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shit stroll
12/27/08, 09:57 AM
this is the thread where mht rambles on about bands he likes/dislikes.
ThemChains
12/27/08, 10:00 AM
http://www.centerforhealthysystems.com/images/richmond-va176_ibo3.jpg
SLUDGE
here's how I'll do this, very simple.
I'll discuss one band I like and one band I dislike in separate postings once a day. It's then up to you the reader to debate, argue, agree (like this ever happens), bash me on a personal level, get butthurt over it, etc etc etc, ya know the usual. So without further ado, let's get this Richmond Sludge thread a fun musical discussion. That way all my positive and negative opinions could stay in one (or two, I plan on reviving the MHT rates your music thread soon so) threads :)
a band mht likes:
Renee Heartfelt
http://www.myspace.com/reneeheartfelt
This band gets to pop the positive virginity of this thread because they are fresh on my mind. I recently scored a wonderful Christmas present of their 7'' with an alternative cover pressing /100. How many Croosh points do I get for that? Anyway, it is a wonderful piece of wax (that is non fat guy w/beard splatter on a 19th repress) that I enjoy very much. The irony here is, they are from Richmond, I found that fitting and a little bit of cute humor for the dolt that pigeonholed me as only liking "Richmond Sludge" bands. Well this band is far from Sludge, but they hail from Richmond. They combined that 90s revival that I am a sucker for. More a sucker for than a hot cheerleader type female, but oh well. It's a shame they broke up and spawned to really shitty bands, which arent even worth mentioning they are that bad, but Renee Heartfelt's cataloge keeps me happy. Check them out of you like 90s post hardcore and are looking for something fresh in the indie/rock/post hardcore catagory.
a band mht dislikes:
A Wilhelm Scream
http://www.myspace.com/awilhelmscream
This was probably very wrong for me to start off with a band like this (because the backlash could be overwelming on this website with how many fans they have here, but oh well.) Why I think this band is overrated cock sucking shit music:
1. Every intro is the same, yes.
2. They are like a tech metal myspace metalcore band that meets an orgcore vocalist. So Between the Buried and Me's musical structure with None More Black or The Larry Arms vocal style. What a fucking horrid combo, and I like None More Black too, but that is just a bad musical fusion.
3. This band would be exactly the same sounding as Protest the Hero if you took the vocalists from both bands out, which in fact I thought it was the same members at first.
4. There is just too many shitty bands to compare them too, especially metalcore techy shit, I could go on all day. And then all you need to do is pick any orgcore bands vocal style and it sounds exactly like it! How do people like this nonsense?!
I don't know, I don't see the appeal, why not just listen to better bands doing this fusion of poop and poop but while its not so blanatly bad like this. I probably like a couple bands like A Wilhelm Scream so let me see if I can end on a good foot here,
3 better bands than AWS, but play the same style, you should check out are:
3. f9BCsbD2Fso
Whats better: Vocal range, the musicianship is more simple (but yet has some good parts), who the fuck decided complex musicianship is "punk?" idiots. Pretty straight forward on why it's better, but you still get the AWS feel.
2. f6CZpcK88WU
This one might be a reach musically/vocally, BUT, AWS seems to get a lot of praise for their INTELLIGENT AND AMAZING lyrical content. Yeah well Ignite is basically the next level in comparison to that and shits all over AWS lyrically, if you like the lyrical structure in AWS, this band would be no different, with the positive being their music is much better.
1. 2laCgk9burw
This one is pretty obvious here. Any fan of Polar Hype Club should know this, but they probably have no clue that Marathon was the first and the better. Shits all over AWS and doesn't have all that cheesy over the top bad basslines and time changing fills. Just straight to the point, how it should be done.
Jumpoff
12/27/08, 12:27 PM
I actually dislike Wilhelm Scream too. I'm tired of people telling me they are similiar to Propagandhi. Wilhelm is garbage.
yay my first agree! <3
now I'm sure Rodeo and Colorblind will come in and tell me what an utter life failure I am with no friends because I hate a band they like... here it comes...
people tell you they are similar to Propagandhi because people actually think A Wilhelm Screams lyrics are thought provoking, which is hilarious in itself, so they compare them to really good bands like Propagandhi.
DjJazzyGeoff
12/27/08, 12:33 PM
Thank you for posting this, I was starting to actually believe I had a bad taste in music because I couldn't get into AWS for the life of me. So many people love them, and I thought they were generic as hell and nothing enjoyable, I was starting to think there was something wrong with me. I mean, I love orgcore or whatever you mold them into, but I can't get past 2-3 songs without wanting to switch artists
I mold them into cock sucking shit music, which is a step below orgcore actually.
LendMeYourBrain
12/27/08, 12:50 PM
can you explain to why hot water music sucks so much?
maybe tomorrow or the next day, I'm only doing one positive/one negative a day!
shit stroll
12/27/08, 12:55 PM
people tell you they are similar to Propagandhi because people actually think A Wilhelm Screams lyrics are thought provoking, which is hilarious in itself, so they compare them to really good bands like Propagandhi.
i was actually going to ask you if you like propagandhi, glad to see that you do. i love a wilhelm scream but i can understand why some people might not care for 'em. and what is the band you rec'd before ignite? the computer i'm on won't display videos.
i was actually going to ask you if you like propagandhi, glad to see that you do. i love a wilhelm scream but i can understand why some people might not care for 'em. and what is the band you rec'd before ignite? the computer i'm on won't display videos.
3. Belvedere
2. Ignite
1. Marathon
Colorblind!
12/27/08, 01:35 PM
I don't think you're a failure, haha. I just think you're very harsh about your negative opinions.
That being said, I don't like AWS either, and I really enjoy Belvedere and Ignite. Never heard Marathon before today, but it sounds pretty good.
Never heard of Renee Heartfelt either until listening right now, and I don't think they would ever crack my top 10 bands or anything, it's pretty solid.
you never heard of Marathon but jock the living shit out of Polar Bear Club? That makes no sense ever.
Colorblind!
12/27/08, 02:30 PM
Why not?
I really enjoy the music polar bear club makes, doesn't mean I have to know of all of their predecessors to understand or something.
LendMeYourBrain
12/27/08, 03:52 PM
man the guy who first said "richmond sludge" must've been a real d bag
Hey Kevin
12/27/08, 03:54 PM
willhelm scream are awful
or have we moved on?
Why not?
I really enjoy the music polar bear club makes, doesn't mean I have to know of all of their predecessors to understand or something.
it's almost like saying I listen to Ozzy but never heard of Black Sabbath before.
Colorblind!
12/27/08, 04:04 PM
Shit, better get into marathon then if that's the requirement to listen to music I already listen to?
Sarcasm aside, I do enjoy marathon from the video you posted.
yes it is a requirement actually, especially for you jocking Polar Bear Club. Because one could make the argument there would be no PBC without Marathon so...
Colorblind!
12/27/08, 04:19 PM
I am already planning on looking into marathon, but I should be able to enjoy polar bear club without knowing this band, Sometimes Things Just Disappear didn't come with any pre-requisites listed anywhere.
no you shouldn't actually. That's like saying I enjoy Henry Rollins Spoken Words but I am not a fan of Black Flag. Come on now, use your brain here.
Blake Solomon
12/27/08, 04:32 PM
in a completely irrelevant sidenote, i may be moving to richmond for grad school
humanafterall
12/27/08, 04:47 PM
I like this thread.
Renee Heartfelt = fucking awesome.
And, for the record, I am only an occasional listener of A Wilhelm Scream. Make fun all you want. Nothing to get in a twist over.
Marathon is absolutely fucking incredible as well.
This is a great thread so far. I am liking what I see. :-)
Colorblind!
12/27/08, 08:45 PM
no you shouldn't actually. That's like saying I enjoy Henry Rollins Spoken Words but I am not a fan of Black Flag. Come on now, use your brain here.
I'll try, but I'm only sixteen remember? We don't have brains.
I liked polar bear club before even knowing of Marathon's existence, so there must be some flaw in your theory, but I will find some Marathon.
I'm curious to see what some of the other bands you like are going to be.
in a completely irrelevant sidenote, i may be moving to richmond for grad school
VCU? Cool deal man hope it works out for you.
ThemChains
12/27/08, 11:57 PM
in a completely irrelevant sidenote, i may be moving to richmond for grad school
I can't go to VCU for grad school.
llwilliamsll
12/28/08, 12:34 AM
Cease on this Polar Bear Club talk. Fuck them until they open a god damn lemonade stand outside the Fireside Bowl and become maters of profits.
I like this thread, should be very entertaining.
So far:
Renee Heartfelt: Borrrrrrrrrrrrrring
A Wilhelm Scream: Not good, completely agree
Polar Bear Club: Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad
a band mht likes:
Robots and Empire
http://www.myspace.com/robotsandempire
Probably my favorite current hardcore band making music. Pretty much enough said. Hardcore is a pretty terrible genre filled with a lot of shit right now but this is one of the few bands that keeps it... dare I say... worth anyone's time.
a band mht dislikes:
Bon Iver
http://www.myspace.com/boniver
How fucking overrated can a band get in one year? Apparently a lot. This utter cock sucking generic shit music somehow wins over the hearts of many and it's no different from thousands of artists who do this formula better or have done it better years prior. I call this piece of shit band/release the equal to all the hype and love The Ocean - Precambrian got in 2007. I know they aren't the same sounding, but its basically the same concept, both taking a generic formula and people so inept to living daily life that probably suffer from major brain damage apparently like it. Artists like this just show what trends are becoming "cool" to like and what's cool to bandwagon on each year. Can only imagine what style/band will be in the "IN" Bon Iver or The Ocean in 2009.
We agree on so much... hahah.. man.. I think its punk that we differ. Everything else is spot on.
give it time, as this continues you won't be saying that. just consider it luck right now.
Colorblind!
