Terrorists attack London

[tRigGerFinGeR]

I woke up this morning (10ish), and all the phones are down. There have been 6 bombs exploded in London... so far 20 people have been killed. 3 of the bombs were on buses, which have had their tops blown clean off and 3 others on the underground.

My friend works right next to where one bomb went off, he was on msn messeneger telling me what he could see, loads of men in chemical suits and stuff. But he had to go because armed guards were evacuting everyone.

Apparently phones are down, because all mobile phone networks have been shut off, because bombs can be detonated by phones.

Someone, who was an eye witness said. "The bus ripped open like a can of sardines and bodies everywhere."

[Blueskyburning]

I have been reading about this since I got up, it's well fucked up, very scary.

[Alex Djaferis]

holy shit, i just went to bbc and cnn...i hope you are all ok.

[Blueskyburning]

i live in a little town by the sea so i doubt there will be anything going on here, atleast i hope so.

[Alex Djaferis]

terrorists are the scum of this world. fucking dirt at the back of my shoe when i step in shit by mistake.

[Shoes]

fuck sake, what an image to wake up to. Half my family live in London and my two older sister's are there, luckily my oldest was traveling there and she called me and my other sister was asleep at home. I told em to come back to Bristol, I hope no other blasts go off this is fucked.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

holy shit, i just went to bbc and cnn...i hope you are all ok.
I'm not in central London either, just on the outskirts.

From BBC news on the TV "These blasts are almost certainly the work of the Al Qaeda"

[Alex Djaferis]

BBC booted me...its too busy. keep me updated.....most of my friends from school go to uni in london...so im a bit worried.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41276000/jpg/_41276875_bus_tavistock300.jpg

If you can just see that bus - the TV pictures are clearer - it has it's roof blown off. Another bus that exploded wasn't even a "London bus" it was a tourist bus.

Every plane that is flying low over my house, scares the hell out of me. You know the noise as it gets closer and louder.

[Shoes]

They've closed off Swindon and Brighton train station's too.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

They've closed off Swindon and Brighton train station's too.
Probably because they can't get to their destinations, so no point running. All London transport, every single bit of it is stopped

[Shoes]

This is insane, I'm staying in my house in Bristol forever

[Alex Djaferis]

it was a matter of time before london got hit...but damn. this sucks.

[when 4ever ends]

jhere is an article from BBC



Large numbers of casualties have been reported after at least six explosions on the Underground network and a double-decker bus in London.

UK Home Secretary Charles Clarke said several explosions in central London had caused "terrible injuries".

The BBC's Frank Gardner said Arab sources said the blasts were probably the work of al-Qaeda but police have not confirmed a terrorist link.

All Tube services and bus services in central London have been suspended.

London police chief Sir Ian Blair urged people to stay where they were and not to call emergency services unless it was a life-threatening situation.

Sir Ian said there had been "many casualties" but said it was too early to put a figure to those killed or injured and he reassured the public that an emergency plan was in place and the situation was "steadily coming under control".

Mr Clarke told reporters outside Downing Street: "The health services are in support to deal with the terrible injuries that there have been."

Sir Ian Blair said there had been at least six explosions, but said the picture was still "very confused".

Scotland Yard said explosions have been reported at Edgware Road, King's Cross, Liverpool Street, Russell Square, Aldgate East and Moorgate.

08:49 police called to Liverpool Street tube station after reports of a bang
Blasts also reported at Aldgate East, Edgware Rd, Kings Cross, Moorgate, Russell Square tube stations
10:14 Reports of blast on bus at Tavistock Square

Number 10 said it was "still unsure" whether the explosions were a terrorist attack and although casualties were reported, no further details were yet available.

Prime Minister Tony Blair is to make a live televised statement on the explosions in London at 1200 BST, Downing Street added.

All London Underground services have been suspended indefinitely and bus services in central London (Zone One) have been halted.

A spokesman for Vodafone said emergency services were being given priority access to the mobile phone network which was causing problems for other users.

One caller to BBC Five said his friend had seen "the bus ripped open like a can of sardines and bodies everywhere".

Loyita Worley, who works for a City law firm, said she was on the underground train when an explosion took place in the next carriage, while it was in a tunnel.

The 49-year-old said: "All the lights went out and the train came to an immediate halt. There was smoke everywhere and everyone was coughing and choking, but remained calm. We couldn't open the doors."

Once the doors were opened they were taken along to Liverpool Street station.

She said the carriage where an explosion happened was "black on the inside" she saw people who appeared to have their clothes blown off, and she saw bodies lying inside the carriage.

And the Press Association quoted union officials as saying sources had told them there had been at least one explosive device on the Underground.


There was immediately smoke everywhere and it was hot and everybody panicked. People started screaming and crying
Jacqui Head
BBC News

Bus 'ripped apart' in explosion
Have you been affected?

British Transport Police said incidents took place at Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square stations.

Scotland Yard confirmed they were assisting with a "major incident" and said there were casualties.

Hospitals have said they are no longer accepting non-emergency cases, BBC Five Live reported.

The National Grid, which supplies power to the Underground, said there had been no problems with its system which could have contributed to the incidents.

'Screaming and crying'

Jacqui Head, from BBC News, who had just left King's Cross station on a Piccadilly Line train as an explosion happened, said: "Everything was normal. Suddenly there was a massive bang, the train jolted.

"There was immediately smoke everywhere and it was hot and everybody panicked. People started screaming and crying."

The train was kept in the tunnel for 20 minutes and no announcement was made to explain the delay to passengers, she added.

Liberal Democrat MP Simon Hughes, near Kings Cross, told Five Live: "My only thought in the midst of all this confusion is that after the celebration of yesterday (for the Olympic 2012 London success) for people to be evil enough - if it is the intentional causing of death and injury - and think that they can justify this in any circumstances is completely unacceptable."

London Fire Brigade said four crews were at Liverpool Street and more were on their way.

Another passenger, who had left the Tube at Fenchurch Street Station, and walked to Aldgate East, told BBC Five Live that he saw injured people.

"As I walked through the bus station I could see people lying on the ground, black, as if they'd been covered in smoke. There were about three or four people on the floor being treated."

Eyewitness Paul Woloszyn from BBC News, who was at Blackhorse Road station on the Victoria Line, said: "We were told there was a bomb at Liverpool Street station.

"I was on the Tube, and they stopped the train and told everyone to get off and evacuate the station."

He said staff had said the entire Tube network had been affected, and leaflets had been handed out with details of alternative bus routes.

Another eyewitness, Dorothy Molloy, had been on a Tube train at King's Cross and said "staff just chucked everyone out of the station".

She said staff there had not given any details, but she said two passengers she had spoken to had said they had received messages saying there had been bombs.

"People didn't really know what was going on, they were just huffing and puffing and saying how annoying it was," she said.

"People don't seem to be panicked, but there's so many police and ambulances coming into the areas. People are just concerned, and some are just annoyed at the delay."

[tRigGerFinGeR]

I was watching BBC and they said some pictures maybe disturbing, an ambulance pulled up and a guy got out with alot of help. He couldn't see, he was like injured and they put him in a wheel chair, and I thought fucking hell.

