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PunkDrums182
07/06/05, 12:59 AM
I read in some magazine, that mark was upset when tom did box car racer cause he felt like he was being left out by his best friend. So i know A lot of blink fans like box car racer. Basically the article said that's what caused the falling out with blink and caused them to go on the hiatus. Now say blink doesnt come back and that is REALLY a BIG reason that they broke up. Is the one box car racer cd worth blink 182 breaking up? Im making a poll. Post .

Alex Djaferis
07/06/05, 01:02 AM
whatever. marks a cry baby in that case. lol.

Fullcollapse3k
07/06/05, 01:04 AM
The one BCR album wasn't on the level of really anything Blink did, so no.

Shellular
07/06/05, 01:05 AM
whatever. marks a cry baby in that case. lol.
hahahaha

irthesteve
07/06/05, 01:05 AM
The one BCR album wasn't on the level of really anything Blink did, so no.
are you kiddding, it was an amazing album

Alex Djaferis
07/06/05, 01:17 AM
the Boxcar album was good for like a week. it was only loved to a huge extent because everyone was sucking Blinks dick in those days. It really isnt that good. Its still got some decent songs. But its nothin that made me wish for a second BCR.

Lueda Alia
07/06/05, 01:22 AM
i like boxcar racer but no, if that's why then it's not worth it.

Alex Djaferis
07/06/05, 01:24 AM
there is.

that was a good song. nice ballad. and i liked that one with Tim from Rancid....and ....man...all systems go or something?

Lueda Alia
07/06/05, 01:27 AM
well i think part of why i'm saying it's worth it is that i've already started dealing with and working on accepting that blink is done. i love blink and i love the box car racer cd so i guess hrm. i don't know how to say what i'm thinking.


cat like thief is the one with tim i'm pretty sure.
yeah that's the one. I like it and I don't like Tim.

underoathfob55
07/06/05, 01:30 AM
i think the box car racer cd was good but then blink had to turn all serious.im greedy and want cds form both again.

Chemical Love
07/06/05, 05:04 AM
Box Car Racer was not a good reason for Blink to break up.

when 4ever ends
07/06/05, 05:19 AM
BCR is great but if i could of chosen a BCR albulm or blink staying together.. then i would of definitly chose them staying together.

i dont think it was worth it

morte
07/06/05, 06:24 AM
I say YES. And I love blink, but BCR was incredible, and new blink album was almost BCR and the new Tom solo project will be awesome and plus44 will be too.
I think blink would have broken up without BCR.

BrandNew20
07/06/05, 07:17 AM
A Boxcar Racer album, might have been worth it, but look at what the finished product was-it was rushed. The lyrics on the album are very weak, and the music is repeatitive, and Tom's voice for a whole entire album gets on my nerves. The End With You is a great song though, but the album just lacks staying power with me.

I do find it extrememly hypocritical on Marks part that he complained when Tom and Travis did their own thing and about how he felt forgotten, when he's doing the same thing to Tom right now with Plus 44.

earlySPIRITtime
07/06/05, 07:34 AM
i really liked the box car racer cd, but i doubt that was a reason for the breakup.

AShannon04
07/06/05, 07:58 AM
ehh, I liked the Boxcar Racer album, but I don't think that it would be worth Blink breaking up. I'm not a giant fan of either band, but I like Blink more.

aminorthreat55
07/06/05, 08:16 AM
Is it just me or is Mark starting to come off as the jealous girlfriend type?

allelish
07/06/05, 09:35 AM
This interview was from kerrang before "Blink 182" came out. So they made a record after mark had said what he thought about BCR and they smoothed all that over. They made a record since that potential rift so that isn't to blame for the hiatus.

Also, the BCR album was amazing and probably one of my favourite albums i own. Every song on it is top notch (except my first punk song).

WasteMyTime
07/06/05, 10:19 AM
I read in some magazine, that mark was upset when tom did box car racer cause he felt like he was being left out by his best friend. So i know A lot of blink fans like box car racer. Basically the article said that's what caused the falling out with blink and caused them to go on the hiatus. Now say blink doesnt come back and that is REALLY a BIG reason that they broke up. Is the one box car racer cd worth blink 182 breaking up? Im making a poll. Post .
I love mark...and honestly from what I heard was that his main beef was that tom was constantly trying to impliment box car type music into blink (if you notice, he wrote a shit load of songs on the untitled album and is singing in most of the songs)...travis also didn't like the direction tom was taking blink...so honestly, I think it's a fine reason for a band to break up...when you can't get along with your bandmates cause they suddenly "mature" or whatever...you're not gonna enjoy making music anymore.

and ya, I predicted this about two years ago...ask Sleepygrlgreen for proof.

punkpixie
07/06/05, 10:27 AM
This interview was from kerrang before "Blink 182" came out. So they made a record after mark had said what he thought about BCR and they smoothed all that over. They made a record since that potential rift so that isn't to blame for the hiatus.

