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stop snitchin
01/07/09, 05:32 PM
Apparently Mickey Rourke and Sam Rockwell are going to be playing the villians in Iron Man 2. Rourke would be playing the Crimson Dynamo. I'm not sure as to the validity of the article, but if it's true, then :clap: :woot:

stop snitchin
01/07/09, 05:33 PM
http://www.joblo.com/mickey-in-iron-man-2

WakingTheMisery
01/07/09, 05:41 PM
Damn, I was expecting it to say Rockwell was the Mandarin. Too bad.

mht
01/07/09, 06:42 PM
I wonder which CD model will they use

SkyHeldUpByStar
01/07/09, 07:41 PM
Oh wow, that's awesome. It's nice to see Rourke get the comeback he's been looking for, especially after his performance in The Wrestler. I wonder who Rockwell will play since apparently The Mandarin won't be showing up till the third film. I saw some people mention Hawkeye on there...that would be kind of neat.

stop snitchin
01/07/09, 08:26 PM
Justin Hammer I think.

jusscali
01/07/09, 08:27 PM
What villain? I have no familiarity with any of the Iron Man characters. I love Rouke though

jusscali
01/07/09, 08:29 PM
The site leaked came up as a virus on my comp...wtfff

stop snitchin
01/07/09, 08:54 PM
The site leaked came up as a virus on my comp...wtfff

Same thing just happened to me. Weird, I've been visiting that site for a couple years.

lolliot
01/07/09, 11:54 PM
I'm really looking forward to this one. Is Samuel L. Jackson playing any part of this one as Nick Fury, or are they saving him for an Avengers movie?

BauerFTW
01/08/09, 06:04 AM
Are they still going with the tony becomes an alcoholic storyline?

WakingTheMisery
01/08/09, 09:13 AM
Apparently there is a different article which says Rourke will be playing Blacklash.

jusscali
01/08/09, 09:14 AM
Apparently there is a different article which says Rourke will be playing Backlash.

IGN? I just read that. The connection between Justin Hammer and Backlash would make a ton of sense as far as the narrative is concerned. Regardless, I'm not sure how Russian Mickey can be haha

WakingTheMisery
01/08/09, 09:18 AM
Its from the Hollywood Reporter. Either way, I am excited.

Adeniz19
01/08/09, 09:38 AM
i really don't know much about iron man, but are all of his enemies essentially evil versions of himself? it seems like they all have their own version of his "iron suit".

Recovery Room
01/14/09, 08:06 AM
Sam Jackson might not be back as Nick Fury.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/01/nick-fury-no-mo.html

BauerFTW
01/14/09, 08:36 AM
Sam Jackson might not be back as Nick Fury.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/01/nick-fury-no-mo.html

THAT IS IT I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERF***ING RUMORS ON THIS MOTHERF***ING WEBSITE!

dissident
01/14/09, 12:50 PM
Hilarious.

fadedmemories
03/12/09, 10:59 PM
ScarJo and Mickey Rourke Help Raise Iron Curtain (http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.eonline.com/103998-)

dissident
03/12/09, 11:01 PM
after hearing terrence howard is essentially a chris brown sr. good riddance to that punk bitch.

Chris Fallon
03/12/09, 11:11 PM
Not too stoked on Scarlett, but oh well, I can't wait to see Rourke and Rockwell up there.

MADSTA
03/12/09, 11:19 PM
I still haven't seen the first.

Edit: Blech, I hate Scarlett Johansson.

fadedmemories
03/12/09, 11:29 PM
I'm not too stoked about Scarlett Johansson as well, but really looking forward to Rourke.

airik625
03/12/09, 11:42 PM
Hopefully Scarlett Johansson doesn't disappoint me in this.

WakingTheMisery
03/13/09, 12:03 AM
The girl who was supposed to be playing ScarJo's character was much better looking IMO.

drudo182
03/13/09, 12:04 AM
I'm glad Rourke officially signed on. That is exciting.

airik625
05/03/09, 10:11 PM
First pic released:

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/firstironman2photo.jpg

Read the full story here (http://www.joblo.com/iron-man-2-pic).

DejaNew
05/03/09, 10:23 PM
That scene looks expensive.

Jake Denning
05/03/09, 11:12 PM
I'm actually pretty stoked.

airik625
05/07/09, 02:33 PM
http://joblo.com/newsimages1/rdj-im2.jpg

http://joblo.com/rdj-in-iron-man-suit

WakingTheMisery
05/07/09, 02:55 PM
I wonder how they are going to play the story with everyone already knowing he is Iron Man.

Smash Adams
06/09/09, 05:17 PM
http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2009/06/09/rourkex.jpg
badass
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2009-06-09-ironman2-rourke_N.htm

drudo182
06/09/09, 05:47 PM
Yeah, that looks sweet. Can't wait.

WakingTheMisery
06/09/09, 05:51 PM
What the hell is that?

stop snitchin
06/09/09, 06:48 PM
awesome

batmannj
06/09/09, 06:51 PM
can't wait.

WakingTheMisery
06/09/09, 06:52 PM
I think I would have preferred Crimson Dynamo.

stop snitchin
06/09/09, 06:56 PM
I think I would have preferred Crimson Dynamo.

I've read in a couple articles that Rourke is playing a kind of CD/Whiplash hybrid, whatever that means.

edit: i guess it is just Whiplash

WakingTheMisery
06/09/09, 07:01 PM
I've read in a couple articles that Rourke is playing a kind of CD/Whiplash hybrid, whatever that means.

Wowwwwww. That is just ridiculous. I guess it is okay though considering the number of people who have taken on the role of CD.

stop snitchin
06/09/09, 08:15 PM
I'm giving Favreau the benefit of the doubt with the way the character is handled. He can do no wrong in my eyes and has yet to let me down with anything he's been involved with (Four Christmases notwithstanding).

AshesAshes
06/10/09, 02:52 PM
Rourke should be awesome

Ailite
06/10/09, 02:54 PM
That picture gets me really excited

Protested Hero
06/10/09, 02:54 PM
Mickey (Mouse) Rourke looks sick.

airik625
08/09/09, 09:56 AM
Iron Man 2 footage (http://www.joblo.com/iron-man-2-footage)

WakingTheMisery
08/09/09, 10:18 AM
Holy fuck. War Machine looks bad ass.

sweetforever
08/09/09, 11:34 AM
Footage looked good.

billyboatkid
08/09/09, 11:40 AM
Damn, I wish I could watch that at work.

So stoked for this. I wanna see War Machine. ARRRR

Galedeep
08/09/09, 11:44 AM
Holy shit, that looks rad. Especially War Machine.

What version of Whiplash are they using? The only one I know about is a lady? Is there an Ultimate version of Whiplash that is a dude that I missed (a la black Nick Fury)?

WakingTheMisery
08/09/09, 11:48 AM
Holy shit, that looks rad. Especially War Machine.

What version of Whiplash are they using? The only one I know about is a lady? Is there an Ultimate version of Whiplash that is a dude that I missed (a la black Nick Fury)?

For some reason they want to combine Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo. Not sure how that is going to work.

Montauk1222
08/09/09, 11:53 AM
I actually just saw the first one earlier this week and it was awesome, so I am now looking forward to this big time.

hells army
08/09/09, 11:54 AM
Iron Man is the shit.

Why Bother?
08/11/09, 12:07 PM
The movie's looking out to be amazing, War Machine looks badass, but does anyone think this is being way too stuffed with characters and plotlines a la Spider-Man 3?

I mean:

- Whiplash/Crymson Dynamo
- Justin Hammer
- Black Widow
- Nick Fury
- Agent Coulson
- War Machine
- Bathany Cabe
- The government wanting Tony's armor
- Apparently Tony's father will make an appearance, so maybe flashbacks?
- Tony's alcoholism problem

I hope they can pull it off and make it awesome because the first one was fantastic. Also, Sam L. Jackson did not agree to reprise Nick Fury until they assured he would play him in nine movies. What the fuck?

pleasedontask
08/11/09, 12:10 PM
link doesnt work anymore, anywhere else I can watch it?

