A Day to Remember - Homesick

[Blake Solomon]

A Day to Remember - Homesick
Record Label: Victory Records
Release Date: February 3, 2009

Homesick makes it abundantly clear why so many people refuse to jump sides for A Day to Remember. There are 12 songs of the exact same heavy/lol-pop that can be heard on For Those Who Have Heart or And Their Name Was Treason. Stick with your instincts; there are no true changes to the band’s sound. However, I finally realized the (probably intentional) trickery that comes packaged with ADTR records. Each one begins with a blistering fist pumper that’s more pop than “mosh.” The listener is instantly “amped” up (or whatever), and then it’s almost like the remaining 35 minutes don’t even matter. Your sated pleasure sensors easily discharge the forthcoming filler. But let’s say you skip that first song - or in this case, the first and second song - do you still have a great record? Quite confidently, I will say without this carefully planned dose of adrenaline you have a terrible f**king record. After we hear a shattering breakdown proclaiming “This is a battleground!” in second song “My Life For Hire,” the album becomes pretty skippable - save for a few (admittedly contagious) moments. If any band should just release EP’s, it’s A Day to Remember.

Trust me when I say Homesick can feel like a day lost. It becomes excessively tiring to hear what sounds like the same song - save for slightly different choruses - over and over. Maybe for a record (or even two!) this could be satisfactory. But other than doing away with the slightly creepy/sappy vibe of For Those Who Have Heart, this is essentially the same record. I won’t lie: at first, I was content. I even posted in the forums that I thought this was ADTR’s best record. Turns out I was on iTunes Shuffle and a song from FTWHH was playing. Oops. My bad.

This is multiplayer music, so perhaps my crippling social failures make me a bad judge of Homesick. Unless you're surrounded by bros and brews (i.e. XsodaX), prepare to feel like a fool when ADTR start gang-chanting, “This is the life we chose / This is the life I lead / They can never take this from me!” But hey!, there’s some double bass and some uplifting lyrics and hey! the song is called “NJ Legion Iced Tea” so it’s about foolin' haters and crap! (You’re a cynical dick - Editor.)

Whether you believe it or not, I’m an optimist. I hear hope in “Have Faith in Me.” The song is very light on the screaming and very focused on the catchy chorus. True, it’s one of the simpler songs on Homesick, but at least it sounds a teensy bit different. The song is cheesy in an endearing way (“I said I’d never let you go / And I never did”). Its gang chorus accents rather than overtakes, and we leave “amped” (or whatever) in a completely different way. Sadly, the song precedes “Welcome to the Family” (featuring Vincent Bennett of The Acacia Strain), which comes across as a weak appeasement to those who were hoping for the fierceness of FTWHH.

As is their custom, ADTR have included a mostly acoustic opportunity for vocalist Jeremy McKinnon. Is he auditioning for a solo spot on Tooth & Nail? His nasally, vocally-stretched performance sounds almost too fake to handle. The “La La La’s” are so overly “mouthed” (that’s a term, right?) that you’ll need to scrub the lame off you for hours. “If It Means A Lot To You” also features a duet with Sierra Kusterbeck of VersaEmerge before eventually erupting into a gang chorus of “La La’s”, but these additions do very little to save the track.

An impressive opener like “The Downfall Of Us All” can't hide Homesick's disappointing truth. There’s barely enough songs for a self-made EP, and as a full length it borders on torturous redundancy. McKinnon sounds improved most of the time, but it’s hard to critique any improvements for the other musicians due to the album’s “been there” feel. Never taking any steps forward has finally crippled A Day to Remember, and a continued fear of the unknown will surely kill them.


Recommended If You Like: Four Year Strong, The Wonder Years, doing "funny" recommended if you like's for every review in the same fashion for almost 2 years, Fight Fair!, doing "funny" recommended if you like's for every review in the same, erm, way for, erm, nearly 2 years.


www.absolutepunk.net/adaytoremember

Per Victory Records' request, I must mention that this review was conducted using a leaked "unmastered" version of Homesick. You may now return to your regularly scheduled Blake-bashing. Thanks.

[c_rob2700]

Recommended If You Like: Four Year Strong, The Wonder Years, doing "funny" recommended if you like's for every review in the same fashion for almost 2 years, Fight Fair!, doing "funny" recommended if you like's for every review in the same, erm, way for, erm, nearly 2 years.


Ohh Blake, you slay me

[Akissforher]

I really liked FTWHH, especially the cover of Kelly Clarkson, guilty as charged..

Suddenly i feel less excited to hear this record, whilst i liked the last record i did get very tiresome, spot on with the RIYL,

heavy/lol-pop.

nice.

good review

[Blake Solomon]

I really liked FTWHH, especially the cover of Kelly Clarkson, guilty as charged..

Suddenly i feel less excited to hear this record, whilst i liked the last record i did get very tiresome, spot on with the RIYL,

heavy/lol-pop.

nice.

good review
i mean, give it a shot at least. For me though, this record truly showed the limitations of this genre. I have over 30 songs of this band on my itunes and they all sound more or less the same. You know? It's hard to justify spending money on something you pretty much already have.

[zubinmoosa]

Hilarious as usual. Albeit a bit harsh: I liked this record. Though it was kind of repetitive, I found it had lots of catchy choruses.

[andrew4045]

yikes. i still will give it a shot though...

[davidc182]

i do really like this band and i bet if they had did something really different you all will be like ''why they change this sound?'' its their sound thats why you like them, if u wanna hear something different go listen another band dont u think so?
this band deserves a better review than this
thats my 2 cents
sorry if i had some mistakes
not used to this language :P

[Blake Solomon]

i do really like this band and i bet if they had did something really different you all will be like ''why they change this sound?'' its their sound thats why you like them, if u wanna hear something different go listen another band dont u think so?
this band deserves a better review than this
thats my 2 cents
sorry if i had some mistakes
not used to this language :P
no problem with the language! I can only say "nachos" in spanish. But I'm working on it.

I wanted to address this comment early because I foresee it coming up more than once.

Yes, it does appear that if I don't like this sound, which is to say, "their" sound, that I should just move on to another band. But there's a difference between doing something completely new and revolutionary to their sound than mixing things up. I am obviously clamoring for the latter. I don't want them to turn into a rap-rock band or a latin fusion jazz band. I just want them to delve further into the bag for some tricks. Some of these songs sound so similar to earlier forays that it's mind numbing. But like I said above, I'm not sure anymore just how different their sound can get, which is a large problem, because right now it's not somethign that will ever stand any test of time (if I can quote an earlier song!).

Minor shifts can become major for this band.

[Akissforher]

"I just want them to delve further into the bag for some tricks."

Sorry only new, havent got the hang of the proper quotes yet.

Couldnt agree more with that point, while they (in my opinion) are one of the best in this now flooded genre, you feel like it has all been done before, and im sure many would agree with this and disagree, i love this genre, but at times i feel almost disheartened by it.

Am i the only one dreading what the next 'trend' in music will be after this dance-rock fad will end? (I know this doesnt apply to ADTR but i just wanted to express this.)

Probably still pick up a copy of this one way or another, curse living Australia...., all this is world's away from us..

[fhsbb232]

Good review blake. ADTR needs some change.

[Greg.Kushlan]

I love how when bayside doesn't change their sound they get praise, but a band like this gets shit on.

I enjoyed the album for what it was, but I don't see the album getting much play on my Ipod as soon as the new NFG and Fireworks come out.

[yourprivateeye]

i LOVE this record. it's fun. it's catchy. the breakdowns are great. i wouldn't expect anything less or more.

i think it sounds like a logical follow-up to "for those...," which is my most played album on my ipod of over 16, 000 songs.

[element11790]

upon first listening to this album i hated it and was dissapointed and thought that all the songs sounded the same also...
however after giving it another shot i realized thats its really really great! it has some really really good breakdowns and fun parts to sing along to. thats just my take

[Shrillex]

and their name was treason imo was and only good record they ever made

[HometownHero]

I liked this :( to each their own. They do need change but I think they are good at what they do best

[mht]

open chord

junga junga junga

dun dun dun

junga junga junga

singy part

3 chord strum

drum fill

gang vocals of a cheesy line

junga junga junga

junga junga

open chord

junga junga

double bass

outro


-typical song

[Blake Solomon]

sorry, caught a few typos in there. Should be all fixed and good now.

-BLAKE(ditor)

[live.]

I liked this :( to each their own. They do need change but I think they are good at what they do best
I agree. I take them for what they are, and I really enjoyed this record.

[LongDistanceDrunk]

I love how when bayside doesn't change their sound they get praise, but a band like this gets shit on.

I enjoyed the album for what it was, but I don't see the album getting much play on my Ipod as soon as the new NFG and Fireworks come out.
Bayside is a talented band that will last and ADTR is generic scenecore that has no lasting value. While it is true Bayside has a similar sound for all four albums they are still great albums. Bayside has actual fans but ADTR mainly has casual listeners waiting for the next trendy sound

[HometownHero]

I agree. I take them for what they are, and I really enjoyed this record.
Whats your favorite track off of the new record?

[live.]

Whats your favorite track off of the new record?
Probably "Welcome to the Family" or "Wax Larry", but I find myself getting into songs I originally thought were just fillers like "Have Faith In Me"

Bayside is a talented band that will last and ADTR is generic scenecore that has no lasting value. While it is true Bayside has a similar sound for all four albums they are still great albums. Bayside has actual fans but ADTR mainly has casual listeners waiting for the next trendy sound

I get your point that Bayside keeping the same sound isn't as bad as a band like this repeating the same breakdowns album-to-album, but using that as a reason to state that they have "no actual fans" makes absolutely no sense. ADTR has plenty of fans that don't really care about musical theory, album progression or production. I'm not saying those things aren't important, I'm just pointing out that they have a completely different fan base than most of the bands that score high reviews. I happen to know people, myself included, who are fans of both Bayside and A Day To Remember. Fuck, they've toured together.

[HometownHero]

Probably "Welcome to the Family" or "Wax Larry", but I find myself getting into songs I originally thought were just fillers like "Have Faith In Me"



I get your point that Bayside keeping the same sound isn't as bad as a band like this repeating the same breakdowns album-to-album, but using that as a reason to state that they have "no actual fans" makes absolutely no sense. ADTR has plenty of fans that don't really care about musical theory, album progression or production. I'm not saying those things aren't important, I'm just pointing out that they have a completely different fan base than most of the bands that score high reviews. I happen to know people, myself included, who are fans of both Bayside and A Day To Remember. Fuck, they've toured together.
I like My Life For Hire and NJ Leighon Ice Tea or whatever its called. Welcome To The Family is solid to

[StartAngry&Mad]

Friend: "dude, have you ever heard A Day To Remember? That girl I was telling you about is really into them and we were listening to them; they're pretty hardcore!"
Me: "Really? Ya, I've listened to their last album, I don't consider them too hardcore though, its really just pop-punk with breakdowns and low growls, was it their new album?"
Friend: "Ya, it was, and I didn't hear any poppiness, it was heavy stuff"
Me: "Huh! Guess they got heavier, I'll have to check it out"

Conclusion: my friend's a big pussy because Homesick sounds identical to their last albums, still a formulaic blend of poppy choruses, breakdowns and gang vocals (I love all three individually, even combined, but as another one of my friends said upon overhearing ADTR for the first time "I think that opening riff's been used before, like 14 times")

[GiantInTheRing]

"However, I finally realized the (probably intentional) trickery that comes packaged with ADTR records. Each one begins with a blistering fist pumper that’s more pop than “mosh.” The listener is instantly “amped” up (or whatever), and then it’s almost like the remaining 35 minutes don’t even matter. Your sated pleasure sensors easily discharge the forthcoming filler. But let’s say you skip that first song - or in this case, the first and second song - do you still have a great record? Quite confidently, I will say without this carefully planned dose of adrenaline you have a terrible f**king record."

