Westboro Baptist Church

[raptorz44]

I don't know if this is the right forum, but these people are fucking monsters. They think that everyone who is not exactly like them is a "***" and is hated by God. They protest the funerals of soldiers with signs like, "God Hates ****." Remember that mine disaster in Colorado a few years ago I think? "Thank God for Dead Miners!" If there is a god, then God Hates Westboro Baptist Church.

[J.C.]

Yup, Phelps and his gang are the d-baggiest of the d-bags. I will celebrate his passing.

[JustSway]

Im honestly surprised theres never been any sort of violence towards this group. I saw the Louis Theroux documentary on them and someone threw one of those fucking huge cups at a kid, but Im surprised that's all that's happened. Id like to believe we live in such a world where recourse against these hate-mongering biggots would cause Police to turn the other cheek.

[Machu505]

Evil, evil people.

[more heart]

Wait, isn't this the church in Kansas that leads this anti-gay crusade?

If so, I hate those fuckers. Motherfucking bunch of low-lifes.

[BruisedxBroken]

Lol @ OP. They're monsters, why? Because they have an opinion about gays that differs from your own? Because they choose to express that opinion in a harsh, direct manner? You may not like what they're saying, but they're entitled to express their opinions in any manner which they choose, including through shock tactic. Calling them monsters makes you no better or worse of a person than those people are, the ones who proclaim that God hates **** (which i'll remind you, you can't really prove either way. who knows, maybe there is a God? And maybe, just maybe, he isn't quite fond of the homosexuals?? can you prove otherwise???)

[J.C.]

Lol @ OP. They're monsters, why? Because they have an opinion about gays that differs from your own? Because they choose to express that opinion in a harsh, direct manner? You may not like what they're saying, but they're entitled to express their opinions in any manner which they choose, including through shock tactic. Calling them monsters makes you no better or worse of a person than those people are, the ones who proclaim that God hates ****

Yup. If you hate racists, you're just as bad as they are. Brilliant logic there, Einstein.

(which i'll remind you, you can't really prove either way. who knows, maybe there is a God? And maybe, just maybe, he isn't quite fond of the homosexuals?? can you prove otherwise???)

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[J.C.]

No one is as bad as anyone, morality is relative.

That's a different argument entirely and has nothing to do with the fact that BxB was the one drawing a moral equivalency.

[thespearkid]

I hate what they do at funerals.

[thespearkid]

Lol @ OP. They're monsters, why? Because they have an opinion about gays that differs from your own? Because they choose to express that opinion in a harsh, direct manner? You may not like what they're saying, but they're entitled to express their opinions in any manner which they choose, including through shock tactic. Calling them monsters makes you no better or worse of a person than those people are, the ones who proclaim that God hates **** (which i'll remind you, you can't really prove either way. who knows, maybe there is a God? And maybe, just maybe, he isn't quite fond of the homosexuals?? can you prove otherwise???)
Pretty sure the bible says God loves everyone. :shrug:

[thespearkid]

The Bible says a lot of things.
People just pick and choose which ones to acknowledge.

[J.C.]

It has everything to do with it. You can't claim one act is worse than another, in a round about way he most likely doesn't get he's right.

He was claiming one act was worse, otherwise he'd have made the argument that not criticizing the WBC would've made the OP as bad as them also.

Do you think we should be a lawless land, Ben?

[BruisedxBroken]

Yup. If you hate racists, you're just as bad as they are. Brilliant logic there, Einstein.



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Hate is pretty bad any way you slice it. Hating blacks, hating people who hate blacks, hating ****, hating people who hate ****. Tomato, tomaato. Everyone's a hater, nobody loves. Ergo, its all baaaaad....

pix = super ghey...

i prefer bebe to bxb, it just sounds more... fabulous. for future reference, something to keep in mind...

[thespearkid]

Absolutely, but the Bible justifies both intolerance and tolerance to gays. One isn't more right than the other simply because it's more tolerant. If anything the specific address should take precedence.

Since the argument is coming from a Christian church, I would assume the teachings of Christ would take precedence. I'm not a theology major or anything but judging from the gospels, Jesus certainly wouldn't advocate hating gays. Gentiles maybe, but not gays.

[J.C.]

Hate is pretty bad anyway you slice it. Hating blacks, hating people who hate blacks, hating ****, hating people who hate ****. Tomato, tomaato. Everyone's a hater, nobody loves. Ergo, its all baaaaad....

