortunate soul. Both of their records sounds the same, so listening to one is like listening to both. And your so goddamn stupid for thinking that popularity makes a band bad, You obviously have no idea what your talking about.

And so "sweety went from the correct spelling to the way YOU spell it, sweet. Glad to see you stick to your arguments.

[harveymonster]

ever listen to paramore's stuff before riot obviously not
no one knew who they were before riot thats when all the little preps started listening to them
atlantic records is full of epic fails unless they are going for generic pop crap that preps and kids like
which seems to be a home run for sell outs

one record that is on the charts is nothing compared to the few that fob has had

which in turns makes them an epic fail

i know how to spell sweety But I'll spell it the way i want to b/c you obviously know what I'm talkin about
Epic fail, epic fail, epic fail. Someones been on the Internets too much. Do your homework.

[hockeyguitar99]

Yea I agree. No matter when they wrote it they still used it for a movie. And I'm totally with you on calling bands "sell outs". I think it's really overused, but yea, using a song for a movie is selling out.
Who the fuck cares about Paramore anyway

Apparently AlternaScene does.

I think I might start quoting every post she has saying "You're why we can't have nice things".

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene: Internetz gone wrong

[harveymonster]

AlternaScene: Internetz gone wrong
:rotfl:

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene: The reason babies cry

[AlternaScene]

1. your taste in music obviously sucks b/c i too own both cd's and like the 1st one more

not popularity makin it bad singin about what the media wants and not what you want thats what makes a band bad

and i never said i spelled sweety the right way
but i do spell it my wan and no little kid is going to make me change my way of spelling it because your not my teacher and this isnt a paper for you so go to bed little kid because I'm tired of hearing your crap

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene: Spells things her way

[AlternaScene]

btw
1 i hate kids of all shapes and sizes
and
2 i do, do my hw im in ap classes which ismore than i can say for some of you kids

[RamInGoreville]

1. your taste in music obviously sucks b/c i too own both cd's and like the 1st one more

not popularity makin it bad singin about what the media wants and not what you want thats what makes a band bad

and i never said i spelled sweety the right way
but i do spell it my wan and no little kid is going to make me change my way of spelling it because your not my teacher and this isnt a paper for you so go to bed little kid because I'm tired of hearing your crap

I can't even understand those first 2 lines.

Speak fucking english or GTFO.

[harveymonster]

btw
1 i hate kids of all shapes and sizes
and
2 i do, do my hw im in ap classes which ismore than i can say for some of you kids
Obviously you're lying because I'm sure an honors student would know how to spell "sweetie" and spell out because. And know when to GTFO.

[hockeyguitar99]

1. your taste in music obviously sucks b/c i too own both cd's and like the 1st one more

not popularity makin it bad singin about what the media wants and not what you want thats what makes a band bad

and i never said i spelled sweety the right way
but i do spell it my wan and no little kid is going to make me change my way of spelling it because your not my teacher and this isnt a paper for you so go to bed little kid because I'm tired of hearing your crap

Hahahaa, okay. Whatever you say. Go listen to Paramore.

Paramore sing about the same, boring, generic, manufactured bull shit as all other pop-punk bands, so I guess they're sell outs.

And I know, you spell things your way, thtz ttly punx, I get it.

And I like how you pick on me for my age, yet you don't display yours, you're probably 6.

[RamInGoreville]

Let me try one.

AlternaScene: 1. I like really shitty music 2. I'd go gay for Hayley cuz shes so uberr HAWTT

[Ouch]

btw
1 i hate kids of all shapes and sizes
and
2 i do, do my hw im in ap classes which ismore than i can say for some of you kids

man anyone can get into AP classes nowadays.

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene: Actually George Bush

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene: I like Paramore, you're inferior (except AlternaScene spells things her way, so probably Inferyor)

[Ouch]

http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal1/orly_bush.jpg

[RamInGoreville]

AlternaScene: Actually George Bush

Hahaha.

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene: Kills Pandas.

[harveymonster]

AlternaScene: Actually Haley.

[hockeyguitar99]

Hahaha.

I can't believe I've gone so long since posting in the music forum. All the ignorant shits are here, its loads of fun.

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene: Actually Haley.

So..

Hayley: Actually George Bush.

OH. MY. GOD.

[RamInGoreville]

So..

Hayley: Actually George Bush.

OH MY GOD.

This is fucking crazy.

Btw, has she not noticed that there's a Paramore thread that she could suck Hayley's cock in?

[harveymonster]

This is fucking crazy.

Btw, has she not noticed that there's a Paramore thread that she could suck Hayley's cock in?
mind=blown.

[hockeyguitar99]

This is fucking crazy.

Btw, has she not noticed that there's a Paramore thread that she could suck Hayley's cock in?

Haha maybe. I'd hate to take out the Paramore thread though, because not all Paramore fans are ignorant shits.

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene: Epic Fail

[hockeyguitar99]

AlternaScene: I combine words good.

[RamInGoreville]

Haha maybe. I'd hate to take out the Paramore thread though, because not all Paramore fans are ignorant shits.

This is true. I found Paramore's music decent anyways haha. Just not when someone thinks that they're basically God.

[hockeyguitar99]

This is true. I found Paramore's music decent anyways haha. Just not when someone thinks that they're basically God.

That wouldn't be good, because then our discoveries would show:

AlternaScene = George Bush = Hayley = God

OH. HELL. NO.

[Ouch]

you forgot this:

http://www.ratemyeverything.net/image/6134/0/Epic_Fail.ashx

[RamInGoreville]

That wouldn't be good, because then our discoveries would show:

AlternaScene = George Bush = Hayley = God

OH. HELL. NO.

Not gonna fly..

Btw you are being added to friends so we can stop further Paramore/others debauchery in the future.

[RamInGoreville]

you forgot this:

http://www.ratemyeverything.net/image/6134/0/Epic_Fail.ashx

Woo now everyone will know of Hayley's/AlternaScene's/Bush's epic fail.

[Ouch]

it's real offical *****.

[hockeyguitar99]

I went ahead and warned those in the Paramore thread, hopefully they take my warning as seriously as it needs to be.

[hockeyguitar99]

Not gonna fly..

Btw you are being added to friends so we can stop further Paramore/others debauchery in the future.

Added.

And what happened to AlternaScene, did she leave?

[RamInGoreville]

I went ahead and warned those in the Paramore thread, hopefully they take my warning as seriously as it needs to be.

Haha they better stay within their own thread or caps will be busted.

[googirl8907]

:-d

[hockeyguitar99]

Haha they better stay within their own thread or caps will be busted.

As long as they aren't obnoxious and terrible, I don't care. If they're obnoxious and terrible, then yes, it's cap busting time.

[Ouch]

hos jammin they toes need not be aloud.

[RamInGoreville]

As long as they aren't obnoxious and terrible, I don't care. If they're obnoxious and terrible, then yes, it's cap busting time.

Haha oh shit, I just looked inside their realm and they are discussing her latest hairstyle. I definitely don't want any of that out here. Stay back Paramore(ers?)

[hockeyguitar99]

Haha oh shit, I just looked inside their realm and they are discussing her latest hairstyle. I definitely don't want any of that out here. Stay back Paramore(ers?)

yeah, I saw that, and it looks like they signed up to do so, all under 100 posts. Maybe it's that terrible new ad AP has. Something along the lines of "Want to gossip about Paramore, come to the forums!".

Dear god.

[RamInGoreville]

yeah, I saw that, and it looks like they signed up to do so, all under 100 posts. Maybe it's that terrible new ad AP has. Something along the lines of "Want to gossip about Paramore, come to the forums!".

Dear god.

Ew. But whatever, anything beats whenever you get on the homepage and that song comes on "You're wicked, got me twisted. Something something addicted."

Stupid stupid.

[oldy]

Wow, how many shitty internet cliches can you stuff into one thread? AlternaScene might be annoying, but hockeyguitar is a far crappier poster.

[heyzombiehitler]

Crussshhhhhhhhhhh........crusssssss hhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[RamInGoreville]

Wow, how many shitty internet cliches can you stuff into one thread? AlternaScene might be annoying, but hockeyguitar is a far crappier poster.

Eh I'd say it was for her own good.

[heyzombiehitler]

I think there's a faker here.

[silentstar1134]

I waiting for the thread lock lol

[RamInGoreville]

This really was an inspiring thread after all.

[hockeyguitar99]

Wow, how many shitty internet cliches can you stuff into one thread? AlternaScene might be annoying, but hockeyguitar is a far crappier poster.

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Nice avatar by the way.

[silentstar1134]

congats, yall just wasted 10 min of my life haha....This seems like a freshman in high school argument and I'm just waiting to hear something creative and not "your suck because you like shitty music and you are annoying" and vise versa.

[RamInGoreville]

congats, yall just wasted 10 min of my life haha....This seems like a freshman in high school argument and I'm just waiting to hear something creative and not "your suck because you like shitty music and you are annoying" and vise versa.

your suck because you like shitty music and you are annoying.

[silentstar1134]

your suck because you like shitty music and you are annoying.

lol nice comeback kid...you get into high school yet? or still in middle school?

[RamInGoreville]

lol nice comeback kid...you get into high school yet? or still in middle school?

