All We're Left Is Memories...

[Jason Tate]

I've posted one of the new Cartel (http://www.cartelrocks.com) promo pictures in the replies. More coming shortly, I would assume.

[tbag311]

it's commin....

[Comandante]

singer looks like aaron carter

[HollywoodAbalze]

singer looks like aaron carter

omg he does lol

o well the cd will stick kick ass and the band still kicks ass

[JOJOFACE]

All we're left are memories? :P I dunno...

[chance_4]

singer looks like aaron carter

have you heard will tell that story about the women flagging their van down and asking if he was aaron carter?

[shane hennessey]

zack takes some great photos

[Comandante]

have you heard will tell that story about the women flagging their van down and asking if he was aaron carter?

i was that woman.

[Katie Schmitz]

singer looks like aaron carter

Yeah, there is definitely a resemblance!

[golly_sandra]

have you heard will tell that story about the women flagging their van down and asking if he was aaron carter?
Lmfao I was just about to mention this. He totally told us this story at the TRS show.

[chance_4]

i was that woman.

will sure knows how to tell a great story! and write some good lyrics also.

[Jason Tate]

http://www.pedaids.org/images_new/atfh/2003/aaron_carter_performs.jpg

I hate Aaron Carter more than just about any other "performer" out there ..

[FourStarters]

http://www.pedaids.org/images_new/atfh/2003/aaron_carter_performs.jpg

I hate Aaron Carter more than just about any other "performer" out there ..
The old story about him nearly burning alive when he ran over a mattress with his SUV still kills me.

Cartel is the new Fall Out Boy. I'm excited.

[chance_4]

No, Cartel is not the new FOB. Because Cartel is better than FOB. But thats just my opinion.

[straylighthaste]

what handsome lads they are :love:

[TheAuthor]

No, Cartel is not the new FOB. Because Cartel is better than FOB. But thats just my opinion.
Everyone needs to stop ending all their sentences with "but thats just my opinion"

[Jacktheskipper]

... yeah, let`s try something new, like "no offense" ...

[chance_4]

is it really that big of a deal.

[Bury Your Head]

what handsome lads they are :love:


the last guy on the right looks like a fucking caveman. hahaha


"no effense"

[chance_4]

the last guy on the right looks like a fucking caveman. hahaha


"no effense"

well if thats the case he plays the guitar better than all of the other cavemen.

[Bury Your Head]

i only heard one song.... i cant say anything till i hear more... all i know is this band is pretty hyped up here at ap.net

[Ruggiero2oo8]

singer looks like aaron carter

the last guy on the right looks like a fucking caveman. hahaha


"no effense"



well this band is pretty fucking awesome for having aaron carter and a caveman in it.

[SC0926]

man I love Cartel.

[tbag311]

First of all Cartel > FOB......and it's always been like that. Watch Cartel get on TRL....lol. Seeing how the pop-punk thing is commin back, I can really see it happening.

[ForeverInADay]

Everyone needs to stop ending all their sentences with "but thats just my opinion"
There's nothing wrong with ending sentences with "thats just my opinion", but, that's just my opinion ;)

P.S. Are you in Kiros? My friend Angie (i think it was her i cant remember) knows you guys

[duffe]

i think this album will be pretty cool.

[ForeverInADay]

First of all Cartel > FOB......and it's always been like that. Watch Cartel get on TRL....lol. Seeing how the pop-punk thing is commin back, I can really see it happening.
You spelt stop with an e in your signature dude, haha that made me laugh. you're so european :animateds

[radio napalm]

zack takes some great photos

zack is definitely a great photographer. and i'm glad he's doing so well. he's supporting his family on shooting bands, and just opened his studio. i wish him the best of luck.

[FourStarters]

I figured I should clarify my statement about Cartel and FOB.

I'm super excited for the new Cartel album, and I hope this band gets everything it deserves. They're hugely underrated, and honestly, outside of this site, there's not many people who know who they are (I've just recently started seeing Cartel merch widely available - Interpunk, Smartpunk, etc). The hype machine behind them won't be the same as Fall Out Boy, based simply on the fact that The Militia Group can't possibly promote something as big as Island or FBR can (when Jay-Z is promoting your band, you know you're huge).

Three cheers for Cartel, everyone's new favorite band (and for those of us who were into this band on the opening chords of Luckie St., the next ones to say "we remember them when...").

[RockVocalPower]

I remember when they cancelled the last 4 shows of their tour with A Small Victory because they were all sick as shit but they still came and played in Raleigh before Thanksgiving.

