View Full Version : you think bit torrent is safe?
thewebguy
08/30/05, 08:17 PM
this post is like a general rant about fools who think that bit torrent is a safe way to download pirated software, music, and movies.
using bit torrent is the absolute most surefire way to get nailed these days. the riaa and mpaa are going after bit torrent tracker sites and they are winning settlements.
this is how it works:
the riaa/mpaa sues a site (such as lokitorrent) citing millions or billions in infringements
the owner of the site flips out
the riaa sets up a deal -- the owner wont get sued if they hand over the site, the log data, and promise to never do it again
when this happens, the riaa now has the tracker logs, including a list of ip addresses, timestamps, and files that were downloaded and uploaded. if you use torrents often, you know that you upload AND download, and that you have a share ratio.
this share ratio isn't a number just pulled out of someone's ass, it is a statistic generated by how much you are uploading and downloading, and it is personally identifiable to you!
long story short, if you use torrents with a tracker that gets owned by the riaa/mpaa any time soon, don't think that they will take things to court. they will sell you and everyone else down the river in a heartbeat to save their own asses.
i like guitars
08/30/05, 08:23 PM
ya its messed up how torrent programs log your ip adress, but if you do use it use peer guardian also.
Lueda Alia
08/30/05, 08:23 PM
okay einstein. tell us something we don't already know. oh wait... what you said was just a bunch of stupid crap. the riaa doesn't make a deal with anybody. they simply sue the people who host the tracker.
IcedOpethBlind
08/30/05, 08:25 PM
ya its messed up how torrent programs log your ip adress, but if you do use it use peer guardian also.
or just dont download.
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when 4ever ends
08/30/05, 08:27 PM
it seems to me that the RIAA havent really nailed anyone for downloading music over limewire..etc lately.. so im guessing the new trend is to nail people from these sites
maby if the RIAA wasnt putting copyright protection bullshit on their cds i wouldnt have to download the tracks that i just brought
GoodBoy!
08/30/05, 08:30 PM
hehehe she can sue me....
sue me! sue me!
ghostyouare
08/30/05, 08:34 PM
it seems to me that the RIAA havent really nailed anyone for downloading music over limewire..etc lately.. so im guessing the new trend is to nail people from these sites
maby if the RIAA wasnt putting copyright protection bullshit on their cds i wouldnt have to download the tracks that i just brought maybe if people weren't ripping their cds and sending it to everyone they wouldn't have to put that copy right bullshit on their cds.
Lueda Alia
08/30/05, 08:35 PM
maybe if people weren't ripping their cds and sending it to everyone they wouldn't have to put that copy right bullshit on their cds.
I guess we shouldn't buy any iPods anymore.
apoemtothedead
08/30/05, 08:35 PM
hehehe she can sue me....
sue me! sue me!
yessssssssssss!
when 4ever ends
08/30/05, 08:37 PM
maybe if people weren't ripping their cds and sending it to everyone they wouldn't have to put that copy right bullshit on their cds.
but now it encourages everyone to download it cause they want it on their mp3 player.
ghostyouare
08/30/05, 08:37 PM
I guess we shouldn't buy any iPods anymore. Ipods work with Itunes which where you can download songs for a fee.
GoodBoy!
08/30/05, 08:37 PM
yessssssssssss!
:thumbsup:
when 4ever ends
08/30/05, 08:38 PM
Ipods work with Itunes which where you can download songs for a fee.
they dont have some cds i want
ghostyouare
08/30/05, 08:38 PM
but now it encourages everyone to download it cause they want it on their mp3 player.
buy a cd player?
they dont have some cds i want
so you are saying that makes it ok to download songs. I'm not saying I don't download music I'm just saying I don't think your logic is right.
when 4ever ends
08/30/05, 08:41 PM
buy a cd player?
so you are saying that makes it ok to download songs. I'm not saying I don't download music I'm just saying I don't think your logic is right.
if i buy a cd that has copyright protection on it, i cant put it on my ipod.. so in my opinion i should be able to download those tracks off the internet cause i already paid for it.
ghostyouare
08/30/05, 08:42 PM
if i buy a cd that has copyright protection on it, i cant put it on my ipod.. so in my opinion i should be able to download those tracks off the internet cause i already paid for it.nevermind man.
Lueda Alia
08/30/05, 08:43 PM
Ipods work with Itunes which where you can download songs for a fee.
you do realize that that's a silly comment, right?
because I basically meant that we want to rip cd's to put them in our mp3 players. and if I buy the cd, why the hell would I purchase the same tracks on iTunes?
record companies have no right to do this. once I buy the cd, it's mine, and I should be able to do whatever I want with it.
apoemtothedead
08/30/05, 08:43 PM
if i buy a cd that has copyright protection on it, i cant put it on my ipod
huh? I have cds with those things and they go right onto my ipod.