There's a difference between hating someone for an opinion they hold and hating someone for something they do not control, regardless of whether or not you want to acknowledge it. Not to make the argument that it's purely justifiable to hate someone for their opinion, but there's a clear difference in the dynamics of the two.

i prefer bebe to bxb, it just sounds more... fabulous. for future reference, something to keep in mind...

Nah, I think I'll roll with BxB.

Nope.

Why not?

[BruisedxBroken]

There's a difference between hating someone for an opinion they hold and hating someone for something they do not control, regardless of whether or not you want to acknowledge it.



Nah, I think I'll roll with BxB.



Why not?


Hate is hate. One might be a less popular form of hate, the other might be a more acceptable form of hate. Controllable, uncontrollable, blah blah blah. It's all still hate. That's all I'm saying. Hate sux. /

Only my friends call me bxb. Does that mean we're friends!? Frriiiiieeeeennnnnddddddd. Plz don't ever leave me...

[J.C.]

Because many people are idiots.

So? What are you afraid of?

[WakingTheMisery]

How was this not posted?

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[J.C.]

The many people who are idiots of course.

What are you afraid of them doing?

[more heart]

Please excuse my rant here but this needs to be said:

How canyone defend these fuckers? These soildiers have made the ultimate sacrifice for their country and this is how these people celebrate them? Go to their funerals and say they were punished because "God hates homos". Gimmie a fucking break people. Believe me, I'm all for the First Amendment but this crosses the line. Should people go to the funerals of Black soldiers and say they were killed because "God Hates *******". Absolutely fucking not! I saw the documentary on these people by the BBC on Dan Hunter's myspace page and was digusted beyond belief. How is this right? These fuckers are indoctrining their children with this fucking propaganda. They bring their little children to all their protests and feed them this web of lies. How is the acceptable.If you believe otherwise, you may as well fly your fuckinmg ass to Kansas and preach with these monsters. I know gay people in my life and to think this is around sickens me just as much as the thought that the KKK still exists.

And I am proud to say, "I LOVE HOMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!".

[samsara]

I always fight with people like that by saying yeah in the bible its says that homosexuality is wrong but my point is that in the bible it also says that its not peoples role to judge that it is Gods. The ultimate decision is his and people acting like they know better bugs the hell out of me. No pun intended.

Edit: I also dont think that being gay is bad.

[J.C.]

In some way harming myself, my friends or my family whether physically or financially.

Why? What would be wrong with that? You must believe those actions are worse than NOT harming yourself, your friends or your family then, right?

I'm guessing this is the part where you were intending to be a smart ass and say how I can I think that when morality is relative? Well I'll save you the time and tell you. Morality is the relative in the sense that there is no empiracle foundation for any one moral code

In the scheme of things and in it's simplest form, I agree. Morality is the creation of man. It is not scientific. But that doesn't make the idea of it wrong. There are obviously a number of things you wouldn't do and a number of lines you wouldn't cross. And why would that be?

but that does means I personally do not have a way of carrying myself and hope others would act similarly.

I don't understand what this means, particularly after your admission that there are idiots out there who you'd fear.

[Taniam]

Hears the dealio...the bible says that being gay is sin, but conversley every sin is the same in God's eyes..the bible says that in everything you do you should condoct yourself in love...so overall this church is wrong...but the bible says its wrong to be gay, but still not a reason to hate people because Jesus said the most important commandment is to love you neighbor as yourself

[J.C.]

I know there is no empiracle good or bad but that doesn't mean I wish to see myself harmed.

I could've used a little better hypothetical. My apologies.

Do you believe there should be no reprocussions for attempting to harm you?

Because the reprecussions on myself and on society as a whole lead me to the decision it would not be a good idea.

That's a beautiful sense of morality you have there.

Don't pull the everyone has a sense of morality bullshit though. Study any amount of history and you'll figure out what garbage that is.

You'd be surprised how much I actually agree with you on most of this stuff. I don't believe in a 'natural' sense of morality in the least bit and that was probably the actual crux of your argument.

However, as we've advanced as a society we've set up a moral structure that we now adhere to(on the more common stuff). I think that's undeniable. And the fact that we assign value to things makes 'morality' inevitable. And that's what you were doing when you alluded to the physical and financial safety of yourself, your family, and your friends; you were assigning/acknowledging importance.

