punk vs emo

[canary]

i am sick and tired of being labeled! especially emo! emo is as low as it gets when it comes to music. i don't understand how one can confuse the two.. emo is a bunch of bitches with black hair and eyeliner complaining about EVERYTHING, stealing little girls pants and cutting themselves because its the "in thing" to do! punk on the other hand is a bunch of people who are fed up with how this world is, rebelion happens, you can fake it.. anyone with an opinon lemme hear it!

[AP_Punk]

http://www.interpunk.com/itemimages2/25302.jpg

[shit stroll]

http://www.interpunk.com/itemimages2/25302.jpg
lol.

[Chromefox]

Welcome to the coal mine.

[AP_Punk]

lol.

http://www.interpunk.com/item.cfm?Item=25302&

[DilesMavis]

Oh........

[shit stroll]

10/3/2005 by Danny from Brampton, ON Canada Rating: http://www.interpunk.com/images/5stars.gif

Punk Vs. Emo is not only an amazing idea but both CD’s clash like no other. How can you pass up such an amazing CD with so many amazing bands lined up one after the next. This is a must have comp.

[AP_Punk]

emotive hardcore punk!

[Jumpoff]

Punks wear studded jackets emos wear studded belts imo

[shit stroll]

but only if the belts are white.

[x togepi x]

are you sure you're not emo? i see a lot of complaining from a teenage white kid about inane shit.

[llwilliamsll]

http://www.non-refundable.com/yh/sisko_facepalm.gif

[theguy77]

omgzz i know how can you confuse rites of spring with a punk band?!

oh wait...

[outrageouslyAL]

i cant begin to tell you how many people i have had to explain emo and punk to, that dont understand and still label me as emo.
i mean no offense if you are emo.. but im not!

[AP_Punk]

how many punks does it take to change a light bulb?

[outrageouslyAL]

1.

[versus_god]

how many punks does it take to change a light bulb?
Punks don't change anything!

[theguy77]

what was the punchline to this joke again? isnt it on nothingnice?

[AP_Punk]

how many punks does it take to change a light bulb?

none. cuz punks can't change anything!

[theguy77]

Punks don't change anything!

OH YEAH lol

[AP_Punk]

how many emo kids does it take to change a light bulb?

[DjJazzyGeoff]

How many emos does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Trick question: none, they would rather sit in a dark corner and cut themselves. ZINGAAAA

[DjJazzyGeoff]

how many emo kids does it take to change a light bulb?
ass

[AP_Punk]

How many emos does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Trick question: none, they would rather sit in a dark corner and cut themselves. ZINGAAAA

:highfive:

[outrageouslyAL]

OH YEAH lol

your avatar just made me search my house for oreos.. with no luck :-(

[llwilliamsll]

i cant begin to tell you how many people i have had to explain emo and punk to, that dont understand and still label me as emo.
i mean no offense if you are emo.. but im not!
You best be joking.

[DjJazzyGeoff]

to the OP: which would you label as punk and which would you label as emo?

http://www.southern.com/southern/band/RITES/pics/riteslive.jpg

http://lookout.littletype.com/docs.lookout/photos-bands/img50.jpg

[theguy77]

your avatar just made me search my house for oreos.. with no luck :-(

happens to everyone.

[Jumpoff]

Oreos are the worst kind of cookie.

[versus_god]

How many punx does it take to wallpaper a bathroom?

[theguy77]

hahahahaa

[theguy77]

Oreos are the worst kind of cookie.

but the best kind of race.

think about it.

[outrageouslyAL]

You best be joking.

???

[thesafeword]

Emo is like Fall Out Boy and punk is like My Chemical Romance. Duh.

[timbedinosaur]

Emo is like Fall Out Boy and punk is like My Chemical Romance. Duh.
Totally.

[timbedinosaur]

http://www.sfbg.com/blogs/music/images/ramones.jpg
only punks that really matter.

[Jumpoff]

http://www.sfbg.com/blogs/music/images/ramones.jpg
only punks that really matter.

Except they don't

[circatbs]

Depends on what you consider punk and what you consider emo.
Emo = Sunny Day Real Estate
Punk = The Ramones

[theguy77]

yeah cause sunny day real estate was a hardcore punk band

[llwilliamsll]

this thread makes my tummy feel no good.