Sorry Blake, can't take your review seriously!
(http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=thMx..&search=seriously)

[fadedmemories]

I LOL'ed.

[fadedmemories]

Finally finished reading the review.... I'm still laughing :-d

[EndSerenading]

this band is one of those bands that ive liked a few songs from as a guilty pleasure because they had some catchiness to them, but as a whole they are a gimmick band that is not doing anything new at all.

[showstopper]

it sounds the same from the start to the end,so boring

[fashionshowdown]

and their name was treason imo was and only good record they ever made
For Those Who Have Heart was great in it's own way. I have been a big fan of them through all the records. I'll still have to buy this because deep down I know it's going to be good. I think Blake did miss out on the lyrical content of A Day To Remember, which is something I'm very fond of.

[Tyler Vagyler]

This review seems biased. I mean, I know they aren't the most original band out now, but this album deserves much more than 48%. I do agree that they need to change it up a little, but 48%? Come on now....This website gives bands much much worse than ADTR higher ratings than 48%....

If you enjoyed their previous stuff, this album is for you. If you aren't already an ADTR fan, you probably won't enjoy this.

[Klatzke]

This album is terrible, I agree.

.. and the vocals sound unbelievably produced for someone who admits he can't sing live.

[Quinzackattack]

eh, i like the album.. its my two fav things in one
heavy music/poppy music.. cant go wrong there.

plus to the douchebags on the thread saying "they need to change their sound".
GO FUCK YOURSELF! you'd be bitching either way if they did or didnt..

so...just keep running your mouth. You wont change a thing ;)

[sweepthenation]

Fuck you, I loved this record

[Klatzke]

These kind of comments just piss everyone off:

eh, i like the album.. its my two fav things in one
heavy music/poppy music.. cant go wrong there.

plus to the douchebags on the thread saying "they need to change their sound".
GO FUCK YOURSELF! you'd be bitching either way if they did or didnt..

so...just keep running your mouth. You wont change a thing ;)

Fuck you, I loved this record

Nothing you're saying in them help the reviewer at all. He has a different opinion than you.

[jimjam32]

my friend is in love with this band. i can't get into them. i love four year strong, but this band isn't even close to being on the same level as them

[AndrewCloer]

I agree on the fact that it is repetitive.

Although, I personally love the new record, and have been listening to it non-stop.

I plan on buying it when it hits stores :D

[AlwaysFTM]

to be honest, i dont think any record ATRD will ever release could protray how fun and entertaining they are live. I love their shows. They could play Plot to Bomb 5 times in a row and i swear the crowd would go just as crazy everytime. At least thats what i think haha.

[muttley]

ouch.

i'd have to disagree, though.
i thought it was really catchy. needless to say, i'm hooked.

[sweepthenation]

These kind of comments just piss everyone off:





Nothing you're saying in them help the reviewer at all. He has a different opinion than you.
True, I guess I was just mad, becuase I usually agree with most reviews done here, and they all accurately seem to sum up how good a record is, yet here I think that he completely gets it wrong. But yes, everyone has their own opinion, and I'm just looking forward to seeing them live

[trevis427]

dadadadadadadadada-dada-dada-da-da-da-dada-dada-dadadadadadadadada-da-dada-dada-dada

i agree its just like FTWHH so becauase i was a fan of it i liked this cd. but it's nothing amazing. just catchy here and there. if it ain't broke don't fix it. i liked the demo of WAX LARRY better then the produced version....btw the guys who dont like this cd are entitled to their opinion and did a SOMEWHAT mature way of saying it..to those telling them to fuck off and everything just sounds ignorant as fuck

[TuskandTemper]

terrible review.

[muttley]

Hilarious as usual. Albeit a bit harsh: I liked this record. Though it was kind of repetitive, I found it had lots of catchy choruses.
agreed.

[Yellowcard2006]

I love how when bayside doesn't change their sound they get praise, but a band like this gets shit on.

I enjoyed the album for what it was, but I don't see the album getting much play on my Ipod as soon as the new NFG and Fireworks come out.
woah...woah woah woah. Are you trying to say that Sirens and Condolences sounds the same as The Walking Wounded. Or a song like Roshambo is the same as Devotion and Desire?...oh dear thats just not accurate.

I was interested in the album, but now I guess not so much. They do have basically one song that consists of /scream verse/catchy chorus/scream verse/generic breakdown/

[batmannj]

lol, Blake i really enjoyed the review, but I actually liked this record a lot. It is not great or anything, but it is fun, and the breakdownpopcore is something i can get into. While I do agree that they have released the same record three times, I enjoy it enough that three of these records aint so bad.

Oh, and the RIYL section at the end made me lol pretty hard.

[2hxc4you]

i usually like your reviews Blake, but i have to disagree with you about this record wholeheartedly. terrible review in my opinion.

[live.]

I don't know what people were expecting - a fucking Fleet Foxes record? I feel like so many of you set the bar way too high for a band like this. While 48% is painfully low, I don't think anybody was expected anything higher than 70.

[lightcollapse]

Album fucking rules.

[Drew Beringer]

fair rating, I enjoy the record, but as you said, it's nothing new.

[I Shot Chicago]

nice review.
i'm going to see them with the Devil Wears Prada in march and will judge whether or not i buy this album then

[halifaxonfire]

I love how when bayside doesn't change their sound they get praise, but a band like this gets shit on.

I enjoyed the album for what it was, but I don't see the album getting much play on my Ipod as soon as the new NFG and Fireworks come out.

haha so true, dude. i will never understand the love for that band on this site.

i'll start of by saying i'm a fan of this band, but i've listened to this album all the way through a few times now, and i'm already pretty done with it. i agree that there is some hope in tracks like "Have Faith In Me" and even in "Another Song for the Weekend" where they drop the breakdowns and embrace their poppier side, but those are two of the few songs i find myself going back to off this album. also, this band needs to stop with the token acoustic track on each album.

[LordDukeMumbly]

ive been listening to this record a ton cause my friend found it on a torrent (im still going to go buy it for sure though, no worries lol. it was just to tempting to not ask for it), and i think it is really really good. granted its kind of the same stuff, but its most deffinetly not bad one bit, and i havnt gotten tired of it. it always leaves me wanting more and wanting to listen to it again.

[iseejosh]

i like the cd but yeah nothing new its catchy and heavy....what did you expect. but one major complaint listen to the beginning of "have faith in me" the listen to "Franklin" by paramore......

[OdeToTheSun]

This:
terrible review.

[Blake Solomon]

i usually like your reviews Blake, but i have to disagree with you about this record wholeheartedly. terrible review in my opinion.
well, you are too hardcore for me.

But seriously, it's not the review you hate, it's the opinion. Or did my grammar and punctuation give you cause for hatred? If so, I apologize for jumping to conclusions.

[batmannj]

eh, i like the album.. its my two fav things in one
heavy music/poppy music.. cant go wrong there.

plus to the douchebags on the thread saying "they need to change their sound".
GO FUCK YOURSELF! you'd be bitching either way if they did or didnt..

so...just keep running your mouth. You wont change a thing ;)

Fuck you, I loved this record
seriously guys, did you read the review? I liked the record, and I disagree with Blake in that respect, but at the same time, he articulated very well why he did not like the record. It's true they didn't change their sound, and to be honest, there is really nothing wrong with that if you like them. MxPx has released a lot of the same sort of material, and they are doing pretty well and they still have a large fan base.

[Heroin Robot]

lol ignorant

[MorningStar10]

Totally agree with the review on the band seemingly appearing as a sort of 'one trick pony'.
The whole song structures to their songs are so monotonic. Heavy-Pop-Heavy-Pop and sometimes it seems they are poppy for the sake of it, and similarly heavy for the sake of it.

This band should divulge more and im sure if they do, they have potential to make a cracking album, but this this album isn't it.

[EndSerenading]

This review seems biased. I mean, I know they aren't the most original band out now, but this album deserves much more than 48%. I do agree that they need to change it up a little, but 48%? Come on now....This website gives bands much much worse than ADTR higher ratings than 48%....

If you enjoyed their previous stuff, this album is for you. If you aren't already an ADTR fan, you probably won't enjoy this.

i guess its just dependent on what it is relative too. yes on this site a 48% seems fairly low but you have to remember that there are multiple people reviewing things on here. Also, I posted this in another thread and I think it might be worth reposting:

"On a scale of 1-10, 5 should always be the point of reference (average, worth checking out but nothing ground breaking) but if anyone gives a record a 5 or 6 on here people assume it sucks which doesnt make much sense. I mean I consider 6 a solid score - the album is above average which is a compliment. Small gripe I know, but thats how it goes. This is how I alloted scores:

5 decent/average
6 good/above average
7 very good
8 great
9 nearly perfect
10 perfect (extremely rare of course)"

To me, a 48% means it was just slightly below average which to me snychs up with his review quite appropriately. catchy, sometimes fun, sometimes repetitive and certainly nothing new or musically challenging = mediocre/average record. I think his score fits with his opinion.

Personally I have to admit that some of the stuff is catchy, but the band sounds like a one trick pony/gimmick exploiter to me with every song and album sounding SOOOOOO similar and to go with that, their style is very very dumbed down and simple to begin with. If I was reviewing it I would have given it a 5.

[alexbrew]

i think this record has the same style as FTWHH, but i don't think that style was bad at all.

this is was ADTR are good at, and they completely sold me on this record.

[Handraa]

I was very dissapointed with this record. Too much production.

[The Summer Ends]

I love all the recs, but I can't stand this band. I don't know why.

[Drew Beringer]

i guess its just dependent on what it is relative too. yes on this site a 48% seems fairly low but you have to remember that there are multiple people reviewing things on here. Also, I posted this in another thread and I think it might be worth reposting:

"On a scale of 1-10, 5 should always be the point of reference (average, worth checking out but nothing ground breaking) but if anyone gives a record a 5 or 6 on here people assume it sucks which doesnt make much sense. I mean I consider 6 a solid score - the album is above average which is a compliment. Small gripe I know, but thats how it goes. This is how I alloted scores:

5 decent/average
6 good/above average
7 very good
8 great
9 nearly perfect
10 perfect (extremely rare of course)"

To me, a 48% means it was just slightly below average which to me snychs up with his review quite appropriately. catchy, sometimes fun, sometimes repetitive and certainly nothing new or musically challenging = mediocre/average record. I think his score fits with his opinion.

Personally I have to admit that some of the stuff is catchy, but the band sounds like a one trick pony/gimmick exploiter to me with every song and album sounding SOOOOOO similar and to go with that, their style is very very dumbed down and simple to begin with. If I was reviewing it I would have given it a 5.
See, most people don't see it like that due to how things are evaluated in our school systems. As a student, we are told that anything below a 60% is failing. 70%, or a C, is seen as average, and so forth. That is what most people see and think when they see percentage scores. And that is how I rate my reviews.