Ha yeah because you're so mature right? OMG LOL

LOL LOL LOL

[silentstar1134]

Ha yeah because you're so mature right? OMG LOL

LOL LOL LOL

...my point exactly. I would rather not go as low as to argue with you. Its a waste of my time. Show me something "creative and witty" and ill come back to you little boy.

[RamInGoreville]

...my point exactly. I would rather not go as low as to argue with you. Its a waste of my time. Show me something "creative and witty" and ill come back to you little boy.

You've seen two fucking posts from me..you have absolutely no idea what I am like. And you don't want to argue? You're the one who started shit my friend.

Why don't you give me something creative? Get a fuckin' life.

[silentstar1134]

You've seen two fucking posts from me..you have absolutely no idea what I am like. And you don't want to argue? You're the one who started shit my friend.

Why don't you give me something creative? Get a fuckin' life.

Thats funny because when I said "talks about how someones music sucks and vice versa" you took that as a direct insult. And before I log off so you talk soooo much shit about me, i'm going to go live my life and not sit here and argue with you on this this thread. So go ahead baby boy fire away.

[RamInGoreville]

Thats funny because when I said "talks about how someones music sucks and vice versa" you took that as a direct insult. And before I log off so you talk soooo much shit about me, i'm going to go live my life and not sit here and argue with you on this this thread. So go ahead baby boy fire away.

I didn't take it as an insult, all I did was mock you because I was bored, and you got all defensive.

And oh yeah you must be soo cool to be able to go out and live life, because I mean there's so much shit to do on Christmas Eve right?

You really sound so cool, it worked. Happy?

Merry Christmas.

[Ouch]

lol arguements insue.

and I remain where I am:

The winner.

[RamInGoreville]

lol arguements insue.

and I remain where I am:

The winner.

Ouch > All.

How do you do it?

[Ouch]

jacking off in threads = big no no unless its funny

cat lol photos = very funny

Ouch = winner

[RamInGoreville]

jacking off in threads = big no no unless its funny

cat lol photos = very funny

Ouch = winner

It makes so much sense now.

[underthetalking]

Every so often a thread comes along that makes me wonder why I keep coming back to this stupid website.

This is one such thread.

[hockeyguitar99]

Every so often a thread comes along that makes me wonder why I keep coming back to this stupid website.

This is one such thread.

They do the same for me, except I'm normally a part of them, so I guess that makes me a hypocrite.

[heyzombiehitler]

i just read this. it's very moving, and i would totally give money if i had some. i know for sure that i'm going to buy a shirt when i go to hot topic monday.

R u 4 realz?

[Ouch]

lol hot topic.

[thesafeword]

I wish I thought this up, I mean, is there any better way to cash in on needy teenagers looking to fit in with other needy teenagers?

[karlwithak]

I absolutely love TWLOHA. Its a group my girlfriend supports and wants to help with because she knows the pain and what its like to go through it. Jesus has changed her life and now she wants to take her past pain to help others that are going through what she is. TWLOHA is a great wayto help people in pain. They are honest and don't sugar coat things. Thanks for posting about it and God bless TWLOHA

[karlwithak]

I wish I thought this up, I mean, is there any better way to cash in on needy teenagers looking to fit in with other needy teenagers?

Really? REALLY? Got any proof of this? Would love to see it

[thesafeword]

It's so scene kids can feel good about themselves and fit in.

[viva la cymche!]

I absolutely love TWLOHA. Its a group my girlfriend supports and wants to help with because she knows the pain and what its like to go through it. Jesus has changed her life and now she wants to take her past pain to help others that are going through what she is. TWLOHA is a great wayto help people in pain. They are honest and don't sugar coat things. Thanks for posting about it and God bless TWLOHA lulz, jesus isnt real lulz

[thesafeword]

Cutting is a cry for attention and To Write Love on Her Arms gives you that attention.

[viva la cymche!]

Cutting is a cry for attention and To Write Love on Her Arms gives you that attention. QpFwZ0D2PNY

[karlwithak]

lulz, jesus isnt real lulz
Yeah He is. History proves He is real. Even atheists admit He was a real person.

[karlwithak]

Cutting is a cry for attention and To Write Love on Her Arms gives you that attention.
Its a way they deal with pain. Its not a cry for attention, they need help. Why do people think its funny that people cut, attempt suicide, are addicted to various things, abused, etc? Don't any of you that criticize this organization have hearts and love for those who are in pain?

[piglet]

He was a real person, but he had no divine powers whatsoever.

edit - on topic: I'm a sufferer of mental illness, depression and a former "cutter", multiple suicide attempts and a history of drug abuse to numb to pain, so to say.

Regardless of how much attention this gets in the "scene", it still is a great cause and can give people hope, however they choose to take it. Who cares if a few bands with fringes and v-neck shirts take interest in an organisation that raises awareness of depression, drug abuse, suicide and mutilation? They're well and good for seeing it as it is.

So here's an idea bud, stop debating about Jesus, religion or whatever crawled up your ass. This is a good cause.

[piglet]

Your evidence for this is?



I'm a firm believer in people should solve their own problems. Everyone always want to someone to blame and to feel like a victim. People should look after themselves.


a) Some documentary on the History Channel.

b) I got to the stage where i weighed ~40kg, i have scars from where i tried to rip my spine out. I never asked for pity or sympathy. I ended up asking for help.

[viva la cymche!]

a) Some documentary on the History Channel.

b) I got to the stage where i weighed ~40kg, i have scars from where i tried to rip my spine out. I never asked for pity or sympathy. I ended up asking for help. That's no ones fault but your own. I have zero pity for you, people like you or the people that TWLOHA "helps". If you really hate your life, then fucking kill yourself, don't cut yourself as a silent scream for help.

It's annyoing is shit seeing douchebags wearing those [TWLOHA] fucking shirts, because instead of supporting a real organization that helps people that are actually in need, they support one that will give the major scene points, because fucking Hayley Williams and Anberlin support it.

[turncoat93]

That's no ones fault but your own. I have zero pity for you, people like you or the people that TWLOHA "helps". If you really hate your life, then fucking kill yourself, don't cut yourself as a silent scream for help. It's annyoing is shit seeing douchebags wearing those fucking shirts, because instead of supporting a real organization that helps people that are actually in need, they support one that will give the major scene points, because fucking Hayley Williams and Anberlin support it.

I agree to an extent that people should help themselves, but this takes it way to far. I understand hating what has become a scene trend but tellling her if she hates her life to "fucking kill herself"? Thats totally indecent and uncalled for. Plus, your first three sentences have absolutely nothing to do with the last three. So in conclusion
fuck off.

[viva la cymche!]

I agree to an extent that people should help themselves, but this takes it way to far. I understand hating what has become a scene trend but tellling her if she hates her life to "fucking kill herself"? Thats totally indecent and uncalled for. Plus, your first three sentences have absolutely nothing to do with the last three. So in conclusion
fuck off. Sorry bro. Why don't we just go to the TWLOHA support concert and hold hands and cry while Meg & Dia sing about how your not alone? And oh gee, hopefully Aaron Gillespie will come out and say something inspiritional about the effect Christ can have on our lives, if we just believe hard enough.

[chipdip18]

That's no ones fault but your own. I have zero pity for you, people like you or the people that TWLOHA "helps". If you really hate your life, then fucking kill yourself, don't cut yourself as a silent scream for help.

It's annyoing is shit seeing douchebags wearing those [TWLOHA] fucking shirts, because instead of supporting a real organization that helps people that are actually in need, they support one that will give the major scene points, because fucking Hayley Williams and Anberlin support it.

No one's fault but your own? I suppose you could agrue that, but simply just too hard to believe. Would be your fault if a drunk driver killed your parents, and within the first two months since their death, you contimplated suicide, and actually attempted? Clearly you must not have endured any significant event revolving death before. Yes, the suicide attempt would be at your own hands, but the condition of your mind would not. You can't simply turn off the feelings of saddness and depression from death or illness or whatever the case be and carry on that quickly. Now remember, my arguement only stands for someone who has undergone a real harship before in their lives. I can see your point if someone fell into depression, then a suicidal state from meager means.

As far as people really hating their lives on so on, who are you to tell someone how they should act in a certain situation? People act differently in different situations. Even if it is brought on by trivial things. Don't cut yourself as a silent scream for help, and go through with the suicide? That's a rather harsh and heartless position on things. I suppose you could be abrasively trying to get the point accross of helping yourself out, and going to someone yourself for help, but i don't think that most people in that state of mind and depression is going to walk out the door one morning and go to the suicide prevention clinic. I'd rather be able to help someone out of a depressed and suicidal position who was cutting themselves and i noticed the scars, then see them and tell them to kill themselves becuase they hate their life.

I 100% agree with the second part though. Most kids who support it are really just looking for scene points.

Sorry bro. Why don't we just go to the TWLOHA support concert and hold hands and cry while Meg & Dia sing about how your not alone? And oh gee, hopefully Aaron Gillespie will come out and say something inspiritional about the effect Christ can have on our lives, if we just believe hard enough.


Hahaha this did make me laugh a bit. Is To Write Love On Her Arms really Christian supported or related? Or are you making a stab at Aaron Gillespie's religious views and/or Christianity in gerenal? Just curious.

[wroteurname]

That's no ones fault but your own. I have zero pity for you, people like you or the people that TWLOHA "helps". If you really hate your life, then fucking kill yourself, don't cut yourself as a silent scream for help.