[ColourandShape]

Hey does anyone have guitar tabs for 'Honestly'? I wanna learn that song, it fucking rocks...

[whitelines]

Cartel is probably the best pop-punk band, much better than Fall Out Boy. Hit The Lights is mmm good too.

[OveriseFan]

Cartel is probably the best pop-punk band, much better than Fall Out Boy. Hit The Lights is mmm good too.

Cartel > Hit the Lights > FOB

that is all.

This was an announcement brought to you by the "Buy James an iPod" foundation...

yay for subliminal messaging!

[Rohan Kohli]

Hey does anyone have guitar tabs for 'Honestly'? I wanna learn that song, it fucking rocks...

I've figured it out, but I'm too lazy to tab it out...plus I didn't tune my guitar half a step down like they do, so they have the open C# chords that I have to play up higher. Its really not too hard to figure out...just play it over and over. Also, the guitar harmonies are panned left and right, so in winamp, just listen to the left side until you get that, then do the same for the right...you can do that for the whole song and figure out both parts.

[UltimoScenester]

It looks like Nick Carter and Cat Stevens got three other guys together and formed a band

[ColourandShape]

I've figured it out, but I'm too lazy to tab it out...plus I didn't tune my guitar half a step down like they do, so they have the open C# chords that I have to play up higher. Its really not too hard to figure out...just play it over and over. Also, the guitar harmonies are panned left and right, so in winamp, just listen to the left side until you get that, then do the same for the right...you can do that for the whole song and figure out both parts.

Awesome dude, thanks for the info...I'll def check that out

[Rohan Kohli]

hell, i'll give you the basics right now....when the intro kicks in/the verse its:

444xxx
666xxx
x466xx
x366xx

the prechorus:

888xxx
666xxx
444xxx

888xxx
666xxx
x466xx

chorus, just mess around w/the combination of these chords (i'm really really lazy):

x466xx
888xxx
666xxx
444xxx


also, for the 'lead' line (its not really a lead line), but those quarter notes that are in the intro/prechorus etc, it's just:

xxxx99


that should get you through most of it. also, just try to figure out the harmonies...transcribing songs is really beneficial to your playing...so thats my excuse for not tabbing it out..maybe i will later on

also, if you tune down the half step, shift everything up a fret, and you can make the x466xx's into 000xxx's

[LPMagic]

First of all Cartel > FOB......and it's always been like that. Watch Cartel get on TRL....lol. Seeing how the pop-punk thing is commin back, I can really see it happening.

First of all, you're an idiot. Cartel wasn't even a band until August 2003, months after Fall Out Boy released "Take This To Your Grave" (not to mention Evening Out...). So, no, it hasn't always been like that. Secondly, Cartel has released ONE EP. Fall Out Boy has released 3 full albums and an acoustic EP. You can't compare the two. I'm a fan of both bands and I'm not trying to be biased, but c'mon and think for a minute before you declare who's better. Third, why even bring up TRL or say that "pop punk" is coming back? It's always been there, it just peaks at certain times (better known as whenever Blink releases a record).

- Jeff

[TheNumberOneFan]

First of all, you're an idiot. Cartel wasn't even a band until August 2003, months after Fall Out Boy released "Take This To Your Grave" (not to mention Evening Out...). So, no, it hasn't always been like that. Secondly, Cartel has released ONE EP. Fall Out Boy has released 3 full albums and an acoustic EP. You can't compare the two. I'm a fan of both bands and I'm not trying to be biased, but c'mon and think for a minute before you declare who's better. Third, why even bring up TRL or say that "pop punk" is coming back? It's always been there, it just peaks at certain times (better known as whenever Blink releases a record).

- Jeff


lol...

I concur

[tom lascola]

i dig the picture, but i dont know whats up with jesus in the background...

[ColourandShape]

hell, i'll give you the basics right now....when the intro kicks in/the verse its:

444xxx
666xxx
x466xx
x366xx

the prechorus:

888xxx
666xxx
444xxx

888xxx
666xxx
x466xx

chorus, just mess around w/the combination of these chords (i'm really really lazy):

x466xx
888xxx
666xxx
444xxx


also, for the 'lead' line (its not really a lead line), but those quarter notes that are in the intro/prechorus etc, it's just:

xxxx99


that should get you through most of it. also, just try to figure out the harmonies...transcribing songs is really beneficial to your playing...so thats my excuse for not tabbing it out..maybe i will later on

also, if you tune down the half step, shift everything up a fret, and you can make the x466xx's into 000xxx's



dude thanks so much, seriously....its pretty chill to know people actually give a shit anymore on these forums.....i've been trying to learn this song for a really long time and this is just what i needed, you rule man. Thanks again.