12/28/08, 12:22 PM
I never thought of Robots and Empire as a hardcore band. It's different, but pretty cool. I could see myself enjoying this.
Bon Iver doesn't seem all that bad to me, but I don't really enjoy it.
EDIT: Listened. Actually really enjoy it.
I'll try, but I'm only sixteen remember? We don't have brains.
.
Absolute truth.
Robots And Empire sound gooooooooood
give it time, as this continues you won't be saying that. just consider it luck right now.
haha will do! I did take your advice though, I'm gonna lighten up and blah blah blah. Sorry for the shit that was said before.
Continue.
I never thought of Robots and Empire as a hardcore band. It's different, but pretty cool. I could see myself enjoying this.
Bon Iver doesn't seem all that bad to me, but I don't really enjoy it.
EDIT: Listened. Actually really enjoy it.
it's not different. it's what hardcore SHOULD sound like. They take their influences and use them very well to the point where you can hear it. That sound/style was around way before the current B9 roster and Deathwish Inc roster which is "todays hype hardcore" music.
LendMeYourBrain
12/28/08, 02:18 PM
too richmond sludgy
cant wait for when I post an actual richmond sludge band, if they even exist?
Regards
12/28/08, 02:55 PM
Myspace's music player doesn't seem to like my computer, or I would check out Robots and Empire, but I love Bon Iver.
ThemChains
12/28/08, 03:42 PM
cant wait for when I post an actual richmond sludge band, if they even exist?
Cough would be the closest thing.
LendMeYourBrain
12/28/08, 06:11 PM
Cough would be the closest thing.
Mike being the next
Pennsylvania's shitty Hot Cross band being the third.
oh wait that's just called Trendy Electro now, not Richmond Sludge, MY BAD HOMIE
ThisIsNotDan
12/28/08, 08:05 PM
I liked Renee Heartfelt when you rec'd them to me, and I could see people not liking A Wilhelm Scream, obviously, but... "tech metal myspace metalcore"? mindboggling how you came up with that
summer skin
12/28/08, 08:37 PM
Mike, can you explain Hot Water Music's appeal to me?
ThisIsNotDan
12/28/08, 08:40 PM
nope. there maybe some "tech" involved, but I hear no myspace metalcore/BTBAM sound whatsoever. don't agree with that at all
also, funny how Failure and Quicksand are right next to each other on Robots and Empire's top whatever, because they sound like if Walter replaced Ken Andrews in Failure
every AWS intro sounds exactly like a DEP intro. there is no different. Play the King is Dead and Black Bubblegum. Vocally different but musically it's that same lame shit formula of bad.
ThisIsNotDan
12/28/08, 09:07 PM
they both have a "soft" intro, but other than that they don't really sound the same. you could've used a better example, I think.
Colorblind!
12/28/08, 09:25 PM
Absolute truth.
Ignored.
it's not different. it's what hardcore SHOULD sound like. They take their influences and use them very well to the point where you can hear it. That sound/style was around way before the current B9 roster and Deathwish Inc roster which is "todays hype hardcore" music.
I know today's hype hardcore is not what hardcore was/should be. I do enjoy it, but I'm not ignorant. I'm completely open to your opinions, I don't know why you think I will automatically hate everything you enjoy.
I listened to Quicksand a while ago and couldn't get into it, and this sounds kind of like Quicksand(if I remember correctly?) except I like this alot more.
ThisIsNotDan
12/28/08, 09:28 PM
I know today's hype hardcore is not what hardcore was/should be. I do enjoy it, but I'm not ignorant. I'm completely open to your opinions, I don't know why you think I will automatically hate everything you enjoy.
I listened to Quicksand a while ago and couldn't get into it, and this sounds kind of like Quicksand(if I remember correctly?) except I like this alot more.
haha no need to get bent out of shape over it. he fucks with alot of people
wewascontenders
12/28/08, 09:35 PM
i feel left out, i've never been fuxed with.
how is fucking with him explaining to him todays hardcore is hype and not what actual hardcore sounded like in the 80s or 90s?
ThisIsNotDan
12/28/08, 09:52 PM
I'm saying you two's exchanges in general, not just that statement. he takes you way too seriously from what I've read, like you hate him or something. your statement had nothing to do with it. forgive me, it is almost 1 am. awareness level goin down down in a lullyluhrah goin down swingin
Colorblind!
12/28/08, 09:52 PM
He actually hasn't fucked with me at all so far in this thread! He's been reasonably helpful haha.
Edit: Our encounters are usually harsh, it's true, but I mostly just have fun with it. He knows his stuff and I don't, and I'm pretty aware of that.
ThemChains
12/29/08, 12:22 AM
Richmond Sludge (http://www.myspace.com/cough666)
Scope that shit.
how is fucking with him explaining to him todays hardcore is hype and not what actual hardcore sounded like in the 80s or 90s?
I'm going to take the shitty path and get technical here, but we are talking about post-hardcore, not hardcore, right?
Robots and Empire sound like they take a lot of influence from early post-hardcore bands like Drive Like Jehu, Jawbox, Hoover, Lungfish, etc...
I'm going to take the shitty path and get technical here, but we are talking about post-hardcore, not hardcore, right?
Robots and Empire sound like they take a lot of influence from early post-hardcore bands like Drive Like Jehu, Jawbox, Hoover, Lungfish, etc...
or they sound like every NYHC band from the 90s with Black Sabbath type guitar riffs you mean.
the encounters are only harsh because him and his tag team partner Rodeo get personal when bashing me, because they get(got) upset over god damn fucking musical opinions, and they turn into a personal bash fest just because I don't like generic orgcore band a and overrated hype band b. Thus this thread was formed, so my negativity can stay out of their threads if they choose to make them about whatever bands they like.
Naw, I stopped, dude and I already apologized to you for that. Water under the bridge now? Second chance, fresh start, etc?
or they sound like every NYHC band from the 90s with Black Sabbath type guitar riffs you mean.
I would disagree on the surface, although you've got me because I don't know enough about early 90s NYHC bands that sound this way, besides Quicksand, who I would consider post-hardcore.
Robots and Empire's myspace even mentions post-hardcore everywhere.
"Renee Heartfelt breathes new life into an old idea that's been corrupted by misuse, oversaturation, and bad records. Do you remember when post-hardcore sounded like Quicksand? It sounded exactly the way it was supposed to sound, in a very exciting way - it sounded like progression. It was music made by boys who had grown into men. These days, post-hardcore has become a catchall phrase for pop-punk in a suit. When the hardcore legends are abandoning art to embrace the almighty dollar, hope lies in Renee Heartfelt's masterful debut full-length "Death of the Ghost." "
Their influences are mixed, and they go on to say they are mix between post-hardcore, hardcore, and rock. So maybe we are both right.
I would disagree on the surface, although you've got me because I don't know enough about early 90s NYHC bands that sound this way, besides Quicksand, who I would consider post-hardcore.
Robots and Empire's myspace even mentions post-hardcore everywhere.
"Renee Heartfelt breathes new life into an old idea that's been corrupted by misuse, oversaturation, and bad records. Do you remember when post-hardcore sounded like Quicksand? It sounded exactly the way it was supposed to sound, in a very exciting way - it sounded like progression. It was music made by boys who had grown into men. These days, post-hardcore has become a catchall phrase for pop-punk in a suit. When the hardcore legends are abandoning art to embrace the almighty dollar, hope lies in Renee Heartfelt's masterful debut full-length "Death of the Ghost." "
Their influences are mixed, and they go on to say they are mix between post-hardcore, hardcore, and rock. So maybe we are both right.
Wait, are you talking about Robots and Empire or Renee Heartfelt? Because the passage you quoted is talking about RH.
I would disagree on the surface, although you've got me because I don't know enough about early 90s NYHC bands that sound this way, besides Quicksand, who I would consider post-hardcore.
Robots and Empire's myspace even mentions post-hardcore everywhere.
"Renee Heartfelt breathes new life into an old idea that's been corrupted by misuse, oversaturation, and bad records. Do you remember when post-hardcore sounded like Quicksand? It sounded exactly the way it was supposed to sound, in a very exciting way - it sounded like progression. It was music made by boys who had grown into men. These days, post-hardcore has become a catchall phrase for pop-punk in a suit. When the hardcore legends are abandoning art to embrace the almighty dollar, hope lies in Renee Heartfelt's masterful debut full-length "Death of the Ghost." "
Their influences are mixed, and they go on to say they are mix between post-hardcore, hardcore, and rock. So maybe we are both right.
Robots and Empire's influences:
Black Sabbath, Cave In, Failure, Quicksand, Into Another, Hum, Shiner, Bad Brains, Radiohead, Stevie Wonder, Giants Chair, Keyshia Cole, Cast Iron Hike, Chavez, Crazy Horse, Jeff Buckley, Fugazi, Kim Thayil, Bloodlet, Pink Floyd, Stillsuit, Burn, Dissolve + tons more ...
definitely bolded the hardcore, also I don't see any post hardcore, just a lot of Rock, Indie, Metal influences. Closest post hardcorish listing they have is Fugazi and that still isnt even close.
Robots and Empire's influences:
Black Sabbath, Cave In, Failure, Quicksand, Into Another, Hum, Shiner, Bad Brains, Radiohead, Stevie Wonder, Giants Chair, Keyshia Cole, Cast Iron Hike, Chavez, Crazy Horse, Jeff Buckley, Fugazi, Kim Thayil, Bloodlet, Pink Floyd, Stillsuit, Burn, Dissolve + tons more ...
definitely bolded the hardcore, also I don't see any post hardcore, just a lot of Rock, Indie, Metal influences. Closest post hardcorish listing they have is Fugazi and that still isnt even close.