It's annyoing is shit seeing douchebags wearing those [TWLOHA] fucking shirts, because instead of supporting a real organization that helps people that are actually in need, they support one that will give the major scene points, because fucking Hayley Williams and Anberlin support it.
Attacking beards and TWLOHA all in one day? You are SO fucking edgy man! Yeah!

[viva la cymche!]

No one's fault but your own? I suppose you could agrue that, but simply just too hard to believe. Would be your fault if a drunk driver killed your parents, and within the first two months since their death, you contimplated suicide, and actually attempted? Clearly you must not have endured any significant event revolving death before. Yes, the suicide attempt would be at your own hands, but the condition of your mind would not. You can't simply turn off the feelings of saddness and depression from death or illness or whatever the case be and carry on that quickly. Now remember, my arguement only stands for someone who has undergone a real harship before in their lives. I can see your point if someone fell into depression, then a suicidal state from meager means.

As far as people really hating their lives on so on, who are you to tell someone how they should act in a certain situation? People act differently in different situations. Even if it is brought on by trivial things. Don't cut yourself as a silent scream for help, and go through with the suicide? That's a rather harsh and heartless position on things. I suppose you could be abrasively trying to get the point accross of helping yourself out, and going to someone yourself for help, but i don't think that most people in that state of mind and depression is going to walk out the door one morning and go to the suicide prevention clinic. I'd rather be able to help someone out of a depressed and suicidal position who was cutting themselves and i noticed the scars, then see them and tell them to kill themselves becuase they hate their life.

Edit: I really hope I was coherent through all of that.

I 100% agree with the second part though. Most kids who support it are really just looking for scene points.




Hahaha this did make me laugh a bit. Is To Write Love On Her Arms really Christian supported or related? Or are you making a stab at Aaron Gillespie's religious views and/or Christianity in gerenal? Just curious. OK, I think it came off like I was talking about "everyone" that has depression and whatnot. I understand that there are some people that have "legitimate" depression (which, isn't actually depression, just a mental thing, but thats a whole different topic), but what I was talking about are the 11-15 year who's "lives suck" and there "parents are so gay". Those kids, should kill themselves, because they talk about it a lot. I'm sure you know people like this. The people that say "Oh I cut myself, I'm so sick, I might just kill myself." Those people need to shut up and just kill themselves if they want to do it so bad.

Anecdote: My sister is a school counselor at a middle school. There's a boy there thats in seventh grade, and I guess his teacher found out that he had been cutting himself. Apparently, the kid told my sister "I don't care about my life. My own mom told me she doesn't even care if I dies." Sounds horrible, right? Not really. My sister talked to the kids parent and she had said "I only said that because every time I ask him to do something, or I punish him for doing something wrong, he says he's going to kill himself." Maybe it was a bit much for the mom to say that, but still. Kids that say they're going to kill themselves because they're parents took away their cellphones, need to shut up and kill themselves.

[chipdip18]

The world is a cold, heartless and pointless place. Accepting that is a pretty pivotal part of life. If you can't accept that you are in for a deluded, miserable and unscuccesful existence.
Which most people can't accept, which leads to what we've got here now.


He didn't tell them what to do. He said they could kill themselves and he wouldn't care.
I may be wrong, but i thought he said they should go kill themselves, it doesn't really matter if he cares or not, that's his take and to each their own, but asking someone to kill themself by using the word should is different. edit: my mistake, he didn't say should, so we can ignore this part of the discussion since i admit i was wrong.


The cry for help is the worst because they're not making attempt to solve their issues, they just want to cause a huge scene and get sympathy and attention.
It's interesting how this works, don't get me wrong, i see your point and mostly agree because cutting and other self-mutilation is for attention, and what is worst is when it is for sympathy and attention, but intentionally making scars visible and so on, but for one who is really self-mutilating for a cry of help tend to keep it subtle and secretive. It's a very inefficient cry for help, but then again they are in an altered mind state, so who knows why that makes sense to them.


This whole thing is just the complete opposite of how I view life. Nowadays everyone wants to blame everyone else for their problems, and go see a physcologist so they can rant on about how their parents divorced and they are unloved or whatever the fuck else. No one wants to toughen up and solve their own problems like mankind has done for millions of years. It is pathetic.

Though we share different outlooks, what you say here is unfortunately true. We live in a world filled with escapism, mostly through technology, and material things. You've got a pretty good outlook for countering the general norm for escapism. But as stupid as it may sound, i can't operate that way. The personality i've sculpted for myself (and been born with, not to spark a nature/nuture arguement) is empathetic and more caring. Unfortnately for trying to counter the laziness and lack of work-ethic and so on, i'd rather try to aid those who seriously need assistence.

[chipdip18]

OK, I think it came off like I was talking about "everyone" that has depression and whatnot. I understand that there are some people that have "legitimate" depression (which, isn't actually depression, just a mental thing, but thats a whole different topic), but what I was talking about are the 11-15 year who's "lives suck" and there "parents are so gay". Those kids, should kill themselves, because they talk about it a lot. I'm sure you know people like this. The people that say "Oh I cut myself, I'm so sick, I might just kill myself." Those people need to shut up and just kill themselves if they want to do it so bad.

Anecdote: My sister is a school counselor at a middle school. There's a boy there thats in seventh grade, and I guess his teacher found out that he had been cutting himself. Apparently, the kid told my sister "I don't care about my life. My own mom told me she doesn't even care if I dies." Sounds horrible, right? Not really. My sister talked to the kids parent and she had said "I only said that because every time I ask him to do something, or I punish him for doing something wrong, he says he's going to kill himself." Maybe it was a bit much for the mom to say that, but still. Kids that say they're going to kill themselves because they're parents took away their cellphones, need to shut up and kill themselves.


Alright then we're on the same page essentially. Thanks for the clarification. Like Ben was saying, we live in a world were people are becoming increasingly lazy, and apathetic, and don't work hard. That reminds me of the saying i absolutely hate most, which is "Fuck my life" since they people who say that do have relatively easy-going lifestyles.

That's an interesting story you've got there, and it does illustrate your point very clearly, well done for that. I like it, the closing statement is pretty excellent. Although i am reading the bolded line as a put your money where your mouth is type of statement, and a bit on the more literal sense, where if these kids didn't exist we would have much less of this escapism issue that we see now. Though my thoughts would go with helping them change their ways, and not actually having them killing themselves.

[viva la cymche!]

Attacking beards and TWLOHA all in one day? You are SO fucking edgy man! Yeah! Yeah, I know. I might attack some popular, generally respected mainstream band, say that they sold out, and the suggest that people should listen to a local punk band that is unsigned and has DIY values in my hometown. People might be shocked, but I don't care. I shall open the eyes of the masses.

[viva la cymche!]

Alright then we're on the same page essentially. Thanks for the clarification. Like Ben was saying, we live in a world were people are becoming increasingly lazy, and apathetic, and don't work hard. That reminds me of the saying i absolutely hate most, which is "Fuck my life" since they people who say that do have relatively easy-going lifestyles.

That's an interesting story you've got there, and it does illustrate your point very clearly, well done for that. I like it, the closing statement is pretty excellent. Although i am reading the bolded line as a put your money where your mouth is type of statement, and a bit on the more literal sense, where if these kids didn't exist we would have much less of this escapism issue that we see now. Though my thoughts would go with helping them change their ways, and not actually having them killing themselves. I'm all for helping those... that have legitimate problems. But even at that, they have to be willing to help themselves. I refuse to help the kind of "oh-ive-fallen-and-i-cant-get-up-please-everyone-rally-around-me-and-give-me-attention-and-maybe-somehow-ill-be-able-to-pull-through-this". If they can't make the effort to try and help themselves, why should I, or anyone else, make the effort to help them?

[chipdip18]

I'm all for helping those... that have legitimate problems. But even at that, they have to be willing to help themselves. I refuse to help the kind of "oh-ive-fallen-and-i-cant-get-up-please-everyone-rally-around-me-and-give-me-attention-and-maybe-somehow-ill-be-able-to-pull-through-this". If they can't make the effort to try and help themselves, why should I, or anyone else, make the effort to help them?

Alright i think we've reached an understanding and an agreement with this post here. I don't have patience for those without real issues. People just aren't grateful.

[chipdip18]

This is definitely part of the issue. American and British cultures are similar but in certain instances very distinct. British culture is very much built around the idea that people should be reserved and never show emotions, because being controlled by emotions is not being sensitive in Britain, it is weakness and is a huge cultural faux-pas. The way I have been brought up if people have issues or problems that is their business and they should keep it to themselves. People are supposed to solve their disputes and problems personally and by themselves, without making a lot of fuss and causing a scene. That's why for example British people don't see physcologists much and why we don't sue each other anywhere near as much as Americans.


Hmm, very interesting. Well excuse my ignorance of British culture. I like that way of thinking though, it seems effecient in ridding some annoying social norms, such as the one we've been discussing. That also clarifies why you think the way you do, and thanks for that clarification.

[Ryzenfall]

This is definitely part of the issue. American and British cultures are similar but in certain instances very distinct. British culture is very much built around the idea that people should be reserved and never show emotions, because being controlled by emotions is not being sensitive in Britain, it is weakness and is a huge cultural faux-pas. The way I have been brought up if people have issues or problems that is their business and they should keep it to themselves. People are supposed to solve their disputes and problems personally and by themselves, without making a lot of fuss and causing a scene. That's why for example British people don't see physcologists much and why we don't sue each other anywhere near as much as Americans.

