High School Coach fired for not apologizing for 100-0 victory.

[Eric Burt]

NBC5 posted:
The coach of a Texas high school basketball team that beat another team 100-0 was fired Sunday, the same day he sent an e-mail to a newspaper saying he will not apologize "for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity."
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Kyle Queal, the headmaster for Covenant School, said in The Dallas Morning News online edition that he could not answer if the firing was a direct result of coach Micah Grimes' email disagreeing with administrators who called the blowout "shameful."

Queal did not immediately answer phone messages or email from The Associated Press.

On its Web site last week, Covenant, a private Christian school, posted a statement regretting the outcome of its Jan. 13 shutout win over Dallas Academy. "It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened. This clearly does not reflect a Christlike and honorable approach to competition," said the statement, signed by Queal and board chair Todd Doshier.

Grimes, who has been criticized for letting the game get so far out of hand, made it clear in the email Sunday to the newspaper that he does not agree with his school's assessment. The entire statement was also published on his own basketball Web site.

"In response to the statement posted on The Covenant School Web site, I do not agree with the apology or the notion that the Covenant School girls basketball team should feel embarrassed or ashamed," Grimes wrote. "We played the game as it was meant to be played. My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity."

NBC 5's Lindsay Wilcox spoke with Coach Micah Grimes by phone. He would not say if his firing was a direct result of that statement or of the blowout victory on Jan. 13.

A parent who attended the game said Covenant continued to make 3-pointers -- even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.

Covenant was up 59-0 at halftime.

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

There is no mercy rule in girls basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become one-sided. There is, however, "a golden rule" that should have applied in this contest, Edd Burleson, the director of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, said last week. Both schools are members of this association, which oversees private school athletics in Texas.

The story has received national attention, and the Dallas Academy team has been recognized for refusing to give up during the lopsided contest.

Copyright Associated Press / NBC Dallas-Fort Worth


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That is so stupid, I know I wouldn't have apologized......just because my team played better and was more prepared.

[rcrook]

cool story hansel

[raukura]

100-0 lol

[Eric Burt]

100-0 lol

Lol, thats what I thought when I first saw the article.

[NickShep10]

not his fault the opponent sucked, just as much their fault (if not more) than it was his.

[J.C.]

I think there's only so much blame that can be put on the coach. There was obviously a ridiculous talent gap between the two schools. They shouldn't have been playing in the first place.

[Eric Burt]

I think there's only so much blame that can be put on the coach. There was obviously a ridiculous talent gap between the two schools. They shouldn't have been playing in the first place.

I have to agree with your statement.

[preppyak]

I think there's only so much blame that can be put on the coach. There was obviously a ridiculous talent gap between the two schools. They shouldn't have been playing in the first place.This...no excuse for that game to ever occur...there are plenty of mediocre schools in Texas that could have played a school that has half their girls on the b-ball team.
not his fault the opponent sucked, just as much their fault (if not more) than it was his.And the thing I just heard is that they scored 12pts in the 4th quarter, and didn't run a press after the score was 25-0 (in the 1st I assume). So, its not like he was trying to run it up, and, it'd be more embarrassing to that team had they just held the ball and not tried to score at all.

What's amazing is that nobody stepped in and called the game after the 3rd quarter...88-0...there is no dignity in playing that one out

[Tristan Needler]

I'm sick of hearing about this shit. You can't tell your team, "hey, go easy one them, stop trying." That's stupid.

What are you supposed to say? "I'm sorry my girls played basketball in that basketball game?"

[acfrue]

thats not his fault at all, plus i think that it would just humiliate the other team even more if he had apologized.

[andrew4045]

in 6th grade we raped a Montessori academy 79-0 we honestly stood around and tried to let them score. they were just that shitty.

[silentstar1134]

This reminds of this one time when my shitty traveling town baseball team, played an actual serious traveling baseball team. It was a massacre and it was funny as hell. When the kid hit one of our pitchers balls he was like "I'm sorry it was there, I couldn't resist!"...And the coach responded "he won't be playing ever again." LOL He might of just said that to make our shitty team feel better.