[Gitch]

singer looks like aaron carter

I was just about to say that

[xXrunninglateXx]

First of all, you're an idiot. Cartel wasn't even a band until August 2003, months after Fall Out Boy released "Take This To Your Grave" (not to mention Evening Out...). So, no, it hasn't always been like that. Secondly, Cartel has released ONE EP. Fall Out Boy has released 3 full albums and an acoustic EP. You can't compare the two. I'm a fan of both bands and I'm not trying to be biased, but c'mon and think for a minute before you declare who's better. Third, why even bring up TRL or say that "pop punk" is coming back? It's always been there, it just peaks at certain times (better known as whenever Blink releases a record).

- Jeff

What does the amount time a band has been around have ANYTHING to do with how good they are? After Saosin's 1st ep, they were better than 3/4 of the stuff out there. Just because Cartel only has an ep out, does that make them worse than some crap band like Good Charlotte? I understand your point but don't call someone an idiot for their opinion cause I could easily do the same to you and your opinion.

[piaffeprncess98]

I can't get over how much Will really does look like Aaron Carter (in five years).

[s.deel.besonym]

I've posted one of the new Cartel (http://www.cartelrocks.com) promo pictures in the replies. More coming shortly, I would assume.
I've heard the new demos, and I think FOB still owns the pop crown. Hate me.

[hype]

What does the amount time a band has been around have ANYTHING to do with how good they are? After Saosin's 1st ep, they were better than 3/4 of the stuff out there. Just because Cartel only has an ep out, does that make them worse than some crap band like Good Charlotte? I understand your point but don't call someone an idiot for their opinion cause I could easily do the same to you and your opinion.

He was saying that Cartel "wasn't always better than Fall out Boy" because Fall Out Boy has been around longer

[heyitsjeremy]

That has got to be the best band line-up of all time. From left to right:

An original Dukes of Hazzard cast member, Cat Stevens, Aaron Cater, Trey Parker, plus the love child of Dave Ghrol and Enrique Iglesias.

Haha. In all seriousness though, Cartel still kicks ass.... even with Aaron Carter. :animateds

[chance_4]

cool picture!

on a side note does anyone know if they re-recorded Fiend?

[Rohan Kohli]

Nope, they didn't. I think they're gonna save it for the next CD.

[yeknom]

cartel is really the only pop punk i like, so yea i think they are better than fall out boy.

[OveriseFan]

Tate

I love underlined periods!

[LPMagic]

First of all Cartel > FOB......and it's always been like that.

What does the amount time a band has been around have ANYTHING to do with how good they are?

tbag311 said it has always been like that and I'm pointing out that Fall Out Boy was around for a couple years before Cartel even existed. I wasn't calling him an idiot for saying Cartel is better than Fall Out Boy, that's his opinion, I'm saying that you can't say it's always been like that. You wouldn't say "The Academy Is... has always been better than Blink 182."

I understand your point but don't call someone an idiot for their opinion cause I could easily do the same to you and your opinion.

It was a bit much for me to call him an idiot, but sometimes I read what some people have to say and I just wonder if they realize what they're saying. I was probably pissed about something at the time and just vented for a split second, too. You can call me an idiot because I learned in 1st grade from my teacher "what goes around comes around", tee hee.

- Jeff

[FourStarters]

Let's not give anyone the "pop punk crown" until New Found Glory hands it over.

[Gitch]

Let's not give anyone the "pop punk crown" until New Found Glory hands it over.

I don't think they ever had it. The "pop punk crown" has to go to any of these 3 bands(in no particular order)
Blink 182
Green Day
Mxpx

[hackscutter]

there ok
but the higher is hotter and better
and so is the acadamy is

[piaffeprncess98]

I don't think they ever had it. The "pop punk crown" has to go to any of these 3 bands(in no particular order)
Blink 182
Green Day
Mxpx
I agree with that. How about FOB has the "pop-punk princes" title? I know it sounds like it's out of the pages of BOP or TigerBeat, but they seem to be the "new face" of pop punk.

[an0n]

i love these guys, i cant wait for the full album.


and if your bored, i have a bunch of cartel photos on my website... check it out? :)