Why Bother?
08/11/09, 12:13 PM
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php

WakingTheMisery
08/11/09, 12:19 PM
link doesnt work anymore, anywhere else I can watch it?

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2009/08/leaked-iron-man-2-footage-from-comic-con

billyboatkid
08/15/09, 09:47 AM
Holy War Machine, Bat Man.

Looks sweet.

deadkidsean
11/30/09, 03:12 PM
Fuck yeah. Wow, can't wait.


http://i48.tinypic.com/250sgb5.jpg

Chris Fallon
11/30/09, 03:39 PM
Mmm mmm mmm, hell yes

From: Skulls
11/30/09, 04:51 PM
Fuck yes!

WhiteLies.
11/30/09, 05:57 PM
May 7? So far away. :-(

airik625
12/01/09, 12:10 PM
Badass poster!

flask
12/01/09, 08:34 PM
i loooooved iron man. probably more than the dark knight.
i know. blasphemy right?

Ailite
12/04/09, 08:29 PM
Alright, I want a trailer.

Prestonxsmith
12/04/09, 08:35 PM
Alright, I want a trailer.

Until the 18th, my friend, until the 18th.

Thomas Balkcom
12/04/09, 08:38 PM
Alright, I want a trailer.

yeah didn't the first film's trailer come out the September before it?

Until the 18th, my friend, until the 18th.


hell yes!

Ailite
12/04/09, 09:18 PM
yeah didn't the first film's trailer come out the September before it?




hell yes!
Yep. This one is just taking forever.

WakingTheMisery
12/04/09, 10:00 PM
I hope this entire movie is improvised like the last.

anthonydarko
12/04/09, 10:57 PM
I'm just stoked to see War Machine in this one.

bouttogetfancy
12/16/09, 04:21 PM
new trailer:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/

Thomas Balkcom
12/16/09, 04:21 PM
trailer is up!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/

bouttogetfancy
12/16/09, 04:21 PM
trailer is up!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/
hah i beat you

Thomas Balkcom
12/16/09, 04:21 PM
haha. beaten!

Thomas Balkcom
12/16/09, 04:22 PM
hah i beat you

too weird

Prestonxsmith
12/16/09, 04:26 PM
Bad. Fucking. Ass.

batmannj
12/16/09, 04:28 PM
downloading trailer now

Thomas Balkcom
12/16/09, 04:29 PM
dear God @ how badass that is. Can't wait!

batmannj
12/16/09, 04:32 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhhh I'm getting the 720p version so it is taking a moment or two.

drudo182
12/16/09, 04:36 PM
Hahaha. This looks crazy as hell.

Rourke looks amazing!

Thomas Balkcom
12/16/09, 04:58 PM
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/im2capbig-31.png


more screenshots here: http://www.joblo.com/iron-man-2-trailer

From: Skulls
12/16/09, 05:01 PM
Damn this looks amazing.

batmannj
12/16/09, 05:03 PM
Definitely looks good, trailer didn't seem to give much of anything away other than basic plot points thank God. Can't wait for this.

dundermifflin
12/16/09, 06:06 PM
and i.
jizzed.
in.
my.
pants.

WarpSpeedChewy
12/16/09, 06:36 PM
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/im2capbig-11.png
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/im2capbig-30.png
Hell fucking yah!

That shot of iron man jumping out of the plane was awesome.

Greg.Kushlan
12/16/09, 07:28 PM
That last scene of Iron Man and War Machine fighting looks retarded. The trailer looked pretty meh for the most part though.

narcoleptic953
12/16/09, 07:54 PM
Looks awesome. First one is my favorite comic book movie ever.

Miss Heartcore
12/16/09, 07:59 PM
Fuck yes. I just asked about this trailer this morning and it deeeeeeeeeelivered.

colorlesscliche
12/16/09, 08:05 PM
Potts and Widow are lookin' good.

Vincewithouthee
12/16/09, 08:14 PM
Cannot wait for this. Especially War Machine.

gilatron5000
12/16/09, 08:30 PM
i loooooved iron man. probably more than the dark knight.
i know. blasphemy right?
Nah. Iron Man was definitely my favorite of the two.

sweetforever
12/16/09, 09:24 PM
Ending scene, with Iron Man and War Machine looks badass

fake empire
12/16/09, 09:43 PM
really awesome trailer

Chris Fallon
12/17/09, 12:58 AM
War Machine is obviously gonna fucking rule, but man, Whiplash looks sick too. I like how they are going to explore the celebrity part of Stark's identity, but also how it's not as corny as what they always did with Spider Man (plus, everyone knows who is under the suit). They are also introducing several aspects for another movie (most likely) and the Avengers film. I think "overstuffing" it works in this case because the film is setting up more that will be used later on. Spider Man 3 was just adding characters in for the sake of the movie -- that movie, for all they knew at the time, was the last hurrah. The negative reception helped push the idea for another one (or two) films to follow and finish the series off right.

The trailer intentionally looks tight as hell, and I'm always skeptical when it comes to sequels... but fuckin a, this is easily the film I am anticipating for 2010. Makes me love Tony Stark even more.

Jason Tate
12/17/09, 10:21 AM
If they keep it concise - this will rule.

Wake Up
12/18/09, 04:07 AM
I really think this is going to be the next Transformers 2.

Why Bother?
12/18/09, 06:30 AM
War Machine is obviously gonna fucking rule, but man, Whiplash looks sick too. I like how they are going to explore the celebrity part of Stark's identity, but also how it's not as corny as what they always did with Spider Man (plus, everyone knows who is under the suit). They are also introducing several aspects for another movie (most likely) and the Avengers film. I think "overstuffing" it works in this case because the film is setting up more that will be used later on. Spider Man 3 was just adding characters in for the sake of the movie -- that movie, for all they knew at the time, was the last hurrah. The negative reception helped push the idea for another one (or two) films to follow and finish the series off right.

The trailer intentionally looks tight as hell, and I'm always skeptical when it comes to sequels... but fuckin a, this is easily the film I am anticipating for 2010. Makes me love Tony Stark even more.

The movie looks extremely overstuffed but I like your theory for why it's acceptable here. It just looks too much like Spider-Man 3 with the "Iron Man" girls and all that. Plus they are introducing a hell load of characters and plotlines, I just hope they know how to handle all of that and keep it as solid and well written as the first film, not just settle for the main character's fame and make it all a joke.

Vincewithouthee
12/18/09, 11:48 AM
War Machine is obviously gonna fucking rule, but man, Whiplash looks sick too. I like how they are going to explore the celebrity part of Stark's identity, but also how it's not as corny as what they always did with Spider Man (plus, everyone knows who is under the suit). They are also introducing several aspects for another movie (most likely) and the Avengers film. I think "overstuffing" it works in this case because the film is setting up more that will be used later on. Spider Man 3 was just adding characters in for the sake of the movie -- that movie, for all they knew at the time, was the last hurrah. The negative reception helped push the idea for another one (or two) films to follow and finish the series off right.

The trailer intentionally looks tight as hell, and I'm always skeptical when it comes to sequels... but fuckin a, this is easily the film I am anticipating for 2010. Makes me love Tony Stark even more.
I pretty much totally agree with this post. People need to realize a lot of this movie is a buildup as well. I don't think the movie is overstuffed either, I think it's all gonna work. I have faith.
I really think this is going to be the next Transformers 2.

Noooooo way. This should rule. I still hope they explore Tony's past and his alcoholism, which is highly possible since his dad is in this movie and I know he plays a big part in that. "Whiplash" is also badass, even though I was sketchy on him at first.

dissident
12/18/09, 12:51 PM
I really think this is going to be the next Transformers 2.

favreau is much better than that.

Wake Up
12/18/09, 12:55 PM
favreau is much better than that.

I really enjoyed the Iron Man, I just hope it isn't total shit.

suplina
12/18/09, 01:02 PM
I just watched the trailer the other day, it looks kickass.