[Eric Burt]

This reminds of this one time when my shitty traveling town baseball team, played an actual serious traveling baseball team. It was a massacre and it was funny as hell. When the kid hit one of our pitchers balls he was like "I'm sorry it was there, I couldn't resist!"...And the coach responded "he won't be playing ever again." LOL He might of just said that to make our shitty team feel better.

Lol, wtf. xD

[Tristan Needler]

For some reason whenever I see your user name, I read it as "Eric Butt Hurt."

[matt_1426]

Yeah as long as they weren't pressing the whole game it;s not the coaches fault, and nothing is more frustrating than when your losing and the other team is just passsing the ball around trying to waste time, you just want the ball back and want to score yourself.

[Eric Burt]

Yeah as long as they weren't pressing the whole game it;s not the coaches fault, and nothing is more frustrating than when your losing and the other team is just passsing the ball around trying to waste time, you just want the ball back and want to score yourself.

It happens in every sport, when your losing you get pissed off. My hockey team has alot of people that get pissed off easily, we we're losing a game, and one kid two-handed some kid in the face, lol.

[nfgrox312]

It happens in every sport, when your losing you get pissed off. My hockey team has alot of people that get pissed off easily, we we're losing a game, and one kid two-handed some kid in the face, lol.
Haha hockey's not a sport that is good for the people who lose their temper fast. One of my teammates used his stick as a baseball bat and hit a guy in the face. Luckily he was wearing a cage.

Back to the topic though, I agree that this game never should have happened. There really shouldn't be any apologizing because it's still a game and if you have competitive players you can't ask them to play soft and expect them to later play their hearts out against a really good team.

[deadstar]

No way these teams should have been playing, but to say the coach has no blame is pathetic. The fact the score was an even 100 is very poor sportsmanship. Should not have let the score get so out of control. There is no shot clock in high school.

[iAMhollyood315]

if your blowing the team out of the water, have some repspect and don't shoot to make the score that high. I know during some SU games Jim Boeheim won't let his players take any shots in the last 30 seconds or so in a game out of sportsmanship.

[preppyak]

if your blowing the team out of the water, have some repspect and don't shoot to make the score that high. I know during some SU games Jim Boeheim won't let his players take any shots in the last 30 seconds or so in a game out of sportsmanship.
Completely different...every college team does that when the game is won...would Boeheim tell his players to stop shooting for the entire 4th quarter because they are up 40 points? The obvious answer is no...yet that is what you are asking for. The team DID stop shooting, they scored 12 points in the 4th quarter...probably on wide open layups that you can't just not take without being a complete asshole to the other team. As a competitor, having a team deliberately not score on you is 1000x worse than having a team score 100 on you. Had they done that for the entire 2nd half, the score would have still been 70+ to 0...and people would still be in outrage. The 100 isn't the thing that pisses people off, its the 0, but you can't tell a team to let their opponents score, that's bullshit
No way these teams should have been playing, but to say the coach has no blame is pathetic. The fact the score was an even 100 is very poor sportsmanship. Should not have let the score get so out of control. There is no shot clock in high school.
I would agree...but, they were up 25-0 in the first quarter when they stopped pressing...they put in their subs early on and still were dominating without trying that hard. That level of disparity is impossible to coach and avoid scoring like that...because you're talking about bench players that get 2-3 minutes a game suddenly getting 20 minutes, and they want to prove something to the coach...and now you want them to stand there and do nothing. The coach has some blame for letting it get to above 50, but its small compared to the people who scheduled the game and didn't step in to stop the game when it was clearly over.

There isn't a mercy rule in basketball, but, that doesn't mean you can't use common sense and shorten quarters or leave the clock running.

[bigmike]

How wrong is it that I wish the coach on the winning side should've mocked the other team with a insincere apology and/or the coach that lost should be fired for failing to score a point?

[derekmoyer4]

its complete bullshit that they fired the coach for this. i have been following this story since i heard about it last week. its just sad that the administration is so concerned about the situation. i mean the dallas academy has not won a game in like 4 years. so for one, why were they playing each other. they had to know it would not be close. its a dumb situation made worse by Mr. Queal. trying to find a scapegoat in this situation is very unprofessional. i am much more disappointed with his actions than that of the coach.

