View Full Version : Seal - "Kiss From A Rose" > ANY top 40 radio of this past decade.
theguy77
02/03/09, 05:11 PM
/random music-related ultimatum which will lead to a chat thread and/or home for irrelevant arguments
but seriously, between the complex choral-influenced multiple-layer vocal arrangements, mix of both symphonic and rock-based instruments into an R&B/pop setting, and atypical chord progressions and melodies (including the key change in the bridge which also contains more vocal innovation), i would be very surprised if someone could find me a more well-written song that remained on american top 40 radio in the last 9 years, for a decent amount of time.
theguy77
02/03/09, 05:11 PM
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JimGray
02/03/09, 05:11 PM
Haha, Seal is an asshole.
Dr. Acula
02/03/09, 05:19 PM
I still wanna know how Seal got with Heidi Klum. Dude must have a maglite between his legs.
JimGray
02/03/09, 05:22 PM
I still wanna know how Seal got with Heidi Klum. Klum must have a maglite between her legs.
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I always preferred 'Crazy', but 'Kiss From a Rose is good too. What do you guys in the States have on the radio just now? I barely listen to it over here in the day.
theguy77
02/03/09, 05:29 PM
a bunch of songs with the same chord progression and in "different genres", which really just means produced by different producers and with a different image attached to them.
x togepi x
02/03/09, 05:29 PM
every kanye song where he was a rapper that was a single is better than this. and that's just off the top of my head.
Dr. Acula
02/03/09, 05:30 PM
I always preferred 'Crazy', but 'Kiss From a Rose is good too. What do you guys in the States have on the radio just now? I barely listen to it over here in the day.
There's this crazy dance sensation going around right now with the tune "Macarena". Look out for it. Annoyingly catchy.
JimGray
02/03/09, 05:31 PM
every kanye song where he was a rapper that was a single is better than this. and that's just off the top of my head.
Haha, and I bet Kanye is nicer too.
One of my favourite songs ever. I've loved it since I was 4.
theguy77
02/03/09, 05:32 PM
every kanye song where he was a rapper that was a single is better than this. and that's just off the top of my head.
didnt he like take all his backing music from other songs?
theguy77
02/03/09, 05:33 PM
One of my favourite songs ever. I've loved it since I was 4.
i know isnt it great? easily the best part of the first batman movies, lol.
Jumpoff
02/03/09, 05:33 PM
Obviously chose the decade cutoff because of
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x togepi x
02/03/09, 05:33 PM
didnt he like take all his backing music from other songs?
yeah, he sampled other songs which millions of other rappers do/did. they're still extremely well produced
theguy77
02/03/09, 05:35 PM
yeah, he sampled other songs which millions of other rappers do/did. they're still extremely well produced
meh, i'd still take seal over him. what hes doing/done is better than half the stuff on that level of popularity though.
Jumpoff
02/03/09, 05:36 PM
yeah, he sampled other songs which millions of other rappers do/did. they're still extremely well produced
He has a great ear for samples but that's really it.. he's not an amazing producer to be honest..
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More better top 40 radio choices.
theguy77
02/03/09, 05:36 PM
Obviously chose the decade cutoff because of
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obviously. :rolleyes:
the only pop-rock band getting publicized on that level that i really like is jimmy eat world, but its the same with a lot of people on this site.
Dr. Acula
02/03/09, 05:36 PM
yeah, he sampled other songs which millions of other rappers do/did. they're still extremely well produced
Truth.
Jumpoff
02/03/09, 05:37 PM
obviously. :rolleyes:
the only pop-rock band getting publicized on that level that i really like is jimmy eat world, but its the same with a lot of people on this site.
Glad we could agree. :-p
Dr. Acula
02/03/09, 05:38 PM
meh, i'd still take seal over him. what hes doing/done is better than half the stuff on that level of popularity though.
How can you honestly say that when you obviously havent given a listen to Kanye's stuff?
I do prefer Iris over Kiss From a Rose I must admit.
Jumpoff
02/03/09, 05:39 PM
I'd take Kiss from a Rose over Kanye's songs too to be honest.
theguy77
02/03/09, 05:39 PM
How can you honestly say that when you obviously havent given a listen to Kanye's stuff?
yes i have? ive only heard his rap stuff on the radio (which got played a lot by the way, and its what my mom puts on in the car) but the new album ive heard start to finish in my dad's apartment, he loves it. even with the intentional abuse of autotune i don't mind it, whereas i cant stand most of the other stuff on typical radio stations these days.
kearn1tm
02/03/09, 05:40 PM
My favorite track on the Batman Forever soundtrack!
Dr. Acula
02/03/09, 05:41 PM
yes i have? ive only heard his rap stuff on the radio (which got played a lot by the way, and its what my mom puts on in the car) but the new album ive heard start to finish in my dad's apartment, he loves it.
Well, Im sorry I assumed since you essentially described him as that dude who samples. Pretty ignorant statement. Just sayin.
theguy77
02/03/09, 05:43 PM
why is that ignorant? it's true, that wasnt meant to be an insult most rap producers do it to an extent
Dr. Acula
02/03/09, 05:46 PM
why is that ignorant? it's true, that wasnt meant to be an insult most rap producers do it to an extent
Because believe it or not, there is an art to what he samples/produces. You make it sound like what he does is no different then Puff Daddy. Pdiddy. Whatever he's calling himself these days.
Jumpoff
02/03/09, 06:16 PM
Because believe it or not, there is an art to what he samples/produces. You make it sound like what he does is no different then Puff Daddy. Pdiddy. Whatever he's calling himself these days.
All Kanye does is finds a good sample, speeds it up, then loops it.. :shrug:
Dr. Acula
02/03/09, 06:23 PM
All Kanye does is finds a good sample, speeds it up, then loops it.. :shrug:
That's ALL he does? Broad generalization. "Homecoming", "Big Brother", etc. Have NONE of the sort. And that's just off the top of my head.
Jumpoff
02/03/09, 06:25 PM
That's ALL he does? Broad generalization. "Homecoming", "Big Brother", etc. Have NONE of the sort.
Really that's all that keeps his beats interesting. The samples. He has an amazing ear for samples though.
Didn't listen to graduation more than once or twice to be honest and I think both of those were on it. The lyrics were too horrendous for me to give it more of a chance production wise.
Dr. Acula
02/03/09, 06:29 PM
:hitself:
IWasaCamera
02/03/09, 07:55 PM
Disagree.
Miss Heartcore
02/03/09, 08:15 PM
When this song came out, my aunt listened to it on repeat...this also occured during a 3 hour drive to Pennsylvania.
Never again.
theguy77
02/04/09, 10:55 PM
hahahaha that sucks, i feel for you
Edit: song I found was too old...I'll find something newer.
Kiss from a Rose is good but I doubt it is the best.
Chromefox
02/05/09, 12:26 PM
He's only claiming that it trumps this decade, which frankly, isn't hard to accomplish.
theguy77
02/05/09, 06:56 PM
He's only claiming that it trumps this decade, which frankly, isn't hard to accomplish.
exactly, i dont even think it trumps the 90s let alone all the amazing radio hits that came in the 70s and 60s (and probably 80s but i know that decade the least well, i always associate it with either "classic" rock or the time when synth driven pop got popular, hence why i dont pay attention to it haha)
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