Then the other door opened and a man on a trolly thing was wheeled out, he was blown up, he was cut up really bad and they were constanstly pumping his heart to keep him alive as they wheeled him, man this is bad

[Alex Djaferis]

I smell a bad next few weeks/months :(...
this is ripping me apart guys...i dont know why, but im so sensitive to bad news like this...

[SuperWoman7700]

I'm in london right now too. i can't believe this

[when 4ever ends]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41276000/jpg/_41276681_aldgatefire_pa203_300.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41276000/gif/_41276977_central_londonblast2_map. gif

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41276000/gif/_41276555_liverpool_street2_map203. gif

has USA s terrorist level been raised?

[punkpixie]

Fuck.Fuck.Fuck.





This is Hell.

[SuperWoman7700]

Fuck.Fuck.Fuck.





This is Hell.
I am so sorry.

[punkpixie]

I am so sorry.

The world is mad. We have gone from elation about the olympics to this devastation in the space of 24hours.

[Alex Djaferis]

im sorry to...to all of you in england at the moment...im going to send some love vibes over the channel..

fuck.

[Shoes]

My friend said unofficial reports said 100 people have been killed

im sorry to...to all of you in england at the moment...im going to send some love vibes over the channel..

fuck.
cheers:)

[punkpixie]

You know what, we had a terrorist expert on TV along time ago talking about London and Terrorist attack, he said it was not a case of if, but when. He was totally right.

[Alex Djaferis]

of course he was right Ellie :( it sucks. it really was just a matter of time...but the timing was just horrible for you guys....and the world...man, this is just backtracking a few years. this is retarded.
damn blind cowards.

[Lueda Alia]

I smell a bad next few weeks/months :(...
this is ripping me apart guys...i dont know why, but im so sensitive to bad news like this...
I know what you mean. *gives you a big hug*.

I was expecting something like this to happen, I swear to God... I even told my mom and I'm surprised it took such a long time but freaking hell.. it's always horrible when it happens. I just hope my relatives in London are OK. :( We can't contact them at all so this is fucked up.

[punkpixie]

of course he was right Ellie :( it sucks. it really was just a matter of time...but the timing was just horrible for you guys....and the world...man, this is just backtracking a few years. this is retarded.
damn blind cowards.

I just can't believe the timing of it. It seems like everything that is happening right now, is happening in the UK: G8, terrorist attacks, us winning the olympics. It's fucking crazy.

[Shoes]

It's a result of bombing Iraq, it happend to Spain and now it's happened to us. It doesn't feel real

[punkpixie]

I know what you mean. *gives you a big hug*.

I was expecting something like this to happen, I swear to God... I even told my mom and I'm surprised it took such a long time but freaking hell.. it's always horrible when it happens. I just hope my relatives in London are OK. :( We can't contact them at all so this is fucked up.

Yeah everything is down apparently. People are contacting news stations here to let relatives know they are OK.

It's a result of bombing Iraq, it happend to Spain and now it's happened to us. It doesn't feel real

I know. I'm numb.

[Jra1]

i still havent spoken to my mum, she was at kings cross :(

[Shoes]

I heard on the radio from a dude on the underground, the carriage infront of him completely blew apart. fucking revolting

[Alex Djaferis]

Its at times like this that I felt so lucky growing up in a place like switzerland.

and its at times like this that i realise that the world is really coming to end real soon.

[punkpixie]

I heard on the radio from a dude on the underground, the carriage infront of him completely blew apart. fucking revolting

I heard that on the news channel. They were talking to a guy who had his head all bandaged up and stuff. It makes me sick to my stomach.

[Lueda Alia]

It's a result of bombing Iraq, it happend to Spain and now it's happened to us. It doesn't feel real
Yeah, that is why I predicted that London would be next and I BEGGED my relatives to move here or at least to some other city. God, this is fucking horrible.. I'm about to cry right now. I have two uncles there and they're both married and with children (6 kids in total), and I KNOW they take buses all the time.

[Shoes]

World's going to Hell

[punkpixie]

Its at times like this that I felt so lucky growing up in a place like switzerland.

and its at times like this that i realise that the world is really coming to end real soon.

It's weird, I saw 'War of the Worlds' last night and then waking up to this was fucking weird let me tell you!

[Shoes]

Yeah, that is why I predicted that London would be next and I BEGGED my relatives to move here or at least to some other city. God, this is fucking horrible.. I'm about to cry right now. I have two uncles there and they're both married and with children (6 kids in total), and I KNOW they take buses all the time.
Shit! I hope they're okay, do they live in central London?

[Jra1]

i just got phonecall from my auntie, she says my mum is ok... so that's a huge weight off my shoulders - hope every1 elses relatives are ok :(

[Alex Djaferis]

yeah.
its the signs for the end of the world coming in the next while/years/decades.. and im not talking bible talk here. im talking every single archaic culture that has walked the earth talk.

its just all to strange and coincidental.

I have relatives in london and tons of friends....so naturally im totally on edge at the moment.

HUGS to everyone.

[punkpixie]

i just got phonecall from my auntie, she says my mum is ok... so that's a huge weight off my shoulders - hope every1 elses relatives are ok :(

Phew. What a horrible thing to have hanging over you.

[Lueda Alia]

God I fucking want to scream at the Republicans who'd always bitch about how there's not been any terrorist attacks anymore ever since the invasion so therefore it was a good thing to go bomb Iraq. Oh yes I can tell. Fuckers. They piss me off now more than ever. And I know I can say "Well see? I told you that the invasion wasn't going to stop shit and that terrorist attacks did happen still and will continue to happen" but it's so fucking horrible that I'm not even happy to prove them wrong about this. I guess I wish they were right but I knew they weren't anyway.

blah.. it really feels like there's no solution to this whole fucking thing.

[when 4ever ends]

our terror alert level is still at bert http://www.geekandproud.net/terror/terror.php

[punkpixie]

yeah.
its the signs for the end of the world coming in the next while/years/decades.. and im not talking bible talk here. im talking every single archaic culture that has walked the earth talk.

its just all to strange and coincidental.

I have relatives in london and tons of friends....so naturally im totally on edge at the moment.

HUGS to everyone.

HUGS right back. We all need some love right now, british or otherwise.

[Alex Djaferis]

God I fucking want to scream at the Republicans who'd always bitch about how there's not been any terrorist attacks anymore ever since the invasion so therefore it was a good thing to go bomb Iraq. Oh yes I can tell. Fuckers. They piss me off now more than ever. And I know I can say "Well see? I told you that the invasion wasn't going to stop shit and that terrorist attacks did happen still and will continue to happen" but it's so fucking horrible that I'm not even happy to prove them wrong about this. I guess I wish they were right but I knew they weren't anyway.

blah.. it really feels like there's no solution to this whole fucking thing.

eda, you are right. there is no solution. and there never will be. the world will one day implode on its own stupidity and start from scratch. you'll see.

[punkpixie]

God I fucking want to scream at the Republicans who'd always bitch about how there's not been any terrorist attacks anymore ever since the invasion so therefore it was a good thing to go bomb Iraq. Oh yes I can tell. Fuckers. They piss me off now more than ever. And I know I can say "Well see? I told you that the invasion wasn't going to stop shit and that terrorist attacks did happen still and will continue to happen" but it's so fucking horrible that I'm not even happy to prove them wrong about this. I guess I wish they were right but I knew they weren't anyway.

blah.. it really feels like there's no solution to this whole fucking thing.