I am afraid suing is quickly becoming our nations new pastime. It's ridiculous.

And the idea of TWLOHA, despite the haters, is great. But i honestly don't understand why the company will not tell it's supporters in an obvious fashion exactly how their money is being used to "fight depression." If they can prove that, they'll have my continued support.

[sean-reid]

Lol @ the pop crap.

Win on all levels.

Surely Paramore are pop crap? oh the irony.

Anyway regarding TWLOHA itself, I agree with what the organisation is doing but it is a bit shit that some people "support" because it's the "cool" thing to do.

I think when people say they're going "kill themselves", they're being melodramtic and attention seeking (like some other's have already said).

It's just a shame that "cutting" in some way has been glorified and to an extent popular in recent years but at the same time, it's good that it has been recognise, especially for those in need of help, and not just those who are seeking attention and/or want to look "scene".

[turncoat93]

Sorry bro. Why don't we just go to the TWLOHA support concert and hold hands and cry while Meg & Dia sing about how your not alone? And oh gee, hopefully Aaron Gillespie will come out and say something inspiritional about the effect Christ can have on our lives, if we just believe hard enough.
aw dude this exhibits that you totally understood exactly what i was talking about. Cause i obviously listen to meg and dia, openly support To Write Love on Her Arms and am a 14 year old girl who worships Aaron Gillespie. sorry i said anything at all.
You know there are ways to express your opinion without being a total prick.

[viva la cymche!]

cutting = major scene points. like twenty probably.

[shortone1320]

forget the music, its associated with, weather you like it of not it doesn't detract from the good that comes from this organization. I've seen what it can do to people. i ve also seen those who had no support. This is great and it has changed many lives so i support it greatly.

[turncoat93]

cutting = major scene points. like twenty probably.
dude your fucking hilarious! maybe if you keep sucking lunch for the sky's dick maybe he'll give you a cookie!

[viva la cymche!]

dude your fucking hilarious! maybe if you keep sucking lunch for the sky's dick maybe he'll give you a cookie! lulz.

[shortone1320]

lulz.
got a soul, dude?

[viva la cymche!]

got a soul, dude? no... not really.

[shortone1320]

no... not really.
that explains alot.

[thesafeword]

forget the music, its associated with, weather you like it of not it doesn't detract from the good that comes from this organization. I've seen what it can do to people. i ve also seen those who had no support. This is great and it has changed many lives so i support it greatly.
They must not teach grammar and spelling at scenester school.

[batmannj]

No. They should stop being pathetic attention seekers. There are people in the world who really do need our help. These girls were born with every advantage and still can't make a go of their lives. I say fuck 'em.
there is a difference between being an attention seeker and between having a problem. some people who get so drunk they pass out every weekend are looking for attention, but some of them have a serious problem. same thing goes for people who cut themselves. i am so sick of this "they are emo" crap that they get. i have known people who have had a real problem, and it was after family had died, or after a girl had been raped. so before you get on your pedastool of trying to talk down someone for not knowing what he is talking about, please check your facts before you go spurting off at the mouth.

[batmannj]

Surely Paramore are pop crap? oh the irony.

Anyway regarding TWLOHA itself, I agree with what the organisation is doing but it is a bit shit that some people "support" because it's the "cool" thing to do.

I think when people say they're going "kill themselves", they're being melodramtic and attention seeking (like some other's have already said).

It's just a shame that "cutting" in some way has been glorified and to an extent popular in recent years but at the same time, it's good that it has been recognise, especially for those in need of help, and not just those who are seeking attention and/or want to look "scene".
this is a good intelligent posts. the organization itself is trying to help people with a serious problem, but at the same time there are people who do the cutting for attention. its the same way with any sort of attempted suicide. i have a friend who needs attention and he has threatened to kill himself a few times, and none of them he was ever actually serious. that being said, those people still need help.

[batmannj]

Pretty huge difference between him having existed in any form and then having done anything the Bible claims of him, and then even further to that being the son of God. By the way, no one who ever met Jesus ever recorded it.
and people who say that He isn't real have no proof. seriously man, arguing this topic is pointless in a forum. you have your opinion, and i have mine. we are not going to change each other's minds.

[shortone1320]

They must not teach grammar and spelling at scenester school.
no they do, i just don't pay attention.

[batmannj]

That's no ones fault but your own. I have zero pity for you, people like you or the people that TWLOHA "helps". If you really hate your life, then fucking kill yourself, don't cut yourself as a silent scream for help.

It's annyoing is shit seeing douchebags wearing those [TWLOHA] fucking shirts, because instead of supporting a real organization that helps people that are actually in need, they support one that will give the major scene points, because fucking Hayley Williams and Anberlin support it.
its not about hating life. its about people that may have a serious problem. suicide is not funny, at all.

yes some people do support it because it is the thing to do. but so is coming on to a forum and saying cutting gets you "scene points" is something you might be doing because it is trendy.

stop treating this like it is funny and that no one gets hurt because of depression and that TWLOHA is a joke. its not.

[batmannj]

Try and prove a giant elephant is stood behind you right now.
like i said, you have your beliefs, and i have mine. i respect that you feel differently, and i will not try and argue with you on the topic. I do not need to prove that Jesus is real. I believe it with all my heart, all my soul, and all my mind.

[thesafeword]

God is a scapegoat for when we don't know why something happens.

[chipdip18]

Try and prove a giant elephant is stood behind you right now.

Oh i love these debates.

no they do, i just don't pay attention.

Extra scene points.

[batmannj]

Belief is no substitute for reality.
hardly. my beliefs define my reality. and i do not need you to tell me what is important in my life. i have felt Jesus in my heart, and He is my reality.

[batmannj]

God is a scapegoat for when we don't know why something happens.
I am not trying to be offensive here, but what do you know about God? have you ever read the Bible? do you know what Jesus taught? If you read it, His only message was love, and to treat one another as you would have them treat you. I do not understand how or why you would not want to believe it.

[batmannj]

Try and prove a giant elephant is stood behind you right now.
Prove to me Jesus is not real. You cannot do it.

Oh and your earlier statement. the Gospels were written as early as 14 years after Jesus' death. They were written by people who lived with Jesus and who followed him. You cannot definitively prove that He was not real.

[Praetor]

Prove to me Jesus is not real. You cannot do it.

Oh and your earlier statement. the Gospels were written as early as 14 years after Jesus' death. They were written by people who lived with Jesus and who followed him. You cannot definitively prove that He was not real.
The burden of proof isn't on him, it's on you.

[bowl of oranges]

the Old Testament God was a prick

[TheBaroness]

lol, Twilight is one of the most generic, poorly-written books currently in the market

[hockeyguitar99]

This thread turned from me and some others attacking some idiot (which I probably shouldn't have done), to a deep discussion of Jesus and depression. That's interesting.

[thesafeword]

I am not trying to be offensive here, but what do you know about God? have you ever read the Bible? do you know what Jesus taught? If you read it, His only message was love, and to treat one another as you would have them treat you. I do not understand how or why you would not want to believe it.
First of all, what do you know about god? Secondly, Jesus had more messages than just love. And I choose not to believe this because science gives evidence while people like you just say things like "well you can't prove that there is god" and "I can feel Jesus in my heart" So just enjoy looking deep and cool with your scene friends as you become a bandwagon, faux-Christian because of To Write Love on Her Arms and Underoath and shit.

[imahoodlum]

I am not trying to be offensive here, but what do you know about God? have you ever read the Bible? do you know what Jesus taught? If you read it, His only message was love, and to treat one another as you would have them treat you. I do not understand how or why you would not want to believe it.

I grew up in a very strict Catholic home and I was forced to read the bible a lot. The more I read, the more I became distant with my religion. It seemed like complete bullshit. I don't think that the Christian God should get attention due to, what I find to be, lack of evidence. It took me a long time to realize that I don't have to let the words of a book dictate me. I don't believe in a higher existence and I still consider myself a moral person. I am loving and kind, without God or Jesus.

[batmannj]

And here we reach the crux of the issue. You believe not because of evidence or reason but because you want to believe, you hope God exists but you have no cause to believe he does. I have no more to say, my point is proven straight from your own words and beyond all doubt. Way to shoot yourself in the foot.
i do believe because of evidence. maybe not the kind of evidence that you can taste or touch or see or feel, but by experiences that have happened in my life. I have felt Jesus inside of me, I have seen the good that people can do in the name of God, I have been able to deal with other issue's in my life because of God. Yes, part of it is because I want to believe, but I do not believe that I am "shooting myself in the foot."

If you think that you are going to get underneath my skin by challenging me and saying that you "have proven your point." again, I am not going to change my beliefs simply because Mr. lunchforthesky says I am wrong in an internet forum.

[thesafeword]

Feeling Jesus inside of yourself isn't evidence.

[chipdip18]

Feeling Jesus inside of yourself isn't evidence.


Well, as stupid as it sounds, you can't disprove that, or prove it as an outside looker. We all experience reality differently, and he may have felt whatever he did, that persuaded him to believe in Jesus Christ. We can't really do anything about it except trust him or find it a foolish claim. So, have we reached the point yet where everyone does their own thing?