Greg.Kushlan
12/18/09, 01:09 PM
I really think this is going to be the next Transformers 2.

I didn't see Transformers 2(and never will), but a lot of the new trailer looked kinda stupid. Especially the part where Iron man and War Machine were shooting the other suits at the end, and Iron Man punches one.

I was hoping that they would do Demon In A Bottle like they had been hinting at early on during production.

Chris Fallon
12/18/09, 01:42 PM
The movie looks extremely overstuffed but I like your theory for why it's acceptable here. It just looks too much like Spider-Man 3 with the "Iron Man" girls and all that. Plus they are introducing a hell load of characters and plotlines, I just hope they know how to handle all of that and keep it as solid and well written as the first film, not just settle for the main character's fame and make it all a joke.
I'd feel much differently if we weren't getting an Avengers film in a few more years -- but all these films are doing is developing the birth and transformation of a heroes life to build up for what the Avengers will be about. I trust Favreau, because after reading all the interviews he did for the first movie, I feel like he knows what needs to be done and what doesn't. Plus, I don't think some of these characters are going to get as much screen time as others -- I get the feeling Scarlett Johansen won't be as much as a factor as to say, Mickey Rourke.

WakingTheMisery
12/18/09, 01:56 PM
After learning that most of the first movie was adlibbed, I'm a little skeptical about this one. I liked the first, but with the new addition of these characters I hope they actually have a solid script. I have faith in every actor in the film, I just want more from the dialog. It seemed like the weakest part of the last one.

Why Bother?
12/18/09, 01:58 PM
I'd feel much differently if we weren't getting an Avengers film in a few more years -- but all these films are doing is developing the birth and transformation of a heroes life to build up for what the Avengers will be about. I trust Favreau, because after reading all the interviews he did for the first movie, I feel like he knows what needs to be done and what doesn't. Plus, I don't think some of these characters are going to get as much screen time as others -- I get the feeling Scarlett Johansen won't be as much as a factor as to say, Mickey Rourke.

Yeah, pretty sure there will be a lot of new plotlines started but not finished in the film that will be developed in 3 or in the Avengers film. I really wanna know how much weight Justin Hammer has in the movie, Sam Rockwell's shot in the trailer looks so badass.

PaulsRightNut
12/18/09, 02:24 PM
Surprisingly I enjoyed the trailer.

Gaugzilla
12/18/09, 02:59 PM
I really think this is going to be the next Transformers 2.

No. No. No. Not at all. First, it has a terrific cast and a director that actually cares about competent storytelling, framing and structure. Second, it already has a brilliant first film, under it's belt, Transformers didn't even have that. Third, if this was "Transformers 2" we'd have Don Cheadle yelling out "Damn!" and "That's whack" for 90 minutes while Robert Downey Jr. rattles off terrible lines and the camera zooms in on cleavage. Even if it sucks cow gas out of a vacuum, it will not be the next "Transformers 2."


After learning that most of the first movie was adlibbed, I'm a little skeptical about this one. I liked the first, but with the new addition of these characters I hope they actually have a solid script. I have faith in every actor in the film, I just want more from the dialog. It seemed like the weakest part of the last one.

The dialogue was pretty fresh and loose for a comic book film, which I think helped move away from the cheesiness of say, a "Spider-Man." The weakest part was the last third of the movie where the big reveal wasn't that shocking and Gwenyth Paltrow screamed for 10 minutes.

WakingTheMisery
12/18/09, 03:04 PM
The dialogue was pretty fresh and loose for a comic book film, which I think helped move away from the cheesiness of say, a "Spider-Man." The weakest part was the last third of the movie where the big reveal wasn't that shocking and Gwenyth Paltrow screamed for 10 minutes.

It was fresh and loose for a reason:

“They had no script, man!” Bridges exclaims. “They had an outline. We would show up for big scenes every day and we wouldn’t know what we were going to say. We would have to go into our trailer and work on this scene and call up writers on the phone, ‘You got any ideas?’ Meanwhile the crew is tapping their foot on the stage waiting for us to come on.”

Bridges, director Jon Favreau and Robert Downey Jr. would literally act out sequences during primitive rehearsals, Downey taking on Bridges’s role and vice versa, to find and essentially improvise their way to full scenes, the actor recounts. Bridges says that the entire production was probably saved by the improv prowess of the film’s director and star.
“You’ve got the suits from Marvel in the trailer with us saying, ‘No, you wouldn’t say that,’” Bridges remembers. “You would think with a $200 million movie you’d have the sh-t together, but it was just the opposite. And the reason for that is because they get ahead of themselves. They have a release date before the script, ‘Oh, we’ll have the script before that time,’ and they don’t have their sh-t together.’”

So I said, ‘Oh, what we’re doing here, we’re making a $200 million student film. We’re all just f-ckin’ around! We’re playin’. Oh, great!’ That took all the pressure off. ‘Oh, just jam, man, just play.’ And it turned out great!”

Gaugzilla
12/18/09, 03:11 PM
It was fresh and loose for a reason:
I understood that. And that's fine. In this case, it worked all for the better.

WakingTheMisery
12/18/09, 03:16 PM
I understood that. And that's fine. In this case, it worked all for the better.

I suppose. I just don't feel like that system works for everyone. I love Mickey Rourke and Scarlett but I just can't see this being something they could pull off as well as Bridges or Downey. Rockwell and Cheadle I'm not worried about at all.

Chris Fallon
12/18/09, 03:31 PM
Yeah, pretty sure there will be a lot of new plotlines started but not finished in the film that will be developed in 3 or in the Avengers film. I really wanna know how much weight Justin Hammer has in the movie, Sam Rockwell's shot in the trailer looks so badass.
I have a suspicion he'll be kept on the downlow, maybe give him more to do in a later film? I love Sam Rockwell, I love Justin Hammer and the potential they have to riff RDJ and Sam off one another ought to be spectacular. I'm quite interested to see how they manage to keep all the characters in check and refrain from throwing a bunch of recognizable faces in it because it's the big summer movie of the year. I have faith though, I really do.

WakingTheMisery
12/18/09, 03:37 PM
I have a feeling Hammer will be involved with whom ever Warmachine and Irom Man are fighting at the end of the trailer.

I have a feeling this movie will be broken down a little bit better than SM3 was. Hard to say though.

Gaugzilla
12/18/09, 04:14 PM
I suppose. I just don't feel like that system works for everyone. I love Mickey Rourke and Scarlett but I just can't see this being something they could pull off as well as Bridges or Downey. Rockwell and Cheadle I'm not worried about at all.
Right. And I don't think it would work for them. The first one was credited to two teams of writers, of which I think both were just drafts that was what they based the framework of the story on. This one was written by one writer who was commissioned for it, so I think there will be an actual script for actors like Johanssen and Rourke, while RDJ will probably still be going off the cuff.

Why Bother?
12/18/09, 06:52 PM
I have a suspicion he'll be kept on the downlow, maybe give him more to do in a later film? I love Sam Rockwell, I love Justin Hammer and the potential they have to riff RDJ and Sam off one another ought to be spectacular. I'm quite interested to see how they manage to keep all the characters in check and refrain from throwing a bunch of recognizable faces in it because it's the big summer movie of the year. I have faith though, I really do.

Keeping the faith as well. If you look back, the trailer for the first film was just as goofy and silly as this one, and the movie was so well balanced. Let's hope this one is as well.

Drew Beringer
12/18/09, 07:40 PM
wow that trailer was sick

Thomas Balkcom
03/07/10, 10:02 PM
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/

new trailer.

WakingTheMisery
03/07/10, 10:07 PM
Nothing really new there.

Gaugzilla
03/07/10, 10:36 PM
Nothing really new there.
Wha? You miss the part where Sam Rockwell had lines and was revealed as the person manufacturing the anti-Iron Man machines?

WakingTheMisery
03/07/10, 10:50 PM
Wha? You miss the part where Sam Rockwell had lines and was revealed as the person manufacturing the anti-Iron Man machines?