Also, the BCR album was amazing and probably one of my favourite albums i own. Every song on it is top notch (except my first punk song).

Cat like Thief. I love that song for some reason.

Tristan Needler
07/06/05, 10:58 AM
sorry, but box car racer was fucking awesome.

they were amazing live too, they played every song on the cd. somehow they made 'instrmental' sound good too.

allelish
07/06/05, 11:05 AM
Cat like Thief. I love that song for some reason.
Fuck i love you! :love:

I made a mini disc about 2 years ago of my top 50 songs, and cat like thief was number 1. It may not be number 1 now....but its way up there.

punkpixie
07/06/05, 11:14 AM
Fuck i love you! :love:

I made a mini disc about 2 years ago of my top 50 songs, and cat like thief was number 1. It may not be number 1 now....but its way up there.

I love you too. :love: :love:

That song rules. I love the outro.

miltownrob
07/06/05, 11:55 AM
Is it just me or is Mark starting to come off as the jealous girlfriend type? tom left mark and travis. i'd say he's the abusive boyfriend.

morte
07/06/05, 01:29 PM
I love mark...and honestly from what I heard was that his main beef was that tom was constantly trying to impliment box car type music into blink (if you notice, he wrote a shit load of songs on the untitled album and is singing in most of the songs)...travis also didn't like the direction tom was taking blink...so honestly, I think it's a fine reason for a band to break up...when you can't get along with your bandmates cause they suddenly "mature" or whatever...you're not gonna enjoy making music anymore.

and ya, I predicted this about two years ago...ask Sleepygrlgreen for proof.
Don't think so. Mark was so amazed with the blink "new" sound. I heard that Mark and Travis started writing the next blink album while Tom was in some kind of "vacations". However, becouse of personal things, those vacations became a hiatus and that blink material became Plus44.

SpinKick
07/06/05, 01:42 PM
no one likes bcr anyway

PunkDrums182
07/06/05, 02:11 PM
no one likes bcr anyway
You're a fucking moron. Like I can completely understand you saying you dont like them or being like they suck. But it's pretty fucking obvious that people like them.

Mercy Medical
07/06/05, 02:13 PM
Is it just me or is Mark starting to come off as the jealous girlfriend type?
He doesn't get to do side projects with anyone. I always found that amusing. Tom and Travis did Box Car Racer and then Travis did Transplants, Mark never had a side project.

Dumpweed
07/06/05, 02:15 PM
I really liked Boxcar. Don't get me wrong, I love Blink, but I wouldn't mind hearing more Boxcar.

PunkDrums182
07/06/05, 02:15 PM
He doesn't get to do side projects with anyone. I always found that amusing. Tom and Travis did Box Car Racer and then Travis did Transplants, Mark never had a side project.
Mark is the fucking best.

Mercy Medical
07/06/05, 02:16 PM
Mark is the fucking best.
I don't have a favorite. I really do hate Travis's whole "gangster" punk look though. I hate that look on anybody. :P

workinclasshero
07/06/05, 03:09 PM
He doesn't get to do side projects with anyone. I always found that amusing. Tom and Travis did Box Car Racer and then Travis did Transplants, Mark never had a side project.
Well he did the production of the MCS' new album.

STeverglow301
07/06/05, 03:19 PM
if a factor of blink's break up is the one cd of BCR.. then i say no of course not.. i think BCR is a pretty good band, but not worth tearing blink away.

PunkDrums182
07/06/05, 03:22 PM
if a factor of blink's break up is the one cd of BCR.. then i say no of course not.. i think BCR is a pretty good band, but not worth tearing blink away.
Yea i agree blink is a sexier band overall.

Nick Lopez
07/06/05, 03:24 PM
i agree with what most everyone is saying. i do believe that both BCR and blink were great bands that made great music, but if BCR was a factor in blink's breakup, then it was not worth it at all.

although, i'm not sure that i believe that it really was a factor in their breakup, considering they made an entire cd afterwards, and that i have heard other rumors...