[BruisedxBroken]

Please excuse my rant here but this needs to be said:

How canyone defend these fuckers? These soildiers have made the ultimate sacrifice for their country and this is how these people celebrate them? Go to their funerals and say they were punished because "God hates homos". Gimmie a fucking break people. Believe me, I'm all for the First Amendment but this crosses the line. Should people go to the funerals of Black soldiers and say they were killed because "God Hates *******". Absolutely fucking not! I saw the documentary on these people by the BBC on Dan Hunter's myspace page and was digusted beyond belief. How is this right? These fuckers are indoctrining their children with this fucking propaganda. They bring their little children to all their protests and feed them this web of lies. How is the acceptable.If you believe otherwise, you may as well fly your fuckinmg ass to Kansas and preach with these monsters. I know gay people in my life and to think this is around sickens me just as much as the thought that the KKK still exists.

And I am proud to say, "I LOVE HOMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!".

...now all you need is a flag lapel pin and one of those "i support the troops with this yellow ribbon" ribbon for your american made suv...

all jokes aside...

let's not play games here, buddy. i'm not your buddy, guy. you don't really care about free speech if you're against the westboro church's right to express it, even if it is at solider's funerals. Shy of dropping their pants and shitting on graves, they have every right to be there and exercise their First Amendment right, offensive or not. Because like it or not, there will always be people who vocally hate ****, ******s, jews, wetbacks etc, etc. Is it sad that such people exist? Yes. Is it even worse that they're teaching this shit to their children?? Yes. BUT, I will never, ever rally against their right to express themselves in a non-violent manner, no matter how offensive or hateful the speech they're expressing is...

for those who don't know, i'm also openly gay. not saying that makes my opinion any more or less important, but i want people to understand that there are gay people out there who also support this church's right to freedom of speech and expression, no matter how offensive what they're saying is...

[J.C.]

...now all you need is a flag lapel pin and one of those "i support the troops with this yellow ribbon" ribbon for your american made suv...

all jokes aside...

let's not play games here, buddy. i'm not your buddy, guy. you don't really care about free speech if you're against the westboro church's right to express it, even if it is at solider's funerals. Shy of dropping their pants and shitting on graves, they have every right to be there and exercise their First Amendment right, offensive or not. Because like it or not, there will always be people who vocally hate ****, ******s, jews, wetbacks etc, etc. Is it sad that such people exist? Yes. Is it even worse that they're teaching their children this shit?? Yes. BUT, I will never, ever rally against their right to express themselves in a non-violent manner, no matter how offensive or hateful that speech is.

for those who don't know, i'm also openly gay. not saying that makes my opinion any more or less important, but i want people to understand that there are gay people out there who also support this church's right to freedom of speech and expression, no matter how offensive what they're saying is...

Hating that they espouse their hate speech =/= Opposing their right to say it.

The debate around their funeral protestings is whether or not they violate the rights of others.

[BruisedxBroken]

Hating that they espouse their hate speech =/= Opposing their right to say it.

The debate around their funeral protestings is whether or not they violate the rights of others.

Where in his quoted text did it say anything about the rights of owners being violated? Moreover, what the fuck does that even mean?? I don't think we're on the same wave length here, friend...

[J.C.]

I was speaking in general, not in reference to his post.

I don't know what rights of 'owners' is. I assume you misread 'others'. It was already mentioned that it could be a right to privacy breach as well as possible defamation.

[more heart]

...now all you need is a flag lapel pin and one of those "i support the troops with this yellow ribbon" ribbon for your american made suv...

all jokes aside...

let's not play games here, buddy. i'm not your buddy, guy. you don't really care about free speech if you're against the westboro church's right to express it, even if it is at solider's funerals. Shy of dropping their pants and shitting on graves, they have every right to be there and exercise their First Amendment right, offensive or not. Because like it or not, there will always be people who vocally hate ****, ******s, jews, wetbacks etc, etc. Is it sad that such people exist? Yes. Is it even worse that they're teaching this shit to their children?? Yes. BUT, I will never, ever rally against their right to express themselves in a non-violent manner, no matter how offensive or hateful the speech they're expressing is...

for those who don't know, i'm also openly gay. not saying that makes my opinion any more or less important, but i want people to understand that there are gay people out there who also support this church's right to freedom of speech and expression, no matter how offensive what they're saying is...