Attacking Iraq has only made matters worse.

[when 4ever ends]

God I fucking want to scream at the Republicans who'd always bitch about how there's not been any terrorist attacks anymore ever since the invasion so therefore it was a good thing to go bomb Iraq. Oh yes I can tell. Fuckers. They piss me off now more than ever. And I know I can say "Well see? I told you that the invasion wasn't going to stop shit and that terrorist attacks did happen still and will continue to happen" but it's so fucking horrible that I'm not even happy to prove them wrong about this. I guess I wish they were right but I knew they weren't anyway.

blah.. it really feels like there's no solution to this whole fucking thing.
there isnt a terrorist is a terrorist, it dosent matter what presidency their under to bomb places they just do it for shitts and giggles

[Jra1]

fucked if you do and fucked if you don't with those arab countries... try help and you're a 'christian crusader' - leave em be and they beg for aid

[Lueda Alia]

Shit! I hope they're okay, do they live in central London?
I don't know if they live in central London... but I have their addresses... would that help to figure out if they do or not?

[Alex Djaferis]

its not "shits and giggles" dude. thats stupid.
its complete blindness to reality. brainwashing. absolute disconnection from the world that actually evolves around them.

[when 4ever ends]

fucked if you do and fucked if you don't with those arab countries... try help and you're a 'christian crusader' - leave em be and they beg for aid
yup

[Lueda Alia]

Attacking Iraq has only made matters worse.
I know, that is what I've said all along but they'd always say "you have no proof of this". Well if this isn't "proof" then I don't know what is.

I am so worried right now, and my gramma is crying, and I'm sure everyone else is too. They're in Europe (not England..) and they're so worried about our relatives. This is fucking horrible.

[Alex Djaferis]

if i wasnt at work right now, id be glued to the tv and sobbing.

[[Brendan]]

I really hope everybody's family and friends are all ok.

[when 4ever ends]

I know, that is what I've said all along but they'd always say "you have no proof of this". Well if this isn't "proof" then I don't know what is.

I am so worried right now, and my gramma is crying, and I'm sure everyone else is too. They're in Europe (not England..) and they're so worried about our relatives. This is fucking horrible.
try email?

[Shoes]

I don't know if they live in central London... but I have their addresses... would that help to figure out if they do or not?
Yeah dude, what area do they live in?

[Jra1]

most of the explosions were underground... if they were at home chances are they're fine

[Juliet R Delta]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuck

[Lueda Alia]

Yeah dude, what area do they live in?
Well I don't know but these are their addresses:

34 Prescott House,
Illington Street; Brandon
Estate London Se 173 PH U.K.


& the other one:

20 Bolin House
Long Lane SEI IYQ
London

God I hope they weren't near the explosions and I PRAY that they were all home at the time of the attacks. :(

[when 4ever ends]

me: hii
friend: hey
me: whats up
friend: im in London
me: =-O
friend: and 6 bombs went off thismorning
me: =-O
me: i know
me: are you okay?
friend: yeah we were just at those train stations yesterday
friend: none of us are hurt
friend: we werent caught in any of them thank god
friend: but we're suppsed to take a train to a diff. city tmr and everything is closed
me: i wouldnt take a train tommorow even if everything was open
me: id be scared shitless
friend: yeah but i'd rather not be stuck in london either ha
me: true
me: did you hear the bombs and stuff go off?
friend: no
friend: we were at the station and tehy told us we couldnt go in cause there was a power serge
friend: then we went to customer service and the ladey said there is 'just news in' that there were 6 bombs taht have gone off all over london
friend: we were just riding a double decker bus thismorning when it all happened too, and we only a few blocks away from most of the bombs

[Shoes]

Well one of my big sister's live in South London and I think that's where your family live and by all accounts that bit of London is okay.

[when 4ever ends]

friend: the only reason we werent on the subway thismorning is because our tickets didnt go into effect until 9:30, we were waiting outside for 9:30 to come and when it did we found out what happened

[Lueda Alia]

Well one of my big sister's live in South London and I think that's where your family live and by all accounts that bit of London is okay.
I hope so.

[Shoes]

Plus it was super early, don't worry

[Lueda Alia]

Plus it was super early, don't worry
What time did the attacks happen?

[Kid Kilowatt]

It could have been worse.

[Shoes]

the first one was at like 8:15ish I heard

[morte]

Fuck fanatic people. Hope everyone's relatives and friends are ok. I hate terrorism.

[Lueda Alia]

Oh god, look at this... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050707/wl_nm/turkey_train_dc;_ylt=AmzN0w3HLFHMOO 4pB75zVHlbbBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZ hBHNlYwM3MjE-

*sigh*

[Shoes]

Turkey was attacked aswell?

[Lueda Alia]

Turkey was attacked aswell?
I have no idea..

[when 4ever ends]

this is like a movie

im still suprised we are still at elevated. if its not raied today i have lost all hope in the homeland security levels

[Alex Djaferis]

Oh god, look at this... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050707/wl_nm/turkey_train_dc;_ylt=AmzN0w3HLFHMOO 4pB75zVHlbbBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZ hBHNlYwM3MjE-

*sigh*

although thats horrible. i doubt it had anything to do with the london attacks....but lets wait and see.

[when 4ever ends]

where will they go next

[Jra1]

It could have been worse.

tell that to the people who died...

[Lueda Alia]

where will they go next
Let me see.. umm, Italy? Seriously. I am pretty sure that if anything happens, it will be in Italy. If not there then France, Germany, Canada...

[Alex Djaferis]

lets all hope there are no other devices in london...waiting for rescuers etc...

[morte]

"At least 2 killed and more than 90 injured".

[when 4ever ends]

Let me see.. umm, Italy? Seriously. I am pretty sure that if anything happens, it will be in Italy. If not there then France, Germany, Canada...
if anyone ever went after canada you know the world is insane.

[Alex Djaferis]

Let me see.. umm, Italy? Seriously. I am pretty sure that if anything happens, it will be in Italy. If not there then France, Germany, Canada...

any big metropolitan city is potentially at risk.....rome definately...paris...moscow...berli n..franfurt...sigh.

if anyone ever went after canada you know the world is insane.

i was just thinking that.

[Shoes]

My sister just called me to say that our godmother could of been on one of those buses but she had the day off because she hurt herself yesterday, fucking lucky.

[Lueda Alia]

if anyone ever went after canada you know the world is insane.
I know, which is why I was shocked that Canada was like 5th on the terrorists's list of countries to "bomb". I kept asking myself what Canada could have possibly done but then I realized it's probably because Canada is one of the wealthiest countries or whatever.

[Alex Djaferis]

just a while back, a terrorist cell was found here in amsterdam in connection with the madrid al qaida bombings...

I know, which is why I was shocked that Canada was like 5th on the terrorists's list of countries to "bomb". I kept asking myself what Canada could have possibly done but then I realized it's probably because Canada is one of the wealthiest countries or whatever.

where is this list?

[Kid Kilowatt]

tell that to the people who died...
Would you rather it have been people dying by the thousand?