Yea i agree blink is a sexier band overall.
i'm forced to agree. i mean mark has all the sex appeal.

PunkDrums182
07/06/05, 03:35 PM
i agree with what most everyone is saying. i do believe that both BCR and blink were great bands that made great music, but if BCR was a factor in blink's breakup, then it was not worth it at all.

although, i'm not sure that i believe that it really was a factor in their breakup, considering they made an entire cd afterwards, and that i have heard other rumors...


i'm forced to agree. i mean mark has all the sex appeal.
i love you.

Nick Lopez
07/06/05, 03:37 PM
i love you.
what if i told you i was a 86 year old balding woman? with a nose ring.

then would you love me?

STeverglow301
07/06/05, 04:12 PM
what if i told you i was a 86 year old balding woman? with a nose ring.

then would you love me?
i would... baby.

PunkDrums182
07/06/05, 04:29 PM
what if i told you i was a 86 year old balding woman? with a nose ring.

then would you love me?
MORE.

Nick Lopez
07/06/05, 04:33 PM
well then..

i think something is wrong with the two of you. because that is not attractive. at all.

STeverglow301
07/06/05, 05:11 PM
well then..

i think something is wrong with the two of you. because that is not attractive. at all.
maybe its with you?

Nick Lopez
07/06/05, 05:23 PM
no. no it isnt.

STeverglow301
07/06/05, 05:29 PM
no. no it isnt.
alright... reasonable.

Nick Lopez
07/06/05, 05:30 PM
damn straight.

WasteMyTime
07/06/05, 05:44 PM
Don't think so. Mark was so amazed with the blink "new" sound. I heard that Mark and Travis started writing the next blink album while Tom was in some kind of "vacations". However, becouse of personal things, those vacations became a hiatus and that blink material became Plus44.
see I didn't hear it that way at all...most the interviews and whatnot I read it'd seemed as though Mark was just agreeing with Tom but his heart was never in it...the album really didn't reflect who he was as a person which was a problem...Mark could careless about "maturing" while Tom wants to be scene.

also with that whole jealous gf comment...I disagree cause Mark had nothing to be jealous of...BCR was nothing close to blink 182...

also, Mark did a lot on the side...he may have never had a "side band" but I know he did some bass lines for Me First and the Gimme Gimme's..also started Atticus...produced the MCS album...he's done more than Tom has on the side if you ask me...

Nick Lopez
07/06/05, 05:49 PM
see I didn't hear it that way at all...most the interviews and whatnot I read it'd seemed as though Mark was just agreeing with Tom but his heart was never in it...the album really didn't reflect who he was as a person which was a problem...Mark could careless about "maturing" while Tom wants to be scene.

also with that whole jealous gf comment...I disagree cause Mark had nothing to be jealous of...BCR was nothing close to blink 182...

also, Mark did a lot on the side...he may have never had a "side band" but I know he did some bass lines for Me First and the Gimme Gimme's..also started Atticus...produced the MCS album...he's done more than Tom has on the side if you ask me...
that's true, i like that idea.

PunkDrums182
07/06/05, 05:52 PM
I love Mark.

WasteMyTime
07/06/05, 05:53 PM
that's true, i like that idea.
thanks...also something a lot of people often forget...I'm not 100% sure but I vaguely remember that Mark and Tom both had their first children around the same time...Mark opted to stay home and do nothing but spend time with family...on the other hand, Tom went on tour with BCR...now honestly...I can't help but think that that's greedy and just horrible to do as a father...for such a "mature" person, he seems to skip a lot of things most adults ought to do

Nick Lopez
07/06/05, 05:54 PM
thanks...also something a lot of people often forget...I'm not 100% sure but I vaguely remember that Mark and Tom both had their first children around the same time...Mark opted to stay home and do nothing but spend time with family...on the other hand, Tom went on tour with BCR...now honestly...I can't help but think that that's greedy and just horrible to do as a father...for such a "mature" person, he seems to skip a lot of things most adults ought to do
woah, this is news to me. i didnt realize this stuff. yeah, i defintiely agree with you on that statement-if i had a kid, i definitely would not be touring with my side band. thats messed up.

morte
07/06/05, 09:54 PM
I hate this fucking situation. Everyone is saying things like if blink were gone forever. Let's hope blink is not really over , and if they are, don't start blaming members of the band and just enjoy the music they did for such a long time. Don't destroy it.