[RonMexico]

This band never put out a single good record.
It bears repeating: A Day To Remember is a Band to Forget.

[EndSerenading]

yea i know thats how stuff in school was graded, I guess I just normally have reviewed stuff differently simply because the school wayit squishes all the positives into one small portion of the 1-10 rating scale. If a 7 is average, you only have 7.5-10 to differentiate between mediocre and great/album of the year quality whereas you have anywhere from 1-6.5 to describe how bad of an album something is. Just never seemed quite right since the majority of reviews are going to be positive (lets face it most people dont review something they dont expect to like at least a little, or if something is SO bad ppl tend to jump all the way down to like 20%).

I can defintiely understand where you are coming from and Im not trying to diss the system here by any means:), it just makes things harder to judge by score when I see people giving a 75% saying it was a 'decent record, worth listening to' and then anothe record only 10 pts higher at an 85% and the review is using that score to signify it as an awesome album with minor flaws.

[live.]

See, most people don't see it like that due to how things are evaluated in our school systems. As a student, we are told that anything below a 60% is failing. 70%, or a C, is seen as average, and so forth. That is what most people see and think when they see percentage scores. And that is how I rate my reviews.
Does that apply to your ISMOF review :-d

[halifaxonfire]

i like the cd but yeah nothing new its catchy and heavy....what did you expect. but one major complaint listen to the beginning of "have faith in me" the listen to "Franklin" by paramore......
i don't really hear the similarity between those two, at least not as much as Have Faith In Me and Anthem Part 2.

[Blake Solomon]

i guess its just dependent on what it is relative too. yes on this site a 48% seems fairly low but you have to remember that there are multiple people reviewing things on here. Also, I posted this in another thread and I think it might be worth reposting:

"On a scale of 1-10, 5 should always be the point of reference (average, worth checking out but nothing ground breaking) but if anyone gives a record a 5 or 6 on here people assume it sucks which doesnt make much sense. I mean I consider 6 a solid score - the album is above average which is a compliment. Small gripe I know, but thats how it goes. This is how I alloted scores:

5 decent/average
6 good/above average
7 very good
8 great
9 nearly perfect
10 perfect (extremely rare of course)"

To me, a 48% means it was just slightly below average which to me snychs up with his review quite appropriately. catchy, sometimes fun, sometimes repetitive and certainly nothing new or musically challenging = mediocre/average record. I think his score fits with his opinion.

Personally I have to admit that some of the stuff is catchy, but the band sounds like a one trick pony/gimmick exploiter to me with every song and album sounding SOOOOOO similar and to go with that, their style is very very dumbed down and simple to begin with. If I was reviewing it I would have given it a 5.
we are on the same page.

[denissuxx]

Reading the comments shows me just how widespread piracy is :)

I liked the record; a lot lot more than their previous stuff

There were some moments when they tried to do something different, such as in If It Means A Lot To You, with the addition of Sierra from VersaEmerge.

[Sandie-Jenkins]

I totally agree 100% with this review. I listened to the first few songs and was like "ok this sounds good" but then I realize they put heavy fast songs at the begining of the record to cover up for a crap album.

[smelltheglove]

heard their last album, did nothing for me, too formulaic and trendy. the whole pop-punk verse, hardcore breakdown with screams then harmonized poppy chorus is just too bland when presented the way these guys do it.

saw them open for NFG and was completely underwhelmed. all their songs sounded the same and thier annoying 14 year old 'hey i'm sXe!!! i'm so cool!' fans were even worse.

and all their fans must have not done laundry lately cuz they were all wearing thier little sisters jeans.

[BulleTheory]

agreed 100%...i dont understand the big hype with this band, everything sounds the same.

[mybreakingpoint]

haha so true, dude. i will never understand the love for that band on this site.

i'll start of by saying i'm a fan of this band, but i've listened to this album all the way through a few times now, and i'm already pretty done with it. i agree that there is some hope in tracks like "Have Faith In Me" and even in "Another Song for the Weekend" where they drop the breakdowns and embrace their poppier side, but those are two of the few songs i find myself going back to off this album. also, this band needs to stop with the token acoustic track on each album.
i won't either. i will never understand any amount of praise for Bayside whatsoever.

[Superpanda8]

in my opinion, the album does exactly what i want it to do. i love this band, since the treason days, and its just a catchy cd, with some heavy breakdowns and pretty simple lyrics to chant with your friends and sing live. other than that, would i consider it revolutionary? of course not, but if you are waiting for these guys to release an album, you don't really need to expect more. to be disappointed by this album yet be a day to remember fan is hard to see.

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

less on the screaming and this album would kick MAJOR ass. as it is - this album is way better than you give it credit for in your review.

[therookielot]

It's an extremely well written review. I always like your reviews. I just don't think it's a bad album. You really ripped it apart like they were brokencyde or something. For me, I kind of expected this album from them, so I'm not at all surprised to the lack of change.

Besides, it's a catch 22, if they change people will bitch. If they don't change, people will bitch. That's why, as an artist I'm going to pull a back to the future. Except instead of recording 3 movies at once, I'll record 55 songs once, for my entire career. Then I will release 11 songs every 2 years or so. When I'm out of songs, I will resort to acting or record an album with joaquin phoenix.

[Just An End]

"Hey mom, I wrote you some soft songs"

I'm sorry but I can't take this shit seriously.. go listen to Bangarang!

[mybreakingpoint]

this album has been a guilty pleasure for several of my friends, and i can't stand it. i don't understand how people can enjoy this nonsense.

[derian2219]

I liked the record, but it was average in my opinion as well. Great review though Blake.

[Protested Hero]

I really don't get all of the hate this band is getting. Some of the songs instrumentally could be straight out of a FYS or NFG song, yet because it's ADTR people shit all over it. I'm really liking this, as I did their previous effort.

[elmakias]

this album is badass

[fftsjason]

i like the album. i guess i got what i expected from this band though, more of the same. i like what they had to offer and sometimes i like it when bands to necessarily change it up for their follow up. now, if they release yet another album like this, then i might have issues with it. for now, it was what i expected. the last song on the record is great, and definitely a different venture for them song writing wise.

[cscwell107]

I really like this album. It definitely didn't deserve this low of a rating. It isn't a groundbreaking release but it is sure as hell a lot of fun to listen to.

[applesandcyanid]

This review was bad.

[Pants88]

Can't say I agree with this at all, I think they've expanded there sound a fair bit, theres a lot of different instrumentation in the background, the songs are structured a hell of a lot better than the first couple of albums, the breakdowns bar a few are a lot less....'obvious' the pop parts are a hell of a lot catchier, It will be interesting to see where they go next.

[pdefra2]

i would have to say that review was a bit harsh....respectable due to the fact there were very well backed up points throughout the entire thing but in my own personal opinion i feel that through all the skepticism ADTR has hit the nail on the head of what good song structure is both for those who have heart and homesick follow the same structure which could be a bore to most but WORKS......after listening to any song on either of those 2 albums it is hard to not catch your singing along and/or getiing "amped" as the reviewer put so frankly at some of the breakdowns.....i feel that ADTRs knack for writing short fast and often intense songs that are perfect for the ADD attention span most listeners have today .....they found their sound took it and ran and although repetitive and even though i might get crucified for this referance but have a certain consitancy in their music comparable to that of bands such as Slayer and H20 ......they found their structure and their sound that works and kept releasing great songs which didnt really stray from the typical nature of their earlier efforts


i hope my counterpoint made sense feedback would be great !

[Romancebled]

i pretty much agree with the review. this album was decent, but had no lasting value at all. i stopped listening to it after about a week.

[killbrand.com]

I really like this album a lot, better then there previous 2. It's a little repetitive but not as much as the new Underoath album...

[xdylanx]

worst band

[jtyexists9]

Ouch, I heard this album and Blake is right. ADTR failed miserably.

[Seancore]

i like it, and i hate all the other popmosh whatever bands.

this is a definite improvement from their last album and i think it has more lasting value (as long as all my friends who wear flat bill hats dont play it excessively when i'm in the car)

sure this isn't a life changing album or anything but it's a fun cd that if i was 15 again it would remind me of all those grls in science class or just riding around with friends singing every word (like blink or nfg did in my day) i dunno maybe in 5 years i can listen to it and it may remind me of all my tour memories.

[jay_klinkhammer]

This album is easily their best.


This is why critics suck dick.

[Klatzke]

This album is easily their best.


This is why critics suck dick.
Being a prick because he dislikes on one of your favorites doesn't solve anything.

That's why you're useless.

[hurley2217]

I like the record and I'm with some of the folks on here about how ADTR don't get credit when they're good at what they do. Come on blake, 48%? That's just stupid.Bands like Metro Station and ATL and Cobra Starship get better scores than a 48% and they are complete garbage.

[Nick Le]

I really really loved this record.

[mikehranica]

terrible review.

i can respect everyone's opinion about music and bands, but to say this record sounds the same or is repetitive makes me think the listener WANTS to hear a crappy album.

i think Homesick is awesome, although i can admit FTWHH blended pop punk and hardcore/breakdowns a little bit better. I highly recommend this record and i confidently admit that this is a good step for ADTR.

[BlinkNFG15]

the review is pretty much dead on, but I happen to enjoy the album allbeit that I fully understand what I'm getting myself into when I put it on. I know they are never likely to do anything ground breaking so I just figure might as well enjoy it for what its worth.

[puhrnj]

i mean they are decent at what they do....
but come on,

they need some better lyrics....'I said I'd never let you go' how many times has that line and a hundred others been used before...

[EndSerenading]

terrible review.

i can respect everyone's opinion about music and bands, but to say this record sounds the same or is repetitive makes me think the listener WANTS to hear a crappy album..

can you restate that maybe? wasnt quite sure what you are going for there. And whether you like it or not it is repetitive. You can take it as a good thing or a bad thing 1) they are good at what they do and that is keeping it very simple with mixing pop and mosh elements to try and do something catchy or 2) get bored because mixing pop and mosh is not your thing and thats 99% of the record. Either way most of the record follows the exact same formula, you cant deny that.

[biggwillys]

terrible review.

i can respect everyone's opinion about music and bands, but to say this record sounds the same or is repetitive makes me think the listener WANTS to hear a crappy album.

i think Homesick is awesome, although i can admit FTWHH blended pop punk and hardcore/breakdowns a little bit better. I highly recommend this record and i confidently admit that this is a good step for ADTR.
I agree with Mike on this one. This review is real shitty. It sounds like Blake wrote the band off before he even put the record on. It took me a couple listens to get into this record, but now I love it. I think its a great addition to the ADTR catalog.

[Beej 347]

this band is one of those bands that ive liked a few songs from as a guilty pleasure because they had some catchiness to them, but as a whole they are a gimmick band that is not doing anything new at all.
how in the hell are they a gimmick? look at brokencyde and millionaires...

[sidekicksuicide]

to tell you the truth, I don't hear much difference between their version of "pop punk/hardcore" and screamo music from a couple years ago.

