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A picasso blue
08/25/05, 08:14 PM
alright well i just saw what i can officially call the weirdest movie ever made, called Magnolia, starring Tom Cruise and Julianna moore, and William Macy along with a few others. has anyone here ever seen this? I didn't necessarily dislike it, but like what it was supposed to be about--in short, random chance and coincidence--was never connected in any way to the end. and the end made me think "what the fuck..??" seriously does any understand this movie at all? it's going to drive me insane forever if i can't figure it out.
marrost
08/25/05, 08:18 PM
What a wonderful movie.
its ok... i wasn't that into it though. Its wicked long too... like 3 hrs or something.
A picasso blue
08/25/05, 08:20 PM
yeah well..did either of you find that it made any sense to you? like what the hell was with the ending?? thousands of frogs falling out of the sky...
marrost
08/25/05, 08:24 PM
Yea you probably should use spoiler tags for something like that. But no, I couldn't really put my finger on the ending. I'd need to watch it a couple of more times, but it's basically just even though how negative things can get, positivity can come out of it. There's a lot more to it than that, but I don't have time to disect the movie.
A picasso blue
08/25/05, 08:28 PM
Yea you probably should use spoiler tags for something like that. But no, I couldn't really put my finger on the ending. I'd need to watch it a couple of more times, but it's basically just even though how negative things can get, positivity can come out of it. There's a lot more to it than that, but I don't have time to disect the movie.
what do you mean? just writing "contains spoliers"..?
marrost
08/25/05, 08:31 PM
Move your mouse over the whiteness.
These are what spoiler tags do. Just put [spoiler, /spoiler] at the beginning and end of the part you want to look like this.
drudo182
08/25/05, 08:46 PM
If you watch the film, there is the letters 8:2 everywhere cause after Anderson wrote it with the ending, he was told about that being a part in the Bible so he incorporated it.
The film is amazing.
A picasso blue
08/25/05, 09:02 PM
If you watch the film, there is the letters 8:2 everywhere cause after Anderson wrote it with the ending, he was told about that being a part in the Bible so he incorporated it.
The film is amazing.
well did you udnerstand any of it? like form the narration at the beginning, i assumed it would be about random coincidence and fate. but none of that tied in to the end.
RESPECT THE COCK!
I love P.T.Andersen's work
radiofriendly
08/26/05, 08:25 AM
if all else fails, watch it again. that's what did it for me. i loved this movie. i thought Tom Cruise was suprisingly good in it as well. it isn't for all tastes though, i agree. here are some things that might help you
from P.T. Anderson himself concerning the frogs...
*spoilers*
It truly came from a slightly gimmicky and exciting place. I’d read about rains of frogs in the works of Charles Fort, who was a turn-of-the-century writer who wrote mainly about odd phenomena. Michael Penn was the one who turned me on to Fort, and who, when I went to one of Michael’s shows in New York once, made reference on stage to “rains of frogs.” At that moment I just went, Wow! How cool and scary and fun to do that would be – and what does it mean?
So I just started writing it into the script. It wasn’t until after I got through with the writing that I began to discover what it might mean, which was this: You get to a point in your life, and sh*t is happening, and everything’s out of your control, and suddenly, a rain of frogs just makes sense. You’re staring at a doctor who’s telling you something is wrong, and while we know what it is, we have no way of fixing it. And you just go, so what you’re telling me, basically, is that it’s raining frogs from the sky.
I’m not someone who’s ever had a special fascination with UFO’s or supernatural phenomena or anything, but I guess I just found myself at a point where I was going through some sh*tty stuff and I was ready for some sort of weird religion experience, or as close as I could get to one.
So then I began to decipher things about frogs and history, things like this famous notion that, as far back as the Romans, people have been able to judge the health of a society by the health of its frogs. The health of a frog, the vibe of a frog, the texture of a frog, its looks, how much wetness is on it, everything. The frogs are a barometer for who we are as people. We’re polluting ourselves, we’re killing ourselves, and the frogs are telling us so, because they are all getting sick and deformed. And I didn’t even know it was in the Bible until Henry Gibson gave me a copy of the Bible, bookmarked to the appropriate frog passage.
i also read somewhere that the rapper boy was a great deal of this film. in the beginning he sings the "im the prophet song" to jim and then he saves julianne moore's character by calling the ambulance and then there was the part when he finds jims gun, dissapears for most of the film, and then it falls out of the sky. in essence, the boy was a prophet...an angel of some sort. and as far as the beginning, i can understand what your saying. to many the film spends too much time on them, and the coincidences are much more obvious than the wonderful subtlety of the rest of the film, but i personally didn't have a problem with them. i lovedthe chalkboard scene, and how it kind of tied into jim's gun dropping from the sky
hope that kind of helps
uh oh smmoreo
08/26/05, 08:43 AM
I didn't quite understand it, but I thought it was great nonetheless.
Amazing soundtrack, as well. Aimee Mann is incredible.
drudo182
08/26/05, 09:07 AM
Its really just all these characters stories being interlocked in one way or another, even though they dont necessarily ineract with each other at any point but the ending brings it all together because it happens to them all. Like the majority of the characters are corrupt in some way and thats how he brought the Exodus 8:2 into it and its ending with the frogs coming down from the sky.
KGMRmuse
08/26/05, 11:21 AM
I just wanna know what the hell was up with those frogs...it made me laugh my ass off ...good movie btw
Trainsaw
08/26/05, 02:17 PM
it is a great movie, very long and weird but it is very good
A picasso blue
08/26/05, 02:50 PM
but yeah in the beginning the guy told all tjhese stories about strange coincidences, and then i was confused when the end came and nothing of the sort had happened at all :huh:
Starflyer59
08/31/05, 09:58 PM
This movie got me listening to Aimee Mann. I think its a great movie, but it's definitely not for everyone.
Sean McGeezer
08/31/05, 10:55 PM
The film makes perfect sense. That doesn't mean I can explain it though. Listen to the kids rap closesly, it'll make more sense after that.
A picasso blue
09/01/05, 01:25 PM
The film makes perfect sense. That doesn't mean I can explain it though. Listen to the kids rap closesly, it'll make more sense after that.
well i was lost because, you know at the beginning the narrator was talking about all these amazing coincidences happening..and then at the end i was thinking "what did that have to do with anything?"
Sean McGeezer
09/01/05, 04:17 PM
It didn't have anything to do with anything. I think you're looking too closely at that part and not closely enough at the ACTUAL movie. That's just an intro to get you thinking.
GhostManOn3rd
09/02/05, 06:47 PM
PT Anderson is the next Scorsese.
blankster07
09/18/05, 05:28 PM
wow this movie is fucking AWESOME...
Dan Hollister
09/18/05, 08:34 PM
Magnolia is one of my favorite movies of all time. P.T. Anderson is a god.
blankster07
09/19/05, 02:59 PM
did this movie remind anyone of Donnie Darko? .. the Wise Up scene was just like the Mad World scene in donnie darko... except for some reason i thought it was much much more touching... i could feel all the pain all the anxiety etc. it was beautiful... i'm a dude and even had a couple of tears...
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