[theguy77]

you're lucky you're a gators fan.

[GuitarR0cker1]

Emo was not started by Sunny Day Real Estate.

[theguy77]

Sunny Day Real Estate basically started emo.

oh you mean like dashboard confessional started folk?

[circatbs]

Even if they didn't start the genre (which I never said they did, they def. didn't) they are an actual emo band.

[theguy77]

Even if they didn't start the genre (which I never said they did, they def. didn't) they are an actual emo band.

someone please clean up this mess

[circatbs]

Ugh you need to change your avatar because I REALLY WANT AN OREO NOW!!!!!

[theguy77]

this thread is so unsanitary right now where is the lysol

[theguy77]

Ugh you need to change your avatar because I REALLY WANT AN OREO NOW!!!!!

hahaha thats the third time TODAY someone has said something like this, i think every poster ive come in contact with since i changed to this avatar has mentioned wanting an oreo at one point or another

[circatbs]

Well I wouldn't doubt it they're the best cookie ever.

[timbedinosaur]

I avoid looking at your avatar for that reason. Anyway, I take it your a gator fan?

[theguy77]

yes sir glad to see another championship game coming

im actually transferring to that university for this coming fall semester

[Jumpoff]

I plan to go to UF when I go to college. I was a gators fan like three years ago or so back when Chris Leak was a sophmore.

[theguy77]

i lived in jacksonville florida for 11 years and have wanted to move back since i got to this bum fuck state

[timbedinosaur]

yes sir glad to see another championship game coming

im actually transferring to that university for this coming fall semester
Lucky bastard

[MADSTA]

To the OP: Thank you so much for being a great representative of my gender and age group! You really give a good picture of how we all act and think.

[theguy77]

hahaha i know right? is she sure shes not 13? i mean is it really her peers that are "labelling" her this way?

[timbedinosaur]

Look at the dudes teeth in her picture. Bad teeth and braces are so "punk"

[llwilliamsll]

???
This is no time to be playing stupid.

[Hey Kevin]

To the OP: Thank you so much for being a great representative of my gender and age group! You really give a good picture of how we all act and think.
then your picture on here must be ironic...right?

[MADSTA]

then your picture on here must be ironic...right?
Don't judge a book by its cover.

[Hey Kevin]

Don't judge a book by its cover.
haha

[mick_jagger]

i don't understand how one can confuse the two.. emo is a bunch of bitches with black hair and eyeliner complaining about EVERYTHING, stealing little girls pants and cutting themselves because its the "in thing" to do! punk on the other hand is a bunch of people who are fed up with how this world is, rebelion happens, you can fake it.. anyone with an opinon lemme hear it!

you just described the two most generic stereotypes of each genre of music. and as far as the emo thing goes, read this: http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=166516

[areyoubeautiful]

i am sick and tired of being labeled! especially emo! emo is as low as it gets when it comes to music. i don't understand how one can confuse the two.. emo is a bunch of bitches with black hair and eyeliner complaining about EVERYTHING, stealing little girls pants and cutting themselves because its the "in thing" to do! punk on the other hand is a bunch of people who are fed up with how this world is, rebelion happens, you can fake it.. anyone with an opinon lemme hear it!


Emo (pronounced /ˈiːmoʊ/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English)) is a genre of music that originated from hardcore punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_punk) [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-0) and later adopted pop punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_punk) influences when it became mainstream in the United States.
It has since come to describe several variations of music with common roots and associated fashion and stereotypes.
In the mid-1980s, the term emo described a subgenre of hardcore punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_punk) which stemmed from the Washington, D.C. music scene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Washington,_D.C.). In later years, the term emocore, short for "emotional hardcore",[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-2) was also used to describe the emotional performances of bands in the Washington, D.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.) scene and some of the offshoot regional scenes such as Rites of Spring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Spring), Embrace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_(U.S._band)), One Last Wish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Last_Wish), Beefeater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefeater_(band)), Gray Matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Matter_(band)), Fire Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Party), and later, Moss Icon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moss_Icon)
In the mid-1990s, the term emo began to refer to the indie scene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_(culture)) that followed the influences of Fugazi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugazi), which itself was an offshoot of the first wave of emo. Bands including Sunny Day Real Estate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Day_Real_Estate), Far (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_(band)) and Texas Is the Reason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Is_the_Reason) had a more indie rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_rock) style of emo, more melodic and less chaotic. The so-called "indie emo" scene survived until the late 1990s, when many of the bands either disbanded or shifted to mainstream styles. As the remaining indie emo bands entered the mainstream, newer bands began to emulate the mainstream style.