[EndSerenading]

ive listened to it probably 4,5 times all the way through with friends on some out of town trips over the last 2 weekends. Ive definitely heard worse but its nothing more than mediocre to me. And I think people need to stop getting so defensive over the score. Based on Blake's philosophy this record scored pretty average, not terrible or anything.

[EndSerenading]

how in the hell are they a gimmick? look at brokencyde and millionaires...
Well of course brokencyde and millionaires are complete gimmicks and terrible (much much worse than ADTR)..im not really sure where you were going with that post because I agree that those 2 bands are absolutely horrendous, but ADTR to me is still gimmicky

[Mirrorsandfevers]

Good review. This is my friend's album of the year so far haha.

[andrewshungry]

too harsh

[paulfisherisemo]

Terrible review, this band must be doing something right, the numbers don't lie.
:)

See you around

[Beej 347]

i love this album to death because i can relate to a few of the songs, mostly "if it means a lot to you" such a beautiful song, but those ''la las" kinda bug me

[Alex DiVincenzo]

I think the score's a little -- I won't say unfair, because it's how you feel -- but too low given the positives you pointed out. I fully understand wanting the band to mix things up, but I don't see why you'd expect anything different after two redundant (but enjoyable) full lengths already. I think the band, however unoriginal or monotonous they may be, is enjoyable for what they do.

[ohh lee]

Awh man, I really wanted this record to be good.

[mikehranica]

can you restate that maybe? wasnt quite sure what you are going for there. And whether you like it or not it is repetitive. You can take it as a good thing or a bad thing 1) they are good at what they do and that is keeping it very simple with mixing pop and mosh elements to try and do something catchy or 2) get bored because mixing pop and mosh is not your thing and thats 99% of the record. Either way most of the record follows the exact same formula, you cant deny that.
i know what you mean, the songs are by formula and that's something that i liked better about FTWHH.

i don't think the songs are repetitive because each chorus gets in my head, a number of the breakdowns give me goosebumps, and when i listen through the album, i don't think the songs blend together. i assume you don't enjoy the parts like I do, which is why you focus on the formula, which obviously invokes repetition. that's fine, i understand, and i boldly repsect that. for me, though, like FTWHH, each song offers something special. that something special is probably just a catchy melody or very angry breakdown, but i still think the songs are great and together they create an excellent record. a record miles above today's usual trash.

i'm not trying to argue, obviously you really know what you're talking about and can intellectually present your opinion. i'm just trying to say that i love these dudes and their tunes, and i think Homesick IS beyond mediocre. i don't think it's gimmicky because with a few more years on their back, ADTR may sit amongst the ranks of pop punk legends like NFG.

[bblinkn182]

i got into this band a few years ago and really loved them but it got kind of old. all of the songs started to sound the same. i have given the new record a chance a few different times and still cant honestly get into it. however i do have to admit they have a very very solid live show and i will probably go to the CD release show either way.

[Travis Parno]

nice work, blake, as usual!

[2hxc4you]

Bayside is a talented band that will last and ADTR is generic scenecore that has no lasting value. While it is true Bayside has a similar sound for all four albums they are still great albums. Bayside has actual fans but ADTR mainly has casual listeners waiting for the next trendy sound
you my friend are very wrong.

[thedullard]

i think you were way too out there with this review man. this record in difference from ftwhh is way heavier, they even drop tuning, and has way more atmosphere and time and rhythmic change than their prior work. "the fierceness" of ftwhh? pfff, this record pummels that one with the energy. i enjoy this one more than the rest. i strongly urge all of you to actually listen to this album instead of just reading a review.

[Eurotrash Drock]

my old band played with them 2 summers ago. i didnt believe the hype. and still dont.

[2hxc4you]

well, you are too hardcore for me.

But seriously, it's not the review you hate, it's the opinion. Or did my grammar and punctuation give you cause for hatred? If so, I apologize for jumping to conclusions.
haha, nice shot Blake ... wish i could change my name though, its from '04

I respect your opinion but I do have a problem with the review, it seems very biased.

[2hxc4you]

i think you were way too out there with this review man. this record in difference from ftwhh is way heavier, they even drop tuning, and has way more atmosphere and time and rhythmic change than their prior work. "the fierceness" of ftwhh? pfff, this record pummels that one with the energy. i enjoy this one more than the rest. i strongly urge all of you to actually listen to this album instead of just reading a review.
nice mike.

[I am Mick]

I hate this band, and I agree with most of your review. However, If It Means That Much To You is an awesome song. Im actually listening to it now.

[sargentlgfuad]

i like this album a lot, and i'd give it in the 70's range. but, i can still see where you are coming from, and even though the songs do tend to blend, i still can't stop enjoying them (along with some obvious lyrical problems). i just think they rushed this album.
my personal favorites had to be "The Downfall Of Us All", "I'm Made of Wax, Larry. What Are You Made Of?", and "Holdin' It Down For The Underground". and i was surprised that the girl from VersaEmerge sang differently than she normally does, so not so much Hailey Williams, but still mediocre.

[Blake Solomon]

haha, nice shot Blake ... wish i could change my name though, its from '04

I respect your opinion but I do have a problem with the review, it seems very biased.
haha, sorry, couldn't help myself!

But really, there's no bias like you are thinking, at least not in a derogatory sort of way. I even posted a positive review of Old Record last year: http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=646672

I liked it because it showed where a band was coming from. But for the band to still be in that same place so many years later is a problem for me.

[Drew Beringer]

news flash: all reviews are biased.

[punkrockmedic]

I love how when bayside doesn't change their sound they get praise, but a band like this gets shit on.

I enjoyed the album for what it was, but I don't see the album getting much play on my Ipod as soon as the new NFG and Fireworks come out.
Exactly. If they're good at it. Let them be good at it. They put on a sick show anyway! I think Jeremy's screams have gotten deeper though.

[2hxc4you]

haha, sorry, couldn't help myself!

But really, there's no bias like you are thinking, at least not in a derogatory sort of way. I even posted a positive review of Old Record last year: http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=646672

I liked it because it showed where a band was coming from. But for the band to still be in that same place so many years later is a problem for me.
yea, id take a shot at the name too if someone else had it, i hate it.

like i said I respect your opinion and if there is nothing bias, then hey, its how you feel. I understand your reasoning behind the review, and even tho I dont agree, its your review. As many people have said before, to each their own.

[albertofernande]

The Downfall Of Us All
If It Means A Lot To You

best songs

[iseejosh]

i don't really hear the similarity between those two, at least not as much as Have Faith In Me and Anthem Part 2.
just listen to the first like 15 seconds of each song...virtually the same song

[albertofernande]

The breakdowns are good, the melodies are sweet,solid and catchy and bla bla bla

[nick[LA]]

FTWHH is definitely their best album...by far. I really like FTWHH so I was excited for this but I feel this album has its parts maybe even its songs but its nothing amazing.

I don't really understand why people expect or really want bands to change their sound for each record...don't you like the band for their sound in the first place why do you want them to change into something that will most likely be worse...

this album at least deserves a 50% lolllllllllllllll

[Brandon Allin]

I have a stinging feeling I will love this record.

[Chemical Love]

I enjoy this album for what it is - fun, cheesy, hxc pop punk.

[cobja94]

i've already heard the album, and its great.

[mht]

score should be lower because this band is terrible. kids who think this is good music have awful taste. blake, your review is good but the score should be lower. also, this band is not even close to the hardcore genre or have any elements of hardcore in their music by any stretch of the imagination.

[trappedintime]

"I won’t lie: at first, I was content. I even posted in the forums that I thought this was ADTR’s best record. Turns out I was on iTunes Shuffle and a song from FTWHH was playing. Oops. My bad."

OUCH! That had to hurt.
Honestly, I never gave a crap about ADTR, but I had high hopes for this record.
Won't be buying...

[Tyler Vagyler]

i guess its just dependent on what it is relative too. yes on this site a 48% seems fairly low but you have to remember that there are multiple people reviewing things on here. Also, I posted this in another thread and I think it might be worth reposting:

"On a scale of 1-10, 5 should always be the point of reference (average, worth checking out but nothing ground breaking) but if anyone gives a record a 5 or 6 on here people assume it sucks which doesnt make much sense. I mean I consider 6 a solid score - the album is above average which is a compliment. Small gripe I know, but thats how it goes. This is how I alloted scores:

5 decent/average
6 good/above average
7 very good
8 great
9 nearly perfect
10 perfect (extremely rare of course)"

To me, a 48% means it was just slightly below average which to me snychs up with his review quite appropriately. catchy, sometimes fun, sometimes repetitive and certainly nothing new or musically challenging = mediocre/average record. I think his score fits with his opinion.

Personally I have to admit that some of the stuff is catchy, but the band sounds like a one trick pony/gimmick exploiter to me with every song and album sounding SOOOOOO similar and to go with that, their style is very very dumbed down and simple to begin with. If I was reviewing it I would have given it a 5.
Yeah, I see what you mean. Good point.

But the review was still harsh as far as the content. It was almost like he was bashing the band for playing a certain style of music.

[SanePsychotic]

Your reviews are always an entertaining read - good work. As for the record it was so-so, but I know people who would be all over this in a heartbeat.

[shhxjustwhisper]

Nooo! Don't listen to that. I have this cd already and it is GREAT!!!! Buy it! I'm pretty sure you won't regret it!

[hiya]

I disagree with you. I found the album to be enjoyable the whole way through and will be buying it when it comes out next week. It's nice that even though they don't stick to one specific sound, all the songs they come out with are still done right and high quality. They are good at what they do and these songs constantly stick in one's head. Yes their previous 2 albums may be slightly superior, but I feel Homesick is just as good.

[ship of fools]

I like this record a lot, but I will never take it seriously.

[rollerman4221]

Honestly I can say i enjoy the album. One of the main reason's is I am totally stoked to hear these songs live. Being at the ripe old age of 18 I find myself enjoying SYG and FYS and shows of that energy, although I love Mae to death I have trouble standing there and just listening to people play music (beautiful music) for an hour or so. I would much rather sing and move around to Hit the Lights or Devil Wears Prada. No doubt one day I will get into Radiohead and more mellow bands, but for me right now, im looking for the mosh, lookin for the singalongs, looking for the energy. And ADTR brings all that with every show I've seen them (6) and I am super stocked to see them in 2 months.

[LilRyan732]

Reviewer needs to fuck off and grow some balls.

[lightcollapse]

Mr. Highway's Looking for the End is the best song, fucking rules.

[superBMRuth]

i really liked this album although i do agree that the genre is getting old/stale and they should be more experimental. but hey, they are what they are. this music is about being silly and having fun, so i find it hard to criticize.

[superBMRuth]

DISRESPECT YOUR SURROUNDINGS!!!








lol

[realt]

i thought the album was decent. i like FTWHH so i think its an ok cd (granted its very similar though)

not the best cd ever but its not the worst cd ever either.

if it comes on during shuffle i wont skip it right away is what im trying to say

[NortyCore]

why change whats really good? their catchy, their heavy at times. best of both worlds. they do what they do very well. its a very solid cd, a definite step up from FTWHH.

[YouSmellExcited]

doesn't sound like a "filler" album to me. just a fun record to blast all summer long. "Have Faith In Me" and the last song are pretty awesome..as well as the opening song

[andrewa5]

100% DISAGREE, i have the album and ive heard all the tracks and its a REALLY solid album!