That was in the Comicon trailer.

WakingTheMisery
03/07/10, 10:52 PM
And I watched the wrong one.

jwicklun
03/07/10, 11:09 PM
awesome. this will be a good summer.

WakingTheMisery
03/07/10, 11:15 PM
So I am assuming Hammer makes a Crimson Dynamo armor.

Vincewithouthee
03/08/10, 12:57 PM
Totally forgot Rockwell was in this. That new trailer has given me higher hopes.

Miss Heartcore
03/08/10, 12:58 PM
Trailer makes it look even more promising. God I hope they don't fuck this up.

airik625
03/08/10, 03:08 PM
Has so much potential. Can not wait.

sweetforever
03/08/10, 03:47 PM
New trailer looks sweet

Guern1ca
04/22/10, 12:25 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/8g77.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/4g2bgx.jpg

Brand new posters. So close I can almost taste it!

Thomas Balkcom
04/22/10, 12:26 PM
pumped. gotta get through 2 weeks of shitty movies.

Miss Heartcore
04/22/10, 12:38 PM
Can't waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait

:excited:

WakingTheMisery
04/22/10, 12:44 PM
I really hope they have a Thor cameo like speculated. From what I am hearing, that movie is going to be badass.

Guern1ca
04/22/10, 01:21 PM
I want that IMAX poster in a big, bad way.


Can't waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait

:excited:

Same. Really is going to be a great birthday gift to myself that Friday evening that I get to sit and watch it.

Thomas Balkcom
04/22/10, 01:22 PM
I want that IMAX poster in a big, bad way.

shityeah. That thing is sweet.

Xx sorrow xX
04/22/10, 06:02 PM
excited for this movie

Jaimehere
04/22/10, 06:03 PM
getting closer and closer... i hope War Machine fucks everything up(in a good way) xD

Recovery Room
04/26/10, 01:15 PM
Welp, good chance this sucks now. Not really a spoiler as it doesn't give anything away plot wise, but I'll still cover it just in case.

Then there's the cameo by the late DJ AM, Adam Goldstein. He passed away just weeks after shooting the film, but Favreau decided to keep his appearance intact as a tribute of sorts. But it sure sounds silly: With DJ AM at the turntables, Tony Stark (Robert Downey, Jr.) dances to Tupac's "California Love"...in full Iron Man costume. Ugh. No thank you.

That is on par with the crap they did in Batman & Robin.

HometownHero
04/26/10, 01:16 PM
Saw a trailer for this for the first time today. Count me in

Jason Tate
04/26/10, 01:17 PM
Welp, good chance this sucks now. Not really a spoiler as it doesn't give anything away plot wise, but I'll still cover it just in case.

Then there's the cameo by the late DJ AM, Adam Goldstein. He passed away just weeks after shooting the film, but Favreau decided to keep his appearance intact as a tribute of sorts. But it sure sounds silly: With DJ AM at the turntables, Tony Stark (Robert Downey, Jr.) dances to Tupac's "California Love"...in full Iron Man costume. Ugh. No thank you.

That is on par with the crap they did in Batman & Robin.
:rotfl:

Wow. Please no.

Recovery Room
04/26/10, 01:19 PM
:rotfl:

Wow. Please no.
I respect the idea of wanting to give him a tribute, but this crap shouldn't have even been written into the movie in the first place. I am beyond baffled that this was done let alone not left on the editing room floor. This is falling into Fantastic Four territory.

Why Bother?
04/26/10, 01:43 PM
Five new clips. (http://scifiwire.com/2010/04/5-sexy-action-packed-snea.php)

God I hope they don't fuck this up a la Spider-Man 3.

Wake Up
04/26/10, 02:04 PM
2010's Transformer's 2

NewMutant
04/26/10, 02:05 PM
2010's Transformer's 2

Let's hope not.

flask
04/26/10, 02:06 PM
Welp, good chance this sucks now. Not really a spoiler as it doesn't give anything away plot wise, but I'll still cover it just in case.

Then there's the cameo by the late DJ AM, Adam Goldstein. He passed away just weeks after shooting the film, but Favreau decided to keep his appearance intact as a tribute of sorts. But it sure sounds silly: With DJ AM at the turntables, Tony Stark (Robert Downey, Jr.) dances to Tupac's "California Love"...in full Iron Man costume. Ugh. No thank you.

That is on par with the crap they did in Batman & Robin.

IRON MAN DANCES?!
WORST MOVIE EVER!!!

NewMutant
04/26/10, 03:31 PM
Welp, good chance this sucks now. Not really a spoiler as it doesn't give anything away plot wise, but I'll still cover it just in case.

Then there's the cameo by the late DJ AM, Adam Goldstein. He passed away just weeks after shooting the film, but Favreau decided to keep his appearance intact as a tribute of sorts. But it sure sounds silly: With DJ AM at the turntables, Tony Stark (Robert Downey, Jr.) dances to Tupac's "California Love"...in full Iron Man costume. Ugh. No thank you.

That is on par with the crap they did in Batman & Robin.

I mean no disrespect to Adam Goldstein, but that scene sounds extremely ridiculous. Do you have a link to this story?

poppa Q
04/26/10, 03:32 PM
Buncha overreactions 'round these parts.

ylliB sivaD
04/26/10, 03:46 PM
Buncha overreactions 'round these parts.
LOL tell me about it.

Guern1ca
04/26/10, 03:58 PM
Buncha overreactions 'round these parts.
What'll probably be 15 seconds of the flick, they are calling the next Batman & Robin. Oy. I mean, sure, it's stupid, but come on.

poppa Q
04/26/10, 04:29 PM
Right. And considering the Iron Man entity and RDJ himself, I'm sure it's actually probably funny and nowhere near Jonny Depp's Mad Hatter dance.

Recovery Room
04/26/10, 04:59 PM
What'll probably be 15 seconds of the flick, they are calling the next Batman & Robin. Oy. I mean, sure, it's stupid, but come on.
I meant that's something you'd find in such a movie. Last I checked the tone of the first film and what they're advertising this one as is nowhere remotely close to camp and cheese. So yes, I think this crap has no business being there. Will Vanilla Ice make a "GO IRON MAN GO!" cameo during this scene as well?

Recovery Room
04/26/10, 05:01 PM
Right. And considering the Iron Man entity and RDJ himself, I'm sure it's actually probably funny and nowhere near Jonny Depp's Mad Hatter dance.
That's not the kind of humor I want from this franchise (stick to RDJ's smugness and sarcasm), this isn't a kids Saturday morning cartoon.

Jason Tate
04/26/10, 05:14 PM
Let's not forget what happened the last time a Marvel movie had a "short" 15 second dance number.

Or does no one else remember: Spider-Man 3?

colorlesscliche
04/26/10, 05:16 PM
Let's not forget what happened the last time a Marvel movie had a "short" 15 second dance number.

Or does no one else remember: Spider-Man 3?

This is what I was thinking. Although it is ridiculous to compare it to Batman, even a 'short' dance number can make the movie take a turn for the worst.

drudo182
04/26/10, 05:22 PM
Sounds a bit cheesy but I'm still hoping it's good.

poppa Q
04/26/10, 05:30 PM
That's not the kind of humor I want from this franchise (stick to RDJ's smugness and sarcasm), this isn't a kids Saturday morning cartoon.

That's kind of my whole point, that if it is meant to be humorous it'll surely be smug and sarcastic. Not that either of us should care, at all, right now. Up In The Air had a gawdawful "dance"/party scene at the hands of "Bust a Move," which is incredibly cliche in and of itself.

Guern1ca
04/26/10, 05:49 PM
That's kind of my whole point, that if it is meant to be humorous it'll surely be smug and sarcastic. Not that either of us should care, at all, right now. Up In The Air had a gawdawful "dance"/party scene at the hands of "Bust a Move," which is incredibly cliche in and of itself.
Yeah, but remember last time a George Clooney movie had a dance scene.