First wave (1985–1994)

In 1985 in Washington, D.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.), Ian MacKaye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_MacKaye) and Guy Picciotto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Picciotto), veterans of the DC hardcore music scene, took their music in a more personal direction with a far greater sense of experimentation, bringing forth MacKaye's Embrace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_(U.S._band)) and Picciotto's Rites of Spring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Spring). The style of music developed by Embrace and Rites of Spring soon became its own sound. As a result of the renewed spirit of experimentation and musical innovation that developed the new scene, the summer of 1985 soon came to be known in the scene as "Revolution Summer".[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-6)
Where the term emo actually originated is uncertain, but members of Rites of Spring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Spring) mentioned in a 1985 interview in Flipside Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flipside_(fanzine)) that some of their fans had started using the term to describe their music.
Within a short time, the D.C. emo sound began to influence other bands such as Moss Icon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moss_Icon), Nation of Ulysses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Ulysses), Dag Nasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_Nasty), Soulside (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soulside), Shudder to Think (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shudder_to_Think), Fire Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Party), Marginal Man, Foundation and Gray Matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Matter_(band)), many of which were released on MacKaye's Dischord Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dischord_Records).
At the same time, in the New York/New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey) area, bands such as Native Nod (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Nod), Policy of 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_of_3), Rye Coalition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rye_Coalition), and Quicksand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicksand_(band))[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-7) were feeling the same impulse. Many of these bands were involved with the ABC No Rio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_No_Rio) club scene in New York, itself a response to the violence and stagnation in the scene and with the bands that played at CBGBs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBGB), the only other small venue for hardcore in New York at the time.
Following the disbanding of Embrace in 1986, MacKaye established the influential group Fugazi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugazi), and was soon joined by Picciotto. While Fugazi itself is not typically categorized as emo, the band's music is cited as an influence by popular second-wave bands such as Sunny Day Real Estate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Day_Real_Estate),[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-8) Far (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_(band)),[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-9) Braid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(band)),[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-10) and Jimmy Eat World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Eat_World).[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-11)
(http://www.absolutepunk.net/)
Second wave (1994–2000)

As Fugazi and the Dischord Records scene became increasingly popular in the indie underground of the early 1990s, new bands began to spring up.
Diary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_(album)) was released by Sunny Day Real Estate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Day_Real_Estate) in 1994. The band performed on TV shows, including The Jon Stewart Show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jon_Stewart_Show).
Inspired by Fugazi and Sunny Day Real Estate, Jimmy Eat World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Eat_World) released the album Static Prevails (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_Prevails) in 1996 on Capitol Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Records).
A Cornerstone of the late-Nineties emo movement was Weezer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer)'s 1996 album Pinkerton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkerton_(album)), which was to be considered one of the defining emo records of the 90s and was said to have introduced emo to a larger and more mainstream audience.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-12)[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-13)
In 1997, Deep Elm Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Elm_Records) released the first installment in a series of compilations called Emo Diaries, featuring tracks from Jimmy Eat World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Eat_World), Samiam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samiam), and Jejune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jejune).
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Mainstream emo (2000–present)