[Jake Denning]

I downloaded the leak, and I couldnt believe they had outdone Heart with 1 spin.

The CD is great, and I have pre-ordered it.

[iamj]

Blake, could you give me some examples of songs that are so similar that you would give this record a 48%? I don't see where you're coming from at all. This album has 7 songs that are mainly just singing, which is a HUGE difference from their past records. A band's formula is what makes them sound like them. So you're saying you hate this cd 'cause it sounds like an A Day To Remember record? The heavy songs are heavier, and the the entire record is catchier. I just don't see how being in a similar place years down the road is a good argument for a bad review. I see plenty of difference in these records. They are a pop band that plays heavy parts. Most pop music has a pretty consistent formula. So, judging by what you're saying here all pop bands' cds are 48% in your opinion? Formulas are what being in a pop band is all about. I'm stoked to see how you handle NFG's new record.

[tommy413]

i mean, give it a shot at least. For me though, this record truly showed the limitations of this genre. I have over 30 songs of this band on my itunes and they all sound more or less the same. You know? It's hard to justify spending money on something you pretty much already have.
You refer to a band you obviously do not enjoy do describe the limitations of a genre? Hmm..

[Lemmi!]

Albums still good, still buying it

nice review to look at tho
:-)

[gibsonman246]

i think a change in sound was not necessary and would have probably hurt the band. they are getting to be really well known. their sound is working, and their fans want a continuation of it. i think they are going to blow up this year within the scene.

but i think it is unfair that you failed to mention a slight difference in the general tone of this album compared to FTWHH. whereas FTWHH consisted of songs that all had a heavy over tone, yet catchy parts, homesick has almost two parts to it. it has a bunch of songs that are more pop-punk than the last record, written in major keys but still have breakdowns, and then there are songs that are way heavier than than FTWHH (see mr highway, welcome to the family, and you already know). the songs vary in tuning and overall, each song stands out on its own, more so than the songs of the last record

[jbrianw]

fuck this review. I have a copy of this cd and its by far the best mix of pop/punk and hardcore ive ever heard. Homesick is the best release i have heard in a very very long time

bottom line: awesome cd.

[KillyourIdols88]

I love this album, does sound the same but fuck it.

[batmannj]

i mean, give it a shot at least. For me though, this record truly showed the limitations of this genre. I have over 30 songs of this band on my itunes and they all sound more or less the same. You know? It's hard to justify spending money on something you pretty much already have.
couldnt agree with you more man. the review, while you may not have liked it, was spot on with what the record is. i like it quite a bit, and i think you did a great job.

plus, this thread is full of fail with all the "FECK YOU i like it d00d. there albums r soo gud.

[shwaz499]

am i the only person that thinks welcome to the family is a kick ass song?

[dougburns2death]

i got the leaked version of this and i must say i enjoy it.
altough i do agree with parts of this review, the album has some strong points. its not a disappointment.
it has alot "poppier" feel to it and that may turn some off
but you can't deny the fact that when you hear "DISRESPECT YOUR SURROUNDINGS!" you wanna kick ass
just my opinion.

-doug

[deadwrong188]

honestly i thought this album was way different from their older albums. as they said, they got both lighter and heavier. the only thing i dont like is that my favorite track from the album is the intro song. pretty good album though.

[benn10]

I disagree with your review, as I do with most of your reviews. But hey, it's my fault that I'm reading them, haha.

[Blake Solomon]

i think a change in sound was not necessary and would have probably hurt the band. they are getting to be really well known. their sound is working, and their fans want a continuation of it. i think they are going to blow up this year within the scene.

but i think it is unfair that you failed to mention a slight difference in the general tone of this album compared to FTWHH. whereas FTWHH consisted of songs that all had a heavy over tone, yet catchy parts, homesick has almost two parts to it. it has a bunch of songs that are more pop-punk than the last record, written in major keys but still have breakdowns, and then there are songs that are way heavier than than FTWHH (see mr highway, welcome to the family, and you already know). the songs vary in tuning and overall, each song stands out on its own, more so than the songs of the last record
i did mention the slight slight changes in tone/mood. I said that the prior album was bit "creepier"/"fiercer" in comparison to this album's poppier, sunnier feel.

[Blake Solomon]

I disagree with your review, as I do with most of your reviews. But hey, it's my fault that I'm reading them, haha.
what would happen if we agreed on a review for once? Should you be embarrassed or should I?

[Jason Tate]

fuck this review. I have a copy of this cd and its by far the best mix of pop/punk and hardcore ive ever heard. Homesick is the best release i have heard in a very very long time

bottom line: awesome cd.
Ever?

[rockilledisco]

Blake, have you ever been on tour? Ever?

[iamj]

what would happen if we agreed on a review for once? Should you be embarrassed or should I?
1. It's "here's to another banner year". If this is an attempt at mocking them do your research.

2. Answer me. I would greatly appreciate it.

[rosswrestler62]

I love homesick. It's a great cd. People hate that they sound similar to their older stuff but so does every other band. They are not some damn generic band. What are some bands out there that changed what they usually sound like and did a really good job? just curious. I don't think they need to change

[crazytoledo]

Well I wear shorts to shows and kids get hit at all the shows I'm at and we fight kids who start shit with us (then again, a lot of it's brought on by other kids and we just stick up for each other but that's a different story)...so I guess it's no surprise to you I like this.


Hah, to each their own. For one kid who likes a bunch of breakdowns, you have a kid who only likes guitar solos and that kid who just likes rap and of course the kid who listens to classical music.

If you don't like it I guess it's your own opinion, but for kids that are into this kind of music, it's exactly what they want and are/were expecting.

[werealldudes19]

though i like the record
i've said countless times to my friends that it all sounds the same and they tried too hard to be adtr on the cd
it comes off like they almost ripped themselves off trying to be too pop and too hXc

[Jason Tate]

I love homesick. It's a great cd. People hate that they sound similar to their older stuff but so does every other band. They are not some damn generic band. What are some bands out there that changed what they usually sound like and did a really good job? just curious. I don't think they need to change
Brand New, Saves the Day, Thrice, Radiohead, The Format, The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Bright Eyes, Gatsbys American Dream ... and plenty of others.

It'd be swell if people could write responses that actually explained why they liked the CD -- compared to just talking shit about the review/reviewer. Everyone has different opinions, there's nothing wrong with that ... I don't think anyone should expect different.

[benn10]

what would happen if we agreed on a review for once? Should you be embarrassed or should I?

After reading your Killers review, I don't think there's the slightest possibility of that ever happening, broseph.

[Big_Guy]

honestly, if they would cut out the breakdowns and awful cookie monster growls, this band would be a bit better.

I think the dude has a good voice, he just ruins the potential with this shitass growl.

[Just An End]

While I agree with the review in that the album isn't a step forward at all from their last album, I feel the reviews on this site are becoming more of a stage for jokes to be made than for someone to actually review music.. I just read Blake's review of Old Record that he posted a link to and that just backed what I thought even more

[Jason Tate]

While I agree with the review in that the album isn't a step forward at all from their last album, I feel the reviews on this site are becoming more of a stage for jokes to be made than for someone to actually review music.. I just read Blake's review of Old Record that he posted a link to and that just backed what I thought even more
With over three thousand reviews on this site -- and you pick 2 reviews from the same author to make that claim? :eyebrow:

[benn10]

With over three thousand reviews on this site -- and you pick 2 reviews from the same author to make that claim? :eyebrow:

Add his "Day and Age" excuse of a review, and that makes 3.

[LongDistanceDrunk]

i know what you mean, the songs are by formula and that's something that i liked better about FTWHH.

i'm not trying to argue, obviously you really know what you're talking about and can intellectually present your opinion. i'm just trying to say that i love these dudes and their tunes, and i think Homesick IS beyond mediocre. i don't think it's gimmicky because with a few more years on their back, ADTR may sit amongst the ranks of pop punk legends like NFG.
Wow that sounds silly because they are gimmicky. ATDR will never reach the legendary status and NFG has. NFG is highly infulential but ADTR is clearly not. ATDR is just a trendy band that won't last

[Jason Tate]

Add his "Day and Age" excuse of a review, and that makes 3.
That album was a joke. It deserved a joke of a review.

[benn10]

That album was a joke. It deserved a joke of a review.

Lolz. Not according to Rolling Stone or the sales charts.

[rockilledisco]

With over three thousand reviews on this site -- and you pick 2 reviews from the same author to make that claim? :eyebrow:
jason, it seems to me that ap.net has become more or less a popularity contest where every brand new, valencia and jacks mannequin album gets a 98% and where every victory records album gets a <50%.

you always defend the people who posts reviews on this site? why is that? nobody on your staff ever writes a bad review?

as far as this genre goes, in my opinion, this album is phenomenal...

[gr3gxxx]

personally, i liked it a lot. haha maybe its just because i listen to a lot of four year strong, but i think ADTR actually has changed their sound, a lot - on FTWHH, they really used minor chords and basic metal riffs, but on this album, it feels like they focused a lot more on their pop punk side and created a whole different sound.
i'll admit, im a sucker for a "br00t4l" breakdown, but ADTR is one of few bands who can fit such a sick breakdown into a really poppy song. so - maybe its just me, but i'm a pretty big fan of this record.

[Just An End]

With over three thousand reviews on this site -- and you pick 2 reviews from the same author to make that claim? :eyebrow:
I'm just saying the last few reviews I've read seemed to lay the 'wit' factor on a little too thick.. reading these last two reviews (the only ones I've read today and the first ones I've read in some time) just reminded me of that.. I honestly felt like I was reading someone's attempt at humor more than I was reading someone's opinion of music.. if it makes you happy I'll just say that it applies to those two reviews, but I've definitely read others that made me think the same thing.. I've also read other reviews that I thought were great and really explained the music well.. the one Lydia review I read comes to mind

[Just An End]

Wow that sounds silly because they are gimmicky. ATDR will never reach the legendary status and NFG has. NFG is highly infulential but ADTR is clearly not. ATDR is just a trendy band that won't last
It hurts me to see someone compare ADTR to NFG

[Jason Tate]

Lolz. Not according to Rolling Stone or the sales charts.
Well,I think Rolling Stone rarely writes anything worth reading, so that means nothing to me, and sales charts mean nothing about the quality of an album.

jason, it seems to me that ap.net has become more or less a popularity contest where every brand new, valencia and jacks mannequin album gets a 98% and where every victory records album gets a <50%.
Neither of those albums got a 98%. And maybe it's because most of the albums Victory releases -- the reviewers don't like. If Victory Records released an album of 98% quality - I am sure they'd get that rating. However, right now - they're not.

you always defend the people who posts reviews on this site? why is that? nobody on your staff ever writes a bad review?
They did nothing wrong -- he expressed his thoughts on an album in his style of writing. How could I say that's a bad review? It's his thoughts, his words. He's entitled to them.

as far as this genre goes, in my opinion, this album is phenomenal...
No one is saying you can't have that opinion. I would disagree.