It doesn't matter if it's violent or not, it's still offensive. The whole point of the First Amendment is to protect the rights of citizens to speak their minds. That was intended for people to call out the injustices of the government with out fear of punishment, not the right to call people "****" or any other offensive names. Did you think about the families they hurt with their words.? Proobobly not.

Think back to elementary school, if you called a kid stupid you would be more than likley punsihed by your teacher for saying an inappropriate and demeaning phrase

And by the way, I'm extremely liberal and don't support the war. On the other hand, I do support the troops because they are sacrificing their lives for our freedom. So to refute what you said, I wouldn't have one of those ribbons and I'm appalled that you think this is a joke.

[Keaton]

I don't know if this is the right forum, but these people are fucking monsters. They think that everyone who is not exactly like them is a "***" and is hated by God. They protest the funerals of soldiers with signs like, "God Hates ****." Remember that mine disaster in Colorado a few years ago I think? "Thank God for Dead Miners!" If there is a god, then God Hates Westboro Baptist Church.

they're protesting @ a very gay friendly high school in boston in march, and the high school students and their glbt group are organizing a counter protest...apparently the village people and loudspeakers are going to be involved. the westboro baptist church makes me embarrased of humanity

[BruisedxBroken]

It doesn't matter if it's violent or not, it's still offensive. The whole point of the First Amendment is to protect the rights of citizens to speak their minds. That was intended for people to call out the injustices of the government with out fear of punishment, not the right to call people "****" or any other offensive names. Did you think about the families they hurt with their words.? Proobobly not.

Think back to elementary school, if you called a kid stupid you would be more than likley punsihed by your teacher for saying an inappropriate and demeaning phrase

And by the way, I'm extremely liberal and don't support the war. On the other hand, I do support the troops because they are sacrificing their lives for our freedom. So to refute what you said, I wouldn't have one of those ribbons and I'm appalled that you think this is a joke.

Limiting controversial speech/expression is wrong, whether it be perceived "hate speech" or otherwise. The dead soliders, their families etc have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that any and every one citizen in this country has the right to free speech, however controversial or even disgusting that speech may be.

Elementary schools are controlled environments for underaged persons. Therefore, speech cannot be free. Our country does not work like that for adults.

To put it simply; Yelling fire in a crowded movie theater = Not protected by the first amendment. Protesting dead soldier's funerals in a non-violent manner with signs that read God Hates **** = Protected by the first amendment. Do you see the difference? If we're staying within the context of what you originally wrote and what I quoted, nothing the westboro church is doing is deemed unconstitutional by our US constitution. I encourage you to take your liberal self and visit the heritage foundation's website. There you will find a lot to read and study up on about the US constitution, it's amendment's etc...

[BruisedxBroken]

I was speaking in general, not in reference to his post.

I don't know what rights of 'owners' is. I assume you misread 'others'. It was already mentioned that it could be a right to privacy breach as well as possible defamation.

lol, owners. Right, i meant others. Obviously.

And hey, maybe next time, if you're just speaking "in general", try to leave the quotes alone. You *do* what they're there for, don't you?

/

[more heart]

Limiting controversial speech/expression is wrong, whether it be perceived "hate speech" or otherwise. The dead soliders, their families etc have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that any and every one citizen in this country has the right to free speech, however controversial or even disgusting that speech may be.

Elementary schools are controlled environments for underaged persons. Therefore, speech cannot be free. Our country does not work like that for adults.

To put it simply; Yelling fire in a crowded movie theater = Not protected by the first amendment. Protesting dead soldier's funerals in a non-violent manner with signs that read God Hates **** = Protected by the first amendment. Do you see the difference? If we're staying within the context of what you originally wrote and what I quoted, nothing the westboro church is doing is deemed unconstitutional by our US constitution. I encourage you to take your liberal self and visit the heritage foundation's website. There you will find a lot to read and study up on about the US constitution, it's amendment's etc...

There's really no use anymore in trying to explain to you why this is wrong.

[J.C.]

lol, owners. Right, i meant others. Obviously.

And hey, maybe next time, if you're just speaking "in general", try to leave the quotes alone. You *do* what they're there for, don't you?

/

I was speaking 'in general' about the point being made in your quote, just now how it pertained to the post you were quoting.