Shouldn't Bloodlet be bolded?
a band mht likes:
Boy Problems
http://www.myspace.com/boyproblemsphilly
Let's face it, this was probably one of the best supergroups formed on the east coast of my generation (the 2000s era). Not only THE best band from Philly, but the BEST short lived (:() band also. These are all facts you cannot argue. You cannot find a band from PA with more potential than this band, but this goes to show you cannot put this many skramz elitists with credible backgrounds (and possible egos) together in one band, because it blows up like a giant nuke. Members of this band have play/played in: Storm the Bastille, Make Me, Street Smart Cyclist, Cassilis, Harrison Bergeron, etc etc etc. Enough said really. I firmly believe if this band didn't break up they would have single handely revived what is considered a dead genre today.
sorry didn't see Bloodlet jammed between two artists you can smoke more pot to than stage dive to.
sorry didn't see Bloodlet jammed between two artists you can smoke more pot to than stage dive to.
bhahah too true.
LendMeYourBrain
12/29/08, 01:08 PM
a band mht likes:
Boy Problems
http://www.myspace.com/boyproblemsphilly
Let's face it, this was probably one of the best supergroups formed on the east coast of my generation (the 2000s era). Not only THE best band from Philly, but the BEST short lived (:() band also. These are all facts you cannot argue. You cannot find a band from PA with more potential than this band, but this goes to show you cannot put this many skramz elitists with credible backgrounds (and possible egos) together in one band, because it blows up like a giant nuke. Members of this band have play/played in: Storm the Bastille, Make Me, Street Smart Cyclist, Cassilis, Harrison Bergeron, etc etc etc. Enough said really. I firmly believe if this band didn't break up they would have single handely revived what is considered a dead genre today.
Wha? I thought they were still going
LendMeYourBrain
12/29/08, 01:08 PM
and whats up with Snowing? still nothing recorded?
pretty sure they broke up. what richmond sludge hole have you been hiding under?
LendMeYourBrain
12/29/08, 01:12 PM
ThemChain's hole
I thought when SSC broke up they talked about how Boy Problems was gonna be a more full time thing, although that was 6 months ago
the thread
12/29/08, 02:31 PM
its totally the skramz things to release a tour demo, play a 2 week tour, then break up and then form another band that sounds the same. or at least thats how every philly band operates.
i am pretty sure boy problems was an attempted collection of the who's who of relevant skramz philly area bands. they came together, didnt work out with not one, but two lineups and thus... I am heartbroken :-(
Is the song by Boy Problems called "I Swallowed a Bug" a reference to the line from the movie The Sword in the Stone where Arthur says "Merlin, I Swallowed A Bug"?
sure. skramz kids sing about cutesy shit like that.
sure. skramz kids sing about cutesy shit like that.
"This is my tigersuit! This is my tigersuit!"
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Colorblind!
12/29/08, 06:26 PM
the encounters are only harsh because him and his tag team partner Rodeo get personal when bashing me, because they get(got) upset over god damn fucking musical opinions, and they turn into a personal bash fest just because I don't like generic orgcore band a and overrated hype band b. Thus this thread was formed, so my negativity can stay out of their threads if they choose to make them about whatever bands they like.
Let's leave the PBC thread drama behind, that was stupid of me. I don't think I ever got too personal, but the word douchebag was thrown around quite liberally so I apologize for that. You didn't post a band you didn't like for today, I'm curious!
TheBaroness
12/29/08, 07:58 PM
"This is my tigersuit! This is my tigersuit!"
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lol
crazy Italians
Regards
12/30/08, 06:48 AM
What happened to the band you don't like in yesterday's post? I'm a bit disappointed.
it's coming today, a double shot of shit is what I like to call it.
Colorblind!
12/30/08, 11:07 AM
oh god.
Colorblind's two favorite bands most likely. ;-)
no i am not bashing verse and have heart. relax
shit stroll
12/30/08, 01:55 PM
please don't bash hot water music. that is all i ask.
please don't bash hot water music. that is all i ask.
yeah, as long as that doesn't happen we're good. haha.
BlinkinDuke
12/30/08, 05:24 PM
Mike, do you ever not rec Boy Problems? Not that I have anything against it as they are a gnar band but it seems that you've recced them enough that everyone should have listened to them by now and subsequently fallen in love with that demo.
And for HWM, really? I'm curious to see what Mike says outside of them being just like every other org-core band out there
And finally, Ben, whats the deal with Ariadne's Thread? You guys finally stop playing cuz I think I'm gonna kill myself with all the shit bands coming to Ann Arbor while all the good ones go to fucking Grand Rapids
Colorblind!
12/30/08, 08:45 PM
no i am not bashing verse and have heart. relax
why not? do you not mind verse?
and those are probably top 10, but not my two favorites. Not like my favorites would be any less of "hype bands"
Mike, do you ever not rec Boy Problems? Not that I have anything against it as they are a gnar band but it seems that you've recced them enough that everyone should have listened to them by now and subsequently fallen in love with that demo.
I hadn't heard anyone mention that band until this thread. Maybe I don't read enough.
ThisIsNotDan
12/30/08, 08:56 PM
there better be a new year's special because you've been slacking, nard
the thread
12/30/08, 09:10 PM
And finally, Ben, whats the deal with Ariadne's Thread? You guys finally stop playing cuz I think I'm gonna kill myself with all the shit bands coming to Ann Arbor while all the good ones go to fucking Grand Rapids
Yeah, we just gave up. If you can, go check out Supercontinent though. I know a few of the guys in that band, and most of them are pretty solid guys. They play every now and then in AA, since they all live there. It seems like the western part of the state has a lot more going on, with K-zoo and GR booking a lot of shows lately. It seems the only problem is that its really just the same bands over and over, and most of the kids are d-bags. I really don't get out anymore, I have not spoken with nor been to a DIY show in almost a year now, partly because the people here suck. Lansing had a lot of pretty cool kids and as of July, they all moved or threw in the towel.
I think I discussed Boy Problems once outside the Emo Thread, which 5 of you read anyway...and this website is pretty fucking big so, I don't know. Touche' not Amore I guess. Ya got me BlinkinDude.
Colorblind!
12/31/08, 01:25 PM
double bump.
humanafterall
12/31/08, 03:08 PM
Where are zee bands.
Mike is a busy man.
I'm sure we'll all see an awesome update soon.
Colorblind!
01/01/09, 03:34 AM
It better have like three bands he hates.
Colorblind!
01/02/09, 12:06 AM
up the bumps.
LendMeYourBrain
01/02/09, 11:41 AM
mikes like "don't bother me, i'm busy making of 30k a year"
Geoffthurs
01/02/09, 11:00 PM
a band mht likes:
Robots and Empire
http://www.myspace.com/robotsandempire
Probably my favorite current hardcore band making music. Pretty much enough said. Hardcore is a pretty terrible genre filled with a lot of shit right now but this is one of the few bands that keeps it... dare I say... worth anyone's time.
I really like this. Thanks for the heads up. And I'm not trying to be argumentative but it does sound more like post hardcore to me-- definitely hear the quicksand/burn/into another influence, which to me was the era when hardcore kids started making post hardcore music, covering the smiths and using suspended 9 chords and shit. It doesn't really matter though good=good.
stayillogical
01/02/09, 11:04 PM
I plan on reviving the MHT rates your music thread soon
Hahahaha, yes please. I was thinking about it the other day and was tempted to revive it with a new list.
Edit: WUT? Geoff/Mike truce?
mikes like "don't bother me, i'm busy making of 30k a year"
as long as it is more than the monetary value of whatever splatter heisel is making jocking orgcore, that's what I'm busy doing.
I really like this. Thanks for the heads up. And I'm not trying to be argumentative but it does sound more like post hardcore to me-- definitely hear the quicksand/burn/into another influence, which to me was the era when hardcore kids started making post hardcore music, covering the smiths and using suspended 9 chords and shit. It doesn't really matter though good=good.
I consider most of the bands hardcore I guess. An experimental New York style. The first Burn 7'' though, is up their for one of the best hardcore releases, if not most influential. I can see how they got a little post hardcoreish/rock style with the reunion though and those release(s). I think to me Robots and Empire and those bands are just using Black Sabbath riffs and going from their, for todays generation. Most of what I listen to on Robots and Empire at least, is just a poppier/uptempo Black Sabbath lines to my ears of joy.
a band mht dislikes
American Nightmare/Give Up the Ghost
http://www.myspace.com/giveuptheghosthxc
Obviously this is maybe the first band I am discussing that I dislike that may have some draw by lurkers or users that I like (or like me). So let's get some things out of the way.
I like/listen to: a couple of AN songs in my day. Don't get me wrong. Listenable, but never once did it impact me like the way this band is praised as.
One of my only defenses/arguments here that saves me from being purely flamed by every fanboy that likes this band on an emotion level is that half (maybe all?) the members even dislike the state of their own band, what they once were, how the genre/style turned out, etc etc. That one member that unloaded all his limited AN/GutG stuff on ebay over the summer?!: Yeah he didn't have the nicest descriptions in the world about his former band, mostly tongue in cheek. And if he was unloading that stuff, he showed a side that maybe this band didn't really mean that much. To many, most kids that you can pick off the street or at a show, all dressed a like with tons of splatter vinyl at home to fill enough Ikea expedits that burn a hole in the parents wallet because they are spoiled, this band is the hardcore gods of our era. The saviors at the turn of the century. No band coming up/catching fire in the last 5 years would exist in punk music if it wasn't for this band blah blah blah emotional lyrics impact my life blah blah blah blah. Every kid says/reacts the same way to this band when talking about them. They love it so much it impacts their life. That is fine, but its impacting these kids lives in the same way, every day... all the way to conforming to an image that reflects a genre. Was this the type of things Wes wanted to escape? Are these the same kids on why this band stopped being a band? Why can't one find their own indentity? Why was their splatter vinyl and friends presses more important than going to see them live? I mean I know I don't have room to talk because I am one of the biggest jockers of No Warning around here, and well, you can rip me an asshole for liking them. But Ill Blood never changed my life, it brings fun to my life yes, but at the end of every relationship, when a girl breaks up with me because I am a pussy, or she cheats on me, or because my pants are too tight, my nike dunks are too bright and my new era hat is to fitted, and that I am more into vinyl and playing video games than giving her the time of day... once she is gone, and I am a whipped idiot and know what I lost, I put on this band, because emotionally I connect to it. For every hardcore depressed kid its this band they turned to when a girl breaks their heart or they poop wrong or life stinks and they are sad. These are the same kids that go out in public and have this "tough mentality."