I'm just saying the last few reviews I've read seemed to lay the 'wit' factor on a little too thick.. reading these last two reviews (the only ones I've read today and the first ones I've read in some time) just reminded me of that.. I honestly felt like I was reading someone's attempt at humor more than I was reading someone's opinion of music.. if it makes you happy I'll just say that it applies to those two reviews, but I've definitely read others that made me think the same thing.. I've also read other reviews that I thought were great and really explained the music well.. the one Lydia review I read comes to mind
Are you only reading Blake's reviews? Because he has a very unique style/voice in his reviews. However, most of the reviewers here don't write like that. That's what happens when you have a wide range of people writing album reviews. That's why I've always assumed people would follow their favorite writers with similar tastes -- instead of assuming every single person that writes a review is going to feel the same.

[saysmydoctor]

You do all realize you can still purchase the CD. Blake's review does not alter whatever enjoyment you had over this shitty album.

[Drew Beringer]

I can't wait to see these kids rip me apart for my Two Tongues review.

[benn10]

You do all realize you can still purchase the CD. Blake's review does not alter whatever enjoyment you had over this shitty album.

*cough* douchebag *cough*

[YouthMovement]

I really feel as though this album deserved a better score, but not by much. Maybe in the 60's. It's definitely the weakest they've put out yet, and it did go in a pretty predictable direction, but it's a respectable tide-me-over until some of the bigger releases of the year hit, like NFG. As is the case with most bands' releases, the majority of the muscle is crammed into tracks 1-3, and then the foundation seems to fall out. With that being said, I really enjoy "If It Means Alot to You". I will say, however, that it is far too produced and would've really benefited from a more raw sound.

If there's one thing this album did above average that my ears caught onto, it's that the majority of the songs on the CD seem to fit the title Homesick - there's a whole lot on this disc about being away from home, touring your guts out, and making it to the forefront of the "scene". This record is definitely sub-par and will only reach the "Top 10" lists of those with a limited musical pallet, but it's not entirely worthless.

With that being said, kudos on a great review Mr. Solomon, I don't think you missed the mark too badly and your idea of where the "mark" is is most likely far more informed than mine anyway.

I think people need to realize that a Reviewer Score is not an official, God-given stamp of quality, but rather just a respected opinion. To all those out there who wanna give this an A+, you would catch just as much flack if you posted your view, so realize that it's miniscule in the grand scheme of things and hit the pretty little 'X' in the corner.

[Chris Fallon]

Blake's review is well-written, honest and spot on. People getting bent out of shape may not agree, however that doesn't make his words trivial. He said some reassuring things and did it in Blake style -- cool your jets and re-read the review without any bias of your own. It really does make a difference.

[I am Mick]

lol I can't believe your getting shit for this review. It's, for the most part, spot on.

[rockilledisco]

Well,I think Rolling Stone rarely writes anything worth reading, so that means nothing to me, and sales charts mean nothing about the quality of an album.


Neither of those albums got a 98%. And maybe it's because most of the albums Victory releases -- the reviewers don't like. If Victory Records released an album of 98% quality - I am sure they'd get that rating. However, right now - they're not.


They did nothing wrong -- he expressed his thoughts on an album in his style of writing. How could I say that's a bad review? It's his thoughts, his words. He's entitled to them.


No one is saying you can't have that opinion. I would disagree.


Are you only reading Blake's reviews? Because he has a very unique style/voice in his reviews. However, most of the reviewers here don't write like that. That's what happens when you have a wide range of people writing album reviews. That's why I've always assumed people would follow their favorite writers with similar tastes -- instead of assuming every single person that writes a review is going to feel the same.
dude, a majority of your responses always involve a "you're mistaken" type statement. obv i know those albums didn't get EXACLTY a 98% BUT i can assure you they got >85% easily.

i'm thinking the staffers at ap could be getting out-dated. you've got over 182 responses at this present moment on this particular album review, a majority of them positive and you're still trying to convince everybody this album sucks .

to say he did nothing wrong i think would be a mistake, subconsciously all your staffers send out the vibe, yo "hxc sucks" (which in my opinion a hugeeeeee majority of it does) but to diminsh this particular albums value in the over-all landscape of hxc would be a mistake as well.

MAYBE, you guys should just tell everybody to listen to lydia, JM, valencia and old school midtown, while watching the dark knight 400x a day and having a debate on if "the scene" is dead or not, oh and don't forget to shit-talk victory in the process! i mean it would save the hassle of writing reviews every week suggesting it instead

[I am Mick]

ps. I just read on Jonathon's twitter that somebody from the band called and bitched him out. Hilarious, makes me respect them even less.

[Chris Fallon]

dude, a majority of your responses always involve a "you're mistaken" type statement. obv i know those albums didn't get EXACLTY a 98% BUT i can assure you they got >85% easily.

i'm thinking the staffers at ap could be getting out-dated. you've got over 182 responses at this present moment on this particular album review, a majority of them positive and you're still trying to convince everybody this album sucks .

to say he did nothing wrong i think would be a mistake, subconsciously all your staffers send out the vibe, yo "hxc sucks" (which in my opinion a hugeeeeee majority of it does) but to diminsh this particular albums value in the over-all landscape of hxc would be a mistake as well.

MAYBE, you guys should just tell everybody to listen to lydia, JM, valencia and old school midtown, while watching the dark knight 400x a day and having a debate on if "the scene" is dead or not, oh and don't forget to shit-talk victory in the process! i mean it would save the hassle of writing reviews every week suggesting it instead
Maybe it's not us who are outdated. Maybe it's the music. I don't really see any point to your argument -- opinion is not fact. You would give this 85%+, Blake did not. You can simply submit your own review of the album if you feel we're just too "outdated."

[iAMhollyood315]

to be honest, i dont think any record ATRD will ever release could protray how fun and entertaining they are live. I love their shows. They could play Plot to Bomb 5 times in a row and i swear the crowd would go just as crazy everytime. At least thats what i think haha.
i don't know what the midwest scene is like but seeing them in upstate ny is crazy. its fun and wild but at the same time they have a lot of those thugy shaved head "hardcore" fucks that start dirty fights. in rochester some scum-bag started throwing fists and attacked security, my friend had to get the kid in a headlock to help security and this type of shit happened in albany too. other than that the put on a good show. I don't like homesick as much as their previous one but you gotta take it for what it is. i thought this review had kind of a snotty vibe to it.

[Beej 347]

I can't wait to see these kids rip me apart for my Two Tongues review.
lawl.

[Julia Conny]

Dear Blake, you're a better writer than most of us. Everyone's just jealous of your sweet sweet wordsmithing.

[Beej 347]

unmastered my ass.

[Jason Tate]

dude, a majority of your responses always involve a "you're mistaken" type statement.
Probably because the majority of people I respond to are mistaken. As you were.

obv i know those albums didn't get EXACLTY a 98% BUT i can assure you they got >85% easily.
There's a big difference between 98% and 85%.

i'm thinking the staffers at ap could be getting out-dated. you've got over 182 responses at this present moment on this particular album review, a majority of them positive and you're still trying to convince everybody this album sucks .
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I never once assumed a staff member was going to have universal mind-meld with every person that read this website. Currently the member score is around 70% for this album ... a pretty average C. Blake thought it was below average. People disagreed. I still fail to see what the issue is? Feel free to write your own review. Bitching about someone feeling differently than you about a CD is a pretty big waste of time.

to say he did nothing wrong i think would be a mistake, subconsciously all your staffers send out the vibe, yo "hxc sucks" (which in my opinion a hugeeeeee majority of it does) but to diminsh this particular albums value in the over-all landscape of hxc would be a mistake as well.
First, this is not hardcore. Second, most of our staff members love hardcore. Third, Blake likes a lot of hardcore and pop bands. He himself said he had the band's entire catalog on his computer and liked their past releases. Lastly, none of this has anything to do with him doing something "wrong."

MAYBE, you guys should just tell everybody to listen to lydia, JM, valencia and old school midtown, while watching the dark knight 400x a day and having a debate on if "the scene" is dead or not, oh and don't forget to shit-talk victory in the process! i mean it would save the hassle of writing reviews every week suggesting it instead
How is that even remotely relevant or productive? The assumption that those are the only albums "us guys" listen to is ridiculous. Pop-punk is huge around here. NFG, Set Your Goals, Four Year Strong -- all have huge followings on this website. Joe DeAndrea absolutely loves this album. Drew likes it as well. Just happens that Blake doesn't. And for some reason you're using that fact to try and take pot shots at me and the entire staff/website? What is the point?

[Anton Djamoos]

The thing I don't get about this whole thing is that Blake is clearly a fan of the band. He likes their music, but criticized this album for lack of progression and variety. That's all. If you disagree, stick it to Blake, show your support and buy the album and enjoy it on your own. Simple enough, right?

[rockilledisco]

Maybe it's not us who are outdated. Maybe it's the music. I don't really see any point to your argument -- opinion is not fact. You would give this 85%+, Blake did not. You can simply submit your own review of the album if you feel we're just too "outdated."
right, because the music isn't drawing kids to shows or selling out nokia theatre in times square...it's you guys.

i never said i would give this a 85%+ or write a zomg 100% in every category fan-boy review. but to strictly focus on the negatives of every victory release and simply hate, you're not helping people out by any means, you're hurting the credibility of this site. in my opinion, but, that's not fact...

[Tyler Vagyler]

dude, a majority of your responses always involve a "you're mistaken" type statement. obv i know those albums didn't get EXACLTY a 98% BUT i can assure you they got >85% easily.

i'm thinking the staffers at ap could be getting out-dated. you've got over 182 responses at this present moment on this particular album review, a majority of them positive and you're still trying to convince everybody this album sucks .

to say he did nothing wrong i think would be a mistake, subconsciously all your staffers send out the vibe, yo "hxc sucks" (which in my opinion a hugeeeeee majority of it does) but to diminsh this particular albums value in the over-all landscape of hxc would be a mistake as well.

MAYBE, you guys should just tell everybody to listen to lydia, JM, valencia and old school midtown, while watching the dark knight 400x a day and having a debate on if "the scene" is dead or not, oh and don't forget to shit-talk victory in the process! i mean it would save the hassle of writing reviews every week suggesting it instead
I have to agree for the most part. There are a select few bands that get praised on this site. And praised is an understatement. But when it comes to bands like ADTR, they are bashed. Just cause they are generic doesn't mean they are a bad band. They play their genre well. They are talented musicians, not the most talented, but still talented. Someone who is biased against a genre should not be writing a review for an album of that genre.

If I were to write a review of a Brand New album and give them 40% and said that they are a terrible band, and that this is a terrible album, I would be shredded to pieces by the majority of staff members and everyone else on here.

There is a huge difference between stating your opinion and what this review did. This was harsh and ignorant. If you have a problem with a certain genre or a certain band, don't go listen to their CD and then tell everyone how bad it was. No one cares hows much you hate ADTR or Victory Records.

[Chris Fallon]

The thing I don't get about this whole thing is that Blake is clearly a fan of the band. He likes their music, but criticized this album for lack of progression and variety. That's all. If you disagree, stick it to Blake, show your support and buy the album and enjoy it on your own. Simple enough, right?
Anton, please write the introduction for my memoirs. You're a smart man, and with your name on the cover, I might be able to get it published.