While Jimmy Eat World had played emocore-style music early in their career, by the time of the release of their 2001 album Bleed American (http://www.absolutepunk.net/), the band had downplayed its emo influences, releasing more pop-oriented singles such as "The Middle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Middle)" and "Sweetness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweetness_(song))". Newer bands that sounded like Jimmy Eat World (and, in some cases, like the more melodic emo bands of the late 90s) were soon included in the genre.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-14)
2003 saw the success of Chris Carrabba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Carrabba), the former singer of emo band Further Seems Forever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_Seems_Forever), and his project Dashboard Confessional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashboard_Confessional). Carraba found himself part of the emerging "popular" emo scene. Carrabba's music featured lyrics founded in deep diary-like outpourings of emotion. While certainly emotional, the new "emo" had a far greater appeal amongst adolescents than its earlier incarnations.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-15)
At the same time, use of the term "emo" expanded beyond the musical genre, which added to the confusion surrounding the term. The word "emo" became associated with open displays of strong emotion. Common fashion styles and attitudes that were becoming idiomatic of fans of similar "emo" bands also began to be referred to as "emo." As a result, bands that were loosely associated with "emo" trends or simply demonstrated emotion began to be referred to as emo.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-16)
In a strange twist, screamo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo), a more aggressive sub-genre of emo that began in the early 90s, also had a reformulation of sound and has found greater popularity in recent years through bands such as Glassjaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glassjaw).[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-17)
The difficulty in defining "emo" as a genre may have started at the very beginning. In a 2003 interview by Mark Prindle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Prindle), Guy Picciotto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Picciotto) of Fugazi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugazi) and Rites of Spring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Spring) was asked how he felt about "being the creator of the emo genre." He responded:
I don't recognize that attribution. I've never recognized "emo" as a genre of music. I always thought it was the most retarded term ever. I know there is this generic commonplace that every band that gets labeled with that term hates it. They feel scandalized by it. But honestly, I just thought that all the bands I played in were punk rock bands. The reason I think it's so stupid is that—what, like the Bad Brains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Brains) weren't emotional? What—they were robots or something? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

—Mark Prindle, "Interview with Guy Picciotto (http://www.markprindle.com/picciotto-i.htm)". MarkPrindle.com (2003).

Fashion and stereotype

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a8/Fringe.jpg/200px-Fringe.jpg (http://www.absolutepunk.net/)
Long fringe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fringe.jpg) (bangs) brushed to one side.


Today emo is commonly tied to both music and fashion as well as an inspiration toward the emo subculture,[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-3news-18) and the term "emo" is sometimes stereotyped with tight jeans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeans) on males and females alike, long fringe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringe_(hair)) (bangs) brushed to one side of the face or over one or both eyes, dyed black, straight hair, tight t-shirts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-shirt) (sometimes short sleeved) which often bear the names of emo bands (or other designer shirts), studded belts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_(clothing)), belt buckles, canvas sneakers or skate shoes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skate_shoes) or other black shoes and thick, black horn-rimmed glasses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn-rimmed_glasses).[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-knot_magazine-19)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-incendiary_magazine-20)[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-gurl_magazine-21) This fashion has at times been characterized as a fad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fads_and_trends).[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-fairfield-22)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e4/Trosity2.jpg/200px-Trosity2.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trosity2.jpg)
Another example of hair characteristic of emo.


In recent years the popular media have associated emo with a stereotype that includes being emotional, sensitive, shy, introverted, or angsty.[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trosity2.jpg)[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-24)[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-25) It is also associated with depression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(mood)), self-injury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-injury), and suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide).[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-daily_mail-26)[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-27)
Backlash

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warped_Tour"]Warped Tour (http://www.absolutepunk.net/) founder, Kevin Lyman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Lyman) stated that he believes there is an emo backlash saying that he sees "I hate emo" t-shirts and that there was hostility among bands on the tour towards emo groups.[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-28)
In 2008, Time Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Magazine) reported that "anti-emo" groups attacked teenagers in Mexico City, Querétaro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_de_Quer%C3%A9taro), and Tijuana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana).[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-29)[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-30) One of Mexico's foremost critics of emo was Kristoff, a music presenter on the popular TV channel Telehit.
Gerard Way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Way), the lead singer of My Chemical Romance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Chemical_Romance) stated in an interview "emo is a pile of shit", and that his "band was never emo".[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-31) Panic at the Disco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_at_the_Disco) also stated in an interview with NME (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME): "emo is bullshit."[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-32) These two bands, however, tend to be classified as emo.
Fans of emo are criticized[who? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words)] for purported displays of emotion common in the scene. Complaints claimed that emotions were expressed in an histrionic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder) manner.[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-33)
Justin Jacobs has criticised emo music of the early 2000s, arguing it became boring and generic.[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-34)
Emo music has been blamed for the suicide by hanging (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging) of Hannah Bond by both the coroner at the inquest into her death and her mother, Heather Bond, after it was claimed that emo music glamorized suicide and her apparent obsession with My Chemical Romance was said to be linked to her suicide. The inquest heard that she was part of an Internet "emo" cult [36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-thesun-35) and her Bebo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebo) page contained an image of an 'emo girl' with bloody wrists.[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-nme-36) It also heard that she had discussed the "glamour" of hanging online[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-thesun-35) and had explained to her parents that her self harming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_harming) was an "emo initiation ceremony".[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-nme-36) Heather Bond criticised emo fashion, saying: "There are 'emo' websites that show pink teddies hanging themselves." After the verdict was reported in NME (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME), fans of emo music contacted the magazine to defend against accusations that it promotes self harm and suicide.[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-37)
In Russia, a law has been presented at the Duma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma) to regulate emo websites and forbid emo style at schools and government buildings, for fears of emo being a "dangerous teen trend" promoting anti-social behaviour, depression, social withdrawal and even suicide.[39] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-38)[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-39)