Jason Tate
04/26/10, 05:50 PM
Yeah, but remember last time a George Clooney movie had a dance scene.
No, actually I don't. Care to point out which one did?

TJ Wells
04/27/10, 01:32 PM
WOW:

"Everything fun and terrific about Iron Man, a mere two years ago, has vanished with its sequel. In its place, Iron Man 2 has substituted noise, confusion, multiple villains, irrelevant stunts and misguided story lines."

Why Bother?
04/27/10, 01:34 PM
I wish I hadn't read that, it's exactly what I expect. I still hope to be surprised.

Jason Tate
04/27/10, 01:37 PM
Daily Mirror panned it too:

Given the strength of part one, the sequel is not just a terrific failure but a terrific disappointment.

Jason Tate
04/27/10, 01:38 PM
WOW:

"Everything fun and terrific about Iron Man, a mere two years ago, has vanished with its sequel. In its place, Iron Man 2 has substituted noise, confusion, multiple villains, irrelevant stunts and misguided story lines."
Full review:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/iron-man-2-film-review-1004086551.story

Thomas Balkcom
04/27/10, 01:38 PM
WOW:

"Everything fun and terrific about Iron Man, a mere two years ago, has vanished with its sequel. In its place, Iron Man 2 has substituted noise, confusion, multiple villains, irrelevant stunts and misguided story lines."

who said this?

edit: nevermind

TJ Wells
04/27/10, 01:41 PM
In my opinion, multiple villains is ALWAYS a bad idea. Has it ever actually worked out?

Edit: Nevermind. See: The Dark Knight.

TJ Wells
04/27/10, 01:41 PM
I'm still seeing it at midnight.

Thomas Balkcom
04/27/10, 01:42 PM
I'm still seeing it at midnight.

same.

WakingTheMisery
04/27/10, 01:43 PM
Nine of twelve people like it so far. I don't know why you'd dismiss it off of two reviews.

Jason Tate
04/27/10, 01:46 PM
Nine of twelve people like it so far. I don't know why you'd dismiss it off of two reviews.
Those are people liking it? Most of the "positive" reviews talk about how it's not all that good -- it's just fluff.

"unfortunately, not as good as the first film."

"High expectations from the first movie may leave some wanting,"

"Shame this sequel feels inessential."

"Iron Man 2 might not have the power or tone of the recent Batman film, but that's not what the filmmakers are after"

"But it’s also wildly uneven and unnecessarily convoluted, leaving the viewer unsatisfied and hungry for something more substantial."

Those are all from the "like it" category ...

WakingTheMisery
04/27/10, 01:47 PM
In my opinion, multiple villains is ALWAYS a bad idea. Has it ever actually worked out?

Edit: Nevermind. See: The Dark Knight.

Worked for Batman Returns and Daredevil too.

Jason Tate
04/27/10, 01:49 PM
Worked for Batman Returns and Daredevil too.
Wait ... what? Oh no.

WakingTheMisery
04/27/10, 01:51 PM
Those are people liking it? Most of the "positive" reviews talk about how it's not all that good -- it's just fluff.

"unfortunately, not as good as the first film."

"High expectations from the first movie may leave some wanting,"

"Shame this sequel feels inessential."

"Iron Man 2 might not have the power or tone of the recent Batman film, but that's not what the filmmakers are after"

"But it’s also wildly uneven and unnecessarily convoluted, leaving the viewer unsatisfied and hungry for something more substantial."

Those are all from the "like it" category ...

And it is just as easy to give it a rotten review. :shrug: It's just going to be a summer(ish) blockbuster movie. It'll be better than a Transformers film.

Jason Tate
04/27/10, 01:52 PM
And it is just as easy to give it a rotten review. :shrug: It's just going to be a summer(ish) blockbuster movie. It'll be better than a Transformers film.
That's too bad. Would be worth seeing if it was more than that.

wall e
04/27/10, 01:54 PM
I will love it no matter what, being a Marvel fanboy.

Smash Adams
04/27/10, 01:58 PM
And it is just as easy to give it a rotten review. :shrug: It's just going to be a summer(ish) blockbuster movie. It'll be better than a Transformers film.
Yeah I don't think anything could make me not want to watch it, unless it was like RDJ dies in the first 10 minutes

WakingTheMisery
04/27/10, 02:00 PM
That's too bad. Would be worth seeing if it was more than that.

Would be worth seeing if they didn't combine two villains into one. Also needs more Mandarin.

WarpSpeedChewy
04/27/10, 03:05 PM
Very positive review from Ain't it cool (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44828)

Really looking forward to John Slattery as Howard Stark.

Why Bother?
04/27/10, 03:14 PM
Ain't It Cool are pretty optimistic about anything. I remember reading a review where they explained why the butler scene in Spider-Man 3 was cool.

WarpSpeedChewy
04/27/10, 03:24 PM
Ain't It Cool are pretty optimistic about anything. I remember reading a review where they explained why the butler scene in Spider-Man 3 was cool.
I wouldn't say that. They are pretty level headed most times. This is the site that got JJ Abrams removed from Superman after all.

TJ Wells
04/27/10, 03:28 PM
Haha oh lord. I maintain that, as bad as Batman and Robin and Batman Forever are, at least they're LAUGHABLY bad. They don't have a sense of false superiority and try to pretend like theyre good movies, which is exactly what Batman Returns does and EXACTLY what makes it the worst of all the Batman films.

Jason Tate
04/27/10, 03:30 PM
I wouldn't say that. They are pretty level headed most times. This is the site that got JJ Abrams removed from Superman after all.
Would have loved JJ Abrams to have worked on Superman ... his Star Trek was great, and the last Superman SUKKKKKED.

WarpSpeedChewy
04/27/10, 03:35 PM
Would have loved JJ Abrams to have worked on Superman ... his Star Trek was great, and the last Superman SUKKKKKED.
Now I actually wouldn't be opposed to it. I really like JJ Abrams but apparently the script for it then supremely sucked.

narcoleptic953
04/27/10, 03:48 PM
Let's not forget what happened the last time a Marvel movie had a "short" 15 second dance number.

Or does no one else remember: Spider-Man 3?

To be fair, all three Spiderman films were painfully terrible. That scene was probably the most entertaining moment of the entire series.

In my opinion, multiple villains is ALWAYS a bad idea. Has it ever actually worked out?

Edit: Nevermind. See: The Dark Knight.

I don't really think that worked out. That movie was so good until they brought in Two-Face. Then he became a terribly written character and actually made Ledger's Joker less effective. I'll never understand the urge to have more than one big villain.

Ain't It Cool are pretty optimistic about anything. I remember reading a review where they explained why the butler scene in Spider-Man 3 was cool.

Good God, the Butler scene...

HoNgMVFQNBI

Haha oh lord. I maintain that, as bad as Batman and Robin and Batman Forever are, at least they're LAUGHABLY bad. They don't have a sense of false superiority and try to pretend like theyre good movies, which is exactly what Batman Returns does and EXACTLY what makes it the worst of all the Batman films.

Bat nipples.

fake empire
04/27/10, 03:50 PM
To be fair, all three Spiderman films were painfully terrible. That scene was probably the most entertaining moment of the entire series.



I don't really think that worked out. That movie was so good until they brought in Two-Face. Then he became a terribly written character and actually made Ledger's Joker less effective. I'll never understand the urge to have more than one big villain.
Wrong and wrong.

narcoleptic953
04/27/10, 03:52 PM
Wrong and wrong.

Hahaha, good argument. Oh wait, you don't have one because I'm right.

Seriously, tell me how Two Face was a well written character...

Guern1ca
04/27/10, 04:28 PM
Harvey Dent was a phenomenally written and acted character. His transition into Two-Face was half-assed and boring.

