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Esrb99
02/01/09, 02:59 PM
with what you'd rather listen to. having this argument.

just.Starla.
02/01/09, 03:44 PM
Pinkerton

Esrb99
02/01/09, 03:56 PM
same for me. guy says those who say pinkerton like bad music.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/01/09, 04:53 PM
Both. I love both of these albums and listen to them pretty frequently. Since this is AP its an automatic win for Weezer. People on here will hate on GNR for the shitfest that was Chinese Democracy but have never actually listened to their music. I would't really compare these bands albums especially not on AP

IceAge/HeatWave
02/01/09, 07:46 PM
Both. I love both of these albums and listen to them pretty frequently. Since this is AP its an automatic win for Weezer. People on here will hate on GNR for the shitfest that was Chinese Democracy but have never actually listened to their music. I would't really compare these bands albums especially not on AP

See, I like GnR when they slow down and do ballads, which is odd cuz I typically hate ballads. Don't cry is probably my favorite song of theirs. But for the most point I consider them a bloated glam rock band, directly responsible for nickleback and hinder. I like velvet revolver for some reason though.


Pinkerton for me.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/01/09, 08:07 PM
See, I like GnR when they slow down and do ballads, which is odd cuz I typically hate ballads. Don't cry is probably my favorite song of theirs. But for the most point I consider them a bloated glam rock band, directly responsible for nickleback and hinder. I like velvet revolver for some reason though.


Pinkerton for me.

I think they transcend the glam rock tag. They are the only band from that era besides Van Halen that I like. My favorite song of theirs would be either November Rain or Paradise City. As for Velvet Revolver I couldn't stand them

AussieBoy
02/01/09, 08:52 PM
Gunners baby!

Esrb99
02/01/09, 09:17 PM
See, I like GnR when they slow down and do ballads, which is odd cuz I typically hate ballads. Don't cry is probably my favorite song of theirs. But for the most point I consider them a bloated glam rock band, directly responsible for nickleback and hinder. I like velvet revolver for some reason though.


Pinkerton for me.

whilst they may be cited as influences to the likes of hinder, I believe Nirvana and grunge has more of an impact on todays radio rock than GNR. GNR ended an era with a good taste, but for me personally, I love pinkerton.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/01/09, 09:20 PM
whilst they may be cited as influences to the likes of hinder, I believe Nirvana and grunge has more of an impact on todays radio rock than GNR. GNR ended an era with a good taste, but for me personally, I love pinkerton.

I feel the same way

LUNYOU
02/01/09, 09:26 PM
Joined up here to set something straight, who knows maybe I will stick around.

I am the guy the OP refers to in his second statement. I am a GNR fan, more specifically a slash fan. I told him when he posted the poll here that it meant a win for Pinkerton, automatically. I think I was right.

To EMT, get your facts straigt. GNR was not a "bloated glam band". They were quite the opposite. I suppose you get the "glam" part of your statement from what I expect is your only exposure to GNR, the video to Welcome to the Jungle. If you know what the song is about you would realize they are just acting out the first impression of LA that Axl Rose had when he got off the bus, remember he was from Indiana.

Besides that you made an very ignorant statement when you say that GNR is directly responsible for "Hinder" and "Nickleback". If you want to blame a band for Nickleback, Hinder and all those other crappy bands that have been around for the past decade(and have found undeserved success) blame NIRVANA. I doubt anyone here will blame them. Kurt Cobain was a subpar musician and Nirvana was a subPar band that proved you didn't have to have talent to make it big in music, then 90's POP just helped solidify that fact.

I doubt I fit in here very well. I just felt that a few facts stated in this post needed to be "fixed".'

LUNYOU
02/01/09, 09:46 PM
I have searched high and low on the internet and I cannot find a list, a poll(that esrb99 or I didn't start), or anything else mentioning GNR and Weezer in the same sentance.

lunyou

Esrb99
02/01/09, 09:47 PM
Besides that you made an very ignorant statement when you say that GNR is directly responsible for "Hinder" and "Nickleback". If you want to blame a band for Nickleback, Hinder and all those other crappy bands that have been around for the past decade(and have found undeserved success) blame NIRVANA. I doubt anyone here will blame them. Kurt Cobain was a subpar musician and Nirvana was a subPar band that proved you didn't have to have talent to make it big in music, then 90's POP just helped solidify that fact.'

Hinder has cited GNR and various other 80's 'hair' bands as influences, along with Nirvana.