[x togepi x]

Lol @ OP. They're monsters, why? Because they have an opinion about gays that differs from your own? Because they choose to express that opinion in a harsh, direct manner? You may not like what they're saying, but they're entitled to express their opinions in any manner which they choose, including through shock tactic. Calling them monsters makes you no better or worse of a person than those people are, the ones who proclaim that God hates **** (which i'll remind you, you can't really prove either way. who knows, maybe there is a God? And maybe, just maybe, he isn't quite fond of the homosexuals?? can you prove otherwise???)

They are "monsters" because they have an opinion on BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS that differs from one of a decent person and they express said opinions IN THE WORST FUCKING WAY POSSIBLE. i get it, free speech and all that but if i went to places with large Jewish populations and said that i thought the holocaust was the best idea ever and wish it would have worked out, i highly doubt the people around there would say i'm a good person.

they're for the dehumanization of anyone that basically isn't super fundamentalist heterosexual male. that makes them terrible people.

[Machu505]

I can't believe people in this thread are actually defending these people.

[TotalCollapse]

Protesting at funerals is competely rude. They need to mind their own business.

[BruisedxBroken]

they're for the dehumanization of anyone that basically isn't super fundamentalist heterosexual male. that makes them terrible people.

so says you, and you have every right to say so. but name calling one group of people for name calling another is entirely pointless. how about taking the high road for a change? i say God Hates ****, and you say...okay, maybe he does?

Giving these people a reaction keeps them in power. If you feed into their shit with debate, name calling or shocked outrage, they'll continue to do what they do, and probably even grow in numbers...

[x togepi x]

so says you, and you have every right to say so. but name calling one group of people for name calling another is entirely pointless. how about taking the high road for a change? i say God Hates ****, and you say...okay, maybe he does?

Giving these people a reaction keeps them in power. If you feed into their shit with debate, name calling or shocked outrage, they'll continue to do what they do, and probably even grow in numbers...

You should learn to read. I wasn't name calling (monsters was in quotes so i could answer your dumb question), i was merely explaining why they're terrible people. Stop defending dehumanization on the grounds of free speech. Nobody here is actually advocating they get stripped of that right.

and it's quite easy to take the high road when you're not one of the minority groups he's attacking.

[Regards]

It's depressing how they've depicted God and his word. I'm not going to get into a theological debate, but what they do is terrible.

[BruisedxBroken]

You should learn to read. I wasn't name calling (monsters was in quotes so i could answer your dumb question), i was merely explaining why they're terrible people. Stop defending dehumanization on the grounds of free speech. Nobody here is actually advocating they get stripped of that right.

and it's quite easy to take the high road when you're not one of the minority groups he's attacking.

And you accuse me of not being able to read!?

FYI, i don't remember asking you to answer my dumb question, but I'm flattered that you took the time to anyway. Albeit, dick-ish-ly. But i'll take it...

/

[x togepi x]

Actually, I am. And you accuse me of not being able to read!?

If you want to get techincal, I believe you also said they were terrible people? That's name calling, right??

FYI, i don't remember asking you to answer my dumb question, but I'm flattered that you took the time to anyway. Albeit, dick-ish-ly. But i'll take it...

/

Oh, really? You're someone who's family members have been protested at a funeral?

Stop supporting fascist assholes.

[BruisedxBroken]

Oh, really? You're someone who's family members have been protested at a funeral?

Stop supporting fascist assholes.

I lol'd, but...

Can you prove I'm not??

For a wise ass, you seem sort of angry and mean. You should probably work on that...

[x togepi x]

I lol'd, but...

Can you prove I'm not??

For a wise ass, you seem sort of angry and mean. You should probably work on that...

ah, resorting to cheap games of semantics because you can't really justify supporting the westboro baptist church.

that's the problem with your stupid fucking logic. we are actually better than that church because we're not advocating terrible things like they are.

[Naenia]

I won't comment on whether they are right or wrong (but I have a brain so that probably clues you in to how I feel about these people)

They only important thing here is that someone in the world saw what needed to be done and did it:
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[BruisedxBroken]

ah, resorting to cheap games of semantics because you can't really justify supporting the westboro baptist church.

that's the problem with your stupid fucking logic. we are actually better than that church because we're not advocating terrible things like they are.

Again with the angry!?

I don't remember saying that I personally supported this church. I did, however, say that I supported their right to preach their message. Big difference. As far as the dead soliders are concerned; No, i don't really give a shit if their funerals are protested, so long as all local laws are followed in the process. Happy?