[DilesMavis]

I like Gray Matter.

[theguy77]

are you fucking serious? the wikipedia article? gtfo

there are no "waves". for that to be a valid theory each wave would have to at least vaguely resemble the last.

[SickOfStars]

Emo (pronounced /ˈiːmoʊ/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English)) is a genre of music that originated from hardcore punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_punk) [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-0) and later adopted pop punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_punk) influences when it became mainstream in the United States.
It has since come to describe several variations of music with common roots and associated fashion and stereotypes.
In the mid-1980s, the term emo described a subgenre of hardcore punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_punk) which stemmed from the Washington, D.C. music scene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Washington,_D.C.). In later years, the term emocore, short for "emotional hardcore",[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-2) was also used to describe the emotional performances of bands in the Washington, D.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.) scene and some of the offshoot regional scenes such as Rites of Spring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Spring), Embrace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_(U.S._band)), One Last Wish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Last_Wish), Beefeater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefeater_(band)), Gray Matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Matter_(band)), Fire Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Party), and later, Moss Icon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moss_Icon)
In the mid-1990s, the term emo began to refer to the indie scene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_(culture)) that followed the influences of Fugazi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugazi), which itself was an offshoot of the first wave of emo. Bands including Sunny Day Real Estate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Day_Real_Estate), Far (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_(band)) and Texas Is the Reason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Is_the_Reason) had a more indie rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_rock) style of emo, more melodic and less chaotic. The so-called "indie emo" scene survived until the late 1990s, when many of the bands either disbanded or shifted to mainstream styles. As the remaining indie emo bands entered the mainstream, newer bands began to emulate the mainstream style.

First wave (1985–1994)

In 1985 in Washington, D.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.), Ian MacKaye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_MacKaye) and Guy Picciotto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Picciotto), veterans of the DC hardcore music scene, took their music in a more personal direction with a far greater sense of experimentation, bringing forth MacKaye's Embrace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_(U.S._band)) and Picciotto's Rites of Spring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Spring). The style of music developed by Embrace and Rites of Spring soon became its own sound. As a result of the renewed spirit of experimentation and musical innovation that developed the new scene, the summer of 1985 soon came to be known in the scene as "Revolution Summer".[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-6)
Where the term emo actually originated is uncertain, but members of Rites of Spring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Spring) mentioned in a 1985 interview in Flipside Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flipside_(fanzine)) that some of their fans had started using the term to describe their music.
Within a short time, the D.C. emo sound began to influence other bands such as Moss Icon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moss_Icon), Nation of Ulysses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Ulysses), Dag Nasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_Nasty), Soulside (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soulside), Shudder to Think (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shudder_to_Think), Fire Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Party), Marginal Man, Foundation and Gray Matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Matter_(band)), many of which were released on MacKaye's Dischord Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dischord_Records).
At the same time, in the New York/New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey) area, bands such as Native Nod (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Nod), Policy of 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_of_3), Rye Coalition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rye_Coalition), and Quicksand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicksand_(band))[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-7) were feeling the same impulse. Many of these bands were involved with the ABC No Rio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_No_Rio) club scene in New York, itself a response to the violence and stagnation in the scene and with the bands that played at CBGBs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBGB), the only other small venue for hardcore in New York at the time.
Following the disbanding of Embrace in 1986, MacKaye established the influential group Fugazi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugazi), and was soon joined by Picciotto. While Fugazi itself is not typically categorized as emo, the band's music is cited as an influence by popular second-wave bands such as Sunny Day Real Estate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Day_Real_Estate),[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-8) Far (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_(band)),[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-9) Braid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(band)),[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-10) and Jimmy Eat World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Eat_World).[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-11)
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Second wave (1994–2000)