LUNYOU
02/01/09, 10:05 PM
Hinder has cited GNR and various other 80's 'hair' bands as influences, along with Nirvana.

But "Deep", you know who I am talking about, could cite any number of bands as influences but that doesn't mean they are really influences.

Definition:
Influence: the action or process of producing effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of another or others

When you listen to Hinder there is nothing in that music that says "hmm I bet they were influenced by GNR."

I good example of influence is Slash and Jimmy Page. That is a very obvious influence.

Hinder and GNR? Not hardly.

lunyou

SeanEBoy2686
02/01/09, 10:14 PM
i don't think GNR has a chance against Weezer on this site

my vote is for Pinkerton

batmannj
02/01/09, 10:52 PM
pinkerton, but appetite aint bad.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/01/09, 11:39 PM
I have searched high and low on the internet and I cannot find a list, a poll(that esrb99 or I didn't start), or anything else mentioning GNR and Weezer in the same sentance.

lunyou

Exactly. They are complete different so a comparison makes no sense. This poll is similar to the poll comparing Smashing Pumpkins to The Devil Wears Prada. AP has some of the silliest fucking poll I have ever seen. At least someone besides me came in here to stick up for GNR.

LUNYOU
02/02/09, 06:51 AM
Exactly. They are complete different so a comparison makes no sense. This poll is similar to the poll comparing Smashing Pumpkins to The Devil Wears Prada. AP has some of the silliest fucking poll I have ever seen. At least someone besides me came in here to stick up for GNR.

Well I told esrb99 before he finished entering the poll that putting the poll here would not be kind to GNR. I was right. Had the poll been Pinkerton 12 GNR 10 then it would actually have some credibility. 16-4 is ludicrous, there is no way Pinkerton a better than one of then top 10 albums ever, especially when most cannot even come to agree about pinkerton being weezer's best album.

Had I been the members of AP I would have voted Appetite just to make It seem as though the site has enough credibility to hold a legit opinion.

skellorock
02/02/09, 07:13 AM
pinkerton, definatly, cause weezer was probably my first fav band, tho it took a long time for it to grow on me, I mean I got the blue album cassette when I was 11 like back in 95, and that was a big deal, and loved it for a long time, but kinda lost track of the band and started getting into them again right before green came out, and when I finally listened to pinkerton I wasnt impressed, it seemed very contrast to anything before, but the more I listened to it the more I came to think "this is friggin good" and I can see why the ppl who were introduced to =w= thru that album hold it in such high regard, and i would say that it is a close second if not a tie with blue, just very diffrent, but great.

as for appetite, i wouldnt call myself a gnr fan, but the album definatly can be fun

Alex DiVincenzo
02/02/09, 08:03 AM
Definitely Appetite

IceAge/HeatWave
02/02/09, 02:30 PM
whilst they may be cited as influences to the likes of hinder, I believe Nirvana and grunge has more of an impact on todays radio rock than GNR. GNR ended an era with a good taste, but for me personally, I love pinkerton.

i'd agree, nirvana had more of an impact on modern radio rock. however, the three bands that i hate more than any other mainstream bands include nickleback, hinder and buckcherry, are very descendant from GnR. and i can't stand them. in my mind, nirvana brought about better radio rock than guns and roses championed. but thats only my opinion.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/02/09, 02:48 PM
i'd agree, nirvana had more of an impact on modern radio rock. however, the three bands that i hate more than any other mainstream bands include nickleback, hinder and buckcherry, are very descendant from GnR. and i can't stand them. in my mind, nirvana brought about better radio rock than guns and roses championed. but thats only my opinion.
Is is possible that since your a huge Nirvana fan you want to ignore the influence they had on much of the radio rock today? I think Hinder would be more influenced by Posion or Motley Crue rather than GNR. As for Buckcherry I'm glad I haven't heard them before. I hear they are atrocious

Machu505
02/02/09, 03:39 PM
Pinkerton.

LUNYOU
02/02/09, 05:44 PM
i'd agree, nirvana had more of an impact on modern radio rock. however, the three bands that i hate more than any other mainstream bands include nickleback, hinder and buckcherry, are very descendant from GnR. and i can't stand them. in my mind, nirvana brought about better radio rock than guns and roses championed. but thats only my opinion.

See emit, you have everything backwards. It might be cool for these groups to cite GNR as an influence, because who really wants to cite Nirvana as an influence?