It just seems like all a joke to me. Did anybody actually ever like this band for the music? I find that hard to believe. It seems like they went over looked because kids that found them way past their prime and got too attatched. Why do I feel that now, in 2009, that this band is more popular/liked then when they actually were an active band, I mean... that doesn't make sense or anything. You could say they "caught on..." but is "catching on some random spoiled white kid selling a rare record of theirs for 200+ dollars on ebay to another spoiled kid that thinks he has a clue what punk is? I don't know... you decide, because in 5 or 10 years, there might be a band right now that ends up just like this... and our stupidity will make us miss the boat on them, only for our hearts to fall in love with it. Seems like a lame circle to me.
I also think there are better, or just as good bands of this time that go completely under the radar because of the over compensation this band gets. Which is probably also a huge factor on why I dislike them. Most kids write everything else off as shitty just because it wasn't "Were Down..." or "Background Music" during this time frame. I don't think that is fair.
Colorblind!
01/03/09, 09:38 AM
I listen to this band quite a bit, but in no way would I say they changed my life. ThemChains told me to go find Background Music, and I did. It's good, but I wouldn't say it's one of my favorite albums of all time. Maybe I needed to see them live to understand, but I don't quite get all the hype. I do think they were a solid hardcore band.
I'm curious to see which bands you think got overlooked because of them?
In the American Nightmare thread I posted that this band is not overrated. I take it back. That was before i gave in and went on the b9 board. Every user jocks this band to shit. holy fuck. i enjoy background music but its not life altering. dude is just pissed cause girls dont like him.
In the American Nightmare thread I posted that this band is not overrated. I take it back. That was before i gave in and went on the b9 board. Every user jocks this band to shit. holy fuck. i enjoy background music but its not life altering. dude is just pissed cause girls dont like him.
and every thread on the b9 is the exact same when talking about this band. "This band as impacted me on an emotional level that when I am sad or heartbroken I put the albums on." ... and does that also mean then at a live show you can throw a couch when they play? The correlations with some kids and the band are/were so absurd I feel like I kind of can feel WHY they broke up. Deserving so. I am fine when girls don't like me, and if they don't I don't need a hardcore band with members that now hate the genre to try to "connect" to because of it. I'd just listen to Some Girls instead. Hey, like they say, "You'll Be Happier With Lower Standards." That's more my pace.
a band mht dislikes
Hot Water Music
http://www.myspace.com/hotwatermusic
Why do I hate this band so much...? Is it because one of the members is in/toured in Senses Fail? and Buddy pretends to be a hardcore elitist wearing a Bane shirt every night to 13 year old girls like he has a clue? Is it because I am a disgruntled None More Black fan that wish NMB received the over love that HWM has over the years? Is it the abundance of represses and splatter vinyl and ebay inflation? Is it the image that is PBR, flannel, beards, fat kids, ugly girls (like my ex)? Tons of reason. The music isn't even... good though. I mean I could give credit if the music was good to go with all those lame cliches I just mentioned. They aren't WHY I hate this band, but they are the easy targets to make the same re-hashed shitty jokes over. I am obviously one of the few in the minority about the Alk3 side being better than the HWM side but sue me. Alk3's drummer did Destruction by Definition, and that album is the most influential punk/ska/hardcore album of our era in my opinion. It tops anything in HWM's discography, thus Alk3 trumps them there for me. Alk3 has a lot of redux/represses too. But whatever. It's not really about the splatter vinyl, though it is easy to joke and say it is. The music does suck. Let's be real here. It's like a little kids version of Fugazi for kids with down syndrome. It's music that is stripped down for kids so inept for something simple and generic that I cannot wrap my head around it. Now that might offend some of you, and some of you might say to me, but Narddogg, "it's not RICHMOND SLUDGE with 5 fans that you are so edgy to like with it's complex guitar harmonies tuned so low your dad grandfather can hear it in his grave." You correct sir. They are worse than that. Power chords and raspy voices...these bands all sound the same. I can't tell the difference between a HWM, Larry Arms, Against Me song to save my life really. They are playing and singing about the same thing. Then you have these up and coming bands like Landmines and Young Livers and this shit is all the same. Splatter vinyl, PBR, fatties in flannel listening to the same exact rehashed generic shit. Why? Are they not smart enough to like some intelligent? I don't know. These bands sing about beer and how they fall out of flavor with punk chicks. Honestly. I need a remedy because this shit is cock sucking music to my ears.
Burn That Shit
01/03/09, 12:25 PM
a band mht dislikes
Hot Water Music
http://www.myspace.com/hotwatermusic
Why do I hate this band so much...? Is it because one of the members is in/toured in Senses Fail? and Buddy pretends to be a hardcore elitist wearing a Bane shirt every night to 13 year old girls like he has a clue? Is it because I am a disgruntled None More Black fan that wish NMB received the over love that HWM has over the years? Is it the abundance of represses and splatter vinyl and ebay inflation? Is it the image that is PBR, flannel, beards, fat kids, ugly girls (like my ex)? Tons of reason. The music isn't even... good though. I mean I could give credit if the music was good to go with all those lame cliches I just mentioned. They aren't WHY I hate this band, but they are the easy targets to make the same re-hashed shitty jokes over. I am obviously one of the few in the minority about the Alk3 side being better than the HWM side but sue me. Alk3's drummer did Destruction by Definition, and that album is the most influential punk/ska/hardcore album of our era in my opinion. It tops anything in HWM's discography, thus Alk3 trumps them there for me. Alk3 has a lot of redux/represses too. But whatever. It's not really about the splatter vinyl, though it is easy to joke and say it is. The music does suck. Let's be real here. It's like a little kids version of Fugazi for kids with down syndrome. It's music that is stripped down for kids so inept for something simple and generic that I cannot wrap my head around it. Now that might offend some of you, and some of you might say to me, but Narddogg, "it's not RICHMOND SLUDGE with 5 fans that you are so edgy to like with it's complex guitar harmonies tuned so low your dad grandfather can hear it in his grave." You correct sir. They are worse than that. Power chords and raspy voices...these bands all sound the same. I can't tell the difference between a HWM, Larry Arms, Against Me song to save my life really. They are playing and singing about the same thing. Then you have these up and coming bands like Landmines and Young Livers and this shit is all the same. Splatter vinyl, PBR, fatties in flannel listening to the same exact rehashed generic shit. Why? Are they not smart enough to like some intelligent? I don't know. These bands sing about beer and how they fall out of flavor with punk chicks. Honestly. I need a remedy because this shit is cock sucking music to my ears.
Shut the fuck up.
struck a nerve i see or you are really stupid.
wewascontenders
01/03/09, 12:29 PM
i enjoy both HWM and AN to a good degree, but to say either has changed my life beyond the pleasure of listening to one or the other would be a extremely huge stretch.
In between all the shitty jokes about pigeonholing HWM fans as PBR, fat, flannel, bearded idiots like yourself, I still made some good points or a decent argument at least. And by your response as "shut the fuck up" you are proving my intelligence lacking comment about their generic simple music correct for your feeble little mind. So, that's a feel good post for me.
I am just getting started with the hate trains too.
Burn That Shit
01/03/09, 12:35 PM
In between all the shitty jokes about pigeonholing HWM fans as PBR, fat, flannel, bearded idiots like yourself, I still made some good points or a decent argument at least. And by your response as "shut the fuck up" you are proving my intelligence lacking comment about their generic simple music correct for your feeble little mind. So, that's a feel good post for me.
Stop throwing your opinion around like it has any weight other than the 15 posters on this site who mindlessly listen to everything you spew out of your mouth.
LendMeYourBrain
01/03/09, 12:36 PM
Hot Water Music is better than Gorlock, Phoenix Bodies, whatever hardcore band you posted in the beginning and any hardcore band you like.
wewascontenders
01/03/09, 12:37 PM
apparently you're one of the 15.