As Fugazi and the Dischord Records scene became increasingly popular in the indie underground of the early 1990s, new bands began to spring up.
Diary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_(album)) was released by Sunny Day Real Estate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Day_Real_Estate) in 1994. The band performed on TV shows, including The Jon Stewart Show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jon_Stewart_Show).
Inspired by Fugazi and Sunny Day Real Estate, Jimmy Eat World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Eat_World) released the album Static Prevails (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_Prevails) in 1996 on Capitol Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Records).
A Cornerstone of the late-Nineties emo movement was Weezer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer)'s 1996 album Pinkerton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkerton_(album)), which was to be considered one of the defining emo records of the 90s and was said to have introduced emo to a larger and more mainstream audience.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-12)[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-13)
In 1997, Deep Elm Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Elm_Records) released the first installment in a series of compilations called Emo Diaries, featuring tracks from Jimmy Eat World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Eat_World), Samiam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samiam), and Jejune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jejune).
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Mainstream emo (2000–present)

While Jimmy Eat World had played emocore-style music early in their career, by the time of the release of their 2001 album Bleed American (http://www.absolutepunk.net/), the band had downplayed its emo influences, releasing more pop-oriented singles such as "The Middle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Middle)" and "Sweetness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweetness_(song))". Newer bands that sounded like Jimmy Eat World (and, in some cases, like the more melodic emo bands of the late 90s) were soon included in the genre.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-14)
2003 saw the success of Chris Carrabba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Carrabba), the former singer of emo band Further Seems Forever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_Seems_Forever), and his project Dashboard Confessional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashboard_Confessional). Carraba found himself part of the emerging "popular" emo scene. Carrabba's music featured lyrics founded in deep diary-like outpourings of emotion. While certainly emotional, the new "emo" had a far greater appeal amongst adolescents than its earlier incarnations.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-15)
At the same time, use of the term "emo" expanded beyond the musical genre, which added to the confusion surrounding the term. The word "emo" became associated with open displays of strong emotion. Common fashion styles and attitudes that were becoming idiomatic of fans of similar "emo" bands also began to be referred to as "emo." As a result, bands that were loosely associated with "emo" trends or simply demonstrated emotion began to be referred to as emo.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-16)
In a strange twist, screamo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo), a more aggressive sub-genre of emo that began in the early 90s, also had a reformulation of sound and has found greater popularity in recent years through bands such as Glassjaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glassjaw).[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-17)
The difficulty in defining "emo" as a genre may have started at the very beginning. In a 2003 interview by Mark Prindle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Prindle), Guy Picciotto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Picciotto) of Fugazi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugazi) and Rites of Spring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Spring) was asked how he felt about "being the creator of the emo genre." He responded:
I don't recognize that attribution. I've never recognized "emo" as a genre of music. I always thought it was the most retarded term ever. I know there is this generic commonplace that every band that gets labeled with that term hates it. They feel scandalized by it. But honestly, I just thought that all the bands I played in were punk rock bands. The reason I think it's so stupid is that—what, like the Bad Brains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Brains) weren't emotional? What—they were robots or something? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

—Mark Prindle, "Interview with Guy Picciotto (http://www.markprindle.com/picciotto-i.htm)". MarkPrindle.com (2003).

Fashion and stereotype

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a8/Fringe.jpg/200px-Fringe.jpg (http://www.absolutepunk.net/)
Long fringe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fringe.jpg) (bangs) brushed to one side.


Today emo is commonly tied to both music and fashion as well as an inspiration toward the emo subculture,[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-3news-18) and the term "emo" is sometimes stereotyped with tight jeans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeans) on males and females alike, long fringe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringe_(hair)) (bangs) brushed to one side of the face or over one or both eyes, dyed black, straight hair, tight t-shirts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-shirt) (sometimes short sleeved) which often bear the names of emo bands (or other designer shirts), studded belts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_(clothing)), belt buckles, canvas sneakers or skate shoes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skate_shoes) or other black shoes and thick, black horn-rimmed glasses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn-rimmed_glasses).[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-knot_magazine-19)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-incendiary_magazine-20)[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-gurl_magazine-21) This fashion has at times been characterized as a fad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fads_and_trends).[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-fairfield-22)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e4/Trosity2.jpg/200px-Trosity2.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trosity2.jpg)
Another example of hair characteristic of emo.