You take yourself and your positions way too seriously dude. I think it's time to come down a peg, or two, or three...

[x togepi x]

Again with the angry!?

I don't remember saying that I personally supported this church. I did, however, say that I supported their right to preach their message. Big difference. As far as the dead soliders are concerned; No, i don't really give a shit if their funerals are protested, so long as all local laws are followed in the process. Happy?

You take yourself and your positions way too seriously dude. I think it's time to come down a peg, or two, or three...

This is where I told you that you need to learn how to read since I said in the first post that it's protected by free speech, I was just pointing out why they're terrible people. You can be a terrible person and have free speech rights. You're an idiot who's arguing on their behalf by posting things like "Calling them monsters makes you no better or worse of a person than them."

[BruisedxBroken]

This is where I told you that you need to learn how to read since I said in the first post that it's protected by free speech, I was just pointing out why they're terrible people. You can be a terrible person and have free speech rights. You're an idiot who's arguing on their behalf by posting things like "Calling them monsters makes you no better or worse of a person than them."

It's really convenient to ignore quoted text and just pull stuff out of your ass, isn't it? That seems to be a problem around here, too...

Anyway, I have no idea why we're even aruging anymore, but I'm sticking with what I said earlier.

You remember earlier, when you accused me of being unable to justify support for westboro, to which I said I didn't really support them but rather their right to express their message, and then you reverted back to another paragraph I posted three pages ago which really had very little to do with what I actually quoted and responded to? Yeah, that earlier.

I believe the word you were looking for was comprehend. Obviously I can read, moron...

[x togepi x]

It's really convenient to ignore quoted text and just pull stuff out of your ass, isn't it? That seems to be a problem around here, too...

Anyway, I have no idea why we're even aruging anymore, but I'm sticking with what I said earlier.

You remember earlier, when you accused me of being unable to justify support for westboro, to which I said I didn't really support them but rather their right to express their message, and then you reverted back to another paragraph I posted three pages ago which really had very little to do with what I actually quoted and responded to? Yeah, that earlier.

I believe the word you were looking for was comprehend. Obviously I can read, moron...

the phrase learn to read serves the same purpose as saying comprehend. it's a common phrase used when people misunderstand something. surely someone who's argument is based around word games would recognize this.

but like i said in my first post, they have the right to say whatever they want, but that they're still terrible person. by doing your stupid ass PC LET'S RESPECT THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH, IF YOU CALL THEM BAD NAMES YOU'RE JUST AS GOOD AS THEM posts, you are defending them in a de facto way, because you're telling people not to criticize them by equating their critics to them on a moral level.

[Naenia]

What's sad is that really they should just be ignored but because they're so stupid people can't help but point out to other people how incredible their stupidity is.

And even in their infinite philosophical stupidity they're smart enough to realise that the more offensive they are the more people are going to spread the world about how awful they are, thus giving them more publicity.

That I even bumped this thread will have probably made at least one person who's never heard of them click in here and learn about them, they will then tell their friends etc etc.

[BruisedxBroken]

the phrase learn to read serves the same purpose as saying comprehend. it's a common phrase used when people misunderstand something. surely someone who's argument is based around word games would recognize this.

but like i said in my first post, they have the right to say whatever they want, but that they're still terrible person. by doing your stupid ass PC LET'S RESPECT THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH, IF YOU CALL THEM BAD NAMES YOU'RE JUST AS GOOD AS THEM posts, you are defending them in a de facto way, because you're telling people not to criticize them by equating their critics to them on a moral level.

literally speaking, learning to read and reading comprehension are not the same thing. for somebody who takes themselves as seriously as you do, i would think you'd respect that.

where the fuck did you get good from? oic, a mistype. oops, i'm playing word games again. srry...

i can't compete with your post count, as i'm sure you could undoubtedly argue this back and forth all night. so i concede to you good sir.
see, i don't always have to be right. i'm not that insecure. plus i'm tired. it's been fun though, ciao...

[x togepi x]

troll or a complete idiot?


you guys decide.

[joss d.]

troll or a complete idiot?


you guys decide.


needs a poll

[boykosaurus]

I can't even tell what is being argued.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

my brain hurts form reading this thread.

[atticus1492]

My heroes.