Guern1ca
04/27/10, 04:29 PM
(http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/iron_man_2/articles/1881632/iron_man_2_is_a_lot_of_fun_its_shin y_likeable_and_never_boring_but_its _also_wildly_uneven_and_unnecessari ly_convoluted_leaving_the_viewer_un satisfied_and_hungry_for_something_ more_substantial)
As for the reviews. All I want is to have fun. Which from what I'm reading, I'll do ... no matter how convoluted and uneven the film may be.

TJ Wells
04/27/10, 04:39 PM
To be fair, all three Spiderman films were painfully terrible. That scene was probably the most entertaining moment of the entire series.



I don't really think that worked out. That movie was so good until they brought in Two-Face. Then he became a terribly written character and actually made Ledger's Joker less effective. I'll never understand the urge to have more than one big villain.



Good God, the Butler scene...

HoNgMVFQNBI



Bat nipples.
Still laughably entertaining at times.

flask
04/27/10, 04:46 PM
I bet i'll have a good time watching this movie.

Jason Tate
04/27/10, 04:54 PM
Harvey Dent was a phenomenally written and acted character. His transition into Two-Face was half-assed and boring.
The entire movie was his transition ... how was that half-assed?

Guern1ca
04/27/10, 04:57 PM
The entire movie was his transition ... how was that half-assed?
Should have re-phrased. I felt as if after the accident, his character lost all its strength and it just seemed like a complete and utter afterthought.


Don't get me wrong in saying that, though, I love the movie to death. Just feel like it should/could have been fleshed out a bit more.

Miss Heartcore
04/27/10, 05:14 PM
Should have re-phrased. I felt as if after the accident, his character lost all its strength and it just seemed like a complete and utter afterthought.


Don't get me wrong in saying that, though, I love the movie to death. Just feel like it should/could have been fleshed out a bit more.
I agree. The critics felt that way too about how his character changed in the end.

Honestly, Harvey Dent was the shining role in TDK, to me. The way he was built up before his transition just made it all the more upsetting when it actually happened.

fake empire
04/27/10, 05:20 PM
Hahaha, good argument. Oh wait, you don't have one because I'm right.

Seriously, tell me how Two Face was a well written character...
How was he not well written? One of the major aspects of the movie was Dent's character arc, which began with his rise as Gotham's "white knight" and ends with him turning into the one thing he was trying to destroy. Once he's lost everything, all he wants to do is kill the people he believed ruined his life.

I thought it was a very fitting and emotional ending for the character.

WarpSpeedChewy
04/27/10, 05:29 PM
A few advanced review isn't really enough for me for judgeship, i've seen similar circumstances for other good movies, but even if this movie doesn't quite match expectations, it still has RDJ, Sam Rockwell, fucking War Machine, and fucking Sam Jackson as Nick Fury.

fake empire
04/27/10, 05:37 PM
Plus Justin Theoroux wrote the script, and he's fucking awesome.

TJ Wells
04/27/10, 06:06 PM
Plus Justin Theoroux wrote the script, and he's fucking awesome.
He's written ONE script (not counting this). You're basing everything on that?

narcoleptic953
04/27/10, 06:46 PM
Harvey Dent was a phenomenally written and acted character. His transition into Two-Face was half-assed and boring.

The entire movie was his transition ... how was that half-assed?

Should have re-phrased. I felt as if after the accident, his character lost all its strength and it just seemed like a complete and utter afterthought.


Don't get me wrong in saying that, though, I love the movie to death. Just feel like it should/could have been fleshed out a bit more.

The first half of the movie was everything everyone believed it was. Now, if I watch it, I always turn it off after the accident because it just descends into this mediocre thriller. I didn't see much wrong with it the first time, but since, it's become borderline unwatchable for me, because they essentially abandon character development across the board. None of the characters were anywhere near as well fleshed out as I wanted them to be, and the situations the characters were in were often unexciting, unbelievable and just downright stupid. The Dent "insanity" storyline was one of those.

I agree. The critics felt that way too about how his character changed in the end.

Honestly, Harvey Dent was the shining role in TDK, to me. The way he was built up before his transition just made it all the more upsetting when it actually happened.

How was he not well written? One of the major aspects of the movie was Dent's character arc, which began with his rise as Gotham's "white knight" and ends with him turning into the one thing he was trying to destroy. Once he's lost everything, all he wants to do is kill the people he believed ruined his life.

I thought it was a very fitting and emotional ending for the character.

Quite simply, I didn't found his character's transformation into a villain completely unbelievable. The Rachel/Harvey relationship was underwritten and never felt even remotely genuine, sabotaging the idea that her death was supposed to completely change him as a character. It's ok to have a character transformation, but when the character is almost entirely unrecognizable from 1st act to 2nd, it's overkill. He went from this believable, somewhat complex character to a cardboard, cartoonish villain. Part of what made the Joker such a great villain was that he had no motivation, he was just downright evil and got some sick joy out of the chaos he created. Dent's decision to kill everyone who was even semi-connected to Rachel's death is too simplified. And if he is going to kill people, the Joker should be first on the list. Honestly, the conversation between the two of them in the hospital room made me want to punch something: how could this strong, intelligent, good man be so easily manipulated and so stupid? I think it would have been more interesting to have Two Face hunting down the Joker during the second half rather than have him going around and killing random people. It just felt like he lost all his depth and became a completely different character. And even if you still maintain that it's "a fitting end for the character", I don't know how you can deny that his whole storyline was completely rushed. They could have easily saved him for Batman 3.

Chris Fallon
04/27/10, 07:21 PM
I was afraid this was going to be like Spider Man 3 the moment they announced Scarlett was joining the cast. Sometimes, too much of a good thing can kill a movie -- obviously I will still see this, and I have a pretty open & tolerant mind for comic book movies... but it sounds like it will be popcorn-fun only, and nothing more. That's kinda lame, to be honest. I wanted something with less fluff to open up a rather crappy-looking summer at the movies.

jusscali
04/27/10, 07:21 PM
The first half of the movie was everything everyone believed it was. Now, if I watch it, I always turn it off after the accident because it just descends into this mediocre thriller. I didn't see much wrong with it the first time, but since, it's become borderline unwatchable for me, because they essentially abandon character development across the board. None of the characters were anywhere near as well fleshed out as I wanted them to be, and the situations the characters were in were often unexciting, unbelievable and just downright stupid. The Dent "insanity" storyline was one of those.





Quite simply, I didn't found his character's transformation into a villain completely unbelievable. The Rachel/Harvey relationship was underwritten and never felt even remotely genuine, sabotaging the idea that her death was supposed to completely change him as a character. It's ok to have a character transformation, but when the character is almost entirely unrecognizable from 1st act to 2nd, it's overkill. He went from this believable, somewhat complex character to a cardboard, cartoonish villain. Part of what made the Joker such a great villain was that he had no motivation, he was just downright evil and got some sick joy out of the chaos he created. Dent's decision to kill everyone who was even semi-connected to Rachel's death is too simplified. And if he is going to kill people, the Joker should be first on the list. Honestly, the conversation between the two of them in the hospital room made me want to punch something: how could this strong, intelligent, good man be so easily manipulated and so stupid? I think it would have been more interesting to have Two Face hunting down the Joker during the second half rather than have him going around and killing random people. It just felt like he lost all his depth and became a completely different character. And even if you still maintain that it's "a fitting end for the character", I don't know how you can deny that his whole storyline was completely rushed. They could have easily saved him for Batman 3.

Even though I tend to disagree in part with some of the general comments you've made, I think you make some valid points in here. While a lot of what you gripe about totally worked for me (ie. the hospital scene) I can see how the way you perceive the ease of that transition would prove frustrating. Guess I never really considered that. I do feel as though the relationship between Harvey and Rachel never felt genuine as well.

narcoleptic953
04/27/10, 09:07 PM
Even though I tend to disagree in part with some of the general comments you've made, I think you make some valid points in here. While a lot of what you gripe about totally worked for me (ie. the hospital scene) I can see how the way you perceive the ease of that transition would prove frustrating. Guess I never really considered that. I do feel as though the relationship between Harvey and Rachel never felt genuine as well.