In recent years the popular media have associated emo with a stereotype that includes being emotional, sensitive, shy, introverted, or angsty.[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trosity2.jpg)[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-24)[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-25) It is also associated with depression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(mood)), self-injury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-injury), and suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide).[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-daily_mail-26)[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-27)
Backlash

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warped_Tour"]Warped Tour (http://www.absolutepunk.net/) founder, Kevin Lyman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Lyman) stated that he believes there is an emo backlash saying that he sees "I hate emo" t-shirts and that there was hostility among bands on the tour towards emo groups.[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-28)
In 2008, Time Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Magazine) reported that "anti-emo" groups attacked teenagers in Mexico City, Querétaro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_de_Quer%C3%A9taro), and Tijuana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana).[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-29)[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-30) One of Mexico's foremost critics of emo was Kristoff, a music presenter on the popular TV channel Telehit.
Gerard Way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Way), the lead singer of My Chemical Romance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Chemical_Romance) stated in an interview "emo is a pile of shit", and that his "band was never emo".[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-31) Panic at the Disco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_at_the_Disco) also stated in an interview with NME (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME): "emo is bullshit."[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-32) These two bands, however, tend to be classified as emo.
Fans of emo are criticized[who? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words)] for purported displays of emotion common in the scene. Complaints claimed that emotions were expressed in an histrionic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder) manner.[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-33)
Justin Jacobs has criticised emo music of the early 2000s, arguing it became boring and generic.[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-34)
Emo music has been blamed for the suicide by hanging (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging) of Hannah Bond by both the coroner at the inquest into her death and her mother, Heather Bond, after it was claimed that emo music glamorized suicide and her apparent obsession with My Chemical Romance was said to be linked to her suicide. The inquest heard that she was part of an Internet "emo" cult [36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-thesun-35) and her Bebo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebo) page contained an image of an 'emo girl' with bloody wrists.[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-nme-36) It also heard that she had discussed the "glamour" of hanging online[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-thesun-35) and had explained to her parents that her self harming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_harming) was an "emo initiation ceremony".[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-nme-36) Heather Bond criticised emo fashion, saying: "There are 'emo' websites that show pink teddies hanging themselves." After the verdict was reported in NME (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME), fans of emo music contacted the magazine to defend against accusations that it promotes self harm and suicide.[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-37)
In Russia, a law has been presented at the Duma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma) to regulate emo websites and forbid emo style at schools and government buildings, for fears of emo being a "dangerous teen trend" promoting anti-social behaviour, depression, social withdrawal and even suicide.[39] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-38)[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(slang)#cite_note-39)

the modern portion of this is really kinda full of shit. one of the few cases where you shouldn't trust wikipedia. there is not "modern mainstream wave" because the type of screamo made in the early 90's is still being made by tons of bands. it's a case of the mainstream media using a misappropriated term and further misappropriating it.

[shit stroll]

Oreos are the worst kind of cookie.
but at least they're vegan.

[SickOfStars]

but at least they're vegan.

Bob's girlfriend is stoked

[Hey Kevin]

but at least they're vegan.
says my friends fat exgirlfriend

[SickOfStars]

says my friends fat exgirlfriend

I beat your friend because a: I'm still dating the vegan girl and b: she's small and adorable.

-160 HP of damage to your friend

his turn

[Hey Kevin]

I beat your friend because a: I'm still dating the vegan girl and b: she's small and adorable.

-160 HP of damage to your friend

his turn

he is dating a fat vegetarian girl now who got him to stop eating fast food but she loves Tokyo Joe's.

i fucking hate her
punkrockanarchy

[SickOfStars]

he is dating a fat vegetarian girl now who got him to stop eating fast food but she loves Tokyo Joe's.

i fucking hate her
punkrockanarchy

lol. it's so easy to be fat while being vegetarian. fucking cheese.

and it's good that he stopped eating fast food at least. stuff will KILL you.

[shit stroll]

i'm a vegetarian and i'm really skinny. sometimes i wish that i was fat so clothes would fit me better.