Lueda Alia
08/30/05, 08:43 PM
if i buy a cd that has copyright protection on it, i cant put it on my ipod.. so in my opinion i should be able to download those tracks off the internet cause i already paid for it.
damn you beat me to it.
ghostyouare
08/30/05, 08:45 PM
you do realize that that's a silly comment, right?
because I basically meant that we want to rip cd's to put them in our mp3 players. and if I buy the cd, why the hell would I purchase the same tracks on iTunes?
record companies have no right to do this. once I buy the cd, it's mine, and I should be able to do whatever I want with it.
1. That's what you get for having an mp3 player.
2. he was talking about downloading album that he didn't have. (or atleast I thought he was)
when 4ever ends
08/30/05, 08:47 PM
huh? I have cds with those things and they go right onto my ipod.
the acceptance cd, i couldnt get onto my ipod.. same with foo fighters. there are ways to get around the copyright protection but its dumb that i have to go through all that trouble in the first place to listen to something I own
1. That's what you get for having an mp3 player.
2. he was talking about downloading album that he didn't have. (or atleast I thought he was)
no i ment ones i own.. i probally screwed up somewhere.
ghostyouare
08/30/05, 08:47 PM
the acceptance cd, i couldnt get onto my ipod.. same with foo fighters. there are ways to get around the copyright protection but its dumb that i have to go through all that trouble in the first place to listen to something I own
no i ment ones i own.. i probally screwed up somewhere.
And if you owned a record label you would think it was stupid that a bunch of teens downloaded your cds for free.
Lueda Alia
08/30/05, 08:49 PM
And if you owned a record label you would think it was stupid that a bunch of teens downloaded your cds for free.
let me guess, you never download anything, right? ;)
xAnothrLostSoul
08/30/05, 08:49 PM
or just dont download.
http://www.animalyawns.com/Felines/tj-yawn.jpg
i'm in love with your sig. rejected is one of the funniest things i've ever seen
when 4ever ends
08/30/05, 08:49 PM
And if you owned a record label you would think it was stupid that a bunch of teens downloaded your cds for free.
agreed but you have to think about the ones that paid for the album also, and like i said before.. people buy the cds with the copyright stuff on them and it only encourages to download the tracks they just brought on a cd because they want to rip them to their computer.
burnburnburn
08/30/05, 08:51 PM
Ipods work with Itunes which where you can download songs for a fee.
A lot of people like have the real cd.
A lot of people like using their iPod. It's more convenient. I know I miss my iPod.
Shut up Trevor. I'll eat your nuts.
having*
ghostyouare
08/30/05, 08:52 PM
agreed but you have to think about the ones that paid for the album also, and like i said before.. people buy the cds with the copyright stuff on them and it only encourages to download the tracks they just brought on a cd because they want to rip them to their computer.
Ya but in all honesty there are more downloaders compared to people who bought the album.
A lot of people like have the real cd.
A lot of people like using their iPod. It's more convenient. I know I miss my iPod.
Shut up Trevor. I'll eat your nuts.
having*
i bet you would eat my nuts, ***got.
burnburnburn
08/30/05, 08:55 PM
Ya but in all honesty there are more downloaders compared to people who bought the album.
i bet you would eat my nuts, ***got.Only because cd prices are rediculous.
You felcher. Eat my fucking smegma.
ghostyouare
08/30/05, 08:56 PM
Only because cd prices are rediculous.
You felcher. Eat my fucking smegma.
ridiculous*
Wow, I haven't seen smegma in forever and it is like an AP's favorite word.
burnburnburn
08/30/05, 08:58 PM
ridiculous*
Wow, I haven't seen smegma in forever and it is like an AP's favorite word.
I'm baked. Give me a break.
ghostyouare
08/30/05, 09:00 PM
I'm baked. Give me a break.
of that kit kat bar?
thewebguy
08/31/05, 12:30 AM
okay einstein. tell us something we don't already know. oh wait... what you said was just a bunch of stupid crap. the riaa doesn't make a deal with anybody. they simply sue the people who host the tracker.
be it the riaa or the mpaa, they are making deals with tracker owners. i believe it was lokitorrent that paid an insignificant amount considering what they were up against (something like 50 grand as opposed to millions of dollars in potential fines), transferred the site, and handed over the logs.
I'd like to say what's up to my european people. Holla!
(If you can't read between the lines, the chances RIAA will sue outside the states are, well, fucking slim)
I'd like to say what's up to my european people. Holla!
(If you can't read between the lines, the chances RIAA will sue outside the states are, well, fucking slim)Hola. The RIAA exists here I think.
Hola. The RIAA exists here I think.
The Spanish Inquisition!
The Spanish Inquisition!Yeah, I think it's called european RIAA. ;)
I just saw "Spanish Bombs" in your sig.
Yeah, love that song. Anyways, we're (the consumers) protected by law on this subject in Norway.
Lueda Alia
08/31/05, 04:22 AM
Yeah, love that song. Anyways, we're (the consumers) protected by law on this subject in Norway.
same here. yay for canananananduh.
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