Northstar1245
07/06/05, 10:18 PM
I love Mark.
I Love You :love:

But honestly, if there was no Boxcar there wouldn't have been that awesome untitled album...regardless of whether or not Mark liked it it would have been another album like EOTS or TOYPAJ...which wouldn't have been a bad thing...I'm a huge Blink fan...but eventually it would have become redundant and repetitive...I love the Boxcar cd and I love Blink all around...but all of these new side projects coming out are going to be new and refreshing and it will be nice...if Blink makes another record I will buy it and most likely love it...but if they don't and they just do their side projects thats fine.....but no matter what...none of them will ever top Blink182

PS. Mark is dead sexy :thumbsup:

CutTheStrings
07/07/05, 04:39 PM
Boxcar is good but its not the only reason that blink broke up.

funnytalkinfish
07/07/05, 04:41 PM
yeah but after the box car record blink made there best cd yet if it werent for box car they probally would have carried on and made take of your pants and jacket part 2

PunkDrums182
07/07/05, 07:19 PM
thanks...also something a lot of people often forget...I'm not 100% sure but I vaguely remember that Mark and Tom both had their first children around the same time...Mark opted to stay home and do nothing but spend time with family...on the other hand, Tom went on tour with BCR...now honestly...I can't help but think that that's greedy and just horrible to do as a father...for such a "mature" person, he seems to skip a lot of things most adults ought to do
It's probably cause mark is cooler.

If they really are done for good i blame avril lavigne and richard simmons.

yeah but after the box car record blink made there best cd yet if it werent for box car they probally would have carried on and made take of your pants and jacket part 2
I love the new cd, but i'd love that cd too. So whatever. I just think it'd be amazing to see another cd like the last one, I can only imagine it being better and even more matured.

Boxcar is good but its not the only reason that blink broke up.
i was saying " what if "

Skyline
07/07/05, 10:02 PM
Was an amazing album.. But BCR only put out one and to measure blink's whole run and all the cds they put out against one cd.. then no.

Northstar1245
07/07/05, 10:03 PM
I listened to it for the first time in a while today (the untitled one) and I realized I like Mark's songs a lot better...mainly Here's Your Letter, Stockholm Syndrome, and Go....I :love: the cd, but I've always been partial to Mark's songs...perfect example....Shut Up...best song on TOYPAJ

sleepygrlgreen
07/07/05, 10:04 PM
I Love You :love:

But honestly, if there was no Boxcar there wouldn't have been that awesome untitled album...regardless of whether or not Mark liked it it would have been another album like EOTS or TOYPAJ...which wouldn't have been a bad thing...I'm a huge Blink fan...but eventually it would have become redundant and repetitive...I love the Boxcar cd and I love Blink all around...but all of these new side projects coming out are going to be new and refreshing and it will be nice...if Blink makes another record I will buy it and most likely love it...but if they don't and they just do their side projects thats fine.....but no matter what...none of them will ever top Blink182

PS. Mark is dead sexy :thumbsup:
The untitled album was far from awesome. It sucked. Blink had their run and unfortunately they had to call it quits, which was for the better at this point. What Richter said is true about what happened between the band. Box Car only prolonged the inevitable. They just would have broken up sooner.

SK_mo
07/07/05, 10:13 PM
The one BCR album wasn't on the level of really anything Blink did, so no.
Too be honest I think they're pretty close is terms of song structure and whatnot the only difference is they switched Mark for a new singer and brought in one other guy....other than that its the same fucking thing...



(side note I'm actually a fan of both either way)

notetoxself
07/10/05, 08:17 PM
the boxcar racer album, is one of my all time favorites

monkeyboy14
07/11/05, 04:41 AM
Box Car were alright. Sometimes I like it other times I don't. But it does have some really shitty guitar work. Some verses are just the same chord strummed repeatedly. That is the most uncreative shit I have ever heard.

CircaEnder
07/11/05, 07:35 AM
i love the bcr album and i mean now that travis and mark are doing plus 44 i think there should be another bcr cd.

PunkDrums182
07/12/05, 01:14 PM
The untitled album was far from awesome. It sucked. Blink had their run and unfortunately they had to call it quits, which was for the better at this point. What Richter said is true about what happened between the band. Box Car only prolonged the inevitable. They just would have broken up sooner.
How can you say it sucked? do you have a reason?