[preppyak]

How wrong is it that I wish the coach on the winning side should've mocked the other team with a insincere apology and/or the coach that lost should be fired for failing to score a point?
That was my first thought...you have an 8 girl team of which probably 4 of them don't even like the game that much, but their friends play and its something to do...its a 20 girl school, its borderline impossible to compete with any legitimate team. Add that its not a normal school per say and its students have learning disabilities. I wouldn't fire the coach, but I'd consider firing whoever scheduled the game. You're not building a winning program at that school (winless in last 4 years), so you schedule the easiest teams you can find.

The story here isn't that Covenant are assholes and their coach is a jerk for running up the score...its that I guarantee this isn't the first time a blowout like this has happened, yet there are no rules that make this game end faster, no rules in scheduling that say not to make this game, and the fact that nobody in attendance stood up and said "what the fuck is going on, this game is out of hand, why is it still going on?"

Where was all the outrage during the game? It wasn't there, obviously, and its why I hate sensationalize shit like this

[bigmike]

That was my first thought...you have an 8 girl team of which probably 4 of them don't even like the game that much, but their friends play and its something to do...its a 20 girl school, its borderline impossible to compete with any legitimate team. Add that its not a normal school per say and its students have learning disabilities. I wouldn't fire the coach, but I'd consider firing whoever scheduled the game. You're not building a winning program at that school (winless in last 4 years), so you schedule the easiest teams you can find.

The story here isn't that Covenant are assholes and their coach is a jerk for running up the score...its that I guarantee this isn't the first time a blowout like this has happened, yet there are no rules that make this game end faster, no rules in scheduling that say not to make this game, and the fact that nobody in attendance stood up and said "what the fuck is going on, this game is out of hand, why is it still going on?"

Where was all the outrage during the game? It wasn't there, obviously, and its why I hate sensationalize shit like this
Ohhh. I didn't read the article. That does explain why that team sucked.

Fire the schedulemakers. No one saw this on the docket and went "hmm.... maybe this isn't a good idea." It's like USC scheduling a D3 football team at the Coliseum and then having people getting outraged after the crushing.

[rcrook]

Ohhh. I didn't read the article. That does explain why that team sucked.

Fire the schedulemakers. No one saw this on the docket and went "hmm.... maybe this isn't a good idea." It's like USC scheduling a D3 football team at the Coliseum and then having people getting outraged after the crushing.

i tried to look up the worst college football team in D3 this year and i found this.

Prairie View in 1991 scored only 48 points all season and gave up an average of 56 a game.....WOW

[I'm DC]

The threes and pressing in the last quarter were a little over the top, but I wouldn't give the other team sympathy. They fucking lost 100-0, that's their fault

[deadstar]

All I'm saying is if I'm the coach of a team that gets it to 90-0, I'm making sure my team doesnt get to triple digits. For some reason the fact it was an even 100 bothers me.

[bigmike]

i tried to look up the worst college football team in D3 this year and i found this.

Prairie View in 1991 scored only 48 points all season and gave up an average of 56 a game.....WOW
Hahaha. Ooof.

[xEmmettx]

beatin a team 100-0 is terrible lmao. They should have slowed down and just passed or somethin and not scored so much. thats just puttin the other team to shame. The coach should have made them not score, but he definitly shouldnt have been fired, thats just ridiculous.

[Tristan Needler]

"Hey, girls! Remember all the stuff I taught you about how to play basketball? Remember how everyone told you to always try your best no matter what? Well, don't do that this time."

[deadstar]

"Hey, girls! Remember all the stuff I taught you about how to play basketball? Remember how everyone told you to always try your best no matter what? Well, don't do that this time."
100 to 0. Give me a break. This is high school.

[screamoutmyname]

cool story hansel

hahahahahaha

[Tristan Needler]

100 to 0. Give me a break. This is high school.
Give me a break. A team shouldn't be called out for being way better than the other team. They shouldn't have to not play the game.

[deadstar]

But its high school sports. This isnt a team of professionals. It's women's high school basketball. Are any of these girls actually going to go pro? Theres other things that should be taught in high school sports like respect. These aren't paid athletes whose job it is to play.