[Lueda Alia]

My sister just called me to say that our godmother could of been on one of those buses but she had the day off because she hurt herself yesterday, fucking lucky.
wow that's scary. I'm glad she's OK.

[when 4ever ends]

I know, which is why I was shocked that Canada was like 5th on the terrorists's list of countries to "bomb". I kept asking myself what Canada could have possibly done but then I realized it's probably because Canada is one of the wealthiest countries or whatever.
any country that has "free" rights these terrorists want to control

[Lueda Alia]

just a while back, a terrorist cell was found here in amsterdam in connection with the madrid al qaida bombings...



where is this list?
hmm I don't know, it's been a while but I can try to find it. I remember it was on the news too though.

[Alex Djaferis]

Would you rather it have been people dying by the thousand?

you cant value human life by numbers my friend.

hmm I don't know, it's been a while but I can try to find it. I remember it was on the news too though.

cool...thanks..i'll have a look too

[morte]

It seems that a web page says that certainly was Al Qaeda and the attack are in relation with Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Shoes]

wow that's scary. I'm glad she's OK.
Me too, I'm so glad she hurt herself could of been so much worse

[Kid Kilowatt]

you cant value human life by numbers my friend.
It is merely an assessment of the situation. Is this bad? Yes. However, it could have been terribly worse. London is quite lucky.

[Alex Djaferis]

It is merely an assessment of the situation. Is this bad? Yes. However, it could have been terribly worse. London is quite lucky.

Yeah. I got the jist of what you were getting at. Its just never that easy to think in those terms when something like this happens. :(

[Jra1]

Would you rather it have been people dying by the thousand?

no but you can't look at a terrible situation and think "it could've been worse..." - hiroshima "could've been worse"


just because only a handful have (reportedly) died so far doesn't take away from the fact this is a terrible incident...

[when 4ever ends]

i wondder what the response was like from britan after 9/11 probally similar to our response to this

[Chemical Love]

I just woke up and saw the news, this is horrible.

[Alex Djaferis]

security at all transport locations worldwide are going to skyrocket. fuck.

[morte]

I'm now watching TV and they say 10 people killed.

[Alex Djaferis]

theyve been saying 10 dead for a while now...id be surprised if it stays so low.

[Shoes]

A suicide bombing?

[Kid Kilowatt]

no but you can't look at a terrible situation and think "it could've been worse..." - hiroshima "could've been worse"


just because only a handful have (reportedly) died so far doesn't take away from the fact this is a terrible incident...
Actually, you can look at a situation and decide whether or not it could've been worse. Two people dying, while sad, isn't comparable to the devastation that would have been wrought by five thousand people dying.

[Lueda Alia]

security at all transport locations worldwide are going to skyrocket. fuck.
I have summer school and I can only miss 4 classes (because the whole thing lasts only one month) and I'm pretty late considering that I've not gotten ready yet.. but I'm so worried that I don't want to move until I know my relatives are OK. And yeah I'm scared of public transport now... and I have to take buses. I know nothing will probably happen here but I'm worried AND scared.

[Chemical Love]

I wonder if there are other attacks being planned.

[Jra1]

Actually, you can look at a situation and decide whether or not it could've been worse. Two people dying, while sad, isn't comparable to the devastation that would have been wrought by five thousand people dying.

its 2 confirmed deaths - they're estimating 90+
yes, 1000's could've died, but 10/100/1000000 - it doesn't matter, a terrorist attack resulting in human life lost is always tragic

[Lueda Alia]

I wonder if there are other attacks being planned.
You can't possibly "wonder"? I'm sure there are. Believe me, they're not done yet, and they won't be for a while. The terrorists that is.

[when 4ever ends]

I have summer school and I can only miss 4 classes (because the whole thing lasts only one month) and I'm pretty late considering that I've not gotten ready yet.. but I'm so worried that I don't want to move until I know my relatives are OK. And yeah I'm scared of public transport now... and I have to take buses. I know nothing will probably happen here but I'm worried AND scared.
im sure youll be fine, the US is the safest its ever been.. well thats what the government likes to tell us.

[Alex Djaferis]

I have summer school and I can only miss 4 classes (because the whole thing lasts only one month) and I'm pretty late considering that I've not gotten ready yet.. but I'm so worried that I don't want to move until I know my relatives are OK. And yeah I'm scared of public transport now... and I have to take buses. I know nothing will probably happen here but I'm worried AND scared.

i take the subway every single day. its a little scary. but thats exactly the aim of the terrorist. freak us out. we gotta stay above it.

[Shoes]

its 2 confirmed deaths - they're estimating 90+
yes, 1000's could've died, but 10/100/1000000 - it doesn't matter, a terrorist attack resulting in human life lost is always tragic
Exactly, it could of been a whole worse yet, but people have still lost their lives no matter the amount.

[Kid Kilowatt]

its 2 confirmed deaths - they're estimating 90+
yes, 1000's could've died, but 10/100/1000000 - it doesn't matter, a terrorist attack resulting in human life lost is always tragic
Reading is fundamental. I've said numerous times that it is a terrible thing, but it could have been so much worse. Thank god that it wasn't.

[morte]

Actually, you can look at a situation and decide whether or not it could've been worse. Two people dying, while sad, isn't comparable to the devastation that would have been wrought by five thousand people dying.
They want people to panic and to be scared. No matter how many people die.

[when 4ever ends]

You can't possibly "wonder"? I'm sure there are. Believe me, they're not done yet, and they won't be for a while. The terrorists that is.
agreed.. this remeinds me of 24 this season, there was an attack at a subway and then all over the country.

i dont think its over yet

[Alex Djaferis]

well so far, the bastards who did this have the upper hand. everyones in panic.

[Chemical Love]

You can't possibly "wonder"? I'm sure there are. Believe me, they're not done yet, and they won't be for a while. The terrorists that is.
Yea I know, I guess I'm just wondering if anything else is gonna happen soon. I hope not.

[when 4ever ends]

the irony of me listening to war all the time when this happened

[Alex Djaferis]

10:02 Scotland Yard says it is dealing with a "major incident."

it happened at 9 15. took them 1 hour to figure that statement out. geez.

[Chemical Love]

Is everyone that is at these boards from London safe?

[Alex Djaferis]

Is everyone that is at these boards from London safe?

so far so good. but many of us have relatives all over london.

[Jra1]

Reading is fundamental. I've said numerous times that it is a terrible thing, but it could have been so much worse. Thank god that it wasn't.

yea i know, i'm not really slating you - so fuck right off with the reading remark - but i'm just saying how insensitive it is to make that sort've remark when it's obvious people on this thread are still unsure of the safety of family/friends...

[Kid Kilowatt]

The war on terrorism is working, guys.

[Alex Djaferis]

The war on terrorism is working, guys.

Yep. Sure is.

[when 4ever ends]

i know exthuse and allelish are the onlly ones from UK not to post here.. im not up to date on all of our UK members.. but i think there the only 2 that i havent seen post here that are from the UK

[Chemical Love]

so far so good. but many of us have relatives all over london.
For those of you that do, I hope for the best.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

Tony Blair from the G8 summit just make a statement, agreed upon by all the leaders at the summit. About how while they have a meeting to discuss how to improve life for less fortunate people around the world. Terrorists plan and carry out attacks to destroy life.