[SickOfStars]

i'm a vegetarian and i'm really skinny. sometimes i wish that i was fat so clothes would fit me better.

lol yeah maybe. I think mostly that's a blessing though. It's folks of your size that can pull off wearing clothes that are a little big and not look shapeless and amorphous.

I gained 10 lbs recently and have been vegetarian for a while. It honestly has boggled me and I guess I should chalk it up to not being able to exercise very often.

[chickendude]

but at least they're vegan.
Maybe, but they have refined sugar (filtered through bone char).

[FUTMT]

I like NoFX.

[shit stroll]

/punk.

[timbedinosaur]

I love how every thread turns into a chat thread

[areyoubeautiful]

ok but think about it, Nirvana is based of 90's grunge music, and alot of the emo/punk bands are based offf the same shit that got Kurt Cobain N-volved

[shit stroll]

~*~NeVeR gOnnA eVeR GoNNa BeLoNg tO AnOtHeR nO, nEvEr GoNNa EvEr gOnnA bELonG tO aNoThEr No*~*

[thesafeword]

ok but think about it, Nirvana is based of 90's grunge music, and alot of the emo/punk bands are based offf the same shit that got Kurt Cobain N-volved
n-volved? Are you fucking kidding me?

[timbedinosaur]

you're face looks like a fish btw.

[thesafeword]

Whose?

[canary]

i dont see why i fucking bother with this site..most of u seem like burn out retards any way.. -sigh- the human race is fucked majorly..

[canary]

i was hoping some of you shared my views on that.. emos are a waste of flesh.... but what the hell.. i dont care if you wont realize that emo is just goth for pussies...

[fly_guy]

i dont see why i fucking bother with this site..most of u seem like burn out retards any way.. -sigh- the human race is fucked majorly..

Yeah, for sure. Because everyone on here is the exact same in the real world.

[thesafeword]

i was hoping some of you shared my views on that.. emos are a waste of flesh.... but what the hell.. i dont care if you wont realize that emo is just goth for pussies...
1. Emo is a music genre that pretty much died out in the early 2000s.
2. You're thinking of scene kids and calling them 'emo'.
3. Your boyfriend looks like a waste of flesh.

[Mikey Radigan]

i was hoping some of you shared my views on that.. emos are a waste of flesh.... but what the hell.. i dont care if you wont realize that emo is just goth for pussies...

I like your boyfriends mohawk. Its so punx.

[thesafeword]

His braces are so anti-establishment.

[Mikey Radigan]

Total anarchy.

[theguy77]

you're face looks like a fish btw.

:lol:

[theguy77]

i was hoping some of you shared my views on that.. emos are a waste of flesh.... but what the hell.. i dont care if you wont realize that emo is just goth for pussies...

or, you could grow up and reailze that labels are for people in junior high school and dont exist in the real world

but that wouldnt be punk now would it? you have to find SOMETHING to rally against, of course. its you vs the world no matter how old you get. how could we be so incompetent.

[timbedinosaur]

i dont see why i fucking bother with this site..most of u seem like burn out retards any way.. -sigh- the human race is fucked majorly..With people like you, indeed we are.

i was hoping some of you shared my views on that.. emos are a waste of flesh.... but what the hell.. i dont care if you wont realize that emo is just goth for pussies...Your views are ignorant, just like your boyfriend is with dental health.

Whose?
OP
I like your boyfriends mohawk. Its so punx.
And look at those teeth and gums, so punx.

[Hey Kevin]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/customprofilepics/profilepic585952_1.gifhttp://www.dan-dare.org/FreeFun/Images/DonkeyKong.jpg

[thesafeword]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/customprofilepics/profilepic585952_1.gif
Aww, punk love.

[llwilliamsll]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/customprofilepics/profilepic585952_1.gif
Thrice times put = emo

[Hey Kevin]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/customprofilepics/profilepic585952_1.gif
FEELS GOOD MAN

[theguy77]

DONKEY KONG :lol: :lol: :lol:

[thesafeword]

Bump, because I'm waiting for that canary girl to bitch us all out about emo and her boy friend.

[circatbs]

sweet bump. this thread is hilarious

[Hey Kevin]

i wonder what it would look like if these two bumped
http://www.absolutepunk.net/customprofilepics/profilepic585952_1.gif

[circatbs]

I don't even want to know.