Never trust anyone over thirty?

[bogga]

I came here from a link trying to figure out what the hell "Scene" kids were. I read all of these posts and see that the vast majority of you are between the ages of 15 and 22. I'm just wondering what the lot of you think about having a creepy "old" man lurking about. I think it's interesting that this website is called absolutepunk when punk in its three greatest (imho) stages of history are long past and many of you weren't even born when Dead Kennedys broke up.

So, what are your thoughts on that? Is there a point in someone's life when they should just leave it all behind and grow up? Are career and kids the inevitable path most of you will take? Are you just having fun now and it's all serious and grown up later? Or is it still "Live Fast, Die Hard"?

I've slacked my way through life and wound up in a pretty good spot out of sheer luck. I certainly don't have anything I would call a career but I'm not wanting for cash. Still no kids and never any intention.

Do you still not trust anyone over thirty? (this is something from the 60's and the Hippie generation, if you aren't familiar with the saying. Abby Hoffman I think it was.)

[Machu505]

I hate old people. I plan on killing myself on my thirtieth birthday.

Not really though.

[StreetSpirit76]

lol wut

[Robototron]

People over 30 > hippies

[bogga]

Heh. Hippie. Me. I was born in the same year as Woodstock. Not a Hippie. (nor were my very boring parents)

[jagermeister]

When it all comes down to it...who cares? Things change. We like our music and our "counterculture" we have going on right now. It works for us or else we wouldn't be here. You would, however, be surprised at the amount of users on here who listen to a wide variety of music beyond what one could call punk - old or new.

[boldt_action]

What's a hippie?

[raptorz44]

What's Woodstock?

[dtrzcin]

Surprisingly enough, I do not listen to anything punk. And I don't mind people over 30. It's just creepy when they try to act 'cool', whatever that may be.

[CTMarshall]

ok...

[boykosaurus]

I love older people, so long as they are more mature than me. A 30 year old who acts like he/she is still in college is weird and frowned upon in my book.

[bogga]

Yeah, Jagermeister I hear what you're saying. And long live counterculture (revolution)! I certainly don't listen to punk anymore. It got pretty stale for me. My tastes have become awfully varied since and I found myself listening to things I never thought I would after I "got over it."

I guess what amazes me still is that Punk lives on in its varied forms. That seems true for damn near every genre that's ever come down the pike, though. Once something establishes itself as valid, it stays and mutates. For God's sake when The Grateful Dead (Jerry Garcia) died, bands like Phish were there to take their place.

I don't think I'm trying to be "cool." I know I'm well beyond that and after a certain point it's just sad but I still make it out to a show now and then. Fashion is not important to me anymore, if it ever was. What interests me is the ongoing evolution (and sometimes devolution) of what is, at its bare roots, Rock & Roll. I guess you could say I fancy myself a student of its History and when something new comes along that I don't understand, I take notice and try to see just what's going on. I like to try and figure out the influences. Sadly, I'm reaching the age where it is damn near impossible, though still fascinating to me.

I didn't mean to start an "old people suck" or "I was there first" thing. I just wanted to know how everyone felt about...well...eventually growing up and how long you'll try to stay in touch with what's going on. It seems to me that most people reach a point in their lives when they say "everything today is crap" and decide to get old. I'm only looking for thoughts on that. I try not to reach that point myself but it becomes impossible at a certain point when you start to hear the same things over and over in their varied rehashed forms.

I would very much welcome from you (in the proper plural use of the language...ya'll to those who don't get I mean all of you) a good sample of today's music that you feel is truly original. In fact, I offer it as a challenge. I would like to catch up a bit, if you don't mind. And if you do mind, then fuck off.

Dude from Charleston (I'm from Huntington, btw), you don't mean it. You'll get to 30 and say "Fuck! I'm 30!" and spend the next ten years dreading 40.

And were the "What's a Hippie?" and "What's Woodstock?" serious questions or are you just being smart asses? :)

[raptorz44]

smart asses :-p

at least for my woodstock question...

[Nevuk]

We're all smart asses. In a way it can be generational, my father's nickname is actually "king hippie" in his side of the family.
I don't really dread getting old. I dread things that go with it, but not it in and of itself. Parts of me are never going to change, but plenty of them will, probably the ones I don't.

Music today that's original? There's very little. Avant noise bands, hip/hop acts are about all I can think of and those are very acquired tastes. (Merzbow, Melt-banana, Why? etc.)
A new artistic atmosphere is emerging. The rule of seven looks to be dead, that every seven years a new and dominant form of rock would emerge (hair metal - faux grunge - faux emo is most recent). I'm fairly certain it has died due to the emergence of decentralized sources of music. The internet, myspace, napster are all just as likely for a person to discvoer their music from as the radio. So there is a deluge of new talent, DIY is more viable than ever before, etc. Original music is out there, you just have to find it, know where to look.