It still hasn't fully sunk in, other terroriost attacks, were less "real" - don't take that the wrong way. But untl it happens right on your door step it doesn't seem like, I don't know, doesn't seem reality as much

[Alex Djaferis]

allelish isnt in london as far as i know.

[Lueda Alia]

10:02 Scotland Yard says it is dealing with a "major incident."

it happened at 9 15. took them 1 hour to figure that statement out. geez.
Scotland?!?!

The war on terrorism is working, guys.
Ah yes, we can thank Bush.

[Alex Djaferis]

Scotland?!?!

haha its not scotland as the country :) its just the "intelligence" people.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

Scotland?!?!


Ah yes, we can thank Bush.
It's just called Scotland Yard

[[Brendan]]

allelish isnt in london as far as i know.I think allelish lives in Wales so I doubt it.

[Lueda Alia]

haha its not scotland as the country :) its just the "intelligence" people.
oohh ok. well that's good, because I have frineds there.

[Alex Djaferis]

']I think allelish lives in Wales so I doubt it.
thats it. hes in wales. your right.

[Chemical Love]

Tony Blair from the G8 summit just make a statement, agreed upon by all the leaders at the summit. About how while they have a meeting to discuss how to improve life for less fortunate people around the world. Terrorists plan and carry out attacks to destroy life.

It still hasn't fully sunk in, other terroriost attacks, were less "real" - don't take that the wrong way. But untl it happens right on your door step it doesn't seem like, I don't know, doesn't seem reality as much
I understand what you're saying. A lot of times it takes something to hit close to home before you really feel it.

[when 4ever ends]

i think exthuse is in derby or somthing like that

[morte]

They now are saying almost 50 people killed... those pictures in the TV are horrible, the news girl is almost crying.

[Jra1]

Scotland?!?!


Ah yes, we can thank Bush.

metropolitan (london) police HQ is called Scotland Yard

[Kid Kilowatt]

yea i know, i'm not really slating you - so fuck right off with the reading remark - but i'm just saying how insensitive it is to make that sort've remark when it's obvious people on this thread are still unsure of the safety of family/friends...
Sugar coating things does not make them better.

[Lueda Alia]

metropolitan (london) police HQ is called Scotland Yard
yeah, I got it now. I thought it was weird that Alex called Scotland (the country) "Scotland Yard" but I didn't know. you learn something new every day!

[Alex Djaferis]

im actually glad that im not at home watching this on TV...seeing ht pictures in motion would hit me way to hard.

[Lueda Alia]

My relatives are okay. Thank God.

[when 4ever ends]

My relatives are okay. Thank God.
gooooood

[SkaBum14]

Holy crap. I just sent an email to my friend over there to check on them. I know they use the buses and undergrounds a TON to get around because none of them even own cars over there. So are the phone networks still closed down?

[Shoes]

My relatives are okay. Thank God.
That's good news phewphew

[Alex Djaferis]

My relatives are okay. Thank God.

excellent.

my whole GF's side of the family lives in london...and we havnt heard a thing yet...

[Chemical Love]

Pres Bush is making a speech..

[Alex Djaferis]

Pres Bush is making a speech..

another "smoke em' out' speech i bet

[Shoes]

another "smoke em' out' speech i bet
I'd bet money

[Pennington]

My dad works in russel square and was on a bus 50 yards behind the one that blew up , hes a very lucky man and is still currently stuck at work where the police have sealed it off. Scary stuff man, He saw it explode

[The_Crowing]

By this time last year I was in the exact location where the doubledecker blew up......
Unreal.....

I really hope all of you in London and your relatives are alright. This is really fucked up.

[Alex Djaferis]

My dad works in russel square and was on a bus 50 yards behind the one that blew up , hes a very lucky man and is still currently stuck at work where the police have sealed it off. Scary stuff man, He saw it explode

whoa...wow. lucky

[morte]

another "smoke em' out' speech i bet
He will never learn to shut the fuck up.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

They now are saying almost 50 people killed... those pictures in the TV are horrible, the news girl is almost crying.
2 people confirmed dead. But that's because - and this is sad to say, but real, obviously the found 2 "whole" people, the buses were full. The roof of the bus i saw was blown clean off, and outwards, i doubt anyone would have survived?

i mean, look...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41277000/jpg/_41277243_bus_obi_reader_203.jpg

[when 4ever ends]

on now?

[Chemical Love]

His little speech is over. The sound was kinda bad so I couldnt really hear him.

[Alex Djaferis]

12:35 Scotland Yard revises the number of blasts down to four, three in the underground system and one on a bus. These are: Russell Square and Kings Cross Underground, Moorgate, Aldgate and Liverpool Street Underground, Edgware Road station and Tavistock Square where there was an explosion on a bus

12:51 Emergency services personnel tells CNN writer William Chamberlain that all survivors had been evacuated from Kings Cross station, leaving the dead below ground "in the double digits

13:22 Police say bomb on train at Edgware Road underground exploded as a second train was passing and hit both trains.

[punklet2101]

I was driving with some friends in the car on the way home from church and my friends phone rang, we're still waiting to know if her boyfriend is okay... :( We just sat and watched the news for a couple of hours.. they gave this hotline where you can ring and find out if loved ones are okay and it didn't even work. Great help. We just sat in the lounge and prayed... I hope he is okay

[tRigGerFinGeR]

13:22 Police say bomb on train at Edgware Road underground exploded as a second train was passing and hit both trains.

fuck

[Alex Djaferis]

1333 US President George W Bush, speaking at the Gleneagles summit in Scotland, condemns the attacks, saying that the blasts show the war on terror must continue

[tRigGerFinGeR]

I was driving with some friends in the car on the way home from church and my friends phone rang, we're still waiting to know if her boyfriend is okay... :( We just sat and watched the news for a couple of hours.. they gave this hotline where you can ring and find out if loved ones are okay and it didn't even work. Great help. We just sat in the lounge and prayed... I hope he is okay
Phones in England are down or really busy, because mobiles/cell phones had to be shutdown, bcause they can be used as triggers. So everyone went to the landlines calling offices and calling mobiles (just gettng a could not connect speech)

[Chemical Love]

13:22 Police say bomb on train at Edgware Road underground exploded as a second train was passing and hit both trains.
Those fucking cock suckers.

[Alex Djaferis]

1215 The ambulance service says there are people still trapped at King's Cross station, and efforts are being made to rescue them

1210 The BBC's Security Correspondent Frank Gardner says BBC monitoring services have located a website linked to al-Qaeda with a 200-word statement saying it carried out the bombings

[morte]

13:22 Police say bomb on train at Edgware Road underground exploded as a second train was passing and hit both trains.
They did the same in Madrid.

[Chemical Love]

1210 The BBC's Security Correspondent Frank Gardner says BBC monitoring services have located a website linked to al-Qaeda with a 200-word statement saying it carried out the bombings
Thats not confrimed yet that its real.