[Brodybitch246]

Yeah, they're pricks, but hey, let them do what they want. Homos aren't going anywhere. Plus, I think their God will want to have a word with them when they die. They're playing God by comdemning people. But, if they're going to take the Bible literally, then the passage, "Thou shalt not lie with man as one does with woman" is a compleately useless argument. It just means find a new way to do it. Also, they should then take the passages about a child being stoned if he or she disobeys his or her parents.

[J.C.]

I'm not even going to knock them. I don't want anyone knocking me and my way, so why should I do that to them? Yeah, they're pricks, but hey, let them do what they want. Homos aren't going anywhere. Plus, I think their God will want to have a word with them when they die. They're playing God by comdemning people. But, if they're going to take the Bible literally, then the passage, "Thou shalt not lie with man as one does with woman" is a compleately useless argument. It just means find a new way to do it. Also, they should then take the passages about a child being stoned if he or she disobeys his or her parents.

:-|

[Brodybitch246]

Oops, I apologize, I meant to delete the first sentence. Disregard that, please.

[karlwithak]

As a Christian the Westboro Baptist Church really upsets me. They are not Christians at all and are not representing Jesus or God and what the Bible says at all. I apologize for the damage they have caused.

[Petzl]

They let anyone call themselves a "church". That's mainly why religion is a bunch of crap, any marginally intelligent person should understand the difference between wrong and right, it doesn't matter if you think the war in Iraq is justified or homosexuals should be allowed to marry each other, but how you approach the subject does and being a prick about it is ignorant and childish. It's sad that in the long ass time humans have been around this planet we can still do nothing but focus on our anger instead of working towards peace.

[zion the lion]

According to them god hates everything, and if thats true then doesnt god hate their children, and them? Plus god made homo's if god hates homos then he hates all of us.

[anthonydarko]

The Westboro Baptist Church is the mistake that God is laughing at. Anyone who seriously believes that spreading hate and protesting soliders funerals will get them a foot in the door at the pearly gates has the intellect and thought processing power that of someone who's brain has been turned to mush because of heavy drugs.

[yayitsjoe]

OZJwSjor4hM&feature=youtu.be

this is fantastic. i was laughing the whole time.

[Simulcast]

www.twitter.com/meganphelps

The daughter of the psycho who runs this group. She is so delusional it's not even funny.

[Regards]

DEM CRAZY CHRISTIANS

x

[Regards]

OZJwSjor4hM&feature=youtu.be

this is fantastic. i was laughing the whole time.
lolol. She is insane.

[domotime2]

i know it's been said many times before but the fact that no one has tried to violently hurt these people seems outrageous.

[Sean Rizzo]

Universally despised, and with good reason.

[Simulcast]

i know it's been said many times before but the fact that no one has tried to violently hurt these people seems outrageous.

It would be best to ignore them. Harming them in any way will only bring the attention they crave.

[Regards]

It would be best to ignore them. Harming them in any way will only bring the attention they crave.
Well, as she said in the video, the more attention the get, the more exposure they get. Even exposure is good exposure

[zion the lion]

www.twitter.com/meganphelps (http://www.twitter.com/meganphelps)

The daughter of the psycho who runs this group. She is so delusional it's not even funny.

Well when you're raised in a certain environment, you end up believing what everyone else around you believes. Just like if you grow up as the child of a klan leader, you're probably going to be racist.

[jawstheme]

They don't believe it. They're a bunch of lawyers and they're outsmarting the system by acting like nuts. It's a scam.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

They don't believe it. They're a bunch of lawyers and they're outsmarting the system by acting like nuts. It's a scam.

bingo

[Sean Rizzo]

They don't believe it. They're a bunch of lawyers and they're outsmarting the system by acting like nuts. It's a scam.
Proof plz, ty

[SlappedActor]

They don't believe it. They're a bunch of lawyers and they're outsmarting the system by acting like nuts. It's a scam.

If it's a scam, then what's the take? They are funded almost entirely from their own day jobs, and they're not gaining any new members (a couple random psychos have joined, but it's basically just one family). So who is getting scammed out of what?

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

If it's a scam, then what's the take? They are funded almost entirely from their own day jobs, and they're not gaining any new members (a couple random psychos have joined, but it's basically just one family). So who is getting scammed out of what?