[more heart]

STRANGER DANGER!

my mommy told me to stay away from people like you...
:nono:

[.invisible ink.]

i'm 31. there's a few of us older-than-average people here that throw off the curve a little bit. age is just a number. i'm probably way more immature than most 21 year olds and i'm okay with that. i have no interest in getting married, popping out babies, and being a "grown up". I've got a good job but I still go to see shows and hang out on here quite a bit with people nearly half my age. I also date guys way younger than me because i can at least relate to them more than ii can relate to a 30+ year old guy that wants something different than i do out of life. Maybe I'll change someday but for now I'm happy and that's what matters most.

My point? Who cares how old you are as long as you're cool and not a creeper.

[vasallenstaat]

Well, I can honestly say I'm not punk either. I like so many types of music I just jump on and see what the shows about. Anyone here realize rock started out with the Blues? Then along came Mr. Cash and Mr. Presley and a whole slew of others until we hit the 60's, and BAM! Then we got the 70's rockers 80's grunge and glam, 90's softened up and still metal never held back. And inside that one wave was several others. We got punk, emo, grunge, psychadelic and psychotic. Some is trash(my comment is my own, but ICP? Really? STFU) some posers(not naming names *cough*Avil*cough*) and some which will be loved forever(Metallica, Disturbed, etc.,)

If I could study only rock music as an anthropology student, I would. As it is, I'm a science comm. major looking to work at National Geographic one day. Rock is still my first love though. :book:

[Neo Cassady]

If I could study only rock music as an anthropology student, I would. As it is, I'm a science comm. major looking to work at National Geographic one day. Rock is still my first love though. :book:

Working for NG would be a dream. It's people mentioning that type of thing that makes me wish I was a com/journalism major.

[JJJ]

i'm 31. there's a few of us older-than-average people here that throw off the curve a little bit. age is just a number. i'm probably way more immature than most 21 year olds and i'm okay with that. i have no interest in getting married, popping out babies, and being a "grown up". I've got a good job but I still go to see shows and hang out on here quite a bit with people nearly half my age. I also date guys way younger than me because i can at least relate to them more than ii can relate to a 30+ year old guy that wants something different than i do out of life. Maybe I'll change someday but for now I'm happy and that's what matters most.

My point? Who cares how old you are as long as you're cool and not a creeper.

You are badass and I had no idea you are 31. & you're still badass.

[.invisible ink.]

You are badass and I had no idea you are 31. & you're still badass.

aww thanks! that just proves my point, age is just a number as long as you're legal *wink*

[|adr3naLine|]

I feel like the whole idea of "counterculture" then was doing whatever you weren't supposed to do and whatever was the opposite of the norms. Now it is to just do your own thing and whatever you wanna do, even if that means sometimes doing what other people are doing. We kind of lost that need to be 100% different from every one else, while still maintaining a desire to be unique.

[JJJ]

aww thanks! that just proves my point, age is just a number as long as you're legal *wink*

oh definitely ! will you be my cougar? I've always wanted to get with an older woman;-)

[asphyxiadreams]

I want to live fast, die hard.

I am not being silly,

But i don't want to fall into the boring career/kids thing..
And what's the point?

Life is a joke, really.

[BrennanHickson]

Correction: Never trust anyone.

[TranslateTheNam]

STRANGER DANGER!

my mommy told me to stay away from people like you...
:nono:

that made me laugh.....

just a question, when your in a minivan taxi cab do you pretend your on cash cab and ask ridiculous questions to people...i love doin that

[more heart]

that made me laugh.....

just a question, when your in a minivan taxi cab do you pretend your on cash cab and ask ridiculous questions to people...i love doin that

Well I normally don't ride in taxis let alone minivan taxis, but I suppose if I were in one I would do so.

[Bunnies]

Dude... there is a shit TON of original music out there today. When you were a kid you basically had to be able to fill a stadium before you got any kind recognition. Today, all you need is a computer and a little creativity. If you can sort through all the crap that is out there, you will find some real gems. I'm not sure my specific taste would be to your liking... I would have to know more about what you like to be able to recommend anything.

You are right about the term "Punk" though. It is used extremely loosely these days. My older brother is really into bands like Minor Threat, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Crass (so I've listened to a good amount of it)... so I probably know a little more than the average 20 year old about 70-80s punk. While I respect the genre immensely, music is not a political entity to me, and I don't want it to be.

[Adeniz19]

people over 30 > scene kids