[Lueda Alia]

1333 US President George W Bush, speaking at the Gleneagles summit in Scotland, condemns the attacks, saying that the blasts show the war on terror must continue
ah yes because it is sure helping. screw him.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41277000/jpg/_41277449_bus_close_reader.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41277000/jpg/_41277651_bus_side.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41277000/jpg/_41277737_trapped_keith_tagg.jpg

"This photo by Adam Stacey is available on the internet and claims to show people trapped on the underground system"

[Alex Djaferis]

Thats not confrimed yet that its real.

Yep. but it wouldnt exactly be a shocker.

[Lueda Alia]

Oh, look.. what did I say again..?!?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_mi_ea/britain_explosions_al_qaida

[Chemical Love]

I have to get to work and Fuck Terrorists.

[Jra1]

ah yes because it is sure helping. screw him.

and you'd prefer we just give it all up...?
i'm not a warmonger, but stopping it all will do less good than fighting through to the end tbh

[Kid Kilowatt]

Terrorist cells are hard to fight/detect when your resources are diverted.

[morte]

Oh, look.. what did I say again..?!?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_mi_ea/britain_explosions_al_qaida
"The group al-Qaida in Europe claimed responsibility for the last major terror attack in Europe: a string of bombs that hit commuter trains in Madrid, Spain in March 2004, killing 191 people."

The same fuckers.

[when 4ever ends]

ah yes because it is sure helping. screw him.
if we were to just give up there would be more attacks

[Alex Djaferis]

if we were to just give up there would be more attacks

im not too sure about that.

alot of the hatred stems from all the wars carried out on assumptions.

[Lueda Alia]

and you'd prefer we just give it all up...?
i'm not a warmonger, but stopping it all will do less good than fighting through to the end tbh
you can't fight "terrorism". the more you try to "fight" it, the more things get messed up because do you have any idea about how much al qaeda actually loves that? they use that as an excuse to continue with their terrorist attacks, they use that as a reason to brainwash all those fuckers who blow themselves up. seriously, just what has "the war on terrorism" solved so far? I'm just curious.

[Alex Djaferis]

"Rejoice, Islamic nation. Rejoice, Arab world. The time has come for vengeance against the Zionist crusader government of Britain in response to the massacres Britain committed in Iraq and Afghanistan," said the statement, translated by The Associated Press in Cairo.



Talk about fucking brainwashed and blind...i hate statements like that

[Kid Kilowatt]

if we were to just give up there would be more attacks
She's not suggesting we not fight terrorism. She is saying the way he wishes to go about it has obviously created more of a problem than it has helped.

[when 4ever ends]

im not too sure about that.

alot of the hatred stems from all the wars carried out on assumptions.
we would just be letting them organize if we gave up.

[Lueda Alia]

im not too sure about that.

alot of the hatred stems from all the wars carried out on assumptions.
yes, exactly.

[Alex Djaferis]

we would just be letting them organize if we gave up.

organize? theyre organized enough by the looks of it.

[when 4ever ends]

She's not suggesting we not fight terrorism. She is saying the way he wishes to go about it has obviously created more of a problem than it has helped.
how other way are we suppose to do it?

organize? theyre organized enough by the looks of it.
true

[Lueda Alia]

I remember hearing something about a lot of young Arabs from Europe leaving to go to Iraq/Afghanistan to "help" or something along those lines. And that's what I mean.. the more you attack them, the more they'll attack back, and a lot of people (especially those young silly tards) will believe what Al Qaeda and whatever other organization says to them.

[SkaBum14]

I'm not sure if anyone's said it already, but I'm trying to figure something out - does anyone know specifically around what time this happened?

[Lueda Alia]

I'm not sure if anyone's said it already, but I'm trying to figure something out - does anyone know specifically around what time this happened?
I think it was around 8 am?

[punklet2101]

Phones in England are down or really busy, because mobiles/cell phones had to be shutdown, bcause they can be used as triggers. So everyone went to the landlines calling offices and calling mobiles (just gettng a could not connect speech)
Yeah... it's an Australian number though.

[SkaBum14]

I think it was around 8 am?

London time?

[Lueda Alia]

London time?
yeah.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

It was past 9. Not meaning to be pedantic, just giving what the news broadcasters are saying

[Lueda Alia]

It was past 9. Not meaning to be pedantic, just giving what the news broadcasters are saying
oh, well, I thought it was around 8 because Shoes said that an explosion happened at 8:15 or something like that.

[SkaBum14]

yeah.

Hmmmm........that's right around the time my friends over there take off and take the trains/underground/buses to work. I was just trying to figure out what time because my friend over there usually hops on AIM really quick before he heads out to work in the morning. I was still up when he was leaving and he didn't mention anything, so it must have happened shortly after he left. I still haven't heard anything from him.

It was past 9. Not meaning to be pedantic, just giving what the news broadcasters are saying

Ok.

[morte]

8:45 i heard.

[SkaBum14]

There we go, he just answered back and he's ok. I guess some of them were right near where he works and they went off about 5 minutes after he got there.

[Candy_Warhol]

There we go, he just answered back and he's ok. I guess some of them were right near where he works and they went off about 5 minutes after he got there.

that's good. i'm glad he's okay.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

oh, well, I thought it was around 8 because Shoes said that an explosion happened at 8:15 or something like that.
oh right, if i'm wrong sorry, i was just repeating what they said about, i think, the bus explosion

[Kid Kilowatt]

how other way are we suppose to do it?
Well, I don't suppose instigating a war with Iraq has helped our fight. However, one way to fight it is to change our foreign policy. The west cannot win if our policy is to invade to change people. That simply creates more enmity. We'll no longer support corrupt governnments. This includes Israel and the Saudis. We'll help those in the Middle East through other, non-violent efforts.
We also have to get away from oil, as we are funding both teams. We pay taxes to help fund our protection, then turn around and spend money on oil, which in turn is used to fund terrorism. We cannot have it both ways.

[SkaBum14]

that's good. i'm glad he's okay.

Yeah, he said all transportation is shut down so he doesn't know how he's going to get home tonight. Apparently lines for taxis are ridiculous and blocks long.

[Alex Djaferis]

i just have to post this in its entirety. because its freeking crazy and it just shows how insane extremists really are.

In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."




If only they knew what 'God' would do to them once they die. They have another thing coming.

[Candy_Warhol]

Yeah, he said all transportation is shut down so he doesn't know how he's going to get home tonight. Apparently lines for taxis are ridiculous and blocks long.

well...maybe by later on this afternoon (i don't know what time it is in London) they'll be a little better.

[punklet2101]

World's going to Hell
I refuse to think like that.. there's still good in the world and at times like these it really shines

[Kid Kilowatt]

i just have to post this in its entirety. because its freeking crazy and it just shows how insane extremists really are.

In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."




If only they knew what 'God' would do to them once they die. They have another thing coming.
We, meaning the west, were once like that.

[miltownrob]

"We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all crusader governments that they will receive the same punishment if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan"

thats messed up

[Alex Djaferis]

We, meaning the west, were once like that.

Yes. Once.

[funnytalkinfish]

my mate just rang me he is at work and they wont let anyone out of his office

[bopst]

Terrorist bombing in London by "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe"? Damn....

[Kid Kilowatt]

Yes. Once.
They've not had the chance for growth we've had, and let's be honest, the west didn't want that, as it would make them harder to control. What we couldn't forsee, despite what history has shown us, was how they'd respond.