[thesafeword]

Well, as stupid as it sounds, you can't disprove that, or prove it as an outside looker. We all experience reality differently, and he may have felt whatever he did, that persuaded him to believe in Jesus Christ. We can't really do anything about it except trust him or find it a foolish claim. So, have we reached the point yet where everyone does their own thing?
This may be true, but I don't really see it in this kid. He seems to be getting Jesus and God mixed up, half the time I feel like he's trying to prove to me that Jesus is real.

[chipdip18]

This may be true, but I don't really see it in this kid. He seems to be getting Jesus and God mixed up, half the time I feel like he's trying to prove to me that Jesus is real.

Hahaha. The one thing that bothers me the most throughout history and today is the cramming of Christianity down people's throats.

[shortone1320]

I went to a catholic school for 8yrs and i hated every second of it because all they did was force god upon u. and better have ran 4 your life if any teacher caught u spelling god with a lower case 'g', you would fail english for that.
i am now pround of my public school education cause it is somuch better than any private church dictated crap.

[batmannj]

First of all, what do you know about god? Secondly, Jesus had more messages than just love. And I choose not to believe this because science gives evidence while people like you just say things like "well you can't prove that there is god" and "I can feel Jesus in my heart" So just enjoy looking deep and cool with your scene friends as you become a bandwagon, faux-Christian because of To Write Love on Her Arms and Underoath and shit.
you do not know me. at all. bandwagon Christian? really? you do not know the first thing about me or the things i have been through. do not tell me who i am punk.

oh, i am sorry....i like the work that TWLOHA does, and yes i enjoy Underoath's music very much. i dont like it because it is "cool" or "scene."

I can feel Jesus in my heart. disprove that. you keep your science and death. I will take Jesus and my life anyday.

[batmannj]

I grew up in a very strict Catholic home and I was forced to read the bible a lot. The more I read, the more I became distant with my religion. It seemed like complete bullshit. I don't think that the Christian God should get attention due to, what I find to be, lack of evidence. It took me a long time to realize that I don't have to let the words of a book dictate me. I don't believe in a higher existence and I still consider myself a moral person. I am loving and kind, without God or Jesus.
I see where you are coming from. I was born and raised Catholic, not as strict as you, but I was raised in a Catholic household. Sometimes, when people who are trying to preach the word of God, they get lost in it. Sometimes it becomes more about them and not so much about the message they are trying to put across. I encourage you to take some time, and reexamine the Bible. For me, I would not say that it dictates my life as much as it is a manual for how to live life to the fullest.

I do appreciate your well thought out answer.

[batmannj]

Well, as stupid as it sounds, you can't disprove that, or prove it as an outside looker. We all experience reality differently, and he may have felt whatever he did, that persuaded him to believe in Jesus Christ. We can't really do anything about it except trust him or find it a foolish claim. So, have we reached the point yet where everyone does their own thing?
no. i am not trying to convince people to follow God. I just get upset when ignorant people make baseless claims about God or Jesus.

I am fine if people do not agree with me on this thread. I understand that I am in the very small minority. I do not mean to offend.

[batmannj]

The burden of proof isn't on him, it's on you.
i missed the part where i ever tried to say he had to disprove me. the only thing i said was lets not get into this debate. this guy has his point of view, as you have yours, and i have mine. their is no point in arguing. but lunchforthesky egged me on and i bit. so i guess he wins? whatever.

[summer skin]

I went to a catholic school for 8yrs and i hated every second of it because all they did was force god upon u. and better have ran 4 your life if any teacher caught u spelling god with a lower case 'g', you would fail english for that.
i am now pround of my public school education cause it is somuch better than any private church dictated crap.
Ironic post will not go ignored if I have anything to say about it.

[llwilliamsll]

I went to a catholic school for 8yrs and i hated every second of it because all they did was force god upon u. and better have ran 4 your life if any teacher caught u spelling god with a lower case 'g', you would fail english for that.
i am now pround of my public school education cause it is somuch better than any private church dictated crap.
hahahahahaha

[thesafeword]

I can feel Jesus in my heart. disprove that. you keep your science and death. I will take Jesus and my life anyday.
Prove to me that you can. Let me guess, you believe that god magically created everything and all of this 'science' and 'evidence' about evolution is just bullshit? Well Ned Flanders, prove to me that there is a god or that you can feel Jesus. And you better not say that you can just feel him or tell me that I can't disprove it.

[summer skin]

Prove to me that you can. Let me guess, you believe that god magically created everything and all of this 'science' and 'evidence' about evolution is just bullshit? Well Ned Flanders, prove to me that there is a god or that you can feel Jesus. And you better not say that you can just feel him or tell me that I can't disprove it.
NO TAKE YOUR DEATH FUCKO

[thesafeword]

NO TAKE YOUR DEATH FUCKO
IM GOING TO FUCKING HELL, BATMANNJ SAVE ME WITH YOUR JESUS TALK

[summer skin]

IM GOING TO FUCKING HELL, BATMANNJ SAVE ME WITH YOUR JESUS TALK
The name batmannj makes me think of some sort of bat symbol shaped joint.

[thesafeword]

I picture him getting an n-job from Bat Man, but that's not very church-like. Then again, most Christians are pretty hypocritical.

[summer skin]

I picture him getting an n-job from Bat Man, but that's not very church-like. Then again, most Christians are pretty hypocritical.
The fuck is a n-job?
necro?

[thesafeword]

If you have to ask you can't afford t.

[batmannj]

IM GOING TO FUCKING HELL, BATMANNJ SAVE ME WITH YOUR JESUS TALK

no you arent going to hell. i cannot judge you. no one can, aside from God.

[batmannj]

Prove to me that you can. Let me guess, you believe that god magically created everything and all of this 'science' and 'evidence' about evolution is just bullshit? Well Ned Flanders, prove to me that there is a god or that you can feel Jesus. And you better not say that you can just feel him or tell me that I can't disprove it.

God did not do it magically. To be honest with you, I cannot totally describe to you how he did it. But God is not a magician.

so you just believe that a few atoms bounced the right way and now everything hangs in the mercy of which way said atoms go? i guess i do not see a point to life without God.

i do no understand you man. as i have said before there is no way that either of us are going to win this arguement. i cannot definitively prove to you that i can feel Jesus in my heart. you know this. if you think that was your checkmate move than congratulations....you win. just remember Jesus is always out there to listen to you.

[batmannj]

So surely law courts are blasphemy?

well you enjoy twisting words dont you. i meant in the sense of me telling him whether or not he is going to hell. yes in a legal sense, law courts are great and are absolutely neccessary. they are not blasphemy.

[batmannj]

The name batmannj makes me think of some sort of bat symbol shaped joint.

batman is my favorite comic book character. NJ stands for Norma Jean, one of my favorite bands.

(Insert someone making fun of me for liking Jesus and Norma Jean)

[batmannj]

No they are blasphemy. If only God can judge people then how are law courts justified? Yes they are practical, but since when is pragmatism more important than God's word?

:shake:

if you say so. i guess if you read the God delusion, by Roger Dawkins it makes you an expert.

i am done responding to you.

[thesafeword]

Okay batmannj, tell me this, if there is a God then why are there starving children in Africa? Why are there serial killers? Why did 9/11 happen? This God you keep ravong about must be severely fucked up if he allows things like this to happen.

[batmannj]

Okay batmannj, tell me this, if there is a God then why are there starving children in Africa? Why are there serial killers? Why did 9/11 happen? This God you keep ravong about must be severely fucked up if he allows things like this to happen.

There are several reasons for this so pardon me if it is a long post. The reason why there are starving children in Africa, and why other sorts of tragedies happen is not so much to do with God, but more to do with the sins of men. Each and every single person who has ever lived has sinned. For example, in the situation in Africa, part of the reason why there are so many starving children is because we are selfish. Here in America, the obesity rate sky rockets, but at the same time we are not sharing our abundancy of resources. There is enough food in the world to feed all of the hungry. The root of why God allows this to happen is because He gave us free will. We are allowed to think for ourselves, and do the things we want to. Part of that is allowing us to be able to be the people that we are, instead of just what God wants us to do. God wants us to find Him, He wants us to search Him out, so that we can get to Heaven.

There are serial killers because again, the serial killers have their own free will. They chose to murder. It would not make much sense for God to not give us free will so we were only his robots. He wants us to live a complete and total life. Unfortunately, there are those who choose to murder and steal.

9/11 was allowed to happen again because of the free will issue. But on 9/11, a lot of people, even more than usual, were still on the way to the World Trade Centers. There were not as many people in the building then there usually was. Yes, it was a terrible tragedy, but it could have been even worse, and I believe that God had a hand in that.

I understand why you would think that God is pretty messed up. Sometimes I look at this world, and when I have done mission work I wonder why the people are allowed to live in such a state. It is tough, but it is the people in this world who are the messed up ones making decisions that hurt our brothers and sisters.

If you have any other questions, I would be more than happy to answer them.

[batmannj]

That doesn't answer the question at all, it's a total cop out. Why would God even do any of this to begin with? Why would he even create the universe? If the universe exists only as a testing ground for humans why did it exists for billions of years before we did?



ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha yeah God was really sparing that day. What a great guy, he only decided to let ten's of of thousands die and then millions more in the following wars. What a gentlemen to keep it down to millions rather than billions. Now that is class.

1) I do not understand how it is a cop out. God allows it to happen because it is our own free will. We choose to sin. We choose not to help the people in Africa.