They provoke opponents into physically or verbally attacking them. Any type of assault will thus bring lawsuits against the attackers. Fred Phelps is a disbarred lawyer, all of his children are practicing lawyers. They've also sued municipalities for failing to provide police protection during protests.

[Sean Rizzo]

They provoke opponents into physically or verbally attacking them. Any type of assault will thus bring lawsuits against the attackers. Fred Phelps is a disbarred lawyer, all of his children are practicing lawyers. They've also sued municipalities for failing to provide police protection during protests.
What's the motive if they don't actually believe it, then?

[SlappedActor]

They provoke opponents into physically or verbally attacking them. Any type of assault will thus bring lawsuits against the attackers. Fred Phelps is a disbarred lawyer, all of his children are practicing lawyers. They've also sued municipalities for failing to provide police protection during protests.

A scam is defined as doing something fraudulent. If they are physically assaulted for expressing their beliefs, then they would be correct in the eyes of the law to sue for damages. You could argue that the judicial system is flawed, but that's a different debate altogether.

Whatever, I guess, but if their only goal is to make money, it seems like they are going about it in a very irrational way. Other religions with more peaceful doctrines are far wealthier.

[zion the lion]

What's the motive if they don't actually believe it, then?

Are you stupid? It's called attention.

[Sean Rizzo]

Are you stupid? It's called attention.
How hilariously fitting that you're informing me on this subject. Since you're the guru on this topic, I suppose you could also explain why certain individuals seek attention for its own sake?

[zion the lion]

How hilariously fitting that you're informing me on this subject. Since you're the guru on this topic, I suppose you could also explain why certain individuals seek attention for its own sake?

If I'm looking for attention with everything I do (which is what you're claiming), then I'm pretty sure everyone else does the same exact thing. Can you even prove that I'm trolling for attention? No? Well then next time dont make a claim without some proof to back it up.

[Sean Rizzo]

If I'm looking for attention with everything I do (which is what you're claiming), then I'm pretty sure everyone else does the same exact thing. Can you even prove that I'm trolling for attention? No? Well then next time dont make a claim without some proof to back it up.
Your words speak for themselves.

[zion the lion]

Your words speak for themselves.

That's not enough. I want proof.

You really shouldnt make a habit of saying things without any ounce of proof.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

A scam is defined as doing something fraudulent. If they are physically assaulted for expressing their beliefs, then they would be correct in the eyes of the law to sue for damages. You could argue that the judicial system is flawed, but that's a different debate altogether.

Whatever, I guess, but if their only goal is to make money, it seems like they are going about it in a very irrational way. Other religions with more peaceful doctrines are far wealthier.

Not too long ago, Jason posted a link to a blog post a journalist wrote about a series of encounters he's had with Fred Phelps and was convinced their sole purpose is to sue anybody any chance they get.

http://kanewj.com/wbc/

[Sean Rizzo]

That's not enough. I want proof.

You really shouldnt make a habit of saying things without any ounce of proof.
Oh, the irony.

[zion the lion]

Oh, the irony.

It really is because you cant ever provide any evidence of your claims but expect me to provide evidence of random things that you cant even name.

still waiting on that proof.

[Sean Rizzo]

Not too long ago, Jason posted a link to a blog post a journalist wrote about a series of encounters he's had with Fred Phelps and was convinced their sole purpose is to sue anybody any chance they get.

http://kanewj.com/wbc/
Crazy read. So money is the motive.

[SlappedActor]

Not too long ago, Jason posted a link to a blog post a journalist wrote about a series of encounters he's had with Fred Phelps and was convinced their sole purpose is to sue anybody any chance they get.

http://kanewj.com/wbc/

Interesting read, thanks.

[peder458]

Not too long ago, Jason posted a link to a blog post a journalist wrote about a series of encounters he's had with Fred Phelps and was convinced their sole purpose is to sue anybody any chance they get.

http://kanewj.com/wbc/

Thank you. I genuinely feel better after reading that. It made me sick to think they actually believe the ideas that they present to the world. Their are plenty of scam-artists out there, so chalking one more group isn't hard.

[Simulcast]

They don't believe it. They're a bunch of lawyers and they're outsmarting the system by acting like nuts. It's a scam.

Yep.

[tonyC4L]

Anonymous: "In my lifetime I've performed over 9000 sins."
Shirley: "And you keep track?!?!"

http://assets.knowyourmeme.com/i/4648/small/OVER_9000_SMILEY.jpg