GNR was the exact opposite of what Radio rock was at the time. The single handedly ended one of the worst eras of music ever, until this recent era. Nirvana just showed all these groups you "can't stand" that mediocrity is the ticket to fame. Nirvana was crap music. They just sang about rebelling everyone liked that idea and they went for it. Nickleback is mediocre, Hinder is mediocre, Buckcherry is mediocre, Creed is mediocre......must I go on?

I think I am going to add that had Nirvana not gained success as a mediocre group WEEZER probably wouldn't exist.

IceAge/HeatWave
02/02/09, 07:32 PM
Yes I'm a huge nirvana fan. To say nirvana made crap music is a difference of opinion that can be argued into infinity. I've done it numerous times and don't wish to do so now.

for some reason welcome to the jungle and paradise city sound very similiar to pour some sugar on me or she's my cherry pie. And to me, those songs just don't click on any level of depth, so I really have no taste for them I guess.

Esrb99
02/02/09, 08:56 PM
I think I am going to add that had Nirvana not gained success as a mediocre group WEEZER probably wouldn't exist.

now now, let's not make rash, unfounded accusations. that's like saying Radiohead is influenced by Blondie. No No.

LUNYOU
02/02/09, 10:52 PM
now now, let's not make rash, unfounded accusations. that's like saying Radiohead is influenced by Blondie. No No.

Weezer is a mediocre band at most. There is no common ground between blondienand Radiohead. I won't even take my shot at radiohead. Weezer should have never been mentioned in the same sentance as
GNR.

I think I am done with this topic. It is rediculous.

tonighttonight0
02/03/09, 09:37 AM
Pinkerton all the way

jjm1
02/03/09, 07:58 PM
Appetite all the way

chiefeasy750
02/03/09, 09:24 PM
weezer blows. gnr would beat the fuck outta weezer, regardless how many bottles of jack they'd drank.

IceAge/HeatWave
02/04/09, 08:19 AM
See emit, you have everything backwards. It might be cool for these groups to cite GNR as an influence, because who really wants to cite Nirvana as an influence?

GNR was the exact opposite of what Radio rock was at the time. The single handedly ended one of the worst eras of music ever, until this recent era. Nirvana just showed all these groups you "can't stand" that mediocrity is the ticket to fame. Nirvana was crap music. They just sang about rebelling everyone liked that idea and they went for it. Nickleback is mediocre, Hinder is mediocre, Buckcherry is mediocre, Creed is mediocre......must I go on?

I think I am going to add that had Nirvana not gained success as a mediocre group WEEZER probably wouldn't exist.

seriously?

ok first bold line up there:
how about nearly every band in the indie genre or alternative genre since 1991?

the second bold line:
you just said what everyone who knows anything about music says about nirvana. name one "mainstream" band that was sounding like nirvana in 1989 when bleach came out. please, i'm begging you.

third bold line:
you think that shitty neo-hair bands like hinder say guns n roses are an influence, and rag on nirvana, because they think it'll give them popularity points?


i don't care if you personally dislike nirvana's music, thats up to you. but if you think GnR did more to end hair metal than nirvana, or influence modern bands more so than the seattle guys did... i will dismiss you as high.

TheWeakest
02/04/09, 03:42 PM
weezer blows. gnr would beat the fuck outta weezer, regardless how many bottles of jack they'd drank.

man, you really shifted my oppinion with that one.

FUCKDIRTYWIPES
02/04/09, 09:59 PM
Pinkerton, easily.

Jet Set Paul
02/05/09, 04:07 PM
While I voted for Pinkerton (because, I would honestly rather listen to that album) I still think that Appetite for Destruction is great. This is a bad survey for AbsolutePunk.net. It's kind of like comparing "Is a Real Boy" to "Master of Puppets".

xx_mariah_xx
02/06/09, 11:51 AM
oooh...
hardest poll for me yet...
GNR is AAmazing
but Pinkerton is under my pillow

xx_mariah_xx
02/06/09, 11:56 AM
weezer blows. gnr would beat the fuck outta weezer, regardless how many bottles of jack they'd drank.


HAha...this made me laugh till i cried...just cause of the jack part

jack....yummy

Jeremy Aaron
02/06/09, 09:13 PM
The album responsible for bands like Buckcherry existing vs. the greatest album ever.

Hmmm.

spansen
02/07/09, 12:30 AM
a vote for gnr is a vote for... shit.

bs7090
02/08/09, 11:36 AM
pinkterton, by a very wide margin.