2) Again, it is free will. God did not brain wash the men who flew those planes into the WTC. God did not tell them to do it. He helped spare more lives that could have been lost in that day.

We are discussing this on two different planes. Look, I understand that you do not believe in God, and if that is what you choose that is what you choose. I have seen God do works in my life, and ever since I have connected with my faith, my life has been considerably better. Maybe in the logic that you are using, it is because religion and God are the "opiate for the masses" and if that is what you think it is that is fine.

I apologize for saying the "keep your science and your death" comment because it was out of line and I was typing because I was upset. I did not mean to come off as condecending.

I think it would be wise of us to agree to disagree, because it seems pretty clear that you are only interested in disproving me, and there is nothing that you or I will say that will change each other's mind.

That or we could go back to the original intent of the thread and discuss TWLOHA and whether on not we find it to be a good organization. I still stand by my original statement, and I believe that the organization does a fantastic job of helping people with depression. I don't care that Underoath and Anberlin endorse it, and it is not the reason why I like it. I have known people who have been close to suicide. I talked to a friend on the phone, and ended up talking him out of killing himself. People who are suicidal are sick in the same way a drug addict or alcoholic are, and I think that this organization is good for helping those people.

[thesafeword]

1)2) Again, it is free will. God did not brain wash the men who flew those planes into the WTC. God did not tell them to do it. He helped spare more lives that could have been lost in that day.
They did that in the name of god. In there eyes, they did it for him.

So god is punishing all of those little children by letting them die of AIDS and starvation, just because a few world leaders are helping them? Also, why hasn't god given us a cure for cancer or AIDS or diabetes? Something tells me that if there was a god, he would take care of his people.

And on the issue of To Write Love on Her Arms, cutting in most cases with teenagers is a cry for attention and TWLOHA gives them that attention.

[batmannj]

They did that in the name of god. In there eyes, they did it for him.

So god is punishing all of those little children by letting them die of AIDS and starvation, just because a few world leaders are helping them? Also, why hasn't god given us a cure for cancer or AIDS or diabetes? Something tells me that if there was a god, he would take care of his people.

And on the issue of To Write Love on Her Arms, cutting in most cases with teenagers is a cry for attention and TWLOHA gives them that attention.
Take a look at the Bible, murder of anyone is definitly not what God was commanding them to do. Evil men twisted the words of the Koran and brainwashed those men into thinking they were doing that for God.

God is not punishing anyone. It is the people in power in Africa and the military coups that kidnap young children and murder, steal, and pillage for their own gain. God is not the ones who are putting 6 year old children at the battle lines.

how do you know about cutting being a cry for attention? usually if a teenage kid is that messed up to be cutting themselves for some sort of attention, that means they are sick in the head. they need help, and TWLOHA can provide that kind of help to those kids. what are we supposed to do? let them cut until one day they seriously see no way out and kill themselves? I do not think that is the right thing to do.

[Chromefox]

1) I do not understand how it is a cop out. God allows it to happen because it is our own free will. We choose to sin. We choose not to help the people in Africa.
What kind of God picks favourites? You're saying that God put the responsibility of the rest of the world into America's hands? What kind of pigheaded stupid logic is that?

[batmannj]

What kind of God picks favourites? You're saying that God put the responsibility of the rest of the world into America's hands? What kind of pigheaded stupid logic is that?
no i am not saying God put our responsibility into America's hands. I picked America as an example, but the UK, or France, or Germany, or any other non-third world country could help Africa, they just choose not to do it.

I never said God picked favorites. the people in this world, who chose to go to Africa and make slaves and bring disease to Africa are the ones you should blame, not God. God had nothing to do with it.

[chipdip18]

Don't know if you went all out enough Ben.

[Chromefox]

no i am not saying God put our responsibility into America's hands. I picked America as an example, but the UK, or France, or Germany, or any other non-third world country could help Africa, they just choose not to do it.

I never said God picked favorites. the people in this world, who chose to go to Africa and make slaves and bring disease to Africa are the ones you should blame, not God. God had nothing to do with it. My point isn't that America is better off than Africa, it's that your God has allowed an uneven playing field at life. If your God is going to put the responsibility of miracles off on us, then what do we need him for?

[karlwithak]

What kind of God picks favorites? You're saying that God put the responsibility of the rest of the world into America's hands? What kind of pigheaded stupid logic is that?
Yea I am pretty sure America doesn't have the world in its hands and he didn't say that. God gave us the freewill to either choose Jesus or choose our own lives. Sin has a negative impact, not only on ourselves, but also on the people and the world around us. You also forget that Satan has a hand in the world too and causes misery and temptation. And frankly, good people go through bad things, one to help our faith grow and two how would we know love without pain?

[Chromefox]

And dammit, I want to see someone address Ben's post too.

[karlwithak]

I could counter and counter again the arguments displayed here. But I will say this. All I know is my life had no purpose, I had no reason to live anymore, and no desire to honestly. Then Jesus came into my life and now I see. I have purpose, and reason, and a love like no other. I say this, when you say screw God, God still says I love you. You can bash the Bible, Jesus, God, and my friend and I all you want, but in the end we still believe in Jesus, the Bible, and God. More important God still loves you and we love you too.

[Machu505]

There was some epic pwnage on this page.

[batmannj]

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

pardon me for not quoting the whole post.

now did you get this from your beloved Richard Dawkins? or did you get it from some sort of Athiest, or Agnostic author? If I cannot use the Bible to support my points, who was written by people who witnessed Jesus and his miracles (yes, I believe that they were written then. also I believe it is the word of God.) you cant use your authors either.

the readings that you chose, and there were many of them, were chosen in a certain context. While like I said above, I believe the Bible to be the word of God, but part of the Bible, especailly the Old Testament, there was a vengeful God. If you recall the story of Noah and the arc, God actually caused the flood to end the word. Most of the quotes you used from the Bible in your little speech were from the Old Testament. There are also several parables and stories in the Bible talking about men who did not have faith in the Lord, and other people who went about their own selfish endevors in the name of the Lord. Those quotes you used (a majority of them) are taken from stories about men who are not God himself.

so essentially what you have done is taken several readings from the Old Testament from the Bible and twisted them into making it look like God is a homicidal maniac. let me ask you this: why would God create us just to kill us? it makes no sense. there are serious holes in your logic. like i said earlier, reading the God Delusion does not make you an expert, just like me just reading the Bible does not make me an expert.

So in all your gusto in quoting the Old Testament, you also completly left out the New Testament in which God makes a new Covenant with His people. God sent His son Jesus, in the form of a man, to die for all of our sins, both past and present. The only thing we need to do is invite Jesus into our hearts and live the message that he preached. Love, Hope, Salvation, Charity, and Kindness. Jesus came, and he preached love. Jesus came so that he could end death. Not in a worldly way, but so that we would all be insured Heaven if all we did was ask him into our hearts and do His work.

I have been to two World Youth Day's. One was in Germany, the other was in Australia. I have been in crowds of over 1 million young people, who were there to celebrate together. That was that Jesus Christ was present amongst us. I have seen the good that has happened for a person once they asked Him into their hearts. I have seen a person fall away from faith and fall deeper into issues they had before without God in their lives.

This will be my last post in this thread (i know i said it before, but i am finished with it now.) If you would like to ask me anything about the Bible, or Jesus, or God, feel free to message me. I will answer to the best of my knowledge. I believe that Jesus is Lord, and that even though I sin just as much as any man or woman, I know that i have salvation in Jesus.

Remember Jesus loves you guys, and if you ever decide to ask him into your hearts he is there.

Thanks and God Bless

Have a happy new year guys! (i mean that sincerly)

[Regards]

What is this thread doing unlocked and in the music forum?

[Regards]

Hahahahahah, nah. I'm quite secure in my faith.

[thesafeword]

I could counter and counter again the arguments displayed here. But I will say this. All I know is my life had no purpose, I had no reason to live anymore, and no desire to honestly. Then Jesus came into my life and now I see. I have purpose, and reason, and a love like no other. I say this, when you say screw God, God still says I love you. You can bash the Bible, Jesus, God, and my friend and I all you want, but in the end we still believe in Jesus, the Bible, and God. More important God still loves you and we love you too.
I'm not really sure if I believe all of this talk about god and all of his love, you see, it just doesn't fit, with all of the innocent people dying around the world and all.

[Machu505]

I have a real problem with the notion of everything being pre-determined. That would definitely make God the worst evil ever.

[thesafeword]

I want batmannj to respond to some of this stuff here.

[chipdip18]

I want batmannj to respond to some of this stuff here.

I think he left to go think things over. Or you guys totally stripped him of his faith so he went and did something awful that made headliner news. Or he went to get some stuff to combat you with. Who really knows?

[thesafeword]

lunchforthesky really fucked him up, the guy probably hasn't stopped crying since he saw that last post.

[chipdip18]

Hahaha probably. That response of his to the "God doesn't command people to kill" was brutal. But an ace response, hard to say anything back to that.

[thesafeword]

Especially because it came straight from the Bible.

[chipdip18]

Haha exactly! Man, Ben is an excellent arguer/debater. Though you had your moments too.

[thesafeword]

Nothing like Ben though, haha. He shut that kid up.

[chipdip18]

Haha this is very true.