[Chris Fallon]

right, because the music isn't drawing kids to shows or selling out nokia theatre in times square...it's you guys.

i never said i would give this a 85%+ or write a zomg 100% in every category fan-boy review. but to strictly focus on the negatives of every victory release and simply hate, you're not helping people out by any means, you're hurting the credibility of this site. in my opinion, but, that's not fact...
Lots of music brings people in. Does it mean it's good? Maybe to some, maybe not. You're saying we are outdated for not agreeing with you, which is pompous to say. Like Jason said, if Victory released music worthy of acclaim, it'd be different. Blake has given the last two albums by this band positive reviews, I gave Bayside's last album a positive review -- just because everything else on Victory hasn't been to our several reviewers' liking doesn't mean anything. We don't like a lot of what other labels release... where are you when we give negative reviews to Fearless or Fueled by Ramen?

You may think the credibility is damaged, however others fail to see that logic, since we are continuing to push our stats and bands beg to be featured, reviewed, etc. Obviously we are doing something right, and just because you don't agree at times does not make us any less relevant or out of touch. Like you said, it's your opinion... and that is not fact.

[rockilledisco]

How is that even remotely relevant or productive? The assumption that those are the only albums "us guys" listen to is ridiculous. Pop-punk is huge around here. NFG, Set Your Goals, Four Year Strong -- all have huge followings on this website. Joe DeAndrea absolutely loves this album. Drew likes it as well. Just happens that Blake doesn't. And for some reason you're using that fact to try and take pot shots at me and the entire staff/website? What is the point?

My point is I just find it extremely coincidental that a large majority of victory reviews, end up on the staffers desk who "didn't care for the album."

[EndSerenading]

to be fair, it would get boring if people only reviewed albums they loved - who wants that besides someone who simply wants reassurance that the music they listen to is good? no offense meant at all, but really.

Yes as I stated earlier, most people review albums they at least expect to have a chance to enjoy, and I feel that (based on his few forums posts I have seen and former reviews) this was not a CD that was so far out of his likes that there was no chance he was going to like it. in fact didnt he give positive reviews to this band before???

I still think people are getting too worked up over someone reviewing an album. He reviewed it HONESTLY, and made sound points imo. Honest album reviews arent written to blow smoke up the butts of bands writers like. They are honest reviews of albums they heard. If his initial intent upon hearing the CD was to purposely dislike it and write a bad review, then no i wouldnt support that. But if he simply listened to the CD with the intent to review it then imo all is fair game from 0-100% on the score.

[Jason Tate]

right, because the music isn't drawing kids to shows or selling out nokia theatre in times square...it's you guys.

i never said i would give this a 85%+ or write a zomg 100% in every category fan-boy review. but to strictly focus on the negatives of every victory release and simply hate, you're not helping people out by any means, you're hurting the credibility of this site. in my opinion, but, that's not fact...
If Victory released albums deserving of higher scores, they would get them. And if our writers being truthful to themselves is "hurting their credibility" with the Victory Records fanbase -- that's fine. I don't need to feel credible. I'd rather feel honest.

I have to agree for the most part. There are a select few bands that get praised on this site.
Literally THOUSANDS of bands are praised on this site.

And praised is an understatement. But when it comes to bands like ADTR, they are bashed.
They're not bashed. I've already pointed out 3 different staff members that I personally know like this band. There are probably more.

Just cause they are generic doesn't mean they are a bad band. They play their genre well. They are talented musicians, not the most talented, but still talented. Someone who is biased against a genre should not be writing a review for an album of that genre.
But Blake likes this genre - and likes this band - so this makes no sense.

If I were to write a review of a Brand New album and give them 40% and said that they are a terrible band, and that this is a terrible album, I would be shredded to pieces by the majority of staff members and everyone else on here.
Well, you'd be doing something different than what this review is (because no where does he say they're a terrible band). But what would be the difference between that and what some people are doing to Blake? It would be a contrast of opinions; you're more than welcome to write that review. You can't change what other people like or how they feel about music.

There is a huge difference between stating your opinion and what this review did.
What's the difference?

This was harsh and ignorant.
Lots of opinions are.

If you have a problem with a certain genre or a certain band, don't go listen to their CD and then tell everyone how bad it was. No one cares hows much you hate ADTR or Victory Records.
The reviewer doesn't have a problem with this band or genre. And you obviously care how much he "hates" (which he doesn't) the band. Otherwise you wouldn't be here.

A review is a snapshot of one listener's thoughts on an album. That's it. Stop freaking out.

[benn10]

Mwahahaha I just recieved an "infraction".

[Chris Fallon]

Could someone please point out what exactly Blake wrote that was so "wrong"? I fail to see it.

[smokeanL]

i thoroughly enjoyed reading the last few pages on here. its kinda funny, i actually didnt like their first album at all, with the exception of a few songs. i felt their mix of hardcore/pop punk was just incredibly cheesy. after seeing them live, i checked out their second album and enjoyed it for a few weeks before getting tired of it. i checked out the new album and in my opinion it is their best yet. i feel that they finally got the mix of hardcore/pop punk just right and the album got me 'amped' haha.

[Chris Fallon]

Mwahahaha I just recieved an "infraction".
Quit while you're ahead, pal. Being a nuisance won't help you.

[EndSerenading]

the only thing "wrong" he wrote is the fact that people somehow got personally offended that he didnt enjoy an album as much as them. period. his remarks are honest and true to the album I feel like. Even if I didnt feel the same about the album as him, there is nothing very "out there" about his review. He stated clearly likes and dislikes and gave a score appropriate to the tone of his review.

[Julia Conny]

My point is I just find it extremely coincidental that a large majority of victory reviews, end up on the staffers desk who "didn't care for the album."
And what does that say about Victory?

[benn10]

Quit while you're ahead, pal. Being a nuisance won't help you.

Just sticking up for other people, dude.

[Jason Tate]

My point is I just find it extremely coincidental that a large majority of victory reviews, end up on the staffers desk who "didn't care for the album."
Any staff member is allowed to review whatever album they want within their schedule. Most of Victory Records' albums -- our staff isn't into.

You must not be talking about the 89% review the last ADTR album got from (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=206197) a staff member. Or how Blake rated the last ATDR album he reviewed higher than the users did (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=646672). Or the 87% rating the last Spitalfield album got (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=176794). Care to go look at the Bayside reviews?

But don't let facts get in the way of taking shit about the entire staff and site.

[Joey (J-Train)]

Now i have to say a day to remember is one of my favorite bands but I agree that it sounds like FTWHH pt. 2 and although I did like FTWHH i just felt like they should have gone out of the box a bit i mean 2 years is pretty much enough time to try to write something new. so if you have to buy either Homesick or Two Tongues i'd say two tongues

[Drew Beringer]

My point is I just find it extremely coincidental that a large majority of victory reviews, end up on the staffers desk who "didn't care for the album."
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=554601
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=188309
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=290296
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=181646
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=210181
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=646672
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=267008
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=206197
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=295528
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=212330
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=246549
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=287699
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=249188
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=176794

Victory albums, positive reviews. go fuck yourself

[Chris Fallon]

Ignoring facts is cool.

[benn10]

lmfao. I think I'll stop now, to avoid getting the boot on my account. Funny stuff.

[Tyler Vagyler]

If Victory released albums deserving of higher scores, they would get them. And if our writers being truthful to themselves is "hurting their credibility" with the Victory Records fanbase -- that's fine. I don't need to feel credible. I'd rather feel honest.


Literally THOUSANDS of bands are praised on this site.


They're not bashed. I've already pointed out 3 different staff members that I personally know like this band. There are probably more.


But Blake likes this genre - and likes this band - so this makes no sense.


Well, you'd be doing something different than what this review is (because no where does he say they're a terrible band). But what would be the difference between that and what some people are doing to Blake? It would be a contrast of opinions; you're more than welcome to write that review. You can't change what other people like or how they feel about music.


What's the difference?


Lots of opinions are.


The reviewer doesn't have a problem with this band or genre. And you obviously care how much he "hates" (which he doesn't) the band. Otherwise you wouldn't be here.

A review is a snapshot of one listener's thoughts on an album. That's it. Stop freaking out.
Well, from reading this review it doesn't sound like he was a fan of the band. But if he is, then he is. And I understand that I can't change others opinion just cause I disagree with them. Which is why I rarely even post on here.

I'm not freaking out or anything, I know people have their own opinions. And I don't think Homesick is a ground breaking album by any means. But after reading this it just sounded to me like he had something against the band before he even listened to the CD. But now that you're telling me he didn't, I guess my opinion of the review changes.

[more heart]

Very sure Joe said all the staff was going to like ths record in his blog a while back...

I'll still buy though.

[rockilledisco]

Lots of music brings people in. Does it mean it's good? Maybe to some, maybe not. You're saying we are outdated for not agreeing with you, which is pompous to say. Like Jason said, if Victory released music worthy of acclaim, it'd be different. Blake has given the last two albums by this band positive reviews, I gave Bayside's last album a positive review -- just because everything else on Victory hasn't been to our several reviewers' liking doesn't mean anything. We don't like a lot of what other labels release... where are you when we give negative reviews to Fearless or Fueled by Ramen?

You may think the credibility is damaged, however others fail to see that logic, since we are continuing to push our stats and bands beg to be featured, reviewed, etc. Obviously we are doing something right, and just because you don't agree at times does not make us any less relevant or out of touch. Like you said, it's your opinion... and that is not fact.

lol, i love how you completely diminish the value of selling out a 2,000 cap room. like, "oh yeah, anybody could do that!"

i'm not saying you're out-dated for not agreeing with me, myself, and only me. obv that would be pompous. i'm saying to give no acclaim or acceptance to any band that well, doesn't sound like acceptance is pretty narrow minded. do you guys have wet-dreams about blink 182 re-unions and midtown comebacks vs. giving any kind of acknowledgement to somebody doing something different and doing it well in the present?

the fact that bands have to beg to be featured would only make me assume you get to pick the featured bands? isn't this a "community"?

[Jason Tate]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=554601
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=188309
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=290296
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=181646
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=210181
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=646672
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=267008
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=206197
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=295528
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=212330
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=246549
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=287699
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http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=176794

Victory albums, positive reviews. go fuck yourself
:appl:

[rockilledisco]

10 out of 125+ isn't bad..

[isavedlatin710]

Minor differences aside (keys, melodies, 3 sylable breakdown intros), most songs follow an identical formula and sound virtually the same. But man is it catchy and it sounds like freaking armageddon played through a good sound system.

[Jason Tate]

lol, i love how you completely diminish the value of selling out a 2,000 cap room. like, "oh yeah, anybody could do that!"

i'm not saying you're out-dated for not agreeing with me, myself, and only me. obv that would be pompous. i'm saying to give no acclaim or acceptance to any band that well, doesn't sound like acceptance is pretty narrow minded.
The biggest album I hyped 2 years ago was Four Year Strong. What are you talking about?

do you guys have wet-dreams about blink 182 re-unions and midtown comebacks vs. giving any kind of acknowledgement to somebody doing something different and doing it well in the present?
Just three posts ago you were naming all these bands in the present we like, now you're saying we don't give any bands in the present acknowledgment? Anyone can check out my last.fm -- 90% of what I listen to is "new" and in the "present." So this is just fucking retarded.