I mean, taking it as a comic book movie, it's still exceptional, and I'd agree that the first half is the finest in the recent entries in the genre, but I think there are some huge flaws that were overlooked upon release (and are still overlooked by many fans of the film). Pretty much nothing in the second half works for me: the hospital stuff, the stuff with the boats, the entire Two-Face storyline, the hostage situation and final encounter with the Joker, and Dent taking Gordon's family hostage. It felt way too crowded too me, and pretty much all of these parts lacked excitement and/or dragged on forever. And then it just abruptly ends. Maybe after the next film, the ending will sit better with me, but I really wasn't a fan of the second half of the script.

Part of the problem with the Dent and Rachel relationship was that we came in not really knowing how long they'd been together. It didn't help that Maggie Gyllenhaal was just stepping into the role and that her and Eckhart had literally no chemistry together. I know their relationship wasn't ever going to be a big part of the film, but when it's essentially what is supposed to spark this huge, drastic character transformation, I think it deserved a little more attention than they gave it. I think they could have added that and a few other things to the first half (more screen time and/or better material for Freeman and Caine, perhaps?), ended it after Rachel's death, and had a near perfect comic book film. I'm probably in the minority on that, but there you go.

jusscali
04/28/10, 12:05 PM
I mean, taking it as a comic book movie, it's still exceptional, and I'd agree that the first half is the finest in the recent entries in the genre, but I think there are some huge flaws that were overlooked upon release (and are still overlooked by many fans of the film). Pretty much nothing in the second half works for me: the hospital stuff, the stuff with the boats, the entire Two-Face storyline, the hostage situation and final encounter with the Joker, and Dent taking Gordon's family hostage. It felt way too crowded too me, and pretty much all of these parts lacked excitement and/or dragged on forever. And then it just abruptly ends. Maybe after the next film, the ending will sit better with me, but I really wasn't a fan of the second half of the script.

Part of the problem with the Dent and Rachel relationship was that we came in not really knowing how long they'd been together. It didn't help that Maggie Gyllenhaal was just stepping into the role and that her and Eckhart had literally no chemistry together. I know their relationship wasn't ever going to be a big part of the film, but when it's essentially what is supposed to spark this huge, drastic character transformation, I think it deserved a little more attention than they gave it. I think they could have added that and a few other things to the first half (more screen time and/or better material for Freeman and Caine, perhaps?), ended it after Rachel's death, and had a near perfect comic book film. I'm probably in the minority on that, but there you go.

It was a story arch that should have been carried out over two films...sadly things didn't work out that way.

poppa Q
04/28/10, 12:53 PM
Very positive review from Ain't it cool (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44828)

Really looking forward to John Slattery as Howard Stark.

Didn't know about this, I love Slattery.

flask
04/28/10, 12:58 PM
lots of good reviews from the Aint It Cool fan screening. though the fact that John Favreu and RDJ were there may have helped that a little.

fake empire
04/28/10, 03:29 PM
He's written ONE script (not counting this). You're basing everything on that?
And also that I love him as an actor/think he's an awesome dude in general. Not that it really relates, but whatever!

NewMutant
04/28/10, 03:31 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44828

"IRON MAN 2 is comic movie crack! I remember how I was after I saw SPIDER-MAN 2. It felt like the world finally fucking got it. I thought we'd always have films increasingly badass from that point - and SPIDER-MAN 3 was not better. And I got a tad sad. When you see a comic book movie that is absolutely the best of what that character can be on screen - it is euphoric. Something to celebrate, to revel in. I've been a comic geek my entire life. I remember when Bob Layton really began blowing my mind with IRON MAN. This is that... but on film... with hundreds of talented awesome artists, technicians and craftsmen all supporting that vision."

I'm not worried anymore.

fake empire
04/28/10, 03:34 PM
The first half of the movie was everything everyone believed it was. Now, if I watch it, I always turn it off after the accident because it just descends into this mediocre thriller. I didn't see much wrong with it the first time, but since, it's become borderline unwatchable for me, because they essentially abandon character development across the board. None of the characters were anywhere near as well fleshed out as I wanted them to be, and the situations the characters were in were often unexciting, unbelievable and just downright stupid. The Dent "insanity" storyline was one of those.





Quite simply, I didn't found his character's transformation into a villain completely unbelievable. The Rachel/Harvey relationship was underwritten and never felt even remotely genuine, sabotaging the idea that her death was supposed to completely change him as a character. It's ok to have a character transformation, but when the character is almost entirely unrecognizable from 1st act to 2nd, it's overkill. He went from this believable, somewhat complex character to a cardboard, cartoonish villain. Part of what made the Joker such a great villain was that he had no motivation, he was just downright evil and got some sick joy out of the chaos he created. Dent's decision to kill everyone who was even semi-connected to Rachel's death is too simplified. And if he is going to kill people, the Joker should be first on the list. Honestly, the conversation between the two of them in the hospital room made me want to punch something: how could this strong, intelligent, good man be so easily manipulated and so stupid? I think it would have been more interesting to have Two Face hunting down the Joker during the second half rather than have him going around and killing random people. It just felt like he lost all his depth and became a completely different character. And even if you still maintain that it's "a fitting end for the character", I don't know how you can deny that his whole storyline was completely rushed. They could have easily saved him for Batman 3.
Well I disagree with pretty much all of that but I guess I can see how one might feel that way.

WarpSpeedChewy
04/28/10, 03:37 PM
Why does Dark Knight have to enter into every comic book movie conversation. Different movie.

Didn't know about this, I love Slattery.
Same here. Big fan. I'm hoping we'll see him play a bigger part over time because apparently he plays into the origin of Captain America in the movie version.

TJ Wells
04/28/10, 04:13 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44828

"IRON MAN 2 is comic movie crack! I remember how I was after I saw SPIDER-MAN 2. It felt like the world finally fucking got it. I thought we'd always have films increasingly badass from that point - and SPIDER-MAN 3 was not better. And I got a tad sad. When you see a comic book movie that is absolutely the best of what that character can be on screen - it is euphoric. Something to celebrate, to revel in. I've been a comic geek my entire life. I remember when Bob Layton really began blowing my mind with IRON MAN. This is that... but on film... with hundreds of talented awesome artists, technicians and craftsmen all supporting that vision."

I'm not worried anymore.
Wow. Seriously? Harry Knowles liking something is usually the death knell for me.

NewMutant
04/28/10, 04:26 PM
Wow. Seriously? Harry Knowles liking something is usually the death knell for me.

Considering the controversy surrounding him, I hear you, but it was the review more than anything that convinced me. I hope I'm not making a mistake in trusting his review.

IGN's review (http://movies.ign.com/articles/108/1086382p1.html) was generally positive as well.

fake empire
04/28/10, 04:27 PM
Harry Knowles has liked a lof of crap, but he likes good stuff too.

TJ Wells
04/28/10, 04:31 PM
Harry Knowles has liked a lof of crap, but he likes good stuff too.
He's a little bitch. I more don't like HIM than his reviews.

jusscali
04/28/10, 04:41 PM
What's the "deal" with Harry Knowles if you don't mind me asking

TJ Wells
04/28/10, 04:45 PM
What's the "deal" with Harry Knowles if you don't mind me asking
He made this huge fuss when Aziz and Huebel and a bunch of other guys went to live-twitter Crank 2, said they were ruining the "sanctity of moviegoing," bitched like a little crybaby. Really made me hate him.

fake empire
04/28/10, 04:49 PM
He made this huge fuss when Aziz and Huebel and a bunch of other guys went to live-twitter Crank 2, said they were ruining the "sanctity of moviegoing," bitched like a little crybaby. Really made me hate him.
Oh wow I never saw that

flask
04/28/10, 11:25 PM
Why does Dark Knight have to enter into every comic book movie conversation. Different movie.


Same here. Big fan. I'm hoping we'll see him play a bigger part over time because apparently he plays into the origin of Captain America in the movie version.