[trustmeimokay]

This shit is never gonna stop. Fuck.

[when 4ever ends]

you are correct

[Lueda Alia]

God, my other uncle called and he said that he was going to take a bus around the time of the attacks because he was going to go to his lawyer's office which is around where the attacks happened. Thank God his wife had stopped him.. for whatever reason. Blarg.. this is freaking scary to think about.

[Blueskyburning]

on irc:

[14:42] <stevenson> burn london burn while i´m just watching it on tv
[14:42] <stevenson> :D

i am pissed to fuck.

[tRigGerFinGeR]

on irc:

[14:42] <stevenson> burn london burn while i´m just watching it on tv
[14:42] <stevenson> :D

i am pissed to fuck.
What a fucking moron. For starters, nothing is burning, so what is it watching?

[Blueskyburning]

i dunno, but he is a fucking idiot and needs cutting

[SkaBum14]

Looks like the dead just jumped from 2 to 40 according to cnn.

[Blueskyburning]

[14:46] <stevenson> yup it´s funny cause they are just stupid
<saetia> whats funny, the fact bombs have been going off in london?
[14:46] <stevenson> i´m swede, but i´m a exchange student in brazil
[14:47] <stevenson> yup cause they think they are better than other ppl in the world

what a fucking idiot

[Alex Djaferis]

Looks like the dead just jumped from 2 to 40 according to cnn.

yeah, i have a feeling we're gonna be adding a digit to that number by tomorrow.

[when 4ever ends]

[14:46] <stevenson> yup it´s funny cause they are just stupid
<saetia> whats funny, the fact bombs have been going off in london?
[14:46] <stevenson> i´m swede, but i´m a exchange student in brazil
[14:47] <stevenson> yup cause they think they are better than other ppl in the world

what a fucking idiot
does he have aol ;)

[Candy_Warhol]

Looks like the dead just jumped from 2 to 40 according to cnn.

they said maybe 45? i think there will be more then that, they still have a "crime scene" in one of the tunnels that still has bodies they haven't removed yet. : \

[Alex Djaferis]

something very symbolic that i picked up from part of an account:





There was a terrible sense of shock among members of the public.

Police I talked to were more phlegmatic. It was always a case of not if but when London would be hit, one officer told me.

Amid all the chaos of today's atrocities there was one particularly potent irony.

In the garden square where terrorists chose to ignite a bomb on a bus full of ordinary people is a statue of Gandhi.

It overlooks the wreckage of the attack and it was hard not to wonder what a man whose name is synonymous with change through peaceful protest would have thought of the events of 7 July 2005 and all that led up to them.

[[Brendan]]

something very symbolic that i picked up from part of an account:





There was a terrible sense of shock among members of the public.

Police I talked to were more phlegmatic. It was always a case of not if but when London would be hit, one officer told me.

Amid all the chaos of today's atrocities there was one particularly potent irony.

In the garden square where terrorists chose to ignite a bomb on a bus full of ordinary people is a statue of Gandhi.

It overlooks the wreckage of the attack and it was hard not to wonder what a man whose name is synonymous with change through peaceful protest would have thought of the events of 7 July 2005 and all that led up to them.That is really sumbolic PeeDster I wonder what Ghandi would think of the world and everything that has happened of late (the last 5 years) if he were still alive today.

[twe]

i just don't understand how people can be so careless. how people can just take away others lives like this. my thoughts are with the friends and families of the victims.

[Alex Djaferis]

']That is really sumbolic PeeDster I wonder what Ghandi would think of the world and everything that has happened of late (the last 5 years) if he were still alive today.

im just a firm believer of symbols and clues in every day life that direct/show us what is happening....so for me, this is pretty freaky.

[left_coast_envy]

thank god i didnt have school today. my train goes through kings cross station every morning at around 9.

holy shit.

[Pat Marquez]

:headshake the world sucks, i fucking hate this shit. im really sorry.

[xglassjawx]

That terrorism shit is just fucked up, i had to take the train to college and back between the hours of like 8 and 10 today as i only had to go in to get get a loada work signed off, and thank god my train doesn't go through kings cross, terrorism is fucking stupid, and the stupidest thing is that it's all about religion, and doesnt religion teach you all to love eachother!?!? That's just why religion is fucking stupid, it's the cause for all wars or if not most war around the world, if there was no religion, there'd be no wars.

[SkaBum14]

just why religion is fucking stupid, it's the cause for all wars or if not most war around the world, if there was no religion, there'd be no wars.

:headshake

[Pat Marquez]

:headshake
I second that :headshake.

[SkaBum14]

I second that :headshake.

"How do functionally retarded people learn to get on the internet?"

- my roommate

[theESCO]

This is really fucking weird. I just watched the movie Dirty War last night before I went to bed. And now I wake up to this.

Here's the plot summary:

After years of meticulous planning, a terrorist operation is reaching its final stages. The authorities have received no intelligence; they are in a race against time but don't yet know it. As the operation unfolds, we see the working lives of men and women directly affected by terrorism. Among them: a firemen worried about the increasingly dangerous conditions he and his men are expected to work under; the head of the anti-terrorist branch whose responsibility it is to protect London and a female Muslim detective brought into Scotland Yard to investigate another suspected terrorist cell. But it is too late to stop the attack. Outside Liverpool Street station suicide bombers detonate a large bomb, killing scores of commuters and sending a radioactive plume high into the morning sky. For the police, a desperate struggle to find and stop secondary attacks begins. For the fire service, the difficult and dangerous task of carrying out search and rescue in a heavily contaminated area. And for emergency service controllers, a mammoth operation to contain and decontaminate thousands of terrified people caught up in the aftermath of the explosion. Based on extensive research, DIRTY WAR asks whether as a nation we are prepared to face such an attack.


Just...weird.

[Tristan Needler]

are they sure its terrorists?

[Scott Weber]

are they sure its terrorists?
........ yes.

[aminorthreat55]

That's just why religion is fucking stupid, it's the cause for all wars or if not most war around the world, if there was no religion, there'd be no wars.
That's where you're mistaken genius. There is NOTHING wrong with religion. It's organized religion that causes problems. When you try and take millions and millions of people who don't believe the same thing and govern them with a certain set of religious-based laws that they probably don't all agree with 100%, there's your problem.






Ignorant motherfucker.

[Tristan Needler]

........ yes.
i just heard a guy from london on the news say it was too soon to jump to conclusions.
it seems like all the americans are totally convinced it is, but the people there aren't sure.

That's where you're mistaken genius. There is NOTHING wrong with religion. It's organized religion that causes problems. When you try and take millions and millions of people who don't believe the same thing and govern them with a certain set of religious-based laws that they probably don't all agree with 100%, there's your problem.






Ignorant motherfucker.
basically i say faith is good if you belive in that stuff, i dont personally, but (organized) religion is bullshit.

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wait what the fuck..this happend this morning? christ i do live under a rock. ill turn on CNN right now

[aminorthreat55]

Good thing my best friend in England is over here in America for the summer. And that my sister's boyfriend just came back from London a couple of days ago.