And its high school. They should know the difference between "giving it your all" and letting up because embarrassing a team like this is not right.

[Tristan Needler]

The other team wasn't embarrassed. They didn't give up. They cared about going out and doing their best. If the other team had let up and let them score a few, that would have been embarrassing.

I don't know anyone who would rather have done "okay" knowing that their opponent didn't give it their all rather than losing spectacularly, but knowing that you did the best you could.


In high school alpine skiing out boy's team just barely made it to states for the first time in a long time. We were all ecstatic. We got there and we came in last. But it was awesome. If we had made but but found out that we only made in on a technicality, or because some other team felt bad for us, that would have felt like shit. If we hadn't come in last, but found out afterward that the only reason we hadn't was because some kid's coach told them to take it easy on purpose, that would have been embarrassing and not satisfying at all.

[preppyak]

And its high school. They should know the difference between "giving it your all" and letting up because embarrassing a team like this is not right.
Thats contradictory right there...in that sense, I understand blaming the coach a bit, because the girls would listen to him first, but they are 15, 16, 17...they aren't making value decisions on their play on the court, they are just going as hard as they can and hoping coach doesn't yell at them. And even if their coach said "take it easy on them", what does that even mean...the matchup was essentially like putting the Celtics v NJIT, they weren't in the same league, and even messign around they are gonna score 59 points in the 1st half.

The major blame isn't on anyone directly involved in the game though...its so easy to get caught up in the moment, and the game probably lasted all of 90 minutes, its kind of hard to say "the coach should have considered the long-term effects of this"...he's coaching HS basketball at a private school in Texas, this isn't Coach K we're talking about here. Dallas Academy should know "only schedule games against teams that can beat us by 40 on their best nights", even if it means playing fewer games, and the people at the Covenant school should have sent their JV team or something...but again, even then its hard to fault them because who predicts 100-0...maybe 60-20, but not 100-0.

So, then you turn to the rule book, which, in all its wisdom, hasn't predicted this either...and I bet Texas basketball will soon have a mercy rule as a result...as all HS sports should, because until you get paid to play the game, there should be a defined limit to the game. In Lacrosse, 10 goal differential means the clock doesn't stop for anything. In the LLWS, there is a run differential. Its just vision in planning, imagine the worst that can happen, make it 100x worse, and make 1 rule for that. Unfortunately, it only takes one occurence for the media to blow it up, and then the rule gets made.

Sucks it cost a guy, who seemed pretty committed to his job and genuinely believe his team played with honr his job...and most of that is because the story got blown up, and they are a religious school, not because of the scoreboard itself.

I just wonder, if the score was 60-0, or 75-0...would this have made the news...or if its the fact that its 100 makes difference

[acornwe2]

its too late to apologize....its too late!!! hahaha oh OneRepublic

[deadstar]

Hahahahhahaha, Worst analogy ever. You compared your team that barely made it to states, a very nice accomplishment, to a basketball team that didnt score a point. Do you really not see the difference there? Why would anyone let up against a team that was competitive?

I've been on a few asshole teams that ran the score up on some pretty terrible teams and theres no point in it. Do we get bonus points for running it up against teams in youth sports? Do you really feel better about yourself after running it up? The point was obviously made at halftime.

[deadstar]

Thats contradictory right there...in that sense, I understand blaming the coach a bit, because the girls would listen to him first, but they are 15, 16, 17...they aren't making value decisions on their play on the court, they are just going as hard as they can and hoping coach doesn't yell at them. And even if their coach said "take it easy on them", what does that even mean...the matchup was essentially like putting the Celtics v NJIT, they weren't in the same league, and even messign around they are gonna score 59 points in the 1st half.

The major blame isn't on anyone directly involved in the game though...its so easy to get caught up in the moment, and the game probably lasted all of 90 minutes, its kind of hard to say "the coach should have considered the long-term effects of this"...he's coaching HS basketball at a private school in Texas, this isn't Coach K we're talking about here. Dallas Academy should know "only schedule games against teams that can beat us by 40 on their best nights", even if it means playing fewer games, and the people at the Covenant school should have sent their JV team or something...but again, even then its hard to fault them because who predicts 100-0...maybe 60-20, but not 100-0.