LendMeYourBrain
01/03/09, 12:37 PM
and Mike. you change your damn opinion so much. its influenced on whats cool, and what people don't know about. a year ago you jocked bear vs shark and american nightmare, now you talk about how your better than others because you don't like them.
a band mht dislikes:
Page Ninety9
http://www.myspace.com/pageninetynine
Doesn't matter how I write their name. This band is still one of the shittiest overrated bands possibly ever. Now two posts above I butt hurt the hardcore kids, a post above I struck a nerve already with the fat bearded virgin orgcore kids, and now for some reason I feel a need to tango with the crusties and skramz that refuse to shower so much they could beat me with their smell and Yaphet Kotto t-shirts. But anyway, we aren't discussing why their idol now does electronica music for the Philadelphia club scene (that's a different future posting). So onto this. The thread title is "Richmond Sludge." Think about it. This thread was made for me as a joke to me, made fun of/started by a skramz head that posts on vlv/deadformat that I like some psuedo sludge but correlates that mostly every band I love is from the fucking eastern coast Richmond area. I am not even from Richmond, the dice just happen to fall that 15 out of the 20 bands I might be currently listening to are all from that area. More coincidence than anything, but I would definitely move there/live there as it could be a scene I enjoy a lot. Anyway, it would make sense that I like this band seeing as they are from the heart of music on the east coast as we know out (fuck you boston, Sterling VA will always be better.) But yeah, I find them a tad (or a lot) bit overrated. Your argument against me liking this band is simple: Michael none of the bands from Virginia you jock today wouldn't exist because of this band. Yes you are correct. Why I even like some of their post-pg9nine projects. How do I even argue around that? I don't. But what I can say is that this band set an overrated sword in a stone for other bands like Circle Takes the Square to pick up. Why does one need to be so hyped to an extent it makes the music worse? I don't know. The logic here is, where were all these kids that like this band when this band was active? Maybe these guys wouldn't have to be playing in their 20 new bands that spawned from this at one time 15 member band. As for the album listings. I find that to be one of the cheesiest concepts in music, but to every kid that doesn't shower it's one of the greatest. I don't get it. There are plenty of spazz/chaotic bands that have done it better or just as good that go completely unnoticed where this band gets praised. A Racebannon set during this time was doing the exact same thing, but it didn't appeal to kids because their jeans and image wasn't tight enough. To me this band did not pioneer anything but a fucking dead genre that is breathing its last breath at the turn of 2009. Unless their folk project turns like an ode to pg 99 on their future split with metal legends Thou, this genre will be over soon enough. I feel this is one of the many bands we have to thank for that, for not spawning anything in the future. I cannot touch on the DIY side of things because I can agree they were on the best DIY bands and did everything themselves. I respect that. The music on the other hand, spazz music of Racebannon and Le Show and Void and the Faith that sounds all the same. Doesn't do it for me. Next.
I think the goal/purpose of this thread is finally working. Apparently disliking a Bon Iver didn't do it. lol
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 12:44 PM
I don't mind HWM, but I do think they're overrated as blasphemous as that might be. It seems like a lot of people think they are the end all and be all of punk. :shrug:
I've been meaning to listen to AM/GutG. Everyone has told me how they're the best hardcore band of this decade and shit like that.
and for you clueless people that seem to click this thread and have an inept brain to not know what you are getting yourselves into when you do actually read this thread, here are the FIRST and THIRD posts of THIS thread, so maybe you might want to go over that again, just in case you get too butt hurt. I am not forcing you to click this thread and shove what I say down your throat, so:
this is the thread where mht rambles on about bands he likes/dislikes.
here's how I'll do this, very simple.
I'll discuss one band I like and one band I dislike in separate postings once a day. It's then up to you the reader to debate, argue, agree (like this ever happens), bash me on a personal level, get butthurt over it, etc etc etc, ya know the usual. So without further ado, let's get this Richmond Sludge thread a fun musical discussion. That way all my positive and negative opinions could stay in one (or two, I plan on reviving the MHT rates your music thread soon so) threads :)
I mean, I don't know if I have to tie a rope around you and hold your hand, but that is pretty explanatory. I am not sitting behind your computer chair with a gun to your head making you read it then bash me. Yes I expect you to bash me (already stated in the third post you blind fools), but don't act like YOU didn't expect my long ramblings. IT'S WHY THE FUCK THE THREAD WAS MADE. So I can stay out of your threads, so go make them and praise the bands if it bothers you so much. It's like you guys are new to life and took your first baby steps this morning, and don't know how to function yet.
I don't mind HWM, but I do think they're overrated as blasphemous as that might be. It seems like a lot of people think they are the end all and be all of punk. :shrug:
I've been meaning to listen to AM/GutG. Everyone has told me how they're the best hardcore band of this decade and shit like that.
I basically said those same two but in a lamer attempt at a longer paragraph to include some shitty jokes but attempt a at least a decent civil argument. Which I get flamed for, but regardless... you basically agree with me, so be careful, you might be told to "shut the fuck up" by an orgcore punker.
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 12:50 PM
Haha, the thing is I love orgcore. And I still much rather listen to None More Black, The Lawrence Arms, Polar Bear Club, Off with their Heads, the Riot Before, etc over HWM.
and Mike. you change your damn opinion so much. its influenced on whats cool, and what people don't know about. a year ago you jocked bear vs shark and american nightmare, now you talk about how your better than others because you don't like them.
I don't think you fucking read, ever. Because I am pretty sure I clarify this in the first fucking line of when I was talking about American Nightmare. Either you are blind, inept, can't comprehend things, or just don't even bother to read, just see the bolded band name and make fun of me because I don't like them. You should actually read why, might make some sense. JUST might. I also never once JOCKED American Nightmare, never called them the best, never owned an album, never owned vinyl, never pulled a Die Hard and bought a 7'' or two because my favorite members on this website like them. Because I am enjoy users that like the band, doesn't mean I have to. Remember that next time you take a shower in two months.
Haha, the thing is I love orgcore. And I still much rather listen to None More Black, The Lawrence Arms, Polar Bear Club, Off with their Heads, the Riot Before, etc over HWM.
I'd rather listen to the guy in HWM that plays in Senses Fail, than playing in HWM if that makes any sense. lol
apparently you're one of the 15.
lol.
wesgemm08
01/03/09, 01:02 PM
I don't think I'll ever understand how Bon Iver got so hyped. Pg 99/pageninetynine/whatever else was always meh to me.
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 01:05 PM
I like Bon Iver and Pg99. However, Bon Iver's new EP was trash in my opinion and I don't think I'm going to bother listening to the next release :whistle:
DilesMavis
01/03/09, 01:05 PM
I'm going to agree with pg.99. Never could get into them.
I said those same things, but in a longer more drawn out rambling, which was the point of this thread. lol
This means:
A. users agree with me, so I am not the only one
B. some users like me
=
good day.
I like Bon Iver and Pg99. However, Bon Iver's new EP was trash in my opinion and I don't think I'm going to bother listening to the next release :whistle:
is that the Bon Iver release where he locked himself in a cabin in the woods in a far off remote location, wrote the album and people thought it was the second coming of Jesus Christ?
TheOtherAndrew
01/03/09, 01:08 PM
I don't think I'll ever understand how Bon Iver got so hyped.
Because people heard "recorded in a remote cabin in the woods" and wet themselves with opportunities for cred.
hahahahha today is so fucked, it's like I am saying the same things as everyone else. Weirdest shit.
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 01:10 PM
is that the Bon Iver release where he locked himself in a cabin in the woods in a far off remote location, wrote the album and people thought it was the second coming of Jesus Christ?
Nah I liked the cabin album, the EP is newer and is essentially complete shit. He tries to actually put his vocals higher in the mix than the album and it sounds terrible, then he used Autotune on one of the songs to make it essentially "lol" worthy.
TheOtherAndrew
01/03/09, 01:11 PM
I need to be faster with my obvious observations.
Colorblind!
01/03/09, 01:26 PM
This is hilarious, the kids getting so torn up over Mike's opinions.
I don't know why they would bother lurking this thread if they're going to cry about you hating the bands they like.
chipdip18
01/03/09, 01:26 PM
Because people heard "recorded in a remote cabin in the woods" and wet themselves with opportunities for cred.
With reason. That screams indie cred. Words like "remote" "cabin" "woods" "lo-fi" "Jeff Mangum" and "folk" will get the ball rolling.
Nah I liked the cabin album, the EP is newer and is essentially complete shit. He tries to actually put his vocals higher in the mix than the album and it sounds terrible, then he used Autotune on one of the songs to make it essentially "lol" worthy.
so basically he came back to the real world and attempted technological music effects and other different things that he might not have been able to pull off in the woods and failed miserably.
This is hilarious, the kids getting so torn up over Mike's opinions.
I don't know why they would bother lurking this thread if they're going to cry about you hating the bands they like.
literally, it was like as soon as I clicked "post comment" for that Hot Water Music post, it's like that kid took off his flannel, put his PBR down and left the "up teh punx" and "Gaslight Anthem (Official Thread)" threads and just knew to come in and post. Like a fucking bat signal.
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 01:41 PM
I really don't like almost any of these hardcore/metal round ups :whistle:
why because they never talk about hardcore music or because the kid's rec of the weeks are always laughable?
x togepi x
01/03/09, 01:46 PM
haha i agree on american nightmare and HWM even though i like them both (don't consider orgcore to be punk music though, so that's probably why i don't have a problem with it)
i think pageninetynine had one good album and even then it was done way better many many times by other bands.
With reason. That screams indie cred. Words like "remote" "cabin" "woods" "lo-fi" "Jeff Mangum" and "folk" will get the ball rolling.
2009: year of the lo-fi
haha i agree on american nightmare and HWM even though i like them both (don't consider orgcore to be punk music though, so that's probably why i don't have a problem with it)
i think pageninetynine had one good album and even then it was done way better many many times by other bands.
"shut the fuck up"
that's the only counter argument I can come up with because I lack any sort of brain functions.
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 01:50 PM
why because they never talk about hardcore music or because the kid's rec of the weeks are always laughable?
The rec of the weeks are great. If I remember correctly, last week was a cock rock band.
chipdip18
01/03/09, 01:54 PM
2009: year of the lo-fi
My pants are creamed with indie cred.
those same kids into Bon Iver in 2008 jocked the fuck out of Post Rock bands in 2007. So I have no idea what will be overly loved in 2009 yet. Whatever trend gets cool I guess.
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 01:58 PM
Electronica/disco will be cool in 2009. Cut Copy, MGMT, and that one disco band named Hercules cemented that in my opinion.
those same kids into Bon Iver in 2008 jocked the fuck out of Post Rock bands in 2007. So I have no idea what will be overly loved in 2009 yet. Whatever trend gets cool I guess.
Ha i wonder if this was directed at me.
This thread is entertaining.
Burn That Shit
01/03/09, 02:02 PM
"shut the fuck up"
that's the only counter argument I can come up with because I lack any sort of brain functions.
You're really digging now.
chipdip18
01/03/09, 02:05 PM
Electronica/disco will be cool in 2009. Cut Copy, MGMT, and that one disco band named Hercules cemented that in my opinion.
I think MGMT is already considered cool.