[micahistheballs]

Micah Kills a Whole Town
Then, with Micah's idols and his priest, the men of Dan came to the town of Laish, whose people were peaceful and secure. They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground. There was no one to rescue the residents of the town, for they lived a great distance from Sidon and had no allies nearby. This happened in the valley near Beth-rehob.Then the people of the tribe of Dan rebuilt the town and lived there. They renamed the town Dan after their ancestor, Israel's son, but it had originally been called Laish. (Judges 18:27-29 NLT) (Note that God approves of this slaughter in verse 6.)

Whoa.

[thesafeword]

How could you?

[karlwithak]

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1)If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)


Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

God Kills all the First Born of Egypt
And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

Kill Old Men and Young Women
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)
(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

More Rape and Baby Killing
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)


More of Samson's Murders
(The Lord saves Sampson from standing trial for 30 murders and arson by allowing him to kill 1000 more men.) When he reached Lehi, and the Philistines came shouting to meet him, the spirit of the Lord came upon him: the ropes around his arms become as flax that is consumed by fire and the bonds melted away from his hands. Near him was the fresh jawbone of an ass; he reached out, grasped it, and with it killed a thousand men. (Judges 15:14-15 NAB)

Peter Kills Two People
There was also a man named Ananias who, with his wife, Sapphira, sold some property. He brought part of the money to the apostles, but he claimed it was the full amount. His wife had agreed to this deception. Then Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren't lying to us but to God." As soon as Ananias heard these words, he fell to the floor and died. Everyone who heard about it was terrified. Then some young men wrapped him in a sheet and took him out and buried him. About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. Peter asked her, "Was this the price you and your husband received for your land?" "Yes," she replied, "that was the price." And Peter said, "How could the two of you even think of doing a thing like this – conspiring together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Just outside that door are the young men who buried your husband, and they will carry you out, too." Instantly, she fell to the floor and died. When the young men came in and saw that she was dead, they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. Great fear gripped the entire church and all others who heard what had happened. (Acts 5:1-11 NLT)

Mass Murder
This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: 'I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.' (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

You Have to Kill
Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)

The Danites Kill the Next Town
But the territory of the Danites was too small for them; so the Danites marched up and attacked Leshem, which they captured and put to the sword. Once they had taken possession of Lesham, they renamed the settlement after their ancestor Dan. (Joshua 19:47 NAB)

God Kills Some More
Then the LORD said to me, "Even if Moses and Samuel stood before me pleading for these people, I wouldn't help them. Away with them! Get them out of my sight! And if they say to you, 'But where can we go?' tell them, 'This is what the LORD says: Those who are destined for death, to death; those who are destined for war, to war; those who are destined for famine, to famine; those who are destined for captivity, to captivity.' "I will send four kinds of destroyers against them," says the LORD. "I will send the sword to kill, the dogs to drag away, the vultures to devour, and the wild animals to finish up what is left. Because of the wicked things Manasseh son of Hezekiah, king of Judah, did in Jerusalem, I will make my people an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth." (Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)

God Promises More Killing
I will make Mount Seir utterly desolate, killing off all who try to escape and any who return. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)

The Angel of Death
My angel will go before you and bring you to the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites, and Jebusites; and I will wipe them out. (Exodus 23:23 NAB)

Destruction of Ai
Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Do not be afraid or discouraged. Take the entire army and attack Ai, for I have given to you the king of Ai, his people, his city, and his land. You will destroy them as you destroyed Jericho and its king. But this time you may keep the captured goods and the cattle for yourselves. Set an ambush behind the city." So Joshua and the army of Israel set out to attack Ai. Joshua chose thirty thousand fighting men and sent them out at night with these orders: "Hide in ambush close behind the city and be ready for action. When our main army attacks, the men of Ai will come out to fight as they did before, and we will run away from them. We will let them chase us until they have all left the city. For they will say, 'The Israelites are running away from us as they did before.' Then you will jump up from your ambush and take possession of the city, for the LORD your God will give it to you. Set the city on fire, as the LORD has commanded. You have your orders." So they left that night and lay in ambush between Bethel and the west side of Ai. But Joshua remained among the people in the camp that night.
Early the next morning Joshua roused his men and started toward Ai, accompanied by the leaders of Israel. They camped on the north side of Ai, with a valley between them and the city. That night Joshua sent five thousand men to lie in ambush between Bethel and Ai, on the west side of the city. So they stationed the main army north of the city and the ambush west of the city. Joshua himself spent that night in the valley. When the king of Ai saw the Israelites across the valley, he and all his army hurriedly went out early the next morning and attacked the Israelites at a place overlooking the Jordan Valley. But he didn't realize there was an ambush behind the city. Joshua and the Israelite army fled toward the wilderness as though they were badly beaten, and all the men in the city were called out to chase after them. In this way, they were lured away from the city. There was not a man left in Ai or Bethel who did not chase after the Israelites, and the city was left wide open.
Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Point your spear toward Ai, for I will give you the city." Joshua did as he was commanded. As soon as Joshua gave the signal, the men in ambush jumped up and poured into the city. They quickly captured it and set it on fire. When the men of Ai looked behind them, smoke from the city was filling the sky, and they had nowhere to go. For the Israelites who had fled in the direction of the wilderness now turned on their pursuers. When Joshua and the other Israelites saw that the ambush had succeeded and that smoke was rising from the city, they turned and attacked the men of Ai. Then the Israelites who were inside the city came out and started killing the enemy from the rear. So the men of Ai were caught in a trap, and all of them died. Not a single person survived or escaped. Only the king of Ai was taken alive and brought to Joshua.
When the Israelite army finished killing all the men outside the city, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai was wiped out that day – twelve thousand in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. Only the cattle and the treasures of the city were not destroyed, for the Israelites kept these for themselves, as the LORD had commanded Joshua. So Ai became a permanent mound of ruins, desolate to this very day. Joshua hung the king of Ai on a tree and left him there until evening. At sunset the Israelites took down the body and threw it in front of the city gate. They piled a great heap of stones over him that can still be seen today. (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)

Killing at Jericho
When the people heard the sound of the horns, they shouted as loud as they could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho collapsed, and the Israelites charged straight into the city from every side and captured it. They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)

God Kills an Extended Family
"You have done more evil than all who lived before you. You have made other gods and have made me furious with your gold calves. And since you have turned your back on me, I will bring disaster on your dynasty and kill all your sons, slave or free alike. I will burn up your royal dynasty as one burns up trash until it is all gone. I, the LORD, vow that the members of your family who die in the city will be eaten by dogs, and those who die in the field will be eaten by vultures.'" Then Ahijah said to Jeroboam's wife, "Go on home, and when you enter the city, the child will die. All Israel will mourn for him and bury him. He is the only member of your family who will have a proper burial, for this child is the only good thing that the LORD, the God of Israel, sees in the entire family of Jeroboam. And the LORD will raise up a king over Israel who will destroy the family of Jeroboam. This will happen today, even now! Then the LORD will shake Israel like a reed whipped about in a stream. He will uproot the people of Israel from this good land that he gave their ancestors and will scatter them beyond the Euphrates River, for they have angered the LORD by worshiping Asherah poles. He will abandon Israel because Jeroboam sinned and made all of Israel sin along with him." (1 Kings 14:9-16 NLT)

Mass Murder
The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon. Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon. (Judges 20:48 NAB)

The Angel of Death
That night the angel of the Lord went forth and struck down one hundred and eighty five thousand men in the Assyrian camp. Early the next morning, there they were, all the corpuses of the dead. (2 Kings 19:35 NAB)

Kill Your Neighbors
(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

Kill the Family of Sinners
And Joshua said to Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession to him; and tell me now what thou hast done, hide it not from me. And Achan answered Joshua, and said, Indeed I have sinned against the LORD God of Israel, and thus and thus have I done. When I saw among the spoils a goodly Babylonish garment, and two hundred shekels of silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty shekels weight, then I coveted them, and took them, and behold, they are hid in the earth in the midst of my tent, and the silver under it." [Note that the sin is not looting, but failing to give the loot to the treasury of the Lord.] "So Joshua sent messengers, and they ran to the tent, and behold, it was hid in his tent, and the silver under it. And they took them from the midst of the tent, and brought them to Joshua, and to all the children of Israel, and laid them out before the LORD. And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, and the silver, and the garment, and the wedge of gold, and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had: and they brought them to the valley of Achor. And Joshua said, why hast thou troubled us? the LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. And they raised over him a great heap of stones to this day. So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger: wherefore the name of that place was called the valley of Achor to this day. (Joshua 7:19-26 Webster's Bible)

Kill Followers of Other Religions
While the Israelites were camped at Acacia, some of the men defiled themselves by sleeping with the local Moabite women. These women invited them to attend sacrifices to their gods, and soon the Israelites were feasting with them and worshiping the gods of Moab. Before long Israel was joining in the worship of Baal of Peor, causing the LORD's anger to blaze against his people. The LORD issued the following command to Moses: "Seize all the ringleaders and execute them before the LORD in broad daylight, so his fierce anger will turn away from the people of Israel." So Moses ordered Israel's judges to execute everyone who had joined in worshiping Baal of Peor. Just then one of the Israelite men brought a Midianite woman into the camp, right before the eyes of Moses and all the people, as they were weeping at the entrance of the Tabernacle. When Phinehas son of Eleazar and grandson of Aaron the priest saw this, he jumped up and left the assembly. Then he took a spear and rushed after the man into his tent. Phinehas thrust the spear all the way through the man's body and into the woman's stomach. So the plague against the Israelites was stopped, but not before 24,000 people had died. (Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)