[Chris Fallon]

lol, i love how you completely diminish the value of selling out a 2,000 cap room. like, "oh yeah, anybody could do that!"

i'm not saying you're out-dated for not agreeing with me, myself, and only me. obv that would be pompous. i'm saying to give no acclaim or acceptance to any band that well, doesn't sound like acceptance is pretty narrow minded. do you guys have wet-dreams about blink 182 re-unions and midtown comebacks vs. giving any kind of acknowledgement to somebody doing something different and doing it well in the present?

the fact that bands have to beg to be featured would only make me assume you get to pick the featured bands? isn't this a "community"?
Well, way to completely ignore everything we've all said -- yes, generalize us by mentioning blink-182 and Midtown. Bravo. Should I belittle you with references to Aiden and Hawthorne Heights since you adore Victory so much?

You're acting like ADTR is the first band to sell out 2,000 capacity venues -- bands wearing neon with one measly EP to their name can do that. These days, it's not as difficult in this mainstream-driven industry built on making teenagers fork over allowances.

I still don't think you have a full grasp on the fact that this is an opinion and are simply bitter that a band you love is not getting some 4-star review. We aren't Alternative Pres -- we don't just hand out acclaim like they're balloons. Blake obviously put some thought into this. Stop generalizing the site and learn how to reason.

[Jason Tate]

10 out of 125+ isn't bad..
Counting fail.

[saysmydoctor]

*cough* douchebag *cough*
Whoa high school throwback.

[Drew Beringer]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=321589
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=271558
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=491451
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=176666
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=140115
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=136894

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[rockilledisco]

Any staff member is allowed to review whatever album they want within their schedule. Most of Victory Records' albums -- our staff isn't into.

You must not be talking about the 89% review the last ADTR album got from (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=206197) a staff member. Or how Blake rated the last ATDR album he reviewed higher than the users did (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=646672). Or the 87% rating the last Spitalfield album got (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=176794). Care to go look at the Bayside reviews?

But don't let facts get in the way of taking shit about the entire staff and site.


You just said it yourself, having an a majority of your staff that isn't "into" a particular label would lead the reviews to increase in positive responses orrrrr decrease?

[Anton Djamoos]

10 out of 125+ isn't bad..
You act like no one on this site likes Victory Records' bands. As much as I don't agree with the way the label conducts their business at times, to say that we hold a vendetta against their bands is ridiculous. These are all the bands on their current roster that I enjoy:

* 1997
* A Day To Remember
* The Audition
* Bayside
* Between the Buried and Me
* Bury Your Dead
* Catch 22
* Comeback Kid
* Four Letter Lie
* Funeral for a Friend
* Hawthorne Heights
* The Scenic
* Secret Lives of the Freemasons
* Silverstein
* The Sleeping
* Streetlight Manifesto

To say that the reviewers hold some sort of grudge against bands for being on that label is ridiculous, as evidenced by Drew's list of reviews above. We get slammed for having reviewers go too easy on certain albums that deserve to score lower and slammed for having reviewers say exactly what they think about the album, even when it's negative. Forgive me if I don't want to buy into what you're selling in your accusatory statements.

[Jason Tate]

You just said it yourself, having an a majority of your staff that isn't "into" a particular label would lead the reviews to increase in positive responses orrrrr decrease?
I didn't say they weren't into the label ... I said "Most of Victory Records' albums -- our staff isn't into" -- you can't just put words in my mouth. As has already been pointed out to you -- there are more positive reviews for Victory bands than negative in our review database by staff members.

[EndSerenading]

You just said it yourself, having an a majority of your staff that isn't "into" a particular label would lead the reviews to increase in positive responses orrrrr decrease?
should he start screening his staff to make sure they are all victory fans? I dont really get it.

[Blake Solomon]

You just said it yourself, having an a majority of your staff that isn't "into" a particular label would lead the reviews to increase in positive responses orrrrr decrease?
I like ADTR. I tend to like this style. I went to their show with FYS, Crime in Stereo and NFG (though i left before NFG played, long story). Thus, I paid them money, money that my forefathers spent years and years digging up during the last gold rush. We're old money, but we're just like everyone else, so don't judge us.

In any event, it's perfectly within my rights not to like this record.

[crazytoledo]

Did Blake just write a review and not mention the one song everyone who has this is talking about?

Lol just wondering how that happened but yeah, I find it funny now when people give shit to people who hate a band. Because bashing on them won't make them like it, a bad review won't make you hate it and you come off as a dick if you try starting shit with reviewers cause you thought a CD was good and they didn't.

[Chris Fallon]

Why is this all about Victory in particular? Are they the only label we tend to dislike? I know when it comes to band rosters, Victory has more bands I like over bands I dislike. A better argument would be calling us out on label bias, not one label bias.

[Blake Solomon]

Well, from reading this review it doesn't sound like he was a fan of the band. But if he is, then he is. And I understand that I can't change others opinion just cause I disagree with them. Which is why I rarely even post on here.

I'm not freaking out or anything, I know people have their own opinions. And I don't think Homesick is a ground breaking album by any means. But after reading this it just sounded to me like he had something against the band before he even listened to the CD. But now that you're telling me he didn't, I guess my opinion of the review changes.
i just posted something you might like to see, but probably won't believe because you know me so well.

WHAT'S MY MIDDLE NAME?

[rockilledisco]

Well, way to completely ignore everything we've all said -- yes, generalize us by mentioning blink-182 and Midtown. Bravo. Should I belittle you with references to Aiden and Hawthorne Heights since you adore Victory so much?

You're acting like ADTR is the first band to sell out 2,000 capacity venues -- bands wearing neon with one measly EP to their name can do that. These days, it's not as difficult in this mainstream-driven industry built on making teenagers fork over allowances.

I still don't think you have a full grasp on the fact that this is an opinion and are simply bitter that a band you love is not getting some 4-star review. We aren't Alternative Pres -- we don't just hand out acclaim like they're balloons. Blake obviously put some thought into this. Stop generalizing the site and learn how to reason.

This whole post is hilarious for a ton of reasons.

1.) i'm not a victory records fan-boy, i don't support the way they treat their bands and a majority of other things about them rub me the wrong way, BUT to not give them the same shot as some of the other labels i think is hurting the community and being bias.

2.) you can belittle me with references to aiden and hawthorne heights, they won't apply...so i wouldn't mind.

3.) those bands should be shot on sight.

4.) i understand that this is an opinion, and i'm not bitter. i just think it's a shitty one...

[Lueda Alia]

I didn't say they weren't into the label ... I said "Most of Victory Records' albums -- our staff isn't into" -- you can't just put words in my mouth. As has already been pointed out to you -- there are more positive reviews for Victory bands than negative in our review database by staff members.
Maybe you should ask people if they like Victory Records and or their bands before you hire them. Just an idea!

[Blake Solomon]

Did Blake just write a review and not mention the one song everyone who has this is talking about?

Lol just wondering how that happened but yeah, I find it funny now when people give shit to people who hate a band. Because bashing on them won't make them like it, a bad review won't make you hate it and you come off as a dick if you try starting shit with reviewers cause you thought a CD was good and they didn't.
which song? the one that sounds like the other ones? I mentioned that one.

[Drew Beringer]

THIS THREAD IS A BATTLEGROUND!

chugga chugga chugga!

[Jason Tate]

This whole post is hilarious for a ton of reasons.

1.) i'm not a victory records fan-boy, i don't support the way they treat their bands and a majority of other things about them rub me the wrong way, BUT to not give them the same shot as some of the other labels i think is hurting the community and being bias.

2.) you can belittle me with references to aiden and hawthorne heights, they won't apply...so i wouldn't mind.

3.) those bands should be shot on sight.

4.) i understand that this is an opinion, and i'm not bitter. i just think it's a shitty one...
1) You've been proved wrong on this point 1-923-012309129831230-1290-12x.

3) That's insane bias. How dare you.

[benn10]

Whoa high school throwback.

=]

[Jason Tate]

Maybe you should ask people if they like Victory Records and or their bands before you hire them. Just an idea!
Hahahaha. Fucking retarded.

[Julia Conny]

This whole post is hilarious for a ton of reasons.

1.) i'm not a victory records fan-boy, i don't support the way they treat their bands and a majority of other things about them rub me the wrong way, BUT to not give them the same shot as some of the other labels i think is hurting the community and being bias.

2.) you can belittle me with references to aiden and hawthorne heights, they won't apply...so i wouldn't mind.

3.) those bands should be shot on sight.

4.) i understand that this is an opinion, and i'm not bitter. i just think it's a shitty one...
When did anyone say that we don't give Victory bands the same shot as other bands on other labels? I like an album if it's good, in my opinion, as do any other staff reviewer. You do get the concept of a review, right?

[rockilledisco]

Why is this all about Victory in particular? Are they the only label we tend to dislike? I know when it comes to band rosters, Victory has more bands I like over bands I dislike. A better argument would be calling us out on label bias, not one label bias.

I like ADTR. I tend to like this style. I went to their show with FYS, Crime in Stereo and NFG (though i left before NFG played, long story). Thus, I paid them money, money that my forefathers spent years and years digging up during the last gold rush. We're old money, but we're just like everyone else, so don't judge us.

In any event, it's perfectly within my rights not to like this record.

but to say this album isn't an improvement over their previous efforts or more similar to their live show, you have to be high?

i mean....that's the only thing that makes sense here.

[Anton Djamoos]

THIS THREAD IS A BATTLEGROUND!

chugga chugga chugga!
PICK IT UP PICK IT UP CHUGGA CHUGGA BOOM BOOM

[muttley]

THIS THREAD IS A BATTLEGROUND!

chugga chugga chugga!
hahahaha

[Chris Fallon]

This whole post is hilarious for a ton of reasons.

1.) i'm not a victory records fan-boy, i don't support the way they treat their bands and a majority of other things about them rub me the wrong way, BUT to not give them the same shot as some of the other labels i think is hurting the community and being bias.

2.) you can belittle me with references to aiden and hawthorne heights, they won't apply...so i wouldn't mind.

3.) those bands should be shot on sight.

4.) i understand that this is an opinion, and i'm not bitter. i just think it's a shitty one...
And I think all of your posts are equally hilarious because you continue to stick up for Victory by name -- they aren't getting any unfair treatment over other labels, as Drew has shown you with several links to positive reviews.

You're the one who dug yourself in a hole -- agree or disagree, you've been accusing us and generalizing us as a site, and that is where the line must be drawn.

[Julia Conny]

Psssh, screw labels. I'm judging a band's album based on their dashing or not-so dashing good looks, and that only. Ok, maybe the thread count on their t-shirts too.

[Blake Solomon]

but to say this album isn't an improvement over their previous efforts or more similar to their live show, you have to be high?

i mean....that's the only thing that makes sense here.
this is an admission of you completely losing the argument, right?

[Chris Fallon]

but to say this album isn't an improvement over their previous efforts or more similar to their live show, you have to be high?

i mean....that's the only thing that makes sense here.
That is an opinion. Your opinion. Not everyone is going to see things the same way you do. You think your way, Blake thinks his.

Ironic, huh?

[Drew Beringer]

fact: Drew Beringer is awesome.

[Blake Solomon]

Psssh, screw labels. I'm judging a band's album based on their dashing or not-so dashing good looks, and that only. Ok, maybe the thread count on their t-shirts too.
shirt glows in the dark: 91% easily