So, then you turn to the rule book, which, in all its wisdom, hasn't predicted this either...and I bet Texas basketball will soon have a mercy rule as a result...as all HS sports should, because until you get paid to play the game, there should be a defined limit to the game. In Lacrosse, 10 goal differential means the clock doesn't stop for anything. In the LLWS, there is a run differential. Its just vision in planning, imagine the worst that can happen, make it 100x worse, and make 1 rule for that. Unfortunately, it only takes one occurence for the media to blow it up, and then the rule gets made.

Sucks it cost a guy, who seemed pretty committed to his job and genuinely believe his team played with honr his job...and most of that is because the story got blown up, and they are a religious school, not because of the scoreboard itself.

I just wonder, if the score was 60-0, or 75-0...would this have made the news...or if its the fact that its 100 makes difference
Well if they are afraid of coach still "yelling at them" up by 60 or 80, then I'm glad he was canned. High school kids. My middle school soccer team beat a small school team 11-12 to 0 and I was embarrassed by my teammates still trying to score or laughing at our worst player dribbling around their team. I got the value (I guess you could call it) of youth sports at that age, How did this coach not understand it even a little?

And I agree about the 100 points part, which is what really annoys me in the first place. They still scored 41 points in the 2nd half. Do you really need to hit that 100 mark to prove the point? I'd be doing everything in my power to make sure my team does not hit the century mark.

[deadstar]

And for the record, obviously the people who scheduled the game should be more at fault here, but I was just getting really annoyed at people saying the coach wasnt at fault.

[Tristan Needler]

I compared my team that came dead last in states and was damn excited about it. Nice try though.

You failed to address the point that no rational human would care more about having a few points if it meant that the other team had let them have it.

If I'm arm wresting and a guy slams my arm down to within a centimetre of the table within half a second, looks me right in the eyes, smiles and lets me win, I am not going to be happy with my win. Or, in this case, if he lets me hold his arm there for four or five extra seconds, then crushes me anyway, I'm not going to feel better. That's not how competition works. That's not the nature of competition. There's no esteem to be had from someone letting you get a few.

I think that it's ridiculous to expect a coach to tell his team to do badly. Or even to "let up." The girls in the other school would not be happy to know that was the case either.

I'd rather have some dignity than have some points. As would anyone playing for the right reasons, which is exactly how the girls on this losing team feel.

[thesafeword]

Apparantly, somewhere in the Bible, it says that beating a team 100-0 in Texas girls basketball is a sin, learn something new everyday.

[deadstar]

I compared my team that came dead last in states and was damn excited about it. Nice try though.

Dont you have to do well in some way, shape, or form to even make it to states? Yes. Was this high school basketball team doing well when they were down 59 at half? Were they competitive in any way? Clearly not.

You failed to address the point that no rational human would care more about having a few points if it meant that the other team had let them have it.

Im not talking about letting them have points. Im talking about not throwing up a 3 digit score against a school that can barely field a team.

If I'm arm wresting and a guy slams my arm down to within a centimetre of the table within half a second, looks me right in the eyes, smiles and lets me win, I am not going to be happy with my win. Or, in this case, if he lets me hold his arm there for four or five extra seconds, then crushes me anyway, I'm not going to feel better. That's not how competition works. That's not the nature of competition. There's no esteem to be had from someone letting you get a few.

Once again not talking about letting someone win. How are you missing this concept?

I think that it's ridiculous to expect a coach to tell his team to do badly. Or even to "let up." The girls in the other school would not be happy to know that was the case either.

Clearly they werent doing "badly" when they were up 98.

I'd rather have some dignity than have some points. As would anyone playing for the right reasons, which is exactly how the girls on this losing team feel.

Do you play on the team or something?

[Tristan Needler]

Dont you have to do well in some way, shape, or form to even make it to states? Yes. Was this high school basketball team doing well when they were down 59 at half? Were they competitive in any way? Clearly not.So? The girls were trying their damnedest.