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 02:07 PM
I think MGMT is already considered cool.
They are. But I think it will explode with a shitload ofbands mimicing it in 09.
Personally can't stand the trend and hope it dies fast though.
chipdip18
01/03/09, 02:09 PM
They are. But I think it will explode with a shitload ofbands mimicing it in 09.
Personally can't stand the trend and hope it dies fast though.
I think MGMT are okay, but nothing special. Man the bands offshooting from them would be terrible though. 09 is in for some cruddy Electronica.
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 02:10 PM
I think MGMT are okay, but nothing special. Man the bands offshooting from them would be terrible though. 09 is in for some cruddy Electronica.
They have.. two or three songs I don't mind on their album. The rest kind of blend into one big boring mess.
I hope Portishead goes back to Trip hop in 09 too though I did think third was decent
x togepi x
01/03/09, 02:13 PM
those same kids into Bon Iver in 2008 jocked the fuck out of Post Rock bands in 2007. So I have no idea what will be overly loved in 2009 yet. Whatever trend gets cool I guess.
please let the trend be weird posthardcore bands with keyboards so i don't have to keep living in springfield.
please let the trend be weird posthardcore bands with keyboards so i don't have to keep living in springfield.
How's the recording going?
Geoffthurs
01/03/09, 02:51 PM
I consider most of the bands hardcore I guess. An experimental New York style. The first Burn 7'' though, is up their for one of the best hardcore releases, if not most influential. I can see how they got a little post hardcoreish/rock style with the reunion though and those release(s). I think to me Robots and Empire and those bands are just using Black Sabbath riffs and going from their, for todays generation. Most of what I listen to on Robots and Empire at least, is just a poppier/uptempo Black Sabbath lines to my ears of joy.
Sure. I definitely see the Burn EP as a solid hardcore release... maybe one that pointed towards what post hardcore would become in the early-mid nineties but yeah, I would have to agree with you there.
x togepi x
01/03/09, 02:52 PM
How's the recording going?
it's happening, much slower than we'd all like, but the holidays pretty much ruin every band for a month.
we have the demo basically done. just want to remix it.
we have two songs for a 7inch that need vocals, which is my fault
and then we are talking about going somewhere to record an album.
but yeah, it'd be cool if people wanted to hear more ridiculous post-hardcore/kind of screamo but not really bands. i still like orchid a lot. come on people, i just bought a ton of pedals for my synth.
Haha, people are really getting too carried away with this. Mht your so controversial...
Geoffthurs
01/03/09, 03:02 PM
a band mht dislikes:
Page Ninety9
http://www.myspace.com/pageninetynine
Doesn't matter how I write their name. This band is still one of the shittiest overrated bands possibly ever. Now two posts above I butt hurt the hardcore kids, a post above I struck a nerve already with the fat bearded virgin orgcore kids, and now for some reason I feel a need to tango with the crusties and skramz that refuse to shower so much they could beat me with their smell and Yaphet Kotto t-shirts. But anyway, we aren't discussing why their idol now does electronica music for the Philadelphia club scene (that's a different future posting). So onto this. The thread title is "Richmond Sludge." Think about it. This thread was made for me as a joke to me, made fun of/started by a skramz head that posts on vlv/deadformat that I like some psuedo sludge but correlates that mostly every band I love is from the fucking eastern coast Richmond area. I am not even from Richmond, the dice just happen to fall that 15 out of the 20 bands I might be currently listening to are all from that area. More coincidence than anything, but I would definitely move there/live there as it could be a scene I enjoy a lot. Anyway, it would make sense that I like this band seeing as they are from the heart of music on the east coast as we know out (fuck you boston, Sterling VA will always be better.) But yeah, I find them a tad (or a lot) bit overrated. Your argument against me liking this band is simple: Michael none of the bands from Virginia you jock today wouldn't exist because of this band. Yes you are correct. Why I even like some of their post-pg9nine projects. How do I even argue around that? I don't. But what I can say is that this band set an overrated sword in a stone for other bands like Circle Takes the Square to pick up. Why does one need to be so hyped to an extent it makes the music worse? I don't know. The logic here is, where were all these kids that like this band when this band was active? Maybe these guys wouldn't have to be playing in their 20 new bands that spawned from this at one time 15 member band. As for the album listings. I find that to be one of the cheesiest concepts in music, but to every kid that doesn't shower it's one of the greatest. I don't get it. There are plenty of spazz/chaotic bands that have done it better or just as good that go completely unnoticed where this band gets praised. A Racebannon set during this time was doing the exact same thing, but it didn't appeal to kids because their jeans and image wasn't tight enough. To me this band did not pioneer anything but a fucking dead genre that is breathing its last breath at the turn of 2009. Unless their folk project turns like an ode to pg 99 on their future split with metal legends Thou, this genre will be over soon enough. I feel this is one of the many bands we have to thank for that, for not spawning anything in the future. I cannot touch on the DIY side of things because I can agree they were on the best DIY bands and did everything themselves. I respect that. The music on the other hand, spazz music of Racebannon and Le Show and Void and the Faith that sounds all the same. Doesn't do it for me. Next.
Document 8 is SOOOO good though.
Document 8 is SOOOO good though.
Yes, easily their best.
x togepi x
01/03/09, 03:06 PM
yeah mike "punk rock in the wrong hands" is totally a good song, though i probably wouldn't like it as much if i didn't play music.
though i guess that makes it suffer from American Nightmare syndrome in your view. That's cool though.
it's happening, much slower than we'd all like, but the holidays pretty much ruin every band for a month.
we have the demo basically done. just want to remix it.
we have two songs for a 7inch that need vocals, which is my fault
and then we are talking about going somewhere to record an album.
but yeah, it'd be cool if people wanted to hear more ridiculous post-hardcore/kind of screamo but not really bands. i still like orchid a lot. come on people, i just bought a ton of pedals for my synth.
Cool, dude. Keep me updated, okay?
x togepi x
01/03/09, 03:25 PM
Cool, dude. Keep me updated, okay?
yeah i'll definitely do that. i mean i promised you a demo and all. we just like playing live a lot, i think, which ties us up practicing instead of recording.
Is the 7" going to be a solo or a split?
x togepi x
01/03/09, 03:31 PM
haha it'd probably have to be a solo since the songs are long enough to take up a whole side by themselves. i don't feel that bad doing that because q and not u did the same thing.
though if any cool band wanted to do a split we'd most likely be down.
the thread
01/03/09, 03:32 PM
I'd copy the exact same thing that Mike wrote for AN/GUTG and just change the band to Saetia. Thats exactly how pretty much everyone sees that band as well. No doubt when they were a band no one gave a shit, now every single piece of vinyl with Saetia's name on it goes for a bazillion dollars on ebay. Ridiculous. No doubt I listen to them every now and then and I enjoy some of their music, but most skramz kids would have you think Jesus Christ himself was in this band, and each piece of vinyl was his body and blood.
I like bits and pieces of both HWM and PG99 and thats about it. Continue shitting on Bon Iver.
haha it'd probably have to be a solo since the songs are long enough to take up a whole side by themselves. i don't feel that bad doing that because q and not u did the same thing.
though if any cool band wanted to do a split we'd most likely be down.
Q and Not U are awesome.
x togepi x
01/03/09, 03:37 PM
i kind of think that way about saetia. i haven't listened to them in so long that i don't even know if i like them anymore.
x togepi x
01/03/09, 03:37 PM
Q and Not U are awesome.
yeah no kill beep beep is definitely up there in my favorite album lists.
yeah no kill beep beep is definitely up there in my favorite album lists.
Mmhmm, great stuff. And Power's good too.
x togepi x
01/03/09, 03:43 PM
doesn't power have wet work? that song was awesome
doesn't power have wet work? that song was awesome
Yup. And the extremely fun "Wonderful People."
DilesMavis
01/03/09, 04:56 PM
yeah no kill beep beep is definitely up there in my favorite album lists.
This is gonna sound creepy and weird. But I listened to your band a long time ago (I think it was yours anyway! I'm trying to remember...) it was very good. And are you in any way a tiny bit influenced or like Jerome's Dream? I'm just curious, haha. Might have been someone else's though.
x togepi x
01/03/09, 05:03 PM
This is gonna sound creepy and weird. But I listened to your band a long time ago (I think it was yours anyway! I'm trying to remember...) it was very good. And are you in any way a tiny bit influenced or like Jerome's Dream? I'm just curious, haha. Might have been someone else's though.
haha, no it's not creepy and weird at all, thanks! if you don't mind me asking, what made you think Jerome's Dream when you listened to it? Three of us really like them, but I've never heard that before so it's interesting.
ThisIsNotDan
01/03/09, 05:07 PM
I think most people here that are cool with Mike originally hated/argued all the time with him it seems.
mike do one on Cave In, because I know how much you looooooove them haha
Haha, people are really getting too carried away with this. Mht your so controversial...
sans for a couple posts by people who can't comprehend the first three posts of this thread or why this thread was made for fun, I think it sparked a good musical discussion. Everyone is expressing their opinions. Only ones butt hurt are the ones that seem to have no intelligent argument back. Which is fine, just shows they lack brains. I think everyone in here for the most part is having a good time. This thread is talking about music (good or bad) as a whole thats better than other threads going on in the music forum right now. (Where else are kids going to post, the Paramore, Gaslight Anthem and A Day To Remember threads? Come on.)
I think most people here that are cool with Mike originally hated/argued all the time with him it seems.
mike do one on Cave In, because I know how much you looooooove them haha
I am not doing bands just to do them. I am not picking a band for the spark and just going with it. I really am picking bands I like and listen to a lot and then picking bands I never seemed to care for, I chose those last 3 because I haven't posted any in a couple days and they are three bands where a lot of bands I like can relate to musically, where I try to shed light on why I don't like them. This thread alone already spawned another thread it seems too. So.