Dark Knight. highest grossing comic book film of all time. one of the highest grossing films of any kind in history. like it or not, its gonna be mentioned in any comic book movie conversation from here on out.

murrich
04/28/10, 11:32 PM
Pretty sweet movie, not quite as good as the first one though.

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 10:21 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44828

"IRON MAN 2 is comic movie crack! I remember how I was after I saw SPIDER-MAN 2. It felt like the world finally fucking got it. I thought we'd always have films increasingly badass from that point - and SPIDER-MAN 3 was not better. And I got a tad sad. When you see a comic book movie that is absolutely the best of what that character can be on screen - it is euphoric. Something to celebrate, to revel in. I've been a comic geek my entire life. I remember when Bob Layton really began blowing my mind with IRON MAN. This is that... but on film... with hundreds of talented awesome artists, technicians and craftsmen all supporting that vision."

I'm not worried anymore.
Spider-Man 2, looking back, was not good.

Why Bother?
04/29/10, 11:26 AM
Spider-Man 2, looking back, was not good.

Wrong.

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 11:29 AM
Wrong.
:ok:

You can have that franchise. I want nothing to do with it.

Why Bother?
04/29/10, 11:29 AM
Got my tickets.

Miss Heartcore
04/29/10, 11:30 AM
Spider-Man 2, looking back, was not good.
Correct.

Why Bother?
04/29/10, 11:30 AM
:ok:

You can have that franchise. I want nothing to do with it.

I will proudly take and cherish the first two installments.

Miss Heartcore
04/29/10, 11:35 AM
:ok:

You can have that franchise. I want nothing to do with it.
I like you more now.

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 11:36 AM
I like you more now.
:dance:

Drew Beringer
04/29/10, 11:39 AM
all the Spider Man movies suck. I really enjoyed the first Iron Man. Will see Iron Man 2 next Friday.

The Dark Knight still reigns superior.

poppa Q
04/29/10, 11:41 AM
Batman Begins > all

Full Effect Ed
04/29/10, 11:45 AM
Daredevil >>>> all

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 11:46 AM
Daredevil >>>> all
All >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Affleck.

Daredevil was awful. The see-saw scene? Hahaha.

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 11:46 AM
all the Spider Man movies suck. I really enjoyed the first Iron Man. Will see Iron Man 2 next Friday.

The Dark Knight still reigns superior.
This.

Miss Heartcore
04/29/10, 11:51 AM
all the Spider Man movies suck. I really enjoyed the first Iron Man. Will see Iron Man 2 next Friday.

The Dark Knight still reigns superior.
Agreed about Spider Man.
Dark Knight is great but Iron Man remains in the top spot for me.

Full Effect Ed
04/29/10, 11:51 AM
All >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Affleck.

Daredevil was awful. The see-saw scene? Hahaha.

Suck it, Reindeer Games

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 11:54 AM
Suck it, Reindeer Games
I'm not Ben Affleck!

Drew Beringer
04/29/10, 11:54 AM
Suck it, Reindeer Games
you white, you Ben Affleck.

Full Effect Ed
04/29/10, 11:55 AM
I'm not Ben Affleck!

You white, then you Ben Affleck

Full Effect Ed
04/29/10, 11:56 AM
you white, you Ben Affleck.

jinx, you owe me a coke lol

Full Effect Ed
04/29/10, 12:00 PM
Robert Downey, Jr. has confirmed Iron Man will return for a third time, but the sequel will have to wait until after The Avengers movie is completed.
The actor returns as entrepreneur-turned-superhero Tony Stark in Iron Man 2, opposite Gwyneth Paltrow, Mickey Rourke and Scarlett Johansson.
Downey, Jr. will reprise the character for comic book collaboration The Avengers, which will see Iron Man team up with The Hulk, Thor and Captain America on the big screen, but the star already has ideas for Iron Man 3.
He tells MTV news, "I think it's (Iron Man 3) going to go down. (Although The Avengers is) supposedly first on (Marvel Entertainment's) docket. I have some pretty strong ideas, but they never seem to be too discordant with what the creative execs at Marvel are thinking anyway. It's all there (in the comic books). There's a little bit of a bunch of different storylines from different decades."


Source: WENN

fake empire
04/29/10, 03:37 PM
All the Spider-Man hate in here makes me sad. Everyone loved the first two until the third one came out.

Of Purest Fire
04/29/10, 03:40 PM
Probably going to see this tomorrow. Hopefully, it won't disappoint.

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 03:47 PM
All the Spider-Man hate in here makes me sad. Everyone loved the first two until the third one came out.
Nah.

fake empire
04/29/10, 03:55 PM
Nah.
I seem to remember you being pretty excited for Spider-Man 3 to come out...

Why Bother?
04/29/10, 03:55 PM
All the Spider-Man hate in here makes me sad. Everyone loved the first two until the third one came out.

This times a million.

fake empire
04/29/10, 03:56 PM
Probably going to see this tomorrow. Hopefully, it won't disappoint.
How are so many people seeing this early?

ImTheSheriff
04/29/10, 04:03 PM
the first spiderman was good when i was in like 6th grade, but the second and third were complete shit. i laughed at the third one in the theater.

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 04:08 PM
I seem to remember you being pretty excited for Spider-Man 3 to come out...
I've been excited for lots of movies to come out that ended up sucking.

Vincewithouthee
04/29/10, 04:09 PM
All the Spider-Man hate in here makes me sad. Everyone loved the first two until the third one came out.

Yeah seriously. I mostly blame this on the Dark Knight since it's superior to all comic book movies (which people compare every comic movie to which is stupid), but seriously I remember mostly everyone loved the first two Spider Man movies. Now everyone just seems to be following the hate train. Annoying.

fake empire
04/29/10, 04:10 PM
I've been excited for lots of movies to come out that ended up sucking.
Yes, but you were excited because you liked the first two.. was my point.

fake empire
04/29/10, 04:13 PM
Yeah seriously. I mostly blame this on the Dark Knight since it's superior to all comic book movies (which people compare every comic movie to which is stupid), but seriously I remember mostly everyone loved the first two Spider Man movies. Now everyone just seems to be following the hate train. Annoying.
Yea it is stupid. Not every superhero movie needs to be super dark and realistic like The Dark Knight.

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 04:14 PM
Yes, but you were excited because you liked the first two.. was my point.
Which would be a false statement. The first two aren't very good. Better than the 3rd. Still not very good. I'll go see, and be excited for, the 4th Spider-Man as well. I like the character. I thought the movies were ok to decent at one time ... now I find them unwatchable.

Drew Beringer
04/29/10, 04:15 PM
The only thing that bummed me out about Iron Man was that Jeff Bridges was the villain! come on that's The Dude, don't bum me out like that!

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 04:15 PM
Yeah seriously. I mostly blame this on the Dark Knight since it's superior to all comic book movies (which people compare every comic movie to which is stupid), but seriously I remember mostly everyone loved the first two Spider Man movies. Now everyone just seems to be following the hate train. Annoying.
Yeah, and I thought vanilla was the best until I tried chocolate. Opinions change.

fake empire
04/29/10, 04:15 PM
lol whatever

zion the lion
04/29/10, 04:15 PM
All the Spider-Man hate in here makes me sad. Everyone loved the first two until the third one came out.

I remember going to see the first one when I was 9 (turning 10) on opening night and everyone being so hyped to see it and it being really good, so I dont get the hate, although I never saw the third one.

Jason Tate
04/29/10, 04:17 PM
lol whatever
Are you trying to convince me I loved a movie I didn't? :eyebrow: I don't understand.

Drew Beringer
04/29/10, 04:20 PM
Spider Man 1 and 2: Entertaining? Sure. A good movie? Not a chance.

Thomas Balkcom
04/29/10, 04:40 PM
throw in my two cents on the Spiderman matter - didn't like 2, hated 3, and I don't remember 1.

colorlesscliche
04/29/10, 04:48 PM
I think the first two were good on their own merit, but after you see 3, you realize how bad the first two really were.