Im not talking about letting them have points. Im talking about not throwing up a 3 digit score against a school that can barely field a team.If the number is the problem, then I'm not sure I can continue this argument. Last time I checked, sports were for fun, not points. Whether they are high or low. 98 to zero is only 2 points away from 100-0. No difference.

Once again not talking about letting someone win. How are you missing this concept?Once again, not reading what I've written. How are you missing the writing?

Clearly they werent doing "badly" when they were up 98. And if the other team isn't ready to throw in the towel, then they shouldn't either. If the other team wants to play it out, then play it out with them.

Do you play on the team or something?Have you read any of the articles related to this story?

[Bigalan2004]

to me it all comes down to class. it was an extremely classless move on the coach's part, dallas academy hadn't won a game in 4 years so going into the game both teams knew it was going to be a blow out.

it also seems kinda weird that the game ended with a score of 100, the milestone mark in basketball. something tells me this coach came into the game wanting to make a statement by putting up 100 points on the NJIT of high school basketball.

[thesafeword]

I saw somewhere that the girls who lost are getting an award or something for 'not giving up'. Fuck America.

[deadstar]

You can try your hardest and be proud of yourself for not giving up. That doesn't mean you aren't unhappy with the poor sportsmanship showed at a girls high school basketball game.

The other team didnt "throw in the towel" but you act like they still had a legitimate shot at coming back at halfitme. You can play it out, but I still fail to see how putting up 41 points in the 2nd half helps any of this.

[Tristan Needler]

You think they should have just not shot the ball in the second half? 59-0 is still a blow-out. Where should the line be drawn?

It shouldn't be drawn is my answer. If the girls are having fun playing the game, then there's no problem in my eyes. People are getting too caught up in what high school sports should not be about: the score.

[preppyak]

I saw somewhere that the girls who lost are getting an award or something for 'not giving up'. Fuck America.
I know that Mark Cuban invited them to watch a Dallas Mavericks from his suite...so, can't say they didn't get anything cool out of it...but, getting an award for not giving up would be ridiculous

[deadstar]

You think they should have just not shot the ball in the second half? 59-0 is still a blow-out. Where should the line be drawn?

It shouldn't be drawn is my answer. If the girls are having fun playing the game, then there's no problem in my eyes. People are getting too caught up in what high school sports should not be about: the score.
The line should be drawn at having some respect for a team that hasnt won a game in 4 years to not hit 100 against them. Pretty easy to see they still shot the ball a good amount seeing as how they put up 41 without a shot clock.

And hold on while I laugh at the notion of still having fun while losing 100-0. The tried their hardest and maintained a competitive spirit. I didnt read anything about them having "fun".

[Jason Tate]

Wasn't the other team made up of mentally challenged players from a school of only 20 people? That's what the news here said.

[Tristan Needler]

I think it's more respectful to play than to stand around passing without shooting. Or even worse, standing and pretending you can't defend against them.

I've had fun in races where I've fallen and had to hike gates. I still finish, because it's fun even though I'll be disqualified or come in at least 45 seconds after the slowest finishers.

[deadstar]

I think it's more respectful to play than to stand around passing without shooting. Or even worse, standing and pretending you can't defend against them.

I've had fun in races where I've fallen and had to hike gates. I still finish, because it's fun even though I'll be disqualified or come in at least 45 seconds after the slowest finishers.
Still not a great analogy. This was like Tyson fighting an infant.

What point did they make by winning by 100 instead of 60 or 70. I've played soccer games where we're up 6 and everyone on the field has to touch the ball before we can shoot.

[Jason Tate]

Still not a great analogy. This was like Tyson fighting an infant.

What point did they make by winning by 100 instead of 60 or 70. I've played soccer games where we're up 6 and everyone on the field has to touch the ball before we can shoot.
Our soccer team couldn't score on Cal-Tech unless it was a header.

[preppyak]

Wasn't the other team made up of mentally challenged players from a school of only 20 people? That's what the news here said.
haha, that's what its been wittle down too sadly...but the reality is that they have "learning differences"....the main things mentioned were ADD and dyslexia...which, if you have a super short attention span, I can't imagine learning basketball well...much less having half the school learn basketball well. Its that part that made the religiously connected school apologize in my mind, because the news organizations spun ADD into them being a special olympics team, but, every original source I've seen has them as just being a school that tends to have students with more common learning disabilities.