Jumpoff
01/03/09, 05:57 PM
When are the "like" bands coming?
I'll dig up some positive out of my body tomorrow with some like jams
sans for a couple posts by people who can't comprehend the first three posts of this thread or why this thread was made for fun, I think it sparked a good musical discussion. Everyone is expressing their opinions. Only ones butt hurt are the ones that seem to have no intelligent argument back. Which is fine, just shows they lack brains. I think everyone in here for the most part is having a good time. This thread is talking about music (good or bad) as a whole thats better than other threads going on in the music forum right now. (Where else are kids going to post, the Paramore, Gaslight Anthem and A Day To Remember threads? Come on.)
I'm not disagreeing with you at all, I like the discussion that is going on here. Mostly good bands are being discussed which is good, and absolutely way better than the other threads
I'd copy the exact same thing that Mike wrote for AN/GUTG and just change the band to Saetia. Thats exactly how pretty much everyone sees that band as well. No doubt when they were a band no one gave a shit, now every single piece of vinyl with Saetia's name on it goes for a bazillion dollars on ebay. Ridiculous. No doubt I listen to them every now and then and I enjoy some of their music, but most skramz kids would have you think Jesus Christ himself was in this band, and each piece of vinyl was his body and blood.
I like bits and pieces of both HWM and PG99 and thats about it. Continue shitting on Bon Iver.
I never understood the Saetia boner, either. I'm not really even a fan of Saetia's music. I think Hot Cross is a bajillion times better than Saetia musically. But it definitely has the same comparison of AN/GUTG - no one cared when they were around, and now their vinyl/merch sells for way too much.
AN/GUTG musically I do like. I still listen to those albums on occasion, but I understand that is what happened with them, too.
ThemChains
01/03/09, 08:18 PM
I like American Nightmare, but they are the most sweated hardcore band of all time, for all the wrong reasons.
llwilliamsll
01/03/09, 08:32 PM
They're enjoyable indeed. Never knew they have all this hype post-break up?
Colorblind!
01/03/09, 08:45 PM
I like American Nightmare, but they are the most sweated hardcore band of all time, for all the wrong reasons.
Isn't Background Music your favorite album of all time?
ThemChains
01/04/09, 12:17 AM
Isn't Background Music your favorite album of all time?
Hahaha. Not by a long shot. It does hold a lot of nostalgia, because it was the soundtrack to the better part of my high school career. The album drips with teen angst that shouldn't emotionally effect anyone over the age of 16.
oh but it does. which is the underlying humor of it all. seeing that 20 something kid who can kick my ass in real life curl up in a ball to this album after a girl ripped his heart out... true weakness if you ask me.
ThemChains
01/04/09, 12:38 AM
Is Neurosis going to make the like list? Or any Richmond bands?
Hey Kevin
01/04/09, 03:45 AM
I hate when people talk up American Nightmare then when you mention Some Girls they say how much they hate them.
or say they just like their first album, to be cliche
But it definitely has the same comparison of AN/GUTG - no one cared when they were around, and now their vinyl/merch sells for way too much.
What? Yeah... maybe in Nebraska... but in the rest of the country they were huge!
I never really got into them... I always liked Some Girls more.
wewascontenders
01/04/09, 10:37 AM
i enjoy some girls more than i do american nightmare.
What? Yeah... maybe in Nebraska... but in the rest of the country they were huge!
I never really got into them... I always liked Some Girls more.
I was more talking about Saetia. They were short-lived, and are now treated like pioneers or gods, and their vinyl sells for mucho. I know that AN/GUTG were big then, but they are even bigger now. If they ever reunited/toured again, it would be twice as big as anything they had seen before.
Ha, and Nebraska has the same scene as everyone else. Were not behind by any means. AN/GUTG came here and sold out the venue in 2002.
And I am a huge fan of Some Girls, too.
Colorblind!
01/04/09, 11:39 AM
Hahaha. Not by a long shot. It does hold a lot of nostalgia, because it was the soundtrack to the better part of my high school career. The album drips with teen angst that shouldn't emotionally effect anyone over the age of 16.
Gotcha! I just remember you putting it as your five star album in one thread a while back, which is why I went and listened to it haha,
SickOfStars
01/04/09, 12:07 PM
I never understood the Saetia boner, either. I'm not really even a fan of Saetia's music. I think Hot Cross is a bajillion times better than Saetia musically. But it definitely has the same comparison of AN/GUTG - no one cared when they were around, and now their vinyl/merch sells for way too much.
AN/GUTG musically I do like. I still listen to those albums on occasion, but I understand that is what happened with them, too.
I like saetia but definitely agree with you, hot cross blew them out of the water.
and I REALLY don't understand why people are paying tons of money to hear a grown man cry with pops and skips in it.
ThemChains
01/04/09, 02:02 PM
Fuckin' Protomen.
TheBaroness
01/06/09, 05:14 PM
I love Pg. 99, but I will concede they've definitely become the new overhyped screamo band (since it's no longer cool to like Saetia)
Hey Kevin
01/06/09, 05:17 PM
i enjoy some girls more than i do american nightmare.
yes!
Colorblind!
01/06/09, 06:29 PM
more updates.
wewascontenders
01/06/09, 07:18 PM
richmond sludge is dead.
richmond sludge revival tour 2009
shit stroll
03/07/09, 11:43 AM
:woot:
a band MHT likes:
When Dreams Die
http://www.myspace.com/whendreamsdie
RIYL: Alice in Chains, Quicksand, Cave In, Faith No More, Fugazi
Notes: I can never get enough 90s revival in 2009 (everyone should know this by now if you know anything of me.). I will keep spreading the 90s revival cheer like a french stripper in an Escape the Fate music video. Let's be real here, this band rules... you have heavier guitars that sound like These Arms Are Snakes on steroids vs vocals that are a little bit harder Faith No More. Sounds like boner jamz to me... yes sir. I will ride the 90s revival train until kids put down their gym shorts, stop jocking b9 and deathwish mosh and start hyping 90s also. Until then, check out the jams of all jams. Added bonus if you smoke weed and listen to these songs and then play some Left 4 Dead. Ain't nothing to it but to do it.
a band MHT dislikes
A Day to Remember
http://www.myspace.com/adaytoremember
RIYL: taking a penis in the ass, bastardization of what pop, punk, or hardcore even is
Notes: To my average fan of this thread (who know me) this pick really is anything controversial, but to the lurker or young teen (or old scene douchebag in his mid 20 somethings that wears tight jeans and still bleaches his hair) this is a VERY controversial pick. Since our last enstallment of Richmond Sludge, this band has generated tons of wave on this website, liked from every 17 year old, every Die Hard swoop hair, most Staff, and most of those desperate 24 year olds still living with mommy and daddy I touched on a sentence or two before. I don't understand why people like this band? Is it because of the tours they get on? I mean if I toured with New Found Glory every year I guess something is eventually going to happen, I just to understand when open chord guitar notes became a consideration for the hardcore genre? I know double bass and open chords are not close to pop or punk elements, so where do people think that this cheesy myspace metal band is savior of punkhardpop core or whatever this genre is? This band will never be a hardcore band, and if you think that you really need to educate yourself on the genre, which I suggest, I am fine if you like this band, it's just what you need to label them as properly and not bastardize terms/genres done right by thousands of hard working non hype bands today. I think the music is really cheesy so it's even hard for me to figure out how one enjoys it, but I can only imagine it is to punch air and look cool for scene chicks at their live show. I pretty much have that one pegged, because what male would actually by their neon girly looking merch and wear it in public? How humiliating.
bing bam boom wood instantly
wewascontenders
03/07/09, 01:15 PM
look out, this guy's at your door.
http://images.victoryrecords.com/albums/VR337.jpg
lol
lol i don't get it with that band
shit stroll
03/07/09, 01:26 PM
"shut the fuck up"
Disrespect Your Surroundings!
Cuddleworthy
03/07/09, 04:51 PM
i heard pg.99 is following the trend and going to reunite, after realizing how boring playing the same acoustic riff for 40 minutes is
Jumpoff
03/07/09, 07:18 PM
I dislike any "popcore" band or whatever you want to call them. FYS,SYG,Bangarang,ADTR, and even Kill Verona just don't do it for me whatsoever.
LendMeYourBrain
03/08/09, 03:09 PM
i heard pg.99 is following the trend and going to reunite, after realizing how boring playing the same acoustic riff for 40 minutes is
Where'd you hear that?
a band MHT likes:
Fairweather
www.myspace.com/fairweatherva (http://www.myspace.com/fairweatherva)
RIYL: Not pop/punk meets hardcore resurgence in 2009/not drive thru pop/punk 2003/not Valencia
I think due to this websites most recent musical debate/laughing joke of what is pop punk or why are they hardcore kids playing pop punk with breakdowns saving music n 2009 vs what about drive thru records bands from 2003, pop punk saviors?!?! I think all of this made me go back and do some genre/music searching, why did I like from this style many moons ago? How about this band? I think it would even be a stretch to say I like Olympia too (I know I am reaching here) but that is a different story because they are a guilty (scene) pleasure. Fairweather was the definition of pop and punk for me I think. There is no image conscious bullshit here (their singer isn't exactly the skinniest, so you are not getting a surge of 17-24 year old females to have to dig through in their live setting.) the band (go on youtube and look) played with a high energy. You got your moneys worth seeing this band, as opposed to seeing the bands of this genre today, and the scene chicks they fuck/swoon. Let's be real here, I think if I made a band today, it would be in the vein of this band, and I would cover one of their songs, not only because the music is catchy and accessible, they seemed to cut out all the gimmick shit that comes with bands of this style today, and you have to respect that. This band went unnoticed on a still credible Equal Vision's roster of the early 2000s that was more heavy/hardcore oriented than todays bread winning image groups on the label. They still don't get the credit they deserve, so if they gain one new fan out of this, I did my job here.
wewascontenders
03/08/09, 07:24 PM
valencia > scene girls > fairweather
wewascontenders
03/08/09, 07:27 PM
I dislike any "popcore" band or whatever you want to call them. FYS,SYG,Bangarang,ADTR, and even Kill Verona just don't do it for me whatsoever.
kill verona really can't be lumped with the rest of those bands.
i heard pg.99 is following the trend and going to reunite, after realizing how boring playing the same acoustic riff for 40 minutes is
Source? Maybe Robotic Empire is finally putting out the COC/Pg. 99 Split and they'll play a show for that.