Murder
At the customary time for offering the evening sacrifice, Elijah the prophet walked up to the altar and prayed, "O LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, prove today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant. Prove that I have done all this at your command. O LORD, answer me! Answer me so these people will know that you, O LORD, are God and that you have brought them back to yourself." Immediately the fire of the LORD flashed down from heaven and burned up the young bull, the wood, the stones, and the dust. It even licked up all the water in the ditch! And when the people saw it, they fell on their faces and cried out, "The LORD is God! The LORD is God!" Then Elijah commanded, "Seize all the prophets of Baal. Don't let a single one escape!" So the people seized them all, and Elijah took them down to the Kishon Valley and killed them there. (1 Kings 18:36-40 NLT)

Kill All of Babylon
"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

Micah Kills a Whole Town
Then, with Micah's idols and his priest, the men of Dan came to the town of Laish, whose people were peaceful and secure. They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground. There was no one to rescue the residents of the town, for they lived a great distance from Sidon and had no allies nearby. This happened in the valley near Beth-rehob.Then the people of the tribe of Dan rebuilt the town and lived there. They renamed the town Dan after their ancestor, Israel's son, but it had originally been called Laish. (Judges 18:27-29 NLT) (Note that God approves of this slaughter in verse 6.)


You quote the Old Testament only. I know me stating this point won't change your mind because you prolly don't care about what I have to say, but the New Testament changes everything you quote. Jesus dies and God establishes a new covenant with us through the blood of Christ. Hence why God doesn't lay waste to countries anymore. Jesus changes a lot of how God deals with us now. And so what is the issue with God killing in the Old Testament? He is God. His judgment is righteous. We can't judge His judgement. Read about Sodom and Gomorrah. The towns were wrought with things that went against His law so He delievered His judgment.

[karlwithak]

To Write Love On Her Arms I decided to make a post about TWLOHA why simply because musicians and bands like Paramore,Anberlin,UnderOath, and more support them, because it is inspiring the story of Renee believe me I`m not trying to how do you say...??? um advertise them in a bad way to tell you the truth I`m
not even at all trying or is trying to advertise TWLOHA. I`m just posting this because who knows mabe some peoples lives have been change because of them or it really inspires you. I`m posting this to let people have a chance to be heard what ever you think about TWLOHA and why you love the story, I love the story because it is inspiring and also I think it is an amazing story, and I`m not posting this for negativity like some people say bad thing about TWLOHA...... but why ?? Why, would somebody say something like "Oh I`m sick of TWLOHA" and way more horribles thing about TWLOHA why say that because TWLOHA has changed alot of people`s live or just one but Renee who knows but just saving one persons life to me is worth alot even if you don`t know the person. So okay now that I`ve got that off my chest This thread is for people to say what they want and what they think about TWLOHA (and not in a negative or distgusting way) possitivity, also for inspiring stories, lyrics, or things ( oh and books) because it inspires you, now your probably thinking why would I put this in the music section?? Well because I think it belongs here and I know that there is proobably going to be dumbass people that are ganna say shit but they can think what they think but overall this thread is for things (music)that INSPIRE you and I titled it TWLOHA because that is what inspires me.
thanx!! - lots of love - anbermore


my inspiring book ............

Twilight - why??- because it inspires me to find my love- also its an awesome book!

my inspiring lyrics ..................

There are a million lyrics that I think are inspiring but what that I just pulled out of my head right now is... Paramore - We Are Broken......................

I am outside
And I've been waiting for the sun
And with my wide eyes
I've seen worlds that don't belong
My mouth is dry with words I cannot verbalize
Tell me why we live like this

Keep me safe inside
Your arms like towers
Tower over me

Yeah
Cause we are broken
What must we do to restore
Our innocence
And oh the promise we adored
Give us life again cause we just wanna be whole

Lock the doors
Cause I'd like to capture this voice
That came to me tonight
So everyone will have a choice
And under red lights
I'll show myself it wasn't forged
We're at war
We live like this

Keep me safe inside
Your arms like towers
Tower over me

Cause we are broken
What must we do to restore
Our innocence
And oh the promise we adored
Give us life again cause we just wanna be whole

Tower over me
Tower over me

And I'll take the truth at any cost

Cause we are broken
What must we do to restore
Our innocence
And oh the promise we adored
Give us life again cause we just wanna be whole


I know I posted on here before. I love TWLOHA. Its a great group with a great mission. Seems to me this thread has gone from talking about it to debating the Bible. I love talking about the Bible, but this thread is a TWLOHA.

As for inspiring lyrics I really like the song Much Like Falling by Flyleaf

When I said good morning
I was lying
I was truly thinking of
How I might quit waking up

He pointed out how selfish
It would be to kill myself
So I keep waking up

It feels so much like falling
Dying while I wait to die
The fear of something or nothing
Lonely empty lie

I don't want to be here, lying
I don't want to be selfish anymore
I want so much to change
Learning your love everyday
There's still so much to know

You grip my wrists
I let go

It feels so much like falling
Separated from the fear
Aware of a destination far away from here

It feels so much like falling
Separated from the fear
Aware of a destination far away from here
Far away from here

[micahistheballs]

You quote the Old Testament only. I know me stating this point won't change your mind because you prolly don't care about what I have to say, but the New Testament changes everything you quote. Jesus dies and God establishes a new covenant with us through the blood of Christ. Hence why God doesn't lay waste to countries anymore. Jesus changes a lot of how God deals with us now. And so what is the issue with God killing in the Old Testament? He is God. His judgment is righteous. We can't judge His judgement. Read about Sodom and Gomorrah. The towns were wrought with things that went against His law so He delievered His judgment.
God is supposed to be the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. A change of character between testaments is not a good sign of this.
Also, Jesus is supposed to be God incarnate so how would Jesus' character be any different from God's in the old testament? Either God changes his moods whenever he's having a bad day or just a vengeful ass I want nothing to do with.
Jesus was also a Jewish rabbi paying great accordance to the Torah so the old testament is not as irrelevant as you would have us believe in order to hold up your oh so loving and peaceful God. Either he's a genocidal nut or he's not God at all because he changes.

EDIT: Both Acts and Romans are quoted, which are both epistles of Paul found in the New Testament.

[karlwithak]

God is supposed to be the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. A change of character between testaments is not a good sign of this.
Also, Jesus is supposed to be God incarnate so how would Jesus' character be any different from God's in the old testament? Either God changes his moods whenever he's having a bad day or just a vengeful ass I want nothing to do with.
Jesus was also a Jewish rabbi paying great accordance to the Torah so the old testament is not as irrelevant as you would have us believe in order to hold up your oh so loving and peaceful God. Either he's a genocidal nut or he's not God at all because he changes.

EDIT: Both Acts and Romans are quoted, which are both epistles of Paul found in the New Testament.

God's character doesn't change. Before Jesus came to the earth, people lived by His law but couldn't live up to it. They had to make animal sacrifices to atone for their sins. People were also punished for their sins, hence the killing, stoning etc. God upheld His law. Jesus changed that. Now we are made right with God through His blood. We no longer have to try to live up to His law and no longer punish people for breaking His law. Now we accept Jesus or go to Hell. Is God love? Yes, but never did I say that He isn't just, or have a wrath. In fact the Bible says He does.

Now I can sit here and tell about how reliable the Bible is, how its historically, and archeologically proven, and about how Jesus is historically proven. Christianity is rational and intelligent as I am sure many of the people are that post on this thread. Faith come down to the fact if you are willing to believe in God even when you can't physically see or touch Him. Yes, you can see Him in other ways and all the evidence supports He is real, but in the end, you have to have the faith to believe in Him. I can't make you do that, nor can God. He gave you freewill and the choice to look into for yourself. He wants you to believe, not because its what you were taught or because its a tradition, but because you really looked into it and found His love to be the truth it is.

[mattmatumbo]

this thread has brought the lolz

[Art Isn't Safe]

I made this a few months ago, hope you like it. http://i40.tinypic.com/ld2k5.jpg

[underthetalking]

I made this a few months ago, hope you like it. http://i40.tinypic.com/ld2k5.jpg


Hahahaha, please make a t-shirt.

[underthetalking]

You quote the Old Testament only. I know me stating this point won't change your mind because you prolly don't care about what I have to say, but the New Testament changes everything you quote. Jesus dies and God establishes a new covenant with us through the blood of Christ. Hence why God doesn't lay waste to countries anymore. Jesus changes a lot of how God deals with us now. And so what is the issue with God killing in the Old Testament? He is God. His judgment is righteous. We can't judge His judgement. Read about Sodom and Gomorrah. The towns were wrought with things that went against His law so He delievered His judgment.

If you think any of the judgements listed above are righteous, you are out of your fucking mind. Thank goodness people don't actually follow through with these. Besides Hitler, I mean.

[batmannj]

lunchforthesky really fucked him up, the guy probably hasn't stopped crying since he saw that last post.

I didn't cry about anything. I am secure in my faith, and something that a dude posts in a forum isn't going to change my opinion on anything. If I "brought the lolz" or "got PwNeD d00d" awesome. I am glad you enjoyed it.