The 20 person school is mostly correct...it was listed as having "about 20 female students"...and I didn't feel like being super creepy and checking the female enrollment of a potentially learning disabled high school, because, that seemed like the kind of thing that would get me on an FBI watch list. But, any school that small, I know this from my girlfriend who went to Waldorf and had like, 15 kids in her graduating class, their basketball team wasn't really competitive at any level because, she was their main forward, despite being like, 5'6"ish

[preppyak]

Our soccer team couldn't score on Cal-Tech unless it was a header.
See, I used to hate that shit as a player...my lacrosse team had a rule where once we got taken out after the first quarter in joke games, we couldn't score, and we had to pass to someone on the 4th and 5th lines. The problem was, I played the same way I played when I was with the starting line, then I'd be 5 feet from the goal and realize "oh shit, I can't score", and I'd basically back-track and try to set-up a teammate...and our opponents would always get mad at us for that...because, if I was on the losing team, I'd be totally pissed at that.

[Jason Tate]

haha, that's what its been wittle down too sadly...but the reality is that they have "learning differences"....the main things mentioned were ADD and dyslexia...which, if you have a super short attention span, I can't imagine learning basketball well...much less having half the school learn basketball well. Its that part that made the religiously connected school apologize in my mind, because the news organizations spun ADD into them being a special olympics team, but, every original source I've seen has them as just being a school that tends to have students with more common learning disabilities.

The 20 person school is mostly correct...it was listed as having "about 20 female students"...and I didn't feel like being super creepy and checking the female enrollment of a potentially learning disabled high school, because, that seemed like the kind of thing that would get me on an FBI watch list. But, any school that small, I know this from my girlfriend who went to Waldorf and had like, 15 kids in her graduating class, their basketball team wasn't really competitive at any level because, she was their main forward, despite being like, 5'6"ish
Yeah, their website (http://www.dallas-academy.com/page.asp?iframe=about_us_why_da.asp ) calls it "learning differences."

[Tristan Needler]

See, I used to hate that shit as a player...my lacrosse team had a rule where once we got taken out after the first quarter in joke games, we couldn't score, and we had to pass to someone on the 4th and 5th lines. The problem was, I played the same way I played when I was with the starting line, then I'd be 5 feet from the goal and realize "oh shit, I can't score", and I'd basically back-track and try to set-up a teammate...and our opponents would always get mad at us for that...because, if I was on the losing team, I'd be totally pissed at that.
Exactly.

[Jason Tate]

See, I used to hate that shit as a player...my lacrosse team had a rule where once we got taken out after the first quarter in joke games, we couldn't score, and we had to pass to someone on the 4th and 5th lines. The problem was, I played the same way I played when I was with the starting line, then I'd be 5 feet from the goal and realize "oh shit, I can't score", and I'd basically back-track and try to set-up a teammate...and our opponents would always get mad at us for that...because, if I was on the losing team, I'd be totally pissed at that.
The #3 ranked team in the nation -- playing a team of computer kids who were forced to play on the team because of suicide fears at their school for students not in athletics (seriously). I think it's a legit situation ... our team just goofed around - started the team manager - and would try and get him to score for 80 minutes, then score 5 goals in the last 10 minutes and be done with it. Teams that suck know they suck -- there's no real way to change that. So you might as well not embarrass them if you can help it. Beating them by 60 or purposefully not scoring are both embarassing ... however, one of those things is read about by their parents in their pamphlets, etc. At least if you don't score at the end they save some face when asked about the game.

[Zeran]

it's not his fault his team was better. it's high school. fuck.

[domotime2]

well it depends...do i want to be fired? When you go against your schools PR decision you're going to get fired..its just common sense with any organization or business or school.

If General Motors comes out and says...We really need money, and then a GM employee speaks out and says,... no we dont we just need a better product... boom he's gonezo.

[phil19]

good on him for not apologising. its not his fault the other team was shit.