[Scott Weber]

i just heard a guy from london on the news say it was too soon to jump to conclusions.
it seems like all the americans are totally convinced it is, but the people there aren't sure.

I consider any organized attack on a single city involving the murders of innocent people an act of terrorism. Plus, Al-Queda Europe has already claimed responsibility for the attacks.

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well i don't mean to downplay this at all, but there are only 33 dead. it doesnt seem as intense as the schoolkillings in Russia or the train bombing in Madrid


you guys know that now that the "terror alert level" is orange..it's never going down

[Tristan Needler]

I consider any organized attack on a single city involving the murders innocent people an act of terrorism. Plus, there's Al-Queda Europe has already claimed responsibility for the attacks.
yeah, i guess they are what i meant.
where did you see that? on cnn it said no one claimed anything. not that i consedier them the be-all end-all of resources but its just what i saw.

and now my sister considers it more important to watch some fucking reality show on vh1 than this.

[Scott Weber]

don't you all think that this probably wouldnt have happened in we hadnt invaded iraq? i mean yes there was 9/11 but...
Um. I'm pretty sure the terrorists have their own agenda, and this attack would have happened regardless. These events have been planned for a long time.

[aminorthreat55]

and now my sister considers it more important to watch some fucking reality show on vh1 than this.
Ignorance is bliss.

[Scott Weber]

yeah, i guess they are what i meant.
where did you see that? on cnn it said no one claimed anything. not that i consedier them the be-all end-all of resources but its just what i saw.

and now my sister considers it more important to watch some fucking reality show on vh1 than this.
I saw it on virtually every news channel I was skimming through about 2 hours ago, actually - on MSNBC, Local news, and Fox News.

[Tristan Needler]

Ignorance is bliss.
yeha, but its still ignorance either way.

I saw it on virtually every news channel I was skimming through about 2 hours ago, actually - on MSNBC, Local news, and Fox News.
oh alright

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Um. I'm pretty sure the terrorists have their own agenda, and this attack would have happened regardless. These events have been planned for a long time.

\well suicide bomb attacks in iraq were definitely less frequent before we went there

[aminorthreat55]

yeha, but its still ignorance either way.
It's the American way of life. And just like Dom said, no one really cares until it affects them personally.

[Scott Weber]

\well suicide bomb attacks in iraq were definitely less frequent before we went there
yeah - in IRAQ.

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yeah - in IRAQ.

yeha but im showing that to say our invasion sparked this rise in terrorism no?

[Tristan Needler]

It's the American way of life. And just like Dom said, no one really cares until it affects them personally.
my sister's canadian like me, she should know better.

and yeah, thats true but it shouldn't be.

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It's the American way of life. And just like Dom said, no one really cares until it affects them personally.


its not just america. its human nature

[Tristan Needler]

its not just america. its human nature
i tihnk only the ignorance part was about the states, dom's part was no one, like you said.

[Scott Weber]

yeha but im showing that to say our invasion sparked this rise in terrorism no?
I don't know about that. I'm honestly so sick of everybody blaming 100% of the world's problems on ONE man and one man alone. Bush is a bad president, he's made some bad mistakes, but blaming everything on him is ridiculous and overblown. people turn blind eyes to the rest of the world so that they can make the bumbling Bush as a scape goat. Does it provide people with some sort of security to believe that everything is one man's fault? I don't claim to know everything that goes on in the world, but I'm not ignorant enough to believe that everything bad happens because of Bush, or something Bush did. Look outside the box and what Jon Stewart feeds you.

[aminorthreat55]

its not just america. its human nature
Very true, but America is particularly bad at it compared to those of other countries. I have many friends in other countries, England, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, and between them and their friends, it is far less common for this mindset to be prevalent amongst their fellow countrymen. You can talk to almost all of them and they can tell you all about all sorts of different things that you wouldn't believe anyone would want to know, but it just goes to show how they actually care about their awareness of things going on in the world.

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I don't know about that. I'm honestly so sick of everybody blaming 100% of the world's problems on ONE man and one man alone. Bush is a bad president, he's made some bad mistakes, but blaming everything on him is ridiculous and overblown. people turn blind eyes to the rest of the world so that they can make the bumbling Bush as a scape goat. Does it provide people with some sort of security to believe that everything is one man's fault? I don't claim to know everything that goes on in the world, but I'm not ignorant enough to believe that everything bad happens because of Bush, or something Bush did. Look outside the box and what Jon Stewart feeds you.

its not him. its us as a nation. and yeah the attack is caused by other things too. its not like "Nush caused this" but i mean, im sure part of the terrorist's thought is based on america's involvement in the middle east. hell, maybe it started with Clinton or way back to Reagan

[Tristan Needler]

I don't know about that. I'm honestly so sick of everybody blaming 100% of the world's problems on ONE man and one man alone. Bush is a bad president, he's made some bad mistakes, but blaming everything on him is ridiculous and overblown. people turn blind eyes to the rest of the world so that they can make the bumbling Bush as a scape goat. Does it provide people with some sort of security to believe that everything is one man's fault? I don't claim to know everything that goes on in the world, but I'm not ignorant enough to believe that everything bad happens because of Bush, or something Bush did. Look outside the box and what Jon Stewart feeds you.
it does.
you ahve to admit a lot of the stuff "he" has done has been a bad influence though, just not quite to the degree everyone says.

[The_Crowing]

well i don't mean to downplay this at all, but there are only 33 dead. it doesnt seem as intense as the schoolkillings in Russia or the train bombing in Madrid


you guys know that now that the "terror alert level" is orange..it's never going down

Dude, I dont know if you know this, but the London Underground is one of the oldest and the largest forms of transportation in the world. Millions of people use the trains as transport every day. An attack on this is major. Plus, this is the biggest attack on London since World War II.

[aminorthreat55]

I don't know about that. I'm honestly so sick of everybody blaming 100% of the world's problems on ONE man and one man alone. Bush is a bad president, he's made some bad mistakes, but blaming everything on him is ridiculous and overblown. people turn blind eyes to the rest of the world so that they can make the bumbling Bush as a scape goat. Does it provide people with some sort of security to believe that everything is one man's fault? I don't claim to know everything that goes on in the world, but I'm not ignorant enough to believe that everything bad happens because of Bush, or something Bush did. Look outside the box and what Jon Stewart feeds you.
You blaming Jon Stewart for our ignorance is just as bad as us blaming Bush for every little bomb that goes off or bullet that goes astray. While neither is always to blame, they both play a small part in it.

[Scott Weber]

it does.
you ahve to admit a lot of the stuff "he" has done has been a bad influence though, just not quite to the degree everyone says.
Oh no doubt. The guy has made mistakes, mistakes that I believe he's working hard to fix...but he still has really stirred up some bad stuff. But he didn't invent terrorism, which is how people make it sound. Terrorist's hatred for other nations has existed for years and years.

[aminorthreat55]

Oh no doubt. The guy has made mistakes, mistakes that I believe he's working hard to fix...but he still has really stirred up some bad stuff. But he didn't invent terrorism, which is how people make it sound. Terrorist's hatred for other nations has existed for years and years.
If you had to blame one person for the cause of modern terrorism as is defined by the current administration, I'd have to go with their favorite friend, good old President Reagan. But hey that's just me.