IcedOpethBlind
03/08/09, 07:57 PM
Fairweather <3
valencia > scene girls > fairweather
is this fucking serious?
i forgot the second part which is
a band MHT dislikes:
Botch
myspace.com/rahrahrahbumblebeeskaosspadsmathcor e
RIYL: If you haven't heard this band by now there is no hope for you or for you to bother.
Now, to get it out of the way I won't actually say I hate this bands music, well, actually I have grown to hate their music so I can't even say that. I mean this band was good for my ears in my late angsty teen years to feel like the more superior of my friends who liked Norma Jean and Underoath. But let's be serious here, this band is no different than shit that sucks today of the same style. They played their music and made their mark, but their mark has a fanbase that is so pretentious and overrated it's so hard to a. take them seriously and b. listen to the band in todays music scene. I mean even the members moved on to bands like Minus the Bear, Roy, and These Arms Are Snakes.... all 3 of those bands musically are HORRIBLE. There is no argument there. So let's be serious if the members can hang it up with a nice little DVD send off (which was very good) and form a bunch of indie rock bands and melt in with the rest of music society of what thousands of other bands are doing... then by all means, that should let someone be able to dislike Botch. I always say I appreciate what they do, but there were bands before, during and after their time that deserve it much more (or just as much). Also musically I don't think they were as talented as people make them out to be. The lyrical content and musicianship is just as bad (or good if you look at that way) as any Solid State, Victory or Rise Records "metalcore" bands in todays world. I mean there really is no difference, throw in a few kaoss pads and some delay pedals and maybe, but that is nothing a little Fall of Troy can't handle. They held in a higher regard by certain kids, but in the whole circle of things.... are they really any different than what is bashed/disliked today in the genre? I mean those bands had to draw their influences from somewhere... and if Botch was one them then why can't a Botch fan like a band of today of the same style? It seems like an elitist/superior complex that I just don't get or agree with, which is where most of my distate for liking the band comes into play, I don't agree with post-ideals of a fanbase past a bands time, that effects a band to me, I cannot listen if people are going to act like shitbirds.
Mike, what is your opinion on pageninetynine?
wewascontenders
03/09/09, 12:54 PM
is this fucking serious?
ahaha in no way, shape, or form. that's a hangable statement.
SickOfStars
03/09/09, 01:00 PM
a band MHT likes:
Fairweather
www.myspace.com/fairweatherva (http://www.myspace.com/fairweatherva)
RIYL: Not pop/punk meets hardcore resurgence in 2009/not drive thru pop/punk 2003/not Valencia
I think due to this websites most recent musical debate/laughing joke of what is pop punk or why are they hardcore kids playing pop punk with breakdowns saving music n 2009 vs what about drive thru records bands from 2003, pop punk saviors?!?! I think all of this made me go back and do some genre/music searching, why did I like from this style many moons ago? How about this band? I think it would even be a stretch to say I like Olympia too (I know I am reaching here) but that is a different story because they are a guilty (scene) pleasure. Fairweather was the definition of pop and punk for me I think. There is no image conscious bullshit here (their singer isn't exactly the skinniest, so you are not getting a surge of 17-24 year old females to have to dig through in their live setting.) the band (go on youtube and look) played with a high energy. You got your moneys worth seeing this band, as opposed to seeing the bands of this genre today, and the scene chicks they fuck/swoon. Let's be real here, I think if I made a band today, it would be in the vein of this band, and I would cover one of their songs, not only because the music is catchy and accessible, they seemed to cut out all the gimmick shit that comes with bands of this style today, and you have to respect that. This band went unnoticed on a still credible Equal Vision's roster of the early 2000s that was more heavy/hardcore oriented than todays bread winning image groups on the label. They still don't get the credit they deserve, so if they gain one new fan out of this, I did my job here.
Dude! "If They Move, Kill Them" is el jamz!
How was that EP they put out...either before...or after... that?
wewascontenders
03/09/09, 01:02 PM
Dude! "If They Move, Kill Them" is el jamz!
How was that EP they put out...either before...or after... that?
alaska? it was good. not up to par with if they move, or lusitania, but still listenable.
Mike, what is your opinion on pageninetynine?
"shut the fuck up"
I wish I could get what you're saying.
I wish I could get what you're saying.
lol read earlier in this thread and you'll get it
a band mht dislikes:
Page Ninety9
http://www.myspace.com/pageninetynine
Doesn't matter how I write their name. This band is still one of the shittiest overrated bands possibly ever. Now two posts above I butt hurt the hardcore kids, a post above I struck a nerve already with the fat bearded virgin orgcore kids, and now for some reason I feel a need to tango with the crusties and skramz that refuse to shower so much they could beat me with their smell and Yaphet Kotto t-shirts. But anyway, we aren't discussing why their idol now does electronica music for the Philadelphia club scene (that's a different future posting). So onto this. The thread title is "Richmond Sludge." Think about it. This thread was made for me as a joke to me, made fun of/started by a skramz head that posts on vlv/deadformat that I like some psuedo sludge but correlates that mostly every band I love is from the fucking eastern coast Richmond area. I am not even from Richmond, the dice just happen to fall that 15 out of the 20 bands I might be currently listening to are all from that area. More coincidence than anything, but I would definitely move there/live there as it could be a scene I enjoy a lot. Anyway, it would make sense that I like this band seeing as they are from the heart of music on the east coast as we know out (fuck you boston, Sterling VA will always be better.) But yeah, I find them a tad (or a lot) bit overrated. Your argument against me liking this band is simple: Michael none of the bands from Virginia you jock today wouldn't exist because of this band. Yes you are correct. Why I even like some of their post-pg9nine projects. How do I even argue around that? I don't. But what I can say is that this band set an overrated sword in a stone for other bands like Circle Takes the Square to pick up. Why does one need to be so hyped to an extent it makes the music worse? I don't know. The logic here is, where were all these kids that like this band when this band was active? Maybe these guys wouldn't have to be playing in their 20 new bands that spawned from this at one time 15 member band. As for the album listings. I find that to be one of the cheesiest concepts in music, but to every kid that doesn't shower it's one of the greatest. I don't get it. There are plenty of spazz/chaotic bands that have done it better or just as good that go completely unnoticed where this band gets praised. A Racebannon set during this time was doing the exact same thing, but it didn't appeal to kids because their jeans and image wasn't tight enough. To me this band did not pioneer anything but a fucking dead genre that is breathing its last breath at the turn of 2009. Unless their folk project turns like an ode to pg 99 on their future split with metal legends Thou, this genre will be over soon enough. I feel this is one of the many bands we have to thank for that, for not spawning anything in the future. I cannot touch on the DIY side of things because I can agree they were on the best DIY bands and did everything themselves. I respect that. The music on the other hand, spazz music of Racebannon and Le Show and Void and the Faith that sounds all the same. Doesn't do it for me. Next.
Shut the fuck up.
ahaha in no way, shape, or form. that's a hangable statement.
lol I guess I suck at sarcasm. Been listening to fairweather all day. Makes this boring rainy day not so bad.:tramp:
SickOfStars
03/09/09, 01:58 PM
alaska? it was good. not up to par with if they move, or lusitania, but still listenable.
guess I wasn't missing much
Shut the fuck up.
Hahahaha, I am fucking dying!
Burn That Shit
03/09/09, 02:06 PM
Shut the fuck up.
QFT.
shit stroll
03/09/09, 02:57 PM
haha.
x togepi x
03/09/09, 03:38 PM
taas rules fairweather drools
i wonder if i still have a burned copy of that fairweather cd from my ex scenester girlfriend.
yes lets talk about scenesters and taas opening up for underoath for a second. wonderful argument you got yourself there.
x togepi x
03/09/09, 03:48 PM
no dude, i first saw them opening for fear before.
and that wasn't an argument so much as wondering if i could find the cd and reminisce about when i was dating a scene girl.
seeing how you are a scene guy listening to taas i am sure there won't be a problem
x togepi x
03/09/09, 03:50 PM
i think i have pictures to prove that.
ThisIsNotDan
03/09/09, 03:52 PM
09 Sludge Resurgence? oh baby!
shit stroll
03/09/09, 03:55 PM
ha, i like taas too. i might/might not be going to see them next friday.
x togepi x
03/09/09, 03:55 PM
ha, i like taas too. i might/might not be going to see them next friday.
do it. they were better now than they were when i saw them two years ago.
shit stroll
03/09/09, 04:04 PM
do it. they were better now than they were when i saw them two years ago.
yeah, young widows is opening the show too. i'll probably end up going to see lucero because most of my friends are going. i'd much rather see young widows/taas.
x togepi x
03/09/09, 04:05 PM
yeah, young widows is opening the show too. i'll probably end up going to see lucero because most of my friends are going. i'd much rather see young widows/taas.
i thought young widows was boring when i saw them, but i always liked breather resist better. i'd probably go to that show alone if i had to.
what are scene bands scener than fairweather for 50000 please?
shit stroll
03/09/09, 04:11 PM
i thought young widows was boring when i saw them, but i always liked breather resist better. i'd probably go to that show alone if i had to.
yeah, breather resist fucking ruled.
x togepi x
03/09/09, 04:12 PM
what are scene bands scener than fairweather for